00:00 Jo-jo Scumworth 00:02 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2257 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3378 00:08 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed figurine of a Archon", on T:43038 00:11 'k gon stream some netahack and try to play fast sorta 00:12 Enjoy 00:12 I'm gonna resume my phone game 00:13 Feeling bold enough to trek down into my Orctown bones 00:13 (but not quite actually) 00:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:15122 00:17 thinking emoji 00:17 "For you, honored lady; only 267 Ankh-Morpork Dollars for this expensive camera." 00:17 Does that parse as "magic marker" still? 00:17 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Dan Chn Fem Law), 2285 points, T:2673, killed by a boulder 00:17 tinklebear: Well, can't tag 'em for false advertising 00:17 Cameras are so good though 00:18 Umbire: true, and true 00:19 never thought I'd say this, but... I need a regular sack. Every container I find is a BoH. 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4202 00:21 bouquet: perseus statue sometimes has a sack. not sure if that helps. 00:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:15463 00:21 it had the shield. Already have 3 of those. 00:21 -!- tonehack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21 lol 00:21 D: 00:21 speaking of sacks the sokobag is the only container I've had all game 00:22 damn clutch find mind you but I always like to have a spare sack for BoHsploding stuff 00:22 Well, I've been dying as a rogue all evening. Doing my best to help you guys out. 00:23 Hmm. Surrounded. No escape, by a vampire mage and it's monsters. 00:23 I thought it was just a bat, but no, it became that and then summoned all that - including a couatl. 00:24 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Dan Inf Fem Cha), 317 points, T:624, sent to the grave by a corpseworm 00:24 * Umbire imagines it going like so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ns_WerNDg 00:24 (volume warning!) 00:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 9003 points, T:3919, killed by a vampire mage 00:24 Aaaand *one scratch* and I'm done! 00:24 Even as I was drinking a blessed healing potion 00:25 !lastgame 00:25 arahael: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1607232218.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jops/nethack/dumplog/1607223502.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1607228253.evil.html 00:27 that's basically how it went for the wiz whos bones I'm trying to retrieve now 00:27 (the vid I mean) 00:27 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law) killed One-Eyed Sam the Arms Dealer, on T:43494 00:27 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Dan Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:568 00:28 ooh, a Sam kill 00:28 You better ascend 00:29 so jelly. She always chops me in half. I've given up. 00:31 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Dan Hum Fem Cha), 277 points, T:1139, slaughtered by a killer bee 00:31 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered Skippy, their faithful Olog-hai, on T:38724 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26224 00:31 yikes should have gotten a water troll 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:18073 00:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4478 00:35 * Umbire wonders if lava trolls exist 00:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:38 Umbire: I'm sure there are rumours, but you'd have to go down to find out. 00:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:15833 00:39 You first 00:39 * Umbire pushes in 00:39 Umbire: Maybe later. 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 381 points, T:1145, killed by a manes 00:39 !lastgame 00:40 tinklebear: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/ezion/nethack/dumplog/1607232404.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jops/nethack/dumplog/1607223502.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1607228253.evil.html 00:40 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Dwa Fem Law), 1218 points, T:628, eliminated by a killer bee 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:140 00:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 587 points, T:764, killed by a crossbow bolt 00:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 165 points, T:153, killed by an arrow 00:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9553 00:49 crap lol 00:50 got grabbed by an eel 00:50 first time that's happened in ages 00:50 you know, in all my nethacking, I've actually *never* had that happen to me, not in any fatal way. 00:50 lol it will come 00:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5756 00:52 ok taming it should save me 00:52 I keep grease/oilskin cloaks around when I can for just that reason 00:52 phew 00:52 i didnt want to waste a poly charge 00:53 with the 0 MR bugle may have worked 00:53 i also have a camera but not sure how succesful that woudl be 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:6110 00:56 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2099 00:56 aoei: I find sleep tends to work well for grabbing attacks. 00:56 never tried it on an eel, though. 00:57 camera tends to blind and scare, there's always that chance though 00:57 but yeah to my recollection eels are low MR 00:58 arahael: it will work 100% if the ray hits 00:58 but there's no guarantee the ray hits, i thikn 00:58 Fair enough. One game today, I had a sleep ray miss *four* times before I got it to hit. :( 01:01 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha), 2509 points, T:2479, exterminated by a killer mimic 01:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:96 01:02 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 01:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:15942 01:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:15946 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3583 01:08 -!- huloxia has joined #hardfought 01:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:821 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:12095 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 18102 points, T:12098, quit 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:27243 01:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3708 01:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3843 01:19 Rebounding rays >>>> 01:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3912 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:27814 01:22 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 01:25 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:26 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 01:27 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4272 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 eyes of the overworld", on T:27955 01:31 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) killed Slipscale the Betrayer, on T:41604 01:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:16716 01:34 in the dragonmaster quest in splicehack the quest nemesis rides a unique named dragon and it is possible to tame it, which I think is really cool 01:35 It also has an amulet stealing attack, would that work on the high priest or the wizard of yendor I wonder? is that something monsters normally have? 01:35 -!- nimsumzero has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36 Yes, but usually it's restricted to like 01:36 Demon princes and shit 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2510 points, T:3813, killed by an Elvenking 01:42 That's 01:42 distressingly early 01:42 !lastgame 01:42 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1607236613.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jops/nethack/dumplog/1607223502.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1607233420.nh.html 01:42 Son of a 01:42 !lastgame ezion 01:42 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/ezion/nethack/dumplog/1607233372.nh.html 01:43 Got cocky and punched above their weight class, huh 01:43 Early throne room Elvenkings fucking ruin people 01:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3297 points, T:5142, killed by a rothe 01:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8779 01:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:18078 01:50 lol death ray'd the dark one 01:50 2 EZ 01:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18081 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:9506 01:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:21624 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:9873 02:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:18115 02:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "a blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:21904 02:05 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41623 02:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "a blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:21933 02:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:22009 02:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "a blessed fixed greased +2 boots of speed", on T:22011 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2987 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3012 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3040 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:20232 02:12 -!- nimsumzero has joined #hardfought 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:20233 02:14 o/ 02:15 yo 02:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4087 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3272 points, T:5728, killed by a black unicorn 02:24 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 02:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:20313 02:27 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:31 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1049 02:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:10795 02:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2200 points, T:1732, killed by a crow 02:37 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 02:40 -!- bort13 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:11225 02:45 My game crashed and when I logged back in it started a new character.. How can I get the old one back? 02:48 K2: You there? 02:48 hi 02:48 Hello nimsumzero, Welcome to #hardfought 02:48 yes 02:48 hi 02:48 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11211 02:48 lemme look 02:49 okay thanks 02:49 nimsumzero log out of dgl please 02:49 I think I'm out 02:50 game is recovered 02:51 thank you so much 02:51 np 02:51 what were you doing when it crashed? 02:51 i dont have a coredump 02:51 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:52 I was ... 02:52 I had just finished doing a bunch of stuff at an alter and then I was adjusting an inventory letter 02:52 ok 02:53 it recoverd but maybe a couple hundred turns before it crashed 02:53 typical 02:53 I'll take it though, much better than losing 10 hours :) 02:53 recover will usually put you right when you entered that level 02:53 (not always) 02:53 I see. Thanks again K@ 02:53 K2 02:53 cheers 02:54 * K2 is going to bed 02:56 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:20334 02:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:20335 03:03 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 03:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:20390 03:13 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "Well, what do you know, I *do* feel tired"] 03:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:29 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 03:33 ugh... going downstairs from my stash on 19 takes me to level 1. The stair bug in 3.7 is driving me crazy 03:33 its fixed in newer version. once this game is over, your next game will be on new version 03:34 * K2 didnt go to bed but should have 03:34 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:35 I see. Good to know. I guess I'll dig a hole to get to 20 for try number 3. Hopefully my pets will still be tame. Haha 03:38 It'll be a nice short cut once I have the amulet 03:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21812 03:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14300 03:45 -!- nimsumzero has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:57880 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:35364 03:57 An Amulet of *Flying*? 03:57 Didn't realise this was in vanilla? 03:59 yeah 03:59 new in 3.7 03:59 Nift. 03:59 *Nifty 03:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:58734 04:00 my current game has one 04:00 Same 04:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1677 04:02 arahael: i had an idea which might help me train to play fast 04:02 Yeah? 04:02 save the game if i find myself stopping for more than a few seconds 04:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:03 it would be an annoying crutch or even seen as cheating if abused too heavily 04:03 Hmm - don't think that'd work for me, but if it works for you than all the better. :) 04:03 but having to close the game would be annoying bc i cant see my invent etc. anymore 04:04 so *hopefully* it would incent me to keep smashing keys as much as possible, or tak ea break when i need to stop and think when its really necessary 04:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8899 points, T:11901, killed by a priestess of Loki, while paralyzed by a monster 04:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:60639 04:10 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:72560 04:10 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:72562 04:12 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Jed Woo Fem Neu), 219 points, T:663, killed by a monster (Statonir) 04:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:16168 04:19 arahael: you see the logic tho i guess? 04:19 aoei: I do indeed. 04:20 woot \o/ 04:20 * aoei isnt a crazy person 04:20 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:20 wait, i havent quite proved that i guess 04:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:20214 04:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16307 04:32 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Jed Woo Fem Neu), 3564 points, T:2295, killed by a monster (laser shark) 04:33 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered their faithful transmuter, on T:44146 04:34 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 04:37 !tell antigulp I feel unfortunately obligated to report that if you change the material of a helm of brilliance to shadowspun it acts as a robe does, presumably due to a hardcoded balance for it's normal iron material 04:37 antigulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Neko-chan. 04:37 this feels so strong and awesome though, I will admit 04:38 or maybe not honestly. I just don't think +5 int makes this big of a difference generally 04:38 it's like a tiny edge 04:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:40 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Jed Woo Fem Neu), 362 points, T:1016, killed by a monster (Mr. Chicoutimi, the shopkeeper) 04:42 !tell antigulp haha disregard that last one (I think). I believe the helm of brilliance simply ignores it's material type and never impacts casting and it's the fact I am getting five intelligence that is decreasing my spell failure 04:42 I'm on it, Neko-chan. 04:45 arahael you had a vampire mage in mine's end catacombs? 04:53 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered their faithful transmuter, on T:44524 04:55 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:73406 04:55 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:56 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:57 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:58 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 05:07 mobileuser: Yeah - in evilhack, though. 05:08 it was probably an unlucky polytrap... 05:10 Possibly. 05:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:18198 05:14 Man, such an unlucky dice roll. 05:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 7821 points, T:3133, killed by a jaguar 05:15 Got stunned. For a crazy long time, but still managed to kill both gnomish wizards. Managed to get out two potions of healing, but a jaguar came and attacked me. 05:16 Praying just resulted in $diety being "pleased" with me, but didn't heal me (I wasn't hurt /quite/ enough for it to heal me anyway), but they *left me stunned*! :( 05:16 gnomish wizards are such a pain in evilhack 05:16 So I applied a camera at the jaguar, and it didn't work. Thinking back, that was because I was stunned. But at that point I had 3 HP and wasn't going to last. 05:16 That was in vanilla. 05:16 But they are indeed even worse in evilhack. 05:16 ah :-) 05:17 I've been alternating for most of the day. :) 05:17 nice 05:17 3.7 has some fun new additions 05:18 i have a save on hdf-eu 3.7 05:18 but im way too slow, 6h30min to do castle and quest 05:18 but now i wanna try something else on nao 366 05:19 mobileuser: Yeah, I had an "amulet of flying", it was... weird. :) 05:19 arahael: its awesome 05:19 you can dip in moats and still pick up off ground 05:19 like beoing a flying polyform 05:20 or water walking boots but with extra powers like you dont fall in holes/pits etc 05:20 Weird. :) 05:23 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) killed Voanairruth, on T:45399 05:23 nooooo that wasn't me ok, I know I've been murdering a lot of pets lately but 05:28 This is a weird evil game, I should have died 10 times already in this short game (Now on turn 1064), been carelessly swimming, bashing 4 monsters while very low HP, etcetera, etcetera. 05:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:15258 05:31 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 05:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:18644 05:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:57804 05:33 heh mace skill 05:35 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 3594 points, T:1723, killed by a tengu, while praying 05:35 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Kni Hlf Mal Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1834 05:37 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 8322 points, T:5964, killed by a wererat 05:43 how do you get at glass wands in soko holes in 3.7? 05:43 do they shatter if they fall down next to you? autopickup doesn't seem to work 05:44 <@luxidream> use the almighty grappling hook 05:44 sigh 05:44 ok, back to minetown tool shop I guess 05:44 ok, thanks for the tip! 05:44 <@luxidream> (it will shatter if you fall down the hole with it) 05:44 <@luxidream> you can fill the hole and dig it back up later 05:45 I was wondering if that would work, thanks 05:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Kni Hlf Mal Law), 6889 points, T:2750, killed by a giant spider 05:51 Woo, doing it after that specific level is completed doesn't violate the soko rules 05:51 I was wondering if you had to complete soko first. you don't 05:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) averted death, on T:20968 05:52 grr pet instadeath from rabid rats is a pain 05:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 382 points, T:823, killed by a jumping spider, while reading a book 05:59 It's weird how dangerious tins are. 06:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:02 !rng slex | something that is less fun than slex 06:02 LarienTelrunya: something that is less fun than slex 06:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2467 06:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:2547 06:04 <@luxidream> !rng slex slex slex slex slex slex slex slex unnethack 06:04 @luxidream: slex 06:04 lol hi luxidream, I'm fairly sure you could ascend slex if you really wanted ;) 06:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1411 points, T:2574, killed by a giant spider 06:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 806 points, T:869, killed by a dwarf 06:06 <@luxidream> hi amy 06:06 <@luxidream> I'll think about it 06:06 <3 06:09 You see here a lamp (lit). 06:10 in a dark room on dungeon level 1. 06:10 that's a nice touch. 06:12 K2 my wonderful fleece bundle, are you here? I'm interested in the cool new 3.7 feature where downstairs can sometimes take you down several dungeon levels at once, do you have a patch for that ♥? 06:12 -!- ThaEwat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:13 -!- jannis\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Ogresmasher", on T:21302 06:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:58993 06:15 bonus! 06:16 we are nearly there Amaterasu Omikami 06:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:985 06:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:21563 06:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:59422 06:24 gotta collect them all! 06:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:21559 06:33 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2312 points, T:1724, killed by a white unicorn 06:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 206 points, T:459, killed by a gnome lord 06:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 421 points, T:548, killed by a gnome lord 06:46 -!- ThaEwat has joined #hardfought 06:50 -!- jannis\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 06:53 wait 06:54 i have to play unnethack 06:54 advent calendar time 06:55 a nethack advent calendar! 06:55 oh wait i started as a vampire 06:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:22871 06:55 iirc there are sweets which i cannot eat 06:56 You smell chocolate! 06:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1925 06:57 wtf i keep dying 06:57 oh no i am in hah/hoh mode 06:57 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:2006 06:58 hope i can survive until the chocolate 06:58 already lost two lives 06:59 Hmm, I also keep dying! I wonder if.... nope, that's just because I am shit. 07:00 have to find the portal 07:00 #shout is wisely disabled 07:01 door doesn't open? D: 07:01 do i need a key 07:02 oh no i am dumb 07:02 got a platinum rin 07:02 g 07:03 a nice nikolaus gift 07:05 lol stenno1 07:05 i paused my orc wiz on here 07:05 and try to do realteim orc barb on nao 07:05 why on nao? 07:06 bc save active on hdf-eu 07:06 oh i see 07:06 idk i guess i could have used hdf-us 07:06 or make aoei2 07:06 anyway 1h22m to soko1, bit slow :/ 07:06 but i got Grays and +5 GDSM from two lamps lmao 07:06 eeh you will make progress quickly 07:07 got them in minetown then did some confused remove cures after robbing shops for scrolls and potions 07:07 i robbed a massive scroll store lol 07:07 so genius 07:07 i guess i also dont need mines end 07:10 not as barb, no 07:10 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 07:11 so if i can get thru soko quickly its quite nice start 07:11 both prizes will be helpful, don't ahve reflection and my bag is a sack 07:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:23552 07:13 sack is already not bad 07:13 you probably have St:18 Co:18 which is almost carry cap 07:13 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 07:14 yeah true BoH is a luxury item 07:14 well at least in the early game 07:14 for barb 07:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1164 points, T:2234, killed by a dwarf 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:13807 07:35 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:24720 07:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1296 07:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1504 07:57 woot! 07:57 gametime or realtime run? 07:57 none lol 07:57 chill run 07:57 ah, stenno1 07:57 such a let down :v 07:57 sry 07:58 its ok <3 07:59 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 08:04 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:07 ok it _should_ be safe to pray 08:09 an orc shaman dug down at a choke point and now i can't get up anymore 08:09 guess i might as well do lower mines 08:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3213 08:14 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:16 hmm peaceful woodland-elf 08:16 i wonder if he has elven broadsword.. 08:16 killing time 08:16 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:18 elven spear 08:19 this dwarf was sleep resistant 08:19 so i guess the amulet was restful sleep 08:21 wait, that ammy gives sleep res? 08:21 think so 08:21 huh 08:21 wel i can't explain it otherwise 08:22 i think also regen while sleeping 08:22 or maybe thats from a variant 08:22 yeah wiki looks like just the restful sleep intrisnic for vanilla 08:23 no 'the dwarf resists' message 08:23 he just got hit and continued walking towards me 08:23 i dont think you get those for sleep, stenno 08:23 it just works or it doesnt 08:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:61923 08:23 but no message 08:24 DRAGONBANE 08:24 \o/ 08:24 wewt 08:24 bane, dragon (1 each) 08:24 aoei: why wouldn't it work if the monster gets hit? 08:24 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:24 stenno1: monMR 08:24 now I can finally start to two-weapon 08:24 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 08:25 dwarf lord has 10, dwarf king 20 08:25 so chance is quite low 08:25 that it will fail 08:25 restful sleep def. regenerates hitpoints though 08:25 but it can, not sure for basic dwarf 08:25 hm 08:25 oh maybe this amulet of thingy? 08:25 whatsitcalled 08:25 the new things 08:26 guarding? 08:26 right 08:26 i thought thats just +1 to MC and -1 to AC 08:26 but maybe it does fancy stuff 08:26 stenno1: basic dwarf also have monMR of 10 08:26 so it could just be that 08:27 i thought you'd always get the 'resists' message 08:27 no 08:27 you don't ever get it with sleep 08:27 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:28 you'll get it with force bolt for sure 08:28 maybe other stuff? 08:28 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 08:28 but not sleep 08:29 you need a stethoscope or probing to tell for sure 08:29 i will go back and get the ammy 08:30 might as well anyway 08:30 wiki says guarding amulet is actually +2 to A 08:31 +2 to MC and -2 to AC 08:31 i wonder if it will boost monMR for a monster who wears it 08:31 oh wow thats really not bad 08:31 hi 08:31 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:31 so its possible you had the right conclusion 08:31 maybe that dwarf had monMR of 30 08:31 was strangulation lul 08:31 or something 08:31 lol F 08:32 strangulation not the worst one tho 08:33 yuo can still use-ID and then polypile it if you have a means to uncurse 08:33 amulet of change is the worst one 08:33 i left it where it was 08:33 -!- Muadd has joined #hardfought 08:33 got reflection already? 08:33 i save random ammys to polypile fro "oR sometimes 08:33 but otherwise i dont car emuch 08:34 yes i wished for sdsm earlier, remmemebr? 08:34 no i do not 08:34 :D 08:35 +Beholder | [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1504 08:35 aoei | woot! 08:35 13:57 08:35 heh 08:35 yeah i just looked in backscrool myself lol 08:35 :D 08:35 pls 08:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:12884 08:35 stenno1 when you arent busy, i have a question for you, requires your expertise 08:35 stenno1: i wished for +5 GDSM and got the +5 lol 08:36 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:36 K2: in what regard 08:36 aoei: nice 08:36 remember when you made some edits to the scoreboard stuff on hdf website that allowed it to work with the password hash/salt changes in dgl? 08:37 i remember doing the password thingies, but i don't remember the context anymore 08:37 is something bad? 08:37 i have sendmail working again in hdf, i want to get the resetp password functionality going again. emails send, it says it changed the password, but nothing changes in dgl user database 08:37 did i cause a security issue? 08:38 *reset 08:38 ah ok 08:38 i can look that up in a bit, yeah 08:38 no you didnt do anything wrong 08:38 ok 08:39 just whenever you have time. i know right now you are setting new records in nethack 08:39 stenno1: you know what sucks worst about nao tho? 08:39 no wishing livelogs in #NetHack :C 08:39 lol 08:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5364 08:46 gogogo 08:47 * stenno1 takes break at the exact same moment :D 08:47 this one looks really good 08:47 started with healing and found sleeping very early 08:47 and then minetown lamp wish 08:48 "oPR also help for survival 08:48 oh and a magic mmarker too lol 08:49 same moment as in we'r eboth at soko1 08:49 or are you also there at about 1h20min in 08:49 i would guess 30-45 iminutes 08:50 damn lol 08:50 need to get good 08:50 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:50 <-- me i mean 08:50 i had some issues in the very early game but then i could play really smooth 08:50 so its no surprise that i am quicker 08:50 blaaaaah why this no work 08:50 [hdf-eu] [un] bhaak (Tou Hum Mal Neu) shouted "shout is not disabled!", on T:8 08:50 K2: ok, ok 08:50 huh 08:51 heh 08:51 [hdf-eu] [un] stenno (Bar Vam Fem Cha) shouted "indeed, it just doesn't tab-complete", on T:1134 08:51 lolll 08:51 how do you do that? 08:51 K2: where is code? 08:51 one sec 08:51 aoei: #shout 08:51 [hdf-us] [un] rougelike (Kni Hum Fem Law) shouted "flipped sokoban is bad", on T:1 08:52 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 08:52 stenno: refresher, so you can see what you did last time - https://termbin.com/r57ll 08:52 search for 'stenno edit' 08:52 aoei: i had to pay bhaak 2000 euro and he implemented the feature just for me 08:52 ah damn bhaak 08:53 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 08:53 !setmintc 1 08:53 luxidream: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for luxidream set to 1 08:53 the reset pw file - https://termbin.com/1acas - I put in 'stenno' comments so you can see what all i have changed/tried 08:53 K2: wut no way 08:53 its funny because stenno really would waste €2000 on something dumb like that (': 08:53 way 08:54 stenno1: i'm surprised an austrian would do anything with such a paltry sum ... 08:54 can't you do sql injection, K2 08:54 so the script works in that it sends an email with a link, you click the link to change your oassword, nothing happens to the dgamelaunch db 08:54 stop stop 08:54 permissions are good 08:54 paxed: you got your nationalities mixed up but otherwise, you are correct :) 08:55 heh 08:55 i see, the problem is obvious. it's trying to change an oassword :) 08:55 but, the swiss are even greedier ofc 08:55 o = p 08:55 np = p 08:55 therefore o = np = no problem 08:55 i'm on 2 hrs sleep, get offa me 08:55 bhaak: sorry, i just woke up from a nap, and haven't had my afternoon coffee yet 08:55 paxed: F 08:55 ^ 1st world problems 08:56 !coffee paxed 08:56 * Beholder tosses paxed a mug of cafe latte, conjured by Izchak at -17 degrees Celsius. 08:56 hahahah 08:56 drink that 08:56 'approximately german' 08:56 frozen coffee. it's colder than outside over here 08:57 K2: can we do a prepared statement regarding that db query 08:57 um sure 08:57 which php version? 08:57 7.4 08:57 is that pdo_mysql? 08:57 kk 08:58 hmm, a shop with iron bars. I'm not sure I saw that before. 08:59 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha) shouted "I have no sound but I must shout aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAああああああああああ", on T:3 08:59 It is a security nightmare, I hope they have cheap shop leases for those iron bar shops 09:00 oh, lol. the advent calendar level has an axe. of course that code also triggers on that level. 09:00 ? 09:00 krm26: i am looking at it a bit 09:00 err 09:00 K2: sorry 09:00 :) 09:01 oh this will take a bit maybe until i have figured that out 09:02 You need some SQL crap banged out? 09:02 Umbire: recentlish code might generate an axe on a level if there are several trees on it. 09:02 nah, php 09:02 on nh370? 09:02 Oh neat. 09:03 just let us issue aritrary sql commands, that allows for maximum features with minimum effort 09:03 with absolutely no downsides 09:03 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "holy historic very blessed fireproof rustproof fixed +7 crystal pick named what else am i gonna do with this blessed magic lamp?", on T:52003 09:03 krm26: do you remember the version we had when i updated the thing the last time? 09:03 amateurhour: thats so funny, i was planning the same thing for nhs! 09:03 aoei: no, unnethack 09:03 obviously we both have 200iq 09:03 Heh, sorry, no 09:04 I actually only wanted a ttyrec with several properties 09:04 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha) shouted "m", on T:3 09:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 376 points, T:1437, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat 09:04 To me it would make more sense to keep a counter of trees that aren't chopped down cross-level and use it as a percentage for generating an axe on a new level, then resetting it on axe generation 09:04 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha) shouted "*@&%!!", on T:3 09:04 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha) shouted "*@&%!!", on T:3 09:04 Honestly though since every ogre has a love-axe with them... 09:04 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha) shouted "does this actually make in-game noise bhaak", on T:3 09:04 a what now 09:04 jettyplay doesn't understand 256 color 09:05 luxidream: no 09:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:224, killed by a bear trap 09:05 The ogre-axe marriage ceremony is beautiful and frightening 09:05 lol. i just tried to do it too but i was not paying enough attention and only now noticed the [un] tags 09:06 my nh370 orc wiz in the valley tried to shout 09:06 but no sound came out 09:06 oh PDO sqlite 09:06 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha) shouted "無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄", on T:3 09:07 luxidream: having fun? :P 09:07 <@luxidream> i'm done 09:07 -!- luxidream has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08 unnethack doesn't even randomly generate grawlixes smh 09:08 man but can't you do sql injection here 09:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:09 wut why cant i do itttt 09:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:220461 09:11 The rule is injection happens everywhere there is a variable :-) 09:13 oh lol i was trying to put it al i 09:13 all in one line # shout something 09:13 [hdf-eu] [un] aoei (Bar Orc Fem Cha) shouted "(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻", on T:480 09:13 Dammit Unicode you ruined everything 09:14 what do you mean, ruined? 09:14 I miss my 6 bit character, 10 bit word Cyber data 09:14 ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 09:14 10 char word sorry 09:15 It is the arbitrarily rendered emoji extensions that give me conniptions 09:16 i love it 09:16 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 09:16 A letter or hiragana character is always recognizably the same but emoji do not share a common language interpretation but a cultural interpretation 09:16 and now i switched terminal emulator to alacritty they all render perfectly 09:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:16 so i can have emojis in weechat :3 09:17 people have nonironically suggested we use emojis in commit messages at work 09:17 I would rather gnaw off my own foot 09:18 There's an emoji for that! (presumably :-) 09:18 idk i'd be fine with people doing it just bc they feel like 09:18 but suggesting it as some sort of... whats the word 09:18 general practice... 09:18 seems odd... 09:18 no one I know of is using them in commit messages but my team loves using them in all the work-management stuff 09:19 basically following something like this: https://gitmoji.carloscuesta.me/ 09:20 yeah no 09:20 Ugh. But I gotta say, properly-followed conventions are almost always helpful, so I guess I would just grit my teeth 09:20 "emoji guide for your commit messages" WUT 09:20 I'd rather they actually write good commit messages before faffing around with emojis in them L 09:21 only makes sense to use them in commit msgs if you can guarantee everyone reading your commit messages ever will be reading them on github or whatever web interface 09:21 otherwise we'd just go from `git commit -m '...'` to `git commit -m ':bug: ...'` 09:21 yeah seems daft amateurhour 09:21 veto that shit as hard as you can 09:21 die on the hill etc. 09:22 if you have people reading commit msgs on gnome terminal piped through X Windows piped through VPN like me, that gets dangerously ugly 09:22 ok richard stallman 09:23 lol what do you mean by the stallman thing amateurhour 09:23 plus, this is a whole level of language with its own learning curve (not a huge one but still) 09:23 " generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly." 09:23 amateurhour: hahhaa 09:23 that's convoluted 09:23 amateurhour: no I just have a convoluted way of connecting to development servers (not my choice, that's how it's set up) 09:24 fair enough 09:24 i heard rumours aobut stallman 09:24 the guy's a psycho and an asshole 09:24 or so they say 09:25 who needs css when you can render it in your head 09:25 loool 09:25 rms is a lot to take 09:25 hans reiser still wins the creepiest person in open source tho i guess 09:25 K2: so until the update statement everything works as expected? 09:25 anyway, re gitmoji: if someone new joins the project, they're not going to recognize what the connotations of that sparkle emoji are, and then you have to waste time explaining it to them, which is probably a worse tradeoff for saving a few characters in commit messages 09:25 man where is he lol 09:26 yeah, I hate it 09:26 yeah just normal writing is fine here 09:26 smh 09:26 doesn't google do basically this model except sensible textual keywords 09:26 stenno1 yes 09:26 like every commit msg must start with one of 7 keywords or something 09:26 that sounds a bit more reasonable 09:27 you input user/email, you're sent an email with a link, click the link, that page says your pw has been reset to but it doesnt happen. dbase isnt touched 09:28 Nothing in the sqllite logs? 09:28 i checked perms on db, they are good 09:28 lemme look 09:29 do u even postgres bro 09:30 I assume pdo can do postgres instead if anyone cared 09:32 for this, no 09:32 forget about using a db and keep it all in memory for performance gains :^) 09:32 YEAH 09:32 amateurhour: isn't that called "redis"? 09:32 elenmirie__: do you remember which ttyrec shows the vault guard & corridor thing? 09:32 (its possible ive misunderstood what redis is tbf) 09:34 You could also stick in an sqlite trace if the logs aren't helpful 09:36 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Nob Elf Mal Cha), 686 points, T:795, killed by an acid blob 09:37 K2: so the requests don't show up in teh sqlite log? 09:37 i cant even find the sqlite log hah 09:37 There should be two. What is your environment? 09:39 ubuntu server, apache2 php 7.4 09:39 sqlite doesnt pop up in the syslog 09:40 Mm, sqllite3 might have ditched logging. Sweet 09:41 I guess error logs aren't "lite" enough 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:42826 09:41 Need to manually set something up with sqlite3_config 09:42 yeah i see that https://sqlite.org/errlog.html 09:42 s the script currently running? 09:42 yeah 09:43 well 09:43 https://www.hardfought.org/nh/resetpw.php 09:43 let's use scummo2 i guess 09:43 good old scummo2 09:43 I'd assume easiest next step is copy the query into the sql command shell and see what it barfs back at you 09:43 what was the username you tested it with? 09:43 my own 09:44 you need a valid email address with the account 09:44 have 09:45 i dont think its sqlite though 09:45 That is not a valid email address, or it does not match the username. 09:45 it isnt even touched 09:45 (the db) 09:45 i checked perms, they should be good (they mirror what NAO has) 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2175 09:45 and this ued to work before the salt/hash changes to dgl 09:45 oh hm 09:45 *used 09:45 paxed: if the guard just teleported you out of the vault it would solve so many weird bugs :) 09:45 selinux? 09:45 no 09:46 ubuntu 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:50057 09:47 Ring of P'hul here I come! 09:47 nice! 09:47 K2: ubuntu oesn't use selinux? 09:47 no 09:48 well it does, but apparently you don't 09:48 It can 09:49 K2: can you do a few debug logging thingies? 09:49 hmm 09:49 yeah 09:50 K2: in change_password, can you output $nick and $passw 09:50 $passwf 09:50 argh 09:50 and then again after the two return statements? 09:52 hmm 09:52 i dont have php kung fu, i just edit whats already there 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed magic marker", on T:42998 09:53 i touch this stuff like once every 2-3 yrs 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:43000 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:43002 09:53 I remember scoffing at php in the 90s -- nobody would ever use that crap :-) 09:53 nowadays its better 09:53 hm if I go to a code boot camp can I learn kung fu? 09:54 <{Demo}> you can scoff at php again now 09:54 aosdict: no but if they have C courses you can do target practice with your feet 09:56 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided arch-liches dungeon wide on T:52736 09:56 K2: what is your webserver, apache? 09:56 si 09:57 mod_php or fpm? 09:57 mod_php 09:57 apache error log doesn't say anything? 09:57 no 09:58 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Hlf Mal Neu), 239 points, T:1033, killed by a brown mold 09:59 well it works for function check_nick_email_validity($nick, $email), right 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4755 points, T:2908, killed by a magic missile 09:59 yes 09:59 you get an email w/ link 09:59 link seems to work 09:59 but db is never edited 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:43137 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:43138 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:43147 10:05 K2: lets try it with a prepared statement instead 10:05 ok 10:07 actually 10:07 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ico Mal Law) killed Moldoux, the Defenceless Mold, on T:164 10:08 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ico Mal Law), 1963 points, T:165, killed by a monster (great wyrm of power) 10:08 ah 10:08 apparently that was a bad thing to do 10:08 K2: can you comment in the lines above the last line in change_password 10:08 the print_r($db->errorInfo()) 10:09 then i will send debugx=1 10:09 yup 10:09 ok tell me when you are done, and i will send the request 10:10 go for it 10:10 kk 10:10 just the print_r line or that wntire statement? 10:10 entire 10:11 the entire block statement 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1536 10:11 er block comment 10:11 ok now do it :) 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 868 points, T:1720, killed by an imp 10:13 K2: 10:13 Reset your password 10:13 Array ( [0] => HY000 [1] => 8 [2] => attempt to write a readonly database ) 10:13 wtf 10:13 problem solved 10:13 or problem recognized, rather 10:13 i specifically checked chmod/chown settings on the db 10:13 before starting any of this 10:14 lol 10:15 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Nob Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the Rat King, on T:11996 10:16 stenno1 thanks 10:16 np 10:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Hlf Mal Law), 67 points, T:275, killed by a jackal 10:18 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12492 10:21 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 196 points, T:586, killed by a boulder 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:51382 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law), 110 points, T:393, killed by a jackal 10:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:23998 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:45140 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1210 points, T:2997, killed by a manes, while fainted from lack of food 10:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2016 10:51 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 10:51 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (kornbluth.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 10:51 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2078 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 95 points, T:422, killed by a poisonous corpse 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1109 points, T:3333, killed by a wolf 10:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:00 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest72103 11:00 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:00 -!- Guest72103 has quit [Killed (tepper.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:00 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:46007 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:46008 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:46029 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Necromancer, on T:46058 11:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:26839 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Wizard, on T:46076 11:07 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 11:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Peregrinatrix, on T:15889 11:14 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 11:20 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:21 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 11:24 good morning, today I am going to spend 16k zorkmids on crystal plate mail on purpose 11:25 huh 11:26 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:28 :) 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24628 11:29 i just explained what zorkmids were to mini-me 11:30 'you said zorkmids!' 11:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3101 11:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17644 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47001 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:47001 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:47011 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3822 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3875 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1625 points, T:2973, killed by withering away 11:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed for the first time, on T:29945 11:35 * spontiff curses loudly. 11:38 nou :( 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4990 11:39 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ico Mal Law) obtained the luckstone from Mines End, on T:8116 11:39 noice 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:5442 11:40 amateurhour: do you need two luckstones in slex to make *sure* your luck doesn't time out? 11:40 ahh that sucks spontiff. First I've ever noticed the breaking paci beholder message 11:40 otherwise luckstone bit op imotbh 11:40 it doesn't prevent luck timeout iirc 11:40 just slows it down or something 11:40 oh lol 11:40 of course it doesn't 11:40 xD 11:40 lol 11:40 * aoei should have known 11:41 same in unnethack iirc 11:41 also the guaranteed luckstone in the mines can be cursed 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:24387 11:41 because f u thats why 11:41 hmm 11:41 make player suffer 11:41 maybe i am misremebering 11:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1943 points, T:4987, killed by an Elvenking 11:41 also there's another version of the mines later in the game called the deep mines 11:41 to the point they want their char dead asap 11:41 the reward is a stone of magic resistance 11:41 which sounds great 11:41 but 11:41 (not an original aoei line it hink its nhqdb someplace) 11:41 over time it'll autocurse, and while it's cursed you take double damage from all sources 11:42 wow 11:42 ah memories 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:44 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) polymorphed their first object, on T:46577 11:44 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ico Mal Law), 22099 points, T:8251, killed by a monster (evasive troll) 11:45 i guess the thing i find most impressive 11:45 is that the game has a playerbase of non-zero size 11:46 lol 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:47228 11:46 I know I harp on about it a lot but there's not that many things to change to make it generally playable imo 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed ezion's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:7088 11:47 amateurhour: yes but you also know these few changes will never happen xD 11:47 yeah 11:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16188 points, T:5274, crunched in the head by an iron ball 11:52 yet clearly it does have some kind of appearl 11:52 appeal* 11:52 cuz you and mobe, and others keep playing 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6829 points, T:8167, poisoned by a queen bee 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:47623 11:55 well mobileuser is destined to be the next person to beat slex 11:55 fair point 11:55 i also expect him to 5-streka it 11:55 and I play the occasional game when I don't know what else to do :) 11:56 mobileuser: no pressure 11:56 amateurhour: lol 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:47790 11:56 there's some really cool stuff in there though 11:56 i know 11:57 bu tthere's also just so *much* and the too many complicated and off-putting mechanisms 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Mage, on T:47908 11:58 or monsters that have a complicated name but are just popcorn 11:58 lol 11:59 q: should i be worried about a blorching darkbread zurty? a: probably not, unless it makes you Dee Double Super Cursed. 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:47975 11:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 12:00 even SpliceHack, which is much more conservative in its kitchen-sinkiness, and mechanisticly simple, i find slightly overwhelming 12:01 (this is also my excuse for the game i parked permanently in the mines <.<) 12:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "a blessed fixed greased +2 shield of reflection", on T:25114 12:02 lol is there slex bashing going on right now? :P 12:02 * LarienTelrunya adds "blorching darkbread zurty" (sic) to her slex todo list 12:02 no bashing here 12:02 <@based> i got a slow digestion ring on my infernal mage in splicehack so im ready to find an atlar and scum for 40k turns 12:02 i called slex very impresive 12:02 slex [audience waits in nervous anticipation, some looking a little angry] 12:02 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 12:02 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:02 bad [audience erupts in cheering and applause] 12:03 heh I'm about to look at all the backscroll 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:48210 12:04 amateurhour: lol why shouldn't the luckstone in the mines be able to be cursed? the .des file doesn't specify its BUC, so like any other randomly generated item it has a randomized BUC, of course 12:04 <@based> inb4 amy has an RSS feed that automatically notifies her when slex is mentioned anywhere on the internet 12:04 heh I wish! 12:04 based i think inb4 means you have say it before it happened 12:05 Amy u lie :v 12:06 aoei: to which statement does that claim apply? :P 12:06 +LarienTelrunya | heh I wish! <-- the one where you deny your RSS feed 12:06 also why shouldn't slex have a playerbase, maybe there are some masochists out there who enjoy suffering ♥ 12:06 looool 12:06 fair point 12:06 note though 12:06 i didn't say it shouldn't have one 12:06 i just said it was impressive that it does c: 12:07 heh 12:07 most slex players get bored (or more likely, ragequit) at some point, but of course there may always be new ones who want to give it a try (and don't know what they're getting into :D ) 12:07 lmao 12:07 its also so clear that you enjoy this 12:07 and im all for that 12:08 yes, I definitely do! when players complain about things that are obviously working as intended, I often laugh my ass off :P 12:08 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:08 <3 12:08 especially when they somehow think they can get me to change them (example: nasty traps, every single player complains about them) even though there have been plenty other players who complained about the same thing before 12:08 lol 12:09 LarienTelrunya: For people used to typical game design, it is very not obvious that something annoying is working as intended 12:10 regarding nasty traps I like them just wish they didn't last quite as long 12:10 * aoei currently has no interest in playing slex 12:10 amateurhour: you said that before :P so I'll reiterate that the duration is exactly as I want it, or occasionally I feel that it could be a little longer 12:10 but other people have said teh same thing and went back later XD 12:11 *cough* amateurhour *cough* 12:11 aosdict: yes, because players usually don't realize right away that slex doesn't use "typical" game design :P 12:11 maybe slex should have a big red neon sign on it 12:11 ico is a lot of fun albeit difficult 12:11 warning of danger 12:11 and non-standard/non-typical interface screws that are really confusing 12:12 ico is IMHO very difficult later on when monsters' DPS output keeps going up but your damage output doesn't quite scale enough to keep your HP high 12:12 but anyway the point of slex isn't a fun and balanced game, it's an art piece where the creator steps on you with high heels 12:12 XD 12:12 someone qdb this pls ^ 12:12 yaaaaaaaaaaay! 12:12 <3 12:12 right, if the game intro said "this game is not designed to be fun", i wouldn't mind it being in JNH so much 12:13 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 12:13 spicycat: it is designed to be fun, but it's not designed to be fair :P 12:13 in its current iteration, it can lead to a lot of unnecessary frustration, because people are trying to get trophies and don't know what they're in for 12:13 and also not designed to be consistently winnable even if the player is very skilled at the game 12:13 unless you're Tariru i guess xX 12:13 XD 12:14 imo junethack should remove 3.6.6 and dnhslex, I don't get why either of those are in there 12:15 if they're still in there in June I'll do a dnhslex run 12:15 do you mean exclude vanilla and have it just be vafriants 12:15 why? it's the only way I could ever get someone to play dnhslex 12:15 LarienTelrunya: that's why i think ^ 12:15 well if people want to play vanilla 3.7 would still be in there 12:15 and yeah I know I should update it someday... maybe during my vacation, which starts next sunday and goes until Dec 31 12:15 i just don't get why 4 versions of vanilla are in junethack 12:16 amateurhour: ah right i guess 3.7 will be done by nexgt june? 12:16 atm there's 1.3d, 3.4.3, 3.6.6 and 3.7.0 12:16 where there already 3 versions this year? 12:16 yeah 12:16 lol 12:16 <{Demo}> no slex allowed 12:17 <{Demo}> also im the best dnhslex player the world has ever seen 12:17 the stats confirm it^ 12:17 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:17 LarienTelrunya: if the only reason you can get anyone to play a game is that its in a tournament, it shouldn't be in the tournament in the first place :P 12:17 glollhack :^) 12:18 what's that, amateurhour ? 12:18 typo of gnollhack 12:18 ah ok 12:18 lol not my fault that no one is taking dnhslex seriously :P (well I guess it is, because it's a joke variant, but it still requires some skill to win and is IMHO fun) 12:18 was that a similar case to dnslex then? 12:18 again, i hit the leocrotta with sleep twice, he just doesnt fall asleep 12:18 he has MR 10 12:18 LarienTelrunya: not saying it's anyone's fault 12:19 something is not right here 12:19 if I'm understanding it correctly dnhslex is just old dnh with increased carry capacity and a few shoe monsters 12:19 LarienTelrunya: i just think if a game can't draw players on its own merit, why is it bieng included in a tournament? 12:19 unless I'm missing something 12:19 in which case my same feeling towards 4 variants of vanilla applies 12:19 aoei: see gnollhack :D 12:19 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 12:20 will brb a sec 12:20 amateurhour: sounds almost as bad as my doggo hats evilhack fork 12:20 probably more than 2 lines of code tho i guess 12:20 does bhaak have irc highlights for JNH talk? 12:20 doggoevilhack for junethack 12:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2073 12:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:2106 12:21 amateurhour: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AmyBSOD/dnhslex/devel-3.16.1-master/history.txt 12:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:9552 12:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:24 reflectoban 12:24 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3613 12:25 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3644 12:25 !who 12:25 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] karibou [evil] AlbertB [nh370] elron [nh370] Jilvane [spl] sflicht [spl] nekochan [spl] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] Glord [nh370] jt [nh370] elenmirie [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:26 about to do something I would never ever imagine I would have done 12:26 <@based> damn poisoned daggers 12:26 which is write and read a scroll of amnesia 12:26 <@based> 9 str struggle 12:26 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 12:27 Neko-chan: woah no way 12:28 <@based> ah no 12:28 <@based> helm of brilliance, speed boots, slow digestion blood magic ring and robe 12:28 <@based> nooooooooooooo 12:28 <@based> and its all ogre 12:28 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 12:29 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 2507 points, T:3765, killed by a poisonous corpse 12:29 rip 12:30 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Kni Ang Fem Law), 72 points, T:226, withered away 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25357 12:32 LarienTelrunya: [backscroll] Fair enough, I'm just disputing your use of "obvious", because I think someone would need to be you to realize on first sight that nasty slex stuff is working as intended 12:33 like a little Hinweis somewhere at the start Amy 12:33 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 12:34 heh, don't want to spoil the entire game to the player! :P 12:34 Agggh beholder petrifying gaze when stuffed 12:34 something like what amateurhour said about how its not a game but a masochistic art piece 12:34 sadistic 12:34 whatever 12:35 sadistic artwork disguised as roguelike :o 12:35 heh, maybe it's also a shitpost in game form :P 12:35 that's not very fair on slex 12:35 but i know you didnt mean it 12:35 yeah I guess if it was, it would be much more unplayable 12:36 [backscroll] wow... 12:36 it is destiny mobileuser 12:36 mobileuser: wow at any of it in particular, or just the general hting 12:36 d e s t i n y 12:36 ohhh that ofc 12:36 hahah 12:36 for the record, I don't believe I am capable of beating slex ;-) 12:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 392 points, T:747, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a potion 12:36 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 12:36 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest40042 12:36 -!- Guest40042 has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 12:36 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:36 dw mobileuser 12:36 you don't have to believe it for it to be true 12:36 we believe in you 12:37 yes 12:37 lol 12:37 and with the power of friendship, you can overcome anything 12:37 :D 12:37 is that from friendship is magic or am i mixing refs 12:37 we believe you can ascend evilhack amateurhour!! 12:37 :b 12:39 what killed me last time 12:39 vlad 12:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:26061 12:39 that was like a year ago or something wild 12:39 looks like I just #quit for no reason 12:39 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1602795008.evil.txt 12:39 oh 12:40 polymorph 12:40 all my stuff got poly'd 12:40 lol amateurhour mobileuser remembers your evilhack progress better than you do! 12:40 nah 12:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:40 you looked it up didnt you 12:40 duh 12:41 * aoei is a dum 12:41 amateurhour will never forget vlad 12:41 vlad more like bad >:( 12:41 evilhack vlad sounds scary 12:41 i dont want to meet that guy 12:41 i also never want to meet demogorgon 12:41 uguys i think evilhack not for me 12:42 just have drain res for vlad then he's fine 12:42 km 12:42 ok* 12:42 EvilHack is amazing 12:42 \o/ 12:42 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha), 927 points, T:1468, overpowered by a rabid rat 12:42 it is! 12:43 gotta wish for something lame like helm of drain re 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 11252 points, T:3574, killed by a jaguar 12:43 Unfortunately the object properties make it a little broken, but don't let K2 know or he'll nerf your full set of dragonhide gear 12:43 if by amazing you mean -ly terrifying 12:43 Sorry, materials (properties also a little gimme tho :-) 12:43 ahem make it balanced :b 12:44 materials is a doubled edge sword though 12:44 some dwarf spawns in soko and is totally unkillable with like -100 ac from their enchanted mithril gear 12:45 That happened to me this game -- they also had a +3 crystal dwarven sword 12:45 I bouldered and abandoned them 12:45 luckily, killing dwarves is not a requirement for winning the game 12:46 <{Demo}> eating some rolos wish they had those in nethack 12:46 then again you probably really want their gear lol 12:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:20978 12:47 I wish more people played EvilHack, I get tired of seeing my own ghosts 12:47 lol 12:47 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) attained the rank of Knight of Talons, on T:47373 12:47 don't die and you wont leave bones :D 12:48 My time-honored strategy involves endless dying 12:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2453 12:48 krm26: I employ a similar strategy to great success 12:48 I pay no attention until I meet a certain threshold of excellence through random chance 12:49 You see here a steel broadsword named Luck Blade (for sale, 24000 zorkmids). 12:49 how unlucky 12:50 krm26: tbf my main EvilHack strat (after not playing), is also dying 12:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1664 12:50 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (water nymphs), on T:1033 12:50 yay amateurhour plays evilhack! 12:50 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:51 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 12:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3356 12:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3400 12:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:63109 12:56 gnomish wizards suck 12:56 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:47711 12:57 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:57 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1922 12:58 amateurhour: orc wiz p great tho 12:58 never ascended one before but am enjoying 12:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:4528 12:59 I meant the evilhack monster aoei, though I agree with you for that 13:00 ohhh yeah 13:00 they're annoying and occasionally deadly in vanilla 13:00 in eivl th 13:00 ey're nasty 13:00 oh you're heading to minetown to try get a bag to protect your scrolls? 13:01 lol well they're just ash now so don't worry about it 13:01 lol 13:01 F 13:01 i started dropping mine by the stairs above minetown 13:01 but that carries other risks 13:03 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:2336 13:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:10509 13:06 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest25533 13:06 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 13:06 -!- Guest25533 has quit [Killed (tepper.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 13:06 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1816 points, T:2542, poisoned by a jumping spider 13:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2763 points, T:4410, killed by a soldier ant 13:08 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha), 6533 points, T:2659, slaughtered by a hex dragon 13:08 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 13:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:27671 13:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3020 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 4 points, T:107, killed by a dart 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 0 points, T:54, killed by a goblin 13:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:63342 13:13 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 13:13 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 13:13 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 13:14 [hdf-us] [fh] Mr Sparkle (jonathanhanes) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 26489 points, T:1587, killed by a Ms. Pakka Pakka, the shopkeeper's wand 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 722 points, T:2853, killed by a rothe 13:17 zomg elf priest wish 13:17 mkot or boh 13:17 probably 13:17 boh 13:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:11344 13:17 hell yeah 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1938 13:18 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:26899 13:24 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:25 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:26 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 13:26 do intelligent artifacts check the alignment of monsters who may desire to wield them? 13:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:31302 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:27093 13:27 fuck marry kill: bag of holding, magic marker, unicorn horn 13:28 I'd marry boh, fuck magic marker and kill the unicorn 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 450 points, T:1708, killed by a gnome 13:28 monsters wont use crossaligned artis iirc 13:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 17802 points, T:7029, killed by a piranha 13:29 noted, thank you 13:30 Neko-chan: I mean, magic marker is limited use while boh will be good for you the whole game so it sorta makes sense? 13:31 I've actually really thought this through over the last couple of days 13:31 though life without unihorn would be rough 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1951 points, T:3032, killed by a poisonous corpse 13:31 I've simply begun to embrace being confused though 13:31 it's exciting 13:31 I'm still entertaining the idea of having the player build up an immunity to unicorn horn curing 13:32 so it gets gradually less likely to cure something over time, though not extremely so unless you really abuse it 13:32 unihorns should be aligned based on their source unicorn and have penalties if you use a cross aligned unihorn 13:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:33 getting a coaligned unihorn is really difficult lol 13:33 While as a human being who avoids suffering in a primal way, I appreciate the unihorn. As someone who considers games as a system, an item that effectively removes this huge mechanic from the game is probably a little strong 13:33 You can't just have a flag on them and three different names via a hidden character or something? 13:33 like the appearance name could still be unihorn but then when identified it's the aligned name 13:34 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:34 unless I am fundamentally misunderstanding the element of this that would be hard 13:34 * jonadab whistles innocently. 13:35 I just polymorphed meatballs for the first time and it's bringing me a lot of joy. I love polymorphing things 13:35 no getting as in obtaining 13:35 oh right yeah 13:35 it would be challenging then 13:36 unihorn is already nerfed in 3.7 13:36 right now its perfect imo 13:36 yeah remove the restore ability power was a good move imho 13:36 maybe that's enough to balance it 13:36 Unicorn horns should be charged 13:37 and if it isn't, then maybe it could be like whatever variant which checks the enchantment of the unihorn when it's applied 13:37 as that seems like a good way to use already present mechanics to even it out a bit 13:37 though plenty of people just main weapon them and do that anyways so maybe again that's just not enough 13:37 stenno1: I don't like how it enables you to write off hallucination, confusion, *deadly illness* effects like they don't matter infinitely 13:37 ^ 13:38 it just strips a mechanic of the game that would otherwise bring challenge to some monotonous parts of the game 13:38 yeah its still a bit op even after the restore ability nerf 13:38 however, it's also a _game_ and it's okay to have fun while playing a game and not everything has to be min/maxed miserable, this isn't slex 13:38 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 13:38 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 13:38 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 13:38 if I were to make this change, I'd probably give it restore ability powers back 13:39 I like the alignment idea, maybe that would be a way of further differentiating the alignments too 13:39 aosdict: also reasonable 13:39 eg cha can only reliably (?) use co-aligned ones, neutral can use any, lawful neu or law 13:40 Maybe unihorns should do exactly one thing based on their enchantment. Cure confusion at +0, cure hallucination at +1, cure sickness at +2, restore ability at +3 etc 13:40 so then you can get the super power infinite heal, but you have to pick one or two, and hedge against the others in different ways 13:41 oor.. cursed unihorn ones behave like cha ones, blessed like lawful, uncursed like neu 13:41 The elf-lord wields an uncursed elven broadsword! 13:41 finally@ 13:41 I want a lannnnnnnnceeeeeeeeeeee 13:41 I am so close to wishing for one but I know that means I will find one immediately 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2445 13:42 jousting is just too good 13:42 silver lance in H-E-Double hockey sticks??? sign me up, I'm jousting the demogorgon right back to where he came from 13:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:12137 13:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:12137 13:43 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest29354 13:43 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 13:43 -!- Guest29354 has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 13:43 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:2571 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 550 points, T:1643, burned by molten lava 13:45 [hdf-us] [fh] Mr Sparkle (jonathanhanes) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 34864 points, T:3507, killed by an imp 13:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:63757 13:45 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:46 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:1398 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Susanowo, on T:12251 13:46 wisely indeed 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2046 13:47 just have to remember to not bump into monster 13:47 s 13:47 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 563 points, T:1899, slaughtered by a giant fly 13:49 stenno1: i am lazy i ordered pizza :o 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:38108 13:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed ezion's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:22238 13:51 more time for nethack? 13:52 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 13:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 13:54 idk how long its been since I wrote here, bracing for messages 13:54 AntiGulp: Messages from Neko-chan and shadowcat have been forwarded to you privately. 13:54 oof 13:54 s-sorry 13:54 your splicehackers like to !tell you 13:54 It’s all good :) 13:54 I just haven’t logged in to hf for like… a month? 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3722 points, T:4269, killed by a bolt of lightning 13:58 I'm still not convinced conflict does much of anything in EvilHack 13:59 So many splicehack bugs to fix, so little time 14:02 spicycat: yes 14:03 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4622 14:03 Uh oh, Yeenoghu 14:05 golden naga and i don't have mr 14:06 AntiGulp: it's a covid surge in late 2020, what else are you doing? :P 14:07 AntiGulp, unlike some of us, seems to actually have a life lately 14:07 uhhhh yeah definitely 14:07 * AntiGulp has been playing xenogears for the last 18 hours 14:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 60346 points, T:14500, killed by a minotaur 14:07 got two-turned 14:07 !lastgame stenno 14:07 stenno1: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1607255247.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 14:07 stenno1: RIP :( 14:07 that's fair. I've spent most of the weekend reading rhythm of war 14:07 <@based> rip 14:07 not much xnh progress 14:08 Hmm, I suppose Yeenoghu is going to run to the up stairs in Vlad's tower even though it is really "down" 14:08 AntiGulp: so idk if it's something you're working on but I've thought about writing up some copy or finding good quotes for some encylopedia entries. Is that something you're working on already? I don't want to step on any toes lol 14:08 also mino woke up in the next turn 14:08 well i am done for now with this bullshit 14:08 minotaurs are so scary 14:08 I always underestimate them 14:08 yeah i forgot to calculate that it can just hit me twice after it appeared from around the corner 14:08 Neko-chan: I’ve been pretty hands-off with SpliceHack lately. I would love any submissions for encyclopedia entries! 14:09 sounds good~ 14:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30371 14:09 my fault, i should have known that it appears from nowehere and gets two turns 14:09 i mean, it would be be boring otherwise 14:09 tfw when you want to dig for victory but H says "no" 14:09 you did dfv? 14:10 I used to try it a lot 14:10 i dont really do it 14:10 I’ve never actually tried it. It seems fun tho 14:10 when I was past my first ascend but still pretty new at the game I got really invested in trying all the different little cheese strategies like that 14:10 I think it kinda held me back more than anything though lol 14:11 I've had to teach myself that it's actually okay to gain levels 14:11 you don't have to always do insurance racket, it's okay, just kill the newt 14:11 Neko-chan: if you can think of encyclopedia entry sources for xnh things I'd love them as well! I have a list of unassigned ones 14:11 aosdict: I will look through there when I'm digging in! There is probably some overlap. 14:11 forgot that a mino can two-hit me with 75 HP 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:52496 14:11 -14 AC 14:12 man getting double-turned by a mino 14:12 I've been using the encyclopedia a ton lately since I found about / 14:12 biggest fucking bulsshit 14:12 It's really dumb 14:12 they hit so hard 14:12 \who thought that that was a good idea 14:12 The fact that minotaurs resist Elbereth hurts me 14:12 I got knocked down to two life by one with -33 ac in two turns last night and I swear my heart stopped for a full minute 14:12 mino double hits me because devteam doesn't want me to kite fucking mimics 14:13 that is the reason for this bullshit 14:13 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:13 Player: Exists. Minotaur: And I took that personally. 14:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:13 i took that personally and double my attacks 14:14 because that is balanced 14:14 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6959 14:14 2x(3d10, 3d10, 2d8) 14:14 not bad for a level 15 monster 14:15 the minotaur certainly is one of those monsters which seems to exist out of spite for the player 14:15 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:7116 14:15 no, it would have been fine 14:15 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:7134 14:15 disenchanters :( 14:16 totally unrelated but is it worth it to wish for a MM to write charging even when you aren't a wizard and don't know the scroll? 14:16 but i forgot that he can get double action at every random point in the gae 14:16 otherwise i would cursed teleported away 14:16 Neko-chan I would say no personally, but I don’t really optimize magic marker use 14:17 fucking waste of time with this bullshit 14:17 cause like, I'm not sure how that breaks down percentagewise. I think it's probably worth it, as I have 33% or whatever and a MM can get like 4-6 tries 14:17 My brain unfortunately never stops wanting to wish for magic markers, it's a disease, I'm sick 14:17 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 4974 points, T:7425, taken down by a jaguar 14:17 wow okay so the page I had up literally has a table about this, lol, I should learn 2 read 14:18 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:18 welp, just had a hard fight against an Aleax 14:19 only realized midway through I was trying to use Frost Blade against something cold resistant 14:19 -!- stenno1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] 14:19 Every balrog and his mother has a +4 bullwhip of fire down here, sheesh 14:19 🥴 14:19 I short sworded them down though 14:19 They had a shield of reflection, which'll do nicely until I grab my SDSM from the wizard bones 14:20 ah I will simply succeed on my first try 14:20 krm26 explain to me how obj materials are broken in evilhack :) 14:20 >clueless 14:21 obj materials are not broken in any variant and should never be investigated by the devs 14:21 <--- xmas tree get! 14:21 nice!!! are you decorating it tonight with mini you? 14:21 <{Demo}> what kind? 14:21 ! 14:21 the nice smelling kind 14:21 <{Demo}> fir? pine? 14:21 kewl 14:21 Nice! 14:21 <{Demo}> pines smell harder 14:21 i forget, one sec 14:22 the real ones make my lungs shut off, but I love christmas trees and christmas decorations so much 14:22 blue spruce 14:22 I put up my decorations in mid november lol 14:22 I love them, but come on, wishing for a dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance puts you in an entirely different game 14:22 thats not a bug 14:23 I think the problem with that sentence was 'of drain resistance' and not 'dragonhide' 14:23 but if you think i should nerf it... 14:23 :D 14:23 obj_materials are just so fun and cool though?? 14:23 they ARE 14:23 YES 14:23 Love object materials 14:23 While you're here, is there something weird with conflict in EvilHack? A lot of the time I can't tell any difference in monster behavior with conflict on 14:24 like I have never been more excited about a system in nethack lol 14:24 AntiGulp: transmuters are such a cool monster 14:24 My tree is the fuckin small 14:24 Neko-chan: Thanks! They’re one of my faves! 14:24 I am on a very fun Dra run and I am in the middle of warping a kit for me and my pets 14:24 Having a revgeno party 14:24 !revgeno Transmuters 14:24 tfw no rodney 14:25 Rodney also doesn’t know spl 14:28 That's true, but he just sends the string for that one 14:29 Alright, I have Frost Blade, a shield of reflection and 3 potions of gain level 14:29 Quest time? 14:29 ...wait I'm at like 11.5k epx 14:29 exp* 14:29 At the least I'm more than equipped to go grab my wizard bones so I can add Fire Blade to the collection 14:30 krm26: I agree with you which is why you can't find dragonhide stuff or wish for specific materials in xnethack, but evilhack's freewheeling OPness has turned out to be more popular 14:30 -!- nimsumzero has joined #hardfought 14:31 I do love it. But it isn't super-evil. I think EvilHack might need an "Eviler" mode 14:31 That's what the Evil Patch Idea list is for 14:31 An easy fix is live dragonhide light and erodeproof and reduce its AC bonus to +0, or maybe +1 14:33 Some of the materials are a little bonkers, admittedly. I was thinking about this last night as I was warping my entire kit to the best possible materials that there should maybe be a material that it gets stuck in, like slime or something 14:33 cause like, banning wishing for a material and having it so you must find it or create it balances it by making there be a time sink with no guarantee 14:33 krm26 i already nerfed dragonhide ac by 1 14:34 and to answer your question about ring of conflict - its directly based on your charisma 14:34 Neko-chan: or it erodes in the process? 14:34 but idk I actually love it and I don't want the system to change as I'm only just exploring it 14:34 I shouldn't complain, nethack's combat engine is so bad anyway 14:34 so say you have a charisma of 10 - "oC is only 50% effective 14:34 aosdict: yeah, something like that. e.g. in spl "The foo warps... but the transmuter takes a quick bite!" 14:34 each charisma point is 5% difference 14:34 Once you're in gehennom it is just sufficient damage output and making sure you don't let yourself die to petrification, starvation, or disease 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:2184 14:35 AntiGulp: thank you for fixing the weight change issues during warping material, fyi 14:35 since we're like talking about that 14:35 No probs! 14:36 Or like my current situation where Vlad is going to fill his tower faster than I can kill or move 14:36 I still want to add more materials. Need some real funky ones… 14:36 not being able to wish for a material on a regular object makes zero zense. you can wish up the most powerful quest artifacts that dont even belong to your role, but you cant wish for a wooden long sword... 14:36 yay gulphack! 14:36 Yeah, and there is already a fix for gross material wishes -- do wishless conduct 14:36 AntiGulp: I will try to think of some funky materials to jog your creativity. Last night I was thinking of a slime-like material that makes it so you can't take it off but also it doesn't get destroyed when you polymorph 14:37 AntiGulp: dilithium, nanites, flesh, chips, tinsel, amber, congealed blood 14:37 I love all of these 14:37 TINSEL 14:37 ChristmasHack 14:37 Butttttt tinsel is tin 14:37 hahaha 14:37 Hi Gulp! 14:37 Hi Umbire! 14:37 How's it goin' 14:37 glitter? unicorn juice? rarefied rainbows? 14:38 Umbire: Pretty good! Just vibin in quarantine lol 14:38 "Santa hacks you with the Tinsel longsword! Santa hacks you with the tinsel longsword! Santa gives you a gift.... it explodes!! you are caught in the explosion! Your potion of eggnog boils and explodes! You die.... but wait!! your nose glows red" 14:38 lol 14:38 LOL 14:38 Make it fucking happen 14:39 antigulp we missed you. but why did you take a hiatus from nethack in the middle of a tournament 14:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) killed the invisible Lord Surtur, on T:31499 14:39 I can 14:39 :P 14:39 whoops 14:39 K2: I started coding my own roguelike and got really obsessed with it tbh 14:39 heh 14:39 O: !! 14:39 Spent a lot of hours on it 14:39 Tell! 14:39 owo your own rougelike? 14:39 its all good 14:39 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 14:39 roagelikey 14:39 thank you mister prescriptivist 14:39 Sorry eternal guardian :) 14:40 ruogelike 14:40 eroguelike 14:40 I have a blush I like to use that's a bit of a rougelike 14:40 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 14:41 so what's yer game called, does it use hexes? 14:42 <@based> rougelike 14:42 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 14:42 It's literally a rouge-like though, as in, like rouge 14:42 <@based> rogeulike 14:42 are we using language precisely or not eternal guardian!? 14:42 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:42 [hdf-us] [un] rougelike (Tou Hum Mal Neu) shouted "No, Eternal Guardian, it is spelled 'rougelike'", on T:1 14:43 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 14:43 Basically, working on a roguelike that has a number of its mechanics derived from fighting games. Big emphasis on energy management and creating your own techniques. The clock is that enemies are “KO’d”, and instead of being dead they get back up after a number of turns. 14:43 I've been thinking of porting some of the other original roguelikes out of TUTOR 14:43 Maybe the next quarantine 14:43 so you have to move out of their FoV before they get up? 14:44 i guess this is where you were going with the Dancer role :D 14:44 @luxidream are DDR players all into fighting games too? 14:44 that makes sense 14:44 spicycat: Ideally, yes. Basically, reward exploration and movement. 14:44 cuz there's like timing and stuff 14:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) was given Mjollnir, on T:31714 14:45 spicycat: I play a lot of DDR and games like that (I actually collect and import arcade cabinets) so technically yes lol 14:45 and like there is a huge crossover between FGC and rhythm game people 14:46 pre-covid there was a lot of tournament play for fighting games at pop up rhythm game arcades 14:46 i love crypt of the necrodancer...'s music 14:46 I love rhythm games and I like fighting games. 14:46 lol I've played that on an actual cab spicycat, it's fun 14:46 Also I have [disgusting number of hours] in necrodancer 14:46 I'm more of a pump player than DDR though 14:46 I think like… almost 200 hours now 14:47 i have some kinda of joint inflammation so that's all outta reach but 14:47 have you listened to Mega Drive? 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Enchanter, on T:22195 14:47 Mega Drive? 14:47 Yeah, my knee got totally destroyed a year ago and it's been really hard for me cause I had to completely stop playing all those kind of games. I just play Nostalgia and Ez2ac now 14:48 AntiGulp: 200 ain't bad, i recently did the math one someone's DNH ascensions and they've spent 483 hours just on their victories 14:48 [backscroll] krm26 confused tame monster is very nice if you get overwhelmed. it has a large radius. 14:48 https://megadrive.bandcamp.com/ some trackes remind me of necrodancer 14:48 and I like my dragonhide T-shirt of drain res the way it is :-) 14:48 Yeah, I just Aethiopica'd my way out to regroup. Summoning is gross 14:49 lol 14:49 mobileuser 14:49 o/ 14:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) greeted as a daughter of Skadi, on T:31828 14:50 !booze 14:50 * Beholder tosses nabru a shot of suds, conjured by FCCBot at 468 Kelvin. 14:50 [hdf-us] [un] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "*@&%!!", on T:36 14:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:52 !vodka everyone 14:52 * Beholder hands everyone a tall glass of Belvedere vodka, fermented by demogorgon at 26 degrees Fahrenheit. 14:52 mmmm 14:52 What in hell ferments at that temperature? Is there demon yeast? 14:53 #1 choice of ice devils 14:53 666 years running 14:55 [hdf-us] [un] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "5000 gold pieces", on T:331 14:56 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 14:56 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest62029 14:56 -!- Guest62029 has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 14:56 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 14:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:58 Yay! Turn 53k, finally have grease 14:58 That's going in EVERY nook and cranny 14:58 no visual thank you 14:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:59 Hope you have a blindfold 15:01 lol 15:04 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) wished for "Blessed magic marker named transmuter blue", on T:50137 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:22754 15:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 115 points, T:337, killed by a dwarf 15:08 man i cant do this shit anymore 15:08 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 15:09 you can, and you will :P 15:11 The magic of NetHack lol 15:11 nah i'm done 15:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Traveler, on T:29133 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of protection", on T:53338 15:12 randomized monster movement is literally an EPI 15:13 <@luxidream> Neko-chan: a fellow pump player? 😮 15:13 :O 15:13 I... I love pump it up 15:13 hey i have a nice idea: whenever you enchant armor or wapons, there is a small chance that your gear will evaporate regardless of enchantment 15:13 I've even cosplayed one of the pump girls 15:13 because i mean, its way too safe and predictable now 15:13 krm26: colder than a witch's areola... fermentation... *handwave* 15:14 <@luxidream> did you post that to the Facebook group by any chance 🤔 15:14 No, I didn't post it, but I know exactly who you are talking about 15:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fireproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2636 15:14 like you have a +5 weapon adn you know that enchanting it will be safe 15:14 my wig just wasn't good enough cause I made it myself, I was gonna run it back this year 15:14 i mean how stupid is that, the player can just predict what will happen 15:14 where is the fun and the challenge in that 15:15 I've taken zero cosplay pictures this year, which I guess is surprising cause I it's not like I haven't had the time. 15:15 better invent some artificial broken system to make lul random ecksee 15:15 I just decided to completely forget I have a physical body and only play nethack for the past four months 15:15 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 15:15 <@luxidream> Yeah same 15:15 Wait, what? There are physical people here? 15:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 10150 points, T:4269, killed by an owlbear 15:15 > I just decided to completely forget I have a physical body 15:16 <@luxidream> I haven’t played since March, going to be so bad when I get back 15:16 omg this is why i keep eating tapioca biscuits 15:16 i mean reading enchant weapon/armor is way too trivial 15:16 its trivialized when you know the current enchantment 15:16 That's what illiterate conduct is for 15:17 explosion chance should be randomized, so then its a super fun challenge and not some boring-ass determinism 15:17 I'm blessed to have my own CX cab, but I messed up my knee and keep blowing off physical therapy, so I can't do much more than a couple sets of d12 before I can barely stand 15:17 it's not even that surprising that you're a rhythm gamer luxi, you play this game like a rhythm gamer, that's for sure 15:17 krm26: stenno's rant is about how monster movement was previously knowable and plannable by the player, they don't actually hate enchantment stuff 15:17 <@luxidream> I’m sorry :(( 15:18 <@luxidream> Did you hurt your knee playing? 15:19 <@luxidream> I’d be heartbroken honestly, I have a great pump community where I live and would be real sad to miss out on that 15:19 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 15:19 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (rothfuss.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 15:19 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 15:20 it's the culimnation of a birth aspect of my feet, and it's correctable, I just tend to mess that kind of thing up. I'm really pushing myself to commit to PT again and hopefully get back to my level. I am barely surviving without going to the arcade 15:20 I feel like I need to go login on discord now so I can dm you lmafo 15:20 w-what uh server is even connected to this 15:21 <@Tone> Here's the link Neko https://discord.gg/9pmFGKx 15:21 Thanks! 15:21 <@luxidream> Thanks Tone 15:22 /whois Neko-chan 15:22 oops, wrong window 15:22 luckily now with randomized movements minotaurs are finally a challenge 15:22 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 15:22 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest23669 15:22 -!- Guest23669 has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 15:22 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 15:23 before that they were super pushovers 15:23 Ooh, I should join the discord instead of irc. I’m actually on discord regularly 15:23 <@Tone> What's this about random monster movement? 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:53493 15:23 i am scaring off all the people, i shut up now 15:23 <@Tone> new commit to the dev branch? 15:23 Damn it Thoth, you are such an idiot 15:23 stenno has a bee in their bonnet over the 3.6+ movement changes Tone 15:23 I was already scared off by my phone dying 15:24 krm26: doubtful 15:24 <@Tone> What were the changes, I don't even recall them 15:24 oh sorry was scrolled up, i was respondjng to "physical people are here" with "doubtful" 15:24 AntiGulp: Wait hold on 15:24 <@Tone> most of the 3.6 stuff I have internalized now though, I don't think of them as "new" compared to 343 anymore 15:24 You're doing a fighting game roguelike and didn't tell me!? 15:24 ;o; 15:24 :) 15:25 I can link my weekly writeup in roguelikedev 15:25 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 15:25 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 15:25 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 15:25 * Umbire scraps the idea he had for the same 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:23677 15:25 (Do actually link it to me, though!) 15:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:3551 15:25 I'm just mad because I feel like you mentioned this before but I went and fucking forgot inbetween then and considering my own idea 15:25 aight soon will be time to strim nethack orc barb realtime attempt twitch/aoeixsz4 15:25 I don’t think I’ve ever brought it up lol 15:26 https://old.reddit.com/r/roguelikedev/comments/k2cpce/sharing_saturday_339/gdvwvnb/ 15:26 see if i can do soko fast without fucking it up 15:26 <@luxidream> Chained blitz: the game 15:26 <@based> orc barb... my favorite 15:26 took a whoel hour and 20 min to get to soko1 D: 15:26 number of moves a monster gets is randomised each turn Tone, dependent on their speed 15:26 @luxidream >:( 15:26 but alraedy visited minetown adn got grays and +5 GDSM from lamp wishes lol 15:26 like speed 18 monster has 50% chance of having two moves in one turn 15:27 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 15:27 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest79711 15:27 -!- Guest79711 has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 15:27 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 15:27 <@based> chaotic barb can wish for grayswan? 15:27 <@based> does that work in xnh as well 15:27 anyone can 15:27 now that speed is randomized, minotaurs are finally a challenge 15:27 <@Tone> amateurhour: ah, yes that change 15:27 its not aligned, or it blasts but its not intelligent or whatever 15:27 <@Tone> that's one of the best changes to 3.6 imo 15:28 another day, another stenno rant about randomised movement speed :^) 15:28 well im glad he changed his gtune 15:28 <@Findago> hacker voice I'm in 15:28 <@Tone> nethack may have one of the best roguelike speed systems now 15:28 <@Tone> Welcome Neko 😄 15:28 I wish blessed wands of create monster let you choose the (hostile) monster to create 15:28 ah, the bots grabs my primary key name and not the nickname, tragic 15:29 krm26: That would RULE. 15:29 <@based> zapping a blessed wand of create monster.... while confused!! 15:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8616 15:29 Minos have always been fairly challenging 15:29 At least to me 15:30 <@luxidream> Antigulp: haha that’s just my first thought when it comes to fighting game mechanics in a roguelike lol 15:30 <@luxidream> Obviously your vision is very different 15:30 @luxidream oh I know, I just like getting angry every time chained blitz is mentioned lmao 15:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:4074 15:31 Dammit, I feel obligate to use all these wands of polymorph but there is nothing I want to polymorph anything into 15:31 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 15:31 My OCD is going to make me do it though 15:31 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 25249 points, T:9017, killed by an Uruk-captain 15:32 getting to pick the monster spawned by /oCM would be an extremely easy way to farm unihorns for polypiling 15:32 [hdf-us] [un] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3510 points, T:3905, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:32 Oh definitely. Choosing monsters to spawn would be insanely exploitable, but also crazy fun 15:33 cursed geno would be worthless 15:33 Cursed genocide would still be worth it when you want volume, not worthless at all 15:33 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:57452 15:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:2186 15:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4381 15:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1020 points, T:1620, killed by a magic missile 15:34 but /oCM has a lot of charges and are frequently dropped krm26 15:34 create monster has like 13 charges per recharge 15:34 True 15:34 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 15:34 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest46372 15:34 <@based> maybe certain monsters couldnt be spawned by the /oCM 15:34 -!- Guest46372 has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 15:34 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 15:34 and i have 5 of them before the castle 15:35 Maybe blessed create monster could just create a hostile monster standing on the altar next to me so I don't have to move the corpse :-) 15:36 @based then the developer has to hand craft a list of monsters which are "too useful" to spawn, and that's highly subjective and variable depending on the game/player 15:36 thus almost impossible to do right 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5329 points, T:3143, killed by a soldier ant 15:37 <@based> thats a good point 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 10069 points, T:1833, killed by a xorn 15:38 Damn, had a good speedrun going and then hit the medusa variant with a titan :( 15:38 :/ 15:38 !lastgame AntiGulp 15:38 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/nethack/dumplog/1607282724.nh.html 15:39 <@luxidream> YANI: blessed create monster creates its monsters out of LOS to make it safer for the player in combat situations 15:40 Blessed create monster creates a monster at your difficulty level in the game of another hapless player on your server 15:40 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered Cole, their faithful transmuter, on T:50431 15:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1473 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:439 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 182 points, T:439, killed by a scroll of earth 15:41 <@based> not sure if i wanna wish for grayswandir or the master key of thievery now... 15:41 <@based> only one is guaranteed in xnh.. 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:23839 15:42 <@based> already have stormbringer but grayswandir is so megajuice 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed master key of thievery", on T:23842 15:43 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered their faithful wood nymph, on T:50470 15:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5069 15:46 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 15:46 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 15:46 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1341 points, T:4161, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hill orc 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 201 points, T:493, zapped herself with a wand 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:24104 15:48 * Umbire whispers "chained blitz" in AntiGulp's ear 15:48 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered Francis, their faithful transmuter, on T:50509 15:49 * AntiGulp flips the table 15:49 :3 15:49 If anything I might end up doing mine differently from yours anyway 15:50 I daren't try any other combo than just pummels 15:50 Might attempt to implement a sort of "true" combo system 15:50 Umbire: Do iiiiit 15:50 chained blitz would be infinitely less awful if you just picked which move to do from a list 15:50 AntiGulp: like this? (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 15:50 ^ perfect artistic interpretation 15:50 Honestly need to study that one beat 'em up I saw, Something in Beatdown City? 15:51 i need to make a weechat shortcut for that 15:51 i have this file full of silly utf8 things like that and i grepped it for table then pasted in here lol 15:51 Divekick towards a horde of foes from a few spaces away, focus on a single target, then light Tatsu to knockdown the whole crowd as you DP and FADC into Ultra 15:52 K2: as predicted, i just had a phasing dwarf 15:52 Make it feel like some Shaw Brothers shit 15:52 heh 15:52 bug report! 15:52 elenmirie__ already did it 15:52 So you guys actually mean phasing and not just "digging through shops and getting killed when the wall reappears"? 15:53 Because I figure you do, but I'm having trouble actually picturing it 15:53 also with whom was i discussing about this yesterday 15:54 yeah, it's been seen lots, phasing dwofs 15:54 lets see ttyrec 15:54 I wouldn't say that mulling 8 bottles of cote du rhone into under 1L of liquid was a mistake, but drinking it all this afternoon probably was 15:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:54 I had an invisible one earlier today 15:55 Umbire: no, it's dwarfs that you kill, nowhere near a shop, and all their stuff is embedded in a wall 15:55 can happen anywhere 15:55 From the earth they were made, and to the earth they return 15:55 i am sure it has something to do with them collecting rocks somehow 15:55 there you go 15:55 all mine so far have had a digging tool 15:55 My only question now is do dwarves believe in an Adam and Eve analogue 15:56 hmm 15:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:64112 15:57 mine had a mattock too 15:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:22972 15:58 I mean, if we go by the Silmarillion, they do not have any Adam and Eve parallels. 15:59 What the heck is a gnome king doing on mines level 3? 16:00 Ilúvatar = Adam, Aulë = Eve 16:01 I feel like Iluvatar has more parallels with God, right? 16:01 (I’m midway through the Silmarillion rn) 16:01 Yes, but in this case he "fertilized" Aulë's creation 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 189 points, T:374, killed by a gnome king 16:02 lol I think my slex game crashed at starting 16:02 As I recall the dwarves were busticated at their initial creation and God had to step in and fix them 16:03 "hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:64112" 16:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6382 16:03 OK that is a WTF moment 16:03 did you not kill orcus? 16:03 I was looking around for Orcus and didn't see him anywhere :-) 16:04 !tell LarienTelrunya just had a slex game crash at starting a new game 16:04 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, amateurhour. 16:04 Maybe he got overwhelmed by zombies 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:34309 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:28329 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:54022 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54024 16:07 weirdly, his Orcus Death Weapon is not at his default location... 16:08 Uh oh. 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:25456 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25458 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:28330 16:09 Found it, he must tried to teleport to safety and then got overwhelmed by more zombies 16:09 *must have tried 16:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7013 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 315 points, T:276, killed by a kitten 16:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:22978 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by Ms. Yildizeli; the shopkeeper), on T:798 16:11 why 16:14 twitch.tv/aoeixsz4 not fast player attempts to do soko fast without screwing it up 366 orc bar on nao 16:14 Alright, let's see if this throne will return the wish K2 stole from me 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 862 points, T:1053, killed by a gnome 16:14 Nope 16:15 :/ 16:15 lol 16:16 AntiGulp: Unlucky mongen 16:16 It is OK, my wish would have failed anyway 16:16 Gnome kings are eligible g in Mines level generation iirc 16:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:19 I just failed to write a spellbook of detect monsters 8 times in a row. As a *wizard* :/ 16:19 wut 16:19 I hate alhoons 16:19 they hate you 16:19 Clearly 16:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible dgoddard's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:8026 16:20 do you play genoless krm26? 16:20 ALL - automatic password reset is now functional again, see the 'nethack --> password reset' menu from the hdf website 16:20 Thanks K2! 16:20 or just go here - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/password-reset/ 16:21 i think i've reset my password about 30 times on/off last couple hours hah 16:21 K2 did you comment the debug thing again? 16:21 yup 16:22 thanks to stenno for helping me clear away the dumb 16:22 i didn't do that much 16:22 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:59039 16:22 oh you did 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:28573 16:25 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Dun Mal Law), 584 points, T:613, killed by a monster (Ms. Curig, the shopkeeper) 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 447 points, T:556, killed by an iguana 16:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:9028 16:27 orctown i think 16:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1873 16:27 oh nope 16:29 I hate /oD so much...SO SO much 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 247 points, T:359, killed by a gas spore's explosion 16:29 Now that Orcus has his hands on one I'll be chasing him until it is out of charges 16:31 The garter snake bites! You feel strong! You must have been exercising diligently. 16:31 :D 16:32 Hmm, I totally missed something -- somehow my maximum HP dropped from 2xx to 137. 16:32 Something elder ki-rin can do maybe? Is there an associated message I should put in the rc to look out for? 16:32 read the battle text 16:33 watch what happens when orcus hits you with the wand of orcus 16:33 Ah, awesome 16:33 luckily you have -60 ac :) 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:55035 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed antigulp's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:618 16:34 Just gone for good then? 16:34 well you can raise your max hp by the usual methods 16:34 Righto 16:34 Can't penetrate myself with a unicorn horn tho 16:35 "the usual methods" is good to say with a sneer and laughter 16:35 also a good bandname 16:35 Anything worth scavenging from the corpse? He's in water so planning on just walking away 16:35 not really. his artifact weapon, you cant use 16:36 Are that and Yeenoghu's flail and whatnot worth ascension points? Or just flavor items? 16:36 "Spicycat and The Usual Methods, now performing live at Carnegie Hall" 16:36 yeenoghu's flail you can actually use 16:36 and it hits *hard* 16:36 (wizard tho) 16:36 ah right 16:36 then no 16:37 I wish artifacts were worth more points, I'd much rather scavenge around to pack my bag with them then polypile gems 16:37 but yeah any artifact in your possession is worth asc points 16:38 i'm very glad this hterm business was sorted out 16:38 hterm/hardfought/evilhack are my trinity 16:39 Do the items your pets are carrying count towards your score? 16:39 no 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:26596 16:40 spicycat - rumor has it that the band 'Kansas' used to go by the name 'Free Beer'. so any place they played and was advertized, it pulled in more people than usual 16:40 'now playing, FREE BEER' 16:40 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Dun Mal Law) killed Tommy Vulnerator, on T:1965 16:40 all billy-bob and his freinds see is 'FREE BEER' 16:40 friends 16:40 K2: that sounds like a recipe for very angry crowds 16:41 well it paid off 16:42 that does sound like a good idea 16:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:30643 16:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30644 16:42 my band is now going to be called FREE BEER tomorrow 16:43 with "tomorrow" in really small print 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 8757 points, T:1540, killed by a raven 16:44 side note, I don't follow music all that closely but there don't seem to me to be that many bands named 'X and the Ys' around anymore 16:44 lol elenmirie__ 16:44 <@based> opal ring turns to dust... 16:44 <@based> what could it have been! 16:44 <@based> damn lightning wand 16:44 free action of course 16:44 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 16:44 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (rothfuss.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 16:44 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 16:44 or lev 16:44 Dudley and the Dragons 16:45 Dudley and the Deadly Newts 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 112 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:26834 16:45 Rodney and the Rust Monsters from Hell 16:45 Rodney and the Titans 16:45 hah 16:45 Josie and the Housecats 16:45 juliette lewis and the licks 16:46 The Oracle and the Stone Centaurs 16:46 oh those are not real band names 16:46 Awww can't even pick up the Wand of Orcus 16:46 his demon buddies can though :P 16:46 no one can, afaik 16:46 <@based> Orcus and the Death Wands 16:46 Guess I'll rebury it 16:46 nice @based! 16:47 bleh wielding werebane should stop werecreatures from summoning 16:47 aren't they always in human form? 16:47 with werebane 16:48 no... 16:48 Rock Me Asmodeus 16:48 that's with protection from shape changers 16:48 @based not sure I'd want to be a Death Wand 16:48 seems demeaning 16:49 I bet they have cool costumes though 16:49 !ping 16:49 stenno: Pong! 16:49 <@based> and in xnh they get to hoard all the blessed charging scrolls groupies 16:50 <{Demo}> it might snow tonight!!! it hasnt really properly snowed in like a couple years here 16:50 I bet they get issued Platinum Yendorian Express Cards 16:50 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Dun Mal Law) obtained the Sokoban prize, on T:2835 16:50 <@based> whenever i see shocking spheres in xnh i get so terrified now 16:51 I feel like I should tone down shock item dmg sooner than later 16:51 aosdict: vulpenfernoes say hi 16:51 Omigod these gremlins are on crack 16:51 die vulpenfernoes die 16:52 killing your customers is rarely a good business model 16:52 krm26 watch out for lava gremlins! 16:52 fook 16:52 <@based> reflectoban.. 16:52 Ooh, that reminds me I need to steal lava gremlins 16:53 whyyy 16:53 granted they'd probably not be AS bad in splice 16:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:11131 16:54 aosdict: wait why wouldn’t they be as bad? Other than the fact that I’m not as evil? :) 16:54 so weird with my keyboard sometimes lol 16:54 splice isn't a giant ball of evil 16:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:6076 16:54 so adding one evil monster is less bad 16:55 i can press shift, i can press 4 16:55 but not 16:55 dollar 16:55 where's arch-gremlins that's what I want to know 16:55 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:56 Another chance at redemption for K2! Here goes the throne... 16:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:56 A curse upon me 16:56 redemption cancelled 16:56 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:27188 16:57 amateurhour: arch-gremlins that can steal intrinsics at any time, multiply in anything, and covetous warp? 16:57 purple g of course 16:57 are you telling me slex doesn't already have those? 16:57 What about tremlins? Gremlins that can come back to life :) 16:57 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Dun Mal Law), 8065 points, T:3131, dissolved in molten lava 16:58 sounds good to me aosdict 16:58 Gremlixes, just like gremlins except each with a randomized symbol so you can't tell what the hell is going on 16:58 Wait, I’ve got it 16:58 gremlins with a 1d4 polymorph equipped item claw attack 16:58 (grawlix pastiche) 16:58 amateurhour: stop playing slex, it's addling your brain and twisting your personality 16:58 * amateurhour bundles 16:58 who came up with lava gremlins again 16:59 I’ve got it: Givelins. Instead of stealing your intrinsics, they give you negative ones. 16:59 riker or K2 16:59 riker wrote the implementation for sure 16:59 no it was elenmirie 16:59 some evil jerk 16:59 AntiGulp: ... that would actually be neat in a really evil way I'd never touch? 16:59 I'm like 95% sure that exists in slex 17:00 silver is not going to corrode, right? 17:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 29140 points, T:11364, killed by a yeti 17:00 <@based> darn glass wand broke falling down soko bole 17:00 <@based> soko hole* 17:00 Neko-chan: In xnethack it will, in splice, it will not (I think) 17:00 silver corrodes in xnethack 17:00 glass and crystal wands spawning on soko holes is pure BS 17:00 happened to me like 10 times during tnnt 17:01 was the no autopickup on holes thing an intentional change? 17:01 <@based> i hope it wasnt poly wand... 17:01 like what are you even meant to do? autopickup no longer works on soko holes 17:01 teleport it? 17:01 I don't think it was aosdict, but never checked 17:01 grappling hook 17:01 Wait, auto no longer works on soko holes? Dang 17:01 <@luxidream> bury it in the hole and dig it up 17:01 <@based> big brain tactics.. 17:01 you have to use a pickaxe though, not wand of digging 17:01 <@based> im 7 int smol brain barb 17:01 spawn a gelatinous cube and push it in the hole!!! 17:02 Neko-chan wins the 200 IQ idea contest 17:02 <@based> finally able to do sokoban with very little looking at the wiki 17:02 <@based> int :7 -> 8 17:02 nice 17:03 \o/ 17:03 woot! 17:03 play slex as sokosolver :^) 17:03 Time for all the sokoban variant levels! 17:03 amateurhour: Didn’t you actually try that at one point? 17:03 yeah, in fact I'm doing it again now 17:04 …why? 17:04 it's a hybrid race so you can do whatever race you'd usually pick plus that 17:04 because I like soko puzzles 17:04 fair enough lol 17:04 somebody has to! 17:04 Here's an idea: just don't spawn items on soko holes 17:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:775 17:04 blasphemy 17:06 * aosdict is now looking into what that would take 17:06 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided master liches dungeon wide on T:59408 17:06 good idea aosdict, full support 17:06 really wish i hadn't killed the lone general store owner... 17:06 also the dnh idea of putting a mimic on top of the soko prize is worth stealing imo as well 17:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:07 YASI: Enormous mimic. It looks like a room, and then the entire room is one giant mimic. 17:07 actually maybe there's another. only explored to Dl10. Had to take out the minetown guy though because he got hit with polymorph and turned into a disenchanter 17:08 anitgulp: I like that ! lol 17:08 bleh I made this +7 silver halbred for my pet troll but he'd rather use a +0 longsword 17:08 I wish I could explain the strategic advantage 17:08 "You drop 7 uncursed boulders. The boulders fall down the ladder." 17:08 uhm.. 17:08 thwomp thwomp thwomp thwomp 17:08 <@based> rust monster touches you : hehe all my gear is mithril jokes on you 17:08 i guess i can put all my scrolls into a sack and toss into the hardware store before I kill that guy... Doesn't work for potions though... 17:08 how do I block Vlad :-) 17:09 mobileuser: I've done that and then completely LOST the boulders 17:09 not at vlads but in dungeon, minetown etc 17:09 heh 17:09 shouldn't they go down the stairs and be there? 17:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:1989 17:09 they were there 17:09 oh ok 17:09 piushing works 17:10 *pushing 17:10 if you read earth it puts a boulder on the stairs 17:10 well I am a giant 17:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7533 17:10 stairs blocked now 17:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:45876 17:11 <@based> reflectooooban 17:11 @based you mean the level was reflected? :) 17:12 i dropped stack of like 20 and they "fell down the stairs" to never be seen again 17:12 i feel ike that's happened a couple of times actually 17:12 hallu is smoky 17:12 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff] 17:12 does blessed hallu still make you trip ? or does it like ask you if you want to ? 17:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu), 4530 points, T:2363, killed by a giant mimic 17:13 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:13 mobi drop a boulder next to the stairs then push them on it 17:14 oh 17:14 kinda blown away that despite there being a bajillion unique polearm objects it's a very unpopular choice for artifact 17:14 not a single one!! 17:14 AntiGulp: that room mimic idea isn't a YASI it's a great idea 17:14 YASI: Armour mimics 17:15 amateurhour: I actually like the idea, but I should have labeled it a SMOP because NetHack is NOT built to do it. 17:15 that pair of speed boots you found? well enjoy them gnawing on ur lil feetsies in like 300 turns 17:15 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest97292 17:15 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 17:15 -!- Guest97292 has quit [Killed (adams.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 17:15 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 17:16 oh that's a really cool idea 17:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:65293 17:18 omg black market portal was in the middle of lava below medusa! I'd give up 17:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:65323 17:19 Hmm, reminds me, didn't find black market or Kathryn and already at tower 17:19 AntiGulp: you should let us loot our pets tbh 17:20 you can't have a little #give without some #loot you know 17:20 Neko-chan: That’s in the feature backlog 17:20 can mmf wear shirts? I just want him to look good 17:20 I made all this nice stuff for my beautiful monster children and they are rejecting it 17:20 krm26 portal to Kathryn's realm is 1 level before Medusa 17:21 there is no black market in evilhack 17:21 Neko-chan: enchant it to sweeten the gift 17:21 Can't forget my ki-rin mount 17:21 it is enchanted ;;; to +5!! 17:21 omg I want a ki-rin, I should wish for one of those maybe 17:23 kathryn is worth doing for the artifact bag, and there's a throne also 10% chance of marker. I like it for the pets too ( wooly mamoths, mastodons, pegasus) 17:23 <@based> @aosdict rubbed my blessed magic lamp and the djinni didnt give me a wish 17:24 yeah so? it happens 17:24 <@based> i know but its sad.. 17:24 it is sad 17:24 <@based> i forgot it had a fail chance 17:24 <@based> doh.. 17:24 you should sue the xnh corporation 17:24 sorry for your loss 17:24 aosdict personally remotes in to the server and tweaks the knobs and dials to screw the players over 17:24 <@based> its okay i have another magic lamp 17:24 <@based> this time it works haha 17:24 amateurhour: who do you think I am, amy? 17:24 GM mode for xnh when? 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:39080 17:25 rebatela: we have an excellent legal team 17:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:46684 17:25 they aways work... wishes aren't guaranteed even in xnh 17:25 <@based> welp crisis averted 17:25 I'm going to add "Magic lamps always summon a djinni" as a true rumor 17:26 are you blessing these lamps based? 17:26 sometimes that helps... 17:26 <@based> yup 17:26 <@based> just blanked some water 17:26 oh. just bad luck that (irl) 17:26 <@based> the first djinni was like " about time " 17:26 AntiGulp: having a hex dragon as a pet is pretty funny as it just arbitrarily picks things up and leaves them embedded in walls lol 17:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5160 17:26 yeah they are instantly murdered when they say that 17:26 aosdict: lmao 17:27 lmao that’s actually great 17:28 well its true 17:28 So I opened up my code for the first time in a month and apparently I was halfway through writing a feature that allows you to pet dogs 17:28 YES 17:29 I wannat pet all the animals what 17:29 some of the false rumors are so random 17:29 i feel like i am still kinda slow when trying to be fast 17:29 this is the most important thing you could add right now 17:29 some are very funny 17:29 anyways I just remembered techniques exist so it's nymph time 17:30 sweet... just tamed an archon. Never had one as a pet before. Heard they are good. 17:30 how do i get this shopkeep to move away from door so i can throw sack in? 17:30 oic, i'm invisible 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:39181 17:30 rebatela: I excised all the rumors that are completely inscrutable 17:30 oh really? 17:31 giants are hard 17:31 fuck 17:31 <@based> okay i shouldve drank the smoky potions first before the rubbing 17:31 <@based> oops 17:31 <@based> YES 17:31 <@based> two smokies, one wish 17:32 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39193 17:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:46730 17:32 nimsumzero: they are very cool! they can wear helmets and gloves and amulets and they aren't afraid of anything (depending on their level) 17:33 awesome.. let's see if he attacks vlad, who he is right next to at the moment... 17:33 AntiGulp: I try not to leave my code unfinished for a while, but I did during tnnt and that caused problems 17:33 archons are so much fun 17:33 aosdict: Mood. The mhit changes are going to be hell 17:33 I like titans a lot too (and they more attainable ) 17:34 oh I don't mean anything vanilla related 17:34 my strategy for merging that is "git merge [next Nth commit from my last merge]" 17:34 do it bite sized chunks 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:27395 17:35 What’s the command for that? 17:35 nope... he was a little afraid of vlad. That's okay though. I'll still give him a treat 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27397 17:35 git merge 3f239d21 17:36 Oh wow... he has a sunsword 17:37 AntiGulp: where that's the hash of the not-vanilla-head but something on vanilla master that you would be merging 17:37 Who 17:37 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 17:37 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest19250 17:37 -!- Guest19250 has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 17:37 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 17:37 the archon? 17:37 Just got out the shower 17:37 did you wish him up? oh i see he spawned in vlad's right? 17:37 thanks for that info Umbire 17:37 Yeah, humanoid A have a chance to get Sunsword when generated 17:37 they won't spawn in gehenom so vlad's is a good place 17:37 yes.. he just destroyed a baddie withit 17:37 nice score 17:38 Archons I think specifically have a 50% chance of it 17:38 And a separate 50% chance of Demonbane? 17:38 I had to cast charm monster about 6 times before it finally worked 17:38 Yeah their MR is solid 17:38 yeah 17:38 But if you can snag one in any way it's worth 17:38 it can be scary when you DON'T have a way to tame 17:38 and they spawn there 17:38 they can't unlock doors though... 17:38 true.. I was taking some serious damage 17:39 lol.. can't unlock doors but can do just about everything else. Interesting 17:39 yeah but seriously that's the strategy if one spawns in one of those vlad closets 17:39 He's got -8 AC too. I'll try to drop some good armor to make it even better 17:40 they can unlock doors, they just don't have any keys 17:40 yeah i don't know if #give works in vanilla yet 17:40 but just drop and it should pick it up 17:40 stenno: fair enough :) 17:41 Omg, so funny. He is rummaging through all the chests and scattering stuff all over the place 17:41 They're just too big for body armor 17:41 But they'll take everything else and their natural AC more than compensates 17:43 lol great i accidentally strim #hardfought for like half an hour :galaxybrain: 17:43 <@based> blessed +6 ring of carrying 17:43 <@based> holy moly 17:44 woooot based 17:44 carry some heavy shit 17:44 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:44 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:44 lol aosdict 'thanks for the info...' 17:44 ? 17:45 when did I say that? 17:45 oh 17:45 Umbire 'i just got out of the shower' 17:46 I think we should all keep each other informed about our shower habits 17:46 What do you want me to say, that's the reason I wasn't in chat for the last 17:46 <@based> hah energy vortex ! i have my ring of shock res equipped 17:46 * Umbire double checks 17:46 <@based> i no longer fear you... 17:47 Half hour or so 17:47 in vanilla that wouldn't protect you @based ;) 17:47 wow.. I guess genetic engineers can poly monsters. He changed my archon into a baby dragon 17:47 <@based> oh dear 17:47 (from item destruction) 17:47 I also showered today, successfully 17:47 but I just tamed a second archon, so all is well 17:47 <@based> duly noted 17:48 argh reflectoban 17:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7176 17:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:65548 17:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 14 points, T:122, killed by a sewer rat 17:49 stenno: i screwed up sokoban lol 17:49 nimsumzero: tame genetic engineer is probably a very interesting way to play 17:49 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 17:49 oof 17:49 it wasn't even a huge screwup but i was trying to be fast adn didnt have time to figure it out 17:49 so i just thought fuck it, i got some rings and wands, go to castle 17:50 it looked like the BoH level, but i think you can't tell by which level anymore? 17:50 IIRC my tnnt games the level matched 17:50 but 17:50 that may have been coincidence 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12459 17:52 ok and so begins the inventory management 17:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10208 17:53 i am basically already ready for the castle 17:53 might speed it up a bit 17:53 hm actually i should still sac for story i guess 17:53 maybe castle + mkot first 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:12631 17:54 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:7767 17:57 so I had this genius idea 17:58 damn found a boh 17:58 where I lead monsters from quest through the portal 17:58 <@based> @stenno niiiiiice 17:58 and then dig a hole that can lead the monsters to the floor below 17:58 AntiGulp: can yuki-onna steal with #monster? 17:58 so I can sac 'em 17:58 Umbire: that's pretty neat! 17:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:8272 17:59 :o 17:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:59 go stenno go 17:59 Neko-chan: Apparently not. I tried in wizmode just now and they can only remove iron balls??? 17:59 interesting... 17:59 huh :s 17:59 Yuki-onna share #monster commands with nymphs, it's sounding like 17:59 Which tracks, just inconvenient 18:00 I am actually thinking back to this time I was reading random scrolls and got punished and when I changed to a nymph, that was all my #monster was 18:00 Stealing is just done as part of their attacks 18:00 Heck. Then I could have stayed a bee girl!! 18:00 So if you're a yuki-onna you just fight as normal 18:00 Umbire: doesn't seem to have a steal attack, has a lost attack instead, not relevant though 18:01 Well nymphs have stealing attacks normally 18:01 I don't know what yuki-onna specifically do 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 4023 points, T:4496, killed by a yeti 18:01 Like this "lost" attack, what is? 18:01 steals your memory of the map, as per a relevant myth 18:02 I might as well just polypile this +7 halbred I made since the troll won't use it 18:02 Ah 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3676 18:02 Not much use in the context of hostiles 18:03 unless you're trying to drop them into traps 18:03 Neko-chan: Troll probably has a better weapon 18:03 ah damnit, centaur sidestepped the hole and refused to jump down it 18:03 clearly. 18:03 now their dead ass body is blocking the view 18:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Mon Swn Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2498 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2861 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2080 points, T:2887, killed by a boulder 18:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:10 YANI: Sitting on a grave has a chance to offend the inhabitant 18:10 golden naga pwned me 18:10 rip shield and a lot of strength 18:10 could have been worse i guess 18:10 :/ 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:48692 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48693 18:11 Umbire: alignment penalty? 18:11 should i just geno h 18:11 heard a mindflayer 18:11 otoh 18:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism by consulting with the priest of Brigit, on T:9353 18:12 aosdict: At minimum 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:48757 18:13 <@based> omfg just found a bag of holding 18:13 <@based> and i wished for one!!!!! 18:13 <@based> lesson learned 18:14 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 18:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:11946 18:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:49990 18:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law), 17421 points, T:11956, poisoned by a killer bee 18:17 <@based> only 1 point of protection from the first chat 18:17 <@based> oof 18:17 F 18:17 ah damn 18:18 hm just remembered, if im gonna geno L anyway, probably do it at castle if not before 18:18 since im playing 366 18:19 mino respects scare monster right? 18:19 -!- tjo has joined #hardfought 18:19 yeah 18:19 ?osm does work, luckily 18:19 arghhghghg 18:20 so stupid when you named a scroll scare monster 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 379 points, T:995, killed by a giant mimic 18:21 in fact its KIRJE 18:21 * tinklebear runs away 18:21 so write scroll labelled KIRJE 18:21 if you didnt formal id 18:22 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:22 you can also type in "sroll called foo" or something IIRC, and it'll write the scroll you called foo 18:22 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 tsurugi of muramasa", on T:46187 18:22 200iq strats from amateurhour 18:22 <@based> dwarf lord had 8000 gold on his corpse.... on a vault level 18:22 2 minos at castle lol 18:22 <@based> very good job dorf lord 18:22 lol based nice 18:22 stenno: scary 18:23 my orc wiz had that 18:23 but she also knows how to cast charm monster :3 18:23 <@based> is there a limit to how man monsters you can have charmed/tamed and the likes 18:23 <@based> like you could have a big army? 18:23 <@based> many* 18:24 i dont know of any limit on total number of pets 18:24 individually of course they may go feral etc. 18:24 and max 8 can travel between levels with you at once 18:25 the more pets I have, the less well I care for them. it seems to be an iron law 18:26 lol 18:27 at some point there will be an accident and you will kill a few 18:28 * tinklebear is still broken hearted about the pet marilith I displaced into water during tnnt 18:28 oof 18:28 She probably crumbled to ashes immediately ;; 18:29 Thank you, Umbire. it was in gehennom, so she drowned in the right place at least 18:29 Neko-chan: https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/commit/c64f6ef4f369505a78121821428af72d466844c0 18:29 everything in its right place 18:30 and a place... for everything 18:30 tinklebear: 3.7 will make that impossible iirc 18:30 * Umbire snaps 18:30 yesterday i woke up sucking a lemon 18:30 (radiohead) 18:30 anyway, castle time i guess 18:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) killed Mother Hydra, on T:33805 18:31 <@based> good luck! 18:31 thanks! 18:31 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:59869 18:31 the minos have been disposed already 18:31 aosdict: curious why the change to pet displacement. is it supposed to be a verisimilitude thing? 18:32 aosdict: ...or just a softening of devteam hearts? 18:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) killed Father Dagon, on T:33811 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:29660 18:33 * tinklebear wonders if this will make it possible for pets to drown you by blocking exits from water 18:34 AntiGulp: yessssssSSSSS 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:29667 18:35 petting dogs is such good value, I am so excited 18:36 [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 19809 points, T:5078, caught herself in her own fireball 18:37 I love this game lmao, I am thrilled 18:38 :D 18:39 man this peaceful monster swapping is sometimes really great, but sometimes you just accidentally displace yourself into a bunch of hostiles 18:39 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Cthulhu, on T:59982 18:40 Wew 18:40 aosdict: Oh, does Fire Brand allow you to cut through a web Sting-style? 18:40 fuck i might die here 18:40 I feel like it should 18:41 fasdfasdfsf 18:41 fucking again wasted marker charges 18:41 every fucking time ffs 18:41 <@based> sadge 18:42 also wasted a turn which is much worse 18:42 no sleep etc 18:42 F 18:42 i have death but missed twice 18:42 FUCK THIE MAN 18:42 death wand 18:42 LOL 18:42 phew 18:42 i will just miss again 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:29965 18:42 dunno if there are charges left 18:42 <@luxidream> $whereis stenno 18:42 try 18:42 <@luxidream> !whereis stenno 18:42 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] stenno [nh370]: (Pri Elf Fem Cha) T:10047 The Dungeons of Doom level: 27 18:42 man fuck this fucking shit 18:42 unless you have something better you can do 18:43 oh i write E 18:43 with marker 18:43 or digging 18:43 is that a guaranteed scare tho 18:43 base MR 0 18:44 E works by monMR now? 18:44 hope they resist based on mr and not on level like in spork 18:44 idek 18:44 @luxidream does it 18:44 im checkinng stuf on wiki 18:44 <@based> random troll revived with Orcrist 18:44 <@based> nearly killed me haha 18:44 <@based> thats wild 18:45 ooh phasing dwarves has probably been fixed https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/13359648dd31931313e1c4f06acc6281d05a5842 18:45 but! 18:45 that doesn't matter right 18:45 lets check onscary 18:45 stenno: wait 18:46 if it has a ranseur or some shit 18:46 any polearm 18:46 it will still attack you from a couple squares away 18:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:46 looks good 18:46 yeah he has a polearm 18:47 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:47 i will try zap him with death 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:49053 18:47 maybe i can pray too 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:49056 18:47 he only has one weapon attack 18:47 shit i was looking at troll 18:47 weapon 3d6 18:48 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 18:48 doesnt matter 18:48 i have 0 luck 18:48 trolls will polearm attack you too 18:48 yeah 18:48 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:48 but only one weapon attack 18:48 one attack speed twelve 18:48 but what weapon 18:48 its the weapon damage plus that 3d6 18:48 hilted polearm 18:48 w/e that is 18:49 huh he has a mace too 18:49 according to msghistory it got to attack more than once? 18:49 <@luxidream> I do what? 18:49 so he needs a turn to switch weapon 18:49 oh yeah weapon 3d6, claw 2d8, bite 2d6 18:49 aoei: i flew into the turret room 18:49 i a only hasted 18:50 but if its ranging you with polearm it obviously can't do all three 18:50 i getchu now 18:50 wtf is hilted polearm 18:50 2d4 18:50 lol 18:50 so 18:51 semiperma with /oDig 18:51 it can still kill you in a turn 18:51 <@luxidream> stenno: marker E or digging E should work 18:51 i have _no_ healing 18:51 <@luxidream> is he standing on the sm? 18:51 2d4 + 3d6 is... ehh 18:51 @luxi yeah i wanna semiperma with /oDig 18:51 @luxi wrong turret 18:51 i have to write ?oSM again 18:51 <@luxidream> oh gotcha 18:51 <@luxidream> you shouldn't die in one turn 18:52 <@luxidream> you have actual ac so 18:52 he makes 14 damage on average 18:52 so 7 after ac 18:52 [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 3794 points, T:2196, caught herself in her own fireball 18:52 man what a fucking beast 18:53 its a shame you didnt manage to grab a bugle off one of the sergeants 18:53 why? 18:53 does bugle scare monster? 18:53 that'd work to scare it too 18:53 ph! 18:53 oh! 18:53 didnt even know that 18:53 <@luxidream> what is olog-hai mr 18:53 0 lux 18:53 <@luxidream> I feel like it's higher than 0 18:53 0 18:53 i was surprised too 18:53 <@luxidream> oh nice 18:53 man i don't want to make my next move lol 18:53 <@luxidream> usually "king" monsters have higher mr 18:53 he's not blind or confused 18:53 <@luxidream> like ogre king 18:53 i was sure they bumped it to 10 or 20 18:53 yeah 18:54 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 18:54 wiki says 0 anyway 18:54 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:60649 18:54 i wanna resume my game but i wanna see how this situation resolves now lol 18:54 <@luxidream> he'll be fine 18:54 stenno will be fine 18:54 yes 18:54 k i will /oDig 18:54 but i still wanna see lol 18:55 hmm so 18:55 should i write charging 18:55 and ?oSM 18:55 probably don't have any blank scrolls 18:55 did you E yet 18:55 yes 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:30213 18:56 ah does the "no objects here" pop up after the engraving is read 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:30213 18:56 that confused me lol 18:56 could uncursed-genocide him 18:56 but the green @ is right on his heels 18:56 tinklebear: not displacing pets into water came as part of a PR I made for peaceful displacement 18:56 seems a bit overkill for this situation tbh 18:56 they also won't displace into known traps 18:56 <@based> a club named Dudley's Club 18:56 i will go XL 14 directly after castle and do quest 18:57 you can write ?oSM or even move on and off your E-square to zap death at him 18:57 you have loads of options 18:57 just realized i don't have blanked scrolls 18:57 no blanking means? 18:57 wasted my 2 scrolls by writing 'scare monster' instead of 'kirje' 18:57 i have /oCancel but 18:57 .. thats perfect! 18:57 can't really use it now 18:57 this is why i love cancel 18:57 er no 18:58 i don't want to zap cancel at self 18:58 also that smudges E 18:58 duh move off E square 18:58 but first wait til olog moves away bit 18:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:54090 18:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:54091 18:58 you can also try to zap daeth at him when you're off the E square 18:59 if youre on it i think it'll say hypocrite and erase the engraving 18:59 tho they changed some of that 366->370 maybe? i cant remember all the deets 18:59 no water potions either man 18:59 aosdict: cool. will be interesting to see the consequences. 18:59 ooops 18:59 stenno: oops what? 18:59 what happened? 18:59 didn't want to spend a turn hier 18:59 here 19:00 but its ok 19:00 he is fleeing in the direction of the green @ now 19:00 perfect 19:00 step off square zap death 19:00 i will miss 19:00 then do your cancellation etc 19:00 then step back on to E or zap again 19:00 move 'n' and zap 19:00 the green @ will attack me then 19:00 gotta wait for them lining up 19:01 wait they are lined up 19:01 nah move down and right 19:01 then zap, if miss dig E again 19:01 fuck 19:01 oh ffs 19:01 it moved wrong way 19:01 E again 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:50884 19:01 dont need to do taht so soon 19:01 move right 19:01 zap death if they line up 19:02 stenno: bankshot? 19:02 think i get my scrolls etc .now 19:02 what are snow boots? what's your speed? 19:02 nope 19:02 kick or ww 19:02 k 19:03 i assume the olog-hai battles with the seargant now 19:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:34607 19:03 when the olog is dead, teh sergeant will attack me 19:03 ah yeah you're conflicting 19:03 u got this stenno 19:04 i zap death now 19:04 might be 0:0 19:04 lol boulder fort yourself 19:04 if yes i write E 19:04 kay 19:04 can't he go past it with his eapon? 19:05 0 luck 19:05 empty or missed? 19:05 hit 19:05 wooot 19:05 yeah but now there's the sargeant with a long sord 19:05 try again for lieutenant 19:05 do you have mnoney 19:05 yayyy 19:05 yeh 19:05 ok u b fine 19:05 activated E doesn't work 19:05 anymore 19:06 gonna close irc to not get distracted, begin strim 19:06 ey don'nt leave me alone here 19:06 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed avalon", on T:47411 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Hum Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1871 19:08 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:55478 19:08 <@luxidream> aoei you need music for your stream 19:08 phew 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:50943 19:08 <@luxidream> also actually look at chat 19:09 wow chest is missing 19:09 * AntiGulp smashes that refresh button 19:10 anyway i have some tools now 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:51091 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:3870 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:51163 19:15 You finish eating the Olog-hai corpse. 19:15 asserting dominance here 19:15 and i guess this is the wow chest 19:15 no, chest was open and there was slow monster in it 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:51178 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:51178 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:51178 19:16 <@based> found a random luckstone while digging through a level to avoid a swamp 19:16 aaaands its 0:3 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:51179 19:16 aoei: castle wow secured, 0:3 19:16 mkot time 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 480382 points, T:30785, killed by the Wizard of Yendor 19:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed master key of thievery", on T:10513 19:17 @based I wonder how often those happen and just get ignored / never discovered 19:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:10515 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful hill giant, on T:51211 19:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:10523 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap (5 times), on T:51250 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:51251 19:21 <@based> invisible L 19:21 <@based> uh oh 19:21 <@based> learned my lesson last time, i have a ring of sustain ability to avoid that pesky strength drain 19:22 <@based> BONKEd 19:22 <@based> take that Lich 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4365 19:24 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61443 19:25 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:26 hell yeah, speed boots from the armory 19:26 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61447 19:26 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61448 19:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:952 19:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 227 points, T:962, killed by a small mimic 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:17256 19:29 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) wished for "Blessed magic marker named cockatrice yellow", on T:52539 19:33 cockatrice yellow lmao 19:35 I mean it probably looks better than Nevanda's cockatrices 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:51557 19:36 (which aren't bad, the aim was probably "ugly and wretched" and it succeeds) 19:37 YANI: When you read a marker, instead of a single fixed string, it gives a monster based pigment 19:38 aosdict: That rules 19:38 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided electric eels dungeon wide on T:61586 19:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1493 19:40 @v?cockatrice 19:40 aww, no pinobot? 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2443222 points, T:51618, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/nethack/dumplog/1607177460.nh.html 19:41 grats elron 19:41 GG! 19:41 <@based> congrats!! 19:43 minesflayer aaaagh 19:43 huh 19:43 oh, not 3.7 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 208 points, T:445, killed by a gnome lord 19:44 er 19:44 i thought minesflayer aren't a thing anymore in 3.6 19:44 3.7 19:45 <@based> hope i dont have to wish for poly wand 19:45 <@based> so much magical gear to polypile 19:46 based: ...into +3 ring mails and such? 19:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Swn Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:35463 19:47 AntiGulp: If I deliberately forget my skills with blessed amnesia I can just reallocate them immediately, yes? 19:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4275 19:47 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "greased fireproof holy historic very thoroughly blessed magic harp named cupid lent me this and told me it would make me loveable", on T:61602 19:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law) was given Jinja Naginata, on T:2645 19:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4291 19:48 …I forget? It might be on the 3.7 page? 19:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:68405 19:51 !who 19:51 tinklebear: [hdf-us] nimsumzero [dyn] eitbo [tnnt] cilantro [sp] BoisterousSloth [evil] fadein [nh370] lunatunez [nh370] Qwesti [nh370] hothraxxa [un] nekochan [spl] sflicht [spl] malor [dnh] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] p0werm0de [nh370] | [hdf-au] Mishka [nh370] 19:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2126 points, T:4583, killed by a little dog 19:51 oh 3.7 works that way too? 19:53 Hm? 19:53 someone wizmode 19:53 Oh, yeah 19:53 I think that's a thing you can do 19:53 okay the source says that if it's blessed the allspells flag isn't hit, so it doesn't make you forget spells 19:53 Assuming that's true, 3.7 probably pulled those changes directly from what you're thinking of Neko 19:54 so I'm just gonna pope it off 19:54 no Neko-chan don't 19:54 really? 19:54 if it's blessed it seems fine. 19:54 maybe I am reading this wrong 19:54 you lose skill *practice* points, so you need to reexercise to get back up to where it can be enhanced 19:54 oh 19:54 OH 19:55 yo that's so gross 19:55 just attempted in wizmode 19:55 yikes 19:55 <@based> that is kinda sad 19:55 is it all of them? all your skills? 19:55 or some percent 19:55 i wrote a reddit article about it 19:55 I suppose if you have enough skills enhanced and amnesia doesn't hit all of them then you might get lucky? 19:55 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/fjj5ab/nethack_37_will_revamp_amnesia_allowing_for/ 19:56 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4306 19:56 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4395 19:57 <@based> all scrolls Id'd except... genocide 19:57 <@based> argh 19:57 ok so if I forget my skill I am not concerned about, it's nbd, but if I forget my actually well allocated skills it could be a huge pain, namely riding 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] fadein (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2002 19:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:79, killed by a water moccasin 20:03 based: do you have marker? how is your luck? are you a wizard? 20:03 <@based> not a wizard, and no marker, luck is maxed out. only two wishes at the castle (xnethack) 20:03 <@based> im definitely wishing for a marker, not sure about the other wish 20:04 <@based> ill spam some create monster wands an scrolls for a death drop maybe 20:04 with max luck there's not-bad chance of writing unknown scrolls (better if wizard) 20:05 ...but of course risk of wasted ink 20:05 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:05 actually as non-wiz its rather bad 20:05 in tnnt I got geno on first try! 20:05 but yeah, I figured that was fortunate 20:05 ~30% iirc 20:06 so, two tries is better odds than flipping one coin 20:06 no, slightly less 20:07 4/9 20:07 lol. I'm so bad at this 20:08 hm or 20:08 maybe you are right 20:09 its 1 - (2/3)^2 right 20:09 so 5/9 20:09 <@based> at least my ring economy is great, free action, conflict, levi, slow digestion 20:09 (assuming 33% max change) 20:10 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:61854 20:10 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) wished for "blessed magic marker named Yendorian Mystery Color Contest", on T:52655 20:10 ah, right. it's a two-thirds chance of fail each try. so chance of fail *both* times is 0.66 * 0.66 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3120 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 24 points, T:41, killed by a fox 20:11 <@based> i swear, that glass wand that shattered in sokoban was polymorph lmao 20:12 anyways, I was dreading a lot of wasted ink once last month, and it turned out okay after all 20:13 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:61899 20:13 tried to go up against a crystal ice golem at lvl 14... Took me down to 4hp in 1 hit! 20:13 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed historic thoroughly greased partly eaten blank figurine of a woodchuck named carlos the woodchuck leader of the popular front for the liberation of yendor", on T:61902 20:13 bouquet: ouch 20:14 Crystal ice golems are scary even for a level 30 wizard 20:14 the sinking feeling of seeing HP counter go dark grey 20:14 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "", on T:61904 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 802 points, T:2647, killed by a pony 20:15 Wait you lose the practice points too? 20:15 fuck 20:15 * Umbire is backscrolling 20:15 Hi Andrio 20:15 I had a cursed scroll of tele handy because I knew those things were tough. 20:15 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law), 564217 points, T:61905, escaped 20:15 * tinklebear bows to zen master Andrio 20:16 !lastgame hothraxxa 20:16 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/unnethack/dumplog/1606920867.un.txt.html 20:16 F 20:16 Hi Umbire and tinklebear. 20:16 <@based> @hothraxxa rip 20:16 inot sure what happened there. i checked the high priest but not the altar 20:16 oops 20:17 nou 20:17 and empty wish before? 20:18 testing whether the unnethack wand could be wrested 20:18 You have better odds if it's blessed. 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 143 points, T:394, killed by a falling rock 20:19 looking at the dumplog it is definitely a bad idea to assume the high priest owns the altar 20:19 why is the lawful high priestess at the neutral(?) temple? 20:19 turns out the chaotic high priest was there too 20:19 <@luxidream> is this bhaak epic trolling? 20:19 <@luxidream> what's going on 20:19 oh 20:19 sounds like it 20:20 or maybe there are 3 for each lol 20:20 maybe. i should have checked the altar but i've never had to do that in any other variant 20:20 wat 20:20 Maybe 20:20 <@luxidream> wow, maybe me obsessively nearlooking the altar isn't unfounded after all 😬 20:20 it would have been easy to go to the correct altar 20:20 high priests tending each others' altars 20:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a dwarf corpse on an altar of Blind Io, on T:4094 20:21 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:8004 20:21 ekumene achieved 20:22 so weird that 3.7 has ekumene altar rooms too now 20:23 wow, thanks Lugh! 20:23 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8756 20:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1120 points, T:4874, killed by a wand 20:26 * Andrio boops luxidream. 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] fadein (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3411 20:28 <@luxidream> is booped 20:29 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 20:30 <@luxidream> I'm not sure what that was for 20:30 <@luxidream> should I boop back 20:30 <@based> always gotta boop 20:31 <@luxidream> boops Andrio 20:31 Sure 20:32 lol 20:32 stenno: nice 20:33 i should probs resume this game in a minute if i want some chance of winning lol 20:33 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:36 You asked how I made the floating eye probability chart; it was done with Excel by getting a list of each monster with their difficulty, alignment and generation weight, and calculating the floating eye's weight divided by the sum of all weights up to each difficulty level 20:37 bzzp i go to bed now though 20:37 good luck ith your speedrun 20:37 tomorrow is monday 20:37 <@luxidream> Thanks 20:37 <@luxidream> maybe I'll do something similar for archons 20:38 @luxidream jilles and i did it yesterday 20:38 <@luxidream> Oh? what was the result 20:38 its only relevant when sanctum is in 52 20:39 then with level 16 you are more likely to spawn archon on fire 20:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] sohlman (Nob Inc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:4, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:39 <@luxidream> I see 20:39 <@luxidream> What about higher levels? 20:40 what do you mean with level here 20:40 <@luxidream> 18, 20, 22 20:40 <@luxidream> how much does the archon frequency actually increase 20:40 ah, no idea 20:40 its pretty triviaal to calculate after all though 20:41 The only randomly generated monster with higher difficulty than Archons is arch-liches 20:41 which only generate in Gehennom 20:41 billybob, what a target demographic 20:42 but Archons can show up in Vlad's tower too. 20:42 Andrio: but higher XL lets weaker monsters fall out of the pool 20:42 less monster in pool -> higher chance for archon 20:42 also i found out that a single dust vortex generates on fire 20:43 which is hilarious because its not fire resistant 20:43 aren't arch-liches also on the nasties list? 20:43 from the .des file 20:43 It doesn't actually 20:43 that depends only on the level difficulty 20:43 Andrio: not on the planes. 20:43 ah 20:43 yes they are, they're summoned as nasties 20:44 indeed 20:44 nasties summoning nasties summoning nasties.. 20:44 ah, but "Summoned spellcasters will have a lower difficulty than the caster." so they aren't summoned as nasties often 20:44 I farmed nasties once but I don't recall the details 20:44 summonstorm mis not possible anymore 20:44 yeh 20:45 <@luxidream> Andrio, would you be okay with sharing your excel sheet? 20:45 it was possible 20:45 IIRC only the Wizard can summon Archons, and only once per cast 20:45 and not if he summons an arch-lich 20:46 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/785321195549491211/NetHack_floating_eyes.xlsx 20:46 <@luxidream> 😍 20:46 does that include both random and initial generation? 20:46 (in 3.7) 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4238 20:46 Pretty sure they use the same distribution, barring special levels 20:47 Even most special levels are the same. The only exceptions are Gehennom/non-Gehennom restrictions and the Quest. 20:47 * Umbire plays Benny Hill while luring monsters from the quest 20:48 I think unnethack has customized monster gen on special levels? 20:48 what're you luring?~ 20:48 It's Tourist, so just standard spawns 20:48 could a pet dwarf potentially steal from a black-market sshop for me do you think? 20:48 Then I get them to drop down a hole I dug and land on the floor under it so I can sac them 20:48 bouquet, yes; it's just that pets can't get in through the portal or by branchporting 20:48 I wanna say potentially but really idk 20:48 Ah yeah that 20:48 See I knew there was a wrinkle like that 20:49 for sure, but there's two figurines in here already. A dwarf and a tengu. 20:49 ah, nice. 20:49 don't think I can train apport with a dwarf. I can just hope. 20:49 thinking emoji... 20:49 I tried to kill One-Eyed Sam with a peaceful purple worm once 20:50 I ended up giving up and just stealing her sword 20:50 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/785322257987534898/Screenshot_20201206-204905.png 20:50 behold 20:50 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/785322258256101446/Screenshot_20201206-204928.png 20:50 EPI: Thiefbane always generates cursed 20:50 (with base graphics for the tile-allergic) 20:50 I got the nicely arranged versino of the black market. Didn't realize the massive credit I built up in the jeweler's shop was only for THAT shop. There's a pile of poly wands I want in another shop :( 20:50 Nice spider nest 20:51 sick, tele wand put me right next to the hole 20:51 now we wait 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law), 10163 points, T:4615, killed by a vampire lord 20:51 Ow 20:51 Yikes... Mines' End? 20:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:19037 20:52 !lastgame samiam 20:52 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/samiam/nethack/dumplog/1607278907.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/samiam/nethack/dumplog/1582658194.nh.html 20:52 Affirmative 20:53 and now these asshole spiders are stepping "around" the hole 20:53 THIS IS YOUR HOME 20:53 ARE YOU TOO GOOD FOR YOUR HOME 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5363 points, T:1456, killed by a soldier ant 20:54 there we go 20:54 now the next batch for the hole 20:54 displacement somehow makes this easier 20:54 <@based> became deeply intimate with Archons in the plane of fire last ascension 20:54 <@based> gazing and nasting me 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:58319 20:55 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56 that sounds indecent 20:56 unholy almost 20:57 !pom 20:57 nabru: The moon is at last quarter; new moon in 7 days. 20:57 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 20:58 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:11476 20:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4409 20:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4487 21:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 darts on an altar, on T:4586 21:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:4881 21:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2412 points, T:5408, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 181 points, T:326, killed by a gecko 21:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10 Sacs done 21:10 Now for luring the monsters out of that graveyard 21:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 42 points, T:388, killed by a falling rock 21:16 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 39271 points, T:13727, exterminated by a forest centaur, while sleeping 21:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:58818 21:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:59094 21:21 stupid perseus didn't have reflection shield but i dont wanna wish for "oR lol :c 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 901 points, T:1278, killed by a rothe 21:23 sweet! The unicorn swiped all my gems back for me! 21:23 aoei you shouldn’t have gotten me into turn speedrunning, this is addicting lmao 21:24 lol 21:25 find any polykits yet+ 21:25 ? 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 50 points, T:42, killed by a boiling potion 21:26 AntiGulp: are you going for a minimal turncount run? 21:27 * aoei is currently trying and failing to realtime speedrun lol 21:27 if it's under 6 hours it's a speed run in my book 21:27 bouquet: Yeah, aoei got me into it and I’m trying min turncount! It’s fun. 21:28 i managed to do 4hs nh343 valk one time 21:28 ages ago tho 21:29 After, what, 35 years of playing I realize I've never branchported with a pet. Does it come along if adjacent? 21:29 -!- spicycat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29 Can't give up Pegasus 21:29 yes 21:30 aoei: No, but I just got a godlike setup. Ring of polycontrol, spellbook of jumping, magic marker (0:92), leather drum, blindfold. 21:30 sounds pretty sweet 21:30 dip your book and write detect monsters for finding shops 21:30 and if that doesn't take many charges try for sleep too maybe 21:33 <@luxidream> antigulp: lacks tonal 21:33 <@luxidream> might be hard to do castle 21:33 oh yeh 21:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3274 21:34 might be an issue 21:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3287 21:34 Aw crap, you’re right. I forgot drum doesn’t count as tonal. 21:35 And luring basically complete, got two wraiths out of the deal 21:35 do you really need a tonal instrument for castle if you have a polykit? 21:35 (so far) 21:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:3456 21:35 not necessarily Neko-chan but its still easier with tonal, and AntiGulp doesn't have a polykit yet 21:35 <@luxidream> you don't have a polykit yet 21:36 I’m on floor 3, I’ve got time 21:36 ^ 21:36 yeah you might also find a WoW :D 21:36 id'd ring of poly control is like, 40% of the way there 21:36 there we go, XL15, most skilled in two weapon 21:36 k i should stop being a wuss and play my game 21:36 now I have option selects with this reflective shield 21:37 if i have to wish for an amulet of reflection i will, its fine 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:1131 21:37 time for another game of "GO DOWN THE FUCKING HOLE" 21:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] sohlman (Hea Inc Fem Neu), 6485 points, T:2223, killed by a parrot, while fainted from lack of food 21:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2715 points, T:3842, killed by an Uruk-hai 21:40 just realizing I'll probably be lucky to generate another artifact much less a good one 21:40 already have Frost Blade and Mjolnir, Fire Brand is waiting in the bones 21:42 and as I say that I get Ogresmasher on my next sac 21:42 [oR doesn't count as magical armour for poly right? 21:42 guess that'll show me 21:42 <@luxidream> it does 21:42 ah ffs 21:42 <@luxidream> did you not check medusa lol 21:42 i thought it was a special case 21:42 i did 21:42 no [oR 21:42 just a sack 21:42 <@luxidream> oh rip 21:43 whatever i'll just wish for "oR then 21:43 <@luxidream> welp just gotta roll with it 21:43 <@luxidream> keep playing! 21:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:60407 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1136 points, T:1422, killed by an invisible gnome 21:48 z - an uncursed wand of wishing (0:3) (unpaid, 16675 zorkmids). 21:48 NICE 21:48 ty one eyed sam 21:48 Got a spare 17,000 zm? 21:49 I do 21:49 Got 74k I'm not gonna take with me, I'll get a mailer daemon to ferry it over as soon as K2 patches it in 21:49 yup :3 21:49 krm26: tyvm lol 21:51 Normally I just make a bunch of baby dragons and build up like 200k credit, but much like real life I had to totally change my strategy when I accidentally changed genders early in the game 21:51 so now I can't lay eggs lol 21:52 oh frick its a rope golem 21:53 (no death drop because it's just enough to hang you) 21:53 YANI/YASI: Rope golems should drop at least one iron hook 21:54 Avast! 21:55 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 21:55 * tinklebear does not actually know what 'avast' means 21:56 if i filled in all teh trapdoors do i need controlled levprot to enter the valley :/ 21:56 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 21:56 Variant/version? 21:56 366 21:56 does unnethack have the feature where you can identify the enchantment on a ring of increase damage by wearing it and attacking a certain number of turns? 21:56 You should be able to dig through 21:56 * Umbire ponders 21:57 aoei I think you can dig. I did it in a 3.6.? version not too long ago 21:57 ye 21:57 bouquet: perhaps only in the maze at hte back? 21:57 digging inside thea ctual castl eidn't work 21:57 tried to re-dig one of the holes 21:57 aoei, dig through the filled trap doors 21:57 no, where the holes originally were 21:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3047 21:57 hm 21:57 maybe i got hte wrong spot 21:57 or level teleport past. 21:58 oh yea 21:58 that worked 21:58 nice 21:58 Nice 21:58 i got the wrong spot is all 22:00 Hmmmm, I need to get this rope golem off me asap. I think I can elbereth maybe? 22:00 Yes. 22:01 or scare it by other means. 22:02 Go, leather drum, save me 22:02 wooo 22:02 wtf is up with gain ability in un? 10 blessed potions have only increased str! 22:02 It's nerfed, yeah 22:03 IIRC blessed potions are more likely to increase an attribute if you're at the cap for others. 22:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "greased magic marker", on T:61085 22:04 <@based> 0:84 22:04 <@based> my highest yet 22:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class U, on T:61089 22:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class z, on T:61091 22:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class e, on T:61092 22:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class v, on T:61095 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1820 points, T:1421, killed by a blast of frost 22:07 :/ 22:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:61211 22:08 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2999 22:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4887 22:09 F 22:11 my int is only 9 :( 22:11 Could really use a boost there 22:11 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3283 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2257 22:12 purposefully didn't geno mindflayers so I could eat them. Fortunately, my MMM does a great job improving ranged attacks. 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2390 points, T:2320, killed by a quasit 22:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:21004 22:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:61687 22:17 [hdf-us] [fh] sohlman (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 29183 points, T:665, killed by a killer bee 22:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2988 points, T:6280, killed by a soldier ant 22:20 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Gno Mal Neu), 2934 points, T:3984, offed by a gold golem 22:21 POLYKIT 22:23 Hmmmm, I need a form that can kill this shopkeeper, then high-tail it to the castle. Master mind flayer? 22:25 Or wait, maybe titan, then I’ll be fast 22:27 AntiGulp: You plan to walk the entire way to Castle from... dlvl 5? 22:28 (no snark, just wondering if I understand.) 22:28 AntiGulp: nevermind; I see you've already picked a form 22:28 tinklebear: I’m doing a minimum turncount run! So I won’t be goingg 100% directly there, but it’ll be close 22:29 Oh, cool. Good luck! 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 404 points, T:898, killed by a small mimic 22:29 Thanks! :D 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:75, killed by a falling rock 22:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 22:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 22:31 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:104 22:32 !tell amateurhour uhh that sounds bad and shouldn't happen. if you get a crash, please always ask K2 or Tangles whether there is a core dump that they can extract a backtrace from! otherwise I can only guess as to what happened 22:32 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-12-06 16:04 EST: just had a slex game crash at starting a new game 22:32 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 22:32 weeee throne wish at quest 22:32 might wish for telecontrol ring 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 144 points, T:204, killed by a gnome lord 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1499 22:33 !tell K2 apparently amateurhour has had a crash in slex or something, game shouldn't be in need of recovery but if there is a recent core dump (from early Dec 7 or late Dec 6, probably) I'd be interested in the backtrace ;) 22:33 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 22:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1779 points, T:3528, killed by a wolf 22:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:62620 22:36 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Gno Mal Neu), 1284 points, T:1725, taken down by a myconid warrior 22:38 [hdf-us] [un] sohlman (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 483 points, T:615, killed by a falling rock 22:38 AntiGulp: do you attack everything in a low-turn run? Or is there a lot of running away? 22:39 <@based> speed boots from the polypile 22:39 <@based> feelsgood 22:39 bouquet: You should ask aoei. I’m a total amateur at this. I’m trying to avoid fighting whenever possible though 22:41 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 22:42 I just hit the castle 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:38258 22:43 how are you a mindflayer? Selfpoly or is that a playable class and I missed it? 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 18647 points, T:2066, killed by an invisible ogre king 22:43 how *were* you a mindflayer :) 22:43 RIP AntiGulp. 22:43 !lastgame antigulp 22:43 AntiGulp: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/nethack/dumplog/1607310459.nh.html 22:44 I totally missed the “you return to elven form” message :( 22:44 lol. 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kokushu, on T:38323 22:44 AntiGulp: That was a good watch! 22:44 I was a mindflayer because I startscummed for a ring of poly control, then killed a shopkeeper for a wand of polymorph. 22:45 tinklebear: Thanks! That was the farthest I’ve gotten while going for min turns! 22:45 That was fun 22:46 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Arc Chn Fem Law), 731 points, T:1971, mowed down by a pony 22:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:22097 22:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22099 22:50 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Car Elf Fem Neu), 114 points, T:824, killed by consuming orcish war juice 22:54 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:713 22:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:1698 22:58 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:1497 22:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 23:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:63210 23:05 -!- tonehack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2232 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5273 points, T:2442, killed by a vampire 23:07 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) wished for "Blessed greased fixed amulet of reflection", on T:55651 23:07 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:07 lol i summoned yeenoghu cuz i forgot about the race thing 23:10 hopefully he's peaceful 23:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Reaver, on T:63914 23:10 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) had Doomblade bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:2551 23:13 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3349 points, T:3330, killed by a gold golem 23:13 Neko-chan: yeah but it was annoying and unnecessary of me to do that 23:13 yes that is true 23:13 I hate it when that happens honestly 23:13 and now im wasting time killing kops for no good reason 23:14 i should get back to gehennom 23:14 oh wait what it summoned kops? 23:14 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Gno Mal Neu), 1716 points, T:2939, offed by a white unicorn 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3225 23:17 nah that was from another thing 23:17 when i robbed a shop 23:19 aoei is he friendly? 23:19 yes 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Cuchullain (Fig Mal), 312 points, T:607, orc 23:20 <@based> only 26 ac going into gehennom.. 23:21 -26? That’s not too bad, right? 23:21 are you kidding thats plenty 23:21 you can ascend with that no problem 23:21 <@based> im a big scaredy cat 23:21 XD 23:21 nothing worse that -40 for me! 23:21 …I generally am lucky to get -20 23:21 I need armored diapers to go into gahennom 23:21 I play really reckless 23:22 <@based> my roomate added regex for the UI so my AC blinks and does different colors at different levels too 23:22 AntiGulp: big same lol 23:22 <@based> kinda unecessary but it looks nice 23:22 Nice, based! Status highlighting regexes are fun. 23:22 based is that in your config or something specific to the terminal? 23:23 <@based> both 23:23 which user are you? I want to check out your config 23:23 <@based> im Jilvane on hardfought US 23:23 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/785360848662953984/unknown.png 23:23 <@based> this is what my roomate set up for me 23:23 <@based> she likes purple a lot 23:24 oy veh! That's... really purple. 23:25 Oh my god there’s so much purple! 23:25 I love the font 23:25 <@based> yeah... she's the brain of the operation, i just hopped on and have so much fun playing nethack 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Cuchullain (Fig Mal), 116 points, T:69, imp 23:26 My partner looked over my shoulder and says that the colors are excellent 23:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 17589 points, T:5051, killed by a vampire bat 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:39873 23:27 C 23:27 hoops 23:27 Choops! 23:28 <@based> splicehack was the other variant i was trying 23:28 https://i.imgur.com/aPavbhk.png more traditional. 23:28 <@based> got several decent runs but i got cut down by things i had no idea about 23:28 <@based> vintage 23:28 splice is crazy. Latest thing to catch me off guard was "hellfire". Regular fire resist doesn't help. 23:29 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4298 23:29 bouquet: That’s nerfed mephisto, too. Un-nerfed mephisto was… uh… 23:29 Well, let me put it this way. Un-nerfed mephisto was ported to slex 23:29 is AntiGulp still here...? Let me tell you about this time on Astral... 23:30 :( 23:30 haha! 23:30 good times. 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2374 points, T:4051, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:31 as soon as I get my c skills back to normal I'm totally going to revamp #techniques. Only 4 more years to go! 23:33 finally got a cursed ring removed. time to test another one! 23:33 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) wished for "blessed magic marker named archlich purple", on T:56012 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1377 points, T:2019, killed by a dwarf 23:34 * tinklebear feels a little cheated because the next ring was non-cursed 23:35 will nurses nurse dance me if I'm riding? 23:36 As long as you’re naked, I think nurses will dance you? 23:37 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:5135 23:37 hmmmm 23:37 also it's weird that this crystal plate mail won't change material. Maybe because there is still a unique 'crystal plate mail' item? 23:37 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Ticonderoga #2", on T:61705 23:38 Neko-chan: Huh, you’re right. I should change that in the future. 23:40 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 23:40 yeah, I think you did something about this for dwarvish/elvish scale mail as well I think 23:42 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:5847 23:44 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 78 points, T:376, killed by a coyote 23:49 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:6614 23:50 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered their faithful transmuter, on T:56287 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Cuchullain (Fig Mal), 74 points, T:141, imp 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 358 points, T:1004, killed by a brown mold 23:56 AntiGulp: i think for realtime speedrunning i really have my work cut out for myself to get better or even close to good lol 23:56 i have so many bad rl-timewasting habits 23:57 It seems hard as hell. Respect for doing it! 23:57 lol well i made a few attempts and seem overall no faster than before 23:58 maybe if i stay determined over many many attempts 23:58 i can improve 23:58 lol 23:59 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought