00:01 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:03 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:06 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5861 00:07 huh. two luckstones on mines end in splicehack. weird. 00:07 -!- Jes98 has left #hardfought 00:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:12492 00:10 happens sometimes 00:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3252 00:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3289 00:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3289 00:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3413 00:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:16 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 00:19 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:23 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:39828 00:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2713 points, T:4338, killed by a soldier ant 00:27 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:8015 00:34 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:64790 00:38 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:9923 00:41 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 22805 points, T:10226, sent to the next life by a deep one, while praying 00:41 l /quit 00:41 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 43210 points, T:20578, killed by a warhorse 00:43 -!- nimsumzero has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:27352 00:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4084 00:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4084 00:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Burglar, on T:27685 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:41367 00:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:01 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:4649 01:02 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:65335 01:08 OK, so, this archeologist ran into an arch-lich below minetown and by some miracle survived (being polymorphed into an ice vortex may have helped) 01:09 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:10 I've been running back and forth getting them into the best spot possible to go on the quest since the orb of detection confers magic resistance 01:10 in and out of the general store in minetown 01:10 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 01:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 01:11 on my umpteenth visit, I step one square away from the spot where I dump all my stuff to price id and sell junk 01:11 You see here a gray stone (for sale, 80 zorkmids). 01:16 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:65748 01:17 -!- loli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:17 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 01:23 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 01:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3200 points, T:5622, killed by a werewolf 01:28 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed Mephisto, on T:65961 01:28 wtf I love jousting 01:28 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:28 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:65964 01:29 Now joust Demogorgon 01:29 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 01:29 that's the plan!! 01:29 not really a GOOD plan 01:29 but it's mine 01:30 mm~ 01:33 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35 -!- loli has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:39 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:29560 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:12662 02:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:29881 02:07 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:67248 02:09 If I run nethack in tmux (or screen), what should I set to be the tmux escape key? (By default that's ^b, but that conflicts with nethack, so I'm setting it to soemthing else.) 02:10 I'm thinking ^r 02:11 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:45823 02:12 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:45833 02:12 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:45842 02:14 What does Ctrl+B do in NetHack? 02:15 Runs, I think. 02:16 Ah 02:16 If you use numpad, that isn't a problem.~ 02:16 I don't have a numpad. :) 02:21 ah 02:23 [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7718 02:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:30276 02:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:24 -!- Umbire is now known as BirthyesterdayUm 02:25 -!- BirthyesterdayUm is now known as YesterbirthUmby 02:29 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) destroyed Alucard, on T:67903 02:33 Andrio: ctrl+any direction will run in that direction. (And shift+direction will also run, but more aggressively) 02:34 >be me 02:34 >leveling up cavegal for the quest 02:34 >run through soko and mines easily 02:34 >...too easily 02:34 >decide to travel further down into the dungeon and see what's up, hopefully get some wraiths or gain level 02:35 >find medusa's island 02:35 >only means I have of crossing is cold wand and inadvertent blasts from pet white dragon 02:35 "meh, I'll come back to this later" 02:35 "hmm today I shall start a wizard" 02:35 >clueless 02:36 >starting wand of polymorph with ring of poison resistance 02:36 >find a magic marker in a trap on level 2 02:36 >didn't even have to start scum 02:36 So how's your night? 02:39 Oh shit I just noticed I started with extra healing + gain energy too 02:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4357 points, T:2440, killed by a watchman 02:40 rip 02:40 lmfao, never seen that 02:41 Heh, was just trying out a config file and all, and this "curses" interface. 02:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:43 anyway I found a coaligned altar on the same floor 02:43 so feel free to take bets on how I'll splat this here wiz 02:43 (lmfao of course magic res cloak is an opera cloak) 02:45 What's the significance of that? 02:45 See above 02:45 * YesterbirthUmby gestures 02:46 but the context of that line specifically is my brain shifted and pulled up trivia about vampires from variants 02:47 I've have never gotten that from 'above'. :) 02:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:47 i.e. undead vamps in SLASH'EM have opera cloaks 02:47 always have* 02:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:49 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:68856 02:51 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:68877 02:51 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/783601215316951080/unknown.png 02:51 arahael: ^ 02:51 Oh, right. 02:51 -!- YesterbirthUmby is now known as Umbire 02:51 Beholder? 02:51 Umbire: Message from aosdict at 2020-11-30 15:09 EST: hm, a point in favor of the all the tropes wiki is that it still has a trope named TDTTOE 02:52 lul 02:52 Is it just me, or does evil seem to have fewer zombies at the moment? 02:52 aosdict: admittedly I got p. used to "Developers' Foresight" because it just seems so much easier to splash into sentences 02:52 I wouldn't know, I don't play evil 02:52 too much of a weenie, y'see 02:58 arahael no changes wrt zombies 02:58 There's a gaping pothole under you! --More-- 03:00 You fall down a deep shaft! 03:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31536 03:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31537 03:14 Decent amount of permafood, just need me some armor now 03:17 sweet, bag to put everything in 03:24 <@DarkLightDragon> Just had a case of keyboard cat. Thankfully she doesn't appear to have done anything beyond opening my inventory 03:24 <@DarkLightDragon> Wait, I think that was me. Ruby brought up the invalid direction thing 03:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8640 03:28 lul 03:28 YASI: CatHack, a variant that "keysmashes" random inputs every thousand or so turns 03:29 <@DarkLightDragon> Add a crazy cat lady class and I'd play that 03:31 Heh 03:31 How's your valk so far 03:31 -!- Umbire is now known as YesterbirthUmby 03:31 <@DarkLightDragon> Still alive for now 03:32 [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:9205 03:33 <@DarkLightDragon> "You duck some of the blast. The water troll disappears! You smell rotting flesh." 03:33 <@DarkLightDragon> that's a grim scene... 03:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:32532 03:35 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 03:37 inb4 Slex nasty trap 03:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:32569 03:44 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:49 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 03:51 @DarkLightDragon: Assuming you saw a trollshapeshift into something undead via telepathy 03:53 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 893 points, T:1045, killed by a gnome, while praying 03:58 [hdf-eu] [fh] Backs (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 43092 points, T:13117, killed by a pony, while unconscious from rotten food 03:59 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:00 Well got poison res off a red mold, we take those 04:06 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 04:07 And in my hubris I get smashed to pieces by a dwarf from full HP in one set of actions because I was slightly burdened 04:08 At least this next one started me with slow digestion/gain strength, charm monster, taming scroll and blessed remove curse 04:12 <@luxidream> $whereis Umbire 04:12 <@luxidream> !whereis Umbire 04:12 @luxidream: Umbire is not playing. 04:13 <@luxidream> !whereis dualremix 04:13 @luxidream: dualremix is not playing. 04:15 Phone gaming as usual lmfao 04:15 Also hi Luxi 04:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:33503 04:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33505 04:17 <@DarkLightDragon> @YesterbirthUmby Correct, the 'troll' was something else previously 04:17 Guessing a chameleon 04:17 <@DarkLightDragon> I'd assume so, given the chameleon corpse lying around 04:18 Oh you already killed it :B 04:18 <@DarkLightDragon> 🙂 04:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class P, on T:67789 04:19 any of you nerds doing advent of code? 04:21 What is 04:21 oh sick, another fl2 coaligned altar 04:22 aoei: yes :) 04:22 If only I'd rolled a higher STR than last game 04:22 deki: noice 04:22 😔 04:23 Upshot is I'm already at hungerless casting INT 04:23 <@luxidream> get a real laptop 04:23 if you mean me I have one 04:23 just too used to the mobile port 04:24 I also have a priest I'm in the middle of on hdf, if I remember I was last plotting out how to handle a werewolf situation 04:26 <@luxidream> oh so you upgraded from the chromebook? 04:26 <@luxidream> nice 🙂 04:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:68293 04:28 yeah months ago 04:28 dunno if you were here when I mentioned it 04:29 also honestly a tinning kit right next to the starting tile wasn't a bad shake either 04:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1042 04:32 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Kni Hum Fem Law), 777 points, T:1244, killed by a small mimic 04:38 Lemme guess, blunder into one in a store? 04:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 709 points, T:1214, killed by a gnome lord 04:42 -!- snes-nh has joined #hardfought 04:42 Random thought of the morning - I'd totally buy HF / TNNT merch 04:44 And I almost threw again walking onto a sleeping trap I didn't know was there 04:45 naturally my kitten walks right on it right as giant rats almost finish me off 04:46 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 04:47 snes-nh: me too 04:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 925 points, T:532, killed by a crossbow bolt, while praying 04:52 Still can't believe this second wiz has charm monster 04:52 and at like 04:53 * YesterbirthUmby takes off orcish helm 04:53 0%! 04:54 I'd gladly take single-digit fail rates but base 0% 04:56 ooh cloak of protection 04:56 probably still want magic resistance in the mines though... 04:58 mobileuser: i must have been unlucky in *every* evil game until now, then! 05:01 tnnt merch or riot 05:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Cav Hum Fem Law), 534 points, T:1285, killed by a dwarf 05:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Kni Hum Mal Law), 497 points, T:1640, killed by a giant bat 05:08 or you have been very lucky in your current games arahael? 05:09 In my game I am meeting plenty of zombies ;-) 05:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1382 05:22 mobileuser: Quite probably! 05:23 lmao lucky full ID for the inventory off uncursed ID after I used my blessed scroll 05:28 <@DarkLightDragon> I got a full ID earlier... and had forgotten to take out most of my scrolls 05:28 <@DarkLightDragon> but I still ID'd a bunch of things so it wasn't awful 05:28 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 05:29 I don't have a bag yet so 05:29 though I'm p. sure my bones is waiting in the mines 05:29 ...with a wand of polymorph out in the open-- 05:29 goddamnit! 05:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Slayer, on T:77049 05:30 ugh, at least I have an early ESP amulet 05:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:34 <@DarkLightDragon> random delicatessen with two rubber chickens in an ice box. Okay then. 05:35 it's a sign 05:35 you know what you must do 05:36 but that'd be mean D: 05:36 <@DarkLightDragon> not worth it for a deli 05:36 why not? Shk is still rich 05:36 now if it was a gen store then *maybe* 05:36 <@DarkLightDragon> but this level has the quest portal so I'll save them for then, perhaps 05:36 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 05:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:77711 05:37 Ooh neat, rubber chickens on the quest 05:37 Odds are if you're playing an average valk you're not THAT strapped for cash 05:37 at this point 05:37 depends tho 05:37 <@DarkLightDragon> Yeah, got a few thousand gold in the BoH 05:38 Quest implies you've done at least one of Soko and/or Mines 05:38 <@DarkLightDragon> Sure have 05:38 <@DarkLightDragon> I want to see if Ludios is in my game, but I don't want to get splatted 05:38 So yeah unless there's some really nice artifacts in a shop somewhere then it sounds like you're alright 05:39 <@DarkLightDragon> and I haven't ID'd enchant armour 05:39 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 05:40 <@DarkLightDragon> I suppose I can trudge all the way up to DL4 and sort things with my pair of coaligned altars 05:40 <@DarkLightDragon> I'll wait for a bit more loot first 05:41 I mean reflection will do a lot of legwork in Ludios 05:41 Especially if you've also claimed your quest arti 05:41 <@DarkLightDragon> having reflection would certainly help, yes 05:42 <@DarkLightDragon> I'm only XP 10, no quest for me yet 05:42 anyway found mah bones, killed the dorf what killed me 05:42 Oh, you spoke to the Norn yet? 05:42 <@DarkLightDragon> Grats on avenging yourself 🙂 05:42 If not that's fine, was just wondering 05:42 <@DarkLightDragon> No, but I know you need to be XP 14, unless that's changed in the newest version 05:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2420 points, T:2583, killed by a magical explosion 05:42 No it's the same, I was just gonna suggest camping out around there and farming giants if need be 05:42 Where was that when I was trying to get unique deaths? 05:43 Tangles: D 05:43 F* 05:43 !lastgame 05:43 Umbire_: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nimsumzero/nethack/dumplog/1606799380.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nh343/dumplog/1606905223.nh343.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1606903787.nh.html 05:43 <@DarkLightDragon> hm, not a bad idea since I have a tinning kit! 05:43 That's the spirit! 05:43 You uh, you do have fire res tho, right? 05:43 <@DarkLightDragon> can't remember, probably not 05:43 -!- YesterbirthUmby has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:43 Well the home level's a great source for that too 05:44 -!- Umbire_ is now known as YesterbirthUmby 05:44 <@DarkLightDragon> sure is 05:44 if not from the giants then probably from the fire ants 05:44 then again, fire ants... 05:44 but you're probably more than prepped at this point and have the super-important stuff in your BOH 05:44 super-important *flammable** stuff 05:45 <@DarkLightDragon> yeah, apart from a few un-ID'd wands I have to fight thr urge to put in there 05:45 Did you engrave test and see if any of them made the engraving vanish? 05:47 <@DarkLightDragon> looks like I missed a few, let's take care of that 05:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:81615 05:48 <@DarkLightDragon> no message, striking, light 05:49 So none of those are cancellation 05:49 i.e. safe to bag 05:49 just to check 05:49 you did engrave test that one with no message with a message below you already, right? 05:49 ^ 05:49 <@DarkLightDragon> yep 05:49 <@DarkLightDragon> no vanishers 05:49 Good 05:50 But ye, there you go 05:50 nice 05:50 <@DarkLightDragon> and now some relatives are playing Deep Rock Galactic so I'm going to go join them 05:50 Enjoy! 05:50 if I get a vanishing wand after engrave testing I usually point it at an easily killable monster e.g. a floating eye 05:51 it vanishes but I bump into something I can't see, that's make invisible and I can kill it for free since I can't see it to get paralyzed 05:51 <@DarkLightDragon> thanks for the tip, I know to pre-engrave but that'll help 05:51 it's still around, that means it got cancelled and I take it out with the usual precautions 05:51 etc. 05:55 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1351 points, T:1297, killed by a wolf 05:59 NO 05:59 fuck, I should've taken the cursed magic marker out of the bag 05:59 I knew it wasn't a BOH 05:59 blah, missed opportunity, I'll pin that for later 06:00 that said I do have some water to make holy :thinking: 06:02 oh shit, smoky potion in here too 06:02 shame I can't remember what it was 06:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:86905 06:04 in any case I have plenty of blank paper to use this marker with once I uncurse it 06:05 blessed object detection eh? 06:05 guess I'm nymph hunting this run 06:05 YES 06:05 FIRST TRY IDIOT 06:06 ...but my HP is <40 06:06 * YesterbirthUmby thinks 06:08 Oh right! Magic resistance 06:08 so at worst I take a whopping 20 06:08 1000000zm question now is "do I take a chance at the PYEC or go for SDSM?" 06:09 because I know I'll live for certain if I take the former 06:09 but I'm STILL leaning towards the latter since that offers so much more survivability 06:09 esp. against future wands 06:09 which might be enough to consider passing up low-cost charging 06:11 fuck it, SDSM it is 06:11 I'll save the PYEC wish for after I get Magicbane or s/t 06:13 there, solved inventory problem as well 06:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1144 06:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "very holy greased fixed ring of conflict", on T:90184 06:19 o: 06:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1712 points, T:1483, killed by a magic missile 06:21 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 06:21 aoei: [backscroll] wait what? you can start with rotten equipment? 06:22 -!- luxidream has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 06:23 aosdict: nani 06:25 *sigh*, just heard an explosion in the distance. :( 06:25 Not what you want to hear in soko. 06:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 19 points, T:234, killed by a sewer rat 06:27 [hdf-eu] [spl] gargor (Dan Elf Mal Cha), 18 points, T:78, slain by a sewer rat 06:27 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:27 lemme guess, just woke the whole zoo? 06:28 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 06:28 amateurhour: if you were curious, the average TNNT ascension was was a 15:59:00 game in 44775 turns with 4 conducts 06:28 YesterbirthUmby: Yep. 06:28 were you IN the zoo? 06:28 nice one luxidream 06:28 Luckily, no! 06:30 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:32 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:33 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 10941 points, T:5052, petrified by a chickatrice 06:34 :c 06:34 No lizard corpses? 06:35 Fun game, though. I had about 5 chickatrices in that soko, and yeah, no lizards, or any form of acid. 06:35 F 06:35 I had observed, however, that when I hit monsters, you could see all the effects of the gradual stoning, including "has almost completely turned to stone". I had incorrectly assumed I would follow the same process. 06:36 Wait you got instastoned? 06:36 How 06:36 But the process for me was one turn sooner. 06:36 Oh, probably unlucky speed roll 06:36 Not quite, so I tried two potions. 06:36 But the third turn I was going to pray. Reason I risked it was because I was very doubtful I could safely pray as I had already recentyl prayed earlier - again, because I was becoming stone. 06:37 evilhack is hard 06:37 Fun, though. :) 06:38 salvaged my bones from the previous wiz game and got a first try wish off a pre-blessed smoky potion 06:38 looking up from here 06:39 just wish I had more carrying capacity 06:40 right I remember now, my old copper ring was for poison res 06:40 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1460 points, T:937, killed by a bolt of cold 06:41 haha I'm playing so shit tonight. 06:41 :[ 06:41 !lastgame 06:41 YesterbirthUmby: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nimsumzero/nethack/dumplog/1606799380.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/nethack/dumplog/1606906018.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1606908263.nh.html 06:41 I tried to force-bolt a monkey in monkeytown, not realising it was peaceful. 06:41 F 06:42 That's why I always farlook to check for peacefuls 06:42 (mainly so I know which of the thieving twats to thwomp) 06:42 yes, well that would have been the smart thing to do. 06:42 Like I said, I'm not playing well tonight. 06:43 I mean I tried to melee a dwarf as a dagger-wielding wizard while burdened so 06:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:44 lucky to even get that solid start on the second wiz, let alone a run where the bones from that appeared 06:45 and magicbane! 06:45 Umbire how come you don't play on servers again? 06:45 at this point, habit. 06:46 Woah, totally awesome *bone* pick here. :) 06:46 I should get back to that one priest though 06:46 lolno I just got it as my sac gift 06:46 actually have a scroll of enchant weapon ready to go too 06:46 public servers are better imo, nice to look back on successful games and share bones 06:47 both have perks 06:47 (and the Android port has Hearse) 06:47 There's hearse, though, but not the same. 06:47 yeah but sharing with people in this irc chat :P 06:47 I mean it's damn fascinating to run into other people's bones while like, on the bus and shit 06:47 also the scoreboard is pretty neat: https://nethackscoreboard.org/players/a/amateurhour.all.html 06:47 amateurhour: greed will get you nowhere :B 06:47 * YesterbirthUmby baps with newspaper 06:47 greed? 06:48 is joak 06:48 I don't get it :D 06:48 I really do need to figure out the werewolf thing, I haven't found soko yet and it's no doubt gonna get in my way if I head further down 06:48 I think my decision was to take a shot with the Mines 06:48 will have to review the tty 06:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:49 yay strength exercise boost 06:50 no one should have to suffer through the mobile port 06:50 this bones polymorph wand I'd left has 8 charges I think? 06:50 please, it's the entire reason I sought out this server 06:52 imagine if there was some bug in the mobileport that meant it was the best for realtime speedruns 06:53 lol 06:53 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 06:55 got a wand of digging out of the early polypile attempt, that's something 06:55 inethack might still be 3.4.3 06:55 Android's still 3.6.2 06:56 you might be able to do the thing where you give your steed the amulet then levelport to 1 06:56 wew 06:56 that is if you manage to get that far without the app eating your save 06:57 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:57 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1095 06:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class e, on T:95590 06:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class v, on T:95591 06:59 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 07:00 ngl it's awful tempting to just write enchant weapon rn 07:00 marker is still cursed from when I picked it up off that trap but I have blessed blank paper 07:01 pays to be patient though 07:03 really all I'd need is a BoH and I'm set for a good while 07:03 then I just collect resistances and spells 07:03 +aosdict | aoei: [backscroll] wait what? you can start with rotten equipment? <-- yup one of my wiz games on hfe/xnh started with a burnt rotten quaterstaff, unfortunately i already quit that one, bug? 07:04 xNet hm? 07:04 You told K2? 07:04 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:04 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:06 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 07:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 Black Dragon Scale Mail", on T:35219 07:11 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Quit: Really quit? (Y/N)] 07:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 5750 points, T:2017, killed by a fire elemental 07:16 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 07:19 bam, RNG bag of holding off a gnome 07:24 [hdf-eu] [fh] Pipe (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the ranger of Ket, the former Trailblazer, on T:9616 07:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:3813 07:31 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 07:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4365 07:37 YASI: Healers get the ability to create tame mummies with a corpse and enough wrappings 07:38 YANI: some way of creating golems from their constituent materials 07:38 YesterbirthUmby: was it your birthday yesterday? 07:38 Ye 07:38 amateurhour: Just polypile 4Head 07:38 nice happy (belated) birthady 07:38 thank! 07:39 amateurhour: are you doing advent of code 07:39 its very important 07:39 other than polypile, I want a recipe and process to get corpses and create an abomination 07:39 you can't have christmas unless you get all 50 stars 07:40 that means NO PRESENTS 07:40 I only just remembered that it's a thing so I haven't been 07:40 maybe I will 07:40 i only did day 1 so far 07:40 so im behind 07:40 i also didnt know it was a thing until today 07:40 as in i had no idea previous years etc. 07:41 going to take a wild guess and assume you're doing it in rust 07:41 :P 07:41 nothing gets by you eh 07:41 https://github.com/aoeixsz4/advent-rs 07:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 2176 points, T:5107, quit 07:43 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:46 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 07:48 amateurhour: day 1 is in two parts, if you do naïve trivial solutions you get O(n^2) for the first part and O(n^3) for the second 07:48 I got O(n log n) and O(n^2), respectively :3 07:49 but its actually possible to do it in O(max(n,m)) and O(n log m) 07:49 respectively for parts 1 and 2 07:49 oho will there be AoC 07:50 what do you mean will there be 07:50 there already is and you're behind 07:50 https://adventofcode.com/ 07:50 oh 07:50 uh 07:50 you have four challenges to do 07:50 and two more tomorrow 07:50 hurry up!! 07:50 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:50 err 07:50 first one is knapsack problem? 07:51 np-complete 07:51 no idea 07:51 i just know i solved it with O(n log n) :P 07:51 https://xkcd.com/287/ this one 07:51 it's still bruteforceable :> 07:51 O(n log n) doesn't sound polynomial.. 07:52 stennowork: i dont think its the same problem 07:53 -!- dopplergange has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:53 well the obvious one is, uh 07:53 ah yeah knapsack would be: find a combination of numbers whose sum results in 2020 07:53 right 07:53 but here we have it gives that its only 2 07:53 part is find two 07:53 part 2 is find three 07:54 the knapsack thing has !fewer degrees of freedom 07:54 i forgot what the word is for the opposite of fewer 07:54 i feel like it's not more 07:54 more 07:54 lol 07:55 less/more fewer/something 07:55 morer 07:55 that doesnt sound right either :s 07:55 i think its more 07:55 or maybe it really is jus tmore for both in english 07:55 in danish they distinguish them for both the surplus and the lesser case 07:55 not sure how it works in german 07:56 asked in ##english 07:56 in german its the same too 07:56 wenig/mehr weniger/mehr 07:56 isn't the opposite of wenig viel? 07:57 yeah ok 07:57 my first thought was 'greater' 07:57 wenig/viel weniger/mehr 07:57 hmm 07:58 that feeling when you just get an email back 'works like a charm' 07:58 so good 07:58 noice 07:58 the best kind of emails 07:58 stennowork: my solutions for day 1 worked first try 07:58 i was pleased 07:58 fucking sysadmin tasks 07:58 well i can create a solution that will work first try too but it wont be optimal i think 07:59 i spent quite some time thinkinga bout how i would do it 07:59 and rust analyzer helped me get all the syntax correct 07:59 so when i actually ran it it worked perfectly first time :3 07:59 that rarely happens whne i try to write code lmao 07:59 so it was a good feeling 08:00 having not seen part 2 my first thought was either sort then use two points or hashmap of (number, count) 08:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:26725 08:00 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 08:01 so for part 1 i sort 08:01 and then i use two indices 08:01 but a single pass 08:01 so overall the sort is the limiting 08:01 for part 2 i just do the same thing with an extra loop 08:01 so it ends up O(n^2) 08:02 hashmap might afford something more efficient tho 08:02 its a good idea 08:02 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 08:02 not thought about part 2 at all 08:02 probs sorting still better 08:03 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:03 ah i for some reason parsed your comment as, you hadn't seen the actual description online for part 2 but were offering ideas about it based on how i described the problem 08:03 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 08:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ogre king, on T:21889 08:03 one method this guy showed me is better for large n but actually worse than O(n log n) for the sample size you're given (which is 200) 08:05 the O(max(n,m)) one is quite similar to your hashmap idea 08:06 it's asymptotic runtime better, but it's not actually better in practice for the challenge lol 08:06 idk if I can actually be bothered to do an advent of code lol 08:06 fair 08:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 571 points, T:1398, killed by a dagger 08:06 i also feel there's a reasonable chance i'll do it for a few days and lose interest 08:07 maybe I'll try muster some motivation by seeing who at work is doing it as well 08:07 last year I did a few days of it and just got bored 08:07 lol 08:07 yeah 08:07 kerio said he did that 4 years running and intends to continue the tradition 08:07 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:13 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 08:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 814 points, T:1196, killed by a gnome lord 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:24446 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excavator, on T:27360 08:21 well, good news bad news about my current wiz game 08:21 bad news is it's orc town 08:21 good news is I still have my poison res ring and a bag of tricks fresh for converting the altar with 08:21 my only qualm is idk if my pets'll make it 08:21 can't you just sac all the orcs? 08:22 to do that I have to get TO the altar safely, which usually means cutting through all the orcs 08:22 ooh, create monster wand 08:23 [hdf-eu] [fh] Pipe (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 37370 points, T:11517, killed by a leocrotta 08:25 F 08:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:27872 08:30 there we go, found a nice position to sac all the orcs from 08:30 didn't have to kill too many to get there 08:30 biggest obstacle to deal with is my pets eating everything at this point 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17688 08:35 lmfao orc-captains teamkilling 08:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:27335 08:39 oh whew apparently I never mentally registered the +2 iron shoes I have on 08:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:99281 08:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class c, on T:99519 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 722 points, T:1606, killed by a giant ant 08:52 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2245 points, T:3795, killed by a giant bat 08:59 -!- b_jonas has joined #hardfought 08:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Chieftainess, on T:100524 09:00 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2000 09:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 T-Shirt", on T:27905 09:01 b_jonas, hi 09:01 b_jonas, were you always in this channel? :D 09:07 that's most of the orcs I think 09:07 gonna clear out the rest of the floor and then start using up the monster generating items I got 09:08 actually no, gonna clear out the floor, grab the Mines' End luckstone, THEN spam sacrifices maybe 09:09 hello ochre jelly, you sure are an unwelcome sight 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 183 points, T:641, killed by a small mimic 09:09 getting acid all over my nice cloak 09:10 stennowork: no, but I think I twas here once. I haven't played nethack or nethack-likes for many yeras, but I was on nethack channels back when they were named different. 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:29667 09:14 b_jonas, gotcha 09:15 yeah i know you from back then, saw your name and thought you had returned - but you were here all along 09:15 well 09:15 wait you weren't 09:15 I was on freenode all along 09:15 yes 09:15 what made you join now? 09:15 heard about TNNT? 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 13197 points, T:11303, killed by a mumak 09:20 [hdf-eu] [fh] Colon (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 22834 points, T:2786, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt, while frozen by potion vapours 09:20 I'm not sure. I just joined random channels from my list of channels. 09:22 I'm scared of nethack ever since 3.6 was released 09:22 pff 09:22 Everything post 3.6.1 is just fine, trust 09:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 659 points, T:1244, killed by a giant ant 09:22 See, same as it ever was! 09:22 !gt a 09:22 ...go team a! 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:30524 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30527 09:22 b_jonas, nethack 3.6.1+ are arguably better than 3.4.3-NAO 09:23 3.7 will be _very_ good 09:23 you just have to learn to stop leaning on the e-word and play more cautiously to account for more movements because of the speed system changes 09:24 I only ever did one ascension, that with nethack4's old broken monster difficulty formula so (until I get the amulet) monsters are spawned only according to the dlxl, not my xl, so I can grind easy monsters as xl 30 for as long as I want. 09:25 E-word is actually fine again 09:25 i use it again 09:25 lol b_jonas 09:25 YesterbirthUmby: that, and also the changes to armor MC. how would I ever get deep if bees can sting through mithril? how do I defend against bees? 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 366 points, T:1249, killed by a giant spider 09:25 the same as usual? 09:26 funnily enough there's a horde of bees about to be sac fodder in my current game 09:26 I could probably deal with just the normal 3.4.3 monster difficulty formula, I have played nethack like that enough. but no protection from bees? 09:26 I actually don't have the intrinsic though, been relying on the ring 09:26 you can still E-word them and funnel them down halls like normal 09:26 not like mithril was nerfed into the ground 09:27 not just mithril, MC in general 09:27 MC2 instead of MC3 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 30 points, T:247, killed by a water demon 09:27 you'll live :B 09:29 brb 09:29 phone dedded and I have to let it charge 09:29 while it does I can contemplate my gameplan 09:29 (I love playing the mobile port since it got me into NH in general) 09:30 next wish I get, I'm considering PYEC for this wiz, after which it's magic markers and polymorph wands all the way 09:31 granted I'll probably be able to write charging by the time I get to the castle (gods willing) 09:32 it was just convenient to have a game where I can spend as much time as I want learning because it would never have serious gameplay changes. and obviously I can still play 3.4.3-based variants if I want, but the servers will have 3.6-based games. 09:32 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 6669 points, T:2688, killed by an ice vortex 09:33 3.4.3 lives on hardfought 09:33 I mean you can always dl/compile 3.4.3 for yourself 09:33 also that 09:33 valks are still the idea "beginner" class 09:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class g, on T:100927 09:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:100951 09:37 also a lot of supercool variants out there 09:37 honestly eager to give them all a try eventually 09:37 maybe even trope 'em 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 450 points, T:963, killed by withering away 09:42 Shit, what death is that again 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3164 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:19612 09:49 [hdf-us] [un] mobius (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 691 points, T:1932, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:52 YesterbirthUmby if you're referring to krm26's death - mummy secondary attack that can linger for several turns 09:52 Aye I was 09:52 How does it work again o: 09:53 mummy claws you, you start to wither away, meaning you lose a small amount of hit point each turn and you cant regen hit points until the withering effect goes away 09:53 various things can cure it 09:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 432 points, T:1286, killed by a giant mimic 09:53 Go on 09:54 * YesterbirthUmby may or may not be taking notes for the future ATT page 09:54 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3fb3081f4a0ff2b72e88cc55920e5ffd39b173c5 09:54 ^ explains it all 09:55 yey 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 493 points, T:1563, killed by a straw golem, while praying 09:58 [hdf-us] [dyn] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law), 2936 points, T:3116, killed by a vampire bat 10:00 I wonder if anyone has done anything interesting with straw golems 10:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1258 points, T:1457, killed by a killer bee 10:03 or golems at all? 10:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:41, on T:102582 10:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:102591 10:08 if only we could (rev)-geno paper golems 10:08 supreme value 10:08 the wet dream of every speed runner 10:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:35438 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1204 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 877 points, T:1214, killed by a water moccasin 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:35549 10:13 I know a bunch of variants introduce new golems and stuff 10:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:40 (for the 5th time), on T:103299 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 202 points, T:661, killed by Ms. Tirebolu; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 398 points, T:784, killed by a sewer rat 10:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:103986 10:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:103987 10:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 522 points, T:1510, killed by a killer bee 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2655 10:25 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class n, on T:104105 10:29 <@based> @aosdict hello. I was just leaving vlads tower, moving a boulder in gehennom, in xnethack. shortly afterwards, I was sent back to the hardfought server menu, and now when I select (x)nethack, it tells me that I have an old game in progress, and a (y/n) if I want to destroy the old game? 10:29 <@based> when I select (n) it sends me back to the hardfought nethack variant selection screen 10:29 <@based> 😅 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:2757 10:30 <@based> it was pretty much a guaranteed ascension too at this point 10:31 <@based> @K2 hello, is it possible to recover a hardfought xnethack game? 10:32 yup 10:32 which server you playing on? 10:33 <@based> hardfought US 10:33 playing as 'based' ? 10:33 <@based> no, as "Jilvane" 10:33 ah of course 10:33 how did i not see that :) 10:34 yeah, should be a simple rcv 10:35 @based, game is recovered 10:35 <@based> thank you sir 10:35 no prob 10:35 no lets see why that happened 10:37 hmm there's an older coredump from the 29th, but not one from today. dammit 10:37 well if it happenes again we should see it 10:38 <@based> the plot thickens... 10:38 !tell aosdict xnh crash from nov 29th, unreported. backtrace - https://termbin.com/xs2l 10:38 I'm on it, K2. 10:39 <@based> hmm, im not sure what that termbin means, but I wasnt doing anything "wizard" related on that day I believe... 10:39 @based that backtrace doesnt have anything to do with your crash 10:39 it was from an unreported crash on the 29th 10:40 <@based> haha okay oops 10:40 <@based> well 10:40 <@based> it happened again 10:40 ok 10:40 <@based> I did a fast travel up to Vlads tower 10:40 and there's a coredump 10:40 one sec 10:40 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41 @based can you describe exactly what you did right before the crash occurred? 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1434 points, T:2971, killed by a magic missile 10:41 hah the crash is exactly the same as the old one 10:42 <{Demo}> yeah so heres what happened 10:42 <@based> I was outside of Vlad's tower, and I entered the tower level one, and input _ < to fast travel to Vlads level 2 10:42 <{Demo}> the wizard harassed him 10:42 <{Demo}> with nasties 10:42 <{Demo}> and it crashed cause the code couldnt handle it 10:42 <@based> dammit Rodney 10:42 <{Demo}> cause it called nasty with no summoner and theres code that doesnt verify summoner exists before trying to deref it 10:42 ^ aosdict 10:43 <{Demo}> i think he'll know that when he sees it 10:43 most likely yes 10:43 <{Demo}> but yeah, fun crash 10:43 aosdict is a smart one at that 10:43 <{Demo}> dnh had a crash like that and it happened to me on the plane of water 10:43 <{Demo}> and plane of water was also broken 10:43 <{Demo}> couldnt save/restore on it 10:43 <{Demo}> or recover from crashes cause thats just a restore 10:43 <{Demo}> so yeahhhhhhh 10:43 @based, game is recovered again 10:44 might want to hold off though until aosdict pushes a fix 10:44 <@based> yeah sounds good 10:44 <@based> stupid wizard!!! 10:44 heh 10:44 <@based> Wizard of yendor summoning a bug to prevent my ascension 10:44 <@based> so powerful.. 10:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:45 <@based> thanks a bunch for restoring it! 10:45 [hdf-eu] [fh] Apost (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 18722 points, T:2370, killed by a gnome lord 10:45 <{Demo}> found the commit that introduced this i think https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/18a5bacbf73166182ed2b4990144c40bcbfaf52d 10:45 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:46 !tell Bliss56 please let every know that I recovered his xnethack game that crashed back on nov 29th, hopefully there's a fix for the issue soon 10:46 Bliss56 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 10:46 @based you're welcome 10:46 pogress! 10:46 also hi demo 10:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2140 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1456 points, T:3483, killed by an orc-captain 10:53 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 10:53 -!- YesterbirthUmby has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:54 <@based> oh wow 10:54 <@based> the last ascension in xnethack, was a day before the Summon nasties commit change 10:54 <@based> so the bug has been dormant there for a few weeks 10:54 <{Demo}> who knows when it went live on the server though 10:54 <@based> ah yeah 10:55 <@based> damn ring of conflict blew up instantly in gehennom from a shocking sphere 10:55 <@based> had to quaff every fountain in the game for a wish (which i managed to get) 10:56 <{Demo}> god i hate shock destroying rings 10:56 <@based> notD removes that right? 10:56 <{Demo}> dnh removes it 10:57 <{Demo}> and also nerfs shocks interaction with wands, sort of 10:57 <@based> even genocided (e) and (v) this run... 10:57 <{Demo}> makes it wayyyyy more dangerous to the player 10:57 <@based> no mercy for shock 10:57 <{Demo}> and less to the items 10:57 <{Demo}> each time a wand gets selected for shock destruction, it damages you a bit and drains a charge from the wand 10:57 -!- YesterbirthUmby has joined #hardfought 10:57 <{Demo}> so when you have a lot of wands and get hit with multiple shock attacks in one turn, the damage can be insane 10:58 what'd I miss 10:59 <@based> notdnethack probably seems like the variant ill try next, but (just a passing question), does it support regex and menucolors and the likes 11:00 <@based> being a new player, I got used to a lot of regex stuff when I was starting with TNNT 11:00 <@luxidream> hey aosdict what's the deal with making shocking spheres destroy rings and wands 11:00 <@luxidream> not cool 11:00 <@based> oh so thats a xnh thing? 11:01 <@based> was pretty nasty.. 11:01 <@luxidream> yeah, commit that makes spheres do aoe element damage 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1108 11:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Pillager, on T:3174 11:02 shit now they're actually dangerous as opposed to a minor annoyance solved by gathering resistances 11:02 <{Demo}> it supports whatever nao supports in that regard, so i think so yeah but it will be a bit different a config format than 3.6 based stuff 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 768 points, T:1123, killed by an ancient pseudodragon, while sleeping 11:02 <@based> i had MC3 and both spheres blew up my conflict and telecontrol 11:02 <@based> @Demo thanks! 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fireproof platinum yendorian express card", on T:5 11:03 ndnh is epic but probably more epic after you played dnh 11:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1345 11:04 MC3 isn't a panacea, still at RNG's merc 11:04 mercy* 11:04 <@based> both shocking spheres blew up two rings! 11:05 <@based> tele control and conflict and slow digestion and free action 11:05 <@based> poofed! 11:05 you definitely had mc3? 11:05 <@based> cloack of prot +4 11:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1554 points, T:1520, killed by a gnome lord 11:05 ah 11:05 <@based> cloak* 11:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3542 11:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:43738 11:05 <@based> its still a 10% chance so yeah 11:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3201 points, T:3552, killed by a hill orc 11:07 <@based> i tried splicehack before getting into xnh but a few run ins with some bad clones (Q) made me miserable 11:07 <@based> those slashem monsters are so evil 11:10 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 570 points, T:785, killed by a parrot 11:17 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Brd Elf Fem Cha), 1355 points, T:1331, killed by a dwarf 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1126 points, T:914, killed by a rabid dog 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:39200 11:27 welp that's the floor cleared and all my permafood used up 11:27 onward I soldier 11:29 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 1416 points, T:1551, killed by a small dart 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2380 11:31 also I have fireblade 11:33 are you umby? 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Hrnn's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2642 11:35 <@luxidream> Lol you should geno bad clones 11:35 don't energy vortices have a chance to explode rings when you kill them ? 11:35 i can't stand those things 11:35 what do bad clones do? 11:36 <@luxidream> I think they have attacks of two random monsters 11:36 <@luxidream> Never bothered fighting one to find out 11:37 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Arc Dwa Mal Cha), 366 points, T:365, killed by a hobbit 11:37 <@based> those bad clones smacked the shizzat out of me and then a quantum mechanic tele'd me to the downstairs so i nope'd outta there 11:37 <@based> then a lovely (L) drained me to 12 strength and i was crippled 11:37 <@based> that was a sad run 11:37 sounds nasty 11:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Elf-Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:905 11:38 <@luxidream> Don’t go in those Q rooms either 11:39 <@based> I didnt really want to but the downstairs was in that room 11:39 <@based> felt like a really evil splicehack moment 11:39 <@based> dang i really wanna play my xnh run but its just gonna crash immediately 11:39 <@based> aosdict save meeeee 11:41 rebatela: Only if you trigger their passive 11:42 <@luxidream> Umby that’s not right either, their touch attack after they expel you can damage wands and rings 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 74 points, T:392, killed by a grid bug 11:45 oh right 11:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 orihalcyon gauntlets", on T:45252 11:48 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1614 11:49 [hdf-us] [un] mobius (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1581 points, T:3231, killed by a water demon 11:51 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 11:52 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1656 points, T:2510, killed by a crow 11:52 Hi guys, are there any news regarding my knight that can't go down to Medusa's? 11:53 no not yet 11:53 O.k. I'll start another character on the us server. 11:54 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:54 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest11591 11:54 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:3595 11:54 @based [backscroll] maybe "crash bug" should be an x class monster summonable with summon nasties 11:54 aosdict: Message from K2 at 2020-12-02 10:38 EST: xnh crash from nov 29th, unreported. backtrace - https://termbin.com/xs2l 11:55 <@based> hahaha 11:55 Hi Albert 11:55 What's the problem with your game? 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:46196 11:56 @luxidream strictly speaking, shocking spheres were always supposed to destroy rings and wands and just didn't because they're not properly implemented properly in vanilla, only doing phys damage negated by [element res] 11:56 -!- Guest11591 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:57 !tell LarienTelrunya yaslexi "crash bug" x class monster that is a summonable nasty and crashes the game 11:57 No worries, aosdict, I've got this! 11:57 Hi, YesterbirthUbly. The problem is that it crashes each time I return to Medusa's level and I get just the main menu. K2 did some analysis and they think it might havo to do be related to some figurine. 11:57 https://termbin.com/hkysa 11:57 the problem is a cursed figurine timer is called however the reference to the figurine when read from triggers a segfault 11:57 ^ AlbertB's game 11:57 <@based> rodney gonna summon 10 crash bugs 11:57 just Umby works lol 11:58 I see 11:58 sir lord umbire III the exalted 11:58 it's probably one the dev team would be interested in, so if noone's submitted a bug report that should probably be done 11:58 bhaak / paxed either of you aware of this bug? 370 edit level 23 11:58 https://termbin.com/hkysa 11:58 amateurhour agreed. will ask here first but if both are too busy to look at it now, i'll do up an official bug report 11:59 also there's a priority one bug in 3.7 where sokoban floors are sometimes the wrong orientation, someone should fix that :^) 11:59 * K2 imagines paxed popping in and saying 'send in a bug report' and then leaving 11:59 amateurhour: ah yes that one 11:59 sokosad 11:59 @based problem is that I've got a load of unpushed commits I don't really want to push yet. can make a hotfix I guess 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:47233 12:00 <@based> pls good sir 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:47241 12:01 <@based> i was on my way to the vibrating square, with two wands of wishing unused and -42 ac, 440hp 12:01 <@based> very phat barbarian 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:47254 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 545 points, T:1333, killed by a giant spider 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:3845 12:03 <@luxidream> That’s pretty nasty regardless 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 74 points, T:195, killed by a bear trap 12:05 <@based> b-but a hotfix for xnh would be very nice 12:05 <@luxidream> Though the way that they can be avoided with a dex save 12:05 aosdict, I don't think it's a bug that shocking spheres don't destroy rings and wands 12:06 <@luxidream> Doesn’t make a lot of sense either 12:06 I think item destruction is not a very fun mechanic 12:06 <@based> yeah made me genocide (e) and (v) 12:07 Destroying 1/3 of all currently carried rings and wands is way too high, I agree. 12:07 I had an idea on that for splice vulpenfernoes I think... 12:07 especially if you consider hypothetical optimal man who takes off and bags all rings and wands when encountering such a monster 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4874 12:07 1/6 or 1/8 sounds reasonable 12:08 and then takes out and puts on free action again once the monster is dead 12:08 I mean that's 12:08 what I do lol 12:08 <@luxidream> How about not affecting rings 12:08 or try to 12:08 dnh approach sounds interesting 12:08 drains a charge from a wand/ring instead of destroying it 12:08 I think there should be a cap on the number of affected items 12:09 K2: but unchargeable rings? 12:09 alternative proposal: when getting hit by such an attack, you can't use wands for a few turns 12:09 boom explode :) 12:09 <@luxidream> K2 isn’t that what fourk does? 12:09 <@luxidream> Unchargeable rings don’t explode 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4364 12:09 @luxidream not sure what fourk does 12:09 <@luxidream> Other things lose a charge 12:09 <@luxidream> And you take damage of course 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3371 points, T:4388, quit 12:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46924 12:13 <@based> just gotta genocide everything... 12:13 <@based> cant be hurt if everythings dead 12:14 have fun with archons 12:15 <@based> well not everything 12:15 <@based> just e, v, L, n, i, U, P 12:15 <@luxidream> Explain i 12:16 don't geno H 12:16 ... leprechauns got them down? 12:16 <@based> only once im on my way back up, for the hell of it, I hate leprechauns (despite them 100% funding my protection) 12:16 oh acehack? 12:16 er 12:16 xnethack? 12:16 <@based> yeah 12:16 gotcha 12:16 <@based> can you geno H in xnh? 12:16 yes 12:16 you can in vanilla but terrible things will happen 12:16 but iirc titans are ungenoable 12:16 ^ because of that 12:17 ^ not any xnh changes here 12:17 <@luxidream> Stenno only if you’re a valkyrie 12:17 especially fun when doing it _before_ valk quest 12:17 titans are always nasty 12:17 <@based> i also geno'd gremlins 12:17 you also can't geno Lord Surtur or the Cyclops :( 12:17 <@based> hate them slimy bastards 12:17 <@luxidream> What other areas generate random H 12:17 castle 12:17 @luxidream dungeon of doom, gehennom 12:17 -!- AlbertB has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:18 <@luxidream> Specifically random H 12:18 stennowork: I think luxidream is asking about mkclass not random gen 12:18 ah 12:18 I know you can't geno titans, but what happens when you geno H in vanilla? Definitely not about to in my evil game! 12:18 well i was talking about random gen :P 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 612 points, T:1536, killed by a giant ant 12:18 rebatela, well what we just said 12:18 random gen will not particularly favor titans and won't produce any at all if they're OOD 12:18 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 12:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1430 points, T:3608, killed by a contaminated potion 12:18 hmm true 12:19 they'll be a little likelier in random gen due to the other H being absent, but not extremely so 12:19 i'm having trouble following it. I just saw "terrible things will happen" 12:19 <@based> archons arent too bad to deal with when you have trusty old stormbringer 12:19 like what? game crashes? 12:19 rebatela, any generated H will be a titan 12:19 lol really? 12:19 yes, because titans are the only un-genocidable H 12:19 -!- terpri has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 oic 12:19 hmmmmm 12:19 i love titans 12:20 so, if you do it before entering the valk quest, you will have a _good time_ 12:20 * rebatela charges magic harp 12:20 or the castle 12:20 base MR 70 12:20 enjoy getting through this with a tool 12:20 so if you have a 0:90 magic marker and you poly it and it will turn into a magic harp, will it be a 1:90(?) magic harp? 12:21 nah they max at 20 i think 12:21 <@based> polypiling is the most fun game mechanic ive seen in a game in years 12:21 <@based> wish i had discovered nethack earlier 12:21 i like polypiling more than i like ascending 12:21 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 12:21 <@based> the poor mans wand of wishing 12:21 i like polypiling if it gives me the things i want 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:48167 12:22 i hate it when it just destroys all my items 12:22 <@based> yeah... 12:22 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:22 sometimes it feels like I'm the only one that doesn't really like it 12:22 <@based> when the 8 unicorn horns dont turn into a magic marker 12:22 amateurhour, it can cost a lot of resources and the result might be nothing 12:22 helps if the stuff is blessed (with the shuddering) 12:23 the shuddening 12:23 amateurhour: nah lots of people don't 12:23 its high variance 12:23 mobileuser is really good and doens't like to poly 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3762 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3762 12:23 it might make or break a low-resource game 12:24 <@based> polypiling for scrolls is my favorite part 12:24 <@based> when that 4 stack of confuse monsters turns into enchant armor 12:24 <@based> oo mama 12:24 hell yeah 12:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:24 but it's best to blank a stack and bless them 12:24 during tnnt i had an insane poly, polypiling like 6 rings, and i got exactly the Big 4 12:24 with first zap 12:24 that's the best! 12:25 saved me at least 2 wishes and some major inconvenience 12:25 i love being able to cast it at 0% fail. I just zap it at death drops of junk 12:25 95% fail for me now lol 12:25 can't remember when i last cast poly at 0% lol 12:25 dunno if i ever 12:26 <@based> i should go zap the 11 pages of loot in fort ludios 12:26 <@based> but will the wizard follow me there? 12:26 <@based> he's being a tad aggressive in xnh... 12:26 -!- terpri has joined #hardfought 12:26 with a robe and hob, monks can cast 0% at lvl 30 or whatever 12:26 so obviously wizards can 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2165 points, T:2815, killed by a killer bee 12:27 I still think Master kaen should wear a giant sized robe... 12:27 not because it makes sense, but I would like my giant to be able to wear a robe 12:31 !who 12:31 [un] nekochan [spl] Alasnuyo [dnh] 12:31 K2: [hdf-us] hearsegirl [ndnh] eitbo [tnnt] bleeko [tnnt] rebatela [evil] BoisterousSloth [evil] krm26 [evil] oh6 [nh370] tinklebear [nh370] post163 [nh370] Hrnn [nh370] x86Cow [nh370] AlbertB [nh370] quervo1 [nh370] Karnac [nh370] Grouchy [nh370] sonsie [nh370] spleen [nh370] hothraxxa | [hdf-eu] Everdying [tnnt] Thagomizer [slshm] Kontroller [nh370] amateurhour [slex] OmNyomNyom [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:31 so many players 12:31 oh great that the server was still running, so i could copy my tnnt rcfile to 3.7.0 12:32 stenno you could still do that even when tnnt is no longer available to play 12:32 ah, good to know 12:33 [hdf-eu] [fh] Question (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the ghost of Apost, the former Tenderfoot, on T:9960 12:33 awesome feature btw 12:33 and technically speaking, tnnt is not on its own server 12:33 the variant* :P 12:33 :) 12:33 yeah Tangles made the cfg copying feature 12:33 its so choice 12:33 xNetHack updated (all servers) 12:33 ^ @based 12:33 the dgl menu has gotten HUGE lol\ 12:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1497 points, T:2467, killed by an owlbear 12:33 submenus of submenus 12:34 pretty amazing 12:34 wewt 12:34 K2: i don't think i've seen that one. probably won't have time to look into it tonight 12:35 paxed no worries. thank you 12:35 <@based> @KS @aosdict thanks a bunch guys!! now to the invocation 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 525 points, T:950, killed by a giant bat 12:36 okay what the hell 12:36 I just saw an orc 12:37 as in literally a plain orc 12:37 omg 12:37 this a 3.6.2ism or... 12:37 :P 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 443 points, T:1514, killed by a little dog 12:37 and they had the shiny ring from the looted Mine Twon 12:37 Town* 12:38 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/783748917119680543/Screenshot_20201202-123734.png 12:40 plain orc could be a revived orc zombie 12:40 thats also how you can get plain elves 12:41 he was literally already on the floor 12:41 (and again, had Minetown loot) 12:41 plus I haven't even discovered undead turning 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) genocided mind flayers, on T:49233 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:49234 12:42 so unless someone managed some very specific shenanigans with bones I feel like this is a 3.6.2ism 12:42 I've had named orc zombies with Minetown stuff before so 12:42 oh orctown 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2000 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:49347 12:45 YesterbirthUmby: the code responsible for spawning the orcs that migrate below orctown is mtyp = rn2((PM_ORC_SHAMAN - PM_ORC) + 1) + PM_ORC; 12:45 i've come real close to dying a bunch in this game 12:45 which seems like it can pick PM_ORC as a valid choice 12:45 in the king's english, pls 12:45 o 12:45 single digit hp's a few times 12:46 YesterbirthUmby: rn2 can return 0, so if it does, mtyp = PM_ORC, the "plain" orc 12:46 maybe i should wear life saving 12:46 -!- AlbertB has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:47 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 12:48 -!- AlbertB has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:44364 12:51 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:51 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 12:52 there were two shiny rings among the loot spawned for orcs in an orctown game right? 12:53 umby where are you playing? 12:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given the Shield of Yggdrasil, on T:202052 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2667 12:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed the master key of thievery", on T:104442 12:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) became the Arm of the Law, on T:47952 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:2583 12:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 762 points, T:1959, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1614 points, T:2083, killed by a dagger 12:59 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:01 Yo 13:01 Another plain orc 13:01 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/783754686372642836/Screenshot_20201202-130055.png 13:01 in 4k this time 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonbane", on T:254 13:02 neat 13:02 aosdict: so was that thing a bug? 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 137 points, T:269, killed by a bolt of fire 13:02 with the burnt rotted quarterstaff as starting weapon lol 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2401 points, T:3159, killed by an arrow 13:02 <@based> ive had corroded two hand swords as a barb start in xnh before 13:03 when i mentioned this earlier aosdict seemed surprised 13:03 so i think its a bug 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3102 points, T:3313, killed by a winter wolf 13:04 * K2 likes surprises 13:06 lol 13:06 but K2 13:06 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ico Mal Cha) obtained the luckstone from Mines End, on T:4280 13:06 do you like surprise EvilHack bugs? 13:06 woot! gogogo amateurhour 13:06 <@Umby> bruh??? 13:06 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/783756058563706880/Screenshot_20201202-130633.png 13:07 eeeeew you're burdened 13:07 that's terrifying please stop that 13:07 <@based> damn aosdict that patch seems to have really mollified rodney 13:07 <@based> he's being a lot less aggressive now 13:08 <@based> even tho barely anything probably changed huh 13:08 variant paranoia 13:08 or in this case, commit paranoia 13:09 <@based> i saw you authored that nethack wiki page lol 13:09 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 700 points, T:1893, struck down by a rothe 13:09 aosdict: what about the bug tho 13:09 is it a bug 13:09 I fixed it 13:09 can i help in any way next time i start with 13:09 based can play now 13:09 ah ok 13:09 ;) 13:09 so no more rotted quarterstaff? 13:09 no more segfaults from nowhere 13:10 no you'll have to put up with rotted quarterstaffs until at least the end of the workday 13:10 ah ok 13:10 can i do anything useful if i start with one again 13:10 or is it not necessary to examine game dumps etc 13:10 pretty sure I know the cause. in vanilla items don't start eroded so there's no reason to exempt starting items from that 13:11 ok 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 366 points, T:1212, killed by a piranha 13:11 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ico Mal Cha) obtained the luckstone from Mines End, on T:4444 13:12 <@based> damn no magic lamp yet 13:12 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 32 points, T:352, done in by a jaguar 13:12 <@based> yeeting in the dark 13:12 starting items exist in this weird state where init=true and init=false are both somewhat correct for their mkobj calls 13:12 you don't want your sword to have a random enchantment, but you do want your ring of protection to 13:13 <@based> damn im running out of things to wish for in xnh of all places 13:15 well you could wish for a magic lamp 13:15 charm monster and cause fear in the same game 13:15 leggo 13:15 <@based> omg yeah a lamp 13:15 <@based> but im nearly done with gehennom anyways ... 13:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:104935 13:17 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 13:17 <@based> goodbye trusty guantlets of dex 13:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "greased magic marker", on T:104941 13:18 awesome, I just made the head orc-captain eat shit with a single skilled cold spell 13:18 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ico Mal Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:4677 13:19 !tell LarienTelrunya I lost my marauder's map somehow after invoking it, is that normal? 13:19 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, amateurhour. 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 385 points, T:1088, killed by a jumping spider 13:24 <@based> stormbringer better than grayswandir for astral? 13:25 <{Demo}> no 13:26 <{Demo}> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Stormbringer https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Grayswandir going based off avg dice here 13:26 <@based> hmm oki doki, i was thinking the life drain could help offset some damage but i guess at that points it probably not relevant 13:26 <@based> thanks! 13:27 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 13:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:105086 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1072 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1075 points, T:1080, killed by a dwarf 13:34 <@based> well thats bad 13:34 <@based> got my first smoky potion of the game in the sanctum 13:34 <@based> so excited i just blessed it and drank it 13:34 <@based> and it was a potion of polymorph 13:34 <@based> oops 13:34 <@based> this might be really bad 13:35 <@princessSpicycat> dddddddd'oh! 13:36 K2: looks like a cursed figurine trying to be generate a monster on coming back to a level ... and obj being corrupted? 13:36 <{Demo}> stale ptr 13:36 <{Demo}> id guess rather than corruption 13:37 <@based> wow this was a major fuckup 13:37 <@based> good bye t-shirt 13:38 <@based> okay i had a spare cloak of protection in the bag 13:39 <@based> jfc what a mess 13:39 {Demo}: 0x350007 looks quite odd for a pointer 13:39 <{Demo}> wheres the backtrace? 13:39 https://termbin.com/hkysa 13:40 <{Demo}> wonder what the rest of the timer looks like 13:42 <@based> wow well trying to turn my gray dragon scales back into gray dragon scale mail exploded my armor 13:42 <@based> im kinda sad 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 354 points, T:1337, killed by a wooden crossbow bolt 13:42 don't worry about it so much you can still succeed 13:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:105693 13:45 <@based> very clutch last wish in the game 13:47 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7050 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 11348 points, T:7510, killed by an incubus, while fainted from lack of food 13:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Conqueress, on T:105928 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 103 points, T:217, killed by a water demon 13:55 K2: oh, i this i know what's causing the problem. 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3094 13:55 bleh. i think* 13:55 K2: basically, i messed up, and i should've updated the edit level for the mild zombie apocalypse. those segfaults were in editlevel 23, right? 13:56 yes 13:57 K2: so, yeah. if someone is playing on that version, they'll almost certainly encounter that segfault 13:57 oof 13:57 can you make a hotfix? 13:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:49141 13:59 K2: probably not until the weekend... that's what people get for playing the bleeding edge. ;) 13:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:59 lol 13:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:00 ok :) 14:02 you just happened to update after the MZA, but before the patchlevel change ... 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:9880 14:02 could this be worked around for now by updating the version on hdf to edit level 23 before the zombie pocalypse patch 14:02 You see here a lamp (lit). 14:03 i found this in 3.7.0 14:03 is this intended? 14:03 rollback plans? we don't do those here amateurhour 14:03 stenno: there's a themed room that generates a lit light source iirc 14:03 oh 14:03 amateurhour: the timers in the saved file would be still wrong 14:03 that was the only thing in the room 14:03 kk 14:03 hopefully its magic 14:03 oh, that's because of the zombie apocalypse patch 14:03 ah, that's unfortunate 14:04 what about manual savefile surgery 14:04 stenno: since it's a "themed" type room, that will always be the only thing in the room 14:04 i see 14:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:106199 14:04 * aosdict hands amateurhour a hex editor 14:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:106204 14:04 <{Demo}> does the game not load? 14:05 it loads but crashes when they enter the level with the figurine Demo 14:05 <{Demo}> if it restores and crashes on the next turn, just restore it in a debugger and remove the timer entry 14:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 229 points, T:662, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:05 it was oil 14:05 but only games between October 21st and November 4th (or whenever you updated past c9ac5bc48) could be affected 14:05 -!- shadowcat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08 stenno: oh right it's always an oil lamp 14:08 checked themerms.lua 14:08 aw 14:08 good to know though, thanks 14:09 <{Demo}> gdb and a working restorable save is the ultimate save editor 14:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:33 (for the 10th time), on T:106625 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Ran Elf Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a rothe corpse, on T:3672 14:10 <{Demo}> and a copy of the nethack binary on question with symbols 14:11 orctown 14:12 it's cheating to change the save game while it's not a save game but only a state of the game 14:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 240 points, T:1734, killed by a small mimic 14:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 137 points, T:353, fell into a pit 14:15 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker named this machine writes spellbooks", on T:75023 14:15 <{Demo}> it's not the state of the game it's the state of the save editing tool that read the save of the game to a state more easy editable by it 14:15 <{Demo}> also the save editing tool happens to be nethack 14:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:107642 14:19 k2: time to update the dgl screen. it still says tnnt is running 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 368 points, T:2264, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:19 it's save game deserialization and serialization tool 14:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 406 points, T:1023, killed by a dwarf 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 18516 points, T:10708, poisoned by a soldier ant 14:22 hothraxxa no it doesnt 14:22 oh that 14:22 the MOTD 14:22 yes 14:22 damn you and your correctness 14:24 <{Demo}> bhaak you can actually edit the deserialized save using nothing but the nethack binary 14:24 <{Demo}> for example, if you wanna take an item off the invent list and put it on the current level object list at u.ux and u.uy, you can use the nethack binary built in features to drop it 14:24 <{Demo}> keep in mind this will call a lot of other functions as well and manipulate the save in other unknown ways 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 242 points, T:1402, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 14:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:21, killed by a fox 14:28 {Demo}: that's just convenience methods. real hackers flip the bits by exposing the chips to focused cosmic radiation 14:28 hothraxxa: fixed 14:29 -!- snes-nh has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:30 -!- snes-nh has joined #hardfought 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4711 14:35 <{Demo}> yeah i knew this discussion was bound to reach xkcd comic levels cause it started basically there 14:36 lol 14:36 NERDS 14:36 <3 14:38 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 14:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible dgoddard's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3655 14:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 276 points, T:636, killed by a large mimic 14:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:5 14:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:3779 14:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3895 14:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 wooden darts on an altar, on T:3899 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 5835 points, T:4202, killed by a white unicorn 14:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2708 points, T:2345, killed by a giant ant 14:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 102 points, T:628, killed by a water moccasin 14:51 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 224 points, T:808, killed by an iguana 14:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:111223 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:111241 14:58 <@based> always fucking neutral altar first 14:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:111313 15:00 -!- nimsumzero has joined #hardfought 15:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:111344 15:01 <@based> that was a nightmare 15:01 <@based> its finally over 15:01 gratz!!! 15:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Law), 2004600 points, T:111344, ascended (in dishonor) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/J/Jilvane/xnethack/dumplog/1606808404.xnh.html 15:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 6008 points, T:4885, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 15:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1322 15:02 <@based> welp that was stressful 15:03 <@based> plane of air and plane of fire nearly gave me an aneurism 15:03 grats @based 15:03 Geeg 15:03 congrats! 15:03 RIP your honor though 15:03 <@based> poor Set 15:03 <@based> every time its >Neutral altar then >Lawful 15:03 oh wow monsters with ranged weapons now keep their distance it sees 15:03 I mean, no, not congrats, you dishonorable scoundrel 15:03 <@based> noooo 15:03 thats super strange 15:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2740 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1126 points, T:2068, killed by a rothe 15:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:1797 15:07 bruh 15:07 hmm snickersnee or exca 15:08 well i have snickersnee now 15:08 <@based> exca too juicy 15:08 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 15:08 i guess 15:08 my long sword is +1 too which outbalances the katana damage buff 15:08 <@based> @aosdict is it normal for force_invmenu to not work properly with a lot of nethack functions in xnethack? 15:08 what a pity 15:09 <@based> like, with force_invmenu on, i cant quaff from fountains or eat corpses from the ground or apply a wand to break it 15:09 <@based> but if i disable force_invmenu, well, all that good stuff functions 15:09 @based congrats! feels good yeah? especially overcoming the issues you had 15:09 <@based> yeah feels really nice, a bit stingy about the dishonorable part haha 15:09 heh 15:09 hey whatever works 15:10 <@based> went through : wetting my entire bag of holding contents and diluting it, polymorphing and breaking my armor in the sanctum and getting all the four GG rings exploded by some shocking spheres 15:10 <@based> oh yeah and no gold detection scroll on the plane of fire 15:10 <@based> that one was really meaty 15:10 <@based> but it feels succesful 15:12 <@based> weeeew 15:12 <@based> well now onto notdnethack or dynahack 15:12 :) 15:12 -!- uruwi has joined #hardfought 15:12 <@based> xnethack was a blast tho 15:13 yeah its a fun variant 15:13 i've played it a few times 15:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:50538 15:14 -!- snes-nh has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:15 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:15 -!- snes-nh has joined #hardfought 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4211 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4211 15:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a fire ant corpse, on T:3087 15:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3199 15:20 now i have to decide 15:20 snickersnee or exca 15:20 scrollback- Congrats Jilvane! 15:20 guess its still exca 15:20 wew 3000 turns of veganism 15:20 are you playing on your phone? 15:20 me? no 15:21 no umby 15:21 i always want to watch them play 15:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3375 15:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 29 points, T:117, killed by a fox 15:22 <@based> @rebatela thankkkkks 15:23 @based I've had problems with force_invmenu since merging the getobj patch, and they will hopefully go away once I remove the getobj patch 15:23 @based how often did you win so far? 15:23 <@based> 1 ascension in TNNT, 1 celestial disgrace (my "first" ascension) and xnethack is my first variant ascension 15:23 <@based> otherwise well 15:23 <@based> winrate isnt looking so good 15:23 well thats still good 15:24 <@based> @aosdict awesome thanks for the answer! 15:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 134 points, T:273, killed by a hobbit 15:25 got flipped soko 3 in soko 2 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7371 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] lonefox256 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 534 points, T:1873, killed by a little dog 15:25 at least i think its 3 lol 15:26 <@based> flipped sokoban is a WeirdChamp for me 15:26 nope, 2b 15:26 flipped soko is a GachiGASM for me 15:26 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26 goddamn mines mongen 15:26 why am I facing air eles at XL9 15:27 in depth 15:27 base level 8 15:27 you're in depth :[ 15:28 spellcasting without eota sucks... Just going to be more turns. i just rest all the time 15:28 <@based> gotta charge up dat PWR 15:28 oh snap i could have wished for the priest artifact 15:28 forgot i'm lawful 15:28 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 15:30 mitre's kinda meh tbh 15:30 though this depends, whatcha playin 15:30 troll with a wand of sleep 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:50371 15:32 [hdf-eu] [nh343] JochenPeter (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword named Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7665 15:32 yeah mitre is meh agreed, but I wished for a helm of brilliance anyway... I'm playing a lawful giant monk 15:33 mitre is nice for spellcasters 15:33 giant 15:33 if i splat, i'll wish for it next time for sure 15:33 wait which variant 15:33 evil 15:33 kk 15:33 yhou can wish for quest artis in evil? 15:33 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:33 even more non-evilness 15:33 yeah 15:34 but you have to fight the quest leader 15:34 oh 15:34 (chance of it) 15:34 oh, ok 15:34 no 15:34 well, thats appropriate 15:34 you'll get the quest leader 15:34 what did i say? 15:34 other artifacts, there's a good chance of gettong the owner (NPC) 15:34 quest artifacts are different than other artifacts 15:35 but thats what rebatela said :D 15:35 its not a chance 15:35 ah! 15:35 you WILL get the quest leader 15:35 the leader, eh 15:35 not the nemesis 15:35 correct 15:35 kk 15:35 it used to be the nemesis 15:35 like, in vanilla i wish for eota all the time if i have 40hp... You can't do that in evil because neferet will smoke you 15:35 there are some insane quest leaders 15:35 but quest leader made more sense, plus they are stringer 15:35 stronger 15:35 right 15:35 neferet is worse than rodney lol 15:36 heh 15:36 Dunno, having to figh Master Kaen if you wish for the Eye seems pretty tough. 15:36 at that stage of the game at least 15:36 priest leader is 'arch priest' 15:36 Weapon 4d10, kick 2d8, spell-casting (clerical), spell-casting (clerical) 15:36 yeah kaen is probably the worst 15:36 i always play monk tho 15:36 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 15:36 kaen is eoto, not eota 15:36 <@based> @aosdict i wish i had read the changelog line that ascending in dishonor is possible.... i couldve cut through some more archons and Death to ascend for lord Set! 15:36 stenno - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/monst.c#L4045 15:37 two clerical spellcasting at base level 25 is pretty much rip 15:37 Oh, right, the Eyes, not the Eye. 15:37 twoflower is kind of a pushover (ignore this k2 thanks) for pyec 15:37 Yes, Twoflower is a wuss. 15:37 fucking clericals 15:37 and then you get mr and can deal with neferet lol 15:38 that's why i try to do when i play neutral 15:38 EPI: if you wish for the Platinum Card, you have to fight _all_ the quest leaders. For every role. 15:38 heh 15:38 sometimes i'll wish for the eye and just leave her and the eye on like DL2 and come back when i can fight 15:39 Neferet the Green appears next to you in a cloud of smoke! 15:39 yeah it sucks man 15:39 lol 15:39 so the 'arch priest' might be genetared with comr with the same chance as a high priest? 15:39 "So thou thought thou couldst evade me, fool." 15:39 very cool addition though, k2. makes it hella fun 15:39 generated* 15:39 o/ 15:39 good balance or whatever 15:39 yeah that is pretty epic 15:39 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 15:39 makes you think twice 15:39 also never in the early game unless you have some trick imte 15:39 item 15:40 got the code initially from slicehack (fork of splicehack) and significantly expanded/changed it) 15:40 @based This annoyance over the entirely cosmetic string "(in dishonor)" is exactly what I was going for. Doesn't change the fact that you ascended, scoreboards should track it as a win, but it's stained nevertheless :) 15:40 stenno: exactly. there's ways to do it even if you're a weak character if you're clever 15:40 its a little bit like challenge in TNNT 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3487 15:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12872 15:41 stenno, even naming sting or orcrist has consequences 15:41 * aosdict checks nethackscoreboard to make sure it IS being tracked as a win 15:41 oh boy 15:41 ok yes 15:41 sting summons bilbo? 15:41 not like wishing for a quest artifact 15:41 hobbit with mithril 15:41 stenno: group of elves 15:41 blerp 15:41 they're all like 'wtf dude' 15:41 lol 15:41 :) 15:41 what if you're T:1 elf ran 15:41 are they like "oh hi dude" 15:42 aosdict well it used to be just one elf that appeared 15:42 and {Demo} could reliably kill them off as a lvl 1 ranger 15:42 so its now a small group 15:42 and tougher elves 15:42 because rangers are elite 15:42 <{Demo}> oh yeah that was a funny strat 15:42 yeah but my question was are they peaceful 15:43 <{Demo}> to steal their gear 15:43 stenno you should play gnomish ranger in evilhack 15:43 ask me why :P 15:43 why 15:43 a level 5ish wiz could probably still kill em off 15:43 because instead of the longbow of diana you get the crossbow of carl 15:43 lul 15:43 i'm not kidding :) 15:43 who is carl? 15:43 seems like an interesting side strat, not because you want sting but because you want elf gear 15:43 carl is just this guy, you know? 15:43 does it give reflection too or is it actually sensible 15:43 ah, fair 15:43 don't nerf more pls K2 15:44 actually useful #invoke or is it just like Longbow 15:44 <{Demo}> aosdict, they dont always come when it was named 15:44 <{Demo}> with doing it on t1, u can just startscum for it 15:44 stenno it mirrors the specs of the longbow, other than 1) its a crossbow and 2) it produces bolts 15:44 kk 15:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:42578 15:44 aosdict: was it you who suggested that longbow #invoke comes pre-IDed? 15:44 really liked that one 15:45 It was fun playing gnome ranger with Carl :-) 15:45 K2: mirrors, I see what you did there 15:45 and {Demo} is correct, naming sting/orcrist doesnt always come with its elven keepers 15:45 aosdict :) 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3917 15:45 -!- snes-nh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45 mobileuser \o/ 15:45 Multishot max 5 I think? 15:45 -!- snes-nh has joined #hardfought 15:45 elvenkings get multishot max 5 15:46 if you can tame an elf lo- 15:46 that 15:46 i thought it was 2+d6 15:46 er 15:46 2+d5 15:46 stenno: they attack other stuff at range if they're pets? 15:46 I don't think I ever saw a monster shoot 6 or 7 of anything 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3971 15:46 pets use their ranged attacks now, no? 15:46 stenno - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/39afb22a5cbec0cee60b1133ef39df514657d4b4 15:46 or is that just for dragons 15:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:52004 15:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:13020 15:47 i think the problem is that tame elves will not pick up arrows or something like that 15:48 stenno: i don't know if you've ever paid attention to one of my ascensions, but carl is my frequent ascension companion 15:48 he's a woodchuck 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 43 points, T:235, killed by a water moccasin 15:48 neat 15:48 aah hehe 15:48 you might have met him in the dev team office 15:48 K2: like all the changes of the fucking hardcoded artifact code 15:48 hothraxxa: yeah 15:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2877 15:49 heh 15:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 744 points, T:2207, killed by a dingo 15:49 where is the 'pet shoots things' code? is it still mhitu? 15:49 er 15:49 mhitm 15:49 mthrowu? 15:50 its mfuku 15:50 :P 15:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Mother Hydra, on T:52033 15:50 mfukubar 15:50 but yeah mthrowu i believe 15:50 thats not a thing 15:50 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/tree/NetHack-3.7/src 15:51 oh it is, i am blind 15:51 k2: do giants have aggravate monster from the getgo or did i eat a giant cat or something? 15:51 get go 15:51 lava gremlin? are these new? 15:51 oh ok 15:51 yes 15:51 thank @riker for those 15:51 <@based> gremlins DansGame 15:51 lol ok i will 15:52 i love them 15:52 i geno them 15:52 :b 15:52 <@based> seems like gremlins always find a way to the wizards tower water or medusas 15:52 they multiply in lava and they steal intrinsics during the day instead of night time 15:52 and they are cudley 15:52 reallllly warm 15:52 lol 15:53 i might be genociding too.. 15:53 wuss 15:53 :D 15:53 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 15:53 next up in evilhack: lava gremlins become ungenocidable 15:53 right? lol 15:53 nah 15:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:52038 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) genocided two random monsters from class g, on T:50671 15:54 oh no 15:54 that didn't work at all 15:54 ok so we start with 1, is_lord +1, elven arrow +1, elven bow +1, +2 assuming +7 enchantment 15:54 oops 15:54 <@based> uh oh 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) genocided lava gremlins, on T:50672 15:54 thats d6 15:54 <@luxidream> finally, something to punish people playing nethack during the day 15:54 +1 because of elf 15:54 <@based> sweaty gamer playing 10 hours of nethack without a break 15:54 d7 15:54 <@based> thats the new life 15:55 which other g did you geno rebatela? 15:55 d6+1 15:55 gargoyles and the winged variety (not on purpose) 15:55 whats multishot_class_bonus? 15:55 so, more regular gremlins probably now 15:56 ok nothing 15:56 can you make gain energy with alchemy? this PW thing is getting to me 15:56 so 1+d6 multishot for an elven lord with +7 elven bow and elven arrows 15:56 aosdict: ^ i think 15:56 yeah that is the only g left 15:56 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 15:56 they seem to be the rarest potions 15:57 just poly potions ;-) 15:57 i don't care about turncount, but all this resting is spawning monsters 15:57 yeah i guess i could poly water 15:58 im going to start playing priests again.. That was what i used to always play. You can level up so easily in the quest (like, way beyond 30) and get crazy PW (plus the mitre) 15:59 <@based> for me, its the barb. bonk hard, a quest so easy you can do it with your eyes closed, and a quest artifact so bad it makes me wanna keep my eyes closed. also uhh poison res 16:00 YANI: increase player max level from 30 to 50 16:00 smop 16:00 <@luxidream> the quest artifact really isn't that bad 16:00 soooo many assumptions that max level is 30 16:00 or go ad&d old school style, no limit 16:01 <@based> well true. it can be free levitation if youre screwed for dusa's and castle and its a straight upgrade from the normal luckstone 16:01 how is max level currently not 30 for player 16:01 <@based> and uhh stealth (that barb gets for free....) 16:01 <@based> why does the barb quest artifact grant stealth when he gets stealth 16:01 <@luxidream> better than the tsurugi imo 16:01 tsurugi is pretty cool tho 16:01 <@based> i cant even fathom getting tsurugi after fighting Kaen 16:01 <@based> i cant even fathom getting tsurugi after fighting Kaen 16:02 K2: I think "beyond 30" means getting to 30 and then still having a pile of wraith corpses to eat for more maxHP and Pw 16:02 its curse resistant right? 16:02 but I'm not sure how you get that in the priest quest unless you're agonizingly luring them all out of the quest 16:02 <@luxidream> since it's worse than 2wep there's little reason to use it 16:02 <@luxidream> I leave it in the box with sato 🙂 16:03 hmm 16:03 aosdict: spam create monster on the home level 16:03 i assume sam can get expert in twoweap? 16:03 yes stenno 16:03 <@based> yeah kinda odd that sam gets expert two weapon but quest arti is a ... two hand sword 16:04 lol giantslayer 16:04 it's... not trollsbane and I could always use more STR 16:04 when I get giants to actually spawn anyway 16:04 trollsbane would be cool if it gave hungerless regen 16:05 Doesn't it do that in one of the variants? 16:06 dnethack? unnethack? 16:06 Not sure. 16:06 at least in unnethack and sporkhack 16:06 fiqhack as well 16:06 In Fourk, trollsbane provides light when wielded, instapetrifies trolls, and instakills gremlins. 16:07 Which still doesn't make it the greatest weapon in the game, but at least it's the best against trolls. 16:07 typo'd into reading scroll of destroy armor, oof 16:07 i blame flipped soko for no apparent reason 16:07 legit 16:07 and I throw. 16:07 <@based> aw dang 16:07 somehow mispalced MBane, bag of tricks horded me, I just completely blew it from there. 16:07 jonadab how's next version of fourk coming along 16:07 <--- want 16:08 * jonadab whistles innocently. 16:08 less whistling, more data 16:08 :P 16:09 You're just worried I won't get it save-stable in time for the annual master-branch freeze. 16:09 the devteam disease is rarely curable 16:09 my pet just attacked a cockatrice 16:09 why 16:09 bhaak: Eh, I managed to sit silently on about six months worth of progress on Fourk, telling no one, and then announce it on April 1st. 16:09 The chickatrice misses Bro... Bro.. hits the chickatrice. Bro.. turns to stone! You fall off of Bro..! 16:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a woodchuck, on T:19208 16:10 Granted, that was way back at the beginning. 16:10 Who can say if I'm still capable of keeping any actual progress under my hat? 16:10 hmm 16:10 was the soko code changed? 16:10 jonadab you've been master branch freeze for 3 years 16:10 this is a surprisingly weak soko zoo 16:10 i'm not worried about anything 16:10 can i cast drain life at dragonbane or it's a lost cause? 16:11 game owes you a mulligan after the steed code fucked you like that 16:11 K2: well, the issue right now is that the bleeding-edge branch isn't stable enough to put on master branch. 16:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1376 points, T:2104, killed by a blue jelly 16:11 uh, don't think drain life is reflectable 16:11 If I could solve that by early January... 16:11 feel like that'd fall under player-style MR? 16:11 * YesterbirthUmby shrugs 16:11 it's not that it's reflectable it's that the artifact resists 16:11 is it 90% or 99% that it resists? 16:11 oh well. plus 4 is fine i need divine protection i guess 16:12 you lower AC with drain life??? 16:12 yeah i feel like i've drained magicbane in vanilla though 16:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 81131 points, T:19329, killed by a death ray 16:12 no i was casting it at +4 dragonbane to bring to +3 so i can read blessed enchant armor 16:12 it worked quite well on the speed boots 16:13 it resists at 90% 16:13 my AC is -31 16:13 yeah but that's armor, I never knew that worked 16:13 it works.. but artifacts resist a lot 16:13 TIL 16:14 fuuuu 16:14 reflectoban 16:14 thats a miss 16:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5422 16:14 so hard to get AC as a giant 16:14 what do you do mobileuser? 16:14 smoky booze 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6167 16:14 best possible outcome imho 16:15 oh wait, Dragonbane can be de-enchanted by engraving, right? 16:15 the first one i ascended i had +20. I only have the +9 so far 16:15 Yeah most weapons can 16:15 it's gloves in evilhack muad 16:15 not a weapon 16:15 o 16:15 oh whoops :D 16:15 well as giant samurai I will be able to wear mithril large splint mail at some point 16:15 if you're playing even then RIP 16:16 plus quest arti gives half phys damage 16:16 dragonhide gloves that grant reflection and acid resistance (waaaayy better than vanilla sword or whatever it is) 16:16 oh and it gives you telepathy on dragons on the level too 16:16 also warn of dragons and have passive damage to dragons if they hit you 16:16 boom 16:16 i love it 16:17 My giant barb had AC:-30 at asc 16:17 oh ok 16:17 i have a bunch of wishes. going to nurse dance and get the hp up 16:18 5 wishes. 5 markers? 16:18 giants get massive HP growth bonus anyway, plus regen 16:18 why bother? 16:18 yeah that's true 16:19 it's noticeable too. I'm always at full health 16:19 but when you're getting your ass kicked... 16:19 i've almost died a bunch in this game 16:23 ohhh it's a BABY black dragon (they still mess up your stuff right?) 16:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:6372 16:24 -!- snes-nh has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:6533 16:24 -!- snes-nh has joined #hardfought 16:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 135 points, T:490, killed by an electric shock 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2633 points, T:2127, zombified by a diseased hobbit corpse, while praying 16:28 [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Val Swn Fem Law) averted death, on T:5382 16:28 You hear the roaring of a confused bear! 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2675 16:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Val Swn Fem Law), 10836 points, T:5389, killed by a potion of acid 16:29 ugh don't even have the heart to continue after blowing that good ass run 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3754 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 91 points, T:692, killed by a boiling potion 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3947 16:34 <@based> @Umby i know that feel 16:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a steel kabuto entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:35307 16:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 24 points, T:42, killed by a goblin 16:35 gonna have to altar camp for Dragonbane at some point... 16:35 <@based> altar camping and ring of slow digestion 16:36 <@based> thats when the game takes +10000 turns for me 16:36 heh 16:37 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:37 uh, got a polykit 16:39 gonna piss around on ATT some I guess, afking 16:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 220859 points, T:24556, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:4484 16:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 566 points, T:1100, killed by a dart 16:46 [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Val Swn Fem Law), 2319 points, T:2031, killed by a small aklys 16:47 "peaceful human samurai called Dave the Ryoshu" maybe I will "accidentally" throw something at him... 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4698 points, T:4540, killed by a rothe 16:48 <{Demo}> tnnt yani, the guild of gruntled adventurers 16:48 <{Demo}> a reference to this, but theres like some chill npcs that do something???? https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_Guild_of_Disgruntled_Adventurers 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:47555 16:48 that floor is turboawful in slashem and slex 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed fadein's ghost, the former Warrior, on T:47584 16:49 <{Demo}> uhhhhhhhhhhh 16:49 <{Demo}> theres bad shit that happened to that wiki page 16:50 <{Demo}> some guy added jedi and apadawan on there but this is a SLEM article 16:50 <{Demo}> not slashthem 16:50 <{Demo}> where do i submit tickets for the wiki being bad? 16:50 <{Demo}> like content wise 16:50 it's a wiki 16:50 to yourself of course 16:50 <{Demo}> no 16:50 <{Demo}> im not starting an edit war 16:51 let's keep it then 16:51 <{Demo}> ok, not my wiki 16:51 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 16:51 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:51 Isn't jedi in regular slash'em? 16:52 <{Demo}> no 16:53 <{Demo}> im less goodly articulated, therefore if an edit war starts i will lose 16:53 <{Demo}> so i avoid that at all costs 16:53 can i safely dig down in a shop after i paid for everything? 16:53 i think they get mad? 16:54 can't remember 16:54 yeah i think so too 16:54 -!- snes-nh has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:54 kill him (that's what i do) 16:54 I mean if they're straight up wrong and you're correcting them I don't think you'd "lose" any edit wars that would result 16:54 also yes p. sure they still get mad 16:54 you don't just dig through people's doors 16:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +3 grayswandir", on T:586 16:55 <{Demo}> the truth never matters 16:55 {Demo}: the editor in question was Gus Van, who is the guy that claimed he knew slex better than me despite not having glanced at the source. read: he has no clue at all. I edited the page :P 16:55 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2020-12-02 11:57 EST: yaslexi "crash bug" x class monster that is a summonable nasty and crashes the game 16:55 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-12-02 13:19 EST: I lost my marauder's map somehow after invoking it, is that normal? 16:55 actually I think i had a monster dig down in a shop once and the guy got mad at me 16:55 <{Demo}> just what people say 16:55 -!- snes-nh has joined #hardfought 16:55 rebatela: i am _very_ lawful 16:55 <{Demo}> if he has prettier nicer words than me it doesnt matter 16:56 oh. I'm not. I'm playing lawful like a chaotic lol 16:56 <{Demo}> thanks for being a raging bitch amy <3 16:56 by that defeatist logic if someone has prettier nicer words than them and they took your side based on facts 16:56 :V 16:56 !tell amateurhour that can happen sometimes, I'm not sure how it's caused and I know Demo will claim it's a bug, but I consider it a feature that makes sure the map doesn't become too OP :P 16:56 amateurhour shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 16:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:670 16:56 NOOOOOOOOOOO 16:56 SO DUMB 16:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 75942 points, T:8947, killed by a priest of Brigit 16:56 man that was a 100% 16:56 so fucking dumb man 16:56 why was i wearing =oConf 16:57 so fucking stupid 16:57 fuck fuck 16:57 {Demo}: you're welcome, I'm in fact in a bad mood today, the regulary authorities wanted to charge me 50 euros today for behaving like a completely normal human! 16:57 <{Demo}> idk what they are regularying but fuckem 16:57 man that is super frustrating 16:57 apparently it's now prohibited by law to eat a pizza in public in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate 16:57 so fucking dumb 16:57 !lastgame stenno 16:57 YesterbirthUmby: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1606938817.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 16:57 <{Demo}> isnt that from starwars 16:57 that was a 100% 16:58 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:2229 16:58 !tell LarienTelrunya :( 16:58 amateurhour: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2020-12-02 16:56 EST: that can happen sometimes, I'm not sure how it's caused and I know Demo will claim it's a bug, but I consider it a feature that makes sure the map doesn't become too OP :P 16:58 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, amateurhour. 16:58 what was 100%? 16:58 ascension 16:59 UNLESS i do something really stupid 16:59 which i did 16:59 so now i am dead and i don't have an ascension 16:59 :c 16:59 fucking dumb man 16:59 <@based> aww dude dammit 16:59 I know the feeling 16:59 <@based> thats not the way to go.. 16:59 <@based> 😦 17:00 refl, speed boots, tonal, /oDig, =oConflict, ?oCharging 17:00 polykit 17:00 next dig i would have been castle 17:01 maybe next game i get a bag, that would be nice 17:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:708 17:01 <@based> bagless-until-castle games are cruel 17:02 indeed 17:02 otoh reflection saved my ass a few times 17:02 but i found "oR before soko 17:02 Amy if you're there, what does the bossfight stone do again? 17:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] OhNoNotAgain (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 236 points, T:1303, killed by a giant mimic 17:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed orb of fate", on T:710 17:03 amateurhour: IIRC makes it so that random boss monsters spawn 20 times more often 17:03 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-12-02 16:58 EST: :( 17:03 ah, I should get rid of it then 17:03 they'll still be somewhat more rare, but not as rare as before 17:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 24816 points, T:5849, killed by a homunculus 17:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:947 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 770 points, T:2611, killed by a giant mosquito 17:06 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 2818 points, T:3127, defeated by a rothe 17:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Val Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:7284 17:07 -!- snes-nh has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 cloak of protection", on T:948 17:08 -!- snes-nh has joined #hardfought 17:09 a morning star named Trollsbane0 17:10 <@based> 7rollsbane 17:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 806 points, T:3145, killed by a rothe 17:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 2183 points, T:1807, killed by a quasit of the Devil 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10109 17:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1389 17:14 hmm, a secret attack stone 17:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1556 17:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:15 !booze 17:15 * Beholder hands nabru a barrel of suds, prayed over by NotTheOracle\dnt at 143 degrees Fahrenheit. 17:16 amateurhour: all those autocursing stones are generally bad, because they mimic nasty traps; where are you getting them all from? (not watching right now, busy) 17:16 the boss one I got from something in ruggo's lair, this one was forcibly given to me by a throne 17:17 if this is some kind of nasty trap effect I should get rid of it asap then 17:17 !lastgame stenno 17:17 nimsumzero: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1606938817.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 17:17 well you know that it is a secret attack stone, so you can probably access the description ;) 17:17 oh yeah true 17:18 stone that curses itself and causes monsters to use secret attacks. 17:18 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 17:18 to the ground it goes :) 17:18 careful, if you drop those gray stones on the ground, weapon-using intelligent monsters can pick them up, throw them back at you, and they'll end up going into your inventory, cursed, where they'll trouble you some more! 17:19 ah, next time I'll drop it in the wall 17:19 :D 17:19 thanks for the tip! 17:19 usually when I manage to uncurse one and want to get rid of it, I bury it in a pit by using a boulder 17:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3021 17:20 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Pir Gno Fem Neu), 50 points, T:141, dispatched by a sewer rat 17:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] OhNoNotAgain (Bar Orc Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1320 17:21 okay I think I can watch for a bit, although I need to go to bed soon 17:21 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:22 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Con Orc Fem Cha), 4 points, T:44, killed by a kobold 17:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3443 17:24 it'll probs be a little boring as I just got to sokoban :P 17:25 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Con Vam Fem Cha), 70 points, T:413, mowed down by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 17:25 ah there's a wouwou monster of some form 17:25 could be one of the things across the bars 17:26 probably a hc sausage (brown %) 17:26 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 17:26 those things are nasty 17:27 yep, especially if you have no MC 17:27 ah no soko prize for me I'm guessing 17:27 :/ 17:27 was really hoping for reflection, though it's a lower chance in slex anyway I'm guessing 17:28 maybe 45% or so if the final level did generate 17:28 aren't there like 8 rewards? 17:28 yeah but the two vanilla ones are much more common than the other ones 17:28 ah right, that's nice to know 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1665 points, T:6019, killed by a dwarf lord 17:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2512 17:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] OhNoNotAgain (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2080 17:35 -!- YesterbirthUmby has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:38 -!- YesterbirthUmby has joined #hardfought 17:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 538 points, T:1721, killed by a dwarf 17:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2864 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2455 17:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3274 17:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3297 17:42 oh shit 17:42 ou break out of your armor! 17:42 wait that was my sdsm..... 17:43 ok rip 17:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 146 points, T:454, killed by a gnome 17:44 :/ 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3219 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:12594 17:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 6086 points, T:3721, killed by a gargoyle 17:47 jesus fuck man 17:47 $lastgame stenno 17:47 !lastgame stenno 17:47 stenno: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1606946475.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 17:47 the throws are insane 17:47 well i lost my armor 17:47 -!- YesterbirthUmby has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:47 throwing games left and right like a fucking dumbbass 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1469 points, T:3120, killed by a gnome lady 17:48 K2: getting 403 forbidden on my dumplog, does it take some time sometimes? 17:48 60 sec or less 17:48 kk 17:49 i just sat down, good timing 17:49 for what? 17:49 oh, my question? 17:49 i just got home 17:49 aah ok 17:50 sorry for disturbing your peace then 17:51 you didnt 17:51 'good timing' 17:52 oki 17:52 hmm, the air crysta 17:52 at this point i would throw an earlywow game 17:52 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 384 points, T:991, killed by a dwarf 17:53 amateurhour: very useless artifact, sadly 17:54 lol you managed to anger the one shopkeeper with that magic missile 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6632 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5149 17:54 not that it matters much since you left the level anyway 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:6642 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:6673 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13601 17:55 [hdf-eu] [slshm] Thagomizer (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 4860 points, T:5248, killed by a snow ant 17:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1145 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5363 17:55 alas, I need to get some sleep now. see you and good luck ;) 17:55 sleep well 17:55 I need to sleep as well 17:56 thanks! good night to you too then :) 17:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:59 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:02 dead 18:02 nope 18:02 thanks lugh 18:02 [hdf-us] [sp] cilantro (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 10501 points, T:4374, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hill orc 18:03 [hdf-eu] [slshm] Thagomizer (Bar Lyc Fem Cha), 436 points, T:579, killed by a kitten 18:03 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:07 oh no i went up the stairs to demogorgon level but i'm not on the stairs 18:08 i'm kinda screwed 18:09 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11 ahh that sucked 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law), 1010934 points, T:52628, killed by Demogorgon 18:11 sigh 18:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 4042 points, T:3615, killed by a gargoyle 18:12 yeah like i was saying next time i'll wish for mitre 18:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 117 points, T:270, killed by a bear trap 18:13 lul 18:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 231 points, T:420, killed by a gnome lord 18:15 * stenno takes a short break... 18:15 lol 18:15 i promise you i'm more frustrated 18:15 not even frustrated anymore 18:15 early wand in evil? i should have ascended that 18:16 some zen-like grinding mode took over 18:16 ooh ouch :( 18:16 demo 18:16 oh well 18:16 killed by demo 18:16 how did he kill you? 18:16 at least it wasn't a bear trap... 18:16 :I 18:16 i screwed up 18:16 i went to drop the bell on VS level and went up forgetting that that's his lair 18:16 and i wasn't on the stiars 18:16 couldn't leave 18:16 blep 18:17 is he like in dnethack? 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8045 18:17 so i was able to go down but he followed and i still couldn't teleport 18:17 that's how things are in 3.7 i think too 18:17 demonic forces 18:17 oh shit 18:17 if the boss is on the level it's no tele 18:17 on any level, it seems 18:18 even if you dig down etc. 18:18 but he can still tele? 18:18 yeah 18:18 oh yeah 18:18 blep 18:18 they do whatever lol 18:18 in unnethack its like, notele counts for all monsters iirc 18:18 for the player and for the monsters 18:18 they warp right to you 18:19 man. i won't get another WoW for thousands of games 18:19 have you won evil already? 18:19 yeah 18:19 did you get early wow too? 18:19 but no one has done lawful giant monk 18:19 oh i see 18:19 no i've never found a wand in the early game 18:19 i've ascended 4 times 18:19 2 giants 2 humans 18:20 well then you dont _need_ a wow to ascend then :P 18:20 thats why i tell myself in those situations 18:20 no of course not 18:20 hehe 18:20 who even eeds this shit 18:20 it's just frustrating to die with 5 wishes... 18:20 in vanilla i would have wished up a c corpse 18:20 but i think in evil he would just cast stone to flesh 18:21 its not instastone 18:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 428 points, T:1068, killed by a brown mold 18:21 ah 18:22 you need to play :) 18:22 it's really fun 18:22 yeah but i want to play 3.7.9 18:22 right now 18:22 i believe you 18:22 i hear ya 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8597 18:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3587 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:8671 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:8685 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 28004 points, T:8697, killed by a lizard 18:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3883 18:27 I'm not sure how you're going to get to play 3.7.9 18:27 imagine paranoid_walk_into_known_trap 18:27 who needs imagination when you have https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/259 18:28 now i need the imagination that your PRs get actually merged 18:28 i probably should have fought him. I was too busy trying to escape 18:28 i don't understand DT sometimes 18:28 aosdict: what happened to your mega PR? 18:29 stenno: one was taken apart piecemeal and mostly has been merged 18:29 maybe we should all comment on your PRs like 'yeah, this is a really good idea' 18:29 aah great 18:29 the other one has not seen much attention 18:29 iirc 18:29 first: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/265#issuecomment-701680777 18:30 second: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/284 18:32 I wish that pets saw each other go into traps tbh 18:32 i like the 'always give message when hero teleports 18:32 Just had this very absurd moment that required playing through my tty where apparently right by the stairs there was a level teleporter and all of my pets (including an archon and archlich) apparently walked into it 18:33 whats newcham() ? 18:35 stenno: the second one is basically a laundry list of all the xnethack stuff that is readily vanilla compatible 18:35 and that I thought would be a good fit 18:35 pets see the hero go into traps, right? 18:36 rebatela: yes, they do, I think 18:36 my impression is that they just know what you know 18:36 they seem to yeah 18:36 so I am going to dl 1 and just gonna go back down to dl 40 I guess 18:37 looking for your archon? that sucks 18:37 cause there is no way I'm losing this run to an archon named after my mom lmafo 18:37 i've had that happen 18:37 i don't have the patience for pets. But archons, titans etc. are the best 18:37 force bolt destroy iron bars, nice 18:37 I once got a green dragon pet from a polytrap, it was wild 18:37 ahh nice to know. i was wondering about that earlier because acid was smoky in that game 18:38 allow player to wish for magic lamp // i bet that one's controversial 18:38 invisible Archon called Tina, wielding silver long sword named Demonbane 18:38 that wasn't so hard 18:38 nabru: yeah that's the easiest way to get a solid pet 18:38 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:38 @copperwater 18:38 I love pets, for some reason 18:38 nice 18:38 Green slime now has an engulfing sliming attack 18:38 nou 18:38 but you will need a magic whistle which might not be easy to find 18:38 i guess it makes then a bit more of a threat 18:38 yeah.. magic whistle is required 18:39 yeah, magic whistles really enable the pet strategy. the leaves work in a pinch though 18:39 Polymorph traps disappear when they successfully polymorph something 18:39 yes please 18:39 noooo 18:39 oh yeah eucalptus 18:39 they are so rare tho 18:39 they heal sickness too. I knew about the whistle thing long before i knew about the sickness cure 18:39 Wearing a ring of regeneration makes it known and prints a message // nice convenience 18:39 but i guess they can be rotten and knock you out 18:39 I did not realize they cured sickness 18:39 wishing for magic lamp is not *that* controversial 18:40 Hallucination always blocks floating eye gaze // sounds nice 18:40 <{Demo}> haikus? 18:40 most of the arguments I've seen against it have not really understood math 18:40 I really don't see the problem of wishing for a magic lamp 18:40 some variants have lots of trees and that makes them more accessible 18:40 You're just delaying a wish 18:40 i'm so mad 18:40 wishing for a magic lamp just lets you turn throne wishes and stuff into something portable 18:40 Scale monster group size based on dungeon level, not character level // why this one? 18:40 have a good night y'all 18:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:40 aw man reb- 18:40 'night 18:40 !date 18:40 !time 18:40 nabru: Wed Dec 2 18:40:58 2020 EST 18:41 <{Demo}> slashing when you talk // makes it look like a haiku // even when it's not 18:41 !who 18:41 its like a comment 18:41 nabru: [hdf-us] BoisterousSloth [evil] oh6 [nh370] UniDuck [nh370] brandon [nh370] samiam [nh370] spleen [nh370] tsingi [nh370] hothraxxa [un] nekochan [spl] KaiHerd [dnh] | [hdf-eu] stenno [nh370] Glord [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 18:41 stenno: because why does it make sense that fewer monsters will spawn for a minscoring/pacifist XL1 character than will spawn for a level-grinding one 18:41 player XL is used in a lot of places it really shouldn't 18:42 {Demo}: excellent 18:42 including, as we saw earlier, how many nasties the wizard summons 18:42 is he gonna go nice on you because he sees you're low level? 18:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4377 18:42 hmm i see 18:43 wait wasn't there this ludicrous bug 18:43 with summon nasty and the wizard who summoned like a bazillion nasties 18:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3491 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 79730 points, T:29045, killed by a displacer beast 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14793 18:54 <@nabru> !coffee 18:54 * Beholder pours @nabru a tumbler of Blend 43, conjured by FCCBot at 89 degrees Celsius. 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 902 points, T:2122, killed by a gnome lord 18:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3631 18:57 It took like, 40+ casts of charm monster but I got my archon back. Feels good (that they stopped casting summon nasties on me) 18:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 5790 points, T:5836, killed by a wand 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4803 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4803 18:58 -!- tls75 has joined #hardfought 18:58 -!- tls75 is now known as NabruII 18:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law), 4912 points, T:4074, killed by a bolt of cold 18:59 -!- snes-nh has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:59 wait didn't i have a bag 18:59 oh i think it was tricks 18:59 !lastgame stenno 18:59 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1606951304.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 995 points, T:3626, killed by an elf zombie, while unconscious from rotten food 19:00 -!- NabruII has quit [Client Quit] 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5256 19:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful pony, on T:645 19:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:8727 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:5361 19:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 10878 points, T:8834, petrified by a cockatrice 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a gnome lord), on T:1087 19:05 !lastgame p0werm0de 19:05 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/p0werm0de/nethack/dumplog/1606945871.nh.html 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1284 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2042 points, T:1656, killed by an iguana 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fireproof platinum yendorian express card", on T:6153 19:12 my horsey doesn't want to eat a pear 19:12 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 19:13 -!- tommo has quit [Client Quit] 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed orb of fate", on T:6274 19:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1487 19:17 -!- nimsumzero has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1520 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2441 19:19 stenno you so lucky 19:20 idk 19:20 2 blessed magic lamps in 20 games or so 19:21 watch me get reflectoban and no bag until castle 19:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 24114 points, T:5939, killed by a gargoyle 19:23 no exca at oracle 19:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2471 19:27 man is exca generated somewhere already or what is this 19:28 <{Demo}> do you have bones on? 19:28 nope 19:28 <{Demo}> then how would it generate? 19:28 death drop/ 19:28 does that not happen? 19:28 <{Demo}> it doesnt randomly generate iirc 19:28 <{Demo}> yeah it doesn't 19:29 at the moment my long sword is cursed thoroughly rusty 19:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:3647 19:31 <{Demo}> what variant? 19:31 i also don't get any message when dipping anymore 19:31 3.6.0 19:31 finally!! 19:31 yay! 19:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3816 19:31 <{Demo}> nice 19:31 <{Demo}> oh 370 19:31 now back to soko i guess 19:31 through the bigroom 19:31 <{Demo}> i was like why would anyone ever play 3.6.0, that was the worst thing ever 19:32 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 19:32 [hdf-us] [slex] owen (Trs Thu Mal Cha), 42210 points, T:2909, killed by a monster (invisible poohbah of Celia) 19:32 I mean I'd rather play 3.6.0 than like 1.3d 19:32 <{Demo}> true 19:33 i'd rather play 3.6.0 than vanilla 3.4.3 19:33 <{Demo}> ehhh 19:33 i played 1.3d when it came out. that makes me feel really old 19:33 <{Demo}> i can survive without colors 19:33 <{Demo}> on the invent and hp 19:33 <{Demo}> and without curses 19:33 yeah rogue for dos had colors and hack was always black and white 19:34 but you got a pet. i thought that was so cool 19:39 oh no I have physically lost the candelabra?? 19:39 I feel very dumb right now lol 19:39 <{Demo}> to the ttyrecs! 19:41 flipped soko elite strats: take screenshot, rotate/flip image 19:43 <@based> @aosdict i had three xnh runs in a row with a magic lamp and then the fourth was no magic lamp the whole game, smoky potion was in sanctum of moloch but a free wish from 1/18 fountains and a quest throne wish 19:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] owen (Nec Dro Fem Cha), 2023 points, T:1673, killed by a plains centaur 19:43 oh no screwed up soko 2 19:43 <@based> rng feels like a major vibe check sometimes 19:44 <@based> ah rip 19:44 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 19:44 :/ 19:44 hmm 19:44 T:4.2k 19:44 next timeout will be at 4.8 19:45 hill orc just teleported in soko, wtf? 19:46 maybe it was create onster 19:46 -!- uruwi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:47 -!- uruwi has joined #hardfought 19:50 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 19:50 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:52 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2627 19:54 @based In TNNT, I find the thing that most commonly stymies me for the "get a wish from all sources" achievement is fountains. 19:54 for me it was smoky 19:54 i think 19:54 had 4/5 once 19:54 yeah if smoky is polymorph or something sufficiently rare 19:54 didn't get smoky 19:54 you can't destroy the candelabrum i don't think 19:54 it's somewhere 19:55 -!- uruwi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:58 displacing peaceful creatures is such a great feature imo 19:59 stenno: yeah, that's what I missed the most in tnnt 19:59 huge 20:01 damn gelcube eating all my soko zoo loot 20:03 yess boh 20:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6781 20:03 yay 20:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:6844 20:07 <@based> displacing friendlies and no autowalk in liquids 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 222 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:49710 20:08 <@based> ah those changes are si bien 20:08 <@based> how much bonkage does sceptre of might do 20:09 <@based> priest getting sceptre sounds pretty nice 20:09 Sadly I haven't gotten paranoid liquids into vanilla yet. 20:09 double damage against cross-aligned 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh4] Leia (ebrizzlez) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1228 points, T:128, killed by a sewer rat 20:09 yes, SoM is perfect for lawful priest 20:09 also hungerless conflict 20:09 and slotless-ish MR 20:10 i just realized, i havent ascended 3.7.0 20:10 stenno wtf 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3378 20:11 K2: hm? 20:11 why u no let me asc 370 20:11 play dwarf valk 20:11 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:11 pfft 20:11 and don't die 20:11 its that easy 20:11 i'll play neutral arc 20:11 or tourist 20:12 also good 20:12 -!- MrCow has joined #hardfought 20:12 Hey 20:12 Hello MrCow, Welcome to #hardfought 20:13 K2: try gnomish healer, but pacifist 20:13 lol 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3523 20:14 i've tried pacifist. i'm not ready for that yet 20:14 someday 20:15 * stenno neither 20:15 i will try it very soon though 20:15 I would prbably get bored of pacifist quickly 20:15 *probably 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3731 20:17 Hey, Im just curius about playing nethack with a tileset. How would I install one? 20:18 MrCow: if you're playing on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/hterm/hterm-us/ 20:19 then you have to edit you config_file to add OPTIONS=vt_tiledata 20:19 lugh thinks i am arrogant and that i should relearn my lessons 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3809 20:20 Lugh seems mollified. 20:20 not anymore 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by naming Sting, on T:657 20:21 found random magic marker 20:21 thats helpful 20:23 This cookie has a scrap of paper inside. It reads: They say that and they say this but they never say never, never! 20:23 lol 20:24 fountain would be nice now 20:24 or /oCancel 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 204 points, T:1037, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:28 lizard would be nice now 20:28 and more fountains 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:50902 20:32 -!- MrCow has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 20:33 this game is so weird 20:33 i have so much good stuff, but i don't have a blindfold and i also don't have a lizard corpse 20:33 (and no tonal) 20:35 finally lizard corpse lol 20:35 !whereis stenno 20:35 nabru: [hdf-eu] stenno [nh370]: (Kni Hum Fem Law) T:9711 The Dungeons of Doom level: 20 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 68 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:51293 20:38 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 20:40 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:42 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:10945 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52070 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52071 20:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:50 gotta think about castle now 20:51 could geno ;, levi to backdoor 20:51 or zap striking at front door 20:51 ah imma ID my rings first 20:51 maybe one is conflict 20:52 nope 20:52 <@based> gotta do the sneaky 20:52 guess i will geno ; because i am scared 20:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class ;), on T:11181 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:26, killed by a falling rock 21:01 wow get 21:01 0:2 21:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:11670 21:02 hmm 21:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:11670 21:03 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 21:05 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered Blue Fatcat, her faithful kitten, on T:395 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 171 points, T:539, killed by a hobbit 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 125 points, T:607, killed by a sewer rat 21:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:12051 21:15 man i wonder why my carry cap is so terrible 21:15 maybe because of [oRefl 21:19 <@luxidream> knight unreasons 21:19 hm? 21:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Knight, on T:12488 21:19 <@luxidream> kni has terrible starting con 21:19 <@luxidream> you're probably still feeling the effects of that 21:20 well but now i have 18/15 St: and 15 con 21:20 hmm 21:20 you just now attained the rank of knight, after 12.5k turns 21:20 lol 21:20 you're finally ready to start the dungeon? 21:24 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:24 hezrou hides in gas cloud, i press 's' 21:25 You already found a monster. Use 'm' prefix to force another search. 21:25 i did not find a monster 21:25 its hidden in the gas cloud 21:26 monsters should override gas clouds for immediately adjacent <-- YANI, may already exist 21:26 hezrou generating gas clouds is fucking badass btw imo 21:27 still no enchant weapon WutFace 21:28 think i wanna revgeno 21:28 white unicorn and nurse 21:29 <@based> time for some nurse pole dancing 21:29 yep 21:29 sup y'alll 21:30 aoei and stenno europe represent 21:30 stenno: bist du früh aufgewacken oder bist du spät wach? :D 21:30 spaet 21:31 * aoei früh 21:31 oof 21:31 lol 21:31 yeh 21:31 i mean i fell asleep at 10pm 21:31 Ich hoffe, dass du bald wieder einschlafen kannst 21:31 oh. 21:31 <{Demo}> i have the worst fucking headache right now holy shit 21:31 aber das ist nur 5 stunden 21:31 man i have so many resources i could live the magic missile dream lul 21:32 in retrospect, my greatest accomplishment in tnnt was never accidentally typing #quit by reflex like I was trying to get out of wizmode 21:33 :) 21:33 this was also done sometimes with a wizmode game I DID want to quit in an adjacent terminal 21:34 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34 idk what was my best achievement 21:34 possibly setting my personal gametime record for 3.6.6 was it 21:34 but i was actually pretty proud of my vegan atheist tourist 21:34 even tho it wouldnt be my first vegan atheist 21:35 hmm... I'm not sure I would want to meet a vegan atheist tourist in real life. they'd probably be obnoxious 21:35 <{Demo}> aosdict i have a solution for that 21:35 <{Demo}> locally, i never play with paranoid quit 21:35 nurses are not hitting me o_O 21:35 <{Demo}> for wiz shit 21:35 <{Demo}> severly, i only play with paranoid quit 21:35 oh it does 21:35 <{Demo}> server fuck me 21:35 i have to m+s for nurse dancing 21:36 oh damn that is super annoying 21:36 oh i guess i could just '.' 21:36 <@luxidream> ah yes, m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m., peak nethack gameplay 21:36 you can disable safe wait 21:36 thats a thing now since edit level 23 21:36 <{Demo}> oh you can disable that? thank christ 21:36 one sec i'll get the cfg command 21:36 -!- nimsumzero has joined #hardfought 21:37 thx K2 21:37 its safe_wait 21:37 bool 21:37 <@luxidream> you should have seen me nurse dancing before :V 21:37 well i just experienced it shortly 21:37 OPTIONS=!safe_wait 21:37 put that in your cfg 21:37 <@luxidream> there's going to be a lot of reddit posts about that when 3.7 comes out on nao 21:38 hm maybe i should od msgtype continue or whatsitcalled for 'i hope you don't mind' 21:38 oh that reminds me i still hvaent read the post tnnt reddit summary thing 21:38 <{Demo}> i cant even read anymore im pretty sure 21:38 {Demo}: do you have a migraine? 21:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 7027 points, T:4872, killed by an enormous rat 21:39 <{Demo}> i mean in general not rn but rn is realllly bad i blame some whack shit i consumed 21:39 aw bro 21:39 <@luxidream> some yellow mold? 21:39 {Demo}: m8 :C 21:39 <{Demo}> not that whack 21:39 happens, i guess 21:39 @luxidream do you think the majority of players would configure it off most of the time, or only turn it off sporadically 21:40 I lean towards the latter 21:40 in which case it defaulting to true is sensible 21:40 got ~60 hp from nurse dancing 21:40 pretty good 21:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Glasya, on T:56206 21:41 <@luxidream> I feel like players will probably default to having it off just out of familiarity 21:41 <@luxidream> there are a lot of other common situations where you would wait instead of moving 21:41 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 21:41 <@luxidream> not just nurse dancing 21:41 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:41 tooled horn 21:41 i heard thats useful 21:41 i will keep it 21:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Daemon, on T:56295 21:43 lol luxidream when speedrunning i started zapping my 1:0 WoW instead of . for combat-waits 21:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:13534 21:43 <@luxidream> that would be a cool macro actually 21:44 i havent actually got the wish during combat yet 21:44 <@luxidream> map . to zQ or whatever you keep your wishing wand to 21:44 i got it on the water plane once because i zapped that instad of waiting for the stupid bubble to move 21:44 tho swimming is ofc faster 21:44 <@luxidream> we need like swim goggles or something 21:45 Any tips on copying another user's config file? When I try, it just gets hung up on connecting to hardfought and nothing happens 21:45 lol 21:45 <@luxidream> it's ridiculous that we have to use water troll or face awful turbulence 21:45 nimsumzero: that happened to me when trying to copy my own too, i think theres a bug with the system possibly 21:45 luxidream: i think there are a couple of other forms that can swim too tho 21:45 water nymph perhaps 21:45 but im not 100% sure 21:46 i need to read up on all this a bit more 21:46 oh, bummer. Ok, how about this. Is curses a better interface? If so, how can I use that? 21:46 <@luxidream> hm it can 21:46 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) murdered Tina Handler A, her faithful green dragon, on T:84722 21:46 <@luxidream> having poor hp is probably a downside 21:46 i switch to curses and permainvent on a full-screen alacritty window recently, i like it 21:47 right luxidream, but if you're just using it for the water plane... 21:47 and you have say tooled horn, you can wear all your normal armour 21:47 Do I just unhashtag the curses commands in the standard config file to use it? 21:47 no carrying cap problems with nymphs either IIRC 21:47 nimsumzero: OPTIONS=windowtype:curses 21:48 omg i am so stupid 21:48 nimsumzero: also you can dl poeple's configs online, tho you still need to manually copypasta it into your hting 21:48 <@based> when i nurse dance I press ms and then hold down ctrl-a 21:48 as in you can download via http 21:48 all the time i was _also_ carrying an oilskin sack 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:53888 21:48 okay. I'll try that. Thanks a ton 21:48 since before soko 21:48 <@luxidream> hm yeah that's probably better 21:48 thats why 21:48 <@based> im too nooby to be able to do low turncounts 21:48 i had encumberance problems 21:48 <@luxidream> I'll try it next time 21:48 <@luxidream> with det monsters shouldn't be a problem 21:49 i will probably try it too lux :D 21:49 ive never actually used nymph polyforms before 21:49 <@luxidream> they just have really trash hp 21:49 nimsumzero: e.g. hre is mine https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nethack/aoei.nhrc 21:49 <@luxidream> so outside of teleitis usually succubus is better 21:49 luxidream: ah cuz succubus can also steal? 21:49 how trash are we talking 21:50 i've gotten by with 30 maxhp polyforms sometimes 21:50 <@luxidream> find myself with single digit hp 21:50 LOL 21:50 fuck 21:50 ok that is pretty dire 21:50 <@luxidream> i think it's 3d8 21:50 but det mon, conflict and tooled horn may be enough 21:50 <@luxidream> since they are hd:3 21:50 ah right 21:53 hmm 21:53 never mind 21:53 <@luxidream> 200 iq obviously uses rust monster for speed 18 :V 21:54 ooooh 21:54 also shit hp tho? 21:54 <{Demo}> I like to use unicorn in slashem 21:54 hows their carryign cap? 21:54 <{Demo}> for doppelganger 21:55 <@luxidream> not bad actually 21:55 heh yeah weight 1000 21:55 <@luxidream> only reduces it to like 68% 21:55 yeah 21:56 <@luxidream> wait they are medium they don't break cloaks 21:56 <@luxidream> hmmmmmm 21:57 ooooh 21:57 even better 21:57 lux you're a genius 21:57 gonna rust monster my way through water every time now 21:57 HD only 5 but still better than nymph with 3 lol 21:58 note however: "is an animal." 21:58 this seems to be the wiki's way of telling you: can't talk, can't cast 21:58 but after portal detecting you probably dont need to cast much on the water plane 21:59 <@luxidream> not quite aoei 21:59 and you can wear conflict and regen if HP is a worry 21:59 oh really? 21:59 <@luxidream> it's based on the m2_silent tag 21:59 <@luxidream> for example, cockatrices can cast 21:59 ah is ee 21:59 i wonder if rust monsters have this flag 21:59 would have to source dive it i guess 21:59 or just wiz test 21:59 wiz test probably eaiser 22:00 You turn into a rust monster! Your cloak tears apart! 22:00 does break cloak unfortunately 22:00 which is odd because as you said, size medium 22:00 <@luxidream> ms silent sorry 22:00 You are unable to chant the incantation. 22:01 so no casting for rust monsters either unfortunately 22:01 warhorses of course can cast 22:01 because they can whinny and neigh 22:02 thats actually pretty sweet for a travel form 22:02 good carrying cap 22:02 you can cast 22:02 speed 24 22:02 caste haste self or something and you're going at pretty sweet speeds 22:02 handless monsters can still zap wands too for some reason 22:02 including air E 22:02 <@luxidream> oh, it probably doesn't have a head 22:03 what, the rust monster? 22:03 <@luxidream> never mind don't listen to me 22:03 so, i cannot ?oSM uniques anymore, right? 22:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:14334 22:04 <@luxidream> requirements to cast spells though: 22:04 <@luxidream> mtmp == &g.youmonst && Strangled) || is_silent(mtmp->data) || !has_head(mtmp->data) || mtmp->data->msound == MS_BUZZ || mtmp->data->msound == MS_BURBLE 22:04 <@luxidream> must have head, cannot be silent, cannot be a bee or jabberwock 22:05 no casting jabberwocks makes me sad too 22:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2732 22:05 jabberwock and minotaur were my favourite fighter forms 22:05 <@luxidream> i wonder why they are specifically excluded 22:05 minotaur actually i still really like 22:05 <@luxidream> was it to nerf those strategies? 22:05 but not being able to cast maeks them more challenging 22:06 <@luxidream> nothing else burbles 22:06 maybe they are too limited in the sounds they are able to produce 22:06 can't chant an incantation by only burbling 22:06 idk 22:06 <@luxidream> i know but they are hardcoded in to be excluded 22:07 <@luxidream> whereas monsters that growl or hiss are totally fine 22:07 hmmm yeah 22:07 <@luxidream> doesn't make sense to me 22:07 that is a bit odd 22:07 minotaur is still a pretty bad-ass fighter if you have healing pots or a regen ring tho 22:07 i dont think i'll exclude using those entirely as a result 22:08 jabberwock otoh maybe not worth it 22:08 they can fly and hit hard but they're only speed 12 22:08 <@luxidream> mmf is better for hitting hard probably 22:09 only vs monsters with brains 22:09 and actually the difference isnt very big iirc 22:09 but i'd have to check their respective damage dies again 22:09 mino jabby and mmf work out fairly similar 22:09 but mmf does fuck all damage to brainless monsters 22:09 mino and jabby do the same to everyone except ghosts and shades 22:10 i actually dont like mmf form that much 22:10 <@luxidream> it's better human 22:10 <@luxidream> I like using it in realtime lol 22:10 <@luxidream> too powerful to pass up 22:10 but sometimes its necessary because its the best damage for a polyform you can wear armour in, and you can still cast 22:10 i mean i also often like to play conducts and stuff lux 22:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:14566 22:11 and mmf ruins all the food ones 22:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:14567 22:11 plus you end up being satiated and cant eat stuff easily for intrinsics, i also find that very annoying 22:11 <@luxidream> go into an unbreathing form to eat 22:11 can use mmf for #monster without breaking food conducts 22:11 i also dislike doing that luxidream 22:12 i know its an option 22:12 but maybe that is a reservation based on nothing particularly logical 22:12 <@luxidream> being ridiculously oversatiated is also nice for when you have to spam control+t on the asc run 22:13 *that* is true 22:13 thats an advantage for sure 22:14 i might try to do another foodless wizard speedrun for 3.6.6 tho 22:14 hm 22:14 still no sleep res 22:14 wonder if i should go lower mines for luckstone and maybe sleep res and also teleportitis 22:15 and some tools 22:15 guess imma do it 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3274 22:15 you don't need sleep res stenno it's fine 22:15 aoei: lies 22:15 i use to play like that 22:15 resistances are overrated 22:15 <@luxidream> if you have reflection it's really unnecessary 22:15 now i am scared 22:15 <@luxidream> oh no the scary homunculi 22:15 but monsters throwing sleep potions at me 22:16 tbh i did wish for orange DSM in my vegan atheist tourist 22:16 <@luxidream> free action 22:16 but i probably didnt need it 22:16 maybe green would have been better idk, i was relying on a ring for poison resistance lol 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:7236 22:16 there is an elf king 22:16 <@luxidream> or don't worry about it 22:16 maybe i am lucky 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3387 22:17 pr probably >> sleep 22:17 since the instadeath thing, tho rare, really sucks 22:17 ll i do have PR 22:17 yeah i dont care about that stenno 22:17 im thinking about my tourist game where i wished for ODSM instead of GreenDSM 22:17 i should have gone for Green 22:18 i found a robe at the castle 22:18 nice 22:18 i could actually do magic missile spellcasting with this one lol 22:18 but i am scared that rodney will steal my mmo 22:18 m 22:18 I haven't had my quest arti stolen by rodney in a long time 22:18 me neither 22:18 i always kill him very fast 22:18 but i guess you never know when it might happen 22:18 lol actually with my TNNT knight 22:18 lol 22:19 he laughed fiendishly but i left the mmom in the vs level 22:19 so he would have gotten it if i had it i think? 22:19 i ascended 3.7.0 ranger with only the quest arti as reflection source not that long ago 22:19 omfg now my titan and my archon both level teleported away aaaaaa lol 22:19 You finish eating the Elvenking corpse. You feel wide awake. 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6916 points, T:6550, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 22:19 during the game i didnt even consider that rodney could have nicked it 22:19 leaving me reflectionless 22:19 lol 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:54259 22:20 <@luxidream> lol reflection doet matert'sn 22:20 <@luxidream> matter* 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:54263 22:20 think i will go lower mines to collect scrolls and the luckstone 22:20 matter'nt 22:20 <@luxidream> doesn't matter** 22:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15960 22:29 i will polypile for +oMM lul 22:32 that didn't quite hit the mark 22:32 man i am wasting my resources lol 22:34 <@based> damn i havent even made it to the castle in under 25k turns yet 22:34 <@based> i dont usually dig straight down but i like collecting all the shiny things and doing the nethacking 22:35 so far my record is castle and quest done by t:2706 22:35 <@based> mama mia 22:35 i splatted that game in the sanctum though :( 22:35 ate cockatrice brains lol 22:35 <@based> a fancy meal 22:35 still was really fun tho 22:35 my best run of tnnt 22:38 ok that polypile session was really stupid 22:38 basically just wasted scrolls and marker charges 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a skeleton, on T:10761 22:45 You add the "magic missile" spell to your repertoire. 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11346 22:47 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 350 points, T:807, exterminated by a homunculus, while sleeping 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:54683 22:50 -!- bort13 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:52 stone to flesh is bad for dex! I keep eating these meat mountains and my dex has dropped to 5! 22:55 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 859 points, T:1071, withered away 22:55 :D 22:55 man, wearing shield of reflection is immediately +57% to fail 22:55 luxidream: I have the lowest turns for a foodless asc ever in nh343 22:56 cant cast magic missile with that not even with robe 22:56 i should do it again for the new version 22:56 aoei: try to break my 3.4.3 illit gametime record 22:56 i dont want to break any 343 records 22:56 i want to set new ones in 366 22:56 343 is legacy shit now 22:58 366 fastest foodless is actually BilldaCat's tnnt monk 22:58 29k turns lol 22:58 just pray when hungry every time? 22:58 <@luxidream> no one really mixes and matches 22:58 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 418 points, T:688, sent to the next life by a gnome lord 22:59 foodless atheist would be more impressive 22:59 I should speedrun that 23:00 <@luxidream> start with slow digestion 23:00 so if a monster gets level ported out of gehennom could it be in the gnomish mines? 23:00 <@luxidream> win before you get hungry 23:00 not quite lux, you can also polyself $race 23:00 but yeah you want to start with =oSD 23:00 Neko-chan, no 23:00 <@luxidream> it doesn't sound that bad outside of finding holy water tbh 23:01 Neko-chan: likely a poly trap in the mines 23:01 for atheists i usually use the confused blessed remove curse trick 23:01 Neko-chan: sorry, assuming you saw a balrog in the mines. 23:01 that gets you holy and unholy both 23:01 <@luxidream> yeah that's a good way to get water 23:01 Neko-chan: levport from gehennom can only land in gehennom or the dungeons of doom 23:02 bouquet No, my archon just keeps stepping on levelporting traps while I'm trying to do gehennom and I don't want it to kill me later 23:02 aoei: ok tyvm 23:03 i forget all the rules but you can only levport between branches that are connected by stairs(/trapdoor for DoD->Gehennom) 23:04 i don't get it why [oRefl adds so much spellcasting penalty 23:04 levport from vlad im not sure how that one works tho, can you still get to DoD from vlad levport? 23:04 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Spellcasting#Calculating_spell_success_rate 23:04 or is it only downwards into gehennom that workss 23:05 table says 'shield: 0' 23:05 i.e. knight does not get any penalty for wielding a shield 23:05 All large shields do. 23:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] sohlman (Wiz Dro Mal Neu), 4 points, T:27, killed by a goblin, while sleeping off a magical draught 23:05 you are wearing a shield larger than a small shield, the chance is then reduced to 1/4 its amount 23:05 god dammit 23:11 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 427 points, T:1498, killed by a magic missile 23:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:18737 23:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:18739 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] sohlman (Pri Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1673 23:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:19127 23:21 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 641 points, T:1553, mowed down by a little dog called Maya 23:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:19181 23:22 aosdict: do xnh wiz *always* start with +oMM now? 23:24 hm 23:24 i should read the wiki again 23:24 just tried to write a book of sleep 23:24 but im not sure wiz with 0 luck still has 1/3 chance to succeed 23:25 i am honestly considering wishing for "oRefl just so i can cast magic missile 23:25 would have 1:0 left which is fine imo 23:26 think i will just do it 23:26 where would be the fun otherwise 23:26 I'm playing a non-wizard and I have been casting spells like I'm a wizard, which has really made me respect hungerless casting 23:27 I feel like I'm getting close to have eaten all the food that spawned in the dungeon 23:29 Neko-chan: yeah it's hard for non-wiz casters 23:30 <@luxidream> stenno: then you complain about not having hooa 23:30 nah 23:30 i trust the nerfed force 23:30 <@luxidream> oh yeah this is 3.7 23:30 <@luxidream> there's no need for hooa anymore 23:31 <@luxidream> i might still wish for it, it's still faster but by a very slim margin 23:33 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 23:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection named stupid", on T:19560 23:34 whats the deal with HoOA in 3.7? 23:34 something different? 23:35 force is nerfed in 3.7 23:35 <@luxidream> nerfed force makes it less necessary for lawfuls 23:35 so being lawful is not that imp- 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:55662 23:35 that 23:35 ohhhright 23:35 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8459 23:35 still useful for astral 23:35 i never play lawfuls so i didnt think of that :D 23:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:36 <@luxidream> you can hold off on wishing for it 23:36 <@luxidream> if you have protection somehow you can keep it on the asc run which is nice 23:36 Hi 23:36 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 23:36 I shall now do something unadvisable 23:37 I shall resume 23:37 Umby == Umbire? 23:37 my priest. 23:37 forboding 23:37 Correct 23:37 cool 23:37 <@luxidream> i mean 23:37 <@luxidream> the worst thing that happens is you die 23:38 you feel a bunch of dust come out of your throat 23:38 im really digging xnh wizard atm 23:38 the pw regen boost is so nice 23:38 and you start with magic missile 23:38 i also started with healing this game 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:3885 23:39 so you just start off primed to go nuclear eh 23:39 funny 23:39 still absolutely assblasted at losing two perfectly good wizards in a row 23:39 Umbire: yea 23:40 the downside is you don't start with any rings wands pots or scrolls 23:40 no fancy polykit scumming 23:40 you also can't have a t:1 wow (with any char) 23:40 inchresting 23:40 because aosdict is mean and removed random wishing wands 23:40 <@luxidream> as it should be 23:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6269 points, T:7692, killed by a warg 23:41 force bolt/magic missile and healing (also confuse mon) 23:41 such a great set of spells 23:41 all i really need is sleep and maybe det mon, jumping 23:42 You see here an athame. 23:42 toit 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1736 points, T:4080, killed by a small mimic 23:45 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Kni Ang Fem Law), 676 points, T:1638, sent to the next life by a giant fly 23:46 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Dra Chn Fem Law), 18 points, T:73, killed by a riding accident 23:47 ooo a mithril pick-axe 23:47 that one I can wield without pain 23:48 pain being... 23:48 oh right, elven 23:48 I'm guessing 23:48 yeah 23:48 rite rite 23:48 wiz elf fem cha 23:48 oh you motherfucker 23:48 i forgot about thiefstones 23:48 LOL 23:48 nwo i have to go find my enchant weapon scroll 23:48 just dig your way to the stash 4Head 23:49 some ppl like them i hate them 23:49 well it should be on this level i think? 23:49 thiefstones are pretty fucking genius honestly 23:49 if you use a stash sure 23:49 i dont use stashes 23:49 so they're just annoying to me 23:49 ... 23:49 how do you live. 23:49 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Dan Orc Fem Cha), 72 points, T:413, killed by a falling rock 23:50 i ascend in under 20k turns, or often under 15k or ideally under 10k turns and don't have time to collect lots of times 23:50 actually my target is under 5k but i havent done that yet 23:51 <@luxidream> well just because it doesn't suit your playstyle doesn't make it bad though 23:51 <@luxidream> I don't like it because it forces you to use whatever level it happened to spawn on as a stash 23:51 just move the stash then 4Head 23:52 joking aside I forget exactly what triggers the "theft" 23:52 aoei: I think they do always start with magic missile. from fiqhack. but also special spells don't exist anymore 23:52 picking it up, right? 23:52 The horned devil snatches Excalibur! 23:52 <@luxidream> i thought it was keyed to a specific location? 23:52 get magic missiled 23:52 <@luxidream> or does it go to a box 23:52 aosdict: ah 23:52 luxidream: to be fair I didn't say they were bad, I just said I hate them 23:52 @luxidream it goes into a box if there is one at the keyed location, and a box generates at the keyed location it selects 23:53 @luxidream you can re-key thiefstones 23:53 I deliberately stated that it's personal 23:53 cancel it and then dip it in, uh. Restore ability? 23:53 like, I do think it's a cool item/game mechanic 23:53 <@luxidream> why is it so hard to rekey them 23:53 !time 23:53 stenno: Wed Dec 2 23:53:39 2020 EST 23:53 just one that does absolutely nothing for you 23:53 its just not something i want to use 23:53 nah I get it 23:53 yeah Umbire lol 23:53 how cn i ask time on EU 23:53 !servertime 23:53 !time EU 23:53 Umbire: Wed Dec 2 23:53:53 2020 EST 23:54 well I'm all out of ideads 23:54 ideas* 23:54 !help 23:54 stenno: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 23:54 <@luxidream> can't you just give it an invoke or something 23:54 it's intentional that it takes a wide variety of items to rekey a thiefstone. having that pretty early in the game is too good 23:54 no, thiefstones aren't artifacts 23:54 <@luxidream> how is it stronger than say, finding an early bag of holding 23:54 !bothep 23:54 gray stone that "replaces" loadstones 23:55 !bothelp 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:9509 23:55 i see there is no such thing 23:55 you know what would be cool 23:55 in-game #time extcommand or so 23:55 quoting myself: "Why should this only work on cancelled thiefstones? Because it pushes the point at which the player can have a thiefstone keyed to wherever they want later into the game. In order to get this, the player needs a combination of four things: a thiefstone, a curse-removal method, a cancellation method and a potion of restore ability. Hopefully in most games this will happen somewhat into 23:55 the midgame." 23:56 what is the actual process for re-keying one? 23:56 re-keying means you set the stash location where you want right? 23:56 lacking any better information, it sets the stash location wherever you happen to be standing 23:57 <@luxidream> that is contrived enough that some games won't get that until post-castle 23:57 <@luxidream> and it's just a convenience item 23:57 <@luxidream> it doesn't break the game 23:57 i was thinking exactly the same as what luxidream said 23:57 some games may never get all that 23:57 in fact cancellation is not very common 23:57 oh well. it's not going to be made easier 23:57 i've ascended without it loads of times 23:58 but then i also dont see myself using thiefstones anyway 23:58 so i guess to me this is all moot 23:58 if you take cancellation out of the equation, thiefstones become usable by like, minetown in many games 23:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:20674 23:59 WoY took 4 magic missile hits before i zapped him with death 23:59 experiment fialed 23:59 failed 23:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:20676 23:59 ? 23:59 shit shit shit, hit several trapdoors in the mines 23:59 about to get eaten by a spider 23:59 [hdf-us] [gh] sohlman (Val Hum Fem Law), 756 points, T:1068, killed by a dwarvish lord 23:59 no escape items