00:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3934 00:00 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) murdered Daniel, her faithful warhorse, on T:45112 00:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 430 points, T:1236, killed by a water moccasin 00:03 YANI/YASI: Cavemen can sacrifice monsters of the same species as them to "give them to the ancestors", but only if they weren't responsible for killing them. 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1614 00:06 Honestly the mix of shamanistic beliefs with caveman tropes is... I can't say it's horrible per se but it's a bit clashy 00:07 (ofc, the trouble then is making a playable shaman role that's not "Wizard but with a different hat") 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:1907 00:10 I've seen two design paths for cavemen: greater access to magic as "being in tune with ancient nature" or some such, or totally ignorant of magic and worse at it than Barbarians 00:10 with the possible addition of forced illiterate thrown into either 00:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 73 points, T:374, killed by a jackal, while unconscious from rotten food 00:11 <{Demo}> it's a different kind of magic 00:11 Hmm, what would the effects be if Cav were given awesome energy regeneration (not as good as EotA, but still pretty good) but no other magical benefits? 00:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 43 points, T:211, killed by a falling rock 00:13 I'm thinking of playing Cavemen up by going more into the "pop culture" route a la Flinstones and Cavewoman 00:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2561 00:16 i like cav as a challenge role that just has crappy skills on purpose. trouble is that tourist and arc is even harder at the outset :P 00:16 nah I'm fine with that 00:16 just think that the "shaman" thing clashes a bit with the "can't into most mid-high level magic" thing 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3503 points, T:2046, killed by an ettin mummy 00:18 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 00:18 no cannibalism penalties is a fun role quirk. i don't think one needs to read into the "shaman" thing too deeply 00:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3011 points, T:2790, killed by an owlbear 00:19 this game is ancient, from back when the "noble savage" stereotype hadn't been shredded apart 00:19 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) murdered meow, her faithful housecat, on T:45242 00:20 But reading deeply into arbitrary tropes is half the fun! D: 00:20 (and that's kinda why I proposed the YANI) 00:21 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:21 I'm not demanding vanilla change archaic stuff like that immediately (though if someone else did I wouldn't completely blame them) 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Bar Orc Mal Cha) murdered Idefix, his faithful little dog, on T:1161 00:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 20 points, T:45, killed by a water moccasin 00:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 102 points, T:207, killed by a water moccasin 00:27 [hdf-us] [sp] sohlman (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1083 points, T:1022, killed by a gnome mummy, while fainted from lack of food 00:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 83 points, T:88, killed by a jackal 00:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2 points, T:29, killed by a water moccasin 00:30 spicycat: The problem with cav, and why it's the least played role, is it's just kinda all around bad and not fun to play. Being just another melee-hitting role, it doesn't really present a fun challenge. 00:31 Ye, I wanna see if I can spice it up in a way no one else has tried (though I'm not THAT above cribbing :B) 00:31 so it can be something other than "hit it until it dies but it's hard mode" 00:31 for instance, the spear damage they get is fucking nuts 00:31 they're pretty strong, I think people shy away from them because the wiki says they are worse barbarians 00:32 https://nethack-yanis.github.io/tag/caveman 00:32 that's... actually not very accurate now I stop to parse that. 00:32 which is true, but only because barbarian is incredibly strong 00:32 Yeah, probably worth one of us fixing that statement 00:32 Seriously thoughm if there were artifact spears in vanilla I'd be all over that shit 00:33 they do have the benefit of a rockin'-ass quest arti 00:33 i don't like playing humans, but Cav is one of the first roles i'd play as a human - it's so easy to accidentally sacrifice a werecreature that was in animal form, forget that you're not allowed to eat the minetown watch, etc 00:33 ... those are not common mistakes I make. 00:33 i've sacced so many humans as a human :( 00:33 it's such a friggin bummer 00:34 yeah, the first time you get eaten by Juiblex you tend to not forget it 00:34 oh yeah, that's another low key perk, you can also eat soldiers for food instead of just relying on their leftover rations 00:34 you're getting in the groove, boppin along in some sacfest, and bango, there goes a huge chunk of time 00:34 and just tin nurses whenever 00:34 in xnethack I gave them a pile of sling buffs, perhaps too much sling buffs as it caused jilles to write a reddit post gushing over the amount of damage you can do with them which might be a tad higher than I intended 00:35 Slings needed a buff to even be remotely relevant anyway 00:35 fair trade :B 00:35 jimeikner = jilles? 00:36 spicycat: you are still punished for same race sacrifice 00:36 ^ 00:36 another great reason to never play humans :P 00:36 besides being mines-blind 00:36 you can eat same race without penalty though 00:36 as a caveman/orc 00:36 i guess it's chaotic that makes saccing ok 00:36 but not eating 00:36 it is 00:37 honestly you start swimming in food after a while anyway so 00:37 because chaotic is "we only follow SOME of the rules!!!!" 00:37 but the reason why they are unpopular is not because they are not strong enough 00:37 eregen wouldn't do anything for them because their fail rates are abysmal even with exceptional int 00:37 not a lot that eating humies does that you can't get from other stuff tho 00:37 second-worst after barbs, yeah 00:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 75 points, T:177, killed by a goblin 00:38 and their special spell's just kinda one of those useless useful spells anyway 00:38 after all that 00:39 special spells are so crapshooty 00:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 137 points, T:126, killed by a hobbit 00:39 Haste self has potential late-game applications and at least ties into the berserker motif somewhat for barbs 00:39 some of them feel so first draft. close your eyes and ship the code! 00:39 this IS NetHack we're talking about :B 00:40 then there's wizards with fucking magic missile 00:40 and they gave cavemen digging 00:41 -!- MrCow has joined #hardfought 00:41 Hey 00:41 Hello MrCow, Welcome to #hardfought 00:41 o/ 00:42 i wonder how many roles never really end up casting their special spell 00:43 Well rangers have invisibility 00:43 which lol 00:43 spicycat: every role except priest and wizard 00:44 possibly tou 00:44 Valk can probably do *decently* with cone of cold but there's never been a pressing need 00:44 "possibly" 00:44 charm monster is busted tbh 00:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 316 points, T:603, killed by a water moccasin 00:45 yeah, if you find it or wish for it, is pretty nice. really would make healer have more of an identity if it was their spell though. not like they need *any* help casting cure sickness, lol 00:45 Go team {! 00:45 I mean they *kinda* don't but they *are* doctors, and 0% failure cure sickness in Gehennom is 00:45 completely useless 00:46 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾 00:46 Luxi shush 00:46 you'll squash my Dr. Demohunter dreeeeeams 00:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Katje, her faithful kitten, on T:4 00:46 ayyyy lol 00:46 on the subject of special spells monks technically getting buffed via unihorn nerf is nice 00:48 i dread the unihorn nerf 00:49 they removed cursed unihorns dropping stats 00:49 so it's really not a big deal 00:49 yeah that's a real pisser lmfao 00:49 i just rebless my unihorn when uncursed 00:49 does also technically make cursed unihorns slightly less absolutely hazardous to use 00:49 for status 00:50 It wasn't a big deal to begin with if you had a non-cursed one. 00:50 I used one in my zen game. 00:51 That's permablind, yeah? 00:51 Yeah. 00:51 icic 00:51 which means if you don't start with spells, you can't confuse yourself that way. 00:51 does zen see BUC any way except with id scrolls? 00:51 I'm not sure whether priest beatitude detection still works 00:51 andrio: some variants like un still have cursed unihorns dropping stats, but uncursed unihorns not restoring them 00:51 I think only formal identify and having the quest artifact identified 00:52 and dipping things in known water 00:52 mm 00:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 33 points, T:123, killed by a newt 00:52 I don't recall; does UnNetHack do that? 00:52 known holy water.. so the feeling in your hands tells the character whether it goes to unc or blessed? 00:52 it's ages since i played zen 00:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 32 points, T:132, killed by contaminated water 00:53 actually IIRC that requires already knowing its beatitute 00:53 oh, okay 00:53 it would be nasty if it simply forgot it 00:53 once it changes 00:54 It does if you don't know the beatitude of the water. 00:54 ow 00:54 i always thought zen's the trickiest one to get going 00:55 mm 00:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 26 points, T:124, killed by a water demon 00:56 Andrio: yes on unnethack 00:56 Gimme a moment 00:56 i'm impressed at how much you got done during the tourney, without much chatting, Andrio :D 00:56 I just checked 00:56 ...which potentially sounds like passiveaggressive shade, but it's not! 00:56 Yikes 00:57 Telepathy helps a lot though. 00:57 Yeah, Andrio's a quiet one 00:58 😶 00:58 YASI: mute option in the same vein as zen and nudist 00:58 * Andrio is self-conscious about the number of times he died attempting it 00:58 Perma-deafness implies that, actually 00:58 be proud of yourself :) 00:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 297 points, T:386, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:59 that too, yeah~ 00:59 (ves) 00:59 congrats for the achievements, Andrio. after a few ascs that was all I was trying for, but only got shared #2 at 222 00:59 can you play instruments with permadeaf? 00:59 Yes 00:59 but IIRC you can't play the passtune 00:59 ? 01:00 sup spicycat 01:00 deaf players can still play notes? 01:00 you can, actually; never mind 01:01 they have to get the tune randomly or from their god, right? 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh4] sohlman (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 17864 points, T:964, killed by a bat 01:01 a voice booms out: "...!" 01:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 74 points, T:188, killed by a death ray 01:02 !lastgame 01:02 BirthdayUmbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sohlman/nethack4/dumplog/2020-12-01%2006%3A01%3A29%2C%20sohlman-Ran-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/p0werm0de/nethack/dumplog/1606802463.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mishka/nethack/dumplog/1605483254.nh.html 01:02 Or just smash the bridge like everyone else does. 01:02 LOL 01:02 Water demon with a death wand 01:03 zen permahallu deaf player trying all the combos to the drawbridge 01:03 the nethack protag is an exceptionally skilled musician, with perfect pitch 01:03 luxidream2: lmao 01:03 ability to play any instrument with no practice 01:03 even while deaf 01:03 it's not like they're playing very complex pieces 01:04 You can make them play complex pieces 01:04 trying out 7776(?) 5-note combos would just be a prog-rock double album 01:05 >be hungry 01:05 16 807 01:05 >heading to Soko with my pets 01:05 >spear a vampire bat on the way 01:05 >it drops a horn of plenty 01:05 nice~ 01:05 Andrio, oh, right 01:05 ...and the tins were chickatrice. 01:05 Tripe, no 01:05 Next! 01:06 Water, nice but not what I need right this moment 01:06 finally, food 01:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:06 make a sound patch that plays sound files via VLC or play, then you can toot out songs if there's a sound file for each note :D 01:07 hard mode: can't type the notes. you have to whistle them 01:07 also, sorry about being quiet. 01:08 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed greased fixed scrolls of charging", on T:46568 01:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 20 points, T:27, killed by a kobold zombie 01:08 oh no, that's not the desired result of what i said :P 01:08 Yeah, no one's complaining 01:08 I idle all the damn time 01:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 7 points, T:133, killed by a water demon 01:09 it's impressive that you just kinda rambo'd off and did big things for the team without any fuss or fanfare 01:09 * BirthdayUmbire wields a flute! 01:10 G-^D-B B A G 01:11 didn't Andrio do like 220 of the achievements in one game? 01:11 Yeah. 01:11 I made an attempt on that last year too, but Tangles beat me~ 01:11 wiz? 01:12 Yes. 01:12 kudos 01:12 Probably the best due to spellcasting abilities and the Eye of the Aethiopica; also, one achievement requires being a wizard and another requires being a role with prisoners on their quest; one requires being a knight or priest 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2485 01:15 I just thought about the kill / extinction ones. did you do any conducts (pre-quest)? 01:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 293 points, T:457, killed by an orc zombie 01:15 oh, i suppose the identification ones are also way easier for wiz, in case you have to polymorph stuff. 01:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 137 points, T:171, killed by a gecko 01:17 i would've had 223 had I not forgotten /oWishing to a brain suck 01:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:16, killed by a jackal 01:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 33 points, T:74, killed by a sewer rat 01:19 That sucks. 01:19 A lot of polypiling, yeah. 01:19 I wonder what happened to the ninth nazgul, too. only got 8 01:19 (revgeno didn't produce one) 01:19 i tried to check every level meticulously. 01:20 I had polypileless, polyselfless, wishless, genocideless, Elberethless, swap-chestless, survivor 01:20 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:20 tfw you empty four spears into a freshly spawned wumpus and kill it 01:21 I might have gone for artifactless, I didn't realise that kicking Magicbane counts as touching an artifact. 01:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 235 points, T:351, killed by a hobbit 01:21 Because artifact blasts? 01:22 That doesn't get you blasted. 01:22 Huh. 01:23 were you wearing boots! 01:23 If not that would explain it 01:23 [hdf-us] [fh] Arctrect (arctrect) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 5591 points, T:250, killed by a goblin 01:24 Makes sense. You can behead things by kicking Vorpal Blade at them. 01:24 (!) 01:24 you kicked Magicbane off an altar? 01:25 Yeah. 01:25 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:47030 01:26 anyway on to Soko finally 01:26 I think I have the training required to max out mace already, just need the levels 01:26 also dunno what weapon I wanna take a stab at next, got expert spear and waiting on expert skill point for club 01:26 What role? 01:27 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) attained the rank of Knight of Talons, on T:47137 01:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 185 points, T:206, killed by a hobbit 01:27 Neutral humie cavegal 01:27 aww~ 01:27 Yeah, named her Meriem because I'm a gigantic nerd 01:27 The Staff of Aesculapius is good if you can find a staff to practise with. 01:28 wait, that's the Healer artifact; never mind 01:28 lul 01:28 BirthdayUmbire, after whom? 01:28 It's viable for a wish 01:28 But I hadn't planned on larping as Vandal Savage 01:28 so I have a shield on :B 01:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 50 points, T:68, killed by a grid bug 01:28 (that I plan to swap for a soR when I can) 01:28 Muad: Cavewoman. 01:29 Sceptre of Might maybe? 01:29 I bought a chameleon corpse and it turned one of my pets into a dorf 01:29 So I got a lil companion for me trip 01:29 * BirthdayUmbire coughs 01:29 >Cave i.e. I'm guaranteed the Sceptre, but idk what weapon skill I wanna dabble in now 01:31 considered axe for a second, but it was early in the game and that shit was heavy 01:31 mtf's ranger with Cleaver was fun, yeah 01:31 heh 01:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 275 points, T:363, killed by a kobold lord 01:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:3 01:35 Huh. 01:36 Somehow the long sword I bought for my dwarf buddy back in MineTown was rustproof 01:36 Neat 01:37 at the least it didn't rust when he swat that rust monster 01:38 Where'd you get it? 01:38 Was just in a Minetown shop 01:38 53 zm 01:38 on that note, it helps I lucked into +2 dwarvish helm/shoes around there 01:39 Probably just blessed. 01:39 I bought it during the same return trip from Mines' End that I poly'd my cat into dorf 01:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 160 points, T:244, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:41 lol pets falling through holes trying to reach tripe 01:45 i hope there's more tripe wherever they fall :( 01:45 One of them's my dorf 01:45 my dorf friend* I should say 01:46 i hope there's booze 01:48 I have 6 potions in my bag 01:48 don't think sapient pets take those tho :B 01:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 36 points, T:85, killed by a fox 01:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 95 points, T:73, killed by a kobold 01:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 80 points, T:188, killed by a water moccasin 01:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 329 points, T:449, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 01:56 yani: chaotics wielding stormbringer don't lose alignment for committing murder 01:57 Feel like that's semi-common but I'm just guessing 01:57 i just looked at the chaotic tag, it's not in there! 01:57 Oh neat 01:57 -!- MrCow has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:57 https://nethack-yanis.github.io/tag/chaotic 01:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 16 points, T:71, killed by contaminated water 02:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1685 02:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 332 points, T:497, killed by a jackal 02:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 38 points, T:77, killed by a water moccasin 02:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 104 points, T:351, killed by a water moccasin 02:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3584 02:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1670 points, T:2613, killed by a giant beetle 02:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 25806 points, T:6717, killed by a triton 02:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 166 points, T:266, killed by a sewer rat 02:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 28 points, T:37, killed by a kobold 02:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 284 points, T:387, killed by a werejackal 02:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +5 Grayswandir", on T:8 02:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1783 02:37 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 02:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2572 02:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 60 points, T:2128, killed by a jackal 02:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1572 points, T:2173, killed by a watch captain 02:40 >wishing for a cross-aligned artifact before turn 10 02:40 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:41 -!- bort13 has quit [Client Quit] 02:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1883 points, T:2650, killed by a bolt of fire 02:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 202 points, T:505, killed by a crossbow bolt 02:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2209 points, T:2289, quit 02:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:18, killed by a fox 02:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:3823 03:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3893 03:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of gloves called old gloves cursed fumbling? on an altar, on T:3902 03:05 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 03:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 258 points, T:344, killed by a kobold 03:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 24 points, T:527, killed by a fox 03:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6173 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5862 03:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1030 points, T:1444, killed by a giant beetle 03:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7117 03:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 203 points, T:292, killed by a bat 03:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 275 points, T:272, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 03:30 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:9154 03:33 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 307 points, T:723, killed by a water demon 03:38 [hdf-au] [nh370] PeachMuffin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 372 points, T:826, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 690 points, T:970, killed by a water moccasin 03:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 386 points, T:772, killed by a bolt of fire 03:49 aosdict: up until 2012 and UnNetHack 4.0.0, I was adding most of the stuff alone. then I slowed down considerably. without guest41, the next release at the end of 2013 wouldn't have happened so soon. commits by year in unnethack -> https://gist.github.com/bhaak/a894033e36c07a0dbc41a035470011e1 03:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 196 points, T:418, killed by a bat 03:54 aosdict: the source code leak was in 2014, so this had nothing to do with being approached by the devteam. I (and ais as well) also only joined after been asked a second time. we both said the year before that we wouldn't have time to do anything the first time. 03:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 36 points, T:542, killed by a fox 04:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 04:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 826 points, T:1532, killed by a rabid rat 04:11 -!- oh6 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 04:12 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 404 points, T:1351, killed by a water moccasin 04:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1152 points, T:5038, killed by a rothe 04:25 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 403 points, T:1144, killed by a giant ant, while praying 04:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:5 04:31 -!- blankman has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 04:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:16039 04:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 822 points, T:913, killed by a water demon 04:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a steam vortex, on T:17682 04:40 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 04:40 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 04:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 193 points, T:518, killed by a fox 04:43 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:44 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 192 points, T:355, killed by an arrow 04:48 -!- BirthdayUmbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:49 -!- BirthdayUmbire has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:20295 05:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:06 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 05:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10168 05:21 -!- nimsumzero has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:23 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:26 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:46 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 05:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Set, on T:25197 05:50 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:02 -!- BirthdayUmbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:10 -!- spicycat has quit [Quit: spicycat] 06:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:28737 06:33 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 06:34 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 06:34 -!- tommo has quit [Client Quit] 06:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:29283 06:43 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 06:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Ghoul-queen Nitocris, on T:195035 06:55 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:59 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:13903 07:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 07:08 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 07:14 -!- spicycat has quit [Quit: spicycat] 07:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:195381 07:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:195408 07:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:36167 07:19 [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2351 07:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:36876 07:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (leprechauns), on T:24173 07:27 now that tnnt is over, what even keeps me playing nethack 07:28 <@lilith> fun? 07:28 K2: in the questionnaire, i answered the question of what should be changed with something like 'scoring of great trophy' but it seems your post-processing stripped away the part because it thought i was injecting html lol 07:28 K2: errr 07:28 K2: 'scoring of great trophy' that is 07:29 @lilith fun while playing nethack? how does that work :P 07:29 actually i had some great runs during tnnt 07:29 the arc run was great, and the second ranger run was also pretty cool 07:29 stenno: now that tnnt is over, you're free to play other variants, e.g. slex *bundlebundlebundle!* ♥ 07:30 lol 07:30 gotta admit, i really wanna play 3.7 though 07:30 <@lilith> playing variants was what i was looking forward to the most after tnnt ended 07:30 lol, I'll pass that thing like a caravan passing a pile of dung at the side of the road :P 07:31 if anything i would try evilhack i think 07:31 ^ good idea 07:32 gotta further prove my glory after my #2 player rank at tnnt 07:32 there is probably even more glory to be had with a slex ascension 07:33 there would be if it was actually possible in the current version :b 07:33 current slex version is not winnable? 07:33 well in theory 07:33 lol it is, but you have to be pretty good at the game to pull it off 07:34 and extremely lucky 07:34 every strat has been nerfed 07:36 maybe i should stick with my plan to play vanilla, just to get familiar with some new strats i learned from watching luxi 07:36 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:36 and then play the variants 07:36 oo what kind of strats 07:36 getting crowned early 07:36 using tooled horn 07:36 using polyself 07:36 well new for me 07:36 i don't usually do those things 07:37 i dont get crowned but i do tend to use polyself and tooled horn a fair bit 07:37 in my last ranger ascension, early crowning was super cool 07:37 for stormy? 07:37 thats pretty great 07:37 no vorpy 07:37 what's wrong with the scoring of great role stenno? 07:37 i dont think resists are actually that important 07:37 ah 07:38 amateurhour: i don't like it because discourages variety play 07:38 after ascending a few times with little or no intrsinic resists you realise its actually fine 07:38 5x ranger gives as much extra points as 1x each role 07:38 aoei: all resistances would allow for reflectionless strats 07:38 I like it because it lets me do my favourite role before diversifying 07:38