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05:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Abdlabl (Acu Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed Lance of Longinus", on T:51733 05:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:138651 05:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Abdlabl (Acu Dwa Fem Law) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:52047 05:52 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:52 -!- eigentLich has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Abdlabl (Acu Dwa Fem Law) killed Great Cthulhu, on T:53444 06:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:16 -!- eigentLich has joined #hardfought 06:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 06:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:29 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:40 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:40 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:56 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:01 -!- eigentLich has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 07:07 [hdf-us] 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points, T:9379, killed by an ogre zombie, while disrobing 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4 points, T:150, killed by an incubus 10:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:24651 10:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Law) was given Ogresmasher, on T:141168 10:55 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1614 11:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) was given Grayswandir, on T:26874 11:12 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 184 points, T:3057, fell into a pit 11:24 -!- blankman has joined #hardfought 11:24 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2980 points, T:2244, killed by a fire ant 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] pavelek (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2197 points, T:1804, killed by the wrath of Huan Ti 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5873 points, T:2946, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted large mimic 11:36 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1594 points, T:1317, killed by a rothe 11:53 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 165 points, T:277, killed by a jackal 12:02 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had a silver saber named Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2083 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh343] pavelek (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4971 points, T:2559, poisoned by a rotted brown pudding corpse 12:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Law) was given Nodensfork, on T:141632 12:08 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 12:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:29 !PoM 12:29 APic: The moon is new for 3 more days. 12:31 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 11588 points, T:5103, killed by a stone giant, while sleeping 12:35 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 12:38 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1276 points, T:8133, killed by a snake 12:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:55 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2449 points, T:2513, killed by a white unicorn 12:57 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 122 points, T:582, killed by a dart 13:00 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:05 !drink me 13:05 !booze me 13:05 * Beholder pours me a barrel of the hooch, prayed over by TheresaMayBot at 0 degrees Celsius. 13:05 what else ya got beholderbot? 13:05 !role tnnt 13:05 JonathanHanes: samurai 13:05 you are a kind and generous bot 13:07 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 230 points, T:1807, killed by Mr. Akalapi, the shopkeeper 13:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:12 -!- eigentLich has joined #hardfought 13:14 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 13:18 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 203 points, T:583, killed by a small mimic 13:19 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 13:19 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:25 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 13:26 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1275 points, T:1158, killed by a 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Quetzalcoatl, on T:2738 14:44 Go hilarita! (Who can't read this, but go hilarita anyway) 14:47 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:48 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1298 points, T:3177, killed by a gnome 15:00 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 189 points, T:238, killed by a grid bug 15:01 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 15:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:07 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 216 points, T:376, killed by a jackal 15:08 Pinkbeast: might be in here with another username or maybe on discord? 15:09 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 15:09 stenno1: I know her IRL; one of my fellow Crawl variant developers. (And I'm talking to her elsewhere on IRC :-). 15:09 aah! 15:09 i see, i see 15:09 crawl, eh 15:09 that other game, eh 15:10 But she does TNNT and it's nice to see her stuff coming through. 15:10 i see she is getting inspiration from an actually challenging game 15:10 :-P 15:11 don't look up how many times i have won dcss so far 15:11 the bots are all lying 15:12 Pinkbeast: wait, 'fellow'? are you developing a dcss variant too? 15:12 * stenno1 gets pitchforks and related accessoirs 15:12 stenno1: Uh... only for the last year or two 15:12 luxidream's got about 2 wins in it and all 15:13 (Hang on, "too"? AFAIK I'm the only person in here who is...) 15:13 aah i see 15:13 'too' as in relation to hilarita 15:13 -!- eigentLich has joined #hardfought 15:14 at some point a lot of good nethack players were moving to crawl 15:14 adeon, zipcode 15:14 Even as a mediocre NetHack player that is essentially what happened to me. 15:15 nomiisama but i think she was playing crawl before nethack 15:16 imma say my usual sentence 'i really have to get into crawl at some point' 15:17 but of course for now its tnnt 15:17 I'm biased, but it's worth a look; Linley Henzell set out to write a game that was not NetHack, but like Lait's POWDER, he was very aware of the conventions of NetHack. 15:18 i had some issues with it when i played and watched it 15:19 but i think i.e. the interface is vastly superior 15:19 e.g.* 15:20 -!- Sceptross has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:21 Obviously I have one or two gripes with recent developments. :-) 15:26 yeah it has been years when i last checked it out 15:27 last time was when i watched nomi ascending in some tournament iirc 15:27 maybe 3 years ago or so 15:28 I wrote http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/crawl-vs-nh.txt in response to paxed asking me about it in Helsinki, which I think is still a fair chunk of what I feel. 15:28 that url seems familiar 15:28 putty.. 15:29 oh nice 15:29 doesn't pinkbeast own that site 15:29 aosdict: No, a friend of mine does - Ian "dpkg" Jackson. 15:29 oh dpkg, i know that one 15:29 It's a traditional Unix time-sharing system run as a hobby project. 15:30 was dpkg the guy who wrote dpkg? 15:31 maybe not 15:31 No... the guy who wrote dpkg was Ian Jackson. 15:31 er 15:31 oh damn 15:31 There was an early DCSS developer with a similar-sounding name (d---) but not the same person 15:31 i see 15:31 dpeg? 15:32 Yes! 15:32 maybe not 15:32 oh! 15:32 man nethack community is full of oldschool hackers 15:32 pretty cool 15:32 Simon Tatham (as in PuTTY) is part of that general crowd, hence PuTTY being on chiark 15:32 right 15:32 and it has a nethack mode :P 15:32 Were it not for the damned plague we'd be playing boardgames about now. 15:33 aw damn 15:33 Yeah, he played NetHack at the time he wrote it. :-) 15:35 -!- Sceptross has joined #hardfought 15:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:37 lots of foss history in this 15:37 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:37 even though with WSL the reign of putty might be over 15:39 !booze 15:39 * Beholder hands nabru a schooner of grog, fermented by Izchak at 227 Kelvin. 15:46 stenno1: dpeg was also a nethack immigrant to crawl but in a much earlier wave 15:48 was i still around at that time? 15:48 er i mean already 15:48 Rodney | dpeg has played 2 games, between 20131121 and 20131123, highest score 30657, died 2 times 15:48 according to rodney, yes i was 15:52 stenno1: PuTTY seems a lot more straightforward to get installed than WSL; mind you, I only have WSL on, er, my Windows VM at work, for interest's sake. 15:53 WSL today is straightforward to install in recent versions of Windows... You can get it from the Windows appstore thingy 15:54 it's the only way to make Windows slightly less painful 15:54 This was on Win10 and it was OK, but still not as straightforward as downloading putty.exe 15:55 oh i thought it was already installed by default on recent windows versions 15:56 stenno1: that was already long time after that. when the Berlin interpretation was created in 2008, he was already at crawl for several years. he was one of the founders of the fork that would become DCSS (which, if I have my crawl history correct, was already based on a fork of the original crawl, so they forked a fork) 15:56 aah i see 15:56 so long before my time 15:57 bhaak: I don't think quite so - Linley had left, but Crawl was not a fork of Linley Crawl; what was odd was that the DCSS developers forked off an older version than the largely unplayable 4.2 15:58 (Not odd in view of the unplayability, but odd as if I sat down now and said "I think I'll fork NetHack 3.3.1") 15:58 Pinkbeast: I thought the repository on sourceforge wasn't the one from linley and crawl-ref was a fork? 16:00 http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Dungeon_Crawl accords with what I know. 16:01 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2637 points, T:3548, killed by a jaguar 16:01 (as in, a post-Linley period where there's a dev team acknowledged as Linley's successors) 16:06 okay, so I took the post-linley period as a fork already 16:14 I don't believe so - IIRC (from, say, rgr.misc) it was quite a friendly transfer, with the new dev team already working with Linley and no suggestion he would continue independently. 16:15 up until now I thought he was working on it mostly on his own and then stopped and then people picking it up for further development 16:16 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 280 points, T:1176, killed by a coyote 16:16 huh. i thought the same thing as bhaak 16:17 I can tell you Linley's last release was March '99 and there was a 3.31-pre release in April '99 with some compatibility hacks, although the "First DevTeam Release" was Feb 2000. 16:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:26 -!- eigentLich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 -!- eigentLich has joined #hardfought 16:30 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 16:31 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1086 points, T:4428, killed by a giant ant 16:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:36700 16:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:47 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1727 points, T:4355, killed by a chicken 16:52 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 16:54 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1282 points, T:2123, killed by a pony 17:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:06 -!- talkingleaf has joined #hardfought 17:10 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Client Quit] 17:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "a blessed greased bag of holding", on T:43935 17:26 Pinkbeast https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/about 17:33 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:35 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 226 points, T:621, killed by a small mimic 17:38 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:39 spicycat: I am familiar with that document and it seems to agree with what I said. 17:41 sure, i just figger it's a more useful link than badwiki 17:42 Oh, right; sorry. Thanks. 17:57 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 17:58 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00 oh crawl has a badwiki too? 18:03 it has learndb, which is pretty good and updated regularly by folks on IRC 18:03 and it has a wiki, which is updated infrequently by a small number of longwinded persons with bad strategy advice 18:04 -!- Sceptross has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06 stenno1: The Wiki is not as good as nethackwiki, but it's OK on facts. 18:07 oh so there is no goodwiki as such 18:07 not like nethackwiki vs. wikia thing 18:08 I've been enjoying the resurrected _City of Heroes_, where we have the Wikia problem, the Paragon Wiki (a good wiki for the state of the game at shutdown), but also the Homecoming Wiki (fork of the Paragon Wiki with post-interregnum information) 18:09 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 18:14 stenno1: it's a neutralwiki 18:32 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:34 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 897 points, T:868, killed by a dagger 18:43 <@mtf> Continuing my post-castle Monk run! Monks are supposed to decapitate things, right? https://www.twitch.tv/MondayTuesdayFriday 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +3 greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:3532 18:46 yes, yes they are mtf 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1055 points, T:1387, killed by a giant ant 18:52 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 18:54 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:03 -!- eigentLich has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 19:04 !ping 19:04 spicycat: Pong! 19:04 !pom 19:04 spicycat: The moon is new for 3 more days. 19:04 -!- spicycat has quit [Quit: spicycat] 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3543 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3550 19:08 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 19:16 [hdf-us] [spl] Possum (Car Dwa Nbn Law), 321 points, T:1252, fell into a pit of iron spikes 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 280 points, T:1937, killed by a giant bat 19:31 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:33 [hdf-us] [spl] Possum (Car Dwa Nbn Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1492 19:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Possum (Car Dwa Nbn Law), 1498 points, T:2163, sent to the grave by a rabid rat 19:42 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:932 19:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Possum (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 867 points, T:651, killed by a burning book 19:57 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 19:59 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:00 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:49727 20:15 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:17 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3723 20:23 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4011 20:27 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Grue, on T:52261 20:44 !pom 20:44 aoei: The moon is new for 3 more days. 20:49 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:50 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 20:50 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 20:51 soko is *so tedious and bad* that it behooves you to get into a rhythm of keying in inputs and moving the boulders along via muscle memory 20:51 but then you miss a bit of info and die 20:51 * spicycat shrugs 20:51 yes 20:52 Yep. :( 20:53 agreed 20:53 can't remember if it's riker or demo who boycotts soko 20:54 we should all boycott it 20:54 might be better for winrate, probably better for sanity, to try that 20:54 it was 2a, natch :D 20:54 fwiw i don't do soko when im speedrunning scummy wizards 20:55 i should scum up a wish so i can get back to where i was faster 20:55 well except to check the first floor wand incase it's a WoW 20:55 aoei: Yeah, you can usually find a bag fairly easily and the "oR is less essential for wizards. 20:56 how is reflection any less essential for wizards 20:56 reflection is highly needed for everyone 20:56 they both defend against MM? 20:56 aoei: Yes, but wizards have convenient alternative sources and it conflicts with their quest artifact. 20:57 i guess yeah, but only magic missiles and death rays 20:57 arahael: I rarely *wear* the Eye of the Aethiopica tbh 20:57 aoei: Curious. :) 20:57 carried is enough for most of the benefits, wearing it just gives you ESP 20:57 Ah, nice. 20:59 * aoei wonders which convenient alternative sources wizards have for reflection and can think of only SDSM, which everyone loves except monks 20:59 aoei: Also the shield. 20:59 shield of reflection is a bad idea because wizards can't cast for shit wielding that 20:59 i had that almost all typed before you even mentioned it lol 20:59 aoei: Yes, but pity the monk who's sole reflection is the shield. 20:59 It's even *worse*! 21:00 i thought monks can still cast with shield bc robe 21:00 Well, if monks can, so can wizards. ;) (With the robe) 21:00 fair point 21:00 plus im not sure the robe is even good enough to fix the shield problem 21:01 problem for y'alls is 21:01 you can't do good kung-fu with a sield 21:01 shield* 21:01 Sure. 21:01 Still, I've had to use the shield a few times as a monk. 21:02 I used it briefly in a recent wiz game before polypiling for "oR 21:04 My point is that for a monk, you pretty much only want "oR. 21:04 same for me with scummy speedrun wizards 21:04 SDSM means I can't titan form 21:04 or minotaur form 21:05 Ah, fair enough, but that is a particular decision for your strategy. 21:05 yeah 21:05 that is true 21:05 aoei: You should sleep. :) 21:05 i should 21:05 but im seated 21:05 and my bed is over there 21:05 D: 21:05 aoei: I once had the same problem after popping sleeping pills. 21:05 hahaha 21:06 aoei: Trust me, if you time it wrongly, that space in between looks *veeeeery* attractive! 21:06 XD 21:06 some people can just fall asleep at their desk 21:06 rarely has that ever happened to me 21:06 and when it did I think its cuz I was very drunk 21:07 Yeah, sleeping at the desk isn't for me either. 21:08 also i'm not sure passing out counts as proper sleep anyway 21:08 only ever did that once 21:09 Right. 21:11 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 21:14 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:20 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:31 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:33 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:00 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3272 22:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3453 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] Helios (Val Hum Fem Law), 17428 points, T:5621, killed by a human mummy 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 528 points, T:3939, killed by a giant bat 22:13 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:17 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Nalzok, on T:24442 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24446 22:58 <@based> hello. If i found a bones file of a character that previously got stoned by a cockatrice (thus they left a statue) but it is in minetown, will breaking the statue cause the guard to get upset? 22:59 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 23:00 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 23:03 @based I don't know the definitive answer, but if I was in your shoes I'd smash it out of view of the guards just to be safe. And make sure you have an escape route 23:03 <@based> okay thanks! 23:07 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:14 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:14 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 23:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:24 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:40 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 23:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 13544 points, T:4582, killed by an invisible legion devil soldier of Moloch, while praying