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Except they have a shotgun. 04:36 and they get angry at things like a random fire frog walking into their shop and exploding. 04:42 Nice. 04:44 Nice. 04:45 well in nethack its a bit too like tht 04:45 if you attack a peaceful gnome in minetown, other gnomes in LOS react to it and the watch might get angry too 04:45 i am not sure but if you were to attack a peaceful (non-watch?) human, maybe the shopkeepers would react too 04:46 *sigh*, energy vortexes. I hate them. 04:46 What _is_ the best way out of a vortex in general? Dig? 04:46 no, digging only works against non-swirly monsters 04:46 like juiblex and purple worm 04:47 I see. 04:47 Ideally just kill it 04:47 Magicbane does nicely, at least. But I should do it from a distance. 04:47 failing that, teleport out of it, or if you're on a no-teleport level, teleport it away from you. Or zap opening or slow monster. 04:47 Or scare it. 04:47 If you lack shock resistance, be very careful using melee attacks. Ranged attacks are safe. 04:48 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 04:49 Ah, good point, I'm not sure if I have shock resisstance. 04:49 I do have the wizard's eye, so if in a bad spot, I could always use that. 04:50 ah, nice. 04:52 *sigh*, I do hate it when monsters use a spell of striking at potions of gain level. 04:52 FF 04:52 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:00 *sigh*, three thrones. All did... Nothing. 05:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:05 Why are "the lurker above" classed as a warning level 3? They've never seemed to be a big deal at all? 05:06 its monster level/4 05:06 and lurker above have base level 12 05:06 Ah, fair enough. 05:08 I don't understand why it happened, but once I zapped a wand to get out of an energy vortex and that caused wands to explode 05:09 maybe the wand was cursed? 05:10 it could have been, though the message made it seem like it was energy vortex's fault 05:10 this was quite a while ago, so I've just never zapped e.g. slow monster to get out since 05:10 energy vortices are really nasty enemies 05:11 like those midgame nasty monsters 05:11 together with pyrolisk 05:11 I've geno'd them before for that reason 05:11 early throne geno 05:12 pyrolisk is like, 'i _really_ hope you have bagged your potions and scrolls and books or else they will all explode in your face' 05:13 I always blind myself if I absolutely can, yeah. :( But early game that's sometimes not possible. 05:13 -!- tjo has joined #hardfought 05:13 i said it very often already, but i think the most unfair thing in the early game is the magic trap 05:14 and polytraps in later mines 05:15 yes 05:15 either for you losing armour or monsters turning wicked nasty 05:15 thanks to poly's not respecting level depth... 05:15 a highly questionable design decision 05:16 there is a difference between challenging randomness and total chaos 05:18 I'm always terrified of the poly traps. 05:18 I find the early game much harder than any other part. 05:19 well we talked earlier about it, it really depends on how you play your game 05:19 Yes, the way I play mine is: "Don't make things harder". 05:19 :D 05:20 then geno L lol 05:20 eh, mixing chats now 05:25 ;) 05:33 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Wiz Dro Mal Neu), 37 points, T:172, eliminated by a succubus called Vanessa 05:34 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 05:44 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:51 What happens if I stone the deathmatch guy? 05:52 They die. 05:53 After burning through their half-dozen lizard corpses. 05:55 Interesting. I think I'll do this - but nto now. Much later, once I'm ascension-worthy. 05:56 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 226 points, T:739, cut down by a gnome zombie 05:59 So it's not thunderdome time? 06:00 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:00 my one had eight lizards 06:01 the main problem is being able to hit them at all, you really need a highly enchanted weapon, good skill and good luck 06:01 yeah 06:01 And to not die to their cockatrice corpse 06:01 heh, yeah 06:01 stalling until they wield a weapon is advisable. 06:02 Ah, because they often wield them too. Wow. 06:02 I'm trying to find fort ludios. 06:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] PeachMuffin (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5595 points, T:3354, killed by a baby long worm, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:18 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:29 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:59 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Wiz Dro Mal Neu), 162 points, T:353, defeated by a dwarf 07:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:71987 07:05 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 07:18 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Pri Inf Mal Law), 628 points, T:2133, overpowered by a kitten 07:30 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 459 points, T:1159, murdered by a hobbit 07:31 they are still player monsters, right? meaning they cannot wear rings 07:43 they might be wearing the rings, but monster ring wearing has no implementation behind it so they're inert 07:44 for example a ring of free action which the player might have worn 07:45 this is basically my idea about it 07:45 I can't remember if they will be wearing it or not (the equipped items system certainly allows it) but it has no effect 07:49 yeah alright so it confirms my initial idea 07:50 i will try some things after i ascended that Ranger 07:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:72853 07:56 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:05 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 08:29 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:35 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3366 08:36 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3460 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1645 08:37 -!- eLich\unfoog has joined #hardfought 08:39 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4463 points, T:3652, killed by a wand 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:2286 09:02 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Pri Ang Mal Law), 1245 points, T:1912, struck down by a boar 09:03 -!- Jonathan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3601 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3627 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3817 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:16248 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:17008 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a soldier ant), on T:5578 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1179 points, T:17915, killed by a Woodland-elf 10:03 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:03 [hdf-eu] [fh] Croesus (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 50362 points, T:21565, killed by an energy vortex 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 16372 points, T:6595, killed by a soldier ant 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 445 points, T:647, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Bartlem's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:4812 10:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] azide (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 300 points, T:769, killed by a poisonous corpse 10:34 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1445 points, T:3135, killed by withering away 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1911 10:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:45 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Sam Gno Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1179 10:47 HELLO MR SHOUTY 10:49 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Sam Gno Mal Law), 802 points, T:1418, killed by a volatile mushroom's explosion 10:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:59 -!- Jonathan_ has joined #hardfought 11:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] azide (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1443 points, T:3115, killed by an invisible werejackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:02 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 11:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:10 YASI: new monster: weremacht 11:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:35465 11:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35471 11:32 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:45989 11:32 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 11:38 -!- Jonathan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:48 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:52 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 11:52 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 12:12 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Pri Ang Mal Law), 46 points, T:53, taken down by a jackal 12:15 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:23439 12:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23443 12:19 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Pri Inf Mal Cha), 180 points, T:744, dismembered by a kobold 12:22 -!- tromix has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:45 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Pri Inf Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2424 12:45 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Pri Inf Mal Law), 2596 points, T:2426, quit 12:49 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 163 points, T:580, done in by a newt 13:02 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:05 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1792 13:05 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:10 * NCommander rattles 13:11 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a steel heavy war hammer on an altar, on T:3480 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3625 13:21 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:21 [hdf-eu] [fh] Croesus (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 45124 points, T:10013, killed by a gnomish wizard's wand 13:22 YANI: Artifact saddle 13:26 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3445 points, T:3459, quit 13:27 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:31 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:31 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 13:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 13:33 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 13:43 in the nethackwiki article about potion of gain level is the following sentence: 13:43 There is also an couple of alchemy recipes for producing them. 13:43 is this correct? Shouldn't it be 'a couple' if anything? 13:43 yes, a couple 13:43 also "are ... a couple" 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3827 13:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:55 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 13:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:59 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:03 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Alucard, on T:48480 14:12 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 249 points, T:795, killed by a silver elven dagger 14:12 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 14:19 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 14:28 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: NAE TROOSERS] 14:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:31 im not quite sure why, but it appears im short one bag of holding and its contents, since last night... 14:31 ive no idea wat i did 14:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:32 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Val Ang Fem Law), 172 points, T:614, killed by a gnome lord 14:32 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:1 14:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:34 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 14:34 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36 it might be worth watching your ttyrec tommo to find out 14:36 oh! how do i? i haven't done that before 14:37 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 14:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 14:37 download some form of ttyrec viewer (I've heard jettyplay is popular) then find your ttyrec files 14:37 I'll link to the files, sec 14:37 bless u 14:37 it's easy on hdf 14:38 what's your usual username again? 14:38 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tommo/tnnt/ttyrec/ 14:39 uhm tommo 14:39 you blew it up 14:39 oh 14:39 on the first level of soko 14:39 cool cool 14:40 :( 14:40 its not like it had a wish or anything ^^; 14:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:40 lesson learned, go to bed on time :P 14:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41 ouch :( 14:41 thanx 4 the sleuthin, hehe 14:41 saved me installing a a JDK etc 14:41 no problem, I lose stuff all the time and have to check ttyrecs to see where I lost it 14:42 just wish I had better news to report this time :P 14:42 haha ya, no worries :D 14:42 i got 2 blessed wish lamps in minetown, now its back 2 one i guess 14:42 its a valkyrie, it'll b fine :P 14:43 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Patriarch, on T:48550 14:43 i believe that's about to be a thing of the past (bag exploding and losing contents) right? with 3.7? 14:43 or did i dream that 14:44 ya, i think the plan's to explode the bag itself & litter the contents, rather than annihilating them 14:44 unless i was in ur dream 14:44 that's how it is in evilhack 14:44 hrmm 14:44 kay im not sure then 14:44 no you're right 14:45 if wand of wishing is made of glass, you're still screwed 14:45 and you lose potions obviously 14:45 not wands tho? 14:46 just if they break 14:46 you still lose 1/13 of your items iirc 14:46 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 14:46 really? maybe 14:46 see that doesn't sound so bad at the moment 14:46 i put magicbane in boh in eh a long time ago and it happened 14:47 Yah it has the same chance of destroying items as does taking them out or putting them in a cursed boh 14:47 IIRC 14:47 oic 14:54 man, i'm kind of deep to not have teleport scroll id'd... 14:55 weird game 14:56 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48859 14:56 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48860 15:17 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Val Ang Fem Law), 436 points, T:1105, dismembered by a gnome 15:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:36 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 15:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:56 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Pri Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3953 15:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qbert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:21059 16:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:04 The bag explosion in 3.7 is basically still guaranteed to destroy all potions though. 16:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qbert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:21200 16:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qbert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Enchanter, on T:21291 16:11 [hdf-eu] [spl] Rooks (Pri Inf Mal Cha), 4078 points, T:4870, killed by a chameleon imitating a landshark 16:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:19 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 16:23 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 16:39 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 16:48 -!- eLich\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:50 -!- eLich\unfoog has joined #hardfought 16:52 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 16:54 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 17:02 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 17:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] minimcloving (Val Dwa Fem Law), 37 points, T:455, killed by a water demon 17:05 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:09 -!- introsp31 has joined #hardfought 17:12 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:15 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:30 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:32 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7001 18:00 -!- k-man has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:07 -!- k-man has joined #hardfought 18:07 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] azide (Val Dwa Fem Law), 371 points, T:1562, killed by a black pudding 18:21 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:8783 18:48 why exactly does fainting from lack of food make you deaf? 18:48 never understood this 18:51 Quite easy to loose your hearing from anything, really, but yeah, not sure about the fainting thing, unless you hit your head on the way down, which *could* cause it. 18:51 Would be rare though. 19:00 -!- introsp31 is now known as introsp3ctive 19:10 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 19:11 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 19:13 -!- eigentLich has joined #hardfought 19:16 -!- eLich\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9175 19:24 -!- TheGame20 has joined #hardfought 19:34 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:34 -!- nehrman has joined #hardfought 19:43 <@nabru> ! pom 19:43 @nabru: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 9 days. 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 261 points, T:981, killed by a gas spore's explosion 19:46 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 19:49 31 hdf-us players right now 19:49 cool 19:51 no its 36 :P 19:51 now 19:51 so far i've seen as many as 47 but for all i know its been more 19:51 i need to setup a tracker or something. i think bhaak has one for junethack 19:52 well, for the registered users. not for the online players 19:53 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1533 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 565 points, T:1571, killed by a giant ant 19:55 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 19:58 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:59 -!- eigentLich has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh13d] shinybrick (Arc Mal), 100 points, T:136, hobgoblin 20:07 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 20:07 -!- elenmirie___ has joined #hardfought 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Adept, on T:5289 20:10 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:11 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:21 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2532 20:23 -!- bug_sniper__ has joined #hardfought 20:23 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 20:23 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest66685 20:23 -!- Guest66685 has quit [Killed (rothfuss.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 20:23 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 20:24 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 20:26 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:26 -!- tjo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:27 another random bag of holding 20:27 god i love bag drops 20:27 harder to tell on non xnethack thoguh 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] shinybrick (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1615 points, T:2851, killed by a human zombie 20:29 -!- nehrman has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:30 elven kings are no joke :( 20:31 ye 20:31 they just use their wand of fire 20:31 and you die 20:32 how are bag drops easier to identify in xnethack? 20:32 I don't know either 20:33 xnethack shows weight 20:33 normal nethack does not 20:33 so I can just put in without having to encumber myself to see my current weight 20:33 oh. it's not particularly hard to weight test in vanilla though. just more tedious 20:33 yeah, I just pick up stuff until I'm encumbered 20:33 then check if it's a BOH 20:34 I once thought about adding a new item: scales 20:34 informal id of any bag is pretty easy since you can dip a maybe-oilskin bag into water and see if it runs off 20:34 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 20:34 -!- nehrman has joined #hardfought 20:34 really? 20:34 good to know 20:34 that's vanilla 20:35 suggested by me, but still vanilla 20:35 that should auto-id 20:36 iirc it does 20:36 yes 20:36 bhaak's momma should auto-id 20:36 :V 20:36 * aoei will remove herself from the premises now 20:37 oh, but it doesn't tell 20:42 Tommo [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] BilldaCat [tnnt] Frozty [nh370] ezion [nh370] eitm9l [spl] shinybrick [nh343] 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] shinybrick (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 1156 points, T:1578, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:44 but unambiguous id messages that don't auto-ID items result in incredibly interesting gameplay 20:44 spicycat: lmao 20:44 you're funny 20:44 i like you 20:44 spicycat: example? 20:45 !tell 20:45 FIQ: !tell (leave a message for someone) 20:45 hmmm 20:45 the part where you pause the game to doublecheck the wiki because you're pretty sure you remember what that message means 20:45 [hdf-eu] [nh4] test (FIQ) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:7, killed by a falling object 20:45 it's engaging! 20:45 like a divorce! 20:46 w/e 20:46 where did this line come from: +Beholder | Tommo [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] BilldaCat [tnnt] Frozty [nh370] ezion [nh370] eitm9l [spl] shinybrick [nh343] 20:46 very engaging! 20:46 spicycat: I made it so that anytime a message would unambiguously identify a wand, it gets formally identified 20:46 (ofc for the ambiguous ones you still have to check the wiki) 20:46 it is a mystery 20:47 hell yeah moon-child 20:49 moon-child is the best 20:49 i <3 moon-child 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] shinybrick (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 272 points, T:694, killed by a small mimic 20:49 I wonder if nethack could use an angband like thing, maybe the first time you see a scroll with a message it gives a message, but once you id it, it'll auto id in future games 20:50 angband has this for monster information 20:50 you mean continuous tracking of data across games? 20:50 I considered this for fiqhack, but figured that people would just be using the wiki anyway 20:50 yeah, but just for auto id purposes 20:50 moon-child: have you also considered the case where the message is ambiguous in general, but not currently as you already have id the other wand that could produce that message so it is actually unambiguous for the current game? 20:50 yeah... but it would make sense for newbies who don't wish to spoil things fully 20:50 not sure how many of those are around 20:51 bhaak: iirc fh does that actually 20:51 at least I added some code that would handle it, idk if I enabled it because that feature is somewhat unfinished 20:51 (basically, having the game automatically exclude things through process of elimination for you) 20:52 yeah, unnethack does that as well 20:52 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52 which game does moon-child dev 20:53 moon-child halps dev slex i think 20:53 probably slex 20:53 slash'em I think? 20:53 aoei: this sounds way too nice for slex 20:53 FIQ: the mysterious hanging message appears to be what happens when someone does !who in a PM and it overflows the message limit. 20:53 slex has some nice things 20:53 isn't a slashem variant automatically also a slex variant? 20:53 no 20:53 bhaak: no? why would it be? 20:53 bhaak: other way round 20:54 that's weird. slex should probably print incorrect id messages 20:54 xD 20:54 biased so that players are likely to shoot themselves with a wand of death 20:54 slex is a variant of slashem that has everything there is, so any slashem variant is a subset of slex 20:54 bhaak: a unnethack variant isn't automatically a dynahack variant 20:54 same principe 20:54 FIQ: but slex is not normal 20:55 slex is the black hole that sucks everything up and never let go 20:55 slex is an abomination 20:57 bhaak: slex is where skill cap display originated 20:57 but it's OUR abomination 20:57 incidentally 20:58 even a broken clock is right twice a day in terms of featureset :) 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3159 20:58 it's more like a quantum clock whichs show all the time. so it's right and wrong all day long. 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3612 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1107 points, T:3612, killed by a bat 21:07 [tnnt] Tommo [tnnt] Maud [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] Frozty [nh370] eitm9l [spl] shinybrick [nh343] 21:08 what a silly death 21:08 > reads a book 21:08 > dies 21:10 sounds like one of the better ways to die. 21:11 "died while reading a book" 21:11 <{Demo}> "died while dying" 21:12 FIQ: slex also has blessed destroy/enchant armor prompting you for an item. I don't know which other variants have that 21:13 bhaak: I've (independently) considered doing that @ blessed destroy armor 21:13 in fact I was going to, but ended up forgetting lol 21:17 wait you don't get prompt for what item to enchant? 21:18 didn't realize that was a slex only feature 21:22 bhaak: did consider that, but at some point you can't play the game for the player. It would be kinda like doing price id on the player's behalf 21:22 that's just called a helper 21:23 moon-child: if you feel that way, you can make it only prompt if the scroll is identified 21:28 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 21:30 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:32 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 21:35 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:48 Interesting, if there's no room for money, you automatically get credit instead. 21:48 (when selling something) 22:01 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3698 22:02 Ayyyyy, I just hit the indenify scroll jackpot 22:02 *identify 22:05 moon-child: why would having a beneficial effect if blessed count as "playing the game for the player"? 22:11 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law), 2116 points, T:3835, sent to the grave by a chameleon imitating a velociraptor 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:5912 22:22 <@riker> 6x4 lep hall had 3 full healing pots on the dudes 22:22 <@riker> nice? 22:24 it wasn't until this game that I realized how much you can just hang out in the rogue quest and farm nymph/lep spawns 22:27 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 22:28 how common are dark mines? 22:28 I have gotten lit mines a total of once in my various playthroughs so far 22:28 think it's 50% 22:28 per level 22:28 except in fiqhack/xnethack 22:28 allthough with that said I have yet to see orctown 22:28 so I guess rng has been nice enough 22:29 aosdict: really, it's lit in fiqhack? :P 22:29 I had no idea 22:29 I thought that was where I got it from 22:29 according to my commit msg 22:30 it's too late in the evening, my sarcasm detector is offline 22:31 something is causing pets in 3.6 to behave erratically in the mines 22:32 at some point I should, both in vanilla and in NH4, create some sort of AI debugger 22:32 to try to figure out why the AI is making some nonsensical decisions at times 22:33 I suspect what is happening is that the pet concludes "ooh an item I want to pickup!" except the item is buried inside a wall and thus it gets stuck doing weird shit 22:33 in the mines, that is 22:33 [hdf-us] [dyn] me3 (dragonspeaker) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2835 points, T:3468, killed by a tiger 22:34 my first TNNT game was orc-town 22:36 wow, a +4 leather armor 22:36 not bad 22:40 umm 22:40 since when do bags generate cursed? 22:40 did you nab it off a fake bones pile 22:40 because that's when 22:41 there wasn't a corpse, but it did sit on a trap 22:41 yup 22:41 probably rotted 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:4003 22:41 -!- PavelB has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:41 ok so be careful with bags on traps, good to know in the future 22:41 [hdf-us] [spl] eitm9l (Val Ang Fem Law), 2485 points, T:1966, killed by a copper orcish arrow 22:41 and other items I suppose 22:49 <@luxidream> $whereis riker 22:49 <@luxidream> !who 22:49 !whereis riker 22:49 @luxidream: [hdf-us] dragonspeaker [dyn] NOP [tnnt] rebatela [tnnt] iyarkonan [tnnt] ToneHack [tnnt] dgoddard [tnnt] allanb [tnnt] aosdict [tnnt] mwrynn [tnnt] Jes [tnnt] BilldaCat [tnnt] eitbo [tnnt] zoya [tnnt] BuccaneerBob [tnnt] eitwinston [tnnt] jonathanhanes [tnnt] darkmiz [tnnt] bouquet | [hdf-eu] Muad [tnnt] | [hdf-au] Tangles [tnnt] drunkmonkey [tnnt] Andrio [tnnt] 22:49 [tnnt] Frozty [nh370] ezion [nh370] sohlman [slex] KaiHerd [nh343] 22:49 FIQ: riker is not playing. 22:50 @luxidream idk what bot you're thinking of (some dcss one?) but beholder uses ! :P 22:50 FIQ: Croesus 22:50 the tnnt bot 22:50 ah 22:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:50 <@luxidream> wrong channel 22:50 * aosdict looks around irascibly after getting pinged for a minute and settles back down 22:51 <@luxidream> chaos cacaos! 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 154 points, T:516, killed by a little dart 22:53 <@luxidream> did you remove the aos ping :p 22:55 no 22:55 sometimes people (umbire) legitimately call me that 22:57 -!- nehrman has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 22:57 -!- nehrman has joined #hardfought 23:06 What was someone saying about Craosus, the tnnt bot? 23:09 YANI: dipping walking shoes in levitation will turn them into levi boots 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 shuriken on an altar, on T:6895 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 371 points, T:1548, killed by Mr. Svaving; the shopkeeper 23:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:25 YASI: dipping any kind of boots into a potion of polymorph, polymorphs them into boots of polymorphitis. 23:28 -!- nehrman has left #hardfought 23:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:34 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59 !role tnnt 23:59 JonathanHanes: rogue 23:59 noooooo 23:59 why 23:59 I guess it must be done eventually