00:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:33175 00:00 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 967 points, T:1216, jackal 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:26823 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26826 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:6720 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:29493 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3417 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a giant zombie), on T:30430 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3515 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3567 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger named (non-cursed) on an altar, on T:3660 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:31398 00:53 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a sasquatch, on T:3669 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3911 points, T:3670, killed by a priestess of Anhur 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:33068 01:01 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 01:01 -!- bugsniper__ has joined #hardfought 01:02 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a salamander, on T:33590 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1937 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Val Hum Fem Law), 2491 points, T:2795, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed by a monster 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:35574 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:36230 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased ring of conflict", on T:37239 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:37252 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 420 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:37417 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:37587 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37842 01:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:38087 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 366 points, T:1077, killed by a dwarf 01:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] PeachMuffin (Sam Hum Mal Law), 772 points, T:1806, killed by a jackal 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39056 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39061 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:39094 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:39210 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:39302 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:39304 01:31 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 01:34 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34 -!- bugsniper__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed gain level", on T:39974 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy bugle named TONECHAMP", on T:40702 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:40703 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:40704 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "wand of fire", on T:40862 01:41 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:40952 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:40970 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:41056 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1318894 points, T:41079, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1602903546.nh.html 01:43 gratz Luxidream 01:43 what was your time? 01:44 <@luxidream> bad 01:44 <@luxidream> haven't checked yet 01:45 about 1:44? 01:45 <@luxidream> no I started this game earlier 01:45 oh, no. 2:44 01:45 <@luxidream> it's probably like 3 hours or something 01:45 <@luxidream> it was rough 01:45 <@luxidream> oh, 2:16 01:45 you got through the plane of water pretty quick. That's nice. 01:46 <@luxidream> yeah I really don't like the searching change that makes you stop all the time 01:46 <@luxidream> other than that it went well 01:46 werd. 01:47 I think my fastest ever was 5hrs and it was in Un somehow. Just had a screaming fast lucky run. 01:47 <@luxidream> there's something wonky about un realtime 01:49 <@luxidream> I had some runs that seemed faster than they should have been 01:49 I think I had broken ribs or something so I was just sitting around and couldn't move so I had a lot of time and attention to dedicate. 01:50 anywho, thanks for the show. 'night 01:50 <@luxidream> night šŸ™‚ 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 123 points, T:444, killed by a kobold 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:1040 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1054 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2073 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:1069 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:1071 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:1073 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3322 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4386 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1695 02:11 Laptop is being repaired, so only have my ipad at the moment. :( 02:12 Curiously... In the game... 02:12 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 02:12 > The Wizard of Yendor hits the invisible Wizard of Yendor. The invisible Wizard of Yendor hits... 02:12 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 02:12 -!- bugsniper__ has joined #hardfought 02:13 They seem to be on a mission to "destroy the theif", even though I haven't actually stolen anything yet! 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6402 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6622 02:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:56399 02:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:56409 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8570 02:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:9208 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 23190 points, T:9209, quit 02:27 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:28 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 02:32 What happens if a wand of death explodes - does reflection and MR still protect you? 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3561 02:38 why am I "burning to a crisp" inside of a steam vortex, not "boiling to death"? 02:38 steaming doesn't make things crispy! 02:38 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 02:39 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:56670 02:48 Sigh. Yeenogu. 03:01 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 03:01 How come I can't level teleport into level 51? (I've never been to level 51, however) 03:01 I'm on level 50. 03:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:15817 03:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Winds, on T:57015 03:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:18450 03:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law), 25785 points, T:18450, killed by a scroll of genocide 03:12 eek I thought the scroll was uncursed but it was blessed 03:13 arahael: level 50 may be the bottom level, try digging 03:13 if you can only dig a pit (not a hole) you're at the bottom 03:13 raisse: Yeah, I think you're right - I've now found the priestess of moloch, so this must be the last level. 03:22 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:57212 03:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:34 I've realiseed just how insane AC of -30-something is. I actually mostly melee'd the priest until I gave up and just deathed him. 03:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:57268 03:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7134 03:55 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:58 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:57459 04:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:12 Going up and down levels is annoying whilst carryhing the amulet, I keep randomly having to repeat the levels. 04:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:59387 04:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:59388 04:39 arahael: ah, don't go down them 04:39 You're on the ascension run 04:39 Pinkbeast: I was trying to go up. 04:39 Indeed. 04:42 I tried to watch, but I don't see you on hardfought or eu. 04:42 I'm on .au 04:42 ah 04:42 Actually my health is poor right now, I'm considering wishing for 2 blessed potions of full healing. 04:43 I hope you are wearing an AOLS, on viewing your game 04:44 I am. 04:44 I'll wish for the full healing potions now. :D 04:45 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed potion of full healing", on T:59811 04:45 Crap. 04:45 Must've made me burdened. 04:47 Good call 04:47 Ok, that makes no sense... How does one drop something in a plane of air... Only to then pick it up again? 04:47 It hovers nearby 04:47 Ah, I guess. 04:49 Also, don't take anything I say as Gospel truth, I play DCSS these days - but can you detect the portal with ... ah, never mind 04:50 Yeah, I actually forgot where it was - that's the second time I did that scroll. Didn't want to waste it. 04:50 Don't forget that (say) a steam vortex is an opportunity to rest up and gain HP 04:50 But I have an excess, anyway. And yeah, I did notice that, once my HP started getting low I started doing that, but it wasn't getting back up quite fast enough. 04:50 Maybe I should wish for another full healing just in case. 04:50 I'd get off Air first. 04:52 * Pinkbeast shivers with antici... pation 04:53 Sorry, my wife's interrupted me, I need to stop for dinner. :( 04:53 Later! 05:08 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:11 Dinner is over! Was a quick one. 05:12 what did you eat? 05:14 Thai green vegetable curry. 05:14 nice 05:15 Yeah, but I prefer it when I cook it with chicken. :) 05:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10773 05:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of full healing", on T:59854 05:23 Interesting, my ring of levitation is cursed now, I don't seem to be able to take it off. 05:24 how far are you now? 05:24 Plane of water. 05:24 I'm considering taking my "oLS off, and putting the "oMB on. 05:25 don't do it, just geno ; if you're worried 05:26 Already done that ages and ages ago. I have spitting cobras instead. :) 05:26 Looks like when the bubbles move, I mvoe with it automatically, so feels fairly safe... 05:26 yeah just toot your bugle till you get to the portal lol 05:27 water plane is lame 05:28 I'm thinking I should wish for another 2 potions of full healing - the ones I got on the plane of fire exploded. 05:29 how many do you have? 05:30 Zero. :) 05:30 Oh, wishes? Hmm... A couple, I probably should re-count them. 05:31 3, including the wresting. 05:32 FOund the portal. 05:34 nice one 05:34 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of full healing", on T:60077 05:34 imo a chickatrice corpse is worth wishing for 05:34 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:60077 05:35 For this plane? Ok. 05:35 My ring of lev is cursed anyway, no way I'll take that off. :D 05:35 keep levi on and free action and go wild 05:35 the riders are immune to petrification but two of them can be zapped with wand of death 05:36 they'll revive so don't hang about 05:36 don't zap their corpses with teleportation by mistake 05:36 Good to know. Which two? 05:36 Oh? 05:36 Death is immune to death (easy to remember) 05:37 pestilence is the most dangerous, might be worth making yourself satiated 05:37 for famine 05:37 just quickly vomiting out some last minute tips lol 05:37 :D 05:37 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed chickatrice corpse", on T:60078 05:38 Hmm. Locked door. 05:39 Ah, still have the credit card, all good. 05:39 kick it down 05:39 you can't move diagonally through open doors but you can through destroyed doors 05:40 I can't kick, I'm levitating. 05:40 ah 05:40 Ah,apparently death is inspired by Terry Pratchett. Curious, I remember one of his novels where Death was thinking about his own vague sense of mortility. 05:42 "Up thy nose with a rubber hose!"? That can't be death...? 05:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:60090 05:44 Sounds like that must be an Imp. On the Astral Plane! 05:45 Can I kill the high priests, or would that still be murder? 05:46 I can't remember, don't think it'd be worth it anyways 05:48 I THINK I HAVE A PROBLEM - I need to find an alternative to melee'ing death. :/ 05:48 How does one recover the life? 05:48 just move on 05:48 you know this one isn't the altar 05:48 just move to the next one and forget about him 05:49 that 5 might be pestilence as well 05:49 Ah, interesting. 05:49 or it might be an angel, just keep an eye out 05:50 Hmm, I'm in very bad shape now I think. 05:51 zap death 05:52 I'm going to zap *Famine* 05:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:60153 05:55 unlucky 05:55 time for the grand tour 05:59 Heh. Famine and Pesty. 05:59 Good dragon! 06:01 pestilence is the most dangerous 06:01 Yeah, I'm not sure what to do here. 06:01 got a full healing potion still? 06:01 Yeah. 06:01 I'd try zap death once then quaff full heal 06:01 Pestilence, you mean? 06:01 as in 'zap the wand of death' lol 06:01 confusing sorry 06:02 Ah, heh. 06:02 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:60231 06:03 yesssssssss 06:03 Finally. 06:03 woooooo 06:04 good job not panicking when both riders were at you 06:04 I don't seem to panic easily. 06:05 Well, I guess it's #offer time 06:05 :D 06:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Tou Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3540 06:05 It's weirdly hard to do! 06:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:07 I had 4 spare death charges... and a spare wish. 06:07 Way too many freaking scrolls. 06:08 heh 06:08 +7 defense bonus. 06:09 "You were lucky." understatement 06:09 :^) 06:09 Not only were I lucky, I had extra luck. :D 06:09 And I was lucky in the real, too! 06:09 congrats arahael! 06:09 first asc? 06:09 First ascension. :) 06:09 woooo \o/ 06:09 \o\ 06:10 I never did run out of wishes or deaths. 06:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Tou Inc Fem Neu), 30535 points, T:3972, killed by Mr. Semai, the shopkeeper's zombie 06:11 I extincted erinyes... I should find out what those were... 06:11 they're just a demon 06:11 Ah, indeed, and only ever 3 of them. 06:11 they're not particularly strong and have a spawn limit of 3 06:11 yeah 06:11 It probably would just as easily say I extincted Juiblex. 06:12 Oh, wow - and I never hit with a wielded weapon! Unintentional conduct, that! 06:12 nice! 06:12 9 wishes! And I still had wishes to spare! 06:12 <@microlance> thats impressive tho, its hard not to hit with a pick axe 06:12 ^ 06:13 artiwishing conduct too, gratz 06:13 Wishes came after I got magicbane. 06:13 now do it again but vegan 06:13 :P 06:13 Haha. :) 06:13 evilhack next! 06:13 Oh, and btw, this is a *lawful* monk. 06:14 hey mobileuser we like arahael, we can't shackle him in K2's evil dungeon 06:14 them* 06:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 3482486 points, T:60250, ascended 06:15 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1602540914.nh.html 06:15 but evilhack monk is so much more powerful! 06:15 lies 06:15 gratz again arahael ! 06:15 congratulations arahael ! 06:15 ask rebatela 06:16 dnh monks are the best 06:16 grandmaster martial arts with grandmaster twoweapon 06:16 aww yiss 06:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1165 06:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:1105 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 727 points, T:1377, killed by a bugbear, while praying 06:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Hum Fem Cha) had a large shield entrusted to her by Loki, on T:2268 06:22 How long do those logs last for? 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 240 points, T:124, killed by a cave spider 06:22 I'll have to think of which my next game will be. Probably not a vanilla lawful monk! Maybe chaotic? Maybe indeed evilhack? 06:24 they should last forever 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 76 points, T:153, killed by a giant mimic 06:24 neutral monks can wish for the eye of the aethiopica if you want a more spellcasting focus 06:25 Yeah, maybe that might be a good choice. 06:25 How many lawful monk ascensions have there been anyway? Where are those sort of stats? 06:27 there is a nethack scoreboard but I don't think it tracks how many there have been 06:27 https://nethackscoreboard.org/ 06:28 !lg on #nethack might be a good way 06:28 is there an equivalent for hardfought? 06:31 Time for some Glenfiddich, in any case. :) 06:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:7932 06:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 947 points, T:1065, killed by a magic missile, while praying 06:38 ah yes the welsh version of quidditch, good choice 06:40 lawful is my least favourite for monk personally, peaceful mines and mysterious force are annoying 06:40 mysterious force? 06:40 the thing that drags you down in gehennom once you've got the amulet 06:41 Ah, yes. And yeah, that dragged me down a LOT. :( It was annoying. 06:41 I basically had to crawl out four times. 06:42 yeah, it's worse if you're lawful 06:42 no mysterious force in evilhack O:3 06:43 Nice. I thought it was weird and didn't add anything to the game at all. 06:43 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:44 arahael you'd probably like evilhack really 06:44 I much prefer the game itself to the ascension. 06:44 The ascension is a bit... Boring? 06:46 which part? 06:46 the planes? 06:47 <@microlance> levelporting around gehennom i guess 06:47 From the moment I picked up the amulet. 06:47 I never successfully levelported! 06:48 I tried to levelport when I went down after doing the invokation, but I was already in the final level. 06:49 <@microlance> thats what i mean, levelporting randomly around in gehennom after picking up the amulet is the worst part of the game 06:50 Ah. Yeah. 06:51 My enjoyment of the game went way down once I picked up the amulet. Replaced only with an excitement of maybe actually ascending, but the acension process was meh. 06:52 I also would've prefered to have more time to explore moloch's sanctum, but like the astral planes, speed was of the essence. 06:55 Perhaps I should try Priest next. 06:55 Or Wizard. 06:55 good idea 06:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 642 points, T:1286, killed by a bolt of lightning 06:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed fixed +3 dragonhide T-shirt of ESP", on T:54205 06:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) permanently converted to chaotic, on T:9920 07:06 !variant 07:06 amateurhour: dnethack 07:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Hum Fem Cha) had a cloth armor entrusted to her by Loki, on T:11064 07:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1848 07:21 evilhack feels less documented on the wiki, that would make it much, much harder. 07:22 it has a pretty great wiki article really 07:22 You say that in the singular, though...? 07:23 yeah, everything is on one page 07:23 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack 07:23 Ah, yeah -I've been reading that. 07:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12217 07:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Hum Fem Cha), 15754 points, T:12640, poisoned by an orcish arrow 07:29 I think there should be a book called "Don't Panic", and it should give the player any information they require - such that instead of using the wiki you use that guidebook instead. 07:29 And tourists shoulD start with it. 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2166 07:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 509 points, T:1711, zombified by a gnome zombie, while sleeping 07:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3618 points, T:2769, killed by a quasit 07:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 581 points, T:1173, killed by a giant rat 07:47 * arahael is still feeling the glow. 07:48 <@ichbinmiah> congratulations arahael!! 07:48 Thanks. :) 08:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:12248 08:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 288 points, T:897, killed by a gnome lord 08:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:12326 08:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Orc Fem Una), 2926 points, T:3446, killed by a hill orc called Thosogunog of Oth-aul, while praying 08:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 2508 points, T:3261, killed by a killer bee 08:46 @ichbinmiah I got your private message earlier, you had already resolved your issue by the time I saw it :P 08:47 <@ichbinmiah> @K2 yep, got it all figured out, thanks! 08:48 o/ 08:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:13342 08:53 go teamsplay! 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 364 points, T:1061, killed by a hobbit 09:07 mm it doesn't have the same ring as teamsplat 09:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:16991 09:22 ARAHAEL: CONGRATULATIONS!!!! 09:23 grand tour too ! 09:23 and they managed to get weaponless! 09:24 a monk that can manage with just wands of digging isn't at high risk of breaking weaponless :) 09:24 wow buzzkill 09:24 i couldn't disagree more aosdict lol 09:25 he probably knew the spell too 09:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:18328 09:26 doesn't xnh prompt you when you're about to break it? 09:26 only if non-"beginner" 09:27 otherwise it'd be annoying for all the barbs and valks of the world to get prompted for it upon hitting their first lichen 09:27 not a perfect system 09:28 how does it work with the livelogging (just talking about any variant) ? Like, obviously it doesn't report everyone hitting for the first time.. It must be a minimum count? 09:28 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:34462 09:28 that's set on the server side iirc 09:29 the livelog is always recorded, but the hook for Beholder can choose to ignore it based on several metrics 09:29 oh ok 09:29 i have mine set to like 6k or something 09:29 so if I break weaponless before that, no one ever knows 09:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:19335 09:33 -!- callforjudgement has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v callforjudgement] by ChanServ 09:33 -!- callforjudgement has quit [Client Quit] 09:35 i just checked my evilhack game turn count 14,580 and i no longer have weaponlesss. i never get the damn thing 09:35 one day you'll get it 09:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:38 i'm always hitting w- 09:38 such a bad habit 09:38 but the one time you neglect to is when you hit with that damn pickaxe 09:38 maybe try for the pickaxeless unofficial conduct? 09:38 me too, haha, it's a hard one to break when switching to another role 09:38 luckily magic lamps don't count as weapons or i would have broken it with them many many times 09:38 like, how hard can the game really be without pickaxes 09:39 does aosdict play nethack? 09:39 Just Say No To Pickaxes 09:39 lol 09:39 i'm just kidding man, but your variant has paranoid pickaxing or whatever! 09:40 rebatela: if I use pickaxes as a non-arc, it's almost entirely in the early game before I have dig wands, and then only when I want something nice like to break into a vault 09:40 so to me, forgoing pickaxes seems like it is somewhat harder to get into vaults and gems out of the wall and stuff, but the rest should largely be unaffected? 09:40 yeah i think i dig more than most people 09:41 I dig a lot in gehennom 09:41 i always dig down, not like dfv but i put a hole in every room 09:41 the one exception being wine cellar (but even then, dig wands) 09:41 depending on the amount of digging wands I've found by that point I bust out the pickaxe 09:42 I'm willing to do a little extra walking in gehennom for the sake of not carrying a pick 09:43 it's not about a bit of extra walking, it's about minimising amount of wizard encounters on the way up 09:43 giants are cool because you can climb down the holes... I don't know how that helps strategically, but it's fun 09:44 they need to make a role that can climb up the holes? Like, why can't you go up the holes when "flying" ? 09:44 I'm willing to maybe face the wizard once or twice more for the sake of not having to carry a pick and spend time terraforming gehennom 09:45 i have like 60 ascensions on this account i think and i've gotten the conduct maybe twice lol. and i almost always never use a weapon ! 09:46 seriously, just try to play a game without touching a pick. see how you like it 09:46 in the early game, pre-wand? I don't even see how that's possible...It SUCKS in evilhack not having one because the mines are often blocked with water 09:46 I thought we were talking about vanilla 09:47 you have 60 evilhack ascensions? 09:47 hell no 09:47 4 09:47 total 09:47 maybe not.. that was a guess 09:47 !asc rebatela 09:47 aosdict: [hdf-us] rebatela has ascended 38 times in 10277 games (0.37%): nh363:32 (0.41%), evil:4 (0.20%), nh370:1 (0.44%), nh343:1 (0.94%) | [hdf-eu] rebatela has not ascended in 94 games. | [hdf-au] rebatela has not ascended in 1 games. 09:47 4 it is 09:48 !asc aosdict 09:48 rebatela: [hdf-us] aosdict has ascended 3 times in 73 games (4.11%): gh:1 (10.00%), nh363:1 (10.00%), xnh:1 (3.33%) 09:49 oh wow grunt 09:49 !asc aosdictj 09:49 amateurhour: [hdf-us] aosdictj has ascended 6 times in 104 games (5.77%): fh:1 (9.09%), gh:1 (10.00%), nh4:1 (16.67%), un:1 (33.33%), spl:1 (20.00%), xnh:1 (11.11%) | [hdf-eu] aosdictj has not ascended in 1 games. 09:49 lol ur son aosdict junior has more ascensions than u 09:49 we are a proud nethack family 09:49 when I go to scoreboard and click all it says i have 70 09:50 other servers? 09:50 oh yeah nao 09:52 !asc mobileuser 09:52 rebatela: [hdf-eu] mobileuser has ascended 25 times in 113 games (22.12%): evil:17 (50.00%), nh370:8 (61.54%) 09:52 You don 09:52 You don't die in evilhack 09:53 that's the impressive part imo 09:54 17 evilhack ascs?! that's eye-popping 09:54 too damn good at not dying 09:54 you must freak out when you die though mobile LOL 09:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:21904 09:56 aosdict: even better than 17 ascensions, they've ascended every role ! 09:57 and almost every race as well 09:57 that's pwning the game 09:58 bah my laptop just died 09:59 rip in peace :( 09:59 thx ;-) 09:59 well it's back up now, how do you think I'm talking to you 09:59 trying to keep an elf alive now 09:59 from your son's computer 10:02 i'm watching elenmirie's game. just made it to valley 10:02 infidel 10:06 <@ichbinmiah> does a delicatessen only sell booze or fruit juice? 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4609 points, T:3457, killed by a Green-elf 10:06 <@ichbinmiah> besides water that is 10:07 water booze and juice i believe 10:09 and healing 10:09 er sorry 10:09 thought you were talking health food 10:10 <@ichbinmiah> gotcha. delis and health food stores are different iirc 10:10 yep 10:10 i kill them both lol 10:11 health food does not sell booze or water, instead selling healing and full healing (and still juice) 10:11 <@ichbinmiah> hehe 10:11 speaking of which, i have a deli in my game! 10:11 and i have reflection. You just got this guy killed ichbinmiah! 10:11 <@ichbinmiah> well there went my asc streak. šŸ˜› my samurai fell from level 9 to 13 and then got death-poisoned by a quasit 10:12 ugh 10:12 :( 10:12 i always play monks so i forget all about poison resistance. so huge 10:12 poison is kind of bs really 10:13 <@ichbinmiah> my dumb fault. I should have Elberethed immediately upon falling really 10:13 I didn't even know quasits could poison you like that 10:13 any type of poison attack 10:13 doesn't need to be str poison 10:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:24535 10:16 hmm maybe i should keep the meat slicer alive since there's no general store in this dungeon or minetown 10:16 i can at least throw rings and scrolls in to price id 10:19 <@ichbinmiah> ooo, silver dagger drop 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Sam Hum Mal Law), 78 points, T:274, killed by a wand 10:21 where are you playing ichbinmiah? 10:24 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 10:24 next time I get a genocide from a throne I'll do displacer beasts 10:24 almost got killed by one just now, before I managed to put it to sleep 10:25 but it did give me intrinsic displacement! (don't know if that's permanent) 10:25 <@ichbinmiah> rebatela: over on NAO today, I wanted to get familiar with 3.6.6 again before tnnt 10:26 it's temporary raisse 10:26 ah 10:26 such a tease... 10:26 yes, and very short-lived, never got to actually use it 10:27 yeah like 200 turns or something 10:27 they should make it last like 500 turns or something 10:27 felt more like 20 10:27 oh yeah. it's very short 10:28 oh it's not 200 turns it's 6d6 turns 10:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided displacer beasts, on T:26267 10:28 lol 10:29 that's so pointless 10:29 between 6 and 36, so 20 was a pretty good estimate 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 84 points, T:354, zapped herself with a wand 10:39 oh brilliant 10:39 killer bees eating royal jelly to become queen bees 10:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided master liches, on T:54818 10:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:31614 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 241 points, T:1767, killed by a fox 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:58, killed by a fox 10:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6236 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 271892 points, T:21612, quit 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 181 points, T:1006, killed by a gas spore's explosion, while helpless 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Marksman, on T:25217 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 414 points, T:2270, killed by a dwarf 11:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12981 11:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Cerberus, on T:55074 11:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 1012 points, T:874, killed by something while blind 11:22 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1038 points, T:2664, killed by a copper crossbow bolt 11:32 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 11:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 1945 points, T:1593, killed by a baby yellow dragon, while helpless 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 427 points, T:1445, killed by a boiling potion 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3459 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3493 11:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:32489 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3676 11:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32495 11:49 [hdf-eu] [spl] microlance (Rog Inf Nbn Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2168 11:49 [hdf-eu] [un] bhaak (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 660 points, T:1489, killed by a giant bat 11:51 [hdf-eu] [spl] microlance (Rog Inf Nbn Cha), 3160 points, T:2379, sent to the next life by a baby purple dragon called Catboy, while praying 11:57 bhaak: thoughts on implementing dilapidated armories as a themed room rather than a special room? (this would be me implementing in xnh, not talking about vanilla) 11:59 aosdict: this should be possible for the most part. the only thing I can think of that I'm not sure is possible is the message you get when you enter the room? 12:00 I guess, occurrence probabilities are easier to do in code than in the themed room 12:01 bhaak: right, not asking about feasibility, more asking about do you think it works better as a special room or a themed 12:01 for instance, as a special room it'd be a lot more common per average game 12:02 yes 12:02 and yeah themed rooms don't have room types or level flags, thus no sounds/msgs associated, though if it were desirable to have them I have a pretty good idea of how it could be done 12:03 with frequency and mindiff, you could probably get a pretty similar distribution of the themed room. not quite as fine-grained as a coded room, but close enough 12:04 if implemented as a themed room I think I would leave it as frequency 1 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3637 points, T:6958, killed by a crocodile 12:05 -!- every has joined #hardfought 12:05 is there any reason to have two different types of these rooms? 12:05 or can they be unified 12:06 -!- every has quit [Client Quit] 12:06 themed rooms are a new feature 12:07 amateurhour: I think I would rather add dilapidated armories as a themed room, than using the special room system. 12:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 6686 points, T:3408, killed by a battle-bat zombie 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 3125 points, T:2069, centaur 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 243 points, T:591, killed by a hobbit 12:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 426 points, T:2840, killed by a copper crossbow bolt 12:20 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 12:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:712 12:28 where did the dilapidated armory come from orginally? 12:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 5519 points, T:2274, killed by an orc-captain 12:29 I think it was originally a patch on bilious, I could be wrong though 12:30 i first saw it in unnethack 12:30 maybe taken from spork, not sure 12:30 it was a patch by L 12:30 I don't think any of his patches were on bilious 12:31 https://bilious.alt.org/?159 12:31 maybe someone else added it there then 12:31 ah, then I'm wrong 12:33 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1017 12:35 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3188 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 644 points, T:1434, killed by a giant ant 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 1087 points, T:2525, killed by a hobbit 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 35 points, T:92, killed by an orcish dagger 12:40 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 3282 points, T:2939, killed by a dwarf, while helpless 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 375 points, T:696, killed by a hobbit 12:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2811 points, T:2740, killed by a gas cloud, while being terrified of a ghost 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 303 points, T:1592, killed by an electric shock 12:44 I should try out evilhack 12:44 loli: it's very fun 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2610 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37449 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37459 12:49 loli - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack 12:49 ^ if you want to be spoiled 12:50 foooood time 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3600 12:51 "The mysterious force has been removed." everyone seemss to remove this 12:55 that's the one change i don't like that it seems every variant makes 12:55 (it's SUPPOSED to suck) 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:37650 12:56 BUT, the ascension run in evil is not easy. The force is replaced by other things 12:57 rebatela: the ascension run can be made to suck in less directly frustrating ways :) 12:57 Didn't vanilla just nerf the mysterious force too with 3.7? 12:58 it did. I was and still am advocating for outright removal 12:59 I might be the only player who thinks it's a good thing.. It drives you CRAZY, and that's the whole point 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6177 13:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Gehennom, on T:55084 13:00 driving players crazy -> they don't want to play nethack anymore 13:02 nah... It sucks equally no matter how OP your character is or how good at nethack you are... I love it 13:03 no one is going to stop playing nethack because of the mysterious force. If you make it that far, you're a fan of the game 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:7846 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an apron on an altar, on T:7881 13:06 people not playing nethack anymore doesn't necessarily mean new players who haven't ascended yet. the force is a large contributor to "the game gets a lot more blah after the castle, and what's the point of playing through this unfun late game" 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:37886 13:07 oh I thought it was that the game was too easy at that point... People remove the force because it's annoying to them 13:07 k2 plays evilhack and doesn't want to deal with mysterious force, so he removed it. 13:07 aosdict: the game gets better after castle? 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:37894 13:07 I felt like my run was really getting good until I died stupidly 13:09 having to cross juiblex's swamp multiple times while your heart is beating like mad is part of the run imo 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10539 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:11575 13:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 18110 points, T:6916, killed by the Rat King 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Set, on T:13287 13:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given the Rod of the Ram, on T:19673 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:17732 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1355 13:23 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 13:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2340 points, T:2674, killed by a plains centaur, while praying 13:27 <@microlance> i keep getting the same hellhole orc town with like 5 ghosts now, i must be cursed. 13:28 :( 13:28 I had a minetown with two of my ghosts before...w as just vageuly annoying, not threatening 13:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:21931 13:28 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:19487 13:29 rigboom 13:31 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 13:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given the Silence Glaive, on T:23285 13:35 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:22180 13:38 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:23972 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39466 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:25246 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:39477 13:52 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:52 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:25482 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:25956 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 85140 points, T:26405, killed by a minotaur, while praying 13:59 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Collector, on T:36471 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:39711 14:02 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:39733 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36617 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:36620 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3217 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3606 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4887 14:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given the Grappler's Grasp, on T:40078 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5054 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:36859 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3532 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cloudy potion on an altar, on T:3536 14:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given Fire Brand, on T:27685 14:07 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3902 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4010 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6320 14:10 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10 -!- bugsniper__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:37022 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:37024 14:13 [hdf-us] [un] groovejumper (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 3133 points, T:3529, killed by an owlbear 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2279187 points, T:39751, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rancat/nethack/dumplog/1602355957.nh.html 14:15 grats 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:37415 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9163 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10508 14:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 22552 points, T:9814, killed by a leocrotta 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered RUFFY, her faithful large dog, on T:10626 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 17430 points, T:10902, killed by a fire elemental 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:38987 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:39091 14:34 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:39278 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3049 14:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:39307 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:39369 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2697868 points, T:39392, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DexSG/nethack/dumplog/1602813879.nh.html 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6442 points, T:7761, killed by a mumak 14:48 grats 14:48 <@dexsg> Thanks! 14:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 253 points, T:832, killed by an invisible hobbit 14:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given the Fluorite Octahedron, on T:40665 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 351 points, T:1496, killed by a little dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:56 @dexsg what do you think of 3.7? 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3059 points, T:3480, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:00 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- bugsniper__ has joined #hardfought 15:01 <@dexsg> i only had one ascension on 3.4.3 so I won't say I was super attached to the old version... I generally like 3.7, it cuts down on a lot of frustration with stuff like amensia and BOH explosions changes 15:01 <@dexsg> I've used both new amulets and found them useful, I like the new monsters 15:02 <@dexsg> I really like the special rooms, especially the room with traps on every other tile 15:03 <@dexsg> How do you feel about it stenno? 15:04 i really really really 15:04 like it :) 15:04 it addressed so many issues i had with the game 15:04 insert hide the pain harold? ;) 15:05 <@dexsg> Of course I love 3.7, every change is amazing, please send me more bones files with wands of wishing 15:05 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05 -!- bugsniper__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07 <@dexsg> Oh yeah the teleport rules change for demon lairs 15:07 <@dexsg> no longer burdened with walking around asmodeus's house if i have to go up and down 15:09 amnesia was partly removed, mysterious force was nerfed, purple L at castle doesn't exist anymore 15:10 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 15:10 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 15:10 -!- bugsniper__ has joined #hardfought 15:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2174 15:10 <@dexsg> I've actually read a scroll of amnesia on purpose, which is cool 15:10 i have said it in the past that i am running out of things to complain 15:11 hm there was something about it that even makes it useful? was it about skill points? 15:11 so you can reskill oslt? 15:11 <@dexsg> Yep 15:11 yeah thats super cool 15:11 adds such a strategic element to it 15:12 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 15:13 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 15:13 <@dexsg> I will complain about soldiers carrying around the WoW chest in the castle. It makes me sad to see the Elbereth+scare monster guarding nothing 15:14 <@riker> 3.6 is a downgrade from 3.4.3 entirely because it adds orctown 15:14 <@riker> sorry i dont make the rules 15:15 -!- unsound_ has joined #hardfought 15:15 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 15:16 * paxed takes away menucolors and statuscolors from @riker 15:16 -!- unsound__ has joined #hardfought 15:16 <@riker> friendship ended with nethack 3 15:16 <@riker> nethack 1.3d is now my new best friend 15:16 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:17 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:17 <@dexsg> OG rogue is coming out on steam soon. Reject modernity 15:18 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:19 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3378 15:20 a feature from 3.4.3-NAO that i miss is the unicode support 15:20 you could do so many silly things with that 15:21 settings (unicode) symbols for each single item/monster/dungeon feature 15:21 <@riker> emoji nethack when 15:21 3.6.0 implemented something like that but it was a bit lackluster 15:21 <@riker> actually, that sounds like a fun "tileset" or whatever. just a different emoji for each monster 15:21 @riker well its possible on 3.4.3-NAO, i played as a pile of poo 15:21 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 15:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15869 15:22 <@riker> lol. did you configure a full dungeon's worth of monsters tho? :P 15:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3684 15:22 nah 15:22 i think the pile of poo is still in the rcfile on NAO 15:22 oh wait that rcfile probably doesn't exist anymore >.< 15:23 interesting if you consider that the original rogue also had a smiling face as the character icon 15:23 we have come full circle 15:24 -!- bugsniper__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24 I hear Rogue's being released on Steam 15:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16040 15:24 but Tyr we don't neeed itt 15:26 [hdf-us] [un] RossinK (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 174 points, T:239, killed by a gelatinous cube 15:26 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- bugsniper__ has joined #hardfought 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5214 15:28 i am not interested in playing it 15:28 what license is rogue? 15:28 who put it on steam? 15:29 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29 -!- bugsniper__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29 -!- bugsniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29 <@riker> it's open source, isn't it? 15:29 that doesn't say anything about it being allowed to be sold 15:31 Rogue' source was eventually added under a BSD software license within 4.3 BSD 15:31 <@riker> highly unlikely that it woudl actually be sold on steam 15:31 <@riker> i'm guessing it would probably be free? 15:31 oh 15:32 hm but still 15:32 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 15:32 but that is probably less problematic then 15:32 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 15:32 -!- bugsniper__ has joined #hardfought 15:32 it's Epyx Rogue if that distinction matters to you 15:32 the one that was originally ported to IBM PCs apparently 15:33 I wasn't even born when rogue came out so idk the history 15:33 that's what articles are saying though 15:33 <@dexsg> hmm the publisher has a few other old Epyx games for like 5 bucks 15:34 <@riker> I don't think I'd be upset if they put it for like, 99Ā¢ or something like that 15:34 the epyx rogue graphics are beautiful, I wish the rogue level could be made to look like that on the server (it can on windows) 15:34 @riker software licensing is no joke 15:34 <@riker> fair 15:34 slex steam release when? 15:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:41159 15:35 amateurhour: heh I wish I could at least announce the 2.68 release at last... had planned to do it this week IIRC but of course I won't make that deadline 15:36 we play, we say, 2.68 release today! 15:36 nah don't worry about it 15:37 no mad rush or anything is there 15:37 -!- bugsniper__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37 unless there's a reason you gave yourself a deadline? (I nearly typo'd that as dadline) 15:38 was there alredy other slex ascensions apart from tariru and porkman? 15:38 not other than Amy 15:38 stenno: you mean since porkman's streak? no, the two are still the only non-Amies who ascended it 15:39 gotcha 15:39 amateurhour: no particular reason, I'm just dying to see this new version go live because everything is so much better (although the average player probably won't notice a huge difference) 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:13158 15:39 porkman is just such a beast, imo he doesn't get enough recognition 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13170 15:40 idk where they went, I hope they come back 15:40 he already said he wouldn't play slex again because "omg you nerfed my exploits how could you, amy you are such a filthy harlot conceived by satan!" :P 15:40 back in the days i used to trash talk them into playing insane unnethack character combinations but he actually did it and even won 15:41 what was 'exploited'? 15:41 like 'foodless atheist convict vampire' and stuff 15:41 haha lucky you, he wouldn't ever try an ironman bleeder in slex even though he could probably win one 15:41 amateurhour: uhh I just happened to have made a lengthy reddit post that doesn't go into too much detail but https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/jczunh/is_it_possible_for_somebody_to_beat_onetwon/ - basically he found a way to have all the spells at max spell memory, thousands of HP, all relevant skills maxxed out and everything 15:42 3.4.3 has quite some of those exploits 15:42 I'm grateful though, having a min-maxxer powerlord exploit the hell out of your game can show you where you need to nerf, even if it maximally pisses off said player :P 15:42 and i guess slex is not even based on 3.4.3 but on slash'em which is probably based off an earlier version? 15:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Vorpal Blade, on T:40886 15:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:35190 15:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7237 15:43 'not trying to diss this player but' 'noob with an ascension streak' 15:43 ouch lol 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:6848 15:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:7307 15:43 slash'em started at about 3.3.1 but ultimately merged in 3.4.3 iirc 15:43 <@riker> hey amy, what was the exploit? i'm curious 15:44 ah ok 15:44 @riker: combination of factors really, spellbooks being basically infinitely readable if the char's skills are high enough (hence capability of reaching 2000% spell memory), and certain spells (charging, throne gamble, one point shoot...) being absolutely brokenly OP 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6896 15:44 <@riker> throne gamble bc wishes? 15:45 <@riker> oh, and also the max hp gain? 15:45 throne gamble in particular has a chance of unlocking new skills or increasing the cap of an already known one, and porkman managed to make it so that he could just sit there, wait for mana to regenerate, and cast away 15:45 <@riker> ahhh i forgot slex adds that 15:45 nah no wishes from that spell, but everything else that a throne can give 15:45 <@riker> yeah that seems pretty good 15:45 so yes, +maxHP too 15:45 -!- tromix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:45 <@riker> what's one point shoot do? 15:46 it uses up one bullet (of which he had thousands) and gives you a target cursor that you can just put anywhere, dealing massive damage to the monster at the location 15:46 rooty tooty point n shooty 15:46 combined with a way to detect monsters from a distance, bosses were suddenly extremely easy to kill 15:46 yeah this guy earned his streak 15:46 <@riker> oh wack 15:47 no other player had actually gotten to the point where those high-level spells were regularly usable (not me either), so it was he who discovered just how OP they were 15:48 <@riker> how do you even do that? 15:48 do what? 15:48 <@riker> just, have a lot of mana, as much eregen as possible? 15:48 <@riker> and be high level w/ a lot of spellbooks & spellbook reading boosts? 15:49 well the main hurdle is the high failure rate of those spells, but his wizard in particular was obviously capable of getting high skill levels in those spells and reaching 0% fail 15:49 <@riker> ah, redguard right? 15:49 not many characters have the skill set required to make a level 7 occult or chaos spell castable but wizards do 15:49 ah yeah redguard has eregen 15:50 <@riker> so as a wizard he can get high skill and then use ereen 15:50 <@riker> yea 15:50 redguard is quite possibly one of the easymode races too, and of course wizard is just plain OP :P 15:50 <@riker> lol 15:51 <@riker> wdym? i see no flaws at all in infinite spell casting 15:52 a spell as powerful as throne gamble shouldn't be infinitely castable, otherwise it just becomes a matter of "how long do you want to keep doing this, isn't having every single skill capped at expert good enough?" 15:52 (and 1000+ max HP) 15:52 so you deleted throne gamble, right? 15:52 what do you mean "deleted"?! 15:53 oh, what did you do instead then? 15:53 nerfnerfnerf :D 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2411 points, T:2814, killed by a dwarf 15:53 what did you do to nerf it? 15:53 <@riker> remove all the good bits! 15:54 * aoei nerfbundles Amy 15:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9302 15:54 increased the chance that it backfires and made it much more likely that it loses d1000% spell memory after a successful cast (cannot go below zero, of course, but obviously can't be cast any more if this causes the memory to be set to zero) 15:55 is it learned via a spellbook? 15:55 so the player would have to keep re-reading the spellbook to keep being able to use it, which now also has less charges on average and is more likely to either explode or get only one more charge when read :P 15:55 well uhh spells are generally learned via spellbooks... there's also the scroll of wonder that teaches a random spell but with 200+ spells you rarely get the one you want 15:56 aren't there spells and techniques you learn by training certain skills? 15:56 techniques yes, spells no (but a technique named "wonderspell" exists that works like the scroll of wonder) 15:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Qwesti's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:9546 15:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:9554 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 831 points, T:1842, killed by an energy vortex 16:02 that reminds me, eventually I should add the info about which skill unlocks what technique to some slex wiki page in my userspace 16:04 just make individual articles per skill in the main namespace :^) 16:05 and also one article for each role and race? :D 16:06 and one for each monster please 16:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law), 48634 points, T:10897, killed by an Olog-hai 16:09 including each of the jonadab-script-generated ones, yes? surely players want to know all the stats of a "tackle deice", "drum stint reluctance", "admirer linearly" or "outstay worked multicolored chiding"! 16:11 that sounds fair to me, yeah 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:8823 16:15 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:16 oh and let's not forget the quadrennial sodden ratchet either, as that particular script monster is even a specific role's starting pet! (and it's as useless as one would expect :P) 16:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3312 16:22 lol thats great 16:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3617 16:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4044 16:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:4044 16:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4142 16:26 can lawful non-knights (samurai) dip for excalibur in 3.7? 16:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law), 908 points, T:1833, killed by a hobgoblin 16:27 yes? 16:27 :P 16:27 shoooould they though? 16:28 afaik it's only evilhack that's changed that 16:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Qwesti's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:4301 16:28 spork too 16:28 i bet evil has it from spork 16:28 nerfing valk seems like a bad idea to me 16:28 as it's what we collectively seemingly always recommend to new players 16:28 well they get mojo 16:28 thats true 16:29 thanks. I have a memory of dipping endlessly for excal as a samurai. I guess that was Evilhack. 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1752 16:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a tengu corpse, on T:4615 16:31 amateurhour: it seems ridiculous to keep in valk's excal access at level 5 because valks are the community-approved beginner role 16:32 like, if that's the sole reason standing in the way, it's a silly reason 16:32 I don't think it's a silly reason 16:33 I'm not opposed to a better alternative of course 16:33 make mojo 100% reliable when thrown with gop? 16:33 i mean it is a bit OP 16:33 but if the suggestion is "remove excalibur for all non knights" with nothing else then I'd say nay 16:34 amateurhour: can still wish for it 16:34 because I think it's quite valuable to have an 'easier' pick for new players 16:34 or maybe make it a valid sac gift 16:34 (which i think it isn't?) 16:34 valks are already quite a solid fighter role for a beginner and relying heavily on excal could be a crutch 16:34 i can see both sides i think 16:35 a crutch... that helps get them into the game 16:35 i guess 16:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:2034 16:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 8492 points, T:5356, killed by a gnome 16:35 but mb valk also fun to play without excal 16:35 I'm trying to coerce an officemate to play during tnnt, he's never played before 16:35 I'll be recommending dwarf valk and trying to give them a little hand holding here and there 16:35 by the time you're consulting strategy advice and spoiling yourself that the best route forward is to dip for excal, you're already "into the game" 16:35 in my opinion, priests should be the beginner role 16:35 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 16:35 they are so versatile 16:36 lol. i know you're only joking but for some reason it always bothers me a little when you talk about coercing your colleague into playing nethack :P 16:36 how is it coercing and not just regular convincing? 16:36 but they don't have high damage output without artifacts so its not as good for new players 16:36 aosdict: well this is the issue that makes it sound uncomfortable 16:37 tho im sure they're not literally blackmailing their coworkers to play nh 16:37 it is just regular convincing <_< 16:37 stenno: quite a lot of roles are "good" beginner roles or have elements that make them attractive to beginners. 16:37 unless...? 16:37 unless? 16:37 no, it is just regular convincing 16:37 monk and rogue too 16:37 er 16:37 monk and ranger 16:37 elf ran is so strong in the early game 16:37 but they have really poor midgame lol 16:38 hmm 16:38 sam starts with a bow so they can do melee and ranged 16:38 and they get snickersnee which is almost as good as exca 16:38 just the drain res of exca is so super strong lol 16:38 the ones that aren't are... arc, cav (maybe), hea, rog, tou 16:39 tbh i loved to splat a rogue when i was still a newbie 16:39 they were just relaly fun to play 16:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:40 We may not be defining beginner players the same way. 16:40 kni can be nasty 16:40 (if they didn't have exca) 16:40 I'm thinking, players who know the controls but haven't really gone far beyond DL1 yet. Not yet at the point of "trying out new roles and splatting for fun" 16:41 i think for such a player, kni is quite the challenge 16:41 sounds like you're thinking of players that don't even get to the beginner flag being removed or something 16:41 aosdict: ok yeah fair 16:41 they have to understan weight management and also riding 16:41 and understand how/if they use lance 16:41 knights are pretty tough early game yeah 16:42 they have so much potentialy but they're clumsy and weak at the start 16:42 one argument for letting them have excal still ^ 16:42 also just as a flavour thing 16:42 exca is really quite the power spike for them 16:42 yeh 16:42 Excal is *the* knights sword 16:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:43 cav is terrible for beginners too 16:43 <@riker> just make knights start with excal 16:43 <@riker> ez 16:43 i didnt find cav that hard but i also didn't even try one until i'd ascended multiple times 16:43 although - i heard aklyses are really good now 16:43 @riker lol no 16:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible every2's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3099 16:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3364 16:46 cav has to understand that a) his club is not a good weapon at all and b) the _stones_ they start with is just dead weight 16:46 their* 16:46 and their armor also sucks 16:47 wiz _might_ be hard for beginners too because they re so squishy and you have to do food management 16:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:47 wizards are cool af tho and just super badass if you survive long enough 16:47 yeh if you know what you are doing 16:48 idk I saw Eidolos get pretty far on a letsplay 16:49 eidolos, well known in the nethack community as a total noob? :P 16:49 yes the very same :D 16:49 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 16:49 i guess maybe he played a little bit dumb on the video for the lols 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 210 points, T:578, killed by a giant mimic 16:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14725 points, T:4310, killed by a white unicorn 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3364 16:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Law), 398 points, T:1288, killed by a giant bat 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43070 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2349 17:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Hum Mal Neu) stole 712 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Glenbeigh's second-hand bookstore, on T:1162 17:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:18917 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3068 17:07 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 17:08 Manā€¦ I just cannot hit this invisible water demon. Iā€™ve tried like 100 times. 17:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1742 points, T:1712, killed by an invisible hill orc, while sleeping 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4661 points, T:3719, killed by a bolt of cold 17:10 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 17:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 17:10 I think I need to polymorph myself into something very powerful with high to hit 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1875 17:14 Beholder: messages? 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a titan, on T:8094 17:15 that's a bit of a surprise; nethack4.org is now running on new "hardware" (a different virtual machine with different specifications, a different operating system, etc.) and a lot of things have changed internally 17:15 although it should look much the same to players 17:15 <{Demo}> i hope its arm based 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2871 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2992 17:17 I have no idea what CPU it's using, actually 17:17 re: excalibur dipping, slex changes it too, by making it so that non-knights have about six times lower success chances (but it's still possible to obtain it for any lawful char) 17:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2275 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:25663 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3573 points, T:3873, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping 17:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 425 points, T:753, killed by a hobbit 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 31 points, T:104, killed by a boiling potion 17:21 ais523: is the server-client part of nitro still in nh4? 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4 points, T:182, killed by a sewer rat 17:21 stenno: yes 17:21 but it isn't publicly exposed because the interface between them is full of security holes 17:21 so it uses EPOLL still and wont compile on macos? 17:21 right 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:43803 17:22 it won't compile on Mac OS X for other reasons now, Apple keep changing the way the build chain works 17:22 blep 17:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25699 17:23 it is unlikely that I will have the energy to fix things there at any time in the near future, especially as I typically need to borrow someone's Mac (over ssh) to do it 17:23 fair, thanks 17:23 er idk why i said thanks lol 17:24 the Mac toolchain used to be almost identical to on Linux 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1093 17:24 but nowadays there are a large number of differences, e.g. the way you link in libc works more like on Windows than it does on Linux, with a separate import library rather than linking against the libc directly 17:25 sounds annoying :/ 17:26 last time I was looking into fixing this, I realised that I would effectively need to end up writing my own version of nm 17:26 which isn't as bad as it sounds because the import libraries use a text-based format, but is still more work than I was able to do at the time 17:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3031 17:26 and things have apparently changed a lot more since 17:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3054 17:26 not familiar with that program 17:27 in effect, it scans a library and tells you how to link against it, it gives you a list of what the library provides and what it needs in a text-based format (but consistent enough to be machine-readable) 17:28 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 589 points, T:1091, killed by a kitten 17:28 it's a standard tool for figuring out what's going on when you have an unknown library, aimake uses it to figure out which libraries it's meant to be using 17:28 i see 17:28 I found agreat youtube channel 17:29 it talks about various animals as if they were different classes within a game, with tier lists and such 17:29 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 112 points, T:192, killed by a fox 17:29 TierZoo, if anyone is curious 17:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 29 points, T:129, killed by a rabbit 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3421 17:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 21 points, T:53, killed by a goblin 17:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 379 points, T:622, killed by a gecko 17:36 Tier is german and means animal 17:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:4165 17:36 <@riker> !ping 17:36 @riker: Pong! 17:37 !bing 17:37 !Bong 17:38 bananaphone 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7605 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law), 9834 points, T:5795, killed by an ettin zombie 17:39 wot 17:39 Luxidream does not simply die 17:39 what is going on here 17:40 snow on top of mt. mansfield 17:40 \o/ 17:45 aoei: luxidream's strength is in wallclock speedruns, not necessarily amazing asc ratio 17:45 aosdict: orite Tariru was the one with 100% slex win 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3197 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3225 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3233 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3433 17:46 well that's an interesting sequence of events 17:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19416 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4689 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a coyote corpse on an altar of Mog, on T:5608 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Issek, on T:7716 17:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6506 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:8439 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9683 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 11491 points, T:9804, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed 17:59 LarienTelrunya: your wiki edit was a perfect net +1000 characters :) 17:59 <@riker> smh luxi, rookie move 18:00 <@riker> !lastgame luxidream 18:00 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1602970781.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 18:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7139 18:00 all the gdsm in the world won't save you from touching the forbidden chicken 18:00 aosdict: whoa, didn't even notice :) nice! 18:00 <@luxidream> yellow light 18:00 <@riker> ah rip nvm then 18:00 maybe you should have wished for gloves instead 18:00 <@riker> lol 18:01 now the https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Skills page lists all the techniques unlocked by skills, although I guess the list is rather ugly and unsorted and doesn't say what the techs actually do; amateurhour: don't look at it since you won't be enhancing 99% of those skills anyway ;) 18:01 <@riker> hdf-us Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale gloves", on T:9803 18:02 LarienTelrunya: does slex have enough skills that it's possible to do something to 99% of them (such as not advancing them)? 18:03 ais523: uhh I'm afraid not, there's 75 skills right now ;) 18:03 are there bostaff skills? 18:04 or nunchaku skills? 18:04 <@riker> slex should add fighting forms for every single weapon type 18:04 if there are only 75 skills, how can I do something with 99% of them 18:04 <@riker> by doing something with 100% of them, of course 18:05 well my point was, which may have been misconstrued, that if you give me 10 different range skills I'm not going to grind them all to expert 18:05 K2: arguably nunchaku should be its own item rather than a flail alias 18:05 I'll just pick one and use that 18:05 K2: there actually is a bo staff in slex but it uses the quarterstaff skill ;) 18:05 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 18:05 amateurhour: fair, but what do you do if you run out of ammo for the one weapon you've trained? 18:05 napoleon dynamite is not impressed 18:06 have you ever ran out of e.g. shuriken? 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bot (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5220 18:06 there's like 10 variants of each ammo type, and they're dropped in stacks of like 200 from certain enemy types 18:06 uhh yes? if you use ranged weapons a lot, they'll mulch away quickly 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3428 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3883 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4054 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4078 18:08 and similar argument for melee weaponry, I'll just pick one as it takes ages to train them up even if there's infinite skillpoints 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4225 18:09 well for melee weapons I do usually just pick one and train that, but if I later find an awesome artifact for a different weapon type, I might switch (at least in slex where I have enough skill points) 18:09 also if I have the polearms skill I almost always train that too because ā™„ polearms ā™„ they're excellent to have around (again, this statement applies only to slex for me) 18:10 polearms are very fleecy! ā™„ (did I mention that I love polearms?) 18:10 LarienTelrunya: does slex have wereobjects where every so often you just transform into an inanimate object and sit on the floor doing nothing until you revert 18:10 <{Demo}> spd 18:11 aosdict: hahaha that could be evil... there is however the werefloatingeye, if you turn into that you'll have speed 1 (IIRC) and no active attack so you're not very capable of doing stuff either 18:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:8687 18:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8747 18:12 however I need to get some sleep now; good night guys! 18:12 night Amy' 18:12 *fleecyherzchenbĆ¼scheling* 18:13 <@riker> peace amy 18:13 sleep well 18:13 aoei *bundlebundle* dream of lovely shoes! :) 18:13 :D 18:13 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 7544 points, T:4047, killed by a rabid rabbit, while helpless 18:17 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bot (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6453 18:18 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 18:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 18:18 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 18:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:9518 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:11766 18:20 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 18:21 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:15703 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:15837 18:22 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:23 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 18:23 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Peregrinator, on T:12215 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:45602 18:27 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 18:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Elf Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:22994 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:18853 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19339 18:36 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:46659 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 51416 points, T:25490, killed by Mr. Balya; the shopkeeper 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bot (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5214 points, T:8901, killed by a chameleon imitating a winged gargoyle 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:14658 18:50 <@luxidream> !lastgame . 18:50 @luxidream: No last game for .. 18:50 <@luxidream> !lastgame luxidream 18:50 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1602972060.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 18:50 how often does a grid bug with 4 whole HP generate 18:50 probably 25% of them now I think about it 18:53 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:20687 18:54 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 90 points, T:745, killed by a water demon 18:55 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 50 points, T:62, killed by a boulder 18:55 hmm. tempted to try an evilhack neutral monk, giant monk - or wizard. but if wizard... what weapon should i favour? daggers, i guess? 18:55 i'll miss not being a grand master, though... 18:57 <@nabru> !pom 18:57 @nabru: The moon is new for 2 more days. 18:57 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:57 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 381 points, T:385, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful warhorse, on T:15056 19:00 <@dexsg> nooo 19:00 <@dexsg> fountain overflowed and drowned my faithful steed 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4229 19:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law), 77387 points, T:13270, petrified by Medusa 19:00 <@microlance> woops forgot to think 19:01 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 406 points, T:637, killed by a gnome zombie, while fainted from lack of food 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Bot's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4276 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3217 points, T:4653, killed by an exploding wand 19:04 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 359 points, T:579, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 19:06 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 153 points, T:513, killed by a bat, while fainted from lack of food 19:07 -!- callforjudgement has joined #hardfought 19:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v callforjudgement] by ChanServ 19:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:20937 19:08 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 192 points, T:546, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 19:08 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 871 points, T:812, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1289 19:15 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 387 points, T:627, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:3033 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:37063 19:17 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 162 points, T:366, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 676 points, T:1983, killed by a werejackal 19:21 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 326 points, T:590, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 19:22 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 43 points, T:43, killed by a succubus 19:26 Oh, hi arahael. 19:26 How did your last game finish. 19:27 asc, IIRC 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Raider, on T:28093 19:28 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 19:28 Oh, you ascended it! 19:28 Good, good! 19:28 Proud of ya. 19:28 Hi ais. 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1294 19:29 hi 19:29 Hello ais523, Welcome to #hardfought 19:30 sup ais 19:30 I should register an alias nick 'callforjudgment' just to exacerbate people getting me confused with ais523 19:32 long story, but that would be sort-of the opposite of how my alternative nick came about in the first palce 19:33 * place 19:33 <@riker> too many people here with names that start with a 19:33 I was observing / following an online nomic, it had an account "callforjudgment" which allowed people to send calls for judgement (i.e. requests for clarifications of the rules) anonymously (and was being abused to some extent) 19:34 CFJs are common in nomics because the rules change all the time, so there are often issues that need clarifications 19:34 I was in their IRC channel and wanted to be anonymous, but I'm British, so I spelled it as "callforjudgement" 19:34 this lead to quite some controversy, but the nickname caught on, and now I use it in most gaming-related contexts 19:34 I don't think the e is a british/us thing, americans at least use it as they please 19:35 (ais523 is for programming-related contexts; for me, NetHack is both) 19:35 apparently it should be "judgment" in legal contexts even in the UK, but "judgement" is the only correct spelling in the UK in non-technical contexts (i.e. "going into Gehennom at AC +5 showed a lack of judgement") 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3171 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2491 points, T:2906, killed by a giant beetle 19:38 Umbire: thanks :) 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:3395 19:41 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 1240 points, T:1630, killed by a bolt of fire 19:45 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 255 points, T:752, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 19:48 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Ama Ang Fem Law), 2596 points, T:1005, caught herself in her own fireball 19:48 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 306 points, T:643, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:18124 19:51 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Fem Cha), 292 points, T:344, killed by a dwarf lord 19:54 [hdf-us] [un] Bot (Con Vam Mal Cha), 329 points, T:471, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:9968 19:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:31899 20:00 Still dunno what to do about this werewolf situation in my game. 20:00 kill it with fire? 20:03 Would that I had any 20:03 F 20:03 The game's been fine up to this point but I'm still underequipped for the long-term 20:03 I'll pull it up so you can see 20:04 aoei: Game's active on hdf now 20:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:32948 20:04 for you and anyone else who wants to watch 20:04 izzzit 20:04 idle atm but you can see firsthandwhat I'm dealing with 20:04 well i aint doin much else at the moment :D 20:05 hdf as in us server 20:05 found u 20:05 Ye 20:05 hm yeah doesn't look great 20:05 you're burdened, your AC isn't terrible but it's not great 20:05 <@nabru> Really don't know how to help you, either 20:05 HP also not amazing 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:966 20:06 if you get surrounded you will die quickly 20:06 I'm not irreversibly screwed, the burden thing in particular I can remedy somewhat easily 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2258 points, T:2683, killed by a hell hound 20:06 and yes I'm aware of that 20:06 honeslty i'd leave the level 20:06 for now 20:06 <@nabru> I'd leave it behind and go back later 20:07 I'm just not liking my options were I to continue forward, but I don't exactly feel hot going below Minetown either 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 554 points, T:1164, killed by a coyote 20:07 wait, is this the soko entrance level? 20:07 I don't know, I lit. just got here 20:07 <@nabru> Maybe you can leave the level, then come back when you have a way to teleport 20:07 and was presented with 20:07 * Umbire gestures 20:07 one level below delphi? 20:07 i would be retreating in your position 20:08 it looks not safe 20:08 yeah, I'd go hit MT 20:08 what is this? vanilla 3.7? 20:08 I've already been there 20:08 And yeah but started before some of the patches were applied 20:08 like that bug where pets freeze around mimics or w/e 20:08 ... if you've been to MT, why do you still have unIDed stuff? =P 20:08 i might even chance deeper mines if you have a light source and aren't attached to your armour 20:09 yup, this should be soko entrance 20:09 <@nabru> Yep, go deeper into the mines and hope you find a way to teleport or to zap that wherewolf 20:09 this level right now looks worse than most of the deeper mines 20:09 almost like I didn't have a lot of ID luck 20:09 :V 20:09 wait, did 3.X patch out priceIDing? 20:09 polytrap is your biggest danger.. and they can spawn here too anyway 20:09 yeah, that looks like the play 20:09 ...what no 20:10 what class is Adept? are you a priest? 20:10 Yes 20:10 hmm, looks like they're in a hall behind a hidden door 20:10 not the most tank like 20:10 but i reckon you could make a go of the deep mines 20:10 might be possible to avoid them completely 20:10 Yeah, that's increasingly looking like the play 20:10 yup. 20:11 at the least I could fish for junk to sell in stores and get healing potions from that health food place 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered FAST PONY, her faithful pony, on T:25614 20:11 (which, cool, they sell those now) 20:11 healing + speed = extra healing right? 20:11 trying to remember 20:11 yes 20:11 at least last i knew (3.4.3, lol) 20:11 lol you being burdened makes me nervous 20:11 this is a me problem, fwiw 20:11 <@nabru> I can't judge you for being burdened 20:12 something about watching players who are burdened bothers me to no end 20:12 <@nabru> I suffer from chronic inventory management issues 20:13 yes, me too, I'm always dyign Burdened 20:13 I'm getting better 20:13 <@nabru> packrats anonymous 20:13 XD 20:13 lol 20:13 cannot 20:13 relate 20:14 welp, today's soko has a "oR, so no enabling for me. 20:14 hah 20:14 <@nabru> šŸ˜„ 20:14 lmfao 20:14 going bagless is the worst tho 20:14 ^ 20:14 * hackedhead is sloving soko while burdened, yes 20:14 Like I said it's easy enough to drop my shit if the going gets rough 20:14 but like 20:14 having no BoH isn't that terrible 20:14 but like, post-castle with no bag at all? 20:14 * hackedhead only plays rogues anymore 20:14 nightmare 20:14 so that is no longer an issue. XD 20:14 I need to at least have a sack 20:15 <@nabru> YASI: a bagless conduct 20:15 if only to make unburdening quick and prompt 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 7189 points, T:6342, killed by withering away, while praying 20:17 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 20:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 20:18 oh right, then there's that fucking rust monster on the Oracle level 20:19 Umbire: if you can anticipate the meeting just remove all iron armour 20:19 and kick them to death 20:19 or punch them even 20:19 they're quite weak 20:19 I know 20:19 I just hate them on principle is all 20:19 <@nabru> Everybody hates 'em 20:19 fuck it 20:20 lol true 20:20 they are scum 20:21 and one less R in the world 20:21 \o/ 20:21 <@nabru> yay 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2008 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1262 points, T:2602, killed by a Woodland-elf 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 751 points, T:1330, killed by a small mimic 20:32 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 20:32 oh right, the Elvenking throne room 20:32 that's 20:32 a thing that exists 20:33 and then there's a leprechaun and mountain nymph on the way back upstairs 20:33 feelin' like I'm being lined up rn 20:37 oh come on dog don't do this to me 20:37 getting frozen at a time like this, pls 20:38 the bullet I dodged 20:42 -!- not_quite_nabru has joined #hardfought 20:43 -!- not_quite_nabru has quit [Client Quit] 20:43 wew jaguar, that ain't good 20:43 <@nabru> :/ 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:21872 20:44 and down 20:44 now while my dog feeds, I kill this L 20:44 l rather* 20:48 mimic in shop dead, now to scoop these healing potions 20:52 concentration's a bit spotty, save/pausing for now 20:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became the Messenger of Hermes, on T:18917 20:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Student of Metals, on T:37440 20:55 how is angband? 20:55 couldn't tell you 20:56 never played it 20:56 also hi dolores 20:56 henlo Umbire 20:56 I'm still hurting after that sad death I had a few days ago... going with a barbarian... valkys feel easy 20:56 you just have it all! 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Anshar, on T:8011 20:59 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Ama Ang Fem Neu), 164 points, T:240, killed by a shotgun shell 21:00 Hi K2 21:01 <@nabru> !booze 21:01 * Beholder tosses @nabru a shot of suds, brewed by FCCBot at -10 degrees Celsius. 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:8052 21:01 hi 21:01 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 21:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:37554 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 645 points, T:1770, killed by an elf zombie 21:05 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:8282 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:19228 21:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:37898 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:9540 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 1870 points, T:9904, killed by a gnome zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:10 F 21:11 <@nabru> moments after he became literate, he died. never even enjoyed reading a good book 21:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:21988 21:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21989 21:15 Poor bastard 21:15 never to know the joys of successfully reading a spellbook only to have it be teleport away 21:15 rip Surtur 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2036 21:16 Surtur is probably the most bullied quest nemesis in nethack 21:18 [hdf-eu] [nh343] jinn02 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 Grayswandir", on T:952 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 227 points, T:1162, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 21:19 all - clan creation is now active for TNNT 2020 21:19 https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clanmgmt/ 21:21 Sick 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh4] Bill (hunbun) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1382 points, T:3, quit 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] Bill (hunbun) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4196 points, T:38, killed by a fox 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2807 21:24 <{Demo}> join my clan, the clam clan 21:24 I really hope someone makes an Outlaw Star joke this year. 21:25 Hell, I'll do it myself if I have to. 21:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:50386 21:27 Go team Manchester! 21:30 <{Demo}> lmao 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3816 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4953 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3984 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 822 points, T:1689, killed by a rabid rat 21:41 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 36 points, T:189, killed by a djinni 21:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:44 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:47 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6245 points, T:5083, poisoned by an orcish arrow 21:51 F 21:52 oh, yeah. now i remember the problem with the ios nethack clients. silly, unchangeable defaults :( 21:53 accidentally broke vegan by... eating an unidentified tin. no prompt for "it smells like... do you want to eat it?" 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5739 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5739 21:54 Gross. 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scroll of charging", on T:25092 21:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:25093 21:58 Probably good to have a backup if the PYEC gets nicked 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 631 points, T:2114, killed by a wererat 22:01 Alright, time to resume my game and try 3.7 alchemy for the first time 22:01 Oh right, fuckin' New Moon on top of my whole werewolf situation from before 22:01 Ugh 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25098 22:03 pyec? 22:04 Tourist quest artifact. 22:04 The Platinum Yendorian Express Card. 22:04 P. much top-tier among neutral artis. 22:04 Main features I recall are magic resistance, telepathy, and #invoke for charging 22:04 Tourists get to use it as blessed charging 22:06 oh, nice. 22:06 infinite charging!? 22:06 theoretically infinite charging 22:06 But semantics :b 22:06 "theoretically"? :) 22:06 Invoke timers still exist :B 22:06 maybe i should do a tourist game. 22:07 Tourist is p. hard mode but still p. fun 22:07 "p."? 22:07 I'm pissed my old phone screen cracked because I have a killer tourist on there 22:07 'pretty' 22:07 ah, nice. you could get that screen repaired? 22:07 oh, android - rarely worth it :( but you could transfer the data in that case...? 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Traveler, on T:25404 22:08 I wish but it also took a header in the toilet at some point so :/ 22:08 Screen still freaks out with ghost inputs 22:08 transfer the data then! 22:08 yeah, figuring out how to transfer the NH games is on my list 22:08 the rest of the data I can easily transfer, that's not an issue 22:08 I'm trying to see if I can transfer the games specifically without worrying about trickery horseshit 22:09 very likely, there isnt much sandboxing or security involved, unlike ios. 22:11 whats the most offensive capacity a tourist can get? 22:12 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 22:16 -!- sebastia1toby has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Journeyer, on T:26131 22:22 I mean Tourists can actually take a skill level in most weapons 22:22 (except the aklys, fucking horseshit) 22:23 and you get a decent amount of starting gold 22:24 Pets are p. critical to early game Tourists imo and even if you're the type to start without one you have plenty of taming food to start as well 22:25 +2 darts are solid af and generally they're more of a gateway to "proper" weapons but mastering darts isn't a remotely bad option 22:26 if you had to pick one (other than darts) though... which would it be? 22:27 that's the thing! you can pick practically anything you want and run with it 22:28 Mattocks and zweihanders are good when what you need is damage early on 22:28 Daggers and long swords are my personal goals though 22:28 also you can literally power through your quest nemesis just by holding on to a stack of darts, even your starting set, and poisoning them 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 8 points, T:34, killed by a jackal 22:28 [hdf-au] [spl] PeachMuffin (Cav Wer Fem Neu), 900 points, T:1933, mowed down by a werejackal 22:29 yeah, i was thinking of a dagger given how many fancy daggers there are. 22:30 I was more so thinking that Tourists can get expert in daggers 22:30 oh, interesting, they can do certain spells too. 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1406 points, T:1334, killed by a dagger 22:30 right,same 22:30 charm monster >>>>>>>>>>> 22:30 nice. 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 117 points, T:181, killed by a dwarf 22:30 So goated. 22:30 so next game will be either giant monk, wizard, or... tourist. 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker named I Voted", on T:19639 22:34 laters! 22:34 Be well. 22:40 Alrighty, got 2 potions of extra healing out of the deal, encouraging. 22:42 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:45 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 22:45 Sick, got completely dropkicked by my internet for no reason. 22:46 K2: Might need help recovering a game in a second 22:47 k 22:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:20431 22:49 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:50 And AGAIN with this shit. 22:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:56956 22:51 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:53 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:28559 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28560 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Skippy, her faithful kitten, on T:2092 22:54 -!- Umbire__ has joined #hardfought 22:55 Yeah so does anyone have experience in heist planning and driving getaway cars? 22:55 Asking for a friend, they may or may not want to kidnap AT&T's CEO 22:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:56 -!- Umbire__ is now known as Umbire 22:56 K2: Alright, so before I attempt anything else, how does recovery work to begin with 22:57 That way I don't go fucking things up moving too fast 22:58 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:2118 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2266 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:29066 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:29067 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:29068 23:01 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 23:01 Ok. 23:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2628 23:02 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 23:02 K2, if you said anything at all the last few minutes, I'll need you to repeat. 23:02 i didnt 23:02 do you need a recover? 23:03 More than likely. 23:03 Now my connection is stable, though, let me see... 23:03 hrm... its either yes or no :) 23:03 I've never had to do this before, so. 23:03 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 23:03 well, log in, start the game you were playing. you'll know pretty quick like if you need a recover or not 23:04 Yes. 23:04 New game menu is showing up. 23:04 what game/variant 23:04 3.7.0 23:04 hdf-us? 23:04 Yes. 23:04 and you play as Umbire? 23:04 Yes. 23:04 OMFG almost YASDā€™d. Dug down on Medusa. Had to go take care of kid, came back, found stairs, went up without thinking. Glad I was fast and got lucky. Right back down to put on the blindfoldā€¦ yikes 23:04 ok cool. making sure, dont want to make any assumptions 23:05 Close one, Bugs. 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:12454 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3350 23:05 Already have close to a full kit too 23:06 Bit earlyish to reach her there. 23:06 Nice. 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a hexagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3500 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed tinning kit", on T:21291 23:06 hmm ok 23:06 boooooooooo 23:06 Checkpointing was not in effect for 5Umbire -- recovery impossible. 23:06 cursed shield 23:06 here's what i recommend 23:06 I'd literally saved twice today, what the fuck. 23:07 And all I'd done was try a bit of alchemy 23:07 dgl will autolog/save your game if you're inactive for more than 60 min. right now it still appears you're playing, just idle 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2635 23:07 i say wait it out 23:07 35 min to go 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:21347 23:07 otherwise i'll have to restore from an older save 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:29104 23:07 I hadn't done anything since besides logging in when you asked 23:07 And I was watching Bugpowder just now 23:08 i know 23:08 if you look in the watch menu you can see your game though 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2052 points, T:3088, killed by a soldier ant 23:10 :[ 23:10 (go team a!) 23:11 And me being in the store after picking up healing potions and killing a mimic should be one of my more recent saves. 23:11 yeah lets be patient and see what happens 30 min from now 23:11 RIP neko still 23:11 And yes, that's the plan K2 23:11 k 23:11 Thank you for helping, I'm just not having a good weekend 23:11 :/ 23:11 !booze Umbire 23:11 * Beholder hands Umbire a pint of grappa, prayed over by the /dev/null/oracle at 100 degrees Fahrenheit. 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4692 points, T:4085, killed by a Green-elf 23:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:12 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:21897 23:13 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:29425 23:15 -!- Umbire__ has joined #hardfought 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Skippy, her faithful kitten, on T:806 23:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:17 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:17 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:29745 23:19 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 23:19 !tea 23:19 * Beholder tosses hackedhead a cup of oolong tea, distilled by Arsinoe at 25 Kelvin. 23:19 <@nabru> You drink the tea. Your insides freeze. You die... 23:19 I think I'd be dead if I tried to even catch it. 23:20 Yeah, I'm at the end of my rope. 23:20 as soon as it starting existing it was probably _violently_ boiling. 23:20 -!- Umbire__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:20 Soon as this game is recovered, I'm fucking off for the night. 23:20 maybe not. how do extremely cold solids work.... 23:21 Akin to bricks, I'd think. 23:21 Which is something I could use applied to my skull right now. 23:22 no, i mean, would it just ... melt slowly? or do something more interesting 23:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:23 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 23:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:26 !tell K2 Just /msg or /query me when you've recovered my game, I'm fucking done with my ISP. 23:26 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 23:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class R), on T:22860 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:22861 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1236 points, T:1801, killed by a gnome lord 23:29 I suppose a 25-kelvin tea might freeze small amounts of nitrogen and oxygen on its surface for a while 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:31004 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:23508 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a xorn), on T:13090 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:31188 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:24502 23:41 You feel like a new elf! 23:41 Become what kind of monster? [type the name] xorn 23:41 In what direction? . 23:41 What do you want to zap? [iqDGNQTUWZ or ?*] ? 23:41 ?? 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:31599 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:25177 23:50 !tell Umbire your game auto-recovered 23:50 K2: Message from Umbire at 2020-10-17 23:26 EDT: Just /msg or /query me when you've recovered my game, I'm fucking done with my ISP. 23:50 No worries, K2, I've got this! 23:50 ā€œThis ring of polymorph control is delicious!ā€ Yassssss 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:32300 23:56 -!- captain42 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2447 points, T:2428, killed by a werejackal 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:13342