00:00 first sit and the throne goes away 00:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:15166 00:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:24360 00:03 Unlucky 00:03 indeed 00:03 it weighs a lot as well 00:04 this level is really annoying 00:04 water everywhere 00:04 It's always the water levels :B 00:04 I just fear drowning 00:04 slex has shown me how easy it is to lose to that 00:05 Ye 00:05 medusa is here! 00:05 Drowning is still a justifiable fear in the late game tbf 00:05 umm... I don't have reflection 00:06 I'd rather not be here 00:06 where is my quest... 00:06 Long as you can blind yourself you're not in any particular danger I think 00:06 huh 00:06 also are you supposed to step in the water? 00:06 wdym supposed to 00:06 no way around the water 00:06 Levitation 00:06 I can use my earth scrolls 00:06 Scrolls of earth 00:07 wands of cold 00:07 cold helps? 00:07 there's quite a few 00:07 it really freezes it? 00:07 yes 00:07 then you can walk over 00:07 you're a valk so slipping is a concern 00:07 the ice giving way or being melted is, though 00:08 there's also the eels as always 00:08 esp. the electric ones 00:12 also how far away do I have to blind myself away from medus? 00:13 Depends on the island you generate 00:13 You *can* see her through the bars potentially 00:13 So keep that in mind 00:14 I rec the wiki as always but generally you can see the whole map for her island so you can use that + blinded telepathy to get a good estimate of where you'd be in danger 00:14 this assumes you get a lair with bars on her end anyway 00:14 and also assumes she's awoken prematurely 00:15 which, hey, it's NetHack, always prep for worst case :B 00:15 I don't see it off the wiki 00:15 ah flipped version 4 00:16 Yeah, wiki should note xNet flips maps 00:16 the ice makes it really hard 00:16 great my wand of cold is gone 00:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:25169 00:18 I killed her yay! 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:48753 00:18 * Umbire claps 00:18 I then almost die to the captain 00:18 Medusa isn't even too hard long as you can blind yourself, have poison res and decent AC 00:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:25253 00:19 which, let's be real, mass majority of the time you'll have that 00:19 unless you're digging for victory 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:13296 00:20 Umbire: From above... Monks with half physical damage... Yeah, I don't think there are /any/ artifacts that allow for that for a lawful monk. :( Maybe wishing for something as a chaotic might work. 00:20 Chaotics have the Master Key 00:20 Umbire: Even then, it's a weapon that would have to be wielded, iirc. 00:20 Ah, that. 00:20 Neutrals Orb of fate 00:20 Fate* 00:21 also I think I missed my quest entirely 00:21 sec 00:21 You can always backtrack for it 00:21 I also found Vlad's tower earlier, but chose not to do it. I'll probably have to go back for that. 00:21 You'll get a message when you're on the floor 00:21 I'm on dlvl24 00:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by a bat), on T:2460 00:22 Medusa's isle has been below the quest portal level in every instance I've played 00:22 according to the wiki I missed it 00:22 so unless there's an aberration of some kind 00:22 It should be there in the dungeon summary, too, iirc. 00:22 Summoned by the Norn 00:22 that is probably it 00:22 Yep 00:23 Easy to miss if you're not minding messages I figure 00:23 oh do you have fire resistance? 00:23 no idea 00:23 well you can easily get some from the home level 00:23 just mind being on the ice 00:23 home level? 00:23 ahh yes 00:23 I had that happen last serious run 00:23 drowned? 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:49247 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:49249 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49255 00:24 no 00:24 got fire resistance from a mob 00:25 Oh 00:25 lol 00:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law), 395 points, T:2629, killed by a giant bat 00:25 Just don't get wanded or mobbed by team a, it's free 4Head 00:25 I got killed by the injured boss 00:25 Nah, I remember 00:25 Was quipping about fire resistance still 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed nekochan's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:14154 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:49481 00:30 a scroll of enchant armot 00:30 ID'd? 00:30 Informal? 00:30 Random read? 00:30 Id'd somehow 00:30 now I just need scales 00:30 sadly the dragons weren't being kind 00:30 You can always double back to your quest after getting it if you like ig 00:31 I have -12 ac 00:31 ahh my equipment is being burnt 00:31 Yeah that's the other thing you want enchant armor for 00:31 confused reading is how you fooproof stuff 00:31 You feel a momentary chill 00:32 come on, sub-35... 00:32 👍* 00:32 Didn't copy properly, RIP 00:32 wait so what does that do exactly 00:32 confused enchant armor 00:32 That means you have fire res 00:32 Oh 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:49684 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:49684 00:32 Confused enchant armor enchants your armor :B 00:33 so does normal enchant armor 00:33 no? 00:33 specifically it protects it against some type of erosion 00:33 and repairs any existing damage 00:33 really? 00:33 wtf 00:33 ahuh 00:33 NetHack is a very punny game 00:33 so naturally confusion causes some scrolls to react in an unintended but possibly still useful manner 00:34 well yeah I've done that with taming in slex 00:34 turning a mosnter madness level 00:34 into my toy 00:34 but it'll only do it for one piece of armor right? 00:34 taming is the only one in vanilla that doesn't outright change 00:34 just the effective range increases when confused, I think? 00:34 something like that 00:34 it's great 00:34 and yeah, only one bit of armor 00:35 and it's always random right? 00:35 yeah 00:35 'easy' way is to just take off everything but the desired armor 00:36 which you only want to do in a secure area ofc 00:38 :( 00:38 ? 00:38 lost a lot more ac 00:38 down to -10 00:38 Still decent enough 00:39 Still having burnt armor sucks 00:39 it's a very annoying thing 00:39 does greasing prevent burns 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:51475 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15225 00:41 Ooh yay, tins of spinach 00:41 oh baby plate mail 00:41 675 weight! 00:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law) murdered smuffin, her faithful little dog, on T:858 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:51644 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:51657 00:45 2 extra ac for 400 more weibht 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) put the invisible Death down for a little nap, on T:51696 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:51748 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2772626 points, T:51760, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MHL/nethack/dumplog/1602733154.nh.html 00:48 congrats! 00:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law), 730 points, T:1062, killed by a wand 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2326 00:51 GG MHL 00:51 Plate is overrated 00:51 I like variants that try to make other types of armor more viable 00:51 esp. CPM 00:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:28571 00:53 :D! 00:53 thanks I even got a bell 00:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28572 00:53 :3 00:55 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1707 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:16239 00:55 ahh the orb of fate has charges 00:55 so I can only telport X number of times? 00:56 Uh 00:56 no lol 00:56 wait I can just spam it? 00:56 Orb of Fate is an artifact crystal ball 00:56 why does it show "the blessed Orb of Fate (0:5)" 00:56 you use a charge to look for an item, feature, etc. 00:56 oh... a is not invoke 00:56 thanks 00:56 but it's heavy and impractical so no one uses them unless they're artifact ones like what you have 00:56 Orb of Weight is a p. solid neutral arti 00:57 (that's a nickname) 00:58 warning, half spell/phys damage, acts as luckstone, and invoke means level teleports as you discovered 00:58 so I have 3 luck stones!? 00:58 I have tripple luck! 00:58 yes 00:58 Well uh 00:58 "Multiple luck items have no cumulative effect." 00:58 oh... 00:59 so I should put my luck stones away :( 00:59 yeah sorry, RIP 00:59 I thought it just kept stacking 00:59 probably better you do anyway 00:59 Yeah, dump them. And the main thing is the timeout, anyway. 00:59 so they don't get cursed 00:59 nah, it depends on the amount of cursed/noncursed luck items you have, rather than stacking 00:59 time to hord in a chest instead of my BOH 00:59 since I can just tp 00:59 i.e. you have more "bad luck" items, then you get the cursed luckstone instead 01:00 more "good luck" items = blessed effect 01:00 even number = uncursed effect 01:01 Oh yeah, since you're dabbling with more vanilla-esque stuff, lot of QoL things from variants have been added for 3.7 01:01 (along with some more... worrying things) 01:02 also the orb in xnethack is 100 not 150 01:02 thankfully 01:02 Ye 01:03 That's a general "buff" to the Crystal Ball, right? 01:03 why did I capitalize that... 01:03 I should use my unciorn horn more 01:03 it never comes up 01:03 it got nerfed in that it can't restore ability 01:04 You feel that the Orb of Fate is ignoring you. 01:04 rude 01:06 Yeah, you have a turn count to safely invoke it 01:06 So you don't get spammy with it 01:06 it warped me to a random level 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:8374 01:06 how do you give it a specific level? 01:06 it seems invoke moves you to a random level 01:07 Oh lol, you still need tele control 01:07 oh... 01:07 that is much less powerful than I wanted 01:07 great how does one go about getting tele control 01:07 ring 01:07 that is doable 01:07 let me identify all my rings 01:07 tengu corpse (which may give you teleportitis instead) 01:08 eating Rodney's corpse (but maybe don't do that if you're humie) 01:08 someone took my old stash chest 01:08 (also he has 3 other things he can potentially give you lol) 01:08 oh no! 01:08 it's fine 01:09 Sokoban fl1 is usually a safe stash location, anyone what takes it usually can't get far 01:09 ooh, Master Key gives tele control, I forgot 01:09 I hope the ring can be cursed 01:09 I mean it can be but why lol 01:09 cause I have a few lying around 01:10 It's not disproportionately likely to be cursed 01:10 unlike say, teleport itself 01:10 yes I saw one of those 01:10 still, you never know 01:11 since I don't have auto warp I'll keep more things on me 01:11 <@dddddd> Just lost connect to au.hardfought.org in the middle of a wish... 01:11 :( 01:11 F 01:11 :[ 01:11 I try to keep stable connection whenever possible though you can never completely foolproof it 01:11 sorry to hear 01:11 <@dddddd> game is still watchable with it half typed ah well 01:11 Wait you were watching someone else? 01:12 <@dddddd> nah, Now that i've reconnected I can watch my game 01:12 ohhhh 01:12 so you can finish typing it or...? 01:12 I'm off it today 01:13 <@dddddd> is there any way to reconnect to a game? if I press V for 3.7 I get the new game prompt 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 Grayswandir", on T:17430 01:13 a connected stash chest would be dope for this gay 01:13 game* 01:13 I too am a gay who thinks magic chests would be dope 01:13 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:13 Uhhhh 01:13 this is what slex is for lol 01:13 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:13 at least one thing I do like about it 01:13 Hmmm, idk if K2 does that kinda recovery 01:14 I'd think he does but then I haven't been here regularly for months 01:14 so my memory is dogshit 01:14 * K2 catches up on backscroll 01:15 hi 01:15 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 01:15 Umbire: either way orb of weight can allow me to basically level phase door if I get into a bad situation 01:15 ye, level tele is a solid escape 01:15 djm2000? 01:15 free cursed tele scrolls \o/ 01:15 <@dddddd> bonsiour K2 01:16 i can recover whats there (hopefully) 01:16 log out of hdf-au please 01:16 <@dddddd> ooft that would be much appreciated 01:16 <@dddddd> done 01:17 oof 01:17 Checkpointing was not in effect for 5djm2000 -- recovery impossible. 01:17 <@dddddd> nooo 01:17 one sec we aint done yet 01:18 <@dddddd> prays 01:19 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Umbire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3977 01:21 i recovered the game, but from the last save, from about 30 min ago 01:21 all i can do :/ 01:22 oh god what is this level 01:23 ? 01:23 What'd ya find 01:23 this https://puu.sh/GDxWR/529631ec07.png 01:23 I'm busy hoping this Minetown has a bag 01:23 Ooh! 01:23 Castle! 01:24 never been here before 01:24 I heard the castle has wishes 01:24 If you can get to the chest in time and don't send it through the atom smasher 01:24 (or die to like a fucktillion other things) 01:24 I see 01:24 well I'll call it here tongiht 01:24 sure sure 01:24 I've spent too much time playing 01:24 spend time watching me instead :D 01:25 I have work tomorrow 01:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] djm2000 (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "", on T:4107 01:25 at least you don't use ibm graphics which is impossible to watch 01:26 "" 01:26 I don't know how to use graphics yet 01:26 Means empty input 01:26 yeah I know 01:26 which... :[ 01:26 just a sad wish 01:26 <@dddddd> K2 Thanks very much that's better than losing it 01:26 no problem. sorry couldnt do more 01:26 Silver lining 01:26 And it sounds like you got restored to where you left off 01:26 Or close to it anyway 01:26 <@dddddd> nice I only had like 2 wand tests since the save yeah 01:26 ibmgraphics > everything else loli :) 01:27 :( I could never watch you play 01:27 it's just jibberish 01:27 press s 01:27 I do like the IBM fountains... at least curses looks nice 01:27 S doesn't shuffle into something compatible for you? 01:27 <@dddddd> I use Konwert to fix IBM graphics on windows 01:27 (or just use konwert) 01:27 yeah 01:27 I'm not going out of my way to use a differnet terminal for nethack 01:28 I'd have to color it etc. 01:28 not a different terminal. Just a program you run in your terminal 01:28 I would appreciate my terminal keeping the colors 01:28 ahh is that what it is 01:28 I thought it was a special terminal 01:28 instead of saying ssh nethack@hardfought.org, you say ssh nethack@hardfought.org|konwert cp437-utf8 01:28 Oh neat 01:29 <@dddddd> alias nethack="ssh nethack@au.hardfought.org | konwert cp437-utf8" 01:29 TIL 01:29 maybe that can make slex playable as kurwa without using curses 01:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 327 points, T:1584, killed by a black pudding 01:32 K2: utf8graphics > ibmgraphics 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Umbire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4136 01:33 not many variants use utf8 01:34 no. But for the ones that do... 01:34 someday vanilla will get it, bhaak willing 01:35 heh, I certainly hope so 01:36 a cursed shield of reflection 01:36 (bhaak and ais both) 01:36 afaik un is still missing utf8 on topl though 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:1828 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:19054 01:41 Doesn't like me swapping with pets in shops at all 01:41 glad I have a leash/whistle 01:50 Man 3.6.1 aklys buff >>>> 01:51 Ranged options for priests used to be so cheeks 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:3101 01:58 Second can of spinach, wew 01:58 and I have a third in waiting 01:58 I shall be the stronkest bookpope 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:3266 01:58 Nice ghosts. 01:58 Indeed 01:59 Now you can grab an aklys and hang on to it for literally the entire game. 01:59 after you get it at least. 02:04 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:23112 02:14 > Shan Lai Ching is angry with you. 02:14 Is that a problem? 02:18 I think it's a problem only if you wish to pray - and meh... Will fix that later? 02:18 Now how'd that happen 02:18 Oh right, was it the Moloch altar thing? 02:22 Probably. Or me eating the nurse to see what would happen. :/ 02:23 But I have four wands of create monster so should be easy to fix - if I ever come across an aligned altar again. 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Excavator, on T:24538 02:28 ...yeah, cannibalism is bad, m'k? 02:28 It's also a problem if you want to #turn undead 02:29 Or get any result from sacrificing other than maybe mollifying your god. 02:32 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:5279 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:5446 02:38 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 13906 points, T:5487, choked 02:41 Andrio: So, not bad, then, anymore? 02:41 I mean, I'm already in gehennom... 02:41 Mm 02:41 If you don't mind being unable to pray later 02:42 Sure am getting mileage out of cure blindness 02:42 * Umbire adds to rare sentences list 02:43 I think I'll molify hte god only if I come across an altar. 02:43 Elvenking throne room on dl7 02:43 monkaW 02:45 Yikes. 02:45 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Metals, on T:41109 02:47 Hop on hdf if ya wanna watch my slow ass game :B 02:48 Also what rank is that 02:49 Xp 18 or 19. 02:49 Or 17? I'm loosing track! 02:49 Currently 19. 02:51 Hmm, 17 is still waters. I'm 17 now. :) 02:51 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42166 02:51 Vlad is difficult to melee. 02:51 * arahael meleed him. 02:51 Naturally 02:51 Fastest motherfucker in the game and life-drains 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:26126 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26127 02:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42168 02:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:53 Uneventful so far, not liking the lack of armor and I'm not trying my luck with that throne room 02:54 DOGGO 02:56 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 03:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:01 OH boy that's a fire ant. 03:02 And that's the ashes of my spellbooks 03:02 Fortunate, all things considered 03:02 F 03:02 Fire ants are terrifying 03:03 I mean I only had the two and they were my starting spells 03:03 both of which get outclassed by a unihorn 03:03 so I think I'll be fine 03:03 still no poison res... 03:04 ah 03:04 Huh 03:04 Do mimics normally spawn here in 3.7? 03:05 (on the Oracle level ftr) 03:06 oh no rust monster 03:09 And there's a werewolf here 03:09 monkaS 03:09 Call it for now, figure out a gameplan for that bastard 03:09 Might have to bite the bullet and fish for some better AC, maybe dip below MineTown 03:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:18 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:28313 03:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:28738 03:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:28788 03:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Knight, on T:29784 03:50 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 03:54 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:30582 03:56 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:07 Hmm... If I have a shield of reflection... And it rusts... Is it still reflection? 04:08 * arahael is wondering if he should rustproof it. 04:08 they are naturally rustproof 04:09 Nice. I'll fireproof my shirt, instead, then. 04:09 there's literally 0 point fooproofing shirts 04:09 They don't ever burn if covered by a robe? 04:10 Ah, and they don't have a base AC, either. 04:10 the ac you lose when these things burn a little is their base ac 04:10 so burn some fashionable holes in the tshirt with reckless abandon 04:10 :) 04:10 lol 04:10 * elenmirie__ rends her garments 04:11 So I'm now AC:-25, without the shield. 04:11 amateurhour: Weird thing is, I literally have an excess of items, I think I should fooproof the shield. 04:11 lol 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31383 04:12 I don't think silver items can corrode or rust at all, can they? 04:13 The wiki has no mention of it... So probably not... 04:13 * arahael sticks the useless scroll back into his BoH. 04:14 guessing you're quite far through now? 04:15 Yes. 04:15 I'm back out of gehenom, though, I'm going to pacify the God thingy. 04:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] djm2000 (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 Blessed Scrolls of Charging", on T:4106 04:15 I was just going to re-sort out my BoH and everything, need to get rid of junk, etc. 04:15 My magic marker has only 4 charges left, too, there's nothign I can do with that, is there? (1:4). 04:16 * arahael threw out his other magic marker ages ago. 04:16 I want to get rid of this lamp, too, lets see what it is... 04:16 polypile it (the marker) 04:17 well you could in principle get another gold detection/magic mapping out of it 04:17 but not likely 04:17 Yeah, not worth it the bother. 04:17 Ok, so lamp was wishing... 04:17 wish for a marker :P 04:17 a lamp of wishing! 04:17 I guess I'll wish for "2 magic markers" :) 04:17 I don't think 2 works 04:17 nope 04:18 Interesting, so just magic marker, then. 04:18 I get the feeling you're meant to prefix with uncursed 04:18 yeah, uncursed magic marker 04:18 or blessed or cursed if you want that 04:18 but uncursed is the usual choice, bless or curse the paper 04:19 can't remember if there'd be a 10% chance of getting blessed/cursed instead so I just always prefix it anyway 04:19 I think I'll go with uncursed. It's a bit disgusting how many things I have, I can't think of anything else I'd like. 04:19 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:44029 04:19 > spends ages overpreparing 04:19 > "the amount of stuff I have is d i s g u s t i n g" 04:19 arahael has nethack affluenza 04:19 amateurhour: I also happened to have a bones level with an ascension kit. 04:19 :D 04:20 Is extinctionism a conduct that is actually tracked here? ;) Maybe I could consider that!? 04:20 it's not officially tracked, but you do get bragging rights 04:20 however it is very tedious 04:21 extinctionist for first ascension wouldn't be very fun 04:21 But where's the evidence!? 04:21 no 04:21 not recommended 04:21 amateurhour: Indeed, I probably should just do the ascension. 04:23 you're not far off the end really 04:24 What do you mean by that? 04:25 I noticed in irc logs that you beat Vlad 04:26 and have your ascension kit good to go 04:27 Yep, well, no candles or book. 04:28 But I didnt' look very hard in vlad's tower, so I should probably go back for that, but given I'm out I might as well swing by minetown again. 04:29 there should have been candles at Vlad's tower 04:29 ^ 04:29 Yeah, lots of tiny rooms, and no doors. I should've just kept searching. 04:29 middle floor has amulet of life saving and amulet of strangulation 04:29 top floor has from 8-16 candles iirc 04:29 I found strangulation and an unrecognised amulet I just left. 04:29 lol 04:29 :D 04:30 you should get that amulet, it's life saving 04:30 once you got shield of reflection on switch amulet 04:30 Heh, ok, so that will mean I then have two amulets of life saving. ;) 04:31 Hmm, fair point actually. I only recently got magic missile though, so I'm not keen to give up spellcasting. 04:31 So I was thinking: Shield only as a second source of MR. 04:31 lol I think you're pretty much good to go, don't really need to kill many things at this point 04:31 Erm - of reflection. 04:31 just the wizard right? 04:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:32555 04:31 and high priest 04:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32556 04:32 Should I practice killing the minetown priest? 04:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:32001 04:34 Hmm, probably not - that'd change alignment probably. 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:32004 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of light", on T:32017 04:35 arahael have you found the vibrating square yet? 04:35 Haven't actually gone down _that_ far yet. 04:35 Nothing's stopping me, I'm unfortunately feeling invincible. 04:35 you might want to dig quicker paths between the stairs in gehennom 04:35 if you're in a preparing mood 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32034 04:36 Yeah, that's already started, I just use the ^_> and ^_< thing, and I just burn whatever wall is in the way. 04:36 Not in a straight line, though. 04:36 best to find the vibrating square before fighting the wizard 04:36 The wand only removes a single square. I remember when I first played this game it would like, remove 7 squares. That was awesome. 04:36 I have a bunch of magic mapping scrolls. 04:37 it's not about knowing the route it's about minimising the turns between killing the wizard and ascending 04:37 because he comes back from the dead every so often 04:37 Rodney, you mean? 04:37 yes 04:37 I hear he's just "annoying"? 04:38 Oh, that's *the* wizard! 04:38 rodney is yendor backwards 04:38 Somehow I was thinking; Kill the wizard, get the amulet, then deal with Rodney. 04:39 Hmm, so he comes back stronger and stronger, and can double up... That sounds bad. 04:39 So I should grab the pickaxe again and burn, I guess. 04:40 good overview of the steps: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Ascension_run 04:40 with useful links to detail pages 04:41 Nice. How do people manage to win this game without the wiki? 04:42 not me :-) 04:42 no idea 04:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32326 04:47 Come to think of it, for gehennom, I probably could teleport? 04:47 with the amulet? 04:48 Yeah - it doesn't stop teleporting, does it? It only prevents level teleport? 04:48 it means a third of your teleports will fail 04:48 and you'll need a lot of them, as the mysterious force is gonna shaft you a little 04:48 honestly just dig paths between the stairs lol :P 04:49 !rng splicehack | productivity 04:49 aoei: splicehack 04:49 okay Beholder :D 04:49 !8ball was your previous answer bad advice? 04:49 amateurhour: Signs point to yes 04:49 <.< 04:49 amateurhour: Ok. :) 04:49 * aoei pats Beholder 04:49 that's okay 04:50 i didn't want to be productive anyway :^) 04:50 save tele wands for astral, they're amazing there 04:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:32904 04:51 truuuue 04:52 I've four wands left. 04:52 4 is good 04:52 do you have chargey scrolls? 04:52 Yep. 04:52 One, I think. 04:53 do you have markers to write more? 04:53 I usually like to have a few chargey scrolls for astral to recharge tele wands with 04:53 One new marker, I just wished for one not long ago so that I could check the lamp. 04:53 but I guess if you have 4 with good amount of charge in them 04:53 *chuck 04:53 you might be oky 04:53 i c 04:54 I'm reading that I should have been saving my K-rations for pestilence. 04:55 Famine, but yeah 04:57 Pestilence you really don't want to get within melee range of at all if you can help it 04:57 almost as bad as Demogorgon when they get close enough 04:57 I could magic missile pestilence, I guess? 04:57 death wand works on Famine and Pestilence 04:57 Also, do Pestilence last - you've got a 2/3 chance of never having to fight them at all. (Maybe not if you're fat with wand of death charges / the Finger) 04:58 aoei: Nice. 04:58 I'm going to finally loot Raisse's cursed BoH. Never did find a wand of cancellation. 04:58 if for some reason you feel you have to melee Pesty, you want free action and a wielded paralysis pot in hand 04:58 plus a blessed unicorn horn at the ready 04:58 You can weild with them? 04:59 if you're going to use a paralysis potion on any seriously dangerous foe, you should always wield it 04:59 thrown ones are shit 04:59 I was going to dip them into holy water! I still have two of those left, one cursed, one blessed. 04:59 they miss and/or don't paralyse for long 04:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:33530 04:59 in practice I rarely have to do this, in some variants like Evil you absolutely need this because Demogorgon is guaranteed 05:01 Well, emergency wish and a rubber chicken will do for Demogorgon still, won't it? 05:01 Pinkbeast: not in evilhack 05:01 in evilhack Demogorgon casts stone-to-flesh on itself 05:02 and the rubber chicken isn't instant stoning, so it has time to do that 05:02 in vanilla yeah, rubber chicken works 05:02 oof 05:02 yeah evilhack is mental lol 05:03 * aoei hasn't actually faced Demogorgon in any variant, but she's heard from the elite Evil players 05:03 * arahael might have located two more wishes. 05:03 aoei: Plus me... ;) 05:04 aoei: Have you forgotten me already!? ;) 05:04 arahael: yes! you faced it in vanilla 05:05 Found another scroll of geno. 05:06 :o 05:06 right enough chit-chat 05:06 * aoei plays some Splice 05:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] djm2000 (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4604 05:07 ... dammit 05:07 got lycanthropy 05:07 luckily i had spare holy water 05:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:10 This cookie has a scrap of paper inside. It reads: Watch out, the Wizard might come back. You can hear again. 05:11 arahael: nice that you got my stuff :-) 05:12 raisse: Yes, it was nice. :) You were fairly deep already though but lots of good stuff, I'm only practically on my way back up and finally looting the BoH you had - which was cursed. Never did find the wand of cancellation. 05:12 was that the ogre lord or king that killed me? 05:12 Ogre King. 05:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] djm2000 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4837 05:12 I remember that 05:13 below the quest portal level 05:13 My problem is I just have too much stuff. :( 05:13 arahael: delet potions 05:13 arahael: delet any armour you aren't wearing (except water walking boots/speed boots swapsies combo) 05:13 aoei: Yeah, most of my weight is probably potions - and food. 05:14 arahael: how much food you got? 05:14 far, far too much! 05:14 consider eating? 05:14 30 K-rations, 30 C-rations, 18 food rations? 05:15 Sadly only 7 k's, 1 C's... And 26 food rations. 05:15 raisse: Yeah - I eat all the time. 05:15 raisse: I walk around with regeneration! 05:15 arahael: you probably don't need more than 10 food rations tbh 05:15 if that 05:15 aoei: Probably even less if I put my ring of slow digestion on... 05:16 woo, this tin I bought in the deli was floating eye 05:16 don't bother with the slow digestion ring imo 05:16 but definitely drop like half your food 05:16 and alchemise or blank and bless/curse potions 05:16 then use them to bless random shit 05:16 How many lizards should I keep? 05:16 or to increase maxhp 05:16 arahael: one is *plenty* 05:16 one and a spare 05:16 * arahael drops 11... 05:16 ok maybe what raisse said 05:16 you had 13 lizards? XD 05:17 I'd just come down through what looked like an infestation of lizards 05:17 and just bagged them all 05:17 Mis-counted. I had 12. 05:18 but they don't weigh much so if they're in the BoH they'll hardly weigh you down 05:18 * aoei wonders how many food rations she eats in a typical ascension run 05:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] djm2000 (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4970 05:18 and how many of those post-castle 05:18 aoei: What are your favorite rings? Mine's free action and regen. 05:18 teleport control! 05:18 Plus levitiation whenever needed - never did identify water walking. 05:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34925 05:19 arahael: free action, polycontrol, telecontrol, regen, conflict 05:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34926 05:19 Regen is almost useless at this stage 05:19 raisse: I don't have teleport-at-will, though. 05:19 Pinkbeast: I do melee everything, though, including Vlad... 05:19 Pinkbeast: depends on your AC and whether or not you're actually getting in fights 05:19 regen is also great if you're using monster polyforms 05:19 aoei: Not really, no. 05:19 polyforms, I'll grant you. 05:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "3 cursed scroll of genocide", on T:34961 05:20 I've had late game non-poly'd chars who do lose HP and thus heal faster with regen on 05:21 I do seem to heal very fast with regen. 05:21 faster> but not a lot; at high level and high Con, it's only a fraction of natural healing 05:21 well everyone will heal faster with regen, but I think Pinkbeast's point is you're not losing enough HP for it to matter, typically 05:21 Pinkbeast: ahhh okay 05:21 how high we talking though, xl14 and Con 16 already fast enough healing? 05:22 No. My point is it's actually a small fraction of natural healing - I mean, it's better than nothing, but it's hard to imagine it ever being the best use of the second ring slot 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Spelunker, on T:35070 05:22 Is a drum worth keeping? I think that's heavy. 05:22 Pinkbeast: I thought it also guarantees a minimum of 1 HP per turn tho? 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Speleologist, on T:35091 05:22 or is that already not that interesting when you're xl14 and have high con? 05:22 And there's no point in keeping a bell, if I already have the monk quest bell, I think. 05:23 i dunno the natural healing formula, in all fairness 05:23 Hang fire; the Wiki is charmingly vague on a critical point so I'm just going to check the source and fix it 05:23 hm ok Pinkbeast 05:23 thanks! 05:23 drum is longer range than bugle/tooled horn 05:23 (I mean, it's true either way, I think, but how true is not yet clear) 05:24 amateurhour: do you know how many extra robes/cloaks splice has? 05:24 You feel that Anu is well-pleased. Your stomach feels content. You feel much better. You feel in good health again. Your long sword named Demonbane softly glows with a light blue aura. 05:24 i should probalby just wiki this shit 05:24 *very* well pleased! 05:24 raisse: nice:D 05:24 I'll drop the drum, too heavy I think. 05:24 got a bugle arahael? 05:24 So at level 10+ you heal naturally every 3rd turn. Regeneration goes off on turns you don't, so it is worth 2/3 of a HP per turn. 05:24 I was just praying because I was fainting from hunger 05:24 or tooled horn 05:25 amateurhour: I've an "uncursed horn", and a fire horn? I don't think I need to scare anything at this point, thogh? 05:25 scaring things is really really useful in the planes 05:25 Hmm... I'll keep the drum then! 05:25 I'm perm-invis, though. 05:26 That's one thing I've noticed makes a *huge* difference as a monk. 05:26 Every 3rd turn you get d(Con) HP (d16) to a maximum of XL-9 (5). So even at XL 14, Con 16 (and if arahael is approaching the Planes, I hope they have more), natural healing is doing 1.46 HP/turn - over twice as much as regeneration. 05:26 Pinkbeast: No point in regen, then! 05:26 I'm Xp:18, and Co:18 05:26 What _are_ your XL and Con? 05:27 Actually let me quaff a restore ability. 05:27 So naturally you regenerate 2 1/3 HP/turn, 3.5 times as much as the ring. 05:28 Nice. 05:28 Pinkbeast: cool, I hadn't realised regen was that poor compared to natural stuff 05:28 I guess it's still pretty sweet early game tho, if you have the food to support it 05:28 Yep, I'm Xp 19. 05:28 And if you just have no better ring, might as well wear it. But normally I think you do. 05:31 Pinkbeast: What are _your_ favorite rings? 05:31 free action and uh something else 05:32 I tend to wear free action and slow digestion like 99% of the time 05:32 * arahael takes the hint and doesn't ask what that something else might be! ;) 05:32 Slow digestion's kind of pointless outside the very early game 05:33 I've had free action on for teh majority of the game now, and I swap the other ring for tele-control, regen (but not anymore!), or levitiation. 05:33 just one thing less to think about for a while, it's not necessary 05:33 Is fireball ever worth using as a spell? I learnt htat recently but I can't figure out why I'd use it. 05:33 warning's not bad, conflict's an obvious option for the Planes, telecontrol, stealth, a resistance I'm missing if uncrowned, invisibility if not displaced, protection in versions where it affects cancellation... 05:34 I mean, over magic missile... 05:34 Hmm. Do the planes have a lot of monsters? 05:35 (PS in vanilla using conflict on the Astral Plane has a mildly annoying downside, and for all I know in Evil, it makes K2 come around to your house and set fire to your shoelaces) 05:35 Yeah? 05:35 * arahael is playing Vanilla, btw. 05:38 Pinkbeast: it's true, K2 does that if you wear conflict on astral 05:38 * aoei has seen it happen o.o 05:39 With Pw(112), there isn't much point in keeping gain energy, probably best to dilute those... 05:39 aoei: I'm not catching that joke? Why doesn't K2 like conflict on astral? :D 05:39 arahael: K2 doesn't like anythign that makes the game easier :P 05:40 Ah. :) 05:40 Gain energy alchemises healing into EH 05:40 I've drunk all my healing long ago. 05:41 Unfortunate. 05:41 conflict is much less likely to work on astral in evilhack, monsters have better resistance 05:42 on my first evilhack asc I tried conflict like I would in vanilla and it sucked :-) 05:44 One of my horns is indeed a tooled horn! Just identified it. 05:44 So will drop the leather drum. 05:46 * arahael has an idea: Put the magic bane into a cursed BoH, and that'll destroy it! 05:46 (Eventually) 05:46 Why not... drop it? 05:47 (if you don't want it - it's good) 05:47 I suppose it doesn't matter so much if a monster grabs it now. 05:48 drum has longer range than tooled horn if that matters much 05:48 Drop it on a level you're not staying on - gone forever. 05:48 Or put it in a box, chest, sack... 05:49 amateurhour: Yeah, but still heavier than a tooled horn, and I dont' need both, I think. 05:49 roll a boulder over it 05:51 but yes, cursed BoH can work as a shredder 05:51 which is sometimes in evilhack to get rid of reviving zombie corpses :-) 05:52 * aoei needs tea 05:52 !tea 05:52 * Beholder passes aoei a mug of oolong tea, brewed by Athame at 50 degrees Fahrenheit. 05:52 thanks Beholder 05:52 hey Pinkbeast are you also british like me? 05:52 Moderately 05:52 define moderately? 05:53 mine's a bit diluted for having a slavic mother and not having lived in the UK for 5 years now 05:53 Like many of us I'm looking for the exits 05:53 but I certainly need tea to survive 05:53 * arahael is slightly british. 05:53 then again my russian friends who live here drink even more tea than I do 05:55 I'm a coffee drinker TBH 05:55 I mix 05:55 Pinkbeast: I drink tea and coffee. 05:55 start the day with a coffee, then switch to black or green tea until evening 05:55 (Not at the same time) 05:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Paladin of Ptah, on T:50279 05:55 herbal tea or beer in the evening 05:55 Yep. The best way. And I finish up with rooibos in the evening. 05:56 arahael: i love orange redbush 05:56 it's the best flavour 05:56 i don't have any atm 05:56 !coffee 05:56 * Beholder passes amateurhour a cup of cafe latte, replicated by Izchak at 264 Kelvin. 05:56 i should search for it in my local shops 05:57 aoei: Not sure exactly which one I have at the moment, actually, but mine's sold with rose petals (which I kind of pick out) - despite the rose petals, it's the best rooibos tea I've ever had. I have it with a bit of local honey. 05:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:50284 05:58 \o/ 05:59 now for the Idol... 05:59 arahael: :o 05:59 i never tried it with honey 06:00 aoei: Make sure it's *good* honey, not immitation honey. 06:00 plain or vanilla redbush i find a bit boring, but the one I sometimes buy with some orange stuff added is *great* 06:00 arahael: k 06:00 Not sure how well the honey would go with whatever that 'orange stuff' is. 06:00 yeah idk what they put in exactly, I assume it's something from actual oranges but I'm not sure 06:01 Maybe I'm a bit fussy with honey, but having tried a bunch of honeys, and having so much of it, I kind of got used to local, really good honey. 06:01 cool 06:01 i don't eat honey much, I used to have it a lot more 06:01 aoei: Is it the same sort of thing as that mildly carcinogenic thing they add to earl/lady grey tea? (Then again, everything's carcinogenic, and lady-grey tea is one of my favorites...) 06:02 arahael: I LOVE LADY GREY 😍 06:02 and in answer to your question: no idea 06:04 [hdf-au] [nh4] Gadsden (PeachMuffin) (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 19752 points, T:989, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 06:06 Can one enchance unicorn horns, somehow? 06:06 And is it worth doing at all in vanilla? 06:07 They can be enchanted like any weapon. It makes them do more damage. 06:08 And that's it? 06:08 Doesn't make them more likely to cure sickness or the like? 06:10 raisse: You had two magic lamps on your bones level, btw. :) 06:10 raisse: (Including the one in your BoH) 06:11 Can I convert the quest altar, I wonder? 06:18 > Shan Lai Ching seems slightly mollified. 06:18 Heh. 06:21 Interesting, breaking an empty wand does nothing, so it wastes the wrested charge. 06:24 slightly mollified? so not safe to pray yet? 06:25 Well, I kept offering, it's fine now. 06:25 ah, good 06:37 There was a whole shop of scrolls on dlvl 2!?!? 06:38 Including a freaking scroll of charging! 06:38 I'm going to rob it blind. 06:39 lol 06:48 :o 06:48 arahael: asc run?? 06:48 aoei: Yeah, for sure. I think next will be to find the square, then re-check the wiki on the asc run. 06:49 If my wife lets me stay awake... It's nearly 10pm. 06:49 I like your wife, she lets you play nethack 06:49 she's clearly a keeper 06:50 Ha. But yeah, she's awesome. She hand-made pizza! From scratch! 06:50 :o 06:51 marry her! 06:51 oh wait 06:51 ;) 06:51 can you marry her twice? 06:51 Technically... 06:51 But the process is rather... Dangerious... 06:51 :o 06:52 you're arahael. who took on Demogorgon and like 3 other demon princes(ses) at once! danger is your middle name!" 06:52 Ha. :) 06:52 You married? 06:53 ermmmmmm technically yes, still 06:53 waiting for the divorce papers 06:53 * arahael considers that he should have kept his ring of teleport. 06:53 let's not go there 06:53 aoei: Ah, sad to hear that - I hear half of the marriages fail. Lets not go there, indeed. 06:53 I also don't think marriage is for me, doesn't mesh well with the whole poly thing 06:53 which I realised is what I'd prefer anyway 06:53 but yours is good and I'm happy for you! 06:54 Fair enough - and I'm very much into the whole... mono thing. :) 06:54 * aoei left her wife within a year of getting married <.< 06:55 Tricky. 06:55 but yeah whole thing is a real long story i won't get into right now 06:55 And certainly not in a public place. :) 06:55 mm yeah that too 06:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Ran Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5221 06:57 Funny thing is... I'm pretty religious. (Some might say "very"), and I used to have such strong opinions about marriage and all that stuff. Now that I'm married, I'm a bit... Uh... "Whatever works!". It's weird. 06:57 heh, interesting arahael 06:58 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:58 when I first started dating my ex I just accepted monogamy because a) it was a deal-breaker for her and b) it's kinda the standard 06:58 but i'm not sure i ever really *understood* monogamy 06:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Ran Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5382 06:58 and later on realised it's just not for me at all 06:58 Fair enough. :) 06:58 [hdf-au] [nh370] djm2000 (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed plaxcaster's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:6722 07:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 3507 points, T:5533, killed by a leocrotta 07:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) stole 1600 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Skibbereen's second-hand bookstore, on T:45999 07:01 :o 07:01 you cheeky bugger!! 07:02 t46k lol ascension when? 07:02 sry im being dumb 07:02 :) 07:03 I'm going down to find the square tonight! 07:03 :o 07:03 exciting 07:03 But not likely to ascend tonight, it's getting late. 07:03 yeah fair 07:03 !rng watch arahael | play own game 07:03 aoei: play own game 07:06 and strim it on twitch bc why teh f not 07:13 aoei: If you have any ideas of anything I should wish for to add to my asc kit, let me know. :) 07:13 chickatrice corpse 07:13 I have like... potentially five wishes. 07:14 5 chickatrice corpses 07:14 amateurhour: That just makes me super nervious though... What if I fall into a pit? 07:14 wear levi 07:14 Hmm. That'll work. 07:14 I'll find a c on the way down. :D 07:22 amateurhour: it's so nice not having SSH randomly hang on me all the time anymore 07:29 aoei: I seriously like using mosh. :) Seriously. 07:29 aoei: I resisted using mosh for _years_. Don't resist it. :) 07:29 arahael: mosh is cool 07:29 I tend to use screen/tmux 07:29 Same here - via mosh. :) 07:30 arahael: none of those are supported by hardfought/dgamelaunch tho 07:30 aoei: I mosh to a server I then ssh from! 07:30 that seems a bit of a roundabout fix 07:30 arahael: basically it turned out my ISP or my router was constantly shuffling ipv6 addresses 07:30 and every time that happened my connection dropped 07:30 the solution: tell SSH to only use ipv4 07:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:2168 07:30 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:31 after adding AddressFamily inet to my ssh config everything has been just lovely 07:31 aoei: Ah, interesting. I float around either tethering my laptop to my mobile, or I'm using the laptop at home, or from my parents home, etc... And sleep and wake up and all that... mosh takes care of all that. 07:31 i mean don't get me wrong, mosh seems cool 07:31 and I have installed it, tho haven't begun to use it muchb 07:32 Have a stable server, and run tmux and mosh on that, make that instance your home. :) 07:33 I could do those things 07:33 I am quite happy with my setup as it is tho 07:33 especially now that I've solved this annoying problem with hanging nethack games 07:34 :) 07:34 Yeah, actually I'm not sure how great mosh is with nethack - but I use it with nethack. 07:34 mosh is supposed to try and "predict" sometimes, but it seems to work very well regardless. 07:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:15098 07:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law), 27170 points, T:15117, killed by an ogre lord 07:36 arahael: but you can't mosh to hardfought, can you? 07:36 No. :( Not directly. 07:36 arahael: c corpses in inventory do not petrify you when you fall into a pit/downstairs unless you are wielding one 07:37 hothraxxa: Oh! 07:37 hothraxxa: Good to know. 07:37 yeah the only danger if it's in open invent but not wielded is accidentally eating the fucking thing 07:37 levitate when wielding for safety 07:37 for this reason alone I keep them in the bag 07:37 aye. you could eat it accidentally 07:38 and never, never, never have it assigned as inventory letter y 07:38 you *will* die 07:38 Haha, fair enough. 07:39 i also name them 07:39 i think i've actually died that way 07:39 Anyway, this far up, it'll probably rot away. 07:39 inventory letter was y, eyy OOPS BUTTERFINGERS dywypi? 07:39 that's because the rot timer for the oldest one prevails if you stack them 07:39 or maybe it was something liek a food ration was y, c corpse on the floor 07:40 that's also a dangerous situation 07:40 yes. if you don't have gloves don't move if you're blind and there's a c corpse about 07:40 s /have/wear 07:41 even with gloves the eating situation can be fatal if there's a c corpse on the floor and you thought 'y' was your food ration 07:41 no food should be in the y slot 07:42 some variants kinda fix this problem 07:42 cuz you have to eat , for the floor 07:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3169 07:45 !tell AntiGulp I have a random-appearance cloak that doesn't lower my AC. Bug or some splice mechanism I'm not aware of? Judging by the wiki all cloaks except orcish/dwarvish should give 1 AC 07:45 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aoei. 07:49 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 07:52 !tell AntiGulp I have cloak of reflection which gives 0 AC bonus. Intended behaviour? Wiki says it should be AC 1 07:52 Will do, aoei! 07:53 ohhh the wiki entry is for Slex tho, maybe it's changed in SpliceHack 07:54 since I have a cloak of reflection, I'm *super* tempted to just try and wish for GDSM now 07:58 You can put trice corpses into a BoH, right? 07:59 you can indeed 08:00 Awesome. 08:01 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 08:01 remember what i said about stacking them 08:02 I will, it's only the one for now. 08:02 *sigh*. Yet another magic lamp. 08:02 "sigh" ? 08:02 I mean, that seems like a delightful problem to have 08:02 I guess I'll wish for a cursed scroll of geno... For trices? 08:03 Bank it as an emergency wish? 08:03 How many emergency wishes does one need! :) 08:03 I would way rather be able to wish for a rubber chicken than genocide c 08:03 You can wish for one directly? 08:04 You can wish for nearly anything 08:04 Or, more wand of death charges, they never go amiss 08:04 blessed partly eaten chickatrice 08:04 "one blessed partly eaten chickatrice"? 08:04 yes :-) 08:05 in emergencies 08:05 Pinkbeast: How many wands of death does one need!? :D 08:05 Seriously. I never seem to have too few deaths. 08:05 are you keeping a magic lamp for light? 08:05 I have the eyes. 08:05 [hdf-us] [dyn] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4 points, T:59, killed by a falling rock 08:05 ah of course 08:05 ouch 08:06 F. 08:06 arahael: Well, it works on Rodney and it works on Pestilence (and Famine, if you have a truly embarassing surplus of charges) 08:07 Pinkbeast: I have three wands of death, only one of which are empty. And none have been recharged. 08:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:18571 08:07 I should probably charge that third wand before I kill rodney. 08:08 Is that enough? ;) 08:09 Depends on how frisky the mysterious force is, and how often you get Rodney resurrections. I wouldn't burn the magic lamp, but I would regard that as a possible use depending on how things pan out. 08:10 Pinkbeast: I have... Let me count the wishes... 08:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:18796 08:10 Another way of putting it is, what could you carry that's more use for a given weight than a wish? 08:11 6 charges of death, and 2 charges of wish, plus 3 lamps, including this one. 08:11 Not including the wrested wish. 08:12 Also, Rodney can steal the Eyes, so having the light source is nice too 08:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:13 Three lamps, though? :) 08:13 I also have telepathy. 08:14 Well, again, given weight... 08:14 I seem to have everything already. 08:15 lol just ascend already you're killing me here 08:15 :P 08:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] Trillian (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 43112 points, T:9665, killed by a soldier ant 08:15 amateurhour: Yeah, I'm making pathways through genno and going down to find the square - then will get to bed. Ascension will very likely be tomorrow.. 08:16 nice one 08:16 But Pinkbeast seems to be suggesting I'll definitely need death, so will charge the empty wand I have now. 08:16 Er... 08:16 I don't have an extra source of MR, though, that's a potential concern. 08:17 zippity zap death at the wizard whenever he appears 08:17 I mean, you may as well wait and see how things pan out, re death 08:17 I have the eyes, and an ordinary robe. "oR for reflection - and I suppose once Rodney bothers me, I should start wearing the shield. 08:17 _But_ if your only MR is the Eyes, that is a serious problem to address now. 08:17 Especially since you aren't wearing AOLS 08:17 it's not that big a deal, unless you miss like 5 zaps in a row surely 08:17 * amateurhour isn't a cautious player 08:17 :^) 08:19 Maybe I should go back up and get magicbane. 08:19 Wielding it will cripple me, though. 08:20 !pick eu | us 08:20 !choose eu | us 08:20 wtf is the command 08:20 !rng eu | us 08:20 amateurhour: eu 08:20 MB's not terrible, but being dead of no MR will cripple you worse 08:21 I _could_ get a cloak of MR - there's an unidentified cloak in the castle... 08:21 But then I won't have MC. 08:22 Or just wish one up :-) 08:22 Haha. 08:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 118146 points, T:20838, killed by a zruty 08:22 Very good point. Still, don't I need MC? 08:22 CoMR's MC1 - got any rings of protection? 08:22 I do have one. 08:23 That's only like, 30% though, isn't it? 08:23 MC is _nice_, but in a post-343 world MC3 isn't near-perfect so you're going to have to deal with some MC failures anyway. 08:23 MC2 with the ring. 08:24 Fair point. I guess I'll wish for a... *sigh*... CoMR, then start writing scrolls of enchant armour again... 08:25 Well, I'd definitely do something about MR. Wielding Magicbane if something steals the Eyes is the other approach 08:26 That sounds a bit too dicey - not want to get the eyes stolen and *then* have to wield magicbane. 08:26 I'm wishin gthe CoMR. 08:27 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed fireproof cloak of magic resistance", on T:49637 08:27 What are you wielding now? 08:27 Oh, and damn, it was already identified. *sigh*. 08:27 <@microlance> weapons are the worst place to have MR 08:27 I freaking already have one! 08:27 Haha. :) 08:28 Well, at least I no-longer need to carry that lamp! 08:28 And this one is fireproof. :D 08:28 And I have an amulet of lifesaving, too... 08:28 Ooh, and wow, GoP... 08:29 You guys probably hate me at the moment. :D 08:30 On 3.4.3 monk I seem to have had CoMR, SoR, Frosty/Vorpy, speed boots, GoP, helm of brilliance, hawaiian shirt 08:30 Very similar to me, except no frosty/vorpy. 08:31 Oh, a shirt for an extra 4 AC, that's a possibility. Or scrolls of gold detection, if you're short of them. Or confused taming. 08:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1360 08:31 Pinkbeast: Already got all that, except the taming - let me check the taming. 08:31 Surely if you have the SoR you don't need the AoR 08:32 MORNING 08:32 Also punching monsters is a special challenge mode, not a good idea 08:33 Yeeeeah, but the shield seriously inhibits my casting. 08:33 Pinkbeast: i dont remember setting someones shoelaces on fire 08:33 maybe i was in a werefoo haze 08:34 K2: Maybe no-one used conflict on the Astral Plane 08:34 microlance: I agree, I don't like the idea of having a weapon as MR. 08:35 heh 08:35 @microlance how's the giant samurai game going 08:36 <@microlance> just died :/ 08:36 nooooo 08:36 Yeah, I think I'm going to unfortunately stick with the "oR - the SoR is too disruptive to my playing style, and might kill me at this point. 08:36 <@microlance> got hunted by some shambling horrors, then a zruty and a horse did some crazy dmg on the medusa floor and killed me. 08:37 were the shambling horrors particularly nasty in your game? 08:37 <@microlance> they were displaced and seemed very quick. i dunno i killed one but the second one almost killed me. 08:38 <@microlance> i also forgot to wield my long sword when i got crowned, an excalibur would have helped alot when i was to do castle. 08:40 Hmm, ok, I can fight fine with the shield, I thikn I'll use the SoR afterall! 08:41 <@microlance> the excalibur crowning is tricky to remember, i never really play lawfuls. 08:44 https://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html I'm sorry to hear the alot needed help 08:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1430 points, T:4688, killed by a wand, while frozen by a trap 08:52 microlance same here, I tend to forget about excalibur as well 08:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1697 08:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Gno Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3165 09:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Gno Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a food ration on an altar, on T:3529 09:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Gno Mal Cha) had a banded mail entrusted to him by Mars, on T:3542 09:02 i do also 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5870 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:5916 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:6099 09:17 > You feel a strange vibration under your feet. 09:17 Guess it's time to get to bed! :) 09:18 I am so tired I misread that as: "You feel a strange vibration on your face", and I was thinking... "That's odd..." 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:6769 09:19 "You feel a strange vibration on your face! Zits appear from nowhere!" 09:20 !PoM 09:20 APic: The moon is new for 3 more days. 09:21 sleep well arahael 09:23 nabru: eww, the grossest clerical spell 09:23 :D 09:23 I'll take the scale-covered eyes, thanks 09:23 reduces your charisma to 3 09:34 !coffee 09:34 * Beholder tosses nabru a mug of espresso, brewed by NotTheOracle\dnt at -6 degrees Celsius. 09:34 This coffee is cold! You gaga and vomit. You can move again. 09:34 *gag 09:35 !booze everyone 09:35 * Beholder pours everyone a glass of liquid courage, fermented by Athame at 91 degrees Fahrenheit. 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:7938 09:39 nabru: "You have the sudden urge to sing about a bad romance." 09:43 :D 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:8872 09:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 377 points, T:1420, killed by a gnome 09:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1416 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1591 09:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 222 points, T:132, killed by an explosion 09:59 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:9529 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 132 points, T:489, killed by a jackal 10:04 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 111 points, T:242, killed by a jackal 10:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) was given Tensa Zangetsu, on T:3564 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 115 points, T:267, killed by a goblin 10:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4814 10:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:21015 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10363 10:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4994 10:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:5092 10:18 i am thinking about playing the new baldurs gate but i am scared that i will just be disappointed because i am expecting something like nethack 10:18 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5076 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 626 points, T:885, killed by a giant bat 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 7255 points, T:5123, killed by a warg 10:23 I'm thinking about getting it as well stenno 10:23 i learned that its in open beta for another year or so but they still want the full price 10:23 I'm currently playing Badur's Gate: Descent Into Avernus with some friends via roll20 10:23 Baldur's* 10:23 tabletop game, meant to be a prequel of sorts to the third video game 10:24 oh its baldurs gate as a dnd adventure, i see 10:24 yeah 10:24 it's pretty neat so far, though we're not particularly far through it 10:25 i hung out at a friends place and he suddenly mentioned BG, i was surprised how easy it was for me to get into because of my nethack knowledge lol 10:25 thats cool 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:10503 10:25 with my friends i play DSA, a german pen&paper 10:25 the Baldur's Gate collection often goes on sale on steam 10:25 can get it as cheap as like 10 quid sometimes 10:25 doesn't include BG3 ofc 10:25 but if you wanted to play the classic ones 10:25 i tried this but had problems getting it to run natively on macos 10:26 ah 10:26 but bg3 has the apple symbol on steam so i assume it works 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:10593 10:26 that would be my first triple-A title i play since mafia lol 10:27 well thats not true, i played the blizzard games 10:31 I yarred Shadow of Mordor, does that count? (I guess so since AFAICT from Twitch all these open-world territory-and-upgrade games are basically the same so it's like playing several dozen AAA titles...) 10:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:6972 10:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 pair of speed boots", on T:6975 10:32 i really detest this whole 'open world' stuff lol 10:32 its basically just doing the same kind of quests over and over 10:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:6978 10:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of regeneration", on T:6979 10:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:39 Having played one I didn't really feel the need to try another. 10:39 right 10:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7182 10:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:8608 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 507 points, T:1326, killed by a rabid rat, while fainted from lack of food 10:49 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 10:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1753 points, T:2179, poisoned by an orcish arrow 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2035 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:2161 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 2473 points, T:1785, invisible mimic 11:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1805 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "", on T:11689 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 1318 points, T:1153, orc 11:18 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 270 points, T:168, leprechaun 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:11796 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:11799 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Law), 2089 points, T:2565, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bugbear 11:24 <{Demo}> automotive bugbear 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:11803 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Orb of Fate", on T:11815 11:31 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 11:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 10968 points, T:8973, killed by a burning scroll 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:11840 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1774 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:1790 11:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1475 points, T:1920, killed by a crocodile 11:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:16087 11:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:16099 11:40 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:34935 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Curate, on T:12263 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35267 11:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:2238 11:56 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 378 points, T:730, killed by a jackal, while dressing up 11:57 [hdf-us] [dyn] groovejumper (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 766832 points, T:56805, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/groovejumper/dynahack/dumplog/2020-10-16%2011_57_19%2C%20groovejumper-Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 12:00 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 86 points, T:300, homunculus 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 326 points, T:453, orc 12:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed tsingi's ghost, the former Novice, on T:3550 12:13 ;o 12:14 bones ghost kill 12:14 toit 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 504 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:13265 12:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3985 12:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5475 12:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Gno Mal Cha), 6720 points, T:4569, killed by a watchman 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:1046 12:24 -!- amateurhour is now known as emateurhour 12:24 -!- emateurhour is now known as amateurhour 12:24 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 375 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:13792 12:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:7720 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1144 points, T:2566, killed by a coyote 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35533 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35534 12:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:6846 12:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7406 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3129 12:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4117 points, T:4522, killed by a death ray 12:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 9 points, T:51, killed by a jackal 12:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:13072 12:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 319 points, T:859, killed by a gas spore's explosion 12:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13089 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:35812 12:49 mattock of torment 12:50 what is that even? 12:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law), 22410 points, T:13175, killed by a snake 12:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Hob Fem Law), 306 points, T:1428, killed by Ms. Sipaliwini; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 12:51 which variant loli? 12:51 xnethack 12:51 I think xnh has randomly named things if they have enchantment (positive or negative) 12:52 ahh I see 12:52 the wiki says +2 or greater 12:52 and can't be cursed or below +2 12:54 it can be +1 if it generated erodeproof as well (but that's rare) 13:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Cha) stole 830 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kadirli's used armor dealership, on T:1011 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:15260 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:15350 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:15351 13:09 I think I have teh wand of wishing now! when I go back to di things 13:11 xnh changes how the wand works, iirc you can't charge it and there's a few guaranteed wands 13:11 the castle should still have one right? 13:12 also soliders without guns are a joke 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Master, on T:36170 13:12 yeah it has one 13:14 now I need to figure out how to get to the other side 13:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:32560 13:14 oh... or I can fall 13:17 any good wishes? 13:17 I was thinking of 13:17 blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail 13:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:18 also it doesn't matter if a wand of wishing is cursed right? 13:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12712 13:20 I'll play more later, have work to finish today 13:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:38092 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Priest, on T:7111 13:27 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1267 points, T:3503, killed by a giant ant 13:29 loli: in the upcoming version, dragon scale mail is no longer a thing 13:29 what? 13:29 what is a replacement for dragon scale mail? 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 15193 points, T:4916, choked 13:29 loli: there is no replacement, you simply die 13:29 well what armors are there, and what should I be aiming for once that is in? 13:29 suddenly, aosdict reveals their true form, it was Amy in disguise all along 13:29 muahahahahaah 13:30 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:30 aoei that's a super bad joke, why would I *remove* stuff, I'm literally the last variant developer that would remove an existing item from the game 13:30 LarienTelrunya: oh right true 13:30 idk you seem to remove altars a lot :^) 13:30 you add things to kill players 13:30 not remove things to ... well to also kill players 13:31 LarienTelrunya: I'm getting far I made it to hell, beat medusa, my quest boss, and the castle 13:31 I'm just thinking of things to wish for besides 13:31 loli: :o 13:31 blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail 13:31 I have 1 more wish after this after work 13:31 loli: you could finally beat slex! 13:31 idk what for 13:31 well aoei in slex spirits are op 13:31 at least my 1 spirit run 13:31 I died to slime by not reading 13:31 aw :( 13:31 F 13:31 but I would have gone really far 13:31 you will win next time 13:31 next game 13:31 nah 13:31 I can see this 13:32 I'm not good yet 13:32 this is my first time in nethack making it somewhere 13:32 I think I can push this current build far 13:32 !whereis dolores 13:32 LarienTelrunya: dolores is not playing. 13:32 I'm working now 13:32 huh 13:32 I have the orb of weight 13:33 hey Amy u wanna watch me play slex as Transvestite Addict 13:33 yeah I need to think of alternate mails besides dragon scale 13:33 in slex? I don't think it weighs much there 13:33 in xnethack 13:33 I'm getting better at slex by learning nethack basics LarienTelrunya 13:33 aoei: urgh, I'd love to, but super busy right now, came home from a long tour and there's now what feels like a hundred calls on my damn phone 13:33 oh damn 13:33 feel free to play anyway, I'll look from time to time 13:33 LarienTelrunya: also when did you add guns to soliders 13:33 nah i'll play splice instead 13:33 and play slex when you can watch and give me tips 13:33 they are kind of easy in non slex 13:33 :3 13:34 loli: haha why were you telling me all that, play slex or I'm not interested :P 13:34 Amy cares only for SLEX 13:34 when did you? 13:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 13 points, T:257, killed by a fox 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7146 13:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17793 13:38 !pom 13:38 raisse: The moon is new for 3 more days. 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Journeyer, on T:38657 13:40 loli: dragon scale mail is fine in xnethack 5.x 13:41 yes, but I mean, what does one go for besides dragon scale mail? 13:41 in 6.0 is the new system of dragon-scaled body armor 13:41 new system? 13:41 which is basically "pick your favorite body armor, and embed whatever color of scales you like best into it" 13:43 I see, seems simple enough 13:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:5497 13:44 that is sad 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:16815 13:44 benefits of the new system: you can have two dragon extrinsics (embedded body armor and scales worn as a cloak), and the body armor gets +3 AC by being scaled 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16817 13:45 I think I'll wish for speed boots once i get back in, and see if I can kill a dragon for scale mail 13:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 513 points, T:1248, killed by a rothe 13:48 aosdict: once the scales are fused in there, they can't be removed? 13:48 or could you swap it between different armors as you find better armor 13:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14549 13:52 oh also, forgot to say: altars are working as intended :P if "find 1 altar = always know BUC of everything" (as long as you care to walk back whenever you acquired a bunch of new items), why even have BUC not known immediately when you find an item? it's... well I say it's stupid (the way it works in vanilla) 13:53 loli: you can't remove scales for use somewhere else, but you can take other scales and enchant them onto the armor (which makes the old color of scales disappear) 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:17027 13:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 10469 points, T:5643, killed by an owlbear 13:58 Amy somehow I get the feeling you're not keen on unlimited resources 14:00 aoei: that is indeed the case, stethoscopes in slex break for example or unicorn horns do too :P otherwise, once you find one, you're permanently much stronger than before and I strongly dislike that 14:00 indeed, once you find one of $tool in vanilla, you're often set and no longer care if you find another of the same type of tool which I find very unfortunate 14:01 it should *matter* whether you get lucky enough to find several stethoscopes, IMHO 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:39000 14:02 i mean i guess it makes sense 14:02 nothing is ever unlimited in real life at least 14:02 things do wear or break eventually 14:02 YASlexI: artifact weapons break over time 14:02 <@microlance> not unicorn horns, they last forever once you find one 14:03 <@microlance> i know that to be a fact, not that i have a unicorn horn 14:03 YASlexI: randomly, another adventurer will wish for one of your artifacts and it will disappear 14:04 "You hit the purple worm! The purple worm bites! The purple worm engulfs you! The purple worm digests you! You break out of the hill orc! The hill orc turns to flee! Trouble bites the hill orc. The hill orc is killed!" 14:04 All in one turn. 14:04 huh, what happened there? 14:04 must have been a shapeshifter that went from w to o while I was ingested? 14:05 lol, yesterday I ate unicorn ice cream and it didn't last forever :P 14:05 I've never tele-fragged anything in nethack before. \o/ 14:05 also re: "unicorn horns last forever", in Elona they're used up immediately when applied 14:05 btw can you throw 2 handed weapons with a shield, like xnethacks mjllnir 14:05 I'm trying to think how I will get good ranged attack for mind flayers later... almost died to one earlier in the game 14:05 loli: scrolls ;-) 14:06 mjollnir must be wielded before it can be thrown 14:06 <@microlance> if it was ice cream made from a real unicorns milk, it would constantly regenerate and therefore last forever. 14:06 it can't be wielded with a shield. so... 14:06 what a shame 14:06 my shield is my only reflection 14:07 I should cheat in soko and finish it 14:07 and see if It has a reflection amulet 14:07 why cheat? also: probably? 14:08 I moved a boulder 1 too far, then gave up 14:08 there is a 50% chance of the reward being useless 14:08 it may be fixable 14:08 detective #hardfought is on the case 14:08 it blocks a spot needed to move things 14:08 loli: I'm amazed that you cite your slex experience as the reason why you're somehow better at a 3.6-based variant now, because that plays completely differently than slex 14:08 so I'd say I need to destory the boulder 14:08 loli: tele isn't cheating. 14:08 I'm using them to get good at slex, it teaches me base game mechanics 14:09 I need to destory the boulder IIRC 14:09 but I'd have to check 14:09 well don't try to apply 3.6 strategies to slex :P just saying 14:09 LarienTelrunya: but I didn't really know how to bless potions, before playing base 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 140 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39275 14:09 it teaches me some basic strategies I'd otherwise overlook 14:10 LarienTelrunya: I'm going to try a Slex strategy of worshipping Zin and using Recite on everything 14:11 Pinkbeast: huh? you're applying thegamewithsigmund strategies to slex? hahaha 14:12 also aoei I'm properly here now at last, finished all those emails and calls and am eating chicken mcnuggets now so I could watch you ♥ 14:13 haaaay 14:13 cool 14:13 sorry that it took so long 14:13 i'll play a bit after i grab some tea or somethin 14:13 no need to apologise lol 14:13 you're not like my slex watching minion or whatever 14:14 LarienTelrunya: I assume if anything's sufficiently amusing you'll just put it in slex 14:14 fr: Sigmund 14:14 Pinkbeast: this seems to be how she operates, from what ive seen at least 14:15 heh, I wish there was a huge big list of DCSS monsters with stats so I could port them all 14:15 including the 2000 monsters they removeremoveremoved in earlier versions, of course :P 14:15 There is - it's mon-data.h :-) 14:15 does slex have flauschige Strumphosen? 14:15 (It's _slightly_ less cryptic than the NetHack equivalent, which is faint praise) 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:17525 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:17527 14:16 Tho' the six ways a monster can be not normal speed are quite baffling at times 14:16 aoei: not sure, what would be an appropriate english translation? 14:17 fleecy tights i think 14:17 More seriously DCSS's uniques are brilliant (and Angband's aren't bad), NetHack and variants could use more of those - there's lots of preplaced ones, but not many that just roam the dungeon and turn up sometimes at inopportune moments. So perhaps "fr: Sigmund" isn't just a joke. 14:18 well slex has uniques that spawn randomly 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 140 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39548 14:18 You're way ahead of me. 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39722 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39741 14:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Mal Neu), 2318 points, T:2446, killed by a jaguar, while praying 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided floating eyes, on T:39752 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3322 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:39792 14:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 1644 points, T:3008, killed by a rothe 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 653171 points, T:19540, turned into green slime, while helpless 14:44 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 14:49 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 14:51 [hdf-eu] [slex] aoei (Tra Add Mal Cha), 16586 points, T:5275, killed by a monster (invisible Ms. Siverek, the shopkeeper) 14:51 !lastgame aoei 14:51 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/evilhack/dumplog/1601908834.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/slex/dumplog/1598291365.slex.txt 14:52 Go Team Invisible Shopkeeper! 14:52 ;( 14:52 hey to be fair 14:52 i *made* that shk invisible 14:52 :D 14:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Big Room, on T:20334 14:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:50931 14:56 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:40470 15:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11879 15:02 no invis shopkeep 15:02 :( 15:02 LarienTelrunya: mean shop keep go away 15:02 can we genocide invisble shop keepers? 15:02 lol 15:02 > bumps into a shop keeper 15:02 > gets smited from god 15:03 well yeah that was a bug, and is fixed in 2.68 15:03 sorry about that 15:03 i bumped into the last one i met. he called the cops and then killed me 15:03 no gods 15:03 I'm the ultimate bug tester 15:03 just get smited by god 15:04 oh slex. then the shk probably kills you and humps your corpse 15:04 shk? 15:04 lazytype for shopkeeper 15:04 ahh 15:04 nah what loli experienced was an actual bug; if the shk kills you it works as intended, but he got lightninged and wide-angle-disintegrated by the gods for bumping into an invisible shk 15:05 then the gods humped the corpse 15:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:12216 15:05 it's true admit it 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1104 points, T:4350, killed by a hobgoblin, while reading a book 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Figurine of a Throne Archon", on T:12393 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 13232 points, T:7495, killed by withering away, while praying 15:15 :( 15:15 that is a sad death 15:16 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Ama Ang Fem Cha), 180 points, T:308, killed by a monster (Nastinir) 15:16 !lastgame nabru 15:16 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/slex/dumplog/1602866067.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/slex/dumplog/1590976383.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 15:17 looks like a fountain was involved... don't mess with fountains, kids :P (and in the upcoming slex 2.68 they won't be able to give wishes anyway unless your XL is at least 7) 15:17 fountains can give wishes? 15:17 (so getting rid of the fountain quaffing habit now would be a good idea in preparation for the new version :P ) 15:18 Actually, I tried to convert an alter 15:18 *altar 15:18 Which resulted in Moloch sending some nasties 15:18 oh and I guess you used a human corpse for that? or did the demons gate in that lord? 15:19 I used a human corpse, I think 15:19 rip 15:19 loli: in vanilla and many variants, a fountain can produce a friendly demon who grants you a wish, but the odds decrease as you descend until there is no chance at all at dl19 15:19 oh... 15:19 so I should do it early on? 15:19 I'd love to have just 1 more wish 15:19 if you do it, yes 15:19 there are lots of possible negative effects so beware 15:20 dipping instead of quaffing helps with some of the negative stuff 15:21 i never quaff and i dip for other reasons. if i get a wish great 15:21 more than a few times i have gotten a hostile demon who immediately gated in more hostile demons 15:21 i once had eight before i got off the level 15:22 yeah, for that reason I avoid drinking from fountains 15:22 drinking from fountains: Just Say No. 15:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:25575 15:23 pinkbeast or somebody linked to an analysis that showed the odds are better than you think 15:23 yeah, they're not too bad once you can deal with the most common nastiness, like groups of water moccassins 15:23 quaffing can curse your stuff 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 823 points, T:2679, killed by a gnome lord 15:26 I wrote http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/magicfountain.txt (tl;dr if you are prepared for the other consequences, and minimise potentially cursed inventory, it seems worth it) 15:26 so it was you 15:27 It often is 15:27 I remember working all this out on rgrn years ago, so it all came back to me. 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2731 15:28 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 15:30 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 15:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:13830 15:31 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 15:32 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:32 -!- unsound_ has joined #hardfought 15:33 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:33 how many unsounds do we need 15:34 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:42 YANI: ring of criticality. Charged ring. When positively enchanted, it occasionally uses a point of its enchantment to deliver a guaranteed critical hit that does double damage. (The critical also affects arti stuff like vorpal blade). If negatively enchanted, the mechanics are the same except it delivers guaranteed critical misses. 15:42 (Which, in bizarro nethack terms, means having a die roll of 20 for a critical failure and 1 for a critical success.) 15:43 A +0 ring has no effect until charged again. 15:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:20231 15:45 You'd have to have a ton of spare charging 15:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:15589 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4077 points, T:2194, killed by a rothe 15:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided arch-liches, on T:52432 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:35001 15:55 Pinkbeast: Perhaps it shouldn't spend points? Maybe it has an enchantment % chance of delivering a crit? 15:55 actually that sounds better 15:57 I fear it might caught between being largely unimportant on most weapons and godlike on Vorpy and the Tsurugi. 15:58 the double damage is to avoid being unimportant on most weapons 15:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:15869 16:00 Right - but then it may be godlike on those two. What I mean is IDK if there's a sweet spot. 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law), 581 points, T:1225, killed by a kobold 16:04 time to play more nethack 16:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of magical breathing", on T:52582 16:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:32923 16:07 man +0 speed boots 16:07 aosdict: is wishing for +x not work? 16:07 I don't even see it being fireproof 16:07 it's only chance of, not guaranteed 16:07 what a shame 16:07 they will be fireproof though 16:07 +2 is conservative 16:07 okay 16:08 yeah, but it's still only chance of 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4339 16:08 I'm saving my last wish as I need to know if I can get scales from these dragons 16:08 :) 16:08 hmm black and blue dragons 16:09 some one beat them up? 16:09 yes 16:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:33353 16:16 I should have done gray I'm a dummy 16:18 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed teamsplay's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:378 16:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 186597 points, T:24008, killed by an orange dragon, while paralyzed by a monster 16:34 aaaa 16:34 "a set of blue dragon scales " 16:34 I wasted my wish on armor 16:38 -!- tromix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided gremlins, on T:41901 16:41 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41993 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42010 16:45 hmm where are the down stairs? 16:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:48 you need to go through the pits 16:48 holes 16:48 I covered them all 16:48 then, levelport 16:48 I don't have that controlled yet 16:48 kinda need it.. wish? 16:48 used my wishes 16:48 I wonder if I can dig down 16:49 no way to dig 16:49 thats' dumb 16:49 it's just levelport, or Aethiopica's branchporting 16:49 which variant> 16:49 xnethack 16:49 oh sorry 16:49 idk about that 16:49 you should be able to dig through one of the plugged trapdoors 16:50 ahh raeally? 16:50 really 16:50 YOU DOUBT ME??? 16:50 thanks 16:50 prepare for the wide beam of disintegration 16:51 I have reflection 16:51 so ha! 16:51 it's wide. your reflection is no good here 16:51 REFLECT ON YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS MORTAL 16:51 poof! you're dead 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:42258 16:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:34715 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a magical conical hat entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:5413 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:42263 16:57 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 7962 points, T:5554, killed by a dwarf lord 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42507 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:42510 17:06 yay telport control 17:06 I can tp to my stashes now 17:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 2469 points, T:1833, quit 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:42791 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Voyager, on T:42908 17:11 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:12 only the wand of cancellation can break your BoH right? since I've identified it, does that mean I can put every wand in there without having to check first? 17:12 <@riker> yeah, once youv'e FORMALLY identified cancellatoin it should be good 17:12 a wand of cancellation (0:4) {7} 17:12 good 17:12 <@riker> i would be very careful with any unidentified wands anyway though, or at least ones that make engravings vnanish 17:13 well I read an id scroll 17:13 so I can be certain that I can put everything in except for named cancellation 17:13 right? 17:15 <@riker> yeah, the only other thing is other bags of holding 17:15 <@riker> or bags of tricks 17:15 never put bags in my bag gotcha 17:15 <@riker> ymmv in variants though, i know evilhack has magicbane explody too 17:15 well I am just playing xnethack, so semi vanilla 17:15 god I love orb of weight + tp control 17:15 I can finally consolidate all my stashes 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 979 points, T:687, orc 17:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:2316 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:43970 17:31 GOD DAMNIT 17:31 :( 17:31 very sad death 17:32 <@riker> top ten saddest anime deaths? 17:32 yes 17:32 this run was great 17:32 I had everything to get pretty far 17:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law), 350547 points, T:36380, petrified by a cockatrice 17:32 was too slow reaching in my BoH 17:32 !lastgame 17:32 loli: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/xnethack/dumplog/1602555724.xnh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tromix/nethack/dumplog/1602855736.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PeachMuffin/nethack4/dumplog/2020-10-16%2010%3A03%3A58%2C%20Gadsden-Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 17:32 unicorn horn doesn't cure it 17:33 exiting out of taking a thing out eats your turn 17:33 which sucks 17:33 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 17:33 how many turns does it take to reach in the bag? 17:34 so lesson learned canceling taking out an item wastes time 17:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:4167 17:35 "Your two weapon skill was limited by being unskilled with with broadsword." 17:35 interesting 17:35 I never knew that 17:36 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:36 <@riker> yeah, two-weaponing uses the lower of your 2wep skills, your main hand skill, and your offhand skill 17:36 riker do you know if there is a way to cancel an operation in a bag without using the turn? 17:38 <@riker> escape? 17:38 <@riker> like, the esc key? 17:38 I did that 17:38 it just ate my turn 17:38 <@riker> huh, wack 17:38 <@riker> i'm pretty sure tha'ts handled in apply.c - the apply-object function calls various functions that each return 0/1 for "takes a turn"/"doesn't"? 17:38 I tried not burdening myself as I tried taking out all corpses instead of 1 17:39 <@riker> it's possible that you can't cancel it anymoer once you've committed to taking things out 17:39 <@riker> since tha'ts the same as "peek in bag", which takes a turn 17:39 hmm how annoying 17:40 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 17:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6738 17:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 16849 points, T:6960, quit 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:13878 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:44079 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16590 18:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1534 18:16 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:19186 18:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30306 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 34560 points, T:21086, petrified by a cockatrice 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:44622 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:44636 18:35 How many potions of holy water should I have for the asc run? I've got... 3... Otherwise overprepared in every other respect... 18:35 More would be good 18:36 I'll make some in the moat. 18:36 (At the real wizard tower) 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Demonbane", on T:44644 18:38 Will make 16 potions. 18:39 Oh, wow! There's objects in the moat! 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 8484 points, T:2994, centaur 18:40 Hmm, minus the oil. Turns out they don't mix. 18:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2124828 points, T:44645, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/i/ichbinmiah/nethack/dumplog/1602012514.nh.html 18:44 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 18:44 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 18:46 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 18:46 <@dexsg> Grats! 18:47 -!- unsound_ has joined #hardfought 18:47 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:48 <@ichbinmiah> thanks! my first ever back to back asc 18:48 <@riker> !streak ichbinmiah 18:48 @riker: [hdf-us] ichbinmiah Max[nh370]: 2 (2020-08-03 - 2020-10-16)(current). 18:48 a piece of toast to @ichbinmiah! 18:48 <@riker> you gotta flex it dude 18:48 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 18:49 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:50 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 18:50 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:52 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 18:52 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:53 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:53 <@dexsg> Wow we got a first streak and maybe a first ascension. Exciting times 18:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:55 Not going to ascend this morning though - I've some social things to get to. :( 18:55 And then I have to get this laptop repaired in the arvo... (Will use the work laptop to continue the game!) 18:56 <@ichbinmiah> good luck arahael! 18:56 Thanks. :) 19:03 The invisible wizard suddenly appeared! Alas, just now, I have to go get ready. 19:03 And the first thing he did was double-trouble... 19:04 I did mention you might want some wand of death charges. :-) 19:04 Yeah, I didn't want to kill him whilst he was on the moat. 19:04 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:04 It was a landmine that woke him up. 19:05 (Or similar) 19:06 So I guess from this point onwards I don't need to worry about double-trouble again, as there's already two of them. 19:06 Also, I can't see the wizard. There's a lot of steam. 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 796 points, T:2152, killed by a rabid rat 19:22 Rodney can double trouble again 19:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 54514 points, T:9984, quit 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 121 points, T:555, killed by a falling rock 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:25054 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 967 points, T:1663, killed by an arrow 19:37 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2103 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5032 19:58 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 9565 points, T:8970, killed by an elven arrow 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 664 points, T:1410, killed by a white unicorn 20:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4494 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1908 20:06 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 20:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4864 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 6789 points, T:4940, killed by a sasquatch 20:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law), 2256 points, T:5559, killed by a yeti 20:27 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 4016 points, T:2798, killed by a baby silver dragon 20:27 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 0 points, T:27, killed by a newt 20:39 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:23747 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:23813 20:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 1462 points, T:1941, quit 20:56 -!- Menchers has left #hardfought 21:06 -!- Xaleth has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 21:10 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:23 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 21:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Necromancer, on T:29170 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:71, killed by a water moccasin 21:40 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 21:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:31216 21:56 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 21:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 22:00 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66971 22:01 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:66973 22:03 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) woke the rulers of Gehennom by performing the invocation, on T:67144 22:03 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:67144 22:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:4978 22:14 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 22:16 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) genocided class U, on T:67565 22:17 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:29 well this is weird, there's two altars in the high priest's room. 22:29 oh, it's a mimic. Rookie mistake 22:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:67744 22:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:67748 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2021 22:31 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Kostchtchie, on T:67882 22:32 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:67891 22:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:33989 22:34 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:67994 22:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "holy fixed silvered +3 Rod of Lordly Might", on T:29184 22:38 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Zuggotomoy, on T:68432 22:41 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Buer, on T:68780 22:50 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:51 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:69801 22:51 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:54 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:70111 23:00 in splice is a "crispy lizard corpse" useful against footrices? 23:04 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by the storm, on T:70217 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 233 points, T:343, killed by a hobbit 23:07 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker named voting pen", on T:70226 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3046 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3101 23:15 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:70479 23:15 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:70479 23:16 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:70494 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6710 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6918 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a rothe corpse, on T:3834 23:19 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha), 1978606 points, T:70629, killed by Gluttony (with the Amulet) 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Field Worker, on T:3860 23:19 wow. That was severe burning 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:8877 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:10946 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a monkey, on T:4438 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13713 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:15968 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4830 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:17419 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:18624 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:5077 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:23463 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:24161 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "uncursed marker", on T:24163