00:03 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law), 151 points, T:814, killed by a boulder 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36640 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:37151 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:37151 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:37408 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:37417 00:08 Sub-40k ez 00:08 Let's go 00:08 Also what's this looking like real-time wise 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:37471 00:09 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5680 00:09 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:5680 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1360984 points, T:37494, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1602726575.nh.html 00:09 w t f 00:09 didn't even pause 00:09 <@luxidream> probably like 2h30 lol 00:10 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) attained the rank of Priest, on T:5790 00:10 Like I said, seasonsed pro 00:10 seasoned* 00:10 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:5822 00:10 didn't even see which rider that last one was 00:10 did someone say taco seasoning? 00:10 <@luxidream> death 00:11 klintos: Ah, or if they burn your only scroll of charging and spare blank scrolls, and robe. ;) 00:11 what was up with all the drumming? 00:11 in the water plane? 00:11 Is there any way you could be seen as visible when both invisble and polymorphed into a large monster that can't wear a cloak? 00:12 <@luxidream> the water elementals annoy me and can stand on top of the portal 00:12 constant drumming keep them away? 00:12 keeps 00:12 <@luxidream> yea 00:13 <@luxidream> time was 2:19:46 00:13 Nice 00:13 I'd be happy if I can keep it under 2 days 00:13 I've never done it in one sitting 00:14 -!- Menchers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4030 00:18 orctown 00:18 bah 00:20 lol RIP 00:20 oh I'm still kickin 00:22 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law), 463 points, T:1606, done in by a rothe 00:22 Nah, I just hate Orc Town 00:23 !rng orctown anything-else 00:23 klintos: orctown 00:23 see? 00:24 <@luxidream> !rng orctown minetown minetown minetown minetown minetown minetown minetown 00:24 @luxidream: orctown 00:24 must be a new moon 00:25 <@luxidream> !pom 00:25 @luxidream: The moon is new for 4 more days. 00:25 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law), 293 points, T:501, killed by an arrow 00:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 3629 points, T:2236, zombie 00:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 146 points, T:160, little dog called Rex 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:1485 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] 1800lilith (Val Hum Fem Law), 681 points, T:4050, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:851 00:38 klintos: Haha - just finally caught hte reference to Izchak. :) 00:39 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1967 00:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:2733 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:2810 00:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:2877 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3201 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3391 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3413 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:3483 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Knight, on T:3164 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed ezion's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:3940 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Pri Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14046 01:05 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law) attained the rank of Page of Claws, on T:3373 01:08 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Enki, on T:3507 01:08 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) killed the Failure Eidolon, on T:7220 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 59 points, T:303, killed by a fox 01:14 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law) had Avalon bestowed upon her by Enki, on T:3755 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:5427 01:22 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 01:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 01:23 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:65457 01:25 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 01:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 01:29 -!- lorimer has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:29 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 01:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7405 01:31 -!- lorimer has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:31 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 01:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9215 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] 1800lilith (Val Hum Fem Law), 110 points, T:743, killed by exhaustion 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of B - a fo�, the former Valkyrie, on T:6285 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of �, the former Valkyrie, on T:6461 01:45 thought I botched fl2 of soko on my phone for a sec but big brained a fix 01:45 left the usual 4 boulders behind 01:53 Umbire: Nice. :) I always manage to figure out my soko, never really have a problem with it, but I also often do end up cheaing once or twice. 01:53 Perhaps i should watch someone else do a few. 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] 1800lilith (Val Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:1020 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 12597 points, T:7670, blaze of fire 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Peregrinator, on T:12404 01:57 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12496 02:02 Alright, time to figure out this last floor 02:04 Ogre lord, gargoyle, and balucitherium are the worst I have to deal with in the zoo, according to intrinsic telepathy 02:04 3 blank spots have me worried though 02:05 8* rather 02:05 But I have stealth so as long as there isn't any sudden light attacks I'll be fine 02:06 Umbire: I usually use sleep on the ogre and balucitherium. Sleep's unreliable for gargoyle, though, imho. 02:06 Giant mimic isn't blocking any part of the puzzle either, which is good 02:06 I'm in no position to spell cast but I have some fire/cold wand charges and I can play hit and run using my speed and aklys 02:06 Umbire: I also tend to look for any pets, and chuck food at all of them if they come at me, and let them fight and die for me. 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] 1800lilith (Val Hum Fem Law), 944 points, T:2282, poisoned by a rotted giant rat corpse 02:07 Umbire: It's a seriously long coridor, though - I find that indeed opening the door and simply running away for a bit slows down the rate of monsters quite nicely. 02:14 And as mentioned before, intrinsic stealth 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1817 02:14 I think it's so easy for me because I used the wiki and memorized the maps, with what looks to be speed strats included with them 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2146 02:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:20 Umbire: Yeah, same - I'm always a monk, remember. :) 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] 1800lilith (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered cutiepatootie!!!, her faithful kitten, on T:1203 02:25 Is a Helm of Brilliance useful if wisdom is already maxed? 02:26 Yeah, can put you over the max 02:26 Oh, nice. 02:26 Your "natural" max for each stat before item enchantments is determined by your race 02:28 Very nice. 02:30 And there's a mumak. 02:32 And I took two sets of hits for 2/3 of my HP after *successfully* hitting it with a thrown paralysis potion. 02:34 Not dead, but kinda miffed at that series of events. 02:34 Brb meds. 02:44 Man, always struggle with wishes. 02:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:50 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:58 If I want a magic marker from polypiling, I suppose I should put, on individual squares in a line: my 3 spare unicorns, my tinning kit, two (unidentified) horns, drum, and pick-axe? 02:58 And then, I might as well put a ring on each of those? 02:58 And an empty scroll on each of those... 02:59 And a bit of armour on each of those... Except there isn't really any armour I want anymore... So I won't do that one... 03:00 I don't think I can actually stack anything I want to polypile. 03:00 Except maybe scrolls... Is it ever worth polypiling stacks of empty scrolls? 03:01 There is *one* thing I really seriously want: Scroll of enchant armour. Ok, perhaps three things I really want: Enchant Armour, Magic Markers, and a ring of slow digestion. I do have a wand of wishing, though. 03:02 You have infinite time to think. :B 03:02 But thinking hurts! 03:02 :D 03:06 do you need to poly for a marker? 03:06 how many wishes do you have left and what do you still need? 03:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:24166 03:13 amateurhour: I have about 5 wishes, I think. 1 left before recharging, which will get me 3 more, plus one I could wrest. 03:13 amateurhour: I also have a wand of poly with 7 charges. And an excess of rings and 29 blessed unlabelled scrolls. 03:14 What I "really want" is an abundance of enchant armour, plus a ring of slow digestion would be nice though that's going to fill up a ring slot so I won't actually be wishing for that yet. 03:14 Incidentially, one lack I have is I don't have any MC, that I know about... 03:15 And some grease would be ince... 03:15 *nice... 03:15 MC isn't really needed, robe from master kaen will give MC 2 03:15 grease isn't essential either really 03:15 wishing for a marker is a good idea, one marker ought to be more than enough enchant armour 03:15 Yeah, but it'd be good for my BoH. I think I have everything I otherwise need. 03:16 what do you need the boh to be greased for? 03:16 I sometimes stupidly fall into water. 03:16 ah 03:17 I currently wear a cloak of protection. 03:17 lol 03:17 you have MC 3 03:17 Oh, sorry... Let me check... I have MR It's a cloak of Magic resistance. 03:18 oh 03:18 Currently in the castle, btw. 03:18 done the quest? 03:18 No, I failed the quest, had to get the heck out. 03:19 Need to seriously bump up my armour before I think about getting back in... And then it'd likely be a melee attack. 03:19 is your boulder fort intact? 03:19 I burned both death charges I had at the time - both missed. 03:19 No, the boulder fort is not intact. Master Kaen was meditiating. 03:20 Drums, etc, didn't waken him. The only thing that did wake him up was apparently getting burdened. It was a seriously lucky escape. 03:20 do you have a scroll of earth and wand of tele? 03:20 Wand of tele, yes. Scroll of earth... No, but can write them. 03:22 got a wand of sleep? 03:22 just trying to think what I did last time I was in that situation 03:23 Yes, I also have a spell of sleep, too. 03:23 But I want to get my prot up regardless, anyway. 03:23 Ie, MC. 03:23 *AC 03:24 I'm creating my piles with stuff I don't care about. 03:24 fair enough, though wishing for a marker seems sensible either way 03:25 Yeah, I do seem to have wishes to burn. I think what I'm hoping for is to be able to get a scroll of enchant armour out of this. 03:25 I think last time I zapped tele at kaen after going down the stairs and read another earth to fix the fort 03:25 And/or ring of slow digestion. 03:25 Nice idea, actually. 03:26 he can deal something nuts like 150 damage in a single turn max 03:26 maybe it's not quite that high, gonna look it up 03:26 Yeah, he whupped me last time, I got three hits from him. 03:27 I only made it because I happened to have a ring of teleport control on, and a wand of teleport - a deliberate escape strategy. 03:27 But even then - it was close. 03:27 I think I lost about 120 HP all up, in that turn. 03:28 oh it's like 112 max, still that's quite a punch 03:28 Especially given how freaking fast he is. 03:29 yeah 03:29 I assume there's no chance of getting a wand of death or wish out of a polypile? ;) 03:29 * arahael seriously has an over-abundance of wands and crap. 03:29 there is a chance 03:30 Wow. Maybe I'll put a wand on each of the 7 squares... And zap them *once*. 03:30 for death I mean, can't get wow 03:30 Ah, not worth it then. 03:30 Death is easy to find. ;) 03:30 lol 03:30 you could just charge your wand of death 03:31 Exactly. 03:31 *wands, btw. 03:32 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law) murdered Daniel the dangerous jaguar, her faithful jaguar, on T:8281 03:32 THe only thing that hasn't been generated yet is GoP, (and Enchant Armour), but I think I don't need GoP. GoD is good enough, especially once I enchant it. 03:33 Ooh, I should put an amulet on each of those piles! :D 03:33 what for? 03:33 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law) performed her first genocide (cockatrices), on T:8367 03:33 don't you already have reflection? 03:34 you'll get amulet of life saving in Vlad's 03:34 I do, but a spare is always nice. ;) 03:34 Just want to maximise what I'm polypiling. 03:34 This is my first time, mind you, so I'm perhaps over-doing it. 03:35 definitely :P 03:35 seems like everyone overprepares for the first ascension 03:36 looking forward to tnnt? 03:36 Frankly, I'm not really into the ascension - you can't continue the game once ascended, can you? ;) 03:36 tnnt is probably the easiest time to ascend a monk 03:36 I won't be doign tnnt, but I might watch a few. I'm really not a competitive thing, though. 03:36 Oh? 03:36 tnnt isn't the competition? (Why would it be easier to ascend then?) 03:36 it's based on 3.6 in which master kaen is a total joke, and there's a side quest which gives guaranteed tshirt 03:37 no variant has yet the alternate ending where you dig up a level, set up shop on this level, and become the new blackmarket (YANI?) 03:37 Ah, I have 2 shirts. 03:37 also there's a pair of sinks on a no-teleport level which you can farm xlvl from succubi 03:38 Ah, I should polypile the artifact magicbane, as well. That'll destroy it. 03:38 (Hmm, but more likely to explode... Especially if cursed... Best not) 03:40 amateurhour: This game... I was probably nearly ready to ascend in terms of my inventory... And then I found a bones level that was already kitted out for ascension, hence all teh crap I have. :) 03:41 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law), 4002 points, T:9044, killed by a blast of disintegration 03:41 ah nice 03:41 Ah, I'm tied of this. Just going to do a zap... 03:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:32120 03:42 two unidentified rings!!! 03:42 goodbye conduct 03:42 :P 03:42 * arahael sheds the tiniest tear. 03:42 Weirdly, four scrolls of gold detection so far, and that's just from two piles so far... 03:43 nice, keep hold of those 03:43 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law), 30 points, T:519, killed by a jackal 03:43 also try to forget a spell at some point if you haven't already 03:44 amateurhour: Why? 03:44 I mean, why the gold detection? 03:44 you can confuse yourself on-demand with forgotten spells, and confused gold detection locates all traps/portals on the current floor 03:44 And I've already forgotten a few. Oh! Forgot to polypile a spellbook. 03:44 which makes the planes much more straightforward 03:44 Ah! Nice! 03:51 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law), 494 points, T:1640, killed by a giant ant 04:01 I think I'm going to wish for a magic marker, then charge the wand, then wish for a... scroll of enchant armour. :( 04:01 It feels insane to wish for a scroll that isn't charging. 04:01 <@riker> do you have any random junk scrolls? 04:01 <@riker> a wand of poly can work wonders 04:02 Perhaps I should do another round of poly. 04:02 Just scrolls. 04:03 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2233 04:04 or maybe a magic marker? (Depending on int/luck) 04:06 [hdf-us] [spl] findago (Dra Chn Fem Law), 968 points, T:2579, mowed down by a giant mimic 04:07 Yeah, it's not looking good. I got some more identify scrolls though, and another destroy armour, whic is always good. 04:07 Candelabrum of Invocation question: if it stops burning (after you have performed the invocation and using it as light source), is it possible to put new candles on and use it again? 04:08 yeah 04:08 there's a tnnt achievement for adding 7 extra candles after they've burnt out iirc 04:09 I never thought to take extra candles with me before... 04:09 thx! 04:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 magic markers", on T:32265 04:17 Yes. I'm going to wish for the scroll. 04:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of enchant armour", on T:32266 04:18 Q - 2 scrolls labeled PHOL ENDE WODAN. 04:18 Woohoo! 04:18 * arahael does a little dance. 04:19 I suppose the most important thing to enchant is the... Hawaiian shirt. 04:19 do you have speed boots yet? 04:20 Yes, and a spare. 04:20 also good to enchant 04:20 I think I'll enchant everything, but priorities. ;) 04:20 anything that you expect to wear for a long time 04:21 dex gloves good to enchant of course for the dex bonus 04:21 Right. I'm not certain about the helm - maybe I'll wear brilliance instead. Ooh... Actually I should do that one first? 04:21 Ah, or dex, indeed. 04:21 Shirt will wait, then! 04:22 well shirt is also fine 04:22 you won't change that for something else 04:23 I'm now thinking: Dex, then Brilliance, then shirt. 04:23 Won't worry about fooproofing until they actually get damaged. 04:23 dex gloves + helm of brilliance is very nice for spellcasters 04:23 wouldn't bother fooproofing them at all really 04:24 you miss out on what, 1 ac per item there? 04:24 amateurhour: What else would you use a scroll of destroy armour for? :) 04:24 I would blank it and write something better with a marker :P 04:24 Hmm, good point. 04:24 note you can't repair things with confused cursed destroy armour 04:25 Ok, GoD is +5 now. 04:25 mobileuser: I had forgotten about that. 04:25 In that case, I think I'll fooproof only once there's absolutely nothing I can further enchant. 04:25 * arahael is pretty pleased with +5 there. 04:26 be sure to confuse yourself first ;-) 04:26 assert dominance by enchanting your armour to +5 and then completely destroying it 04:26 amateurhour: Naturally, that'll be the freaking robe. 04:27 Hmm, this marker has :1 charge left. I should write a scroll of charging... In my excitement, I forgot about that. 04:27 * arahael takes out his spare marker. 04:29 Should I bless my armour, in general? (Particularly brilliance) 04:29 no point 04:30 blessed enchant armour will bless it for you anyway 04:30 Ah, indeed. 04:30 Ok, so that's +5 as well. 04:31 "Suddenly vibrates unexpectedly". 04:31 Shirt's now at +4. 04:34 Now, I suppose I shouldn't enchant my Cloak of MR, because the eyes will give me MR, and the robe will give me MC, so I should wait until I get that back. 04:34 AC:-18, that's reasonable. :) 04:35 Dx:21, that's reasonable too! :) 04:36 master kaen time 04:36 :P 04:36 Yep. Actually I've just realised... I should enchant my shuriken. 04:36 My rusty shuriken. 04:38 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:38 Oh, and I have a ring of slow digestion too, now. 04:44 <@Umby> And died because a leocrotta I was trying scare with the E word thought it'd be funny to corner himself and a nymph was spawned on the stairs, both occurred incredibly close to each other, and I'd just got done cleaning up my inventory after finishing Sokoban. 04:44 <@Umby> Fuck this game. 04:45 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:46 Soko is a bit nasty like that. :( 04:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:33685 04:59 \o/ 05:00 gratz 05:00 how did it go? 05:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3016 05:01 amateurhour: It was even easier than the first time(!) 05:01 tfw 05:01 Went down. Repaired fort. Waited one turn. Zapped. Done. 05:01 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:02 well here's hoping you underestimate him next time and painfully splat and get the fear of kaen burned into you for the rest of time 05:02 uh I mean, here's hoping next run goes equally as well! 05:02 :D 05:02 Well, I _did_ fail to fight him earlier, I barely escaped. 05:02 This is attempt #2. 05:02 And there's an altar to moloch here, nice. 05:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3537 05:10 * arahael thinks this quest level is a good place to leave his magicbane behind. 05:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33904 05:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3914 05:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:34786 05:26 Ugh, Juiblex. 05:26 e z 05:26 he's slow so you might be able to kill him before he engulfs you 05:26 but if he engulfs you zap digging at him 05:27 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:34803 05:27 amateurhour: I've actually found that whilst engulved, I think it's better to just cure sickness, then punch him. 05:27 amateurhour: That was how I killed him as an Xp7 monk in the other game. :) 05:28 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 05:30 I always dig if I get engufled 05:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3541 05:30 1 turn to knock its HP to 1 05:30 another turn to finish it off 05:30 usually I also heal first 05:31 it doesn't lower him to 1 hp in 3.7 aoei 05:31 it halves his current hp 05:31 :o 05:31 this change escaped my notice 05:31 thanks for the heads up 05:31 by extension splicehack also behaves that way iirc 05:31 k 05:32 aoei: Plus, I noticed that once you're engulved, you don't immediatey get sick again, though I did get sick again, but I had a few turns. 05:33 yeah i think you don't get sick again until Juiby gets a move 05:33 so you have plenty of time to act after healing 05:33 usually 05:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 4598 points, T:4108, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 05:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) stole 3819 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ennistymon's second-hand bookstore, on T:1691 05:36 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:36 aoei: Usually when I have juiblex, I have a whole pile of other demons. If I'm inside juiblex, I can focus on juiblex. :) 05:36 Do wraiths leave corpses at the castle? (I'm thinking of luring up waiths to the castle. 05:37 arahael: by usually do you mean that single event XD 05:37 aoei: Haha. (No) 05:37 I recommend taking on the demon princes/princesses one at a time if you can manage it 05:37 :P 05:37 This time I had _four_ bone devils as well, though they're not demon princes, but still, four of them. 05:38 but yeah, being engulfed can sometimes be helpful when there are other dangers outside the monster engulfing you 05:38 useful tactic 05:38 When I was Xp7, it was definitely worth punching. 05:40 Hmm, that one did not leave a corpse at the castle. 05:41 Ah, Castle is also a gravestone level. 05:41 i think Castle might count as a graveyard level for corpse-leaving purpose- yeah i was just about to say :D 05:42 Perhaps the level below? 05:43 lol are you really going to lure the wraiths all the way over to the other side? 05:43 <@microlance> its not like you have to get any more levels if your lvl 14 05:43 it's maybe worth it to get 17 for monks microlance 05:43 <@microlance> tele control? 05:43 yeah 05:43 15 for shock resist as well 05:44 wraith luring from the valley is a nightmare, but you can do stuff like levport to another level while surrounded by them 05:44 IIRC they should be ported with you 05:44 but of course if you don't already have TC you don't know where you'll end up :D 05:44 I've got TC. 05:45 that's an option to try then 05:45 try to get as many around you as possible before porting, max would of course be 8 05:45 How do I level teleport? 05:45 I'll kill most of the non-wraits for now - they're all asleep, atm. 05:45 cursed or confused scroll of teleportation 05:46 if confused there's a chance TC won't work tho 05:46 so cursed is better 05:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide gauntlets of dexterity", on T:68916 05:46 you might want a second cursed scroll to get back to the valley 05:46 or if you've not done the quest yet you could port yourself plus up to 8 wraith to the quest portal level 05:46 Hmm, I'll curse one in a moment, then. 05:46 but they might not all leave corpses 05:46 I've done the quest. 05:46 you might also want to go back and forth so imo curse all the teleport scrolls you have 05:47 unless you have >10 teleport scrolls 05:47 you might not need *that* much levport 05:47 I have... Three. 05:47 but getting around gehennom without levport is a nightmare so 05:47 arahael: ok you are gonna want more than that eventually 05:47 but for now is ok 05:47 you can try a single return trip 05:47 just curse the three of them 05:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a large shield entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2605 05:48 you can write them if you have the marker charges, but they're not super cheap to write, so finding or polypiling for them is a bit better 05:49 Hmm. 05:50 you should find plenty more, monsters often drop them 05:50 I'm reading that I could reverse genocide them. 05:51 arahael: yeah that's also an option, but revgeno is even more expensive than teleport 05:51 in terms of marker charges 05:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed mithril magic whistle", on T:68935 05:52 and you can at least do one round of wraith-lure by levport using the scrolls you already have 05:52 Interesting. 05:52 eating corpses smh my head 05:52 * aoei hands amateurhour another memequid 05:53 <@microlance> eating raw corpses straight from the floor is the way heroes eat 05:54 I think I'll clean things up, then do the telo thing, however, repeating my question: What about the level below? Or is *all* of gehennom a gravestone level? 05:54 arahael: it's not, but Asmo might be directly below you 05:54 and that might also count as graveyard 05:54