00:00 https://puu.sh/GCNzm/c50ac23d4f.png !!! 00:00 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 5152 points, T:4198, snake 00:01 Oh right, been meaning to get my options and the like set up. 00:01 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Hea Mal), 80 points, T:77, hobgoblin 00:01 is not being able to see intended? 00:03 Yeah, you're... kinda invisible? 00:03 :B 00:03 well the character knows where she is 00:03 The only indicator of your presence is the cursor blinking or highlighting you. 00:03 she when I tab out the outline helps me 00:03 I don't have blinking terminal on 00:04 dragonbane spear 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Wiz Mal), 168 points, T:302, gnome 00:05 ahh xnethack uses the unethack variant of it it seems(?) 00:05 Oh 00:07 oh it's cursed 00:07 I thought artifacts can't be cursed 00:07 lovely 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Elf Mal), 398 points, T:412, imp 00:09 They can generate cursed, lol 00:13 If found randomly, anyway 00:13 I rusted it all up~ 00:13 seems rather useless in variants 00:13 only 1d8 + 1d4 00:13 Dragons are pretty common + DSM is desirable enough to justify it 00:13 well I've already rusted it to hell and back 00:13 removing it 00:13 Then fix it 4Head 00:13 Cavemen in particular love artispears I'd think 00:13 I see a monster closet 00:13 but yeah I imagine 00:13 but I"m a valk 00:13 I have exalcibur 00:13 sadly no greysword this time 00:13 (no gift from the gods!) 00:13 Might be a decent offhand, I'd think 00:13 It's unaligned, right? 00:13 probably 00:13 it's an artifact 00:13 (also I forget the max valks can get in spears) 00:13 you can't offhand artifacts! 00:13 plus I'm using a +4 burnt sheidl 00:13 skilled 00:13 I'm thinking of another variant then. 00:13 Right, so solid backup I'd keep in case were I the one playing. 00:13 a monster closet with a cockatrice... my unicorn horn can cure it right? 00:13 What, stoning? 00:13 Naw 00:13 You need a lizard corpse 00:13 ugh better not deal with the area 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3775 00:18 Alright, at -3 AC due to cat wasting a watchman 00:19 noice 00:19 I'm at -6ac at dlvl10 doesn't feel the best 00:19 Would still like some poison res though 00:19 Psh, that's more than fine lmao 00:19 Big room aside anyway 00:19 at dlvl16 in slex I was at -20AC 00:19 ahh is that called the big room? 00:20 No, I'm mixing you up with arahael 00:21 And that's SLEX, it's... well it'd be easier to count scenario in which it *is* a reasonable metric. 00:21 But nonetheless -6 at DL10 is more than adequate. 00:21 It's the resistances I'd worry about at that point. 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 226 points, T:530, killed by a small mimic 00:22 wew giant mimic in the food shop 00:22 No wonder pet left it alone 00:22 Ganking should be trivial though, esp. with aklys in hand 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huhetotl, on T:2757 00:24 And as I say that I get winged for 31 damage trying to worm around it to an E tile 00:25 YOU TWAT 00:25 fucking cat stole my kill 00:26 whatever, not dead + can finally leash this asshole 00:26 -!- cebolla has joined #hardfought 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 367 points, T:991, killed by a kobold zombie 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 445 points, T:800, shopkeeper 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 193 points, T:866, killed by a jackal 00:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:14739 00:38 tin of dwarf... 00:38 yeah not eating that as a dwarf 00:39 Bright side is you get to eat the human soldiers you kill later 00:39 (in vanilla anyway) 00:39 Dunno if they did the 'racial monsters' thing with soldiers in xNet 00:39 ahh I can eat humans 00:39 I always avoid eating @'s even in slex 00:40 Anything's fair game as long as it's not same-race 00:40 (for cannibalism's sake anyway) 00:40 It might be that the early presence of werecreatures and such trains people away from eating @ instinctively 00:40 (though you wouldn't want to eat those for other reasons anyway) 00:41 werecreatures are obivous 00:41 and are labeled 00:41 Just speculating on what forms certain playing habits. 00:42 yeah, but I think were creatures are too labeled 00:42 (and assuming a new player would start as a humie) 00:42 in normal nethack you don't have too mnay choices 00:44 The priestess of Loki zaps herself with a balsa wand! 00:44 this message terrified me 00:48 lmao 00:49 What wand was it 00:49 It's usually speed monster or invis 00:49 no idea 00:49 probably speed 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:3468 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 618 points, T:3474, killed by an invisible dwarf king 00:52 F 00:52 I still have a throne room to deal with back in the main branch... 00:53 oh baby 2 more protection 00:53 from talking to a priest 00:53 -9ac! 00:54 Goodie. 00:55 would you say the quest is the half way point of the game? 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5008 00:57 loli: if you did castle and votd first, then yes 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2050 01:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3125 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3454 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3174 points, T:4346, killed by a water moccasin 02:12 FUCK 02:12 smoky potions are full healing in this game 02:12 really monks my S 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 404 points, T:1408, killed by a small mimic 02:15 yeah I just got the whole smoky potion healing potion experience 02:15 now I'm wondering if I should wish for a figurine of an archon 02:15 Playing pacifist? 02:15 cause I haven't even killed a monster yet, it's like turn 27 02:16 I could 02:16 Oh lul 02:16 A wish that early? 02:16 I was quaffing the potions healer starts with to increase my max hp 02:16 You're making the start scummers jealous. 02:16 honestly I just shouldn't, it's total hubris 02:17 Ever tried going pacifist before? 02:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "+2 Blessed greased fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:38 02:18 Oh lul 02:19 I mean that's a valid thing you can do to increase your HP at the start 02:22 !rng walk | coffee first 02:22 aoei: coffee first 02:22 very good, Beholder, right you are 02:23 Andrio: Yeah I have tried it a few times and I have found I am very good at killing geckos 02:23 mm 02:24 I can consistently get to minetown as pacifist if I try, so I'm gonna give that a go and if I get it and another wish there, I'll go for it 02:24 neko-chan: I think most of the hardcore paci players do some key remapping hacks using screen, so any movement key is remapped to m-move 02:24 Umbire: I meant the archon is hubris, not the potions. Quaffing the potions at the start is good imho, especially if you are doing protection racket 02:25 Ohlul 02:25 aoei: yeah I just made a layer for my keybaord lol 02:25 neko-chan: a layer? 02:25 (I've had 24 HP on a level 1 healer that way) 02:25 I mean nothing wrong with a powerful pet early in the game if you can keep track of them well 02:25 But ideally you want to ensure your own survival more directly, yeah 02:26 * aoei doesn't have the patience for pacifist games really 02:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:16130 02:26 aoei: as in, I flashed my keyboard with another profile so when I press a key it makes my movement keys all get appended with m 02:26 woo! go elenmirie 02:26 neko-chan: you can flash your keyboard with custom shit? :o 02:26 what sourcery is this!? 02:26 yeah I do the nerd mechanical keyboard thing 02:26 that's baller af tho :> 02:27 it IS actually, you'd love my keyboard too 02:27 it's very cute lmao 02:27 pics or it doesn't exist 02:27 my keyboard is shit. it has the soft bubbly things and it's attached to my laptop 02:27 I'm sleepy and playing nethack before bed, but I'll send you a pic later. It's like 1am 02:27 also, sometimes it randomly sends the OS a constant stream of whatever letter i typed last 02:28 oh gosh yeah you probably spend a lot of time writing, don't you? 02:28 and I have to hit the off switch 02:28 can't doanything else 02:28 neko-chan: i spend a lot of time what? 02:28 it's pretty satisfying to type on a mechanical keyboard 02:28 A cursed keyboard of fumbling 02:28 like writing on a keyboard, using a keyboard for input 02:28 neko-chan: i mean im on IRC a lot and I occasionally program, so I guess yeah? 02:28 I had a more satisfying one at my office when I was writing up my thesis 02:29 it wasn't actually mechanical but still more clacky and satisfying to type on somehow 02:32 neko-chan: but how did you know I use keyboards a lot :O 02:32 are you spying on me 02:33 Great, took four hits with a mace and died 02:33 Actually stupid death 02:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 378 points, T:2433, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 02:43 bleh should have just dropped the scrolls 02:43 :( 02:44 F 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 159 points, T:248, killed by a gnome lord 02:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 372 points, T:531, killed by a fox 02:50 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 744 points, T:558, orc 03:00 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 158 points, T:109, imp 03:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 664 points, T:2110, killed by a little dog 03:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una) had a war hammer entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:18729 03:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:18784 03:10 elenmirie: gogogo 03:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:10 ascension when? 03:10 :D 03:10 Secespita, nice!!! 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 1151 points, T:1230, demon 03:14 Night, guys, gonna resume my hdf game tomorrow, hopefully see what this Minetown has to offer 03:14 (and hopefully stop splatting my phone runs...) 03:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:17 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 636 points, T:760, orc 03:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1974 03:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Wanderer, on T:2144 03:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una) had an apron entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:18832 03:24 hm 03:24 um, thanks? 03:24 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 03:25 gee nice one Moloch 03:26 he's clearing out his junk drawer 03:27 some nice acid resistance at least 03:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:3271 03:32 yeah, but I already have Dragonbane 03:32 ah 03:32 Moloch >:( 03:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2710 points, T:4095, killed by a watchman, while sleeping 03:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 226 points, T:603, killed by Ms. Tirebolu; the shopkeeper 03:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20285 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 258 points, T:1301, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 576 points, T:1428, killed by a sewer rat 04:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1392 points, T:1923, killed by a killer bee 04:08 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7547 04:17 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Sal Fem Cha), 1542 points, T:2063, killed by a dwarf 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2544 04:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2432 points, T:1850, killed by a giant spider 04:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una) had a bone orcish dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:21642 04:24 Moloch is pretty metal, he just ripped out an orc's rib and sent it to you 04:25 lol, yeah 04:26 ooh, it's a frost dagger 04:38 Sounds about right.~ 04:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a steel battle-axe entrusted to her by Crom, on T:62992 04:49 Yeah, I'm giving up on Dragonbane now 04:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 909 points, T:1923, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted plains centaur 04:50 dex gloves might be better generally anyway 04:54 would have been nice to be able to switch depending on the situation 04:56 very true 05:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shinjunkie (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1525 05:14 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby green dragon, on T:8545 05:16 Every Freaking Game. 05:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8619 05:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] shinjunkie (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 423 points, T:2832, killed by an electric shock 05:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:22862 05:32 [hdf-au] [nh343] PeachMuffin (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 508 points, T:1937, killed by a brown mold 05:33 losing your robe you mean arahael? yeah :P 05:33 amateurhour: Again, yes. Every time! 05:33 master kaen will probably have a replacement for you though, so no worries 05:34 * arahael mutters 05:34 amateurhour: I'd have to sneak past all the brothers all nude. 05:34 hah 05:35 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 05:37 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39 -!- unsound_ has joined #hardfought 05:40 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:41 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 05:41 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:42 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:43 * arahael wonders if flesh golems are edible. 05:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] shinjunkie (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 300 points, T:746, killed by a gnomish wizard 05:44 they are 05:44 provide shock resistance iirc 05:44 -!- cebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:44 and _stuff_ you 05:44 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:44 Nice. Not this time. 05:44 @v? flesh golem 05:44 na, stenno 05:44 eating meat as a monk 05:44 wie geht's? 05:45 angery 05:45 aoei: arbeit arbeit 05:46 amateurhour: I've never really understood the big deal. :) 05:46 stenno: F 05:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] shinjunkie (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:146, killed by a falling rock 05:46 you don't need to eat corpses to get intrinsics really 05:47 well depends 05:47 and vegan food is plentiful, so monks are easiest to get vegan conduct for 05:47 some roles might want to eat gcubes and jellies and such 05:47 Some are good, and it's nice to get them "early". 05:47 ah yeah as monk you don't need to eat corpses lol 05:47 you can get them from red and blue molds early if you're worried about that 05:48 the molds are pretty low prob, but it doesn't hurt to eat them 05:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a wooden axe entrusted to her by Crom, on T:64372 05:48 but honestly like amateurhour says just get 'em by levelling if you're a monk 05:48 lol I wasn't altar camping there really 05:49 my altar camping degeneracy meter is going nuts, get the pitchforks! 05:49 * amateurhour starts handing out torches and pitchforks 05:49 Does it really matter, though? 05:49 amateurhour: !! :o 05:50 amateurhour: have the degens been altar camping too long again?? 05:50 I'm afraid so aoei, there appears to be a severe case of it occurring before our very eyes 05:50 let's go stomp on these degens! 05:51 you clumsy kick is ineffectual 05:51 *your 05:51 :< 05:51 * aoei stabs mobileuser with a pitchfork 05:51 when I am king I will outlaw it, punishment shall be ascending slex before being allowed to visit an altar again 05:51 amateurhour: dang, that's brutal 05:52 right gonna go make burritos 05:52 for tasty yummy lunch 05:52 in slex altars just disappear don't they? 05:55 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:11600 05:57 yeah every interaction with them has a chance of removing them 05:57 each item dropped on it for example 05:59 What's "altar camping"? 05:59 it's not really seen as degenerate or anything, I'm just exaggerating 06:00 it's where you stick around at an altar and sacrifice loads of things 06:00 to get gifts from your deity to help you win the game 06:00 Sounds painful. 06:00 Best i ever got was... Sunsword. 06:01 amateurhour: imo it becomes degenerate as soon as you run out of create mon sources 06:01 in evilhack you get more nice things than in vanilla 06:01 if you just while away turns like waiting for monsters 06:01 it's really boring to me, I'm too impatient to do grindy things, but I also throw games away a lot so I can hardly judge 06:01 *that's* degenerate 06:01 (and also boring) 06:01 zapping wands or reading scrolls of create monster is allowed, by my personal rules 06:02 aoei not always true, if you have a quest altar there is steady supply of easy sacs 06:02 ditto spell, until you run out of Pw 06:02 sudo -u apache crontab -e 06:02 nope 06:02 mobileuser: hmmm, rarely done that in practice but I can see how that might muddy the waters for some roles 06:02 just exaggerating my hatred of it for a minor joke, I don't really think badly of people doing it just in case that wasn't 100% clear 06:02 hah 06:02 :b 06:03 not doing it as a wizard for example doesn't make a whole lot of sense 06:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12461 06:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] shinjunkie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:4044 06:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 181 points, T:93, fell into a pit 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] shinjunkie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:5445 06:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shinjunkie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7217 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 254 points, T:632, killed by an electric shock 06:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Magician, on T:13594 06:42 Raisse has a *tshirt*!!! 06:45 nice 06:45 don't lose it to a polytrap :P 06:45 what's it say? 06:46 amateurhour: Ha. 06:46 Hmm... Magicbane. Useless, for a monk. :( 06:46 Can I put artifacts into a BoH? 06:46 can't remember if putting magicbane in is dangerous now 06:47 it is in evil 06:47 because there's a small chance that it will cancel 06:47 I'm not sure if that's in vanilla or not 06:48 doesn't look like it 06:48 generally, putting artifacts in a BoH is not dangerous (if they'll go) but Magicbane is a special case 06:48 in some variants 06:48 Why is magicbane a special case (in some variants)? 06:48 can it explode the boh or something? 06:48 due to its magic-cancelling effects 06:49 because it has a cancel attack, so some have implemented this as a small chance of acting like a wand of cancellation 06:49 Hmm. Raisse has an amulet, and a BoH, that's too heavy for me to lift WITH my BoH. I'll bet it's full. 06:49 elenmirie: Wow. 06:49 i have a feeling it's something like that but I don't remember for sure or which variants that'd be in 06:49 I can't lift Raisse's BoH even without my own BoH! 06:49 I *think* it was introduced in evil, but I'm not sure 06:49 arahael: it's cursed 06:49 doubles the weight 06:50 yeah standard bones BoH 06:50 clear the rest of the pile and zap cancellation down on it if you want to uncurse the BoH without cancelling other items 06:51 also, looting it while cursed has risk of making some contents disappear 06:51 yeah so best to uncurse it first 06:51 but if you can't pick it up you can't #dip, so often the only way is a cancellation wand or spell 06:52 Yeah, I have neither of that, so I'm - unfrotunately - just looting it. Yanking as much as possible out. 06:52 It also has two "grey stones". 06:52 just leave it for later imo 06:53 Yeah, actually probably sensible. 06:54 Ooh, nice, the tshirt is uncursed. 06:57 read it and let us know what it says :P 06:58 I'm _sure_ you're joking. 06:59 arahael: one way to find out 07:00 "That is a silly thing to read". 07:00 aw 07:00 is it a t-shirt or a hawaiian shirt? 07:00 i thought maybe you actually could 07:00 The latter, actually. 07:00 ah that's why then 07:00 ^ 07:01 Well, I have a wand of death, with two charges. I might possibly be able to kill Master Kaen. 07:01 :o 07:01 oh, yeah, hawaiian shirts can't be read, they only have loud patterns 07:02 Unfortunately I still don't have enchant armour. 07:04 Is it best to increase your max HP earlier, or later, in the game? 07:04 (I mean, blessing and quaffing potions of healing) 07:04 Extra healing, rather. 07:05 i can't think of any real disadvantage to doing it sooner 07:05 and the sooner you do it, the sooner you benefit 07:05 Im thinking the same thing, but I was wondering if it influences the HP gain you get when you go up in Xp. 07:06 nah im p sure that's just based on your Con and has nothing to do with your current maxhp 07:06 maxing out Con before gaining any XL *is* valuable for this reason 07:07 but outside of prot racket healers or full pacifist run, nobody really does this 07:07 Nice - I've quaffed my potions of gain ability. (blessed) 07:08 my goodness how do you keep getting wands of death 07:08 you're gonna think master kaen is trivial every time 07:08 amateurhour: Easily? They're generally pretty common. Wands of digging, on the other hand... Those are rarer in my experience. ;) 07:09 I just 07:09 why 07:09 I mean I'm obviously glad you're getting useful items lol 07:09 Heh. 07:09 Extremely useful items. 07:09 yeah wands of death aren't really that common, in most people's experience XD 07:10 and yet arahael gets on average 1 every game that gets past soko 07:10 and, I'm fairly certain, in terms of absolute pre-determined "probability of generation" 07:10 amateurhour: wat 07:10 no fair XD 07:10 aoei: He's right. It's weird, honestly. 07:10 it is 07:10 I normally get mine from Orcus 07:10 yes, they even said 'master kaen is trivial' during one such game 07:10 :D 07:10 not having one until you meet and kill Orcus is pretty much par for the course 07:10 aoei: So far, I'd have *two* before I get to Orcus. ;) 07:10 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 07:11 arahael: for this game you mean? :o 07:11 It's one big reason I'm so antsy about getting reflection. WantWantWant reflection. Thanks to Raisse here, I finally have it! 07:11 aoei: I haven't met Orcus yet. 07:11 (Not in this game) 07:11 what reflection source did you get, amulet? 07:11 arahael: but you have 2 death wands already this game? 07:11 amateurhour: Yep. 07:11 aoei: No, in the other game I had 2. 07:12 ah right 07:12 aoei: In that famous game. 07:12 the game with the amazing #hardfought irc logs 07:12 Yes. 07:12