00:04 The prostitue takes 2178 zorkmids for services rendered! 00:04 god damnit 00:04 lol 00:04 slex? 00:05 yeah 00:05 What else could it be 00:05 :D 00:10 Alright, so no tell-tale "scritch, scritch" 00:10 Probably water-walking boots 00:10 @{Demo} 00:12 -!- k-man has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:20 !tell antigulp I though shadowspun items were supposed to be far lighter than normal? I made shadowspun plate mail and it just weighs the normal amount 00:20 I'm on it, Neko-chan. 00:29 Maybe when it ran code to change the material it didn't recheck the weight? 00:31 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 00:32 oh maybe it will check the weight again if I put in in a bag of holding 00:32 idk how it even stores that but it makes sense I think 00:34 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 00:34 Okay, so that didn't work but you can tell there is something weird going on cause when I put in in the boh my total held weight goes down by like, 500 00:35 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:35 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 00:36 huh weird 00:37 -!- unsound_ has joined #hardfought 00:37 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:38 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:39 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 00:39 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:41 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 00:41 -!- k-man has joined #hardfought 00:41 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:42 -!- unsound_ has joined #hardfought 00:42 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:43 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 00:43 -!- Menchers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:45 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 00:45 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:46 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 00:47 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:47 Sick, vault on fl3 by downstair, shop on fl4 00:47 -!- unsound_ has joined #hardfought 00:48 Hell yeah, full ID off a 27zm scroll 00:48 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:48 glad I picked up everything else 00:49 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 00:49 blessed healing, blessed gain energy, couple of solid spellbooks and some scrolls 00:49 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:49 only "dud" is the cursed enchant weapon and that's still a valuable ID 00:50 If only it didn't cost twice what I have on me lol 00:51 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:51 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 00:52 time to finally make holy water 00:52 -!- unsound_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:54 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:58 Oh sick I had a blessed potion of see invis on me 00:58 I never have to worry about the intrinsic again 01:05 Piss, my boots were just elf boots 01:05 Hey, those are useful. 01:05 I'm an Arc. 01:06 Not so much for you then 01:08 Is there any point nethack would normally recalculate the weight of an object? I feel like this might never come up in vanilla so it might have basically no handling? 01:09 Maybe if I trigger some kind of error handling? Like put the boh on another floor with the armor in it, then try to pick up a bunch of objects until it's not storing otmp anymore? 01:10 what I died 01:10 did I miss some text? 01:10 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Gla Esp Fem Cha), 151563 points, T:16448,  01:10 aaaaaaaaaaa 01:10 god damnit 01:10 #lastgame 01:10 !lastgame 01:10 loli: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/slex/dumplog/1602437773.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gargor/nethack/dumplog/1602464661.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1602414072.nh.html 01:11 !lastgame doloI was playing too fast 01:11 loli: No last game for (doloI,was). 01:11 I was playing too fast* 01:11 I didn't realize I was becoming a slime until it was too late 01:11 Dead to sliming, F 01:11 such a great run too 01:12 for whatever that is worth in slex 01:12 Neko-chan, a few cases, such as when the object is created, when a stack is split or merged, when the contents of a container change, when the beatitude of a bag of holding changes 01:12 -20AC by dlvl16 is fairly decent? 01:12 -24* 01:13 btw this is why I like the curses interface better Umbire 01:13 it'll flash yellow when I'm turning into slime 01:13 instead of letting me just mash through thoings 01:13 Curses is good 01:13 in slex it's a bit broken, also it has a habit of changing terminal colors 01:14 Andrio: hmmm maybe if I change the buc of the bag, but I think the fact that this happens is why it stores the object's weight somewhere else 01:15 what happened? 01:17 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 01:17 so I'm playing splicehack, and there is a monster that when you hit it, changes the material of an object 01:18 splicehack has an object materials system, with a new one added, called 'shadowspon' 01:18 *spun 01:18 and it's supposed to be extremely light 01:18 I turned plate mail into that material, and it still weighs ~500 or whatever 01:18 but when I put it in the bag of holding, it weighs the shadowspun amount 01:19 Probably a bug from a material changing while you wore the object? 01:19 * Umbire shrugs 01:19 which is 1 01:20 The first instinct is to assume it was the material changing not checking the weight again, which makes sense and that's where I'm still at, but I feel that the boh dropping the weight is proof enough that I just need it to consider itself a new object 01:20 I might be better off just trying to polypile for this stuff in the future though 01:20 Hm 01:20 in other news, my dog snuck out the scroll of stinking cloud I was forced to drop when figuring out what to prioritize buying 01:21 ultimately just down a couple food rations and the vault cash in return for all that stuff 01:22 also I think I didn't mash through it, I only see you hit the colgiant! and then a count down besides defending armor 01:22 defending with my armor* 01:23 I'm guessing I got stunned somehow, and lost 11 turns worth of escaping slime? 01:25 gimme a sec 01:26 Did you have intrinsic speed or something 01:26 I think I had normal speed 01:26 Fuck me running this log is longer than most slex games 01:27 Can you check via TTY? 01:27 I only have stuff after a spill giant corpse being picked up 01:27 well i didn't log out, and the tty player I have is limited 01:27 yes, that means I didn't press anything right? 01:27 I could have ran, but it seems unlikely 01:27 probably me just running 01:29 https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/blob/fdeef6c222637246a87c649b0fc059aec3e6de13/src/mkobj.c#L1525 so I just need to get this function called on the armor somehow 01:32 https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/blob/fdeef6c222637246a87c649b0fc059aec3e6de13/src/mkobj.c#L3441 and here is where the material is actually changed, the weight isn't updated, which is a bug 01:32 a least I presume it's a bug lol, maybe it's balancing 01:32 Might've been you running probably 01:33 1.1MB tty 01:37 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:47 yeah I see 01:47 (I'm using a buggy tty client) 01:47 I had 15 turns to live after killing a slime(I didn't realize it was a slime) 01:47 I kill some giants then proceed to leave 01:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:49 I should put on a warning for that kind of thing, often I find combat becomes tedious when 10 messages appear before me 01:58 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:06 That's how they get ya, Dolores 02:06 what do you do to speed up combat text? I find with a curses interface I miss less, since I have 4 lines to read instead of 1(?) 02:11 I play on mobile primarily so text is usually instantaneous 02:11 Saves me multiple taps but I keep an eye out between messages and ^P whenever I can to be sure 02:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:44970 02:48 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 02:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:00 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Elf-Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1935 03:04 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Elf-Ran Elf Mal Cha) was given Tobiume, on T:2732 03:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pevsand (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 870 points, T:3250, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 03:06 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:12 Well, a chameleon pet was... Fun while it lasted. 03:13 Killed a shopkeeper. Failed to kill a guard. 03:19 Chamleon' arent very good pets 03:19 but like 03:19 fun and accessible 03:19 cause they change into easy to tame things 03:19 just hard to make a strategy around them 03:22 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 03:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:27 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:12494 03:27 Neko-chan: Yep, was fun while it lasted. :) 03:34 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:43 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Elf-Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Kroo the Kobold King, on T:7338 03:45 how's the games going now arahael? 03:45 amateurhour: Good, but just got into a spot. Ice Troll being far more dangerious than I expected. 03:45 amateurhour: So very good timing you asking me! ;) 03:46 I'm "fast" ,but this troll appears to be "faster". 03:46 yeah they have speed 10 I think 03:47 Oh, it's a rock troll. 03:47 oh even worse 03:48 And it drank a cloudy potion - seems to be speed. 03:48 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:48 got a tele wand? worth running away for a breather 03:48 Yeah, I do. Actually I pray'ed, but I'm also satiated, so I'm thinking of zapping the troll. 03:49 Because even if I kill it, I wouldn't be able to eat it. 03:49 > eating meat 03:49 :P 03:54 Ha. 03:57 Hmm, Trolls are mindless? 03:57 I can't see the rock troll. 03:57 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 34468 points, T:9140, killed by a pit viper 03:57 (Using floating-e telepathy) 03:58 Perhaps it's a newt now? 03:58 Ah, polymorph. Just became a new man. 03:58 (Lucky) 03:59 still got your robe/ 03:59 Yep. 03:59 No reflection, MR or MC, though. :( 03:59 how far are you through now? nearly at doing the quest? 03:59 Makes mines end a bit dangerious but. 04:00 I'm at mines end, Xp 9. 04:00 you have MC 2 04:00 from the robe 04:00 Ah - awesome. 04:00 I wouldn't usually have MR/reflection by mine's end lol, don't worry about it 04:01 :) 04:01 I"ve done soko, though - no reflection. 04:01 It was a BoH level. 04:01 when you say a boh level, do you mean you got the reward and it was a boh 04:02 Yep 04:02 or do you mean you saw which soko puzzle it was and assumed it was a boh 04:02 ah right fair enough 04:02 Ah - no, I actually got the BoH. 04:02 in earlier versions the puzzle you got did tell you which reward it was 04:02 that's why I had to check, just in case 04:03 Which isn't blessed yet - struggling to get the water and now to bless it - I've annoyed the minetown guards as it is. 04:03 And fair enough, I might've made the same assumptions. 04:03 either reward is good for you, so no worries 04:04 the game can be almost unplayable without a boh imo... I hate making stashes 04:04 Indeed, the BoH is also practically essential. 04:04 But I do prefer reflection. 04:07 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:07 Oh, shit. This is getting too dangerious! I have to leave the luckstone. :( 04:07 Nymph stole my wand of death... 04:09 (0:7), too. 04:11 oh you have another wand of death 04:11 how do you get this lucky lol 04:11 was getting ready for you to find out how difficult master kaen is 04:11 The nymph teleported next to me, in another spot. :( 04:12 Oh, I've faught master kaen in that amazing game before. With a wand of death and earth, it's easy. 04:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 32996 points, T:14749, killed by a death ray 04:12 Well, that's frustrating. 04:13 It zap'ed me, missed, bounced, and the bounce hit me. 04:16 If only I had reflection! 04:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2419 04:25 lol 04:25 well now maybe you'll get to experience master kaen without a death wand this time! 04:25 :P 04:26 Haha. 04:27 That's crazy talk. :) 04:34 Hmm, I hope this one becomes the game. WIthin the first two levels, there's shops, altars, fountains... 04:40 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:45449 04:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:3678 04:50 Got bit by team ant - some of those bite *hard*. 04:50 Survived, though. #pray is awesome. 04:53 -!- tromix has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:53 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3301 05:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3905 05:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3905 05:16 Oh, darn it all! I accidentally rubbed a blessed lamp :D 05:16 Before soko! 05:17 * arahael wishes for an "oR, given that he already has a BoH... 05:22 getting a lot of lucky starts lol 05:23 :D Always hard to commit to a wish, though 05:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed amulet of reflection", on T:4252 05:40 the november nethack tournament is only a few weeks away, wooo 05:43 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 05:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Crom, on T:46560 06:12 [hdf-au] [slex] PeachMuffin (Con Dra Mal Cha), 809 points, T:2423, killed by a monster (watch captain), while sleeping 06:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a dwarvish short sword entrusted to her by Crom, on T:47330 06:14 wtf Crom 06:15 Haha. 06:16 patience is the name of this altar camping game :-) 06:17 What're you after? 06:19 Dragonbane, in evilhack they are gloves that give reflection and acid res 06:20 altar camping = degeneracy 06:20 dont @ me 06:20 :^) 06:20 lol 06:21 shame dragonbane is pretty much required as a giant though 06:21 even as a monk, they don't get acid res and it's suddenly mega important 06:23 Still defeated the ice queen without dragonbane, it's not 100% necessary 06:23 don't the nastier demons in gehennom spam it? 06:24 acid attacks are dangerous, but giants do get lots of HP and regeneration, so could take the risk 06:25 at least I an not a fool because I have P'HUL :b 06:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:16788 06:26 did you get bheleu out of interest? can't remember if you said you would get it 06:27 no early wish, so no... 06:28 If I can get the castle wand I am thinking of wishing for silver two-handed sword of decay 06:28 that sounds dope 06:29 don't think weapons can have decay tho 06:29 ah... 06:30 maybe venom? 06:30 or cold 06:31 does 1d2 + 10% chance of an additional 6-15 of extra poison damage, has a 10% chance to poison instakill 06:32 guessing most gehennom and endgame monsters are immune to that instakill 06:32 yeah, against demons extra cold damage is better 06:33 maybe some soldier at the castle has a shield or something of decay... 06:33 to use for vlad 06:34 what helm and boots are you using? 06:35 helm of speed and I want jumping boots 06:37 hopefully a balrog will have angelslayer, barbarian can get to skilled with trident 06:37 maybe two silver 2h of fire and ice? :^) 06:38 oh angelslayer doesn't have a wiki entry yet 06:39 Angelslayer - an artifact trident that warns of angels, confers searching and half-spell damage, and has a fire-based attack. Not a true bane weapon, but angels are susceptible to fire and having half-spell damage helps against their magic missile attack. 06:42 Lesser liches are also susceptible to fire. 06:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17977 06:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law), 33944 points, T:18067, killed by a troll, while unconscious from rotten food 07:00 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 07:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:48326 07:04 :o 07:04 ascension later? 07:05 lol 07:05 aiming for dragonbane, at least that's another artifact out of the way 07:06 do you ever get bored of sacfests 07:07 That time I was trying to get every spell in the game in last year's TNNT, yeah 07:07 Then your god starts giving you blank books. 07:10 that sounds even more boring that normal sacfests 07:10 than* 07:13 I don't really like grinding, which is probs why I die so much lol 07:15 <@microlance> you shouldnt be getting wishing for silver two handed swords, silver tsurugis is where its at. 07:17 oh snap, nice 07:18 Not two silver one-handed swords? 07:18 Giant can wield two-handed in one hand 07:18 <@microlance> if your a giant you can one hand two handed weapons 07:19 Ah, nice 07:19 But can you dual-wield them? 07:20 yeah 07:21 wow, super damage for tsurugi! 07:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:69386 07:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 grayswandir", on T:5432 07:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) destroyed Uruwi's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:5528 07:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6064 07:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6065 07:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1256 07:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:6207 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1095 points, T:1320, killed by a magic missile 07:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 113 points, T:383, killed by a water moccasin 07:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 18168 points, T:7126, killed by an energy vortex 07:43 they're nasty 07:43 Death by going down too fast - my AC was higher than usual so I got overconfident. 07:43 I was in mines end with only HP 56. 07:44 And mines end was dark. I should've lit it up. 07:44 energy vortices are just plain nasty though 07:44 Indeed. 07:45 I never ended up needing that "oR in that game. :( 07:45 can't remember, have you tried the other roles? 07:45 Sometimes I do, but I find monks just soooo much fun! :) 07:47 Perhaps I should try something that lets me wear armour. But I like to be able to bash everything. 07:48 maybe bash all the things with a sword 07:48 samurai maybe? 07:49 Sure. Hmm. Will think about it next time. I'd probably do random if I don't do monk. 07:49 'Night! 07:51 sleep well! 07:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:8382 07:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:8581 07:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:8803 07:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2392 08:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:9150 08:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a copper long sword entrusted to her by Crom, on T:48621 08:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:10896 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4080 points, T:4091, killed by a jaguar 08:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:48972 08:19 morning 08:20 * K2 creates a new artifact weapon, called 'Boop' 08:20 everytime you land a hit, it goes 'boop' 08:22 unaligned? 08:22 sure 08:22 yessss 08:22 altar camping for Boop 08:22 hah 08:26 hi k2 did you recover my grunt game? 08:26 hothraxxa: Message from K2 at 2020-10-11 17:41 EDT: grunthack game recovered 08:26 oh 08:26 thanks 08:26 o/ 08:27 now let's see how far back it put me 08:27 fuck. 08:27 crashed again 08:27 get out of curses mode before reloading 08:28 the backtrace i saw, looks like its curses related 08:28 game recovered 08:28 ok let's try that. i don't want to have to redo the whole quest 08:29 "You crush the the ogre's skull!" Hah 08:29 Ogresmasher 08:29 nooooo 08:29 not double THE 08:29 yup 08:29 gdammit 08:29 mobileuser, how many time si gotta tell ya... there are no bugs if you dont find any 08:29 :P 08:29 si! :-) 08:30 C 08:30 that's working. when do you think it'll be safe to go back to curses? 08:30 i see it mobileuser 08:30 super easy fix 08:31 at least i'm past the point where i found the wand of death 08:31 hothraxxa no clue, i havent touched grunthack code in a long while. other than a security patch right before junethack this year 08:31 * hothraxxa found trollsbane in the castle, makes the barb quest a lot easier 08:32 plus curses has always been Tangles' thing 08:32 ok. i'll finish the quest in tty mode then save and try curses again 08:32 i've never messed with curses directly 08:32 :/ 08:32 i should save more often in case of a crash reset back to the last save 08:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:12680 08:33 or just dont play in curses mode 08:37 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:39338 08:37 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:39341 08:37 not playing in curses mode is hell 08:38 --more-- 08:39 * K2 rarely plays in curses mode 08:39 i like my regular tty 08:39 I'd find it hard to go back to one message line now 08:39 ^^^ 08:40 it is nice seeing your inventory all the time tho 08:40 ^^^ 08:41 forever hitting ? to see what inventory letter that thing was 08:41 YOU JUST PICKED IT UP YOU IDIOT 08:41 * hothraxxa is old 08:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:49451 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Archer, on T:23939 08:50 hothraxxa: the older you are, the more forgetful you get 08:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Mal Neu), 175945 points, T:13600, burned by molten lava 08:50 <@microlance> lava castle reee 08:50 that's why unnethack has now naming for the last picked up typ and and a drop filter for most recently picked up items 08:54 damn @microlance 08:56 <@microlance> i couldnt find the chest with the wand 😦 and then i got stupid and picked up my sack and got burdened and failed my jumping 09:02 k2: crashed again :( 09:03 bhaak: i am 73 and 1/4 going on 74 09:05 * hothraxxa claims most if not all oldest-to-ascend trophies 09:07 ugh 09:07 game restored 09:08 <{Demo}> which variant is crashing? 09:08 i wonder where i am this time 09:08 grunt 09:08 <{Demo}> oh hmm 09:08 <{Demo}> is it the same crash each time? 09:08 no 09:09 latest crash - https://termbin.com/3za2z 09:09 <{Demo}> oh thats funny 09:10 <{Demo}> it assumes makemon succeeds 09:10 <{Demo}> just need an if(mon) check after the makemon call https://github.com/tsadok/GruntHack/blob/master/src/makemon.c#L147 09:10 thank u demo 4 volunteering to be the gh maintainer 09:10 based 09:11 https://bilious.alt.org/?432 09:11 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:39256 09:12 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:39257 09:12 looks like this patch would fix them 09:12 <{Demo}> wonder if those r fixed in dnh, probably? 09:12 <{Demo}> i've been wanting to write a thing that tries to find all instances of calling makemon, storing it, and reading/writing it without checking it isn't null first 09:13 getting tired of killing that bugger 09:14 so i tried to save 09:14 monster glyph at (12, 2) with no monster Program in disorder - perhaps you'd better #save or #quit. 09:14 {Demo}: just grep for all instances of makemon. there are not that many. I did that after the game crashed when I made it return only dragons for debugging purposes and the above patch was all that came from it. 09:14 <{Demo}> I don't mean in vanilla 09:14 <{Demo}> I mean something i can shitspam across variants 09:15 <{Demo}> and find plenty of bugs 09:15 lol 09:15 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 368710 points, T:39267, a trickery 09:15 oh shit 09:15 possibly all 3.4 based variants that don't have the patches from unnethack or NAO 09:15 RIP 09:15 <{Demo}> ah, it made it into nao, nice 09:15 that looks really bad 09:15 <{Demo}> so its fine in dnh then 09:16 <{Demo}> hothraxxa 2 be fair trickery caused by the player is impossible on the server 09:16 <{Demo}> so it doesnt look bad for you 09:16 no i mean recovery might not help 09:16 <{Demo}> oh 09:16 <{Demo}> hope he has a backup 09:16 <{Demo}> should probably ping him 09:17 he will but it will probably reset my game wayyyy back 09:17 <{Demo}> :( 09:17 k2: nasty crash when i tried saving 09:18 <{Demo}> is trickery livelog broken? should it really use the "a" article? 09:18 ugh 09:18 <{Demo}> when was the last time trickery code got triggered on the server? 09:19 i dunno 09:19 <{Demo}> ah its happened to hoth b4 09:19 i lost a junnethack game a while back due to a trickery crash 09:19 <{Demo}> oh wow also has happened in un 09:19 i think it was junethack 09:20 hothraxxa try game now 09:20 ok thanks 09:20 are you still trying to play in curses mode? 09:20 ok i'm going upstairs this time and saving 09:20 no 09:20 ok 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha) averted death, on T:36788 09:20 dammit. can't go upstairs 09:20 why? 09:21 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 366265 points, T:39229, a trickery 09:21 shit 09:21 something about file removed 09:21 yup 09:21 <{Demo}> hey that doesnt look like so old a save though 09:21 lemme go back to an older save 09:21 it wasnt 09:21 <{Demo}> looks like the level files died? 09:21 thing is i play long sessions between saves :( 09:21 can you levelport? 09:21 i can 09:22 i expect all the files are gone though 09:22 ok hothraxxa game is recovered, but its from the time before 09:22 well i know nothing really, maybe not 09:22 not looking forward to this because i bet i don't have my wand of death anymore 09:23 yup :( 09:23 oh well at least i know what it loks like 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 14104 points, T:8883, killed by a giant zombie 09:23 I wonder if whatever causes that in gh is the same as the rare case in dnh 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24259 09:24 i shall save frequently and hope for the best 09:24 I couldn't find any fixes for such a thing in vanilla's git log, but I might be blind af 09:24 <{Demo}> the grunthack on the server is this one? https://github.com/k21971/GruntHack/ 09:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1355 points, T:1063, killed by a giant ant 09:24 have to redo the whole quest this time 09:25 K2 is it the one from your repo or is it the one from Tangles' repo? 09:26 oh it's gotta be K2's one as it looks like Tangles' one with some extra stuff 09:26 Tangles repo 09:27 https://github.com/NHTangles/GruntHack/tree/grunthack-dgl 09:27 ^ one being used 09:28 <{Demo}> cool 09:28 <{Demo}> man, i love what has been done to grunthack 09:29 <{Demo}> just like lol looks like sgrunt isnt here to defend it so its time for changes :) and grunthack deserves it for being so brutal and mean 09:30 <{Demo}> dont think i actually have time this morning but i think i wanna slap the fuzzer on it at some point 09:31 that would be cool 09:31 ^ 09:31 K2: what was the issue that made you revert "Optimized placement of menu windows in TTY port."? 09:32 i dont remember the details, but the game would crash 09:33 well, that's an issue :-) 09:33 i know 09:33 it wasnt crashing with 343-hdf 09:33 it could be other grunthack issues 09:34 honestly i didnt look to closely, i just figured i'd revert as junethack was coming up fast at that time 09:35 shit i don't have my ring of free action either :( 09:35 i reall should save more often 09:35 it's a pretty simple patch, unless grunthack is already fucking around with window placement. I remember something about COLNO not being set but I thought that was unnethack specific 09:40 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had a runesword bestowed upon her by Set, on T:37797 09:52 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 554401 points, T:37977, killed by a purple worm 09:55 {Demo} is correct about grunt crashing becuase makemon() is not checked for success. 09:55 (gdb) print mon 09:55 $1 = (struct monst *) 0x0 09:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given the Grandmaster's Robe, on T:6760 09:55 but we all knew that 09:56 I can't defend the other crashes being caused by 'curses' because no evidence exists that they happened. 09:57 I think the crash dump gets overwritten each time there's a crash 09:57 it does 09:57 i saw it and didnt save the output :( 09:57 i normally do 09:58 All good. I'll just maintain that it didn't happen and you can't prove otherwise :P 09:59 heh 09:59 I can't fix anything now anyway because I still have to build a new dev box from scratch after losing 3 HDDs and a motherboard in the space of about 2 weeks. I have most of the parts (assuming nothing else is broken). 10:00 oooh fun 10:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] Vis (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1730 points, T:1389, killed by a rothe 10:06 The ogre werejackal summons help! But none comes. 10:06 never seen that before 10:07 Anyway, I was going to play some more dnh tonight but instead I read a massive backscroll some multi-gendered disc-horse, or something... followed by totally groundless allegations that curses is causing issues in grunhack, which never crashes for any reason. 10:07 now it's 1am so I'm going to bed. 10:07 hothraxxa: that's protection from shape changers. 10:08 ah. i did not know that 10:10 Tangles hah 10:10 Either that or the were is cancelled, but I think that may be a different message. 10:10 i didn't cancel it 10:11 * hothraxxa sighs 10:11 this time i have to kill thoth amon without a wand of death or even one of sleep 10:12 and no free action :( 10:12 both of which you found last time before the crash, I suppose? 10:12 Ah well. good night. 10:12 yes 10:14 sleep well Tangles 10:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of fencing gloves entrusted to her by Crom, on T:50453 10:17 wrong gloves Crom 10:18 maybe they're unsure about you 10:18 hmmm gloves of dex 10:19 also quite nice actually 10:19 gnite Tangles 10:20 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:39005 10:20 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:39007 10:20 should be a trophy for killing your quest nemesis four times 10:20 are you resurrecting him for some reason? 10:21 i wish 10:21 grunt crashes 10:21 oh right 10:25 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 10:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2665 10:38 * hothraxxa sighs 10:38 k2: need another recovery 10:39 recovered 10:39 thanks 10:41 <{Demo}> same crash as before? 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1918 10:45 quest done, saved. i'm reverting to curses. pray for me 10:47 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1579 points, T:2399, killed by a rothe 10:47 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 10:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 105 points, T:145, killed by a poisonous corpse 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15072 10:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:79646 10:54 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:56 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 10:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 22 points, T:113, killed by a sewer rat 10:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1852 10:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1309 points, T:1902, poisoned by a killer bee 10:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:03 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1711 11:09 -!- Spoony_ has joined #hardfought 11:10 -!- twofriedeggs has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:10 -!- Spoony_ is now known as twofriedeggs 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1365 points, T:2237, killed by a dwarf 11:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Slayer, on T:50979 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 4292 points, T:2503, giant beetle 11:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Con Dwa Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1151 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 1237 points, T:954, orc 11:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 5111 points, T:1191, killed by a watchman, while praying 11:33 ETNNTI: no wishes allowed until you ascend nh13d 11:39 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:51108 11:46 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:47 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 11:50 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:50 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 12:01 amateurhour: have you ever messed around wtih the spirit role in slex? 12:03 yeah 12:03 they seem really good 12:03 I got pretty far last night until I turned to slime (wasn't looking hard enough) 12:04 also how do you id most of your stuff in slex? I find it hard to id a bunch of stuff so I just randomly quaff and read scrolls without knowing what they are 12:04 you're asking the person that complains almost daily about how it's impossible to identify anything :P 12:04 damn 12:04 as a spirit I had no pet 12:04 this is apparently a 'feature' 12:04 because lmao good luck waiting on a pet 12:05 also mimics stealing yoru stuff in shops is the worst (side note) 12:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 godhands", on T:11294 12:06 can't remember what downside spirit had that made me switch back to angel 12:06 you can't eat corpses 12:06 but 12:06 you get so much food 12:06 I don't eat corpses anyway on monks 12:06 I was 16k turns in and didn't have a food shortage 12:07 really? 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 60297 points, T:30190, killed by a zruty 12:07 really really 12:07 it is technically slow(?) but as a gladiator I didn't feel slow 12:07 as you have intrinsic speed that cancels out the slow? 12:07 have you tried etherealoid? 12:08 no 12:08 is that a role? 12:08 it's a race 12:08 if you poly you can wear armour and then it's a little busted tbh 12:09 "They don't regenerate HP naturally" 12:09 you kill stuff to heal 12:09 or quaff potions/read scroll 12:09 is wall walking like phasing? 12:09 yeah 12:10 sounds kind of annoying, the no corpses thing I can do it turns out, but what if you get in a hairy situation? 12:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:12046 12:10 how much do you heal on kill? 12:10 depends how strong the monster is 12:10 but tbh you get so many healing scrolls does it even matter? :P 12:11 to be fair I did have a lot https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/slex/dumplog/1602437773.slex.txt 12:11 d - 22 uncursed scrolls of healing {0} 12:11 with a lot in my pack as well 12:12 lol then you'll be fine 12:12 btw etherealoid in notdnethack is great 12:12 ndnh etherealoid for smash bros 12:12 I hardly even used phase door with spirit 12:13 I used it what twice? 12:29 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "partly eaten greased very fixed blessed historic dragonhide +5 cloak of magic resistance and reflection named don't touch me rodney", on T:40862 12:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1098 12:42 don't fuck with priests 12:42 duly noted 12:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1309 points, T:1146, killed by a priest of Raijin, while paralyzed by a monster 12:44 That tends to be standard for most early game players across variants :B 12:44 Even without the subsequent wrath of their god they can absolutely kick you to pieces 12:45 I saw the 1d6 and was like "I can kill him" 12:45 -!- every has joined #hardfought 12:45 unlike slex which the priest has an assload of stats 12:50 I am apparently now wearing Oven Mitts of Power in xnh. Padded gloves protect from hot doorknob traps. Made of bone with an AUM of 9... 12:52 Forgot the leading 4d10 eh? 12:52 Oh yeah and that's before spellcasting 12:52 Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical 12:52 that is all that is said in the xnethack monster lookup 12:53 Ah, looking at vanilla 12:53 xnethack is basically vanilla plus some changes 12:53 Doesn't mention xNet or its changes on the page 12:53 so priests have a 4d10 good to know 12:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Brd Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2398 12:53 It's usually a 4d10 weapon attack followed by a 1d4 kick 12:53 So I had it reversed, they can just smack you to pieces instead 12:54 uh are you saying monster lookup is wrong? because I get 4d10 weapon phys, 1d4 kick phys, clerical spellcast 12:54 Still, they also have clerical spells on top of that 12:54 !lastgame 12:54 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/xnethack/dumplog/1602519895.xnh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tromix/nethack/dumplog/1602513818.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1602490418.nh.html 12:54 you may have been looking at 'priest' rather than 'aligned priest' 12:55 Oh right, lmfao 12:55 probably, aosdict 12:55 "priest" would pull up the player monster form 12:55 I get this https://puu.sh/GCgi8/03571b37ff.png after looking at the priest 12:55 that is all it offers me 12:56 Apparently lookup doesn't differentiate between player monster priests and aligned priests 12:56 Which as we just saw can actually get someone killed 12:56 regex a shit probably 12:56 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Aligned_priest 12:56 yeah much spookier 12:57 Ye, they'll kick your hypothetical tits right in 12:57 remember to summon earth on them 12:57 then fuck with them 12:57 I've seen that once 12:57 Warhorses CAN manage it, but you have to be diligent 12:57 (I say that because >reliably polymorphing pets) 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 3050 points, T:2862, killed by a soldier ant 12:58 Go team a! 12:58 god damnit, don't eat tins they may be made of meat 12:58 lmfao 12:58 not really sure how to insert 'aligned priest' when looking at one 12:59 do the aligned priests always start out with a random name? 12:59 When in doubt, you can always just discard the tin 12:59 wdym 12:59 in as such you know when looking at a priest what it is, instead of having the catchall of priest 13:00 Oh 13:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Brd Hum Fem Neu) was given the Singing Sword, on T:4419 13:00 Aligned priests are generated as serving one of your current pantheon 13:01 e.g. if I'm playing an Arc, an aligned priest can be of Quetzal, Camax, or Hueholtl 13:01 <{Demo}> epri mextra struct 13:02 Umbire: or as I like to call him, huehuehuetotl 13:02 lol 13:05 I guess that would be a way to match it then 13:06 huh new lesson learned 13:06 don't mh into someone 13:06 if you are blind 13:07 I typically use m to be just move 13:07 is that not standard? 13:07 Not necessarily, but it's safe 13:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Mon Hum Fem Law), 1856 points, T:1297, killed by a priestess of Chih Sung-tzu, while paralyzed by a monster 13:07 wasn't safe here 13:07 Ofc if you're blind it's a moot point 13:07 when how do you move while blind and not hit things 13:07 in slex that is m direction 13:07 that way you don't start hitting your pets or w/e 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 391 points, T:490, killed by a dart 13:08 Iunno if that's retained in vanilla or other variants, I'm led to guess vanilla doesn't do the same 13:08 in any case it's definitively not the case here :c 13:08 how do you move while blind and not attack? 13:08 is that just not a thing? 13:08 I'd think it's a thing but hmmm 13:09 m maybe? 13:09 amateurhour: that just got me killed 13:09 oh rip 13:09 !lastgame 13:09 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/nethack/dumplog/1602521914.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tromix/nethack/dumplog/1602513818.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1602490418.nh.html 13:09 Just to be sure 13:09 Oh piss, was too late on that 13:09 !lastgame dolors 13:09 Umbire: No last game for dolors. 13:10 !lastgame dolores 13:10 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/xnethack/dumplog/1602521180.xnh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/slex/dumplog/1562088647.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/slex/dumplog/1569763424.slex.txt 13:10 Wait! There's something there you can't see! 13:10 No message difference, naturally 13:10 It gets angry! 13:10 I think it's contingent on you being able to see if anything's in your way, then if peaceful you politely ask them to move 13:11 I must say these last game logs are much nicer than the slex one 13:11 huh annoying 13:11 in xnethack you can just move into them if you see them for a swap place 13:11 or w/e 13:11 I guess don't move to friendly places while blind ever 13:13 is... is that a safe thing to do in slex? 13:14 it's not a safe game to play 13:14 I'm pretty sure it is? 13:15 I do it when confused often 13:15 to not attack my pet 13:15 I think with invis monsters as kurwa I do it at the start 13:15 IIRC 13:16 Anyway lost my other Arc to a werewolf in dark Minetown 13:17 E-word didn't take and it'd summoned two wolves + a winter wolf 13:18 "You move right into it." "Pardon me, Jennifer." 13:18 if I press m 13:18 if you just move you attack 13:18 Collusion! 13:18 I'm not blind 13:18 but my pet and all monsters are invisible 13:18 if that makes a difference? 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 pair of speed boots", on T:50562 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3834 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed bag of holding", on T:50585 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 7767 points, T:6885, drowning 13:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:39 -!- every has left #hardfought 13:40 -!- every has joined #hardfought 13:40 -!- every has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 237 points, T:547, snake 13:50 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 13:54 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:58 -!- 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[nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 1916 points, T:2259, orc 14:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:72737 14:13 [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) killed the invisible Mephisto, on T:38513 14:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:73147 14:20 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1683 points, T:1850, killed by a housecat 14:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1836 14:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1905 points, T:1890, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant spider 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1967 14:27 [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) killed the invisible Malcanthet, on T:38925 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1273 points, T:2272, killed by an orcish arrow 14:28 [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) killed Pazuzu, on T:39002 14:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:73490 14:33 [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) killed Kostchtchie, on T:39103 14:36 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 14:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) became the Whisperer of Este, on T:73705 14:43 -!- tromix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:46 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:13657 14:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:74021 14:49 [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:39719 14:56 [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:39882 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 12737 points, T:7916, killed by an invisible stalker 15:00 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 15:11 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Eth Mal Neu), 186918 points, T:14085, killed by a heavy iron ball 15:11 rip 15:11 F 15:11 !lastgame 15:11 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1602448751.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/notdnethack/dumplog/1602417247.ndnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1602490418.nh.html 15:12 the arsenal snuck up on me and demolished me 15:12 I was being a doofus really 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 347 points, T:1623, killed by a rabid rat 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 670 points, T:1901, killed by a small mimic 15:12 there's almost 0 point doing the law quest as eth monk in ndnh 15:12 <{Demo}> oona pet 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 836 points, T:1274, killed by a wererat 15:14 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:14 didn't think of that 15:14 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2803 15:16 -!- kelamir[m] has quit [Quit: killed] 15:17 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3010 15:18 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3125 15:20 people used to talk about pet oonas a lot during the tiedie shirt days 15:22 -!- kelamir[m] has joined #hardfought 15:26 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 2619 points, T:3311, overpowered by a blue jelly 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a leather golem, on T:17945 15:29 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:51700 15:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Mal Neu), 319851 points, T:19443, killed by an argentum golem 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1888 points, T:2492, killed by a werewolf 15:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1290 15:43 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law), 976 points, T:2010, killed by a bolt of fire 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18711 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) murdered Hachi, her faithful little dog, on T:1327 15:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2862 points, T:1729, killed by a crocodile 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1192 points, T:1927, killed by a killer bee 15:53 K2: what's your stand on livelog spam? 15:53 in what context 15:54 I'm updating the livelog of unnethack to incorporate the same events as 3.7. which means a bit more livelog messages than 3.7 because more branches 15:54 gotcha 15:55 i think the whole entered minetown or obtained the rank of 'badass' is a bit much 15:56 early on with 370-hdf we discussed suppressing some of that, but no one has really complained 15:56 oh, those. no, I won't add them yet. 15:57 IMO they would be nice to have if you would get an automatically generated history of your journey at the end of game but for livelogging, I don't think they are interesting 15:58 the 'first entered a shop' and things like there were way over the top though 15:59 yeah 15:59 entered a shop 15:59 really? 15:59 :) 15:59 easy junethack trophy :-) 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1922 15:59 \o/ 15:59 lol hi Bliss56 15:59 Hi K2 16:00 i see you reached mine town 16:00 just a peek 16:00 entered a room. 16:00 'Let us leave this place. It is a silly place' 16:00 entered a corridor. 16:00 killed a hill orc. 16:00 an interesting one could be 'got a bag of holding', 'obtained magic resistance', 'obtained reflection', and 'got the castle wand' 16:00 got bitten by a newt 16:00 picked the lint out of their navel 16:01 whined to K2 for the 473rd time about bobble hats 16:01 <{Demo}> yummy navel snacks 16:01 :P 16:02 amateurhour: the first 3 could be spoilers. for the last one, that's something I have chalked up somewhere back in my mind as "reached the goal of side quests/branches" 16:02 I do like the idea of a big log at the end of when you did certain things, and I like it when broken conducts get announced. Stuff that is inevitable is less interesting, like the titles. 16:03 The rank titles are relevant with regards to the Quest, sorta 16:03 the spam isn't even that bad, all things considered. It's pretty easy to grok through and it's not uncommon for the messages to spur conversation or interest in the channel 16:03 Yeah 16:04 The shop one is a bit... spurious I wanna say, though? 16:04 I just mean the announcements of the titles Umbire. I'm not advocating for removing titles 16:04 Neko-chan: were you here when it was much more verbose? it was awful lol 16:04 I know you aren't 16:04 amateurhour: I'm sure it could get really bad. 16:04 I'm just arguing they at least serve some kinda purpose 16:04 Umbire: given that the chances of a shop a very high in first 3 levels, yes it is 16:04 Mhm 16:05 but there is a good balance that can be achieved 16:05 Flipside of that is, you can probably guess where the bones are if they die to a mimic after :B 16:05 i wouldnt mind seeing livelogs of the higher player ranks 16:05 bhaak I don't think other than the first one the others are spoilers 16:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1759 points, T:2704, killed by a gnome lady, while praying 16:05 Though that begs the question of "are announcements intended to be aids in pinpointing dead players" 16:05 like tiers 6 and up 16:06 but the lower ranks... no one cares 16:06 reflection maybe for unidenfied amulets I guess actually 16:06 amateurhour: amulet of reflection doesn... and cloaks of MR are very valuable to know 16:06 can't you unambiguously id coMR? 16:07 only if you have the right items 16:07 I mean Rank 5 would theoretically work for Lawfuls 16:07 But otherwise I agree 16:07 Unless I'm misunderstanding (which I likely am) 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 7952 points, T:4861, killer bee 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3008 16:11 K2: that makes sense, would be a lot more interesting 16:11 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 16:11 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 1443 points, T:2036, dismembered by a soldier ant 16:12 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 16:13 Go team a! 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:3103 16:14 Take that, me. 16:14 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:15 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought 16:16 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 122 points, T:83, homunculus 16:17 Maybe instead of the first time you have reflection or MR, it's the first time you identify an item which has it, like when a beam reflects from you or you step on a polymorph trap and your cloak resists it 16:17 That way you'd get the relevant logging and then also not be party to bot id 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 127 points, T:227, hobgoblin 16:18 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:2984 16:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a large shield entrusted to her by Crom, on T:3684 16:20 may have committed a tiny bit of murder 16:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:3141 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 288 points, T:339, orc 16:20 oh 16:20 time to die 16:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law), 5157 points, T:3157, poisoned by a rotted glob of gray ooze, while frozen by a potion 16:21 I thought gray ooze was vegan for some reason 16:21 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1275 16:21 alas no 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 70 points, T:200, homunculus 16:23 Vegetarian maybe, vegan no 16:23 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 1462 points, T:1340, done in by a baby silver dragon called Whiskers 16:24 Well, it's clearly not vegetarian 16:24 Wait no, what am I thinking of 16:24 bah 16:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 4841 points, T:5150, killed by a cursed amulet of life saving 16:27 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 196 points, T:724, slain by a gnome lord 16:28 Neko-chan: yes, that makes more sense. 16:29 gah messed up sokoban by 16:31 Oh no 16:31 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 how can you mess up sokoban as a giant 16:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1528 points, T:2354, killed by a fire ant 16:32 by having to take a luck penalty 16:32 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) had The Marauder's Map bestowed upon her by the storm, on T:49806 16:32 Neko-chan: They are vegetarian actually 16:32 Vegetarian = no meat, vegan = no animal products 16:33 amateurhour just got dinged for 'eating animal products' in evilhack, which is what I was responding to 16:33 yeah, though I wasn't actually going for vegan this time you have to remember the oozes aren't vegan 16:34 but the blobs are 16:34 yeah, that's what gets me, the blobs vs globs 16:34 ^ 16:34 cause the puddings used to be corpses 16:34 That's probably what's getting me, gray ooze blobs are considered vegetarian in vanilla 16:35 what are you saying 16:35 ^ 16:35 they're not vegan in either 16:35 :P 16:35 I said vegetarian, not vegan 16:35 yes, they're vegetarian in both 16:35 i.e. not meat but still an animal product 16:36 in any case I'm still clearly cooked 6_9 16:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:2275 16:37 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1609 16:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 silver tsurugi of frost", on T:52750 16:38 ^ thanks microlance 16:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:52756 16:39 <@microlance> they are pretty good, better than most artis for sure. 16:39 <@microlance> for giants atleast 16:40 yes, great for giants 16:45 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed Slipscale the Betrayer, on T:35704 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2459 16:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law), 3762 points, T:3245, killed by a warg 16:48 Nice, apparently you can tame the dragonmaster's quest nemesis' pet dragon 16:48 so now I have a unique dragon pet with an amulet stealing attack? 16:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed scroll of genocide", on T:76675 16:48 I wonder if it will take the amulet from the high priest 16:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:52765 16:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) genocided leprechauns, on T:52766 16:50 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 3810 points, T:2543, quit 16:51 leprechauns no more 16:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1236 points, T:823, killed by a leocrotta 16:54 lol mobileuser 16:54 is your amulet of life saving made out of gold? that's when they get annoying... 16:54 you're just trying to steal their lucky charms >:( 16:54 My quest artifact is an engagement ring (= gold) 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:24, killed by a falling object 16:56 Wew 16:56 That about justifies it I'd say 16:57 Yes, bit annoying to get your source of MR + free action + sickness resistance stolen by a lep :-) 16:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1624 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5221 17:01 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:51111 17:04 does it matter if the quest leader dies if you've already finished the quest? 17:04 it shouldnt no 17:05 not sure what that will do with your standing with your deity though 17:06 I think nothing, provided you aren't directly responsible personally. 17:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2544 points, T:1573, killed by an orc-captain 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3182 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 488 points, T:1280, killed by a bear trap 17:11 bleh I don't think the bell of opening generated, or something. Can't find it anywhere 17:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide jumping boots", on T:52938 17:15 It should've been dropped by the nemesis 17:15 Weird 17:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53104 17:18 He dropped the quest artifact, but not the bell 17:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Bael, on T:88372 17:19 The Bell should've at least generated 17:19 Was it left where they spawned at level gen? 17:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 mithril large shield of decay", on T:52948 17:20 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 164 points, T:537, overpowered by a jackal 17:21 ranodmly found a bag of holding again 17:21 this is great 17:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26 Umbire: It spawns in their inventory generally, and the quest item on the space they are on. For whatever reason, it wasn't in his inventory when he died. Since he dropped the quest item, it's even more curious where it could go. I don't think he'd drop it on the first turn, but I checked all possible sane squares he could spawn in 17:27 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:27 I'm gonna have to come back with a crystal ball probably, or some object detection potions 17:27 if the game is unwinnable then oh well 17:28 It *shouldn't* be, I'd feel like there was a contingency for that 17:28 Unwinnable, that is 17:28 <{Demo}> is this vanilla? 17:29 spl 17:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1269 17:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:7878 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5898 17:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 937 points, T:3895, killed by a giant ant 17:35 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:2263 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:6055 17:37 !who 17:37 K2: [hdf-us] elron [slshm] widmerpool [nh370] ichbinmiah [nh370] plaxcaster [nh370] Bugpowder [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] nekochan [spl] cdsboy [spl] phaperplane2 [dnh] dgoddard [xnh] dolores [xnh] every2 [xnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] gargor [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:38 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6149 17:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 266 points, T:818, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 17:41 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:2566 17:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2672 points, T:1759, killed by a yeti 17:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10878 points, T:4329, killed by a piranha 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:6586 17:46 :( sad death, had a coaligned alter and a bag of holding 17:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Troglodyte, on T:980 17:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1082 17:50 There was probably a BoH or two in the Minetown I splatted at 17:50 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 17:50 also base nethack has fake artifacts as well, right? 17:51 I had +3 copper spears named "vlade's bane" 17:51 they were pretty good 17:51 nope, not in vanilla 17:51 so vlad's bane was an actual artifact? 17:51 xnh isn't vanilla 17:51 fair 17:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 449 points, T:1260, killed by a dwarf 17:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2167 points, T:1393, killed by a dwarf 17:55 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:41278 17:55 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4768 17:56 That name is a riff on the fact pre-3.6.2 Vlad used to be a major weenie 17:56 Basically a not-much-stronger vamp lord 17:56 People would intentionally wreck him with the weakest thing possible and name them "Vladsbane" 17:57 i'm guessing xNet added that as a send up 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class R), on T:18147 17:57 I'm* 17:57 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5022 17:57 In addition to (I'm guessing) having pre-named weapons generate 17:58 Or something 17:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:808 17:58 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6076 points, T:5317, sent to the grave by a giant praying mantis 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 18993 points, T:10669, killed by a chameleon imitating a displacer beast 18:01 -!- qt_ has quit [Quit: cya] 18:02 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 18:04 Wait they have those now? 18:04 Wew 18:15 yes, and genetic engineers 18:15 Those I remember 18:15 Still worried about their impact in fact but mm 18:15 they were added at the same time along with amulets of flying and guarding 18:15 Yeah I was there for those 18:16 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 18:20 just reviewing the livelog discussion in backscroll, because you lot always insist on having interesting/important discussions at 6am for some reason... The history is that we decided to livelog 'achievements' when it was just stuff like 'finished sokoban' and 'killed medusa'. I tried to make a PR for the DT to merge livelogging back around the time of 3.6.0/1 but there was never much interest so we have always maintained the patch separate 18:20 Maybe wake up earlier. 18:20 :^) 18:21 That would work, except that I would also miss the other conversations at midnight-2am. 18:21 I'm joking anyway. 18:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:1285 18:21 I suppose I could just try not sleeping :P 18:21 What I'm not joking about is not knowing this was a patch thing. 18:22 Tangles: Give it a spin, you'll be feeling like a newborn in days. :B 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:12969 18:24 Aaaaanyway.... the livelog patch includes a bunch of defined categories, so you can choose which kinds of events to log (wishes, sacrifice gifts, breaking conducts, etc), so when all the new achievements were introducd, we split the achievement category, and made another one called 'minor achievement', which is where we bundled things like 'entered a shop' and the lower ranks like 'junior toilet scrubber', so what K2 said about only logging 18:25 but perhaps we could move the cutoff up a notch or two if it's still a bit spammy. 18:27 it's fine now but would be insane for NAO 18:27 So anyway, you can decide at compile time how much gets written to the livelog, and also I think I implemented some filtering in Beholder itself, but that may have been to suppress livelogging low turncount events (because the game itself does not know about !setmintc obviously). 18:29 Now unfortunately, even if I give up on sleep, I can't afford to give up on work, so off I go! 18:30 Bye all... may your splats be infrequent, yet glorioius :P 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2184 18:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4197 points, T:2409, killed by an ape 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 407 points, T:1214, killed by a gnome lord 18:37 I mean I just got a note on alt.org about someone self-genociding 48K+ turns into their dwarven Valk 18:37 I'd say that's p. glorious for 3 people 18:38 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42 for 3 people? 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:13493 18:50 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:42686 18:53 As in, glorious enough of a splat to count as 3 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 280 points, T:442, cadaver 18:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1080 18:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law), 847 points, T:1437, killed by a giant spider 19:00 <{Demo}> what is "cadaver" death in 1.3d? 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3660 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 965 points, T:1004, orc 19:02 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:43081 19:02 lol Tangles 19:02 that should be a t-shirt slogan in the game 19:03 'May your splats be infrequent, yet glorioius' 19:03 Yes 19:03 <{Demo}> a blaze of glory 19:04 Also "cadaver" = died from feeling sick while eating a slightly old corpse 19:04 <{Demo}> ah 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3858 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12134 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 66759 points, T:23866, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3913 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cubical amulet on an altar, on T:3924 19:13 Evilcubed 19:13 Poor bastard 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5216 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5314 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:5092 19:18 [backscroll] I don't agree with calling the random named weapons "fake artifacts", which I would associate more with a slex-like system of something that appears to be an actual artifact but isn't. they only seem like fake artifacts because you're used to vanilla 19:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:2243 19:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2482 19:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:2609 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7373 points, T:6443, killed by a wolf 19:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1983 points, T:3218, killed by a water moccasin 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:12624 19:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2731 points, T:3056, killed by a dwarf lady 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13286 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1084 points, T:2528, killed by a rothe 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 18349 points, T:6179, killed by a dwarf lord, while reading a book 19:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5296 19:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Mal Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:2682 19:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5461 19:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 2448 points, T:2863, killed by a saber-toothed tiger 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:1553 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:14841 19:59 -!- unsound3 has joined #hardfought 20:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 686 points, T:3162, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 24239 points, T:14872, killed by a black unicorn 20:00 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 20:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:77345 20:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 17 points, T:116, killed by a goblin 20:02 -!- unsound_ has joined #hardfought 20:02 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:03 -!- unsound3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:802 20:05 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Law), 652 points, T:1542, killed by a piranha 20:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:7162 20:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hum Fem Cha), 574 points, T:991, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted little dog 20:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7542 20:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 17684 points, T:8514, petrified by a cockatrice 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2418 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3669 points, T:3521, killed by an ettin zombie 20:30 The hell kinda Minetown did you fine 20:30 find* 20:30 !lastgame 20:30 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1602546244.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1602547680.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1602490418.nh.html 20:31 Ah, was under Minetown and mongen throw a lucky-hitting ettin zom 20:31 <@www> hello! 20:31 Hello @www, Welcome to #hardfought 20:32 <@www> I just loaded up my save after a few months 20:32 <@www> why do I do this to myself lmao trying to figure out what the heck I was up to 20:33 Good luck 20:33 (I hate that even though I do it to myself constantly) 20:34 <@www> oh I was about to sit on a throne in the castle 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed oh6's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:1637 20:34 Oho 20:34 <@www> is there a way to check if I've genocided anything? 20:34 Uhhhhhh 20:34 ^X 20:34 <@www> thanks 20:34 Or whatever keyboard equivalent is 20:34 I think that's a ctrl? 20:34 <@www> yeah 20:36 <@www> oh wow, got SDSM, life saving, +6 excalibur, MR, hawaiian shirt, slow digestion, tele + control 20:36 <@www> why did I stop 20:36 <@www> GoP 20:36 <@www> reflection 20:36 <@www> I'm loaded 20:38 <@www> 23 blessed scrolls of blank paper an uncursed magic marker (0:6) an uncursed magic marker 😎 20:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 the sword of bheleu", on T:3783 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 997 points, T:1707, killed by a rothe 20:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 10312 points, T:6093, killed by an ettin mummy 20:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:79440 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3618 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3681 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3681 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3697 21:11 [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 303122 points, T:43915, killed by a gug, while helpless 21:15 What's the best spell for an early game? I'm going to propose: sleep 21:16 that or healing 21:16 healing would be slightly better as you cant accidentally reflect it off the wall and incapacitate yourself 21:17 Ah, interesting - yet another monk'ism for me. 21:17 Doesn't matter if I hit myself with that. 21:17 Hi arahael 21:17 Umbire: Hey. :) Lunch break. :) 21:18 sure as a monk, you start with sleep res 21:18 but overall... 21:18 You get to spend it seeing me play 21:18 (once I fix my settings) 21:18 speaking of sleep 21:18 * K2 zaps himself with a wand of sleep 21:18 Sleep well, and thank you again! 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 322 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:53047 21:19 shut up and take my money! 21:20 Umbire: Where abouts are you in the game? What are you playing as? 21:21 Neutral human priestess 21:21 Long overdue to actually get things going 21:21 (name is the same ofc) 21:21 Ah, nice. 21:22 Gonna be a bit slowish, esp. since I'm getting used to keyboard proper 21:22 do most monsters not resist sleep? 21:22 Just tuned in. :) You're at T:36 21:22 (thank god for NetHack mode on PuTTY) 21:22 uhhhhhhhh, that's down to MR and if they have sleep res or not 21:22 Umbire: You've got ESP already? 21:23 I do? 21:23 Oh shit I do 21:23 must be the helm I found near where I started 21:23 Amazing. 21:23 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2559 21:23 YANI: anything that comes from wizkit.txt is automatically identified at wizmode game start 21:23 YANI: wizard mode command #wizforget which un-identifies all carried items to the extent possible 21:24 Did you just accuse me of wizmoding? D:< 21:24 21:24 I just really like wizard mode enhancements okay 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 362 points, T:635, homunculus 21:25 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 21:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Brd Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10367 21:25 aosdict: Why not just use a blessed scroll of id? 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:53630 21:26 arahael: well in vanilla, that'd take several attempts to even work, I just want to start all my games with my wands of death, probing, teleportation, and polymorph identified so that I don't have to go look in the ^I menu which is which 21:27 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 2358 points, T:2969, quit 21:27 having to wish for "10 blessed scrolls of identify" every game and then mash space through message spam is not a great solution 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law), 518 points, T:1964, killed by a giant bat 21:31 It really isn't 21:31 Hmmm, need to hit up curses interface next chance I get 21:31 I have to admit the mobile port spoiled me by having my total exp visible 21:31 Umbire: That's a setting. 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 264 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:53736 21:32 Umbire: Should be in options. 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (giant eels), on T:500 21:32 I figure, but I'm also still learning how to navigate this in general 6_9 21:32 Umbire: Ha, wow. :) I thought you were like, one of the old dudes here. :) 21:32 giant eels? 21:32 Not in terms of playing :B 21:32 Ha. :) 21:32 klintos: You know, for the future trip to the Plane of Water 21:32 I've mostly played the mobile port, as just indicated 21:33 turn 500? that's one heck of a speed run :) 21:33 :B 21:33 What's ':B'? 21:34 Bucktooth emote 21:34 I use it when I'm foolin' 21:34 Ah, interesting. :) 21:34 Jealous how you got extrinsic ESP so early! 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1121 21:35 Aye, hopefully that luck holds 21:36 Baw, starting spells are kinda asscheeks 21:36 But I'll live (hopefully) 21:39 Hopefully. ;) 21:39 Risky starting prayer. 21:39 I'd have waited until at least turn 600-ish? 21:39 It was either that or risk headassing myself to my dog not wanting to move 21:39 A newt takes what, 2 hp at a time? 21:40 And I was at 2 21:40 Fair enough. 21:41 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1754 21:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:81326 21:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:81329 21:42 * klintos looks up if "kinda asscheeks" is good, or bad 21:42 * klintos fails 21:43 cure blindness/sickness ain't doin' much for me this early in the game 21:43 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 1160 points, T:1982, killed by a blue jelly 21:44 Yeah, those are pretty pointless. 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2496 21:48 Sick, a deli 21:48 Not much on me though 21:49 Tjibarusa the samuri delicatessin! 21:49 Clutch tin, that 21:50 Prices are reasonable at least 21:51 Unholy water already, fortunate 21:51 Indeed. 21:51 Are corpses in a deli always good to eat? 21:52 Those are food items 21:52 Yeah, but if they were corpses... 21:52 ...you probably knew that, but I always play with tiles so it's a bit of an adjustment. 6_9 21:52 You only see corpses in shops in the form of an ice box's contents, barring bones 21:52 Ice boxes are basically mini-fridges with the express purpose of preserving corpses 21:52 :) Corpses and food items look pretty similar, but yeah - ah, indeed. I wonder what happens if they have mimics and you kill them. 21:53 The corpse and its drops become property of the shop, as in all cases 21:53 Yes, they do... 21:54 I guess they don't remain fresh - unless in an ice box. 21:54 correct 21:54 OR 21:54 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1819 21:54 You can tin them. 21:54 You owe a fee if you tin a shop's corpse though. 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1276 points, T:3374, killed by a water moccasin 21:55 Which I always think is curious. 21:55 go team } 21:55 Well yeah, not yours to tin and shopkeeps are anal about that sorta thing by design :B 21:56 Sure. :) 21:56 Well, not dead, so not conflict 21:56 :B 21:58 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) destroyed the steam vortex, the former Acolyte, on T:2302 21:58 And some permafood, nice 21:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:7573 22:01 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 1865 points, T:2650, exterminated by a mind flayer telepath 22:02 umbire: where are you playing? 22:03 nvm i found 22:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Brd Hum Fem Neu) was given the Shield of the Resolute Heart, on T:11371 22:03 Figured you'd wanna see 22:03 i used to play priests alll the time (before i switched to monks) 22:03 Please be a gen store 22:03 fug 22:03 ARMOR! 22:04 d'oh 22:04 gotta get all those chain mails! 22:04 Still not much money though 22:05 you like 3.7? It must be a trip coming from mobile! 22:05 Not too much of one lul 22:05 Just need to adjust my eyes 22:06 Learn how to tweak options more than anything 22:06 you can copy other players .rc files 22:06 watch someone play with cools settings and just copy them 22:06 turn that health bar on! 22:08 i dunno if i've even played 3.7 . i think i have. i like the changes though that i've read bout 22:08 No mimics 22:08 Guess I'll just pick up one of these leathers 22:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) averted death, on T:8594 22:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana And Fem Neu), 157529 points, T:8666, killed by an invisible quinon, while sleeping 22:13 -!- Neko-chan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:13 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:16 Can't have my dog stealing just yet 22:16 That time will come 22:16 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) was reincarnated as a fat cat, on T:2266 22:16 Huh. 22:17 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 1243 points, T:2267, quit 22:17 !lastgame 22:17 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/cdsboy/splicehack/dumplog/1602554576.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1602531294.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1602490418.nh.html 22:21 Forgot I had a wand to test and the reflex to dust-engrave E first 22:21 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 22:25 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:26 Oh right, I'm cooked, ESP means I can spot mimics instantly 22:26 (also yus general store) 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8603 22:27 sorry i teased you so much before about not playing with us haha. But now I'm going to comment endlessly on your games... 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:54432 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54433 22:27 Pff, all water under the drawbridge 22:28 (j/k... for real though happy to see you've moved on from the phone) 22:28 take that vladdie! 22:28 gg klintos! 22:29 Umbire: I've had to get gback to work. :( 22:30 Baw, das ok 22:30 You haven't missed too much 22:30 klintos: Good on ya! 22:30 Incidentially, regarding the phone... Are there good nethack clients for iOS? 22:30 Not for iOS that I know of, no 22:30 (Android >>>>> ) 22:30 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 461 points, T:1240, killed by a crossbow bolt 22:31 Hmm, I do have a pixel 3 as well, could I have a recommendation? 22:31 (I'm iOS, but being deaf, I find Google Live Transcribe invaluable) 22:32 Gurr's NetHack port tends to be the most highly regarded of the mobile ports 22:32 (also did not know o: ) 22:32 Now you do. ;) 22:33 I think that's an ID scroll 22:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Brd Hum Fem Neu), 34810 points, T:12348, killed by a psychic blast 22:34 Just installed it, at first impressions, it does seem pretty decent. 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:54911 22:40 gg 22:40 Go go go! 22:40 (RIP Som) 22:40 Create familiar 22:40 * Umbire thinks 22:41 we make great pets 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:9888 22:43 lul 22:43 Expert in clerical but this'll be of no use for quite a while anyway 22:44 no harm 22:45 So I'm pretty sure my dog's stuck 22:46 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2972 22:46 This is actually infuriating ngl 22:47 Alright, how to get this shitter to budge 22:47 Umbire: It was probably eating, or something. 22:47 It isn't. 22:47 Umbire: You can't swap locations in shops. 22:48 It's literally rooted in place, picking up and dropping the same item over and over. 22:48 And I have, multiple times. 22:48 This is a known bug 22:48 Ah, curious. 22:48 i thought they fixed that 22:48 I thought so too 22:48 How to make a TTY of this session so I can show this to relevant parties 22:49 pretty sure the "pet stuck" bug is the gift that keeps on giving 22:49 (And then I flipped to #nethack afterward and saw someone get eaten by Pesty) 22:49 I think you can download tty's from the hardfaught server, they're kept for ages. 22:49 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) made his first wish - "+2 blessed greased fixed hex dragon scale mail", on T:3041 22:49 So do note the time. 22:51 Sick 22:54 Found and downloaded for future reference 22:55 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3725 22:56 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed the invisible Ancient Brain, on T:41002 22:56 no general store in this evil game. argh 22:59 f 22:59 I'm gonna dweeb around with offline NetHack for the duration 23:00 Umbire: No worries. I think you can start a different version as well, online. 23:00 Umbire: Ie, as long as you play a different version, you can have multiple games going. 23:00 I know 23:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:84387 23:00 I was just getting into that one game 23:01 Yeah, that's the trouble! 23:01 (and I'm just decent at vanilla, god knows how quickly 'll splat myself on variants) 23:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:84390 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10853 23:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:84395 23:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:84397 23:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) killed Shaktari, on T:84397 23:03 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Fem Law) killed the invisible saddled Voanairruth, on T:41699 23:07 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a kobold shaman corpse on an altar of Anshar, on T:5084 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:11935 23:11 whoops 23:11 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:44174 23:12 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:5744 23:13 [hdf-us] [spl] cdsboy (Pri Mer Mal Law), 5553 points, T:5745, inhumed by a warg 23:13 Every time, reba 23:13 Just watching rebatela... She's a giant... In Soko, can't she just pickup the stones and gently place them in the holes? 23:14 No, because das cheatin' 23:15 So luck penalty, then? 23:15 I don't think it even allows you to try that lmao 23:15 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:52322 23:15 Also, what did I miss, when you said "Every time, reba". 23:16 There does seem to be a missing stone, now that I notice it. 23:16 I think reba prefers he/him? 23:16 I'm likely wrong 23:16 But reba always botches weaponless when playing as a monk 23:17 Ah. I'm bad at inferring gender from irc names, in any case, though. :( 23:17 It's not always indicative anyhow in fairness :B 23:17 Indeed. 23:17 "they" is p. safe until you're informed otherwise 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3069 23:19 Meh, I dunno. If people routinely call girls "he" unless informed otherwise, I think men shouldn't be so sensitive to care unless they inform otherwise. ;) 23:20 arahael; i'm a dude. but yeah, you can just pick them up but i think you get luck penalty 23:21 Ah, no worries - thanks for that. :) 23:21 for the record, there is no luck penalty for a giant filling the holes in soko, but you can't pick up the boulders there 23:21 i just bring my own 23:21 But yeah, I'm carrying 35 boulders currently 23:22 Disgusting! 23:22 you can pick them up once you solve the level for sure with no penalty 23:22 yes 23:22 i always do that too 23:22 there's no penalty for picking them up before you solve it because you can't 23:23 but as i said, there is no luck penalty for filling the holes with the boulders you bring with you 23:23 right but it lets you stand on them 23:23 prompts you "Do so?" 23:23 ah. that is a luck penalty 23:23 i assume you get the penalty if you say Yes? 23:23 yes 23:24 mind you i almsot never care about the luck penalty in soko, as long as it's only one or two points 23:24 that's my favorite thing about giants though if you want to make a stash? You jsut drop everything you want along with 1 boulder and move off the spot 23:24 yes! 23:24 also in corridors, drop boulder step back launch missile attack 23:25 yep! 23:25 whihc can be... throw bolders! 23:25 haha exactly 23:25 shit my typing 23:25 boulders are great 23:25 they are great for nymphs, floating eyes. lots of early game pests like that boulders are perfect 23:26 Perhaps I should try a giant monk game next. 23:26 yes in evilhack... they are super fun imo 23:26 monks are a natural match for the giant race 23:26 i agree 23:27 that's why i astral splatted two in a row 23:27 before k2 gave us gauntlets of protection and helms of speed 23:27 and amulets of mr 23:28 lol. You need to ascend one now! 23:28 i did didn't i? 23:28 They have absolutely no chest armour, though, do they? 23:28 * hothraxxa forgets 23:28 no 23:28 yeah.. i'm trying to do lawful and the amulet of mr seems to be the solution, but i'm STILL tempted to go for the tool right now lol 23:29 MC is going to be difficult. 23:29 arahael: Late, but it's not about being sensitive in that particular sense, more-so sensitive in the sense of being considerate and not assuming. 23:29 get MR with the eyes when i do quest..it's just about surviving until then tho 23:29 Basically what you describe is why I default to they until I know what's preferred 23:29 hm. did ginat wizard and of course, valk. never went back to monk 23:30 You didn't, did you... 23:30 Umbire: That's a fair point. 23:30 oh i had a giant monk who relied on the eyes. rodney took them and gave me the touch of death 23:30 that lawful slot is still open... 23:30 Shmucked 23:30 yeah. he stole the amulet and eyes etc from me but i was able to sruvive and get back 23:30 Anyway, returning some focus on this offline phone game 23:31 THAT'S when it becomes a game lol.. Chasing the wizard around trying to get the artifacts back 23:31 Should actually grab tiles/a good rc/curses/etc. for my local machine 23:31 <{Demo}> he's a missing person 23:32 oh SHIT 23:32 Jackal dropped a horn of plenty 23:38 Yeeeeeeeeeee shop had a +1 helm of brilliance 23:38 phone luck OP 23:39 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Malcanthet, on T:53294 23:40 Shame there's no good armor but with this and the +1 gloves I got I can make do a bit more 23:40 ID scroll'd unchanging too 23:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:13099 23:45 w00t 23:45 who needs magic resistance 23:48 not me 23:48 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44906 23:48 oh no! she's using touch of death! 23:49 .....dywypi? 23:51 -!- Neko-chan has joined #hardfought 23:52 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:54087 23:53 rebatela: What's that!? "foop"? 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 27864 points, T:10711, killed by a doppelganger imitating a rogue, while sleeping 23:54 eesh 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4179 23:55 Damn, fuckin' Ezio Auditore over here 23:56 * Umbire waves to Neko-chan 23:56 Eh?