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00:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] bebing (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2636
00:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Pri Mal), 15110 points, T:3039, visit to hell
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00:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] bebing (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:5568
00:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] BaeHund (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 357 points, T:719, killed by a jackal
01:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2664
01:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] bebing (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 10442 points, T:6071, killed by an owlbear
01:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] BaeHund (Con Hum Fem Cha), 95 points, T:386, killed by a sewer rat
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01:08 <bug_sniper> k2, are you going to add your elbereth changes to https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Elbereth#Variants ?
01:11 <bug_sniper> I'm going to bed, you can reply by !tell
01:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3255
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01:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] BaeHund (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 3521 points, T:1933, killed by a hill orc
01:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) attained the rank of Page of Scales, on T:25955
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01:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:35423
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01:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3285
01:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3380
01:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "Blessed Fixed +2 Gray Dragon Scale Mail", on T:3386
01:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:26117
01:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 4635 points, T:4082, killed by a pony
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02:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Red Fem Cha), 435 points, T:872, killed by a monster (water elemental)
02:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Lun Cel Fem Cha), 373 points, T:217, killed by a monster (Kop Reinforcer), while praying unsuccessfully
02:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Red Fem Cha), 37 points, T:635, killed by return to the state before being born
02:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Lun Cel Mal Cha), 25 points, T:110, poisoned by a cyanide potion
02:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Lun Cel Fem Cha), 536 points, T:740, killed by a filthy traitor
02:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Lun Cel Fem Cha), 316 points, T:1055, killed by a monster (Venonir)
02:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Lun Cel Fem Cha), 678 points, T:502, killed by a monster (regular demon), while fainted from lack of food
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04:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [xnh] pevsand (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 130 points, T:635, killed by a dart
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04:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [xnh] pevsand (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 79 points, T:195, killed by a bear trap
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04:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:46968
04:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2053
04:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 7771 points, T:2444, killed by a soldier ant
04:44 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh4] Gadette (PeachMuffin) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 11556 points, T:178, killed by a hobbit
04:48 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [xnh] pevsand (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 112 points, T:509, killed by a fox
04:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [ndnh] pevsand (Wiz Vam Fem Law), 436 points, T:1426, died of starvation
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05:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Dispater, on T:48316
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06:49 <K2> !tell bug_sniper eventually. I replied via !tell :P
06:49 <Beholder> I'm on it, K2.
06:58 <aosdict> !tell bug_sniper Many variant devs follow a policy of not changing pages to reflect the variant, outside the variant's own space.
06:58 <Beholder> bug_sniper shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict.
07:17 <arahael> Woah, started with GoP.
07:17 <stenno> wut
07:17 <stenno> which variant?
07:19 <arahael> 3.7 vanilla.
07:19 <arahael> Not actually started with, but it was generated on the square right next to me.
07:19 <rld> <@banjoe> what do i wish for as a late game samurai
07:21 <stenno> banjoe magic marker?
07:21 <stenno> or save a wish
07:21 <stenno> depends a bit on what you already have lo
07:21 <stenno> but magic marker is usually the most useful tool in the lategame
07:24 <rld> <@banjoe> its my second throne wish this run 😂
07:24 <rld> <@banjoe> i wished for opposite alingment
07:25 <rld> <@banjoe> for inevitable mysterious force fuckabout
07:25 <rld> <@banjoe> i basically have most of ascension kit
07:25 <rld> <@banjoe> -16 ac, marker, unicorn, life saving, reflection, mg resis
07:25 <rld> <@banjoe> etc
07:29 <stenno> how often did you win already?
07:29 <stenno> -16 is a bit low on average
07:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 482 points, T:1454, died of starvation, while fainted
07:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:48525
07:44 <mobileuser> Demo down
08:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:10
08:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 116 points, T:384, killed by a small mimic
08:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:57507
08:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 400 points, T:968, killed by an invisible red mold
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08:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1712
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08:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4648 points, T:3219, killed by a wand
08:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2926
09:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1578 points, T:3243, killed by a giant mimic
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09:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 937 points, T:1220, killed by a crossbow bolt
09:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4461
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09:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2091
09:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 86 points, T:22, poisonous corpse
09:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Filcher, on T:47744
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09:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4323
09:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:48166
09:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:3986
09:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3953 points, T:7247, killed by a fire ant
09:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:14728
09:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1232
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09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:15089
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1333 points, T:1578, killed by a gnome
09:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:20749
09:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 13192 points, T:4978, killed by a snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze
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09:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1816
09:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1749 points, T:1991, killed by a priestess of Mitra
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10:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7526
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10:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had a magical apron entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:20891
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10:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:22249
10:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 992 points, T:376, killed by a quasit
10:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1816
10:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1644 points, T:2546, killed by a killer bee
10:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3718
10:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2009 points, T:2270, killed by a watch captain, while sleeping
10:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3493 points, T:3751, killed by an invisible dwarf
10:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:11
10:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 53 points, T:144, killed by a falling rock
10:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7 points, T:42, killed by a jackal
10:33 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:24050
10:36 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 77947 points, T:24133, killed by a rock troll
10:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 526 points, T:893, orc
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10:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:36411
10:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 1066 points, T:989, orc
10:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 70 points, T:43, imp
10:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2102
10:50 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2332
10:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:701
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1772 points, T:2992, killed by a rope golem
10:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:967
10:59 * jonadab whistles innocently.'
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11:01 * amateurhour raises eyebrow
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11:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:228
11:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 75 points, T:242, killed by a goblin
11:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed copper amulet of life saving", on T:36417
11:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3890
11:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Guldan (RossinK) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 809 points, T:1650, killed by a rabid rat
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11:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1233 points, T:2848, killed by a giant cockroach
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11:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) stole 30 zorkmids of merchandise from the assorted antiques of Adjama on T:2095
11:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rougelike (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1116 points, T:754, killed by a pony zombie
11:13 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
11:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:9234
11:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) became the Champion of Camaxtli!, on T:22453
11:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 3792 points, T:2299, demon
11:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1882
11:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1345 points, T:2020, killed by a jaguar
11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:4909
11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:4944
11:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Fem Law), 400 points, T:867, killed by a giant spider
11:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 579 points, T:1074, killed by a pony
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11:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6054
11:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:11279
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11:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:11280
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11:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:11292
12:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] KadGar (RossinK) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 5182 points, T:3087, killed by a mumak
12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23860
12:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:12354
12:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) averted death (sent to the grave by a zombie dragon), on T:34596
12:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:12439
12:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:12439
12:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Fixed +3 Orange Dragon Scale Mail", on T:24197
12:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Fixed +3 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:24279
12:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Spellbook of Magic Mapping", on T:24375
12:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1843
12:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:13032
12:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayers, on T:13041
12:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1640 points, T:4360, killed by a lizard, while frozen by a monster's gaze
12:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu), 789341 points, T:25869, quit
12:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) killed Slipscale the Betrayer, on T:36627
12:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36742
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:13317
12:59 <rld> <@riker> hey k2 any dnh us backtraces from the last couple hours? for Som
12:59 <K2> i'll look
12:59 <K2> there's one from the 5th
13:00 <K2> for phaperplane
13:01 <K2> https://termbin.com/e1s5l
13:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) killed Voanairruth, on T:36798
13:03 <rld> <@riker> huh, tha'ts one i haven't seen before
13:06 <amateurhour> anything in the paniclog K2?
13:08 <aosdict> paniclog is public
13:08 <K2> 1601951157 Som: impossible bad monster weapon restore
13:08 <K2> 1601951157 Som: panic impossible called impossible
13:08 <K2> 1601951157 Som: impossible bad monster weapon restore
13:08 <K2> 1601951157 Som: impossible goto_level: returning to discarded level?
13:08 <K2> 1601951157 Som: impossible goto_level: returning to discarded level?
13:08 <K2> last two lines go on for a long time
13:08 <amateurhour> oh is it public
13:08 <K2> maybe?
13:08 <K2> no
13:09 <K2> i can make it public tho
13:09 <rld> <@riker> hanguplist is public
13:09 <rld> <@riker> paniclogs aren't per-user so i dont think they'd be public
13:09 <aosdict> congrats on your couplet amateurhour and K2
13:09 <aosdict> "is it public / maybe / no? / i can make it public tho"
13:10 <amateurhour> I'm a poet and I wasn't even aware that I was, or something
13:11 <amateurhour> all those timestamps are the same? does it just write them all at once?
13:12 <K2> yup
13:12 <K2> brb
13:12 <jonadab> Ultimately, we are all poets, because by our very existence we contribute to the poetry that is the pattern of life in the universe.
13:13 <aosdict> what a poetic sentiment
13:14 <bhaak> how do you fight the feeling that we are in a cheap reality soap that's threatened by cancellation?
13:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1258
13:16 <{Demo}> would cancellation be the worst
13:17 <bhaak> I don't know. nowadays it looks like you have to wait 30 years and then there's a reunion
13:17 <{Demo}> yeah its just a break before they reboot it
13:18 <bhaak> oh. reboot is the worst
13:18 <aosdict> bhaak: can wands of cancellation be used to cancel shows?
13:20 <jonadab> aosdict: I think you can use a wand of striking on the television set to achieve much the same result.
13:20 <jonadab> Assuming your goal was to not see TV shows any more.
13:21 <LarienTelrunya> !who
13:21 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] groovejumper [dyn] gt [slshm] Karnac [nh370] CeleryHall [nh370] rancat [nh370] tsingi [nh370] hackedhead [nh4] Everdying [spl] nekochan [spl] Som [dnh] hothraxxa [xnh] dgoddard [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
13:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:8270
13:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:37403
13:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47332
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13:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:37760
13:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:10115
13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:10612
13:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:47974
13:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] UniDuck (Cav Hum Mal Law), 253 points, T:392, killed by a poisonous corpse
13:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:9924
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13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed mithril magic harp", on T:49518
13:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) was given the Armor of Khazad-dum, on T:3226
13:53 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:49527
13:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:11681
13:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:14782
13:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10657
13:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 238 points, T:920, killed by a dwarf
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon them by Enlil, on T:37693
14:11 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 634 points, T:1661, killed by a dwarf, while reading a book
14:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:15302
14:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:14084
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:41, on T:49799
14:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49802
14:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1802
14:21 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 522 points, T:1054, killed by a djinni
14:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) killed Drauglir, on T:21540
14:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) had Carnwennan bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:21573
14:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49613
14:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49615
14:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:49838
14:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:15938
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14:35 <qt_> hey all
14:37 <rld> <@dexsg> Hi
14:37 <Beholder> Hello @dexsg, Welcome to #hardfought
14:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 3339 points, T:3598, iron ball
14:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:16321
14:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:50205
14:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:12695
14:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:50207
14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:36146
14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12958
14:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 606 points, T:2591, inhumed by a giant ant
14:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:16667
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15:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18516
15:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:49620
15:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided cockatrices, on T:18555
15:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:13
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:18810
15:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4995
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15:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:5179
15:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:15403
15:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 545 points, T:1828, killed by a gas cloud
15:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 676 points, T:1162, orc
15:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:16734
15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:20  (for the 5th time), on T:51277
15:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2944
15:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3364
15:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4376 points, T:9900, killed by an exploding wand
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:49783
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16:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 25 points, T:128, killed by a boiling potion
16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1617
16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] BaeHund (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1605 points, T:1943, killed by a magic missile
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16:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3388
16:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:51807
16:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Nob Dwa Fem Law), 39234 points, T:5632, killed by a lightning bolt
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2113 points, T:3916, killed by an Uruk-hai
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:49882
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16:16 <loli> what is this a room with 3 alters
16:17 <Umbire> Don't look a gift u in the mouth.
16:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hlf Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42939
16:19 <qt_> loli: one of the new themed rooms
16:19 <qt_> one altar for each alignment, I think it's called ``the temple of the gods'' or something in the level file
16:19 <loli> that is cool
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16:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3995
16:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a flaming sphere, on T:20356
16:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class z, on T:52005
16:24 <loli> what a shame elbereth spam couldn't save me
16:24 <loli> go team Ant
16:24 <loli> I forgot to pray
16:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Sam Hum Fem Law), 926 points, T:2373, killed by a giant ant
16:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "fixed blessed historic diluted partly eaten greased magic harp named please love me prop. of cupid", on T:52011
16:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Swn Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1261
16:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Bartlem (Sam Gul Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of reflection", on T:25659
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16:30 <loli> so for the E word, does it only really work on a tile once or twice per monster?
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16:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] UniDuck (Cav Hum Mal Law), 4053 points, T:4394, killed by something while blind
16:37 <qt_> loli: like a specific monster will only be scared once or twice until you engrave/write it again?
16:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:52162
16:39 <loli> well I tried spamming it against the ant, at first it seemed to work
16:39 <loli> but then it just stopped
16:39 <loli> I was hoping to not waste a prayer given I was trying to mass sac for a gift
16:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 498 points, T:1472, zombified by a kobold zombie
16:40 <amateurhour> ah crap leviathan was gated in
16:40 <Umbire> Elbereth has to be engraved properly to work
16:40 <Umbire> And each time it scares a monster it has a chance to erod
16:40 <Umbire> erode* partially
16:41 <loli> sure, but if one spams it the liklihood one works is high
16:41 <Umbire> Plus, you have to be standing on the tile
16:41 <qt_> In 3.7 only the first one works
16:41 <Umbire> Oh, if you mean engraving ElberethElberethElberethElberethElbereth then no lol
16:41 <Umbire> They been nerfed that
16:41 <qt_> you can't write ElberethElberethElbereth any more
16:42 <loli> well every turn I just did E elbereth
16:42 <loli> gotcha
16:42 <qt_> maybe you just got unlucky with writing it
16:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hlf Mal Law) averted death, on T:44114
16:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1491
16:42 <amateurhour> welp
16:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hlf Mal Law), 1744079 points, T:44114, killed by memory loss
16:43 <amateurhour> freaking leviathan
16:43 <Umbire> F
16:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10572 points, T:6653, quit
16:43 <qt_> loli: I know what the problem is
16:43 <qt_> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/xnethack/dumplog/1602100336.xnh.html
16:44 <qt_> when you engraved on subsequent turns you added to the existing engraving
16:44 <loli> ahh are you not supposed to do that?
16:44 <loli> I guess that goes into elbereth stacking
16:44 <qt_> it's something that used to work when Elbereth just had to appear anywhere in the line, but now that it's /^Elbereth/ it doesn't any more
16:45 <loli> gotcha, so always rub out the old message
16:46 <Umbire> Indeed
16:46 <qt_> yeah in 3.7 and variants based on it
16:46 <qt_> at least
16:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Scout, on T:45893
16:46 <Umbire> That's a 3.6ism actually
16:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:52197
16:48 <qt_> yeah you're right
16:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magswoman, on T:52235
16:52 <loli> I should always read if it's safe to eat a corpse before I do
16:53 <loli> I always make that mistake
16:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1991
16:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:52258
16:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 178673 points, T:22433, killed by a rock troll
16:58 <qt_> it would be interesting to be able to use wands to set traps, is that a mechanic that exists in any variants?
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16:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "very holy thoroughly historic unlocked rustproof unlabeled very figurine of a woodchuck named carl of junior, best burgher of yendor", on T:52266
16:59 <loli> qt_: I think in slex
16:59 <loli> there is a way to set traps
16:59 <loli> idk if it's a wand
16:59 <loli> but I do know of an item or was it an ability that let me
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:16300
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1881760 points, T:52268, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/xnethack/dumplog/1601819947.xnh.html
17:00 <qt_> it sounds interesting to be able to stick your wand of polymorph into the ground and sacrifice it to create a polytrap, etc
17:00 <amateurhour> gratz hothraxxa !
17:00 <aosdict> grats hothraxxa!
17:00 <loli> forbidden!
17:00 <qt_> hothraxxa: congrats!
17:00 <loli> congrats
17:00 <Umbire> GG Thrax
17:00 <aoei> well done hothraxxa
17:00 <aosdict> qt_: the unnethack way is generally to break the wand
17:00 <hothraxxa> thanks everyone. took way more tries than it should 
17:00 <loli> every time I see someone ascend I always see those purple worms
17:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2065 points, T:4277, slain by a hellbear
17:00 <amateurhour> it's a strategy known as purple rain loli
17:01 <loli> beautiful
17:01 <aosdict> amateurhour about to say something like "purple rain nerf incoming"
17:01 <amateurhour> you gonna copy evilhack's nerf aosdict?
17:01 <hothraxxa> k2 already did that
17:01 <qt_> what's the evilhack nerf?
17:01 <hothraxxa> although in evilhack, you should use black rain
17:01 <aosdict> I know better than to mess with a highly popular and fun strategy
17:01 <amateurhour> give most of the monsters in astral slow digestion rings
17:01 <amateurhour> so the worm spits them out
17:01 <Umbire> Quite common. You reverse genocide purple worms, then tame them via charm monster/a scroll of taming, then break a wand of teleport to send them all over the level
17:01 <hothraxxa> not most. about 50% i think
17:02 <Umbire> They'll digest and instakill most things not named Riders
17:02 <amateurhour> oh right, thought it was more for some reason
17:02 <hothraxxa> a magic harp is best. see previous wish
17:02 <aosdict> eugh, the flavor on that is... bad (pun not intended)
17:02 <Umbire> (which will in fact, kill them)
17:02 <loli> magic harp
17:02 <loli> does that allow you to tame?
17:02 <Umbire> Yes
17:02 <hothraxxa> indeed
17:03 <amateurhour> as is tradition K2 makes a change and aosdict hates it :^)
17:03 <aosdict> so the flavor is all the people milling around astral are like... "even odds this guy will burst in with the Amulet and start summoning purple worms at us, so here, take your complimentary slow digestion ring so it doesn't work"
17:03 <aoei> aosdict: yeah i get your point tbh
17:03 <qt_> magic harp, does that allow you to enter the underworld and retrieve your gf if you don't look behind you
17:03 <amateurhour> or maybe there's a limited supply of food aosdict and an abundance of slow digestion rings from pitiful adventureres
17:03 <aoei> a better nerf would be to make it harder for purple-worms to kill monsters across the boatrd
17:04 <aoei> so its no longer an instakill unless rider
17:04 <amateurhour> or just leave it and stop punishing every 200 iq idea
17:05 <aoei> LOL
17:05 <aoei> it's not *that* genius :P
17:05 <aoei> and it is a bit of a cheap hack
17:05 <hothraxxa> holy crap 25 games to ascend an orc rogue. that has to be my worst ever
17:05 <hothraxxa> at least i have all 13 roles in xnh now
17:06 <amateurhour> unsanctioned fun detected, I repeat, unsanctioned fun detected
17:06 <amateurhour> emergency nerf bats to be deployed
17:06 <mobileuser> congrats hothraxxa!
17:06 <hothraxxa> tnx
17:06 <{Demo}> yeah i agree that nerfing shit like that is against the spirit of nethack
17:06 <hothraxxa> developer's syndrome: a successful strategy exists, must... nerf...
17:07 <aoei> NERF EVERYTHING
17:07 <hothraxxa> i actually don't care what the developers do. it's their game, but if they make their game annoying to play, i just won't play it
17:08 <hothraxxa> i play *hack for fun
17:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:48179
17:10 <qt_> i play nethack to attract women
17:10 <amateurhour> is it working
17:11 <qt_> ....yes
17:11 <hothraxxa> you feel very attracted to the nethack adventurer. let me remove your pants
17:13 <qt_> they see me die so quickly that they realize they may not have another chance to smooch me
17:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:42293
17:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Acu Hum Mal Law), 162 points, T:679, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse
17:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:48283
17:21 <qt_> amateurhour: rotten way to go
17:21 <amateurhour> gottem
17:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Grayswandir", on T:18793
17:23 <amateurhour> Demo do acu need to follow the taboos after they kill the spirit?
17:23 <{Demo}> no
17:23 <amateurhour> oh I just realised you don't have their abilities after you kill them
17:23 <amateurhour> makes sense
17:24 <{Demo}> u dont have to keep taboos during either
17:24 <amateurhour> f da rules
17:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1634 points, T:2959, mowed down by a fire ant
17:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) genocided gremlins, on T:50738
17:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:19591
17:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 188 points, T:1544, overpowered by a corpseworm
17:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 31 points, T:128, killed by a boiling potion
17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:21033
17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:21034
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17:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:19282
17:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3309
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17:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 Blessed scrolls of charging", on T:19896
17:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:19900
17:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:19913
17:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Orb of Fate", on T:19920
18:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:21291
18:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:21291
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18:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a blast of disintegration), on T:21357
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed Spellbook of identify", on T:20407
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18:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] spleen (Fig Mal), 496 points, T:175, leprechaun
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18:09 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law), 1921 points, T:2168, killed by a warhorse of Odin
18:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:20574
18:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1194 points, T:4020, defeated by a giant rat
18:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:22020
18:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12447
18:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2661
18:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3281
18:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3845
18:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3903
18:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2426 points, T:4192, struck down by a Korrupt Kop
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18:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:22271
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 192 points, T:1669, sent to the grave by a pig
18:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 32 points, T:371, done in by a giant spider
18:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 124 points, T:553, slain by a newt
18:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 172 points, T:906, offed by a jackal
18:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 818 points, T:1662, dead jackal
18:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) was given Cleaver, on T:4809
18:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 1102 points, T:696, iron ball
18:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2771
18:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 275 points, T:223, imp
18:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [slshm] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 20243 points, T:4343, quit
18:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 281 points, T:327, snake
18:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3774
18:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:23809
18:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1428 points, T:3775, offed by a werebear
18:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23811
19:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 261 points, T:371, hobgoblin
19:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 406 points, T:1859, sent to the grave by a wererat
19:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 14 points, T:201, defeated by a sewer rat
19:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 66 points, T:91, leprechaun
19:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 3873 points, T:1564, killed by an arrow
19:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 817 points, T:2606, dismembered by an invisible ratman
19:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 336 points, T:1013, killed by a wand
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19:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 blue dragon scale mail", on T:8979
19:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Jed Ang Mal Law), 4811 points, T:1228, killed by a monster (invisible priest of the Force)
19:20 -!- cebolla is now known as spicycat
19:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 885 points, T:2410, sent to the grave by a parrot
19:23 <K2> [backscroll] astral is supposed to be the hardest level of the game. using purple rain in vanilla and most variants makes the end ridiculously easy. so in evilhack, giving some of the monsters there a chance to survive against an instadeath engulfing isnt a 'nerf', its helping to ensure the ending isnt a cakewalk
19:24 <K2> the arguments aginst this particular change are weak, and it reinforces my belief I did the right thing. so thank you :)
19:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] CeleryHall (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:25437
19:26 <amateurhour> lol
19:27 <K2> :)
19:28 <aosdict> K2: I don't really disagree with the general concept of giving it a (gentle) nerf, but it just strikes me as off that the monsters on astral are specifically anticipating possible purple rain shenanigans
19:29 <amateurhour> it's not their first rodeo
19:30 <aosdict> according to in-game lore, yes it is. no one in that particular universe has ever stolen the amulet from moloch and brought it to astral before
19:30 <amateurhour> what are all the adventurers there? aren't they meant to be failed adventurers?
19:30 <aosdict> although hm yes the other adventurers with fake amulets imply that's somehow possible
19:31 <amateurhour> I don't think arguing lore reasons is very persuasive for this particular case
19:31 <amateurhour> instead lets point fingers at K2 for denying unsanctioned fun :^)
19:31 * amateurhour points
19:32 <aosdict> well he seems to have killed the purple worm unsanctioned fun, but established black dragon sanctioned fun
19:32 <amateurhour> ...unless you're a knight
19:33 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:6450
19:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Val Fem), 796 points, T:1259, orc
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19:35 <aosdict> are knights incapable of black rain?
19:35 <K2> yup
19:35 <amateurhour> yes
19:35 <Umbire> Why's that.
19:35 <amateurhour> they can't tame dragons
19:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:10691
19:35 <K2> aosdict: if all the monsters were anticipating purple rain, they'd all have slow digestion rings. they dont
19:35 <Umbire> Oh, naturally.
19:36 <K2> its 1/3rd to 1/2
19:36 <K2> ^ of humanoids
19:36 <aosdict> oh, I was anticipating some weird logic like knights not being able to *genocide* and thus revgeno D
19:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Cav Mal), 249 points, T:390, acid blob
19:39 <K2> yeah not that
19:39 <K2> knights cant tame dragons (natural enemies). taken from the sporkhack knight patch
19:40 <amateurhour> YAEvilhackI: knights can't genocide
19:40 <K2> hah
19:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7105
19:40 <Umbire> Penalize it by permanently turning them chaotic.
19:40 <K2> speaking of purple rain, there's the master right there (oh6)
19:40 <K2> him and Grasshopper
19:40 <K2> heh
19:42 <aosdict> just so you know, I'm not going to pick up on "YAEvilhackI" but it seems like you're using it as a joke tag so doesn't matter
19:43 <K2> hahahah
19:44 <amateurhour> YAYANII: Support YA[variant]I tags and automatically tag them with the correct variant
19:45 <Umbire> Lmao
19:45 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:11604
19:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 221 points, T:1181, dismembered by a cow
19:50 <Umbire> I knew giving cows tools was a mistake!
19:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 161 points, T:494, murdered by a kobold
19:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "test", on T:5364
19:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:12475
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19:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 6100 points, T:5577, killed by a fire ant
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20:00 <K2> hothraxxa congrats on your xnethack ascension
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20:01 <aosdict> ok now I just wanna see if "YAYANII" even counts. my guess is no
20:02 -!- unsound2 has joined #hardfought
20:02 <aosdict> nope
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20:03 <aosdict> wait yes it does. forgot the parser doesn't count the current day by default
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20:04 <amateurhour> excellent, so that one shall reach the archives
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20:06 <aosdict> no it won't
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20:06 <aosdict> meta discussion about the harvesting of ideas isn't about the game
20:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 161 points, T:666, eliminated by a goblin
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20:12 <aosdict> is anyone else coming to debate club tonight
20:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Sam Mal), 4491 points, T:2863, orc
20:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:15351
20:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:10660
20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 godhands", on T:15537
20:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11203
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20:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 nodensfork", on T:15819
20:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 151 points, T:568, killed by a water moccasin
20:50 <Menchers> !gt {
20:50 <Menchers> ☹
20:50 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Fem Neu), 545104 points, T:16098, killed by an ettin zombie, while reading a book
20:50 <rld> <@microlance> lul
20:50 <moon-child> !gt ⌠
20:50 <rld> <@riker> fountains r dangerous
20:55 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1683 points, T:4070, killed by a black unicorn
21:02 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 940 points, T:1335, killed by an Elvenking
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21:04 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 82 points, T:315, killed by a black pudding
21:05 * arahael is too damn impatient today. :(
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21:05 <Umbire> RIP
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21:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) attained the rank of Knight of the Skies, on T:47282
21:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) killed Medusa, on T:47421
21:30 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3530
21:31 <arahael> Ah, so this is mine town. ;)
21:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 1955 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23350
21:43 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3717
21:46 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3852
21:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 234724 points, T:25129, killed by Vlad the Impaler, while being frightened to death
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21:55 <Neko-chan> hi can someone help me with a wish for splicehack?
21:55 <Neko-chan> I need to wish for some good dragonmaster armor
22:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:19539
22:01 <Neko-chan> oh gosh it's going to announce it too? sheesh
22:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "the eye of the aethiopica", on T:19539
22:02 <aosdict> do you have speed boots? always a good choice
22:03 <Neko-chan> I have speed boots in spades
22:03 <Neko-chan> I could just get GOP but really I'm so hungry for armor atm
22:03 <Umbire> Announcer bots are common for servers as big as hardfought
22:03 <Neko-chan> I have mithril splint mail and its just too heavy
22:04 <Neko-chan> Umbire: Yeah, that makes sense. The #nethack one just doesn't do wishes and I tend to make a lot of embarassing mistakes when it comes to wishing
22:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:54000
22:04 <rld> <@riker> when in doubt, default to asc dumplogs
22:04 <rld> <@riker> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/splicehack/dumplog/1535840624.splice.txt
22:07 <Neko-chan> Plastic studded armor?! that can't be the best option
22:07 <Neko-chan> This shadow material seems really cool
22:07 <Neko-chan> Can you wish for objects made of certain materials?
22:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "the staff of aesculapius", on T:19548
22:11 <Umbire> It's not the "everyday" kind of plastic if that's what you're thinking. :B
22:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:19551
22:12 <Neko-chan> Cause I'm reading the code and my impression is that it's an applicable option for any material made from iron, source https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/blob/fdeef6c222637246a87c649b0fc059aec3e6de13/src/mkobj.c#L3207
22:12 <rld> <@riker> I believe the trick is a bunch of warp material scrolls
22:12 <rld> <@riker> tha'ts for normal spawns. chekcing if you can wish for mats
22:13 <rld> <@riker> hm it seems like it should
22:13 <Neko-chan> Well, step one is "if the wish would work, is this a valid option?" and if so, the object being able to be made as SHADOW would imply it could be generated from a wish that way. So it is a good start
22:14 <Neko-chan> and if any metal armor can be made from the shadowspun material then +2 greased fixed shadowspun plate mail is a vaild choice
22:14 <Neko-chan> which would be pretty awesome
22:14 <rld> <@riker> man i wish i could build spl locally lmao
22:14 <qt_> material wishes are limited to wizard mode iirc
22:14 <qt_> in spl
22:14 <Neko-chan> nooo
22:15 <rld> <@riker> c if (material > 0 && !otmp->oartifact && wizard)
22:15 <rld> <@riker> wizmode only, yep. there's a commented out case marked as to review in the future for balance
22:17 <Neko-chan> Alas, my heart is breaking
22:18 <qt_> I think it's inherited from xnethack and aosdict's original material patch
22:19 <rld> <@riker> hm. america's current vice president has a fly just vibing on his head on live television
22:20 <qt_> oh I should watch this
22:20 <Neko-chan> hmmm I see, thank you. 
22:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 84 points, T:112, killed by a sewer rat
22:20 <rld> <@riker> aw. the fly abandoned him
22:21 <qt_> we have no more complicated or consequential foreign relationship than the one with china?
22:21 <qt_> uhhh
22:21 <qt_> albania
22:21 <qt_> duh
22:22 <rld> <@riker> hey fun fact the albanian population doesn't really like the US in general
22:22 <rld> <@riker> source: ån albanian national ex
22:24 <aosdict> @riker wait I turned off the debate and missed this what??
22:24 <rld> <@riker> a fly just landed on pence's head
22:25 <rld> <@riker> and just kinda chilled there for what felt like a minute and a half?
22:25 <rld> <@riker> doing a watch party w/ some friends and we were starting to take bets on how long when it abandoned him :(
22:25 <rld> <riker> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/763587890906529812/ri1xjfqj6sr51.png
22:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 425 points, T:399, killed by a cryonic corpse
22:26 <aosdict> well there's the meme moment of the night
22:27 <qt_> https://0x0.st/i00h.png
22:28 <rld> <@riker> i'm sending that to him thank you qt_
22:29 <qt_> glad I could help
22:30 <qt_> we destroyed the isis caliphate -- kurds owned
22:30 <qt_> take that kurds
22:32 <rld> <@riker> we are the most freest country ever, this is why we have the highest incarceration rate in the world
22:34 <qt_> did they have these glass barriers during the previous debate?
22:34 <qt_> I didn't watch it
22:34 <rld> <@riker> I do'nt think so - I do'nt remember there being any
22:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:61908
22:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Val Hum Fem Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:61909
22:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3772
22:36 <qt_> lol, it's inexplicable but it's explainable?
22:36 <qt_> what does mike pence think `inexplicable' means
22:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:14096
22:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was given Cleaver, on T:3164
22:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4184
22:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Aegis", on T:605
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 36389 points, T:14318, killed by a stone giant, while sleeping
22:45 <oh6> now, why did I think they wouldn't zap a wand at me at point-blank range?
22:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:36961
22:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) made their first wish - "Blessed Greased fixed The Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:47837
22:47 <Neko-chan> I'm boring ok. My new plan is to just make shadowspun armor
22:48 <rld> <@riker> warp armor scrolls may be your best bet
22:48 <rld> <@riker> find something you like - and that woudl have a decent weigth when lighter
22:50 <Neko-chan> Yeah, I know where a transmuter monster is, and I have a few pieces of plate mail I gathered after I first heard of the scroll. So it will work out, just no immediate gratification
22:50 <Neko-chan> just a boring wish cause I nearly always play wiz
22:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 10840 points, T:5514, killed by a Woodland-elf
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22:54 <arahael> Woah.  I have a tame Hezrou as a pet.
22:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Captain, on T:42937
22:56 <Umbire> Not unusual.
22:56 <Umbire> Pet probably stepped on a polytrap.
22:57 <arahael> Umbire: I wasn't even expecting a polytrap, but yes, definitely.  Also a tame water troll.
22:58 <Umbire> Troll is on the better side imo, any pet that can revive is cool.
22:58 <qt_> who is the guy who keeps hooting during the debate
22:58 <Umbire> Granted they might not res tame, but idk.
22:58 <arahael> Could be interesting to find out.
22:58 <arahael> Hezrou is relatively powerful, but annoying.
22:59 <Umbire> Annoying how.
22:59 <Umbire> Besides being a bit slow.
22:59 <arahael> Lots of poison clouds
22:59 <arahael> Bah, just died.  Too low-powered, and a fire elemental just appeared.
22:59 <qt_> That's a new thing right?
22:59 <qt_> the poison clouds for hezrou
23:00 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 4002 points, T:4992, killed by a fire elemental
23:00 <arahael> qt_: Not sure.
23:01 <arahael> Hezrou is also annoyingi as he tends to hide in his clouds rather than attack.
23:01 <Umbire> Oh yeah, the stench.
23:01 <Umbire> To match with the flavor text.
23:02 <qt_> I think it's a new thing in 3.7
23:02 <Umbire> Yes.
23:02 <arahael> "flavour text"?
23:02 <Umbire> Yeah, you can get info about any dungeon feature or creature just by...
23:02 <Umbire> What was the key it's been so long.
23:03 <Umbire> [?] was involved, I think.
23:03 <qt_> ; then select the monster them hit :
23:04 <Umbire> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/NetHack_encyclopedia
23:04 <qt_> or / then ? and type in hezrou
23:04 <Umbire> [/] is the "what is" key.
23:04 <Umbire> ; just far looks and tells you what a glyph is/can be.
23:04 <arahael> Ah, I just stopped at "hezrou", I didn't read the desctiption.
23:05 <qt_> Yeah, but if you're dealing with a hezrou it will print the same text as explicitly looking it up in the encyclopedia does
23:05 <qt_> It does rely on a hezrou existing on the screen, the / then ? way is definitely more general
23:05 <Umbire> Oh, neat.
23:05 <aosdict>  /nhezrou<Enter> <-- fastest
23:06 <qt_> Is /n the same as /? aosdict?
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23:11 <aosdict> probably
23:12 <aosdict> it used to be listed as something in 3.4.3 but the key still works
23:12 <arahael> A bug, perhaps.
23:12 <qt_> yeah I think it's the same
23:12 <qt_> based on pager.c line 1254
23:13 <qt_> looks like they changed the 'standard' key to '?' but deliberately retained 'n' as an alternative
23:13 <qt_> similarly retained 'y' as an alternative to '/'
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23:14 <qt_> > 'y' and 'n' to keep backwards compatibility with previous versions: "Specify unknown object by cursor?"
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23:15 <qt_> btw
23:16 <qt_> what connection to nethack does this have
23:16 <qt_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Shuck
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23:16 <qt_> does it appear in a particular variant? is it some role-based thing?
23:16 <aosdict> what on the nethack wiki has anything to do with that?
23:16 <qt_> look at track 2 of this release https://www.discogs.com/Othin-Spake-The-Nethack-Dictionary/master/386383
23:17 <qt_> everything else makes sense to me but track 2
23:18 <qt_> clear tourist bias though lol
23:19 <qt_> it definitely seems like something that should be included in some variant, but as you said I don't see any mention of it on the wiki
23:20 <aosdict> dnh seems most likely but if they don't have it, they don't have it
23:21 <{Demo}> death dogs from slam?
23:21 <rld> <@riker> what did dnh do
23:21 <{Demo}> slam has death dogs
23:21 <qt_> they exist in slex
23:21 <{Demo}> dnh has hounds of tindalos but those aren't close to that I don't think
23:21 <rld> <@riker> dnh evil dogs are just tindalos hounds which are different and also not on the wiki
23:22 <rld> <@riker> no hounds of tindalos have their own wikiepdia page too iirc
23:22 <rld> <@riker> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hounds_of_Tindalos
23:22 <qt_> 'Killed by a monster (black shuck of Moloch), while helpless.'
23:22 <qt_> this is from a slex dumplog
23:22 <aosdict> stop trying to make "slam" a thing. it's not a thing
23:22 <rld> <@riker> qt_ what doesn't slex have
23:22 <aosdict> qt_: but amy may well have seen that track title and created a monster for it
23:22 <qt_> good question
23:22 <rld> <@riker> why slam? I liked slem better
23:23 <qt_> it seems weird that everything in the album would be from vanilla except track 2 though
23:23 <qt_> pretty good album btw
23:23 <rld> <@riker> lmao logs show pavel saying it once, umbire saying it once, and then just a ton of suzune saying it
23:23 <aosdict> why does everyone want to shorten slash'em to half the characters??
23:24 <rld> <@riker> slm
23:24 <aosdict> it's 2020, bytes are cheap
23:24 <Umbire> Maybe an analogue to the old pet hellhound Rodney had?
23:24 <arahael> Woah! An early wand of polymorph!
23:24 <{Demo}> slam is cannon
23:24 <{Demo}> I'm not trying to make it a thing
23:24 <{Demo}> it is cannon
23:24 <qt_> lol black shuck has field recordings of dogs barking in it
23:24 <{Demo}> therefore already a thing
23:24 <qt_> based
23:24 <Umbire> slam cannon
23:25 <{Demo}> slam is what warren cheung intended slashem to be called for short
23:25 <{Demo}> and no one listened or cared
23:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) killed the Ancient Brain, on T:49612
23:25 <rld> <@riker> i bet you also use a hard g in gid
23:25 <rld> <@riker> *gif
23:25 <rld> <@riker> wait, the creator says jif doesn't he? nvm
23:25 <qt_> isn't gif ``intended'' to be pronounced with a soft g?
23:25 <qt_> yeah that's what I thought too
23:25 <rld> <@riker> yea no ignore me
23:25 <Umbire> I say it right.
23:25 <Umbire> :]
23:25 <{Demo}> slam is the most legitimate shortening of slashem possible
23:25 <rld> <@riker> i used google after the fact
23:25 <{Demo}> even if it sucks
23:26 <rld> <@riker> slashm
23:26 <arahael> What about '\m'?
23:26 <aosdict> gif -> "jhrif"
23:26 <qt_> {Demo}: what about sahm
23:26 <{Demo}> I like slshm
23:26 <rld> <@riker> ok wait no i like arahael's idea
23:26 <{Demo}> slem makes me laugh
23:26 <aosdict> no, that's backslash'em
23:26 <rld> <@riker> \em i think though
23:26 <{Demo}> and slam is just horrible
23:26 <aosdict> you want /m
23:26 <rld> <@riker> ok fine /em
23:26 <qt_> lol /— is good
23:26 <qt_> em dash
23:26 <{Demo}> OK /m is worse
23:26 <{Demo}> good work
23:27 <aosdict> https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2473 <-- obligatory
23:27 <rld> <@riker> <aosdict> ok we're done here
23:27 <qt_> this album is really weirdly good for apparently being a nethack novelty album
23:28 <qt_> at least it coincides with my personal taste pretty nicely
23:29 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3713
23:30 <qt_> sort of a point between ornette coleman and peter brotzmann or borbetomagus or some other `noisy' free jazz band
23:30 <arahael> Oh, darn.  Accidentally ate a were-winter-wolf.
23:31 <Umbire> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
23:31 <arahael> Not feverish, though, oddly.  Just now have the cannibal thing. :/
23:31 <Umbire> He was people!
23:31 <arahael> Indeed.
23:31 <arahael> I thought it wasn't the were creature, just one of the 'help'.
23:31 <Umbire> Always double check your plate.
23:32 <arahael> What do you mean?
23:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1289
23:32 <rld> <@riker> double check your food (what's on your "plate") before you eat
23:32 <qt_> no, check your plate armor after you eat to make sure you didn't get ketchup on it
23:32 <qt_> duh
23:32 <arahael> Heh, ok. :)
23:33 <Umbire> :b
23:33 <Umbire> :B *
23:33 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3792
23:33 <arahael> Well, that answers that.
23:34 <Umbire> Always double check your message log also.
23:34 <Umbire> Werefoo always confer lycanthropy when eaten.
23:34 <arahael> I did, it did not have the "You feel feverish" thing.
23:35 <arahael> I guess it's not required if you somehow know you're actually _eating_ a were-creature.
23:35 <Andrio> Maybe you already got bit.
23:36 <arahael> Hmm.  Well, I guess I'm lucky it's a werewolf.  Actually, that reminds me... Why am I a *werewolf*?
23:36 <arahael> I specifically ate the ice wolf.
23:36 <Umbire> Wolf is the base creature.
23:36 <arahael> Ah, I think I know what happened.
23:37 <arahael> I found the werewolf corpse. The help must've *included* a were-ice-wolf.
23:37 <Umbire> It sounds like you mistook a werewolf corpse for a werewinter wolf.
23:37 <Umbire> I mean, bad decision for food either way.
23:37 <arahael> No, I think there were both.
23:37 <Umbire> No, I know there were both.
23:37 <Umbire> I'm saying you might've confused one with the other.
23:38 <arahael> It's possible I was already bit, but I definitely didn't confuse the corpses.
23:38 <Umbire> Which is probably a moot point in practice since I don't think therianthropy in variants is THAT thorough.
23:38 <Umbire> Mm, probably bitten and infected then.
23:38 <arahael> The ice wolf was definitely a were-creature, though - I got the "cannibal" message.
23:39 <arahael> It's been interesting.
23:39 <qt_> maybe bc you were already a werewolf and you were a cannibal for eating a wolf??
23:39 <qt_> I didn't think were-winter-wolves were a thing in vanilla but I might be wrong or out of date
23:39 <arahael> qt_: Ooh? I can't eat wolves either now
23:39 <arahael> ?
23:40 <qt_> idk that was really just a guess, I'm sure someone else can confirm one way or another
23:40 <arahael> Hmm, second transform, this time I ripped the robe.
23:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:13824
23:41 <qt_> does anyone here have a facebook account?
23:43 <Umbire> Oh.
23:43 <Umbire> OH, duh.
23:43 <Umbire> Yeah, once you're infected, you're considered a werecreature already.
23:44 <Umbire> And lycans can't eat the animal form they use, basically.
23:44 <Umbire> (without being considered cannibals)
23:44 <Umbire> e.g. wererats can't eat other rats, werejackals can't eat other canines, etc.
23:45 <qt_> lol this fucking label makes it so hard to find their email
23:45 <qt_> their press page just says `Press: Selected press'
23:45 <qt_> not a link or anything, just that plaintext
23:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2187
23:47 <arahael> I assume prayer will fix this, but is it safe to pray after becoming a canibal? I suspect not.
23:48 <qt_> prayer should fix cannibalism, I think you'll be OK if you kill a bunch of guys or sacrifice some first
23:48 <qt_> fix lycanthropy**
23:49 <arahael> Hmm, the nearest altar is 3 levels above.
23:49 <arahael> A bit too far.
23:50 <Umbire> Yeah, you're gonna have to find a way to stash your stuff and then come back for it.
23:50 <Umbire> The upside of lycanthropy is free pets.
23:51 <arahael> Indeed, I've made a bunch already.  Considering zapping a wand of poly at them but not sure if I should waste a wish like that.
23:51 <Umbire> Wait, you wished for one?
23:52 <arahael> Oops, no, what was I thinking.  A slip of the tongue.
23:52 <arahael> I don't think I should waste a *zap* for that.
23:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 629 points, T:1875, killed by a kitten
23:55 <qt_> does anyone here speak french
23:55 <Umbire> Nope.
23:55 <aosdict> a bit, from school
23:55 <jonadab> I speak, like, six or eight words of French.
23:55 <aosdict> not fluently, but enough to cobble together a rough sentence
23:55 <arahael> I know how to say "bon appetite".
23:56 <arahael> And "pomme d'terre".
23:56 <jonadab> I can say "bonjour" and "je ne sais quoi".
23:56 <spicycat> omelete du chat
23:56 <jonadab> And "c'est la vie"
23:57 <aosdict> I memorized how to say "I know only a little French", which has remained accurate.
23:58 <jonadab> Heh, I should memorize how to say "I hardly speak any [language] at all" in like sixty languages.  That would be a fun skill to have.
23:59 <qt_> well, if anyone can point out problems with this before I send it to the label that represented the band behind that Nethack album let me know
23:59 <qt_> https://pastebin.com/cyUrXXCp