00:00 <@banjoe> ? 00:00 <@banjoe> why would you need cold resist for hell 00:00 Ice demons and the like. 00:01 <@plisp> asmodeus and liches come to mind 00:01 <@banjoe> asmodeus can be bribed 00:01 <@banjoe> liches tho 00:02 <@banjoe> liches are just shitter regardless 00:02 <@banjoe> ah yes spawn minotaur next to me thank you 00:03 <@riker> just get crowned 4head 00:03 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 37 points, T:120, killed by trying to drink lava 00:03 <@banjoe> after i entered hell i dont think i engraved elbereth or prayed for the rest of game 00:04 <@plisp> they don't actually work on hell, so gj 00:04 <@riker> yeah, which is why i think it's weird that people don't get crowned super often 00:04 <@banjoe> it was just habit 00:04 <@banjoe> removed the option afterwards 00:04 <@riker> I understand it for beginners who use prayer a lot, and I guess priests if 3.7 mitre allows prayer/turning in hell 00:05 I have dried up three fountains trying to uncurse these stupid arrows 00:05 <@banjoe> dont worry 00:05 <@riker> but like, how often do you need to pray once youv'e made it into hell anyway? 00:05 <@banjoe> i tried up atleast 8 trying to make excalibur 00:05 <@banjoe> when it already existed 00:05 <@banjoe> @riker hairy minotaur encounter 00:06 <@riker> in hell? 00:06 <@riker> can't pray, unless that's vlad's 00:06 <@banjoe> theres like a minotaur on every bloody nomral hell level 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4718 00:06 <@riker> yeah but i mean pray doesn't work there anyway so being crowned wouldn't hurt that 00:07 <@riker> so unless vlad or a dude in vlad's is giving you a hard time 00:07 FINALLY decursed it 00:07 <@banjoe> usually if youve got to hell youll have most of necesary resistance 00:07 <@banjoe> because youre not deader than doorknob 00:09 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 395 points, T:1232, sent to the grave by a giant bat 00:09 <@plisp> haha past the dark one and didn't realise 00:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:23725 00:09 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Rog Gno Nbn Neu), 0 points, T:20, eliminated by a fire elemental of Mog, while praying 00:10 <@plisp> two magic missiles later... 00:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23726 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 423 points, T:1702, killed by a coyote 00:11 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 4 points, T:99, sent to the next life by a water demon 00:12 <@banjoe> this guy has a death wish dam 00:12 sent to the next life? 00:12 <@riker> splicehack adds a couple different death livelogs 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh13d] ezion (Val Fem), 70 points, T:1105, starvation 00:13 <@riker> https://paste.ee/p/k7LNo 00:13 <@plisp> is it worth crowning on wizard? @riker at the aligned altar in quest 00:13 <@plisp> I probably don't have max luck yet 00:13 <@riker> chaotic or neutral? 00:13 <@plisp> chaotic 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 213 points, T:1006, zombified by a diseased kobold corpse 00:13 <@plisp> castle is done 00:13 <@riker> are you having intrinsic issues, and do you have stormy already? 00:14 <@riker> I mean - it can take a bit to get crowned sometimes 00:14 <@plisp> oh ok never mind 00:14 <@riker> i'd like, pray at the altar for gift purposes real quick before bailing 00:14 <@plisp> is +2 magicbane not good enough? 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Bar Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5333 00:16 <@plisp> oh no 00:16 owie 00:16 <@plisp> what are the chances 00:16 I'm a wererat 00:16 and team a is on the level 00:16 <@plisp> Elbereth is fine 00:16 <@riker> +2 magicbane is probabyly fine I was just curious if you had stormy already. 00:16 <@riker> since i'ts not unusual to have it as a chaotic wiz due to sacfesting (name orcist + sting and go to town on the altar) 00:17 <@plisp> huh 00:17 <@plisp> I always seem to get magicbane 00:17 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18 . 00:18 oh, I had wolfsbane 00:18 lol, cures rat lycanthropy too 00:18 Wizards always get Magicbane as their first gift. 00:18 nice 00:19 Indeed~ 00:19 It cures any lycanthropy 00:19 <@plisp> hmm is it possible to teleport out of the wizard quest after getting the eye 00:19 It's all the same 00:19 far as the game cares 00:19 Uh, probably levelporting? 00:19 Iunno for sure 00:20 <@plisp> hmm my laziness is not worth marker charges 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 8076 points, T:5459, killed by a soldier ant 00:20 ow 00:20 :( 00:20 not careful enough 00:20 <@plisp> rip 00:21 if I'd just Elberethed once more 00:21 ah well 00:21 <@plisp> soldier ants are ridiculous until you're fast 00:21 anyways, that bones level has one soldier ant and one Yeenoghu on it 00:22 <@riker> peaceful yeenoghu at least/ 00:22 <@riker> ? 00:22 <@plisp> gee thanks 00:22 yeah 00:23 there is a WoW on the level 00:23 does that sweeten the deal :P 00:23 <@plisp> OH in that case 00:23 <@plisp> you only wished once? 00:23 yeah 00:23 <@plisp> speed boots were probably worth 00:23 just the wish from engrave testing it 00:23 Go team a. 00:24 Also have fun figuring out if the wand's cursed or not. 00:24 <@plisp> charging scrolls first is probably a good idea 00:24 don't think it was in my inventory 00:24 If you're not about to eat shit, anyway. 00:24 You don't need it to be. 00:24 dropped a bunch of stuff in the town 00:24 <@plisp> this is minetown right 00:24 Oh you mean-- Oh. 00:24 <@plisp> altar should let you 00:24 Orc Town, right? 00:24 ? can stuff be cursed in bones if it isn't in your inv? 00:24 <@plisp> yea haha 00:24 and yeah 00:25 Nah, I assumed it was inventory. 00:25 all the orcs except for two or thre peacefuls are dead 00:25 Only the stuff on your person, everything else is same BUC as when you died. 00:25 The million zorkmid question is whether or not the demon lords stay peaceful 00:25 And if not, can whoever finds it deal with Yeenoghu 00:26 <@plisp> that's a real gamble 00:27 There's a used-once WoW on the floor though, meaning it's only mostly insane instead of completely so. 00:27 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:28 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 00:37 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 170 points, T:1422, killed by a shotgun shell 00:38 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 7 points, T:49, killed by a falling object 00:47 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:47 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 00:52 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 408 points, T:1573, killed by a dagger 00:59 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 44 points, T:456, killed by trying to drink lava 01:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 8 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:25353 01:05 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 200 points, T:535, dismembered by a dwarf 01:06 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 14 points, T:103, killed by kicking a tree 01:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Kyriea (dbanethacker) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 42901 points, T:4749, killed by a mountain centaur 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4337 01:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Bourne (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 303 points, T:976, killed by Dirk's ghost, while being terrified of a ghost 01:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:33 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu) attained the rank of Page of Wings, on T:4063 01:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6970 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6970 01:53 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 653 points, T:1656, killed by a gray ooze 01:55 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 4393 points, T:5932, sent to the next life by a wax golem, while frozen by a potion 01:58 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 364 points, T:901, killed by a gnome lord 02:03 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 02:05 -!- Umbire has quit [*.net *.split] 02:05 -!- kelamir[m] has quit [*.net *.split] 02:05 -!- |aaron has quit [*.net *.split] 02:05 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [*.net *.split] 02:05 -!- dopplergange has quit [*.net *.split] 02:05 -!- MaryHadalittle has quit [*.net *.split] 02:05 -!- dopplerg- has joined #hardfought 02:05 -!- |aaron has joined #hardfought 02:05 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 02:10 -!- kelamir[m] has joined #hardfought 02:10 -!- MaryHadalittle has joined #hardfought 02:10 -!- kelamir[m] has quit [Changing host] 02:10 -!- kelamir[m] has joined #hardfought 02:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1714 points, T:2573, poisoned by a rotted giant ant corpse, while helpless 02:23 -!- bugsniper__ has joined #hardfought 02:25 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:45834 02:32 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1267 02:32 Just peaking. 02:32 This game has a tshirt!!! 02:33 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 02:34 And at $4, a bargain. 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 319 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46069 02:42 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Zertrin (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1457 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:12583 02:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:13022 02:52 -!- bugsniper__ is now known as bug_sniper 03:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3822 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:15202 03:18 +Beholder | [02:52:06] [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 962066 points, T:66388, poisoned by Demogorgon 03:18 NOOOO 03:18 RIP arahael :< 03:18 aoei: I know! :( 03:19 poor thing 03:19 aoei: Turns out demogorgon wasnt the only problem. 03:19 * aoei pats arahael 03:19 but you were doing so well! 03:19 and Demo is really hard 03:19 very good first post-castle run 03:19 kudos 03:19 aoei: Thanks. :) Demo is insane, but plus *two* other boss-demons... 03:19 arahael: oh? so waht happen? 03:20 <@plisp> yeenoghu and orcus 03:21 aoei: And then I didn't realise the level I was in was no-dig. 03:22 and you didn't go there armed with a rubber chicken? 03:23 mobileuser: No, in retrospect, a bad decision - I did try to write the cursed geno but the marker ran out. 03:23 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 03:23 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Drauglir, on T:26766 03:24 you could also have explored the rest of gehennom until finding a cockatrice by chance 03:24 mobileuser: A pithy excuse, really, as I had the other one, but thought "Hmm, maybe I could manage it if my AC was like, AC 30, and had a moat of blobs, broke the wand of telo, etc" 03:24 mobileuser: Yes, also a better option, though I'd then have to carry it. 03:25 with teleport control and cursed teleport scrolls, you are just 1 step away from (almost) every other level :-) 03:26 I _definitely_ need to play with that. 03:28 arahael: oof 03:28 its true waht mobileuser says 03:28 unfortunately its easy to forget about the most efficient tactics like that 03:29 -!- jilles_ is now known as jilles 03:29 Indeed. And I was so sure that the blobs would work. 03:29 Might've gotten over-confident with the AC, too, but ultimately, what did me in was the sickness. 03:29 mobe are you ready for some epic evil aoei giant monk action 03:30 i think im still at the bit where i have to run away from darkmines because that's terrifying 03:30 Haha. :) 03:30 I'm already started a new monk game. 03:30 And this one, believe me, will have *none* of the mistakes of the previous ones. ;) (Ha) 03:30 my quick glance at scrollback suggets you started more than one already :d 03:31 aoei: Just priming the bones. ;) (No, not really, but I did get one of them as bones!) 03:31 <@dexsg> Darn, rip. It was fun reading the dramatic situation. I thought you were gonna make it. 03:31 hahaa 03:31 I now has a spare robe. :) 03:31 dexsg: It was a fun game for sure! 03:31 lol dexsg 03:31 aoei, good luck! won't have time to watch this morning... 03:32 arahael's Monk will live on in the memories of amusing stuff in hardfought IRC logs 03:32 Haha. :) 03:32 <@dexsg> Three demon princes -- including Demo-- on your first visit to Gehennom... 03:32 and exciting/dramatic 03:32 yeah super unlucky dexsg 03:32 i still haven't read all the scrollback but im highly intrigued 03:32 mobileuser: aw :( fair play 03:33 do you have to do productive life things 03:33 aoei: I had just found poly, too. 03:33 oooo dang 03:35 dexsg: I consider myself a somewhat seasoned player, and I don't think I've ever even encountered the Demogorgon 03:35 aoei: It was because I didn't kill Orcus as soon as possible. 03:36 I don't always kill Orcus that fast 03:36 sometimes I bring him downstairs and fight him in melee 03:36 <@dexsg> aoei: I've only had 6 or so games go to Gehennom but I've never seen him either 03:36 dexsg: try 70 03:37 <@dexsg> have had Juiblex gated in by a water demon early on though... 03:37 seriously encountering Demo is really, really rare 03:37 arahael: just appreciate how absurdly unlucky you were 03:37 aoei: And I managed to escape him once. 03:37 oh yeah i think i had taht once too dexsg, that's annoying 03:37 aoei: I think escaping him was pure chance, actually. 03:37 either way 03:37 F 03:38 <@dexsg> big F 03:38 aoei: Which reminds me, actually I think it might be best to fight Orcus on his level, and not in wizard level. It's nice to have a diggable level as an escape. 03:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:42 eh depends 03:42 wiztop isn't necessarily always directly below 03:42 tho that is a fairly common config 03:43 and its nice (imo) to be able to lure him down a floor to fight him on the stairs 03:43 unless you have a c corpse to one-shot him with 03:43 Woah, why is the minetown priest angry with me? 03:43 idk do you have conflict ring on? 03:43 Nope. 03:43 does ; show them as peaceful or not? 03:43 I got to the alter and tried to talk to them - but they didn't wnat anything to do with me! 03:44 And is now attacking me. 03:44 wth 03:44 was it a bones level? 03:44 yeah it may be bones 03:44 It's my second time there, curiously. 03:44 Maybe I somehow attacked the priest, but... I can't imagine how. 03:45 Game logs does not show I attacked. 03:46 Maybe it was because I was standing on the altar when I tried to talk to her? 03:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 17055 points, T:4952, killed by a priestess of Shan Lai Ching 03:47 Weird. 03:49 huh 03:49 F 03:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 209 points, T:357, killed by a gas spore's explosion 03:53 arahael maybe you stood on a scroll of scare monster without realising it 03:53 but that shouldn't make peacefuls hostile should it? 03:53 And the effect should have stopped when I got off it. 03:54 if you chat to a priest while standing on scare monster they get angry 03:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:54 ohhhh 03:54 maybe that was it then 03:55 stand on altar, drop stuff to BUC, one was scare mon, attempt to donate at bad moment 03:55 yeah 03:55 possible chain of events 03:55 That might've been it. :( 03:55 F 03:55 arahael: NetHack is a cruel game :P 03:56 Heh, yeah, I should've survived even that if I thought slightly harder, though! 03:56 boooo a nymph stole my book 03:56 not having any range weapons sucks 03:57 No boulders or even rocks? 03:57 hrm maybe i should have picked up some rocks 03:57 not seen any boulders yet 03:57 NO WAIT 03:57 there is a boulder 03:58 im just not used to playing giant so wasn't properly on the lookout for them 03:58 LOL I managed to punch a yellow light to death before it could blind me 03:58 awesome 03:58 giant monks are fucking cool lmao 03:58 damn i just picked up a fuckin' boulder :D 03:59 aoei: :) 03:59 if I see that nymph it's getting squished 04:00 Hmm, deep trapdoor. Straight down to dlvl 11 in mines. 04:01 Without a robe, of course. 04:01 you're on vacation right arahael 04:01 do you normally job tho 04:02 aoei: Yes, I'm a software dev. 04:02 Though maybe I should do nethacking in the mornings, or something. I waste a whole hour in my mornings. 04:02 lol seems like half the people here are 04:02 (working in software somehow) 04:02 It's freenode, it seems to attract a certain... client. 04:02 also nh is a v nerdy game 04:03 * aoei is currently unemployed but wants to work in software too 04:05 If you have the skills, it's probably a good time to get looking. The market has been... Disrupted, to say the least, with all the covid. But then again, there's been a lot of layoffs as well in general. 04:07 Can I "safely" fight a 'trice, without a robe? 04:08 i think gloves are the important thing 04:08 Or is nude fighting with trices OK as long as you've covered all your "important bits" (aka, the hands) - ah, thanks aoei. 04:09 and a lizard corpse or potion of acid or being able to pray 04:09 I can pray. 04:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 94 points, T:290, killed by a falling rock 04:10 arahael: I have no formal training or professional experience (unless you count some python scripts i wrote during my time as a doctoral researcher), but I do have some skill and experience with several languages 04:11 aoei: I've never really done an interview (I used different pathways), but I would suggest that your time spent as a doctoral researcher, and how you've applied python to it, may well be relevant. 04:11 arahael: quite possible, but I'm way better at coding and more knowledgeable than many of the PhD students I met who also learned some python during PhD time 04:11 not sure how to sell that on application/CV exactly 04:11 but it's the truth 04:12 aoei: Can you get referees? Join a local programming community? 04:12 maybe arahael 04:12 aoei: Eg, a python user's group, linux user's group, etc. 04:12 I hadn't thought about that 04:13 right now I'm mainly hanging out with fedora coreos people on Freenode, and trying to figure out how I can contribute to their project 04:13 aoei: Also good, but you want "human" networking. It's one area I've always struggled (being deaf and less confident in that area). 04:13 I also learned a bunch of stuff about docker/podman container systems and VM/cloud infrastructure 04:13 arahael: right 04:13 Very trendy. 04:13 arahael: I was going to Rust meetups here in Hamburg before the pandemic thing happened 04:14 unsure whether those are back on 04:14 i could look into it, but rona is also back on in town now, so... 04:15 aoei: Ugh, yeah. The 'rona is seriously bad, avoid catching that. Luckily it's on it's way to being eradicated in my country, so things are cautiously opening up again. 04:15 <@plisp> personal projects? 04:15 we had a very, very low rate of spread here for a couple of months 04:16 plisp? 04:16 so they relaxed the rules a bit for a while but now its on a comeback 04:17 <@plisp> oh I was just suggesting that personal programming projects could be cool for a CV 04:17 oh yes I have mine on my current CV 04:17 with github links 04:17 <@plisp> ah nice 04:17 incase someone would want to look at them 04:18 so one is an ircd written in rust (i mean, a very limited implementation that does basic channels and relays messagges, but no op powers, no kick, etc.) 04:18 and another one is the nethack scoreboard which is really Mandevil's project, but maintainership was passed on and I've made some changes to it and an experimental new front-end (not ready for the live site yet) 04:19 aoei: Being maintainer for an existing project you didn't start is a decent point. 04:20 yeah. i also need to be applying for more stuff I think, tho the ones I did find and apply for so far weren't great fits for me either tbh 04:20 so i gotta keep looking 04:20 but again human networking like you said is really important, hope to do more of that soon 04:20 should check the rust/python meets again 04:21 thanks y'all these chats are helping me feel more confident about it <3 04:21 i can do eet 04:21 aoei: At the least, pick one and see if they have onlien options (eg, a youtube channel and mailing list). That might be a start there until it's safe to meet in person. 04:21 hm yeah good idea 04:22 aoei: Try to keep it local, though, if you can. 04:22 right 04:22 especially since I don't want to move for a job currently 04:22 i want one here in Hamburg 04:22 Indeed. 04:24 aoei: Also, consider networking and simply starting your own commercial apps. Eg, android app store, iOS app store, or other services. But coming up with an idea worth implementing, and being able to implement those, is going to be tough - especially in a recession. 04:24 aoei: Still good opportunities out there, though. 04:24 aoei: Just don't do an AirBNB app. ;) 04:24 ok arahael :) 04:25 aoei: What's good about the 'nethack scoreboard' there, though, is that it implies that you're capable of dealing with other people. ;) If there are other devs involved, I'd probably mention that it's not a solo project. 04:27 mobileuser and elenmirie are the other maintainers 04:27 but ive been a bit more active with the coding stuf 04:28 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Zertrin (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "ElberethElberethElbereth", on T:3355 04:29 aoei: They'd potentially be good as a reference. 04:29 heh i hadnt thought of that 04:29 i guess i can ask 04:31 aoei: If you're young, that's a big big plus, too, as it will potentially explain your lack of commercial experience. 04:31 how young is young 04:31 im 29 04:31 but doing a degree and PhD takes a lot of time 04:31 so probably its not a big problem in my case 04:32 aoei: Yeah, well definitely mention that. 04:32 unless I'm applying for Lidl, it's in my CV 04:32 aoei: I got my job by being headhunted after doing really well in my degree. 04:32 nice 04:32 (Engineering, specialising in Software Engineering, for what it's worth) 04:32 yeha 04:33 yeah* 04:33 i mean i did chemistry/phd in organic chemistry 04:33 Oooh, nice. Sorry gtg, dinner! 04:33 And my wife is waiting! 04:33 k, enjoy! 04:33 thanks for the chats 04:42 -!- wvc has left #hardfought 04:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2999 points, T:3409, killed by a dwarf 04:53 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:56 !tell Umbire well I don't "retain" features from 3.6/3.7, I rather never implement them in the first place :P because slex is based on what is ultimately probably 3.3.0 or something 04:56 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 05:00 also I wonder what rebatela means with me supposedly recruiting someone for slex and that I "got the ID thing right" but apparently not the carry cap thing?! 05:01 aww amateurhour's not here 05:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1739 05:10 aoei: oh, another tip: uni's can have really effective job hunting systems - if you are on good terms with your supervisor, you should get his advice and ask if he knows of any contacts as well. 05:11 aoei: now, i must get going - board games with the wife :) 05:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4295 05:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4388 points, T:5509, killed by a lynx 05:51 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:53 [hdf-au] [evil] PeachMuffin (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 472 points, T:1334, zombified by a kobold zombie, while dressing up 05:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1104 points, T:2373, killed by a dog 06:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 349 points, T:874, killed by a dwarf 06:17 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:18 Woah. An Olog-hai, on Dlvl 11, as an Xp 8 character. Hope it's a chameleon... 06:18 Nope. Real corpse. 06:18 Must be a polytrap somewhere... 06:23 arahael: nah, unfortunately she doesn't know anything except for post-doc stuff, which typically means moving somewhere far away 06:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Caeleno (Val Hum Mal Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:22710 06:24 aoei: Next gamble to try is the careers office of your uni. 06:24 hm yeah that could be worth 06:25 aoei: I mean, for me it was crap because it was all like: "This is how you write a CV...", ,really basic stuff, but the point is to check out all the networking possibilities and angles. 06:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Caeleno (Val Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22761 06:26 for IT stuff, networking is most important 06:26 anything else hardly matters 06:26 Indeed. 06:26 well or much less at least 06:26 i think that applies not only to IT but a lot of socalled professional careers 06:27 For an industry that values merit, we do it astonishingly badly. It's seriously all about the networking. 06:27 right 06:28 aoei: Arguably. Other careers, such as teaching... You get the degree, you put your name down with the biggest employer in the country, and you're done. 06:28 (That depends on country too, admitably) 06:29 teaching seems more structure here too 06:29 structured* 06:29 but I think that kind of career is more an exception than the rule 06:29 I suspect unions are a factor, too. 06:29 but seriously network is huge for anything 06:32 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "abcd", on T:3222 06:39 lol, learning the alphabet I see :D 06:40 Gotta start easy. :) 06:41 could've engraved 'x' and kept illit smh 06:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4798 06:41 stenno: Keeping conducts is only fun if you're *not* lawful. ;) 06:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4828 06:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 arrows on an altar, on T:4831 06:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:4841 06:45 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 15002 points, T:5313, killed by a giant spider 06:45 That was a frustrating game. 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Caeleno (Val Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:24649 06:52