00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7864 00:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6656 00:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6657 00:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:7017 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:8980 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:34430 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:9407 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 23177 points, T:9701, killed by a fire giant 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9362 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32989 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 124683 points, T:35305, killed by an ice troll 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law), 299104 points, T:33240, choked on a green dragon corpse 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Pri Hum Fem Neu) stole 7 kongbucks worth of merchandise from Fleac's delicatessen, on T:8667 01:17 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Nalzok, on T:18765 01:18 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18766 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 161 points, T:273, killed by a large mimic 01:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 371 points, T:949, killed by a coyote 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 380 points, T:722, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:9, killed by a water demon 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 952 points, T:1318, killed by a dwarf 02:20 -!- nymphet has joined #hardfought 03:01 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07 -!- nymphet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] Vis (Inf Hum Mal Una), 4290 points, T:2880, killed by a watchman 03:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3834 03:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3846 03:35 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6292 04:02 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:7113 04:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:7138 04:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:7140 04:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7145 04:13 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 04:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3043 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3150 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2533 points, T:3273, killed by a contaminated potion 04:39 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10170 04:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 05:13 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1923 05:29 !tell amateurhour I thought taming canines in particular doesn't always work during a full moon, isn't that a vanilla feature? could be SLASH'EM-specific though 05:29 amateurhour shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 05:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:15672 05:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:34 Amy, you're right, it's a vanilla thing. "You have a chance of not being able to tame dogs at night; failed attempts will still pacify them, and you can try repeatedly." says the wiki. 05:34 at full moon that is. 05:36 :) 05:36 I thought Xorns are supposed to be rare? I've seriously got my *fourth* Xorn. 05:38 Fifth... 05:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5164 05:48 Freaking sixth! 05:48 Am I super unlucky or something? :) 05:51 what would the game be like if all monsters with non-zero spawn frequency had their spawn frequency values randomized at game start? 05:52 Sounds like evilhack. :) 05:54 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 78718 points, T:18685, killed by a soldier 05:54 Good game. 05:57 Sneckohack 06:34 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:36 -!- WarriorX90 has joined #hardfought 06:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 9269 points, T:5619, killed by a hill orc 06:55 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- WarriorX90 has left #hardfought 07:01 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:02 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 07:09 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:11 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 07:26 -!- amateurhour has 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Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:49525 08:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32504 09:12 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 09:14 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:15 nice one mobileuser 09:15 amateurhour: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2020-10-03 05:29 EDT: I thought taming canines in particular doesn't always work during a full moon, isn't that a vanilla feature? could be SLASH'EM-specific though 09:16 well TIL 09:24 no time for snacks must awoooo 09:38 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:38 -!- moony has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 09:41 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 09:43 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 343 points, T:562, killed by a bolt of cold 09:44 !who 09:44 aoei: [hdf-us] groovejumper [dyn] Qwesti [nh370] post163 [nh370] hothraxxa [xnh] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [slshm] rebatela [evil] tromix [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:44 ;o amateurhour on the original slash'em 09:44 how's that going for ya? 09:44 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:55 find generally 09:55 fine* 09:55 monks are pretty strong 09:56 nice 09:56 I tend to throw games by yoloing at places like Grund's fortress 09:56 does slash'em also have a spaceship 09:56 or is that just slex 09:56 just slex 09:56 ah okay 09:56 have you ever played ZapM? 09:56 yeah like 09:56 once 09:56 that's what the space base branch is based on 09:57 or inspired by or whatever 09:57 the maps for robot town, the final sewer level and the rabbit hole are directly from ZAPM :) 10:09 morning 10:09 hey K2 o/ 10:09 o/ 10:09 <{Demo}1> morning k2 10:09 weee 10:10 Hello L3, Welcome to #hardfought 10:10 hi professionalminute 10:10 that's as witty as I can get currently 10:11 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 10:11 there's no livelogging for slashem, but I just killed ruggo as you said that 10:11 poor ruggo 10:11 but the minute is up so I'm back to unpaid amateurism 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2576 10:14 so hardfought turns 20 years old in 19 days 10:14 wooooo boy 10:14 woah 3 chameleons in ruggo's lair 10:14 eat them 10:14 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:14 that's really nasty in slashem 10:14 EPI: import chameleon behaviour into evilhack 10:14 grunthack did 10:15 i opted for something a bit milder 10:15 chameleon behavior in grunthack/slashem is just... ugh 10:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Dagon, on T:113645 10:19 what present are you going to buy hardfought for their birthday K2? 10:19 a bobble hat 10:19 :P 10:19 :o 10:19 i approve of this 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3456 10:21 heh no birthday present. pretty cool milestone though 10:21 is it hdf bday today or what? 10:22 19 days 10:22 don't ask me how I know that 10:22 ah 19 days from now 10:23 would have been funny if it was the same say as german unity day 10:25 lol I implemented bobble hats as an item in slex today :D 10:25 yay :D 10:25 Amy: can I patch slex so dogs can wear bobble hats? 10:25 i mean if i made such a PR would you accept 10:26 heh, that's not planned I'm afraid 10:26 aw 10:26 kay 10:26 * aoei has becomes weirdly obsessed with the doggo hats thing for some reason 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2825 points, T:4467, killed by a giant beetle, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:41 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a long sword named Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:24861 10:43 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:45 I'm afraid bobble hats for doggos would be too popular a change aoei 10:45 so it can't be added to slex, sorry 10:45 :^) 10:46 heh, I miiiiiiiight add a new type of dog that can wear armor and starts with a bobble hat equipped :D 10:47 :o 10:47 * aoei is very much in favour of this 10:48 but if I do, every other variant developer whom you ask if they also want to implement bobble hats for dogs will say "slex already has that, go play that" ;) 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2569 10:50 Amy: it's possible that AntiGulp already added bobble hats to her variant 10:50 I don't remember for sure 10:50 yeah but can dogs wear them there? 10:50 or whether this matters to you 10:50 er. well I made a SpliceHack patch 10:50 where they can wear any hats 10:51 but IIRC it's not merged to the core codebase 10:51 heh, my bobble hats are an independent implementation so they're probably different 10:51 they give 10 points of AC, but a player wearing one is also permastunned until they take it off 10:51 and if they weren't, would it really matter? 10:51 ohhh I see 10:51 that is most likely quite different 10:51 is the 10 ac a reference to devnull 10:51 also my splice patch enabling dogs to wear hats is really idiotic 10:52 because it'll let them wear any headgear and do it themselves 10:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:52 and only lets dogs do it 10:52 amateurhour: yep :D except that this is slex so it still needs to be balanced; giving it permanent stun is IMHO a good way of making sure it's not too strong 10:52 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:52 a good way to make sure it's never worn you mean 10:52 tho interestingly, due to the fact wild dogs don't pick up items generally, only pet dogs will actually pick up and then wear the harts 10:52 hats* 10:53 amateurhour: if you pick the race that has permanent stun, it becomes a really good item because double stun isn't a thing 10:53 > if you pick the race that has permanent stun 10:53 lol 10:53 which race has permanent stun? :o 10:53 I think Amy, unlike amateurhour, understands that some players are actually mad 10:54 tumblrer 10:54 and some people will choose nuts races like that 10:54 Amy: what's the benefit of that race, to balance out the stun deal? 10:54 I've played the permastunned tumblrer once and completed soko with it 10:54 not bad 10:54 their benefit is that they start with all skills (determined by the role) maxxed out 10:54 so a tumblrer monk for example will be grand master in martial arts from the start 10:54 ahhhh cool 10:55 I keep forgetting that when discussing these things we aren't trying to balance things for foolish reasons like fun 10:55 like a different spin on the addict 10:55 i mean some people might have diff ideas of what's fun tbf amateurhour 10:55 so in that vein how about bobble hats can be any random helm appearance 10:55 and once you've worn it once you gain the perma stun intrinsic 10:55 amateurhour: they are a random-appearance helm 10:56 can only be removed via gremlins 10:56 YASlexI^ 10:56 also yeah the main balance concern in slex is to make sure the player character doesn't become too OP, that's what balance actually *is* IMHO (and of course, that monsters don't become too strong either) 10:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 10:56 * aoei wonders whether the reason Amy understands and caters for totally mad players is because she is, in fact, totally bonkers herself :^) 10:56 well they never become too strong because they never become strong :^) 10:56 there seems to be a widespread misconception that "unfun = unbalanced", even though they're two completely different things 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3478 10:57 from now on my mind will autotranslate "(un)balanced" (when used by someone other than myself) to "(un)fun" because that seems to be what it really means :P 10:57 splitting stacks to dip things one at a time isn't fun 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3572 10:57 this is a hill i am willing to die on 10:57 then don't do that? 10:57 hahahahahahahahah 10:57 as hills to die on go 10:57 that is quite a funny one 10:58 * amateurhour places flag on top of hill 10:58 lmao 10:58 yeah I don't get it either, why would you pick THAT as a dealbreaker??? 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3670 10:58 yeah, there's so much else batshit crazy about slex XD 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled KERNOD WEL on an altar, on T:3678 10:58 because it's the only thing that doesn't make sense in any capacity 10:59 I sort of maybe get the stuff I disagree with 10:59 ...I explained it to you several times why it has to be like that 10:59 altars being yeeted for example 10:59 the explanation hasn't changed since :P 10:59 but purposefully dipping a stack of potions to dilute them having chance of failure doesn't make sense 10:59 should be special cased 11:01 but that's just my vocal opinion 11:01 what's so difficult about just dipping the stack a couple more times? 11:01 arbitrarily many times unless you split the stack 11:01 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:01 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest8103 11:01 -!- Guest8103 has quit [Killed (cherryh.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:01 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:02 also the get_wet function is used by many things, not just dipping the stack yourself but also e.g. falling into water 11:02 that's why I'm saying purposefully #dip a stack should be special cased 11:03 in somewhere like dodip 11:03 tbh im kinda with amateurhour on that point - from the point of view of what makes sense in the game world and what the player character is actively trying to do 11:03 nah it has a gameplay effect, namely you need to use more game turns if you want to dilute more items, works as intended 11:03 or am I, looked at another way, one couldn't physically hold more than one potion and submerge it manually in water 11:03 bu thten like 11:04 how far do you go with that kind of "realism?" 11:04 you can just make it use more turns still thoug 11:04 slex isn't trying to be realistic lol, I play games to escape from reality for a while, not to try to emulate it as best I can 11:04 amateurhour: in which case you're asking for a more convenient interface, not a gameplay effect 11:04 IIRC Amy said something about just using ^A to do that 11:04 what's that function that sets you as doing the action for a few turns again 11:04 use that 11:05 guys you can stop trying to convince me of something, it works as intended and will not be changed :P (sorry for being blunt here) 11:05 well im not trying to convince anyone of anything 11:05 <{Demo}1> please don't give feedback 11:05 i'm just giving my take on some of the points you've both made 11:05 me neither, just vocally stating my opinion 11:07 amateurhour: but you've stated that opinion many times now 11:07 maybe one day you'll change your mind on you own 11:07 yes he has quite a bee in his bonet about this water dipping stuff :^) 11:07 :^) 11:07 newsflash: buggering me again and again further reduces the chance that I give in :P 11:07 hehehehehehehe 11:07 bugging is the wword yuo want 11:07 buggering means something else XD 11:08 lmao! 11:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1033 points, T:1908, killed by a large cat 11:08 im still laughing 11:08 sorry Amhy 11:08 amy* 11:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13405 11:08 its not really fair to laugh at non-english speakers so much about stuff like that, but this one is particularly classic 11:08 oh lol 11:08 to bugger someone is to erm 11:09 wasn't aware of that 11:09 ah did you already look it up lol 11:09 yeah 11:09 * aoei is still laughing xP 11:09 alright which one of u has been doing that to try get changes in slex 11:10 it wasnt me! 11:10 <{Demo}1> lmao 11:10 there's also the misconception that I would be like any other variant developer and make changes if just bug(ger)ed enough :P that may work on other variants but not slex 11:11 lmao 11:11 i cant stop giggling 11:11 and come to think of it, I wonder why that still comes as a surprise; nasty traps have existed for the longest time, every player absolutely hates them, and many of them have urged me to change them 11:11 so what you're saying is to get changes into evilhack I should... 11:11 why do players still think I'd change them now when it should be very clear that they're a part of the game? 11:11 amateurhour: XD 11:12 I like nastytraps, just wish they'd wear out a little sooner 11:12 idk Amy, even before I knew you I somehow learned of Slex's reputation 11:12 and wish the black ng wall trap would explain what's happened with a message 11:12 and I realised it was very clear Amy would never change something about the game from player pressure 11:12 but other than that think they're fine 11:13 especially if its something to torture players with 11:13 that would likely defeat the true purpose of slex 11:13 which is to torture players 11:14 I mean, if a specific type of nasty trap turns out to be too player-hostile, its effect may get nerfed, which has happened in the past; but the general duration formula is fine 11:14 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:14 there was great quote someone made, saying that the aim of Slex was in fact to be so painful the player wants their character to die as soon as possible 11:14 xD 11:15 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 11:16 yeah some nastytrap effects are designed to cause that :D 11:17 [hdf-eu] [un] fxenakis (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2946 points, T:4568, killed by a rope golem 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5634 points, T:5271, killed by a spotted jelly 11:19 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2003 11:22 got any plans for new optional branches Amy? 11:22 amateurhour: yes, a bunch, but they'll have to wait until another time, want to push 2.68 out the door first 11:23 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 8875 points, T:2314, killed by a crow 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 22404 points, T:17709, quit 11:23 slex side-branch idea: ambient effect has a constant chance each turn of either giving you a nastytrap effect (if you have one) or shuffling whichever nastytrap effect you currently have 11:24 er, giving you one if you didn't already have, i mean 11:24 so you effectively would get random ones on shuffle 11:24 there's no intention of making the game check whether you have any of the 200+ nastytrap effects acive; if at all, I'd just make it give temporary ones completely randomly :P 11:24 hey youre game 11:24 your* 11:25 but im glad you like some aspect of this idea XD 11:25 actually, there is a way to implement your version of that: while in the branch, a random nastytrap effect is active and which one it is can occasionally change 11:25 but if you have any nastytrap effects from other sources active, they'd stack :P 11:25 ahhh i see 11:25 oh yeah, of course 11:25 what could the reward be? 11:25 that's how it should be i think 11:25 its just the branch-associated one that should randomly shuffle 11:26 Die Aoei will nen Nastytrap-Branch, in dem immer ne bestimmte Nastytrap aktiv ist, die sich ab und zu ändert. 11:26 ^^ added that to my todo list ♥ 11:26 yay <3 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 270 points, T:981, killed by a gecko 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 100 points, T:538, killed by a goblin 11:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Mammon, on T:118681 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 226 points, T:1109, killed by a giant mimic 11:33 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2528 11:34 [hdf-eu] [un] fxenakis (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 581 points, T:794, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:34 what's left on your todo for the release? 11:36 right now I implemented the new spells (still need to test them), then I have to do the new randomized appearances and create a bunch of new artifacts 11:36 after that I need to add a ton and a half of monsters and implement a few minor things and then it'll be done at last :D 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 416 points, T:1223, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 11:42 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:37451 11:45 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:47 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 11:47 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 11:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 589 points, T:846, killed by a gnome lord 11:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:61230 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 368 points, T:1457, killed by a gnome king 12:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:61378 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 291 points, T:2071, killed by a giant rat 12:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 239 points, T:1072, killed by a hobbit 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 164 points, T:897, killed by a coyote 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:62826 12:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law), 257 points, T:752, killed by a gas spore's explosion 12:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 61 points, T:96, killed by a newt 12:38 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 23815 points, T:10149, quit 12:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Orcus, on T:124298 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1016 points, T:3126, killed by a gnome lord 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1429 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 78 points, T:84, killed by a small mimic 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 61 points, T:328, killed by a small mimic 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1292 13:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4939 points, T:3155, killed by an orc-captain 13:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:18351 13:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3614 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4095 13:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:63167 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 7705 points, T:3168, killed by a dwarf lord 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Canon, on T:50192 13:37 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:6 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] 16charmax (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 395 points, T:1307, killed by a jackal 13:58 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Canon, on T:22860 14:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] 16charmax (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 110 points, T:377, killed by a water moccasin 14:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64851 14:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64854 14:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:64994 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5983 14:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:65229 14:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:65231 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:51537 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51540 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6143 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:6148 14:37 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bow on an altar, on T:6219 14:39 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Bar Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:74321 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2963 points, T:6809, killed by a soldier ant 14:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:15380 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:66944 15:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:66944 15:15 how's the games going? 15:15 ooh tromix, gogogo! 15:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:18659 15:15 wooo 15:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:67118 15:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Con Inc Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:23534 15:17 !PoM 15:17 APic: The moon is full for 1 more day. 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18166 15:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:67155 15:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:67173 15:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1756 15:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1612 points, T:1780, killed by an orc-captain 15:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha), 83297 points, T:19270, killed by a lightning paraelemental 15:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:67219 15:27 congrats tromix! 15:28 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 15:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law), 3213836 points, T:67233, ascended 15:30 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tromix/nethack/dumplog/1601578448.nh.html 15:30 gratz tromix!! 15:32 thank you all =) 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7854 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:21429 15:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1743 16:02 amateurhour: EPI: if you try to dip too many potions or scrolls into a pool at once, there's a chance that some of them slip out of your grasp and sink to the bottom. Because realism. Ever tried to dip 10 bottles at once into a deep pool with your bare hands? :D 16:03 (and we assume that the pool is deep enough that you have to dive in order to get them back up) 16:04 you could securely hold 8 pretty easily assuming you have standard humanoid hands 16:06 oh, can you still dip in 3.7 if you're polymorphed into, say, a wolf (with an amulet of flying so you don't actually fall into the pool)? because if they already make it so that you can no longer throw in wolf form, then dipping shouldn't work either 16:07 a canine could dip a bottle fairly securely via mouth 16:07 could they also launch a thrown dagger or knife with their mouth then? ;) 16:08 also, can they actually uncork the potion bottle with their teeth? 16:08 no, I am providing a counterexample of why ability to throw shouldn't imply ability to dip or do other things 16:08 actually, why can a lichen (which has no limbs whatsoever) still quaff a potion when the player is polymorphed into one? :D 16:09 btw I've never been saying that we should be able to do this in one turn 16:09 anyway I doubt there's interest in enumerating all the different things you can do in all possible polyforms 16:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 7735 points, T:3169, killed by a giant beetle 16:16 [hdf-us] [dyn] groovejumper (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 56436 points, T:59792, killed by brainlessness 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:23293 16:27 lol nearly died in slashem because autopickup tried picking up the eye of the aethiopica 16:28 oh man this guy had a whole ascension kit 16:28 51 potions of water wtf lol 16:28 bones loot OP, needs nerf :P (well it's regular slashem so it doesn't, you can expect to be handed several ascension kits from all the side branches anyway) 16:29 I think they might have had the bell of opening at least 16:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:865 16:29 I have no idea who it was who died 16:30 but 51 potions of water seems excessive and I'd really like to know why so many lol 16:30 also ascension when :D 16:30 !whereis amateurhour 16:30 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] amateurhour [slshm]: No details available 16:30 amateurhour: wow 51 potions? as we know, obtaining potions of water is really tough, so that sure is impressive 16:31 hahaha 16:31 anyway, bedtime now 16:31 sleep well 16:31 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: bundlebundle] 16:31 one final parting bundle 16:32 55 unlabelled scrolls as well 16:33 there's a bag within a bag 16:33 ... with a bag inside? 16:33 I daren't take it out atm incase it's a boh 16:33 they have so many gems as well 16:33 I think they might have been a neutral monk 16:34 they actually have 3 bags in the wallet of perseus 16:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2013 16:34 lol what on earth have I uncovered 16:35 amateurhour: daaaa-a-a-a-amn 16:35 gypsy farmer, i guess? 16:35 76k gold 16:36 man idk how I'm gonna throw this run, but it'll be so disappointing to do so after finding this 16:36 wish I'd picked neutral now for the eye 16:37 idk what a solar is but there's a figurine of one in here 16:37 oh man 16:37 that's really really powerful I think 16:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2603 points, T:2544, killed by a rothe 16:38 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Planetar_and_Solar 16:38 I hope I haven't ruined someones bones-stuffing for a tc record or something 16:38 meh, bones stuffing is kinda cheating anyways :) 16:38 meh, bones stuffing is degenerate. ruin away! 16:52 what could you even need 51 holy waters for 16:53 honestly unholy seems more useful to a point, for revgeno 16:53 but even then--at some point you run out of stats and levels 16:54 I don't really know how they died, their loot was on an Elbereth 16:54 so I may go back superpowered and then die to the same thing 16:59 many wands of death lol 17:01 and a wand of wishing lmao 17:02 I don't even think there's anything to wish for, I should have preserved wishless conduct 17:02 but I had a brain fail and wished for charging 17:03 now you're ch-raging 17:03 haha 17:03 it would be pretty weak to get wishless from these stacked bones though 17:03 so I'm changing my story to being noble and pure 17:04 moon-child: if you're prepping a lot of revgeno, you wouldn't need a bunch of unholy waters. just one, or 2-3 if you feel you need it. 17:07 I wonder if the discord bridge is up again yet 17:07 rougelike 17:07 it is not 17:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1453 17:27 [hdf-us] [spl] Henrique (Dra Chn Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3696 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9580 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:9584 17:33 -!- tromix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:18952 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] mangotiger (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:1 17:40 [hdf-us] [spl] Henrique (Dra Chn Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4700 17:42 is it safe to put wand of draining in a boh? 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Maybe e class. 19:27 (polymorphable = you can poly into it) 19:29 great idea 19:29 seems strange it doesn't already exist 19:30 if it gets implemented pls make it so things seen with astral vision don't assume they can seeyou 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3252 19:30 well, monsters having astral vision isn't a thing in 3.x 19:34 there's a really cool race in ndnh that has astral vision but is blind 19:34 astral vision radius increases with xlvl 19:36 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:39 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1297 points, T:1682, killed by a rothe 19:42 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Eth Mal Neu), 526 points, T:453, killed by a mirkwood elder 19:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Con Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Aegis", on T:26248 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5725 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:6536 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16374 points, T:6733, killed by a water moccasin 19:59 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Eth Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:982 20:01 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Eth Mal Neu), 1075 points, T:1036, killed by a blast of lightning 20:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Con Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:27734 20:13 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 20:23 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:40 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:41 <@riker> !ping 20:41 @riker: Pong! 20:41 <@riker> !pign 20:41 <@riker> !ping 20:41 @riker: Pong! 21:02 <@ShadowFountain> !pom 21:02 @ShadowFountain: The moon is full for 1 more day. 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:18509 21:23 [hdf-us] [dyn] me2 (dragonspeaker) (Con Hum Mal Cha), 130 points, T:214, killed by a coyote 21:33 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:53 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 21:55 * arahael hopes he gets fewer Xorns in this game. 21:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 152 points, T:220, killed by a bolt of lightning 21:59 There were indeed no Xorns in that game. 22:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law), 141 points, T:183, killed by a small mimic 22:16 !ping 22:16 loli: Pong! 22:20 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:1271 22:22 {Demo}1 how'd the test go? 22:37 @?giant spider 22:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu), 816 points, T:706, killed by a water moccasin 22:38 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2470 22:39 Beholder: Wrong. I went way past it, and now I'm on the way back! 22:39 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu), 468 points, T:365, killed by an ammit 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:38619 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38621 22:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:719 22:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Con Inc Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:32576 23:02 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 23:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:13396 23:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Con Inc Mal Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:33270 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:40169 23:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Con Inc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:34140 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:19286 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1963 points, T:2779, killed by a rock piercer 23:21 ow 23:22 -!- nymphet has joined #hardfought 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1394 23:35 Menchers: :< 23:36 RIP 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1406 points, T:2393, killed by a rothe 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8541 points, T:6481, killed by a soldier ant