00:02 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Inf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:7059 00:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 651 points, T:1794, killed by a magic missile, while taking off clothes 00:05 -!- khoR_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 00:09 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 00:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 1307 points, T:1801, killed by a giant mosquito 00:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 905 points, T:2161, killed by a gnome lord 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15784 00:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 86 points, T:545, burned by molten lava 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4612 points, T:3287, killed by a dwarf mummy 00:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Ith Fem Una), 30 points, T:104, killed by a jackal, while reading a book 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided mind flayers, on T:10192 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10514 00:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1930 points, T:3096, burned by a fireball 00:36 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:599 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1313 points, T:1775, killed by a dagger 00:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:1937 00:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1088 points, T:2118, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping 00:49 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 00:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Dwa Mal Neu) had a pair of mud boots entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2405 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:12853 01:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13184 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:13276 01:06 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 01:06 !tell mobileuser belated congrats !! 01:06 I'm on it, aoei. 01:10 -!- mackeyth has joined #hardfought 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:18066 01:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Dwa Mal Neu), 3102 points, T:2875, killed by a watchman 01:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 256 points, T:708, zombified by a gnome zombie 01:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 536 points, T:1770, killed by an earth elemental of Chih Sung-tzu 01:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 330 points, T:1301, killed by Mr. Aksaray; the shopkeeper, while moving through the air 01:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:14753 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided arch-liches, on T:14758 01:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a slippery cloak entrusted to her by Mog, on T:2764 01:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1820 points, T:3013, killed by a bolt of cold 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:21234 01:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 255 points, T:758, killed by a giant spider 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4804 points, T:6016, killed by a spotted jelly 01:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1431 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 100229 points, T:22686, killed by a captain, while paralyzed by a monster 02:04 <@dexsg> tried to take a pet purple worm to fight an arch lich 02:04 <@dexsg> and got too greedy sticking around 02:05 F 02:05 It'd need to snack on a few wraiths first. 02:06 @?purple worm 02:06 purple worm (w) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 2d8 bite physical, 1d10 engulf digest | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, oviparous 02:06 @?arch-lich 02:06 arch-lich (L) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: sheol gehennom | AC: -6 | Attacks: 5d6 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -15 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, undead, covetous 02:07 <@dexsg> oh will it not go for the lich? level difference too high? 02:08 Yeah. 02:09 A fully-grown purple worm maxes out at level 22, though gulping wraiths bypasses that. 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 51 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45451 02:09 of course, if you generate conflict, it won't cate. 02:09 care* 02:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 6347 points, T:3072, killed by a priest of Mercury 02:10 <@dexsg> Cool. Well then, I guess it was a good plan with botched execution. 02:10 <@dexsg> That was my first time using a purple worm and it was immensely amusing to watch it gobble up shopkeepers and priests. 02:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 12 points, T:435, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 02:11 * Andrio loves purple worms too much. And chameleons imitating purple worms. 02:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 139 points, T:710, killed by a small mimic 02:15 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4340 02:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4394 02:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4395 02:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 37 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45987 02:19 <@dexsg> hmm, so pets won't attack if the target is >= 2 levels higher, but my green dragon was throwing breath at a peaceful yeenoghu. Is that just a breath-related quirk? 02:20 Maybe, yes. Are you sure it was actually targeting Yeenoghu? 02:23 pets are annoying 02:23 whenever i have a badass pet it always picks on the wrong things 02:26 mm... 02:26 well, as you keep a pet longer, the probability approaches 1 that it will eventually pick a fight with something that kills it, or fight too many things at once 02:27 Or block your retreat and kill you. 02:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Hob Mal Neu), 2773 points, T:3189, killed by a black unicorn 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:46848 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:46849 02:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:5983 02:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3138 points, T:6266, killed by a soldier ant 02:38 Oof... 02:45 -!- mackeyth has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 02:46 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 188 points, T:468, killed by an invisible water demon 03:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 365 points, T:1809, killed by a dwarf 03:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 837 points, T:1704, killed by a crossbow bolt 03:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 112 points, T:334, killed by a water moccasin 03:28 <@plisp> !setmintc 4000 03:28 @plisp: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for @plisp set to 4000 03:32 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "+2 blessed silver dragon scale mail", on T:317 03:39 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:51 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1901 03:57 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Arc Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:3656 04:03 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4489 04:14 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:20 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 141 points, T:720, killed by a sewer rat 04:41 . 04:41 mobileuser: Message from aoei at 2020-09-22 01:06 EDT: belated congrats !! 04:41 heh thx 04:42 YOU DONE DID IT 04:42 now you just have to complete all the races 04:42 ascended, ASCENSION WHEN? 04:42 \o/ 04:42 and then all the race/role combinations that you haven't already done in the all-roles or all-races passes 04:42 all roles, ALL RACES WHEN? 04:43 I don't know if I'll ever try giant 04:43 :< 04:43 you HAVE to 04:43 how come? 04:43 it's the law 04:43 THE LAW 04:43 this is not a gun 04:43 i am very friendly 04:43 do it now 04:43 I could start as giant and then polyself... 04:43 lol 04:43 XD 04:44 why's that? 04:44 startscum giant wizards? 04:44 I hate the armor restrictions 04:44 mobileuser: play polyself as minotaur to train yourself that you don't need body armor and cloak D: 04:44 :D * 04:45 I think I'll try to play a proper human monk first 04:45 get used to no DSM first 04:45 baby steps :-) 04:45 wuss :P 04:45 tbh I haven't ascended many monks 04:45 what races can monk play... 04:45 and I think most if not all of them 04:46 I eventually used high luck plus high xp to wear body armour and a sword 04:46 I kinda wanna try "traditional" now 04:46 in vanilla that works 04:46 just because I'm unsure whether I actually have pulled it off before 04:47 I could check scoreboard but some of my older games don't have dumplog or recorded conducts 04:47 gonna check the ones that do anywya 04:48 mobileuser the armour restriction is generally fine 04:49 only annoyance is pretty much having to have dragonbane 04:49 no MR from cloak, no sickness res from DSM, no drain res from shirt 04:50 there's an ammy for MR in Evil 04:50 what role you gonna play? 04:50 because there's a wishable body slot armour piece now 04:50 sickness... yeah that might be an issue 04:50 drain res on that 04:50 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:51 ah true 04:51 how problematic is not having drain res in Evil? 04:51 in vanilla it's usually not that bad 04:51 for Vlad really freaking annoying lol 04:51 and if you have MC3 it means nothing 04:51 amateurhour: ah 04:51 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5632 points, T:5692, killed by a water demon 04:51 Vlad and sometimes Demo 04:51 are there any temporary buffs you can use to make Vlad less effective 04:51 or can you cancel him or something 04:52 Stormbringer or similar is fine too 04:52 breaks weaponless tho :< 04:52 who cares :-) 04:52 amateurhour: hm. even in vanilla this is now a problem yes? 04:52 not really 04:52 ah 04:53 i forget how tough he is exactly now 04:53 You could try to whip away Vlad's weapon? 04:53 Evil he *also* has lifestealer tho right? 04:53 mobileuser: that would be awesome if it worked 04:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3206 04:53 but if you miss too much you could get killed pretty quick i guess 04:53 K2 should really let us do the 200iq thing and wish for his sword 04:53 :) 04:53 that'd be so sick of speedruns 04:53 xD 04:54 (assuming he also brings the candelabrum) 04:54 assuming he doesn't appear himself, he'd just not have the sword when you got to him 04:54 though fun speedrun strat is also fun 04:56 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:58 [hdf-au] [nh370] plisp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 259 points, T:235, killed by a bat 04:58 do you really need sickness res btw 04:58 just don't get sick 4head 05:00 it's possible to do without, would need boulder fort against demo 05:01 also pestilence on astral is more dangerous 05:01 does wand of death still work? can't remember 05:01 it does 05:01 oh then you're fine then innit 05:02 not if they ambush and stunlock you 05:02 elenmirie had that once I think 05:03 plus you need to be more careful, a stupid locust can end your game 05:05 a chaotic giant could wish for P'hul, but I suck at artifact wishes 05:06 Hmmmmm 05:06 Barbarian giant! 05:07 I think samurai giant would be dope 05:07 for dual-wielding the tsurugi 05:07 No Barbarian giant for the PHUL :b 05:07 don't be a phul, do the meme samurai :D 05:07 lol 05:08 dual-wielding samurai are extremely cool 05:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Arc Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5196 05:08 wiki doesn't list the tsurugi changes 05:09 gives half phys dam 05:09 create that account amateurhour ;-) 05:09 but that involves effortttt 05:10 I wonder what'd be the best thing to twoweapon with the tsurugi 05:10 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:5241 05:10 DIRGE 05:10 can you start the quest, switch to chaotic halfway through, then have the tsurugi be chaotic? 05:10 oh... 05:10 could twoweapon it with lifestealer then 05:11 lawful 05:11 must read Evil strat info in scrollback ;o 05:11 what are cool lawful weapons 05:11 I think K2 has a giant samurai game going 05:11 not sure when it switches quest artifacts to our alignment 05:11 or if it does it by initial alignment or current one 05:12 initial alignment 05:12 that'd be a sweet loophole if it's possible to do though 05:13 i was about to respond but mobileuser already covered it 05:13 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Arc Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:5373 05:13 switching alignments halfway thru quest indeed does not work 05:13 damn 05:14 you can switch to neutral on the knights quest tho 05:14 and you can always handle your own quest artifact 05:14 so you can have magic mirror and the Eye if you wished for it pre-quest 05:14 it's a fun strat, I ascended a neutral knight like that once 05:14 can always handle your own artifact? 05:14 your own quest artifact yeah 05:14 then hooa and lifestealer+tsurugi 05:14 so changing alignment isn't a problem in that sense 05:15 no 05:15 they wont be wielded together 05:15 pretty sure 05:15 oh right yeah, brain fart 05:15 I confess I like Sunsword 05:16 tsurugi/sunsword dual wield 05:22 sounds great 05:31 step into gnomish mines, immediately fireballed by a gnomish wizard. goodbye potions and scrolls :b 05:33 I have no idea yet how psionic attack works, can it kill from a distance? 05:40 bleh forgot I was wielding a dagger. "Your behavior has displeased Anshar." Fated to splat now. 05:45 yeah it can kill from a distance 05:46 any idea of range? 05:47 I was hoping you could any creature you could see with ESP, but that would be a bit OP :b 05:47 * could attack 05:50 I think it's probs same range as force bolt 05:50 not sure though 05:50 doens't work on things without a brain or whatever 05:51 You mentally attack the gnomish wizard! REVENGE 06:08 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:09 erm yeah i'd also say the range seems similar to force bolt 06:09 its a pretty neat spell 06:09 against nymphs its a very nice alternative to force bolt, given the latter is a pretty bad idea 06:10 noice! Illithid is a fun race. 06:16 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 06:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4892 06:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4947 06:33 for sure 06:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2019 points, T:5813, killed by an elf zombie, while fainted from lack of food 06:34 easy hungerless casting is nice as well for wiz 06:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11 points, T:210, killed by a newt 06:56 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:01 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 4629 points, T:6158, killed by a marid 07:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 17200 points, T:8055, killed by a gargoyle 07:14 the comparison to force bolt is apt, the psionic wave can hit multiple monsters in a row 07:17 Peng bruv 07:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3532 07:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4190 07:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6086 07:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:6118 07:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:6146 07:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:7685 08:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (soldier ants), on T:9452 08:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11121 points, T:10049, killed by a mumak 08:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Ith Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "test", on T:3460 08:10 remarkable, you are now able to read 08:11 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7263 08:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 15278 points, T:7692, killed by a goblin-captain 08:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:1291 08:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1378 08:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 306 points, T:1188, killed by a small mimic 08:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 44 points, T:518, killed by a fox 08:24 amateurhour makes you wonder how I was ever able to learn my priest spells 08:25 xD 08:25 mobileuser: this amused me to no end in my one illit ascension 08:25 which was a wizard :D 08:25 you have an evilhack ascension? 08:25 <{Demo}> the priestie boys but its a jnh clan that ascends only priests 08:26 amateurhour: no :c i meant vanilla illit 08:26 my one illit ascension of any kind or variant in fact 08:26 nice 08:26 <{Demo}> ill 08:27 amateurhour: but I don't even have proof anymore because of PAXED 08:27 it's all his fault 08:27 :< 08:28 pics/didn't happen 08:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 1097 points, T:2205, killed by a giant cockroach 08:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:865 08:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 720 points, T:1496, killed by an invisible hobbit rogue, while fainted from lack of food 08:35 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:40 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:41 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha), 7027 points, T:3739, killed by strangulation 08:42 Demo my host died but I didn't evacuate 08:42 <{Demo}> uhhh 08:42 <{Demo}> what 08:42 amulet of strangulation just straight up killed me 08:42 <{Demo}> it might do that 08:42 I figured it wouldn't matter so just yolo'd it 08:42 <{Demo}> polymorph is not consistent 08:43 <{Demo}> with what kills u and doesnt 08:43 <{Demo}> also why the fuck dont we have a web based client side ttyrec player? 08:43 oh, I thought for symbiotes it was just host died -> you became free 08:43 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 08:43 <{Demo}> i think you got asphixiated inside of the guy 08:44 aren't symbiotes unbreathing? 08:44 <{Demo}> he couldnt get oxygen so u couldnt either 08:44 <{Demo}> they are swimming idk 08:44 <{Demo}> should they be unbreathing? probably not? 08:44 'Can survive without air' 08:44 <{Demo}> maybe water breathing 08:44 on the changelog 08:44 <{Demo}> yeah that's weird 08:44 <{Demo}> they should be water breathing 08:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Gia Mal Cha), 3413 points, T:2557, killed by a killer bee 08:44 <{Demo}> but that isn't a thing 08:44 <{Demo}> hmmm 08:49 unusual edge case perhaps 08:55 <{Demo}> how do fish work? 08:56 <{Demo}> do they have magical breathing? 08:56 magical breathing doesn't help against strangulation 08:56 blood still needs to flow to your head 08:56 <{Demo}> ah 08:56 <{Demo}> yeah hmm 08:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 1567 points, T:1651, killed by a steel dart 08:57 it doesn't even allow you to survive for longer 08:57 but the symbiote isn't getting squished 08:57 unless it's in the neck? 08:57 aren't they in the head canonically 08:57 amateurhour: symbiote maybe also needs blood 08:58 carrying O2 to it 08:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Mal Una), 82 points, T:193, killed by a newt, while frozen by a potion 08:58 <{Demo}> no they dont need blood 08:58 ah 08:58 <{Demo}> i would guess yeah if the host has a neck, they r in the neck near the spinal cord 08:58 yeah i think the goauld were spinal cord attached no? 08:58 <{Demo}> and i guess strangulation would kind of crush them 09:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 538 points, T:2082, killed by a wererat 09:00 well TIL of one way I shouldn't be blasé about the host body then 09:00 amateurhour: XD yeah 09:00 I have a theory about why we're both shit at nethack btw 09:00 ???? 09:01 not sufficiently risk-averse 09:01 bit rude lmao 09:01 !ping 09:01 FIQ: Pong! 09:01 and don't check things beforehand 09:01 imagine if I had said 09:01 I have a theory about why we're both useless sacks of shit 09:01 amateurhour: you already said this of yourself ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 09:01 amateurhour: i'd be curious to hear your theory still tho 09:02 I'm just bad rather than not thinking through the risks 09:02 just playing without thinking much 09:02 same 09:03 quite often it's really dumb stuff like "yeah but if i land a hit this time i might kill it before it kills me" even tho my health is already low and there's absolutely *no* guarantee of this 09:03 or "just one more hit" as this problem is called for short 09:05 amateurhour: I also have a theory about hardcore streakers like Luxurybeam and Tawdryru 09:05 they don't do that :^) 09:06 Yes, serial ascenders don't do the "one more hit" thing. 09:06 I might even extend this theory a little bit and suggest these players don't take action if there's more than a very low baseline risk of death 09:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Cen Mal Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Digger, on T:1186 09:07 and that the only reason some can play fast is they've been doing it a long time and have already done a fucklot of spoilering and sourcediving to have good certainties on their probability assessments 09:07 "What? Not NOW, game! I mean, yes, having my items identified would be handy, but CAN'T YOU SEE I'M BUSY?" 09:07 jonadab: lol 09:08 presumably i could train myself to play in a manner that is more like that 09:08 but my default playstyle is pretty risk and trigger happy 09:08 i think i got a two streak once by sheer luck 09:11 my longest streak is 2 as well 09:12 My longest streak is 1. 09:12 But I've done it seven times. 09:13 Have you done your two-streak seven times? I don't think so. 09:13 never streaked in nethack 09:13 I came awfully close to streaking once in dcss though 09:13 the 2nd game lost at the equivalent to the sanctum 09:14 never streaked other roguelikes 09:16 <{Demo}> im surprised by that 09:16 <{Demo}> seeing as didnt u win ur first dcss game? 09:16 I've never even *heard* of anyone streaking in Brogue. 09:17 <{Demo}> like, if u can walk into a game and win it on the first play through, you probably play slowly and safely enough to streak? 09:17 -!- teevee has joined #hardfought 09:17 -!- teevee has quit [Quit: teevee] 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1045 points, T:1916, quit 09:29 in the US do you refer to someone running around naked as 'streaking'? 09:30 <{Demo}> yeah 09:31 is that such a common occurrence in the US? I don't think we have a word in Portuguese for that 09:31 No, it's not. 09:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Cen Mal Neu) stole 39499 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kittamagh's second-hand bookstore, on T:1441 09:31 And "streaking" is a very informal/slangy term for it. 09:32 The official term is "indecent exposure". 09:33 tnnt should award a prize to anyone who performs a nudist streak 09:34 XD 09:34 <{Demo}> heh 09:34 :D 09:34 aosdict: i love it 09:34 jonadab: it's only indecent if the equipment is shoddy c: 09:35 aoei: Legally, that is not relevant. 09:35 jonadab: i know lmao 09:35 Doesn't matter if you're a supermodel, or weigh 450 lbs. 09:35 You can end up on the registered sexual offenders list either way. 09:36 thats a bit fat-shamey isn't it jonadab 09:36 <{Demo}> no its fair cause the law dont care 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1219 09:36 aoei: My point was that it makes no difference. 09:36 jonadab: i know 09:36 but your point used a trope 09:36 to get across its message 09:37 a trope some might see as problematic 09:37 * jonadab shrugs. 09:37 aosdict that's such a good idea 09:37 amateurhour: isn't it? 09:37 i am 100% in favour of this 09:37 throw it on the etherpad and complain loudly till someone makes it happen 09:38 Heh. 09:38 aoei: FWIW, I am over median weight myself, even for the Midwest. 09:39 fair enough 09:39 But it is undeniable that the vast overwhelming bulk of society draws an inverse correlation between high weight and attractiveness. 09:39 This isn't important to me; but it is the way society is. 09:39 welllll yeah 09:39 but i think there is something to be said about reinforcing that with use of langauge and tropes 09:40 im not saying its a big deal i just wanted to draw attention to it 09:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Cen Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2209 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1142 points, T:2398, killed by a giant rat 09:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Cen Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3115 09:55 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5422 09:58 jonadab: were you trying to pun on the phrase "vast overwhelming bulk" 09:59 Actually, no, that was a coincidence. 09:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 15928 points, T:4112, killed by a mumak 09:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Arc Hob Fem Neu), 27 points, T:32, killed by an electric shock 10:01 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 118008 points, T:16061, killed by a large cave lizard 10:01 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:01 well that did suck utterly 10:02 what happened? 10:02 <{Demo}> !lastgame Tangles 10:02 {Demo}: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1534858827.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/slex/dumplog/1523968901.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1600611273.dnh.txt 10:03 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:04 ah, some nasty mobs 10:05 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 122 points, T:541, killed by a goblin 10:08 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6467 10:10 amateurhour: a weeping angel levelported me out of depth 10:11 Yikes 10:11 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:12 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 378 points, T:1535, died of starvation 10:12 heh. that one actually starved. 10:14 <{Demo}> that's impressive 10:14 Next game, T:130ish - You have a little trouble lifting f - 2 food rations. 10:14 <{Demo}> usually just die when faintedfrom attacks 10:14 lol yep. 10:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 5624 points, T:3087, killed by a baby owlbear, while reading a book 10:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 40 points, T:119, killed by a falling rock 10:18 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 389 points, T:834, killed by a grid bug 10:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gnomes), on T:781 10:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4637 10:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Fierna, on T:193389 10:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 2960 points, T:2160, killed by a baby owlbear, while dragging an iron ball 10:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3148 10:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) had a plumed helmet entrusted to him by Crom, on T:1615 10:28 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 222 points, T:635, killed by a newt 10:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) had a dwarvish helm entrusted to him by Crom, on T:4819 10:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:34