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04:12 bah, didn't know what I was doing 04:12 got cornered and my plan went to shit 04:12 mobileuser came up with a 200iq strategy for taking them out 04:12 yeah? 04:12 they're probs the nastiest quest boss by far 04:12 definitely harder than master kaen 04:13 what's the 200IQ ploy? 04:13 boulder fort, cursed invis to lure them over 04:13 then read scrolls of fire to nuke them over the boulders 04:13 heh 04:13 nice 04:13 if you have the mp then skilled fireball also works 04:13 but scrolls of fire is fun as a niche 04:14 that's how we discovered it was until recently impossible to wish for fire scrolls :^) 04:14 lol 04:15 the paladin is probs a little easier in vanilla as their equipment can be materials and highly enchanted 04:15 wand of cancellation could help as well 04:15 hm 04:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:29645 04:19 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 04:37 what's this thing that works as intended now? 04:42 ah elenmirie shame :-( 04:43 yes, boulder fort and fire balls are the safest way 04:43 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:47 I was kind of thinking that way but failed to execute the plan properly :( 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:30612 05:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:07 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:10 [hdf-us] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4403 05:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:26116 05:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:3178 05:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7837 points, T:3377, killed by an Elvenking, while frozen by a potion 05:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a bone dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:26950 05:45 my dagger collection is the --ing envy of my friends 05:46 is that a mister tulip quote (assuming thats his name in english) 05:47 yes :-) 05:48 mobileuser when asked why they have so many daggers: https://i.imgur.com/jX67Qg9.png 05:55 lol 05:58 -!- k-man has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Canoness, on T:37395 06:08 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 06:11 What happens if I try to sacrifice to the unaligned altar of an alien god? 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Nalzok, on T:37526 06:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37531 06:12 -!- k-man has joined #hardfought 06:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Cha) killed Aldinach, on T:185233 06:19 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:31332 06:23 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 06:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 06:25 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:30 [hdf-eu] [fh] Leya (zavtraleto) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10870 points, T:254, killed by a water demon's wand 06:31 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:37 blep 06:37 i am currently in a high risk corona area so i have to make a test and go into quarantine when i come back to germany 06:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Cha) killed the hateful whispers, on T:185770 06:45 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 06:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Cha) killed Kostchtchie, on T:185816 06:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a steel dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:27459 06:53 are you missing any materials mobileuser? 06:54 crystal knife? 06:55 dagger I mean 06:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2356 07:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2751 points, T:2475, killed by an orc-captain 07:14 <@Theyflower> if you have extrinsic teleportitis from a ring or something will eating a tengu corpse allow you to obtain intrinsic teleport control? 07:17 Yes 07:17 they're independent properties 07:18 You can even still get intrinsic teleport control if you have teleport control from another source. 07:18 <@Theyflower> oh, so when you eat a tengu you roll separately for each? 07:18 You can get up to one, but not both 07:19 <@Theyflower> so extrinsic teleportitis will not block it from giving you that intrinsic? 07:19 <@Theyflower> dang i thought extrinsics blocked the same intrinsic 07:21 well, they don't 07:21 they just supercede it if you have both. 07:27 <@Theyflower> so i can get extrinsic poison resistance 07:28 <@Theyflower> and then boom eat all the poisoned corpses 07:29 yeah 07:29 yes, you will get the message 'You feel especially healthy' 07:29 when you get intrinsic PR when you already have extrinsic PR 07:33 All of them 07:33 (except cockatrices) 07:33 <@Theyflower> but if you poly to be made of stone you can eat them 07:33 <@Theyflower> right? 07:34 <@Theyflower> or do you lose intrinsics on poly or some crap 07:34 Sure 07:34 If you turn into a stoning resistant form, you can eat cockatrice corpses and you'll still have poison resistance. Enjoy. 07:35 i've gotten them both from same tengu corpse once in evilhack. it suprised me 07:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3177 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3828 points, T:4194, killed by a dingo 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:46847 07:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:46853 07:54 not a bad choice if you want to break weaponless rebatela 08:00 broke the conduct a long time ago, but i've been using martial arts so far 08:01 martial arts is great as a giant anyway, no idea if their bonus to clubs is actually worth it 08:02 i saw yesterday that sluggoman was playing a monk in evil (not giant) and wished for dragonhide kicking boots? I wonder how much that helps with grand master martial arts, because sometimes you do get extra kicking attacks 08:03 [backscroll] Isn't it weird that poisoning yourself can make you feel healthy? 08:03 what doesn't kill u can cause u to become weak and have little strength 08:03 or whatever the proverb is 08:04 rebatela, that would be cool; you do lose speed though 08:06 yeah sometimes i will wear water walking or jumping boots and stack the haste spell 08:07 I'm' doing that with reflection now and it's a little scary, but frees amulet slot 08:07 can kicking boots be dragonhide? I thought they were metal 08:07 but i didn't even realize kicking boots were magical i had to read wiki 08:07 maybe he didn't get his wish? 08:07 i thought they were metal too 08:07 i just saw Beholder announce 08:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6329 points, T:7723, killed by a lizard, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:36 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha), 762 points, T:1666, killed by a pony 08:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) was given Sickle Moon, on T:47010 08:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28371 08:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) was given the Beastmaster's Duster, on T:47336 08:49 kicking boots are metal, they cant be dragonhide 08:49 better to wish for them as mithril 08:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) became the Hand of Eilistraee, on T:48138 08:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 263656 points, T:29133, crushed to death by a collapsing drawbridge 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:1564 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1700 09:12 -!- Alasnuyo has left #hardfought 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 14921 points, T:3230, killed by a giant spider, while sleeping off a magical draught 09:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:32091 09:36 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:17493 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh4] Bite (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 26221 points, T:1518, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered Hobbo, his faithful red mold, on T:10079 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 49 points, T:201, killed by a newt 10:11 haha that went well. 10:11 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 181993 points, T:18529, killed by brainlessness 10:14 was not really invested in that game anyway. 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Law) averted death (burned by molten lava), on T:60374 10:14 too bad it won't leave bones there. 10:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) averted death, on T:50095 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 erodeproof dragonhide T-shirt", on T:60469 10:22 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 207 points, T:1276, killed by a jackal 10:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:25 -!- mobileuser58 has joined #hardfought 10:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 10:31 -!- mobileuser58 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:33 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 224 points, T:574, killed by touching Mirror Brand 10:33 heheheh 10:39 glad you're in good spirits about it 10:39 is that really a 'good spirit' or the beginning of insanity 10:39 hard to get mad when you're only 574 turns in I suppose 10:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Law) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:34013 10:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Law) killed Mother Hydra, on T:34018 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:11922 10:53 Who says insanity isn't a good spirit to be in? 10:56 fair enough 10:56 It was a nice unique death, is all. I was going to die anyway :) 10:58 In the end, we all do. 10:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:13191 11:10 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 251 points, T:732, killed by a gnome zombie 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 1706 points, T:1927, killed by a pony 11:15 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 284 points, T:684, killed by a fox 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Pri Hob Fem Law) became permanently transformed into a hobbit zombie, on T:1838 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Pri Hob Fem Law), 717 points, T:1840, killed while stuck in creature form, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:25 ^ such a rare event 11:25 only lasted 2 turns :( 11:26 would love to see someone make it and actually ascend if they got zombified and didnt die from it 11:26 aosdict, has anyone done that in xnethack yet? 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:14556 11:28 You can ascend while feeling dead inside 11:29 though that's kinda easy if you just genocide yourself on the high altar. 11:31 heh 11:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:24978 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] Jim (jmccro) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 25482 points, T:1431, killed by a giant mimic 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2646 points, T:2853, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:36 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 273 points, T:1099, died of starvation 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] widmerpool (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:23360 11:42 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 198 points, T:784, killed by a gecko 11:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:51307 11:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1029 points, T:1293, killed by an arrow, while praying 11:52 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 11:53 -!- bugsniper_ has 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unpredictable 12:24 EPI: every time a zombie hits the player or another monster, all the zombies on the level gain max HP. 12:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] thorsb (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2107 points, T:2629, killed by a giant spider 12:25 Also, EPI: if a zombie walks through a graveyard, all the corpses can get up and become zombies. 12:26 note to K2: just because a patch idea is evil doesn't mean it's destined to be added to evilhack 12:26 I think he's cognizant of that 12:26 Yes, K2 is not LT. 12:26 He actually has a filter. 12:27 Where before adding something, he asks, "Do I actually want this in the game?" 12:27 And if it sounds like a terrible idea, the answer is usually no. 12:28 Even LT has a filter, and that question is the same question she asks herself :) 12:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by an ettin mummy), on T:3810 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:1703 12:28 aosdict: So she claims, but there's no hard evidence that it's true. 12:29 does it annoy the player? then it works as intended 12:29 *grumblegrumble* 12:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:4126 12:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:11362 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2137 12:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] thorsb (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 549 points, T:1653, killed by a coyote 12:38 I admit I don't like the cavalierness of declaring bugs to be features 12:39 Eh, there are times when that's warranted. LT is just really bad at knowing when, and when not. 12:39 it's one thing to say "this is a behemoth game and I am aware of this bug but fixing it is not a priority and it shouldn't be expected that it'll get fixed", something else to say "this bug is now an officially supported part of the game and it is wrong to change it" 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1973 points, T:2706, killed by a Woodland-elf 12:40 If I were working from 3.4, I'd declare the AI bug wherein pets attack peacefuls, to be a feature. 12:40 But working from NH4, I inherited it already fixed. 12:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:48426 12:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6052 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 6339 points, T:3935, killed by a black unicorn 12:45 Declaring bugs to be features is okay if done rarely. (And even then usually you want to change the code in some way to make it more stable or whatever.) 12:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41009 12:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8079 12:54 <{Demo}> thats a bug? 12:55 like how minesflayer was somehow justified to be a feature, not a bug 12:55 <{Demo}> whats worse is when design decisions u dont like are declared as bugs so u can have full excuse to axe them 12:55 <{Demo}> what the hell is this about pets attacking peacefuls being a bug? 12:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha), 39492 points, T:14319, killed by a mountain centaur zombie 12:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Law) killed the invisible Belial, on T:41217 12:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Law) killed Fierna, on T:41219 12:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Law) killed Naome, on T:41220 13:03 Yeah, that wasn't ever declared a bug by the original authors (the vanilla devteam), it was just nh4 that considered it a bug 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:62527 13:07 feels intentional though, like one of the rewards of even raising a pet is so you can feign ignorance as they're nibbling at their toes 13:07 stenno: when did DT say minesflayers specifically were a feature not a bug 13:08 <{Demo}> vampires not reviving as bats and stuff was actually a bug 13:08 <{Demo}> thats why they had to add it 13:08 <{Demo}> speed not being randomized was a bug actually 13:08 <{Demo}> thats why they had to ruin it 13:10 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 13:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 23006 points, T:10712, killed by a yeti, while praying 13:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed Everdying's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4535 13:12 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:4724 13:13 [backscroll] hahah 13:13 aosdict: they didn't say it explicitely, but it was never listed as a bug, even though iirc it was reported 13:13 gonna make an 'amateurhour' mode for eveilhack 13:14 evilhack even 13:14 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:14 amateurhour mode will be: if there's an EPI, its included 13:14 ^ EPI 13:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:54523 13:17 K2 you're describing slex evilvariant mode 13:18 slex and epi mode mixed together 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5252 13:18 * K2 shudders 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 6672 points, T:5252, killed by a watchman, while praying 13:19 aosdict: from before, yeah of course in zombie form you'd need to beef up your hit points. I was just wondering aloud if anyone had actually ascended that way in xnh 13:20 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed Everdying's ghost, the former Adept, on T:5127 13:30 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 14078 points, T:5957, killed by a hobgoblin 13:30 -!- shadowcat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2232 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1242 points, T:4121, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 743 points, T:2531, killed by a pony 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 3211 points, T:2606, killed by a jaguar 14:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:17 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 14:23 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:31 [hdf-us] [dyn] groovejumper (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 5028 points, T:4514, killed by a wolf 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh4] jim (jmccro) (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 36957 points, T:3502, killed by an invisible bugbear 14:35 -!- irina|log has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:36 -!- irina|log has joined #hardfought 14:36 -!- irina|log is now known as Guest59368 14:42 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:20803 14:49 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 7744 points, T:4405, killed by a rabid rat 14:53 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 14:53 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (kornbluth.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 14:53 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 14:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 8 points, T:135, killed by a sewer rat 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1725 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:30963 15:26 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh4] jim (jmccro) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 14824 points, T:855, killed by a red mold 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3259 points, T:1680, killed by a straw golem 15:33 ps aux 15:33 oops, wrong window :D 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 924 points, T:2086, killed by a giant bat, while dragging an iron ball 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "the blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:22166 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] jim (jmccro) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 20901 points, T:1031, killed by a kobold 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3073 15:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1873 points, T:1509, killed by a rothe 15:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:46 amateurhour: what do you want me to change the intention to? also lol :D 15:46 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-09-16 04:11 EDT: [on etherealoids getting hungry] if it 'works as intended' then change intention... 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3611 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] jim (jmccro) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 21236 points, T:943, killed by a giant mimic 15:50 if the intention is restrictions, which I like, then not being able to poly and never getting hungry make a lot more sense 15:50 you can't ever eat to get intrinsics 15:51 I notice with interest that your last eth commit says 15:51 "This is not playtested, it may be relatively unbalanced and need a bunch of changes." 15:51 hello its me ur favorit grumpy playtester 15:51 haha 15:52 well the part where they can poly will remain for now and the part where they can get hungry by things other than natural hunger over time will definitely remain 15:52 since I didn't actually see your game, I don't know whether you got hungry due to wearing jewelry, spellcasting etc. (intentional) or just over time without doing anything that increases hunger (bug) 15:52 that reminds me I have a great idea for a new race for slex 15:52 but I wizmoded an eth monk and didn't get hungry over time so there shouldn't be a bug 15:53 heh, feel free to give me the idea, but beware, I might twist it into something that you find crappy :D 15:53 let's call it... incorporealoid 15:53 LarienTelrunya: you probably stumbled into a silent invisible trap that makes you never get hungry but will make you die without any warning at turn 20000 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh4] jim (jmccro) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 11934 points, T:528, killed by an exploding large box 15:55 (it's basically a fixed version of etherealoid) 15:55 fixed? so it cannot rust or burn? 15:56 fixed as noncorporeal so cannot poly, doesn't start with worn armour 15:56 and never gets hungry 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1605 points, T:4096, killed by a soldier ant 16:00 sounds boring 16:01 ...wat 16:02 also you probably have that in ndnh already so if you want that, you can play ndnh :D 16:02 yes it's in ndnh already and it's mint 16:02 in slex I have my own version of the eth race that I happen to like more 16:02 yeah so I have a suggested new race :D 16:02 isn't more variety the name of the game? 16:03 <@riker> i want a new race thats callled "manuh" and its just human but the game is mirrored 16:03 <@riker> er, namuh i guess 16:06 heh, while it's true that I want to have a lot of variety in slex, new stuff that gets added has to fit the general theme of slex 16:06 ...how doesn't it fit? 16:07 first, hunger is a part of the game and there shouldn't be such an easy way to completely disable it, and second, I'm not a fan of having races not start with worn stuff, even if the race has trouble equipping stuff 16:08 forget it I give up 16:09 it might be a surprise, but I don't simply implement every idea that gets mentioned and every patch that will run ;) 16:10 well you won't implement any idea of mine ever 16:10 despite all the best intentions 16:10 maybe I will, if they're good 16:11 but (please don't take this personal) your ideas seem to be based on making the game easier and/or accomodate your personal playing style instead of being in line with the slex development philosophy :P 16:11 but it's just not worth writing a 10 page on essay on how [idea] will still be ridiculously difficult because [slex insanity] 16:12 amateurhour, start dropping acid. then your ideas might conform to slex design philosophy 16:12 *might* 16:12 ok i 16:12 I 16:12 I've taken acid now, so I have this great new idea for a race in slex 16:12 I'm starting to think slex is a cult 16:12 lol 16:12 let's call it... incorporealoid 16:13 and what will it do? snort acid, howl at the moon and pretend to be a kangaroo? :D 16:13 in order to play slex you must have incorruptible and permanent faith in Amy 16:13 how does forcing people to split their stacks of potions to dilute them one by one fit in with the slex philosophy 16:13 What is the Slex-Philosophy? 16:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1593 16:14 you don't have to do that, just keep dipping the entire stack, it will eventually dilute it; that's what I do too (of course, if the stack is finalized, neither a split stack nor an entire stack will ever dilute) 16:14 if you lack faith in the Amy, you'll get irritated at things, try to change them, and she'll smile and say "no, that is not in line with the slex development philosophy :P" 16:14 did 3.7 do something to the tourist quest? the shops on the goal level are deserted and the barracks are empty 16:14 only those with pure faith will prevail 16:15 also there were no guides on the home level and two flower was wnadering around off the throne 16:15 if you find something that's very obviously pointlessly annoying dw it works as intended, despite no real boost to challenge/entertainment/anything but frustration 16:15 this is xnh but i don't think aosdict made changes like this 16:15 amateurhour: you don't have the slex gene, therefore you don't see why those things are necessary for the game ;) 16:16 hothraxxa: no it's possible I botched something there 16:16 yeah I think I'm done with slex now 16:16 got it out of my system 16:16 hothraxxa: in 3.7 wizmode the shops are fine 16:16 aww, well your choice 16:16 aosdict: why would you be messing with the tourist quest? 16:16 I didn't mess with the quest 16:17 right so i suspect a 3.7 mess 16:17 could it be that the soldiers are extinct or something? 16:17 what I messed with was a vanilla patch that unified specifications for "filled" and "prefilled" on rooms/regions 16:17 i don't think so. the upper levels had their soldiers but i haven't found ludios or a barracks 16:18 tbh it's a relief because i don't have magic resistance or reflection yet 16:18 in other news, today I bought yet another new pair of shooooooooooes ♥♥♥ 16:18 i locked up all the barracks and ran for it and hoped not to step on a poly trap 16:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a pair of cloth speed boots entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6962 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1442 points, T:2817, killed by a pony, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:21 hothraxxa: twoflower started moving when a centaur displaced him 16:21 in my game 16:22 barracks, zoo, graveyard on the locate level seems fine... 16:22 but shops are deserted 16:24 barracks, shops, graveyard on the goal level all empty 16:24 yep all missing filled flags 16:25 well i miss the loot but not the soldiers 16:26 so this isn't something I did directly, it's an indirect result of unifying "prefilled" and "filled" and having filled default to 0 on all rooms and regions 16:26 ugh I guess I have to audit all special levels now... 16:27 thanks for informing me 16:28 always a pleasure 16:30 amateurhour: What, don't you like for your game to be "fleecy"? 16:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:3697 16:33 I actually enjoyed that aspect of the game jonadab, there's a lot of really cool things in slex 16:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a stone long sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:1393 16:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7941 points, T:4281, killed by a piranha 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 901 points, T:2934, killed by a piranha 16:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 2185 points, T:3179, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:26879 16:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26881 16:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 328 points, T:1310, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 16:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 400 points, T:1240, killed by a large mimic 16:58 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 17:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 bone gauntlets of power", on T:1991 17:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a dusty cloak entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:8170 17:10 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:10 -!- Menchers has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:12 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6722 17:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:4047 17:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:4155 17:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Traveler, on T:27519 17:36 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 54 points, T:343, killed by a bear trap 17:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5466 17:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:44 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:6940 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51415 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51417 17:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:93461 18:02 I need to run into some PCs w/ wands of death... none in this game despite much polypiling 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 125 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:40602 18:08 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of snow boots on an altar, on T:9401 18:12 [hdf-eu] [gh] commodore96 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 760 points, T:1811, killed by a wolf 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:41371 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 762 points, T:2712, killed by a magic missile 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 35 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:41610 18:22 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:22 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:253 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42883 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42884 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law), 17616 points, T:19483, killed by an Uruk-hai, while fainted from lack of food 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3911 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5675 points, T:3935, poisoned by a gray fungus, while praying 18:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:53073 18:47 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 25227 points, T:11031, killed by a soldier ant 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Geryon, on T:63241 18:55 gg sluggoman! 18:57 are they on discord? Want him to know i'm cheering on my fellow monk ! i don't think he's made it this far? 18:57 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a crocodile, on T:7680 18:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 22977 points, T:7700, zombified by a giant zombie 19:00 <@microlance> fuck that dorf queen and her poly wand killing an obvious winner, if not for that 19:00 lol oh that sucks 19:01 monsters with poly/cancel wands are a pita 19:02 <@microlance> the poly wand wielders are damn snipers as well. it seems that thing shoots across half a map 19:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:05 the worst is if they get your stash... 19:06 i usually just keep my stuff under a boulder, but that's what makes those crystal chests so great if you heave the means to lock/unlock (the chests can't be polymorphed) 19:08 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 19:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Malcanthet, on T:97052 19:11 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2475 points, T:2828, killed by a bolt of lightning 19:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 822 points, T:2054, killed by a wererat, while praying 19:42 -!- Menchers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 19:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 2652 points, T:2253, killed by a wand 19:58 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 4044 points, T:2614, killed by withering away, while praying 20:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 2231 points, T:3763, killed by a dart 20:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Fuggall, her faithful warhorse, on T:28919 20:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 198 points, T:873, killed by Ms. Kilgarvan; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 20:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1773 points, T:1773, killed by a giant mosquito, while frozen by a potion 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 7069 points, T:2891, killed by a gold golem 20:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a trident entrusted to her by Set, on T:990 20:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:29195 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 129 points, T:449, killed by a jackal 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:34552 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34555 21:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 10926 points, T:7025, killed by a warg 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:34609 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:34813 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:34814 21:37 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 21:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 21:39 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 21:39 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 21:40 <@riker> in the past 2 minutes, my laptop battery has jumped from 6%, to 11%, to 8%, to 2%, and now that I've plugged it in it instantly changed from 2% to 4% 21:40 <@riker> i am growing more and more concerned. it can't be that hard to get a consistent battery reading? 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 10038 points, T:5445, killed by a wolf 21:46 @riker that's normal. 21:46 <@riker> i know, i'ts not the first time it's happened. but it always bothers me 21:47 batteries are chemical, not mechanical, so there's no linear gradient 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 703 points, T:1129, killed by a rock mole 21:47 so the "linear" percentage is a mapping from a parabolic curve 21:47 and that curve is updated by the firmware of the battery controller during the battery's life 21:48 (because it changes as the battery ages) 21:48 and it's least accurate at the bottom 21:48 So, basically: yes: it's hard to get an accurate battery reading at the low end. 21:49 just physics, nothing nerfarious or particularly concerning. 21:49 This has been your Electrical Engineering lesson of the day. o/ 21:51 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52 in fact, at the low end, your device may shut down from not getting enough power, and then you may be able to start it up again to do low-power things 21:52 my phone works like that 21:53 it shuts down when it's at 10% power while running waze, for example 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1088 21:57 yes, at the low end, a battery isn't "empty" as much as it's "incapable of producing the required amount of voltage differential for the load to operate correctly" 22:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 208 points, T:744, killed by a gnome king 22:05 <@riker> hackedhead: hm. i'm not good at the whole electrical engineering thing, but that makes a lot of sense actually 22:06 <@riker> since some phones are notorious for having the last 5% or so percent of your battery last forever compared to the top 5% and whatnot 22:07 hackedhead: is this related to how battery power (at least for disposable chemical batteries, maybe not li-ion) seems to recharge on its own when left alone for a while? 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 210 points, T:1113, killed by a fox, while unconscious from rotten food 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 40 points, T:147, killed by a goblin 22:10 -!- bugsniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 22:10 -!- bugsniper__ has joined #hardfought 22:10 -!- bugsniper__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4581 22:17 aosdict: perhaps. batteries certainly don't self-recharge, but as the chemicals inside move around due to mechanical or perhaps diffusion, and so at some later time, more reactants might be available at the anode for energy production 22:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Daughter Lilith, on T:98923 22:19 @riker, yeah it's not that the "last 5% lasts a long time" it's that "welp, no idea how fast this part of the curve is depleted/how long this battery can keep producing 'just-barely-enough' voltage, so we're gonna call that 5% until we see something change" 22:20 <@riker> yeah, it's just "i'm really bad at measuring 5%" 22:20 similarly, the top end of the curve is rather more aggressively partitioned (dropping from 3.18V to 3.16V might be considered 98%->92%), 22:21 whereas at the low end (3.04 -> 3.02) might be 6% to 5% 22:21 it's all empirical and imperfect 22:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Crone Lilith, on T:99075 22:23 <@riker> that's pretty neat actually 22:23 <@riker> i've never really put much thought into electrical engineering, my interests don't lie in that at all, but that's cool to know 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Kni Hum Mal Law), 446 points, T:741, killed by a hobbit 22:33 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 348 points, T:1129, killed by a gnome 22:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Mother Lilith, on T:99660 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] DexSG (Kni Hum Mal Law), 233 points, T:1340, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Yoshi 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1302 points, T:1554, quit 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:2828 22:53 That probably explains why my laptop stays on 100% for a while after being unplugged and then suddenly drops to 02% 22:53 92%* 22:58 YANI: tulpas, a perhaps W-class monster that is exclusively summoned by casters, particularly monk-types and Master Kaen. They may take on some of the properties of their caster, and leave no corpse. 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