00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 740 points, T:690, killed by a magic missile 00:09 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 1087 points, T:2125, killed by a wombat 00:11 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 917 points, T:1292, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a potion 00:16 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:19 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:1280 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1281 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:1289 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:1308 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:1311 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:1312 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:1322 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1556 points, T:1985, killed by a white unicorn 00:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 708 points, T:1039, killed by an orc zombie 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2276 00:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 419 points, T:821, killed by a bolt of cold 00:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3092 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3146 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3008 01:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1237 points, T:1649, killed by a gnome lady 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3649 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3663 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a food ration on an altar, on T:3670 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5298 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1054 points, T:6175, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:24494 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:25625 02:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4694 points, T:3456, killed by a gnomish wizard 02:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 290 points, T:2278, killed by a cave spider 02:23 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 02:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3614 02:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3670 02:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3714 02:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 780 points, T:2000, killed by a kobold lord 02:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:48 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:28543 02:53 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:55 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 03:32 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 281 points, T:310, killed by a newt, while reading a book 03:34 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 76 points, T:13, burned by a tower of flame 03:42 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 2228 points, T:1876, killed by a rope golem 04:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 04:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Shan Lai Ching, on T:31200 04:23 -!- Mencherino has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10282 04:46 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:54 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10847 05:04 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:21 -!- {Demo} has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:26 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 05:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:35031 05:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "The Master Key of Thievery", on T:11860 05:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Thidwick's ghost, the former Digger, on T:7602 06:02 -!- stenno1 is now known as stenno 06:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 8873 points, T:8441, killed by an invisible nalfeshnee 06:19 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in] 06:19 -!- Dracunos has joined #hardfought 06:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2910 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3169 07:11 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 07:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 07:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Field Worker, on T:4321 07:26 [hdf-au] [xnh] spectre (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:1869 07:27 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/753577261520912454/unknown.png 07:27 <@spectra> This is the second time this has happened 😭 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2298 points, T:4746, killed by a snake 07:29 huh, which variant, xnh? 07:30 <@spectra> Yea, xnh 07:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3276 07:33 [hdf-au] [evil] spectre (Inf Ith Fem Una), 106 points, T:118, killed by an electric shock 07:40 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed Glasya, on T:47932 07:42 So... is the position of the downstairs in Nessus _actually_ random? 07:42 Pretty sure I ask this every time lol 07:54 The bachelor drinks a potion of gain level! The bachelor seems more experienced. The sergeant drinks a potion of speed! The sergeant is suddenly moving faster. The sergeant drinks a potion of gain level! The sergeant rises up, through the ceiling! 07:56 random potion quaffing to escape a formidable foe... we've all been there. 07:57 Hmm the downstairs were with Daemon. I guess it is random after all. 07:58 Also he was not standing on them, and was asleep, so I just walked straight past him. I'm sure that'll come back to bite me later. 08:00 if you cursed gain level to get into nessus again you probs won't be next to them 08:03 Yeah I might do that when I have the amulet. I don't seem to have the candelabrum yet, so maybe I forgot to deal with Vlad on this run. 08:03 I don't think I stashed it anywhere. 08:03 If I did, that might be a problem... because I started this game ages ago and I can't remember. 08:06 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48488 08:06 lol yep 08:16 my last game, explored the entire dungeon no altars, had to convert minetown. This game? I'm on DL 8 and have found 7 altars so far! 08:17 lol that sounds about right. 08:17 of course in that game i had a cursed magic lamp and no way to bless 08:21 I like dnh's guaranteed holy water 08:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:35 ...and my game crashed and now won't even attempt to restore. 08:35 uh oh 08:35 <{Demo}> hey tangles, contact the server admin for restore 08:36 :^) 08:36 <{Demo}> wait it's dnh and it's fucked? 08:36 <{Demo}> what happened? 08:37 looking 08:39 RNG is not giving me any sacrifice gifts anymore 08:39 crashed with SIGABRT again. 08:39 nothing in the backtrace 08:40 put in aquaramine stone into bag and got 'replace_object: obj position' fatal panic 08:40 according to ttyrec 08:40 aquamarine* 08:40 1597935109 Tangles: panic replace_object: obj position 08:41 that's all you get, unfortunately. 08:41 shame it doesn't log what obj->where was 08:42 any coredump? 08:43 yeah 08:43 not usefuk 08:43 lol 08:43 usefuL 08:43 might be possible to load it and inspect? 08:44 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 08:44 Yes, possible. Not useful 08:44 (gdb) bt 08:44 #0 __GI_raise (sig=17758) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:37 08:44 #1 0x00007f063ba8d02a in __GI_abort () at abort.c:87 08:44 #2 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () 08:44 That's the entire backtrace 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 753 points, T:1145, killed by a little dog 08:47 Anyway, it's restored back to the start of the level. 08:47 Let's BUC-test these 100 wands again, and see how far we get! :) 09:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:01 crashed again... putting stuff in the magic chest. 09:01 Not sure specifically which item... can test further. 09:03 amateurhour: what does dnh do with holy water? I don't know if I like that. As much as I was bitching about the RNG/altars, I think I like that part of the game. Sometimes making holy water is a huge part of the early game and a literal "game changer" 09:04 it certainly gives you focus when you have a cursed magic lamp ! 09:04 <{Demo}> crashed putting stuff into magic chest? jesus 09:05 rebatela: It's in vlad's tower, so not trivial to get to in the very early game, but doable once you get to a certain point in the game. 09:05 <{Demo}> its possible u have a corrupt state? 09:05 oh. yeah I would never go that far without holy water lol 09:05 rebatela: vlad's is a breanch off the mines in dnh. 09:05 branch 09:05 oh ok 09:05 that's cool! 09:06 {Demo}: possible. 09:06 This game has been going for a while, and has crashed here before. 09:07 i died in moloch's that game to a salamnder drowning me because i am an idiot and i wasn't paying attention, but that whole game and the motivation for it came from there not being an altar in the main dungeon and it pissed me off and i refused to die 09:07 i wanted that wish! 09:07 and it allllll comes down to holy water. So it's a big thing to just guarantee. Kind of changes the game completely imo 09:08 drowning me in lava* 09:08 sometimes you're forced to use confused remove curse 09:08 yep 09:08 that's a good trick 09:09 but of course the trick is to find a blessed scroll :-) 09:09 which without holy water can be a problem :b 09:09 {Demo}: last thing that went into the chest at the end of the ttyrec was some eggs. Not sure if that's relevant. 09:09 the funny thing is i was watching you play the other day mobileuser, and I'm sure you had a greased cloak or something but you were kind of non-chalant around the salamanders... It prompted me to ask on here, "those things can drown you right? They scare me!!" and amateurhour replied yes they can 09:10 and then i F$8CK@G died to one getting the amulet 09:10 I was playing with an oilskin cloak for most of the game 09:10 i escaped through the messages 09:10 so mad at myself 09:10 so riskless at that point 09:11 {Demo}: recovered again, tried putting _only_ the eggs in.... *boom* crashed again. 09:11 but it's something i had thought about earlier. ENough to ask on here and then it's what gets me lol 09:11 Might have to chuck those eggs against a wall instead. 09:11 for the ascension run I had to ditch the oilskin cloak for cloak of MR, from that point on I was extremely careful around salamanders 09:12 that said, I question the logistics just from a phsyics standpoint of a salamnder pulling down a giant who can't be engulfed etc. 09:12 ^yes 09:12 I thought the same 09:12 there's a tradeoff 09:13 cuz giant is a pita 09:14 but you avoid a lot of early YASD's if you can't be engulfed 09:14 yeah it's great 09:14 not great enough for me ;-) 09:16 {Demo}: Tried putting in the whole collection of items _except_ the eggs, no crash. 09:17 i'm used to losing the armor slot because i always play monks anyway, but losing the t-shirt and cloak slot is what makes it hard 09:21 ah eggs are weird 09:21 can you preserve that save for gdb goodness? 09:23 <{Demo}> this is weird 09:23 <{Demo}> bad egg 09:28 also giants are aggravating monster from the getgo and can never get stealth. pros and cons 09:30 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3640 09:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3677 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:7013 09:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a pair of water walking boots entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:37951 09:35 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3757 09:37 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) was given Release from Care, on T:49162 09:38 bit late in the game for that.... just wanted some 4-leaf clovers. 09:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a steam vortex, on T:3650 09:40 fair enough 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:7301 09:40 smoky sleeping potion w00t 09:40 throw it to the priests of the unknown god :^) 09:40 nice one rebatela 09:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3731 09:42 I think my smoky potion will be polymorph, have yet to find one 09:43 yeah they seem rare (polymorph) 09:44 i *like how in evil, monsters will throw them at you! 09:44 is that from grunthack? 09:44 i've lost my robe in like the first level of the mines to that 09:45 rebatela: if you like various evil things screwing you over perhaps you would non-ironically like slex 09:45 I have smoky oil in this game.... should give a small chance of turning an oil lamp into a magic lamp when refilling it. 09:45 YANI^ 09:45 i've tried playing slex 09:45 i like it 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Curate, on T:36444 09:47 now i have pyec though so i can take a polymorph potion off the dome piece 09:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4266 10:08 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 10:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Law), 5847 points, T:5606, killed by a fire ant 10:14 been reading up on cancellation of monsters and it's surprisingly powerful. but brain attacks by flayers/alhoons keep working unfortunately :-) 10:16 nice, I can cast cancellation at 0% failure rate now 10:16 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49739 10:17 ...and I've typo-rung the bell of opening twice now this game. Still have one charge left. 10:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a magical conical hat entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:38225 10:20 a blessed fireproof +3 dunce cap 10:20 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:49808 10:20 really Thoth? 10:20 mobileuser: didnt you alredy have MBane or did that lil hobbit die? 10:21 My rincewind hobbit is now a powerful wizard :-) 10:21 sick 10:21 did you get the Ruby of Voldesadt? 10:21 uh... 10:22 ah falcenhoof ;-) 10:22 yes and if you haven't seen that one yet 10:22 you are in for a treat 10:23 bookmarked but still need to watch :b 10:23 fair 10:26 poor falconhoof always seems so sad at the end of each call :c 10:27 https://youtube.be/xfKhDiUNOG0 classic 10:30 being able to cast cancel/polymorph is the best 10:30 so convenient. don't need water soure 10:30 fairly hefty Pw cost tho right? 10:31 the wands become annoying because you don't want to leave them laying around, can't put in boh 10:31 tru 10:31 yeah but you only cast it here and there, and by the time you can cast it you definitely have the eye anyway 10:31 but you can use and recharge them 10:32 altho you can also use charging scrolls to recharge yourself 10:32 so 10:32 mb latter more efficient 10:32 a wizard with the eye gets allt there pw back really fast 10:32 or a monk with the eye... 10:32 can confirm 10:32 (i always wish for it) 10:32 well 10:32 [hdf-au] [slex] naoky (Val Ang Fem Law), 226 points, T:736, killed by a monster (angry watch captain) 10:32 if you want to be fast the Pw costs still matter 10:33 the Eye does have some limits 10:33 lol 10:34 very fast polyform with speed boots and jumping spell probably optimal when you can't teleport 10:34 my last game i had stacked reflection spell for like 10k turns and if i wwanted i could have done the same with haste self and then been able to wear dragonhide jumping boots. Can't do that w/out the eye tho 10:35 fast high damage polyform optimal if fighting is necessary 10:35 you can cast healing a lot fairly cheaply 10:35 and recharge with confused charging if necessary 10:35 aoei evilhack speedrun when? ;-) 10:35 mobileuser: lol that'd be so bad-ass 10:35 but i can't even beat regular evilhack yet 10:36 do you play? It's not THAT hard. I'm sure you could 10:36 I haven't killed a huge number of chars yet 10:37 the records say I died 23 times and scummed 0 10:38 Your wizard did pretty well I see 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh4] Marsh (jmccro) (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 7556 points, T:412, killed by a wand 10:39 heh yeah 10:39 DONT FUCK WITH ANYTHING ON THIS LEVEL. 10:39 longest to stay alive 10:39 and highest score 10:39 That must have been that famous crashing game 10:40 oooh maybe 10:40 i don't recall how some bastard air elemental got me in the end 10:40 dlvl6/11 looks like a sokoban death though 10:41 probably was the sokoban zoo 10:41 bastard air E in soko zoo 10:41 oh yes dumplogs exist. it is a sokozoo death lol 10:41 yup 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:7535 10:43 https://youtu.be/xfKhDiUNOG0 classic fix'd 10:46 anywho, seen as im on my computer anyway 10:46 could try and splat a cheeky Evil Barb 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] Marsh (jmccro) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 25913 points, T:1456, killed by a large dog called "Fudd" 10:50 aoei I'll watch on bbc iplayer, that link is blocked in the uk 10:51 i wish i could use bbc iplayer 10:51 so many good things 10:51 i want to watch the louis theroux documentaries again 10:52 <{Demo}> does anybody do twitch streams where you can call in to play an adventure game? 10:53 <{Demo}> I could see this being successful if done right 10:54 <{Demo}> it could work especially well with super super overly live produced shit where you've got all kinds of buttons to play all kinds of various visual effects and shit 11:01 <@riker> i want a twitch stream where i can call in to play an adventure game irl 11:01 <@riker> like i get digimon'd into the screen and bam now i'm the dragonborn 11:03 <{Demo}> it wouldn't be about the callers experience as much as it would the viewer's watching the caller go on an epic quest 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh4] Marsh (jmccro) (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 25435 points, T:1702, killed by a mind flayer 11:25 there is this limmy's show sketch 11:25 where there is a call-in adventure gameshow 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQ11fTRpCg 11:29 stenno: yeah that's what i was linking earlier lol 11:31 oh 11:31 it's so classic 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 11 points, T:97, killed by a falling rock 11:55 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:55 -!- sacredchao has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:3284 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4925 12:00 -!- sacredchao has joined #hardfought 12:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1178 points, T:3897, killed by a gnome zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:04 [hdf-us] [slex] Skullman (Mon Dro Mal Neu), 95257 points, T:7890, killed by a monster (sliding troll) 12:09 -!- Mencherino has joined #hardfought 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6554 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Magician, on T:6652 12:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 cloak of protection", on T:28604 12:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6497 12:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 11295 points, T:6621, killed by a rope golem, while praying 12:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:28988 13:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1578 13:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 980 points, T:1726, killed by an arrow 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh4] Marsh (jmccro) (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 37319 points, T:4566, killed by a pony 13:12 [hdf-us] [dyn] jjj (Karnac) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 24 points, T:42, killed by a sewer rat 13:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] etai (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8439 points, T:7634, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 398 points, T:795, killed by a coyote, while frozen by a potion 13:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Axus, on T:30617 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 869 points, T:1603, killed by a rock mole 13:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Cha) was given Frost Brand, on T:31551 13:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2814 points, T:3289, killed by a large cat, while praying 14:00 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 342 points, T:709, killed by a small mimic 14:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1332 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1650 points, T:1384, killed by a bolt of cold 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:2315 14:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Wiz Hlf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:4366 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1724 points, T:2889, killed by a little dog 14:33 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha), 334 points, T:1281, died of starvation 14:34 Symbiotes are weird 14:35 <{Demo}> they r epic 14:35 <{Demo}> usually the starting move is to inhabit ur pet 14:37 I did that, then I didn't realise they would die when I left them 14:37 <{Demo}> clearly uve not watched enough stargate 14:37 finally got to a monster that had hands, a goblin with 3 hp 14:38 I've seen all of stargate, didn't realise it was like those 14:38 stargate universe is best one don't @ me 14:38 <{Demo}> yeah and u arent a tokra so when u leave, u kill hard cause fuckem 14:38 <{Demo}> no 14:38 <{Demo}> garbage 14:38 yeah but pyramid spaceships tho :c 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Gia Mal Law), 644 points, T:1300, killed by trying to drink molten lava 14:39 <{Demo}> sgu ive tried to watch but its so much less light hearted and so much more dumb feelings drama bullshit 14:39 i never saw sgu 14:39 <{Demo}> didnt miss anything then 14:39 ive seen sg1 and sga in their entirety 14:39 sg1 got really really stupid in the later seasons 14:39 every fuckin ep 14:39 amateurhour: yea kinda 14:39 <{Demo}> sga > sg1 but sg1 is still very good 14:39 <{Demo}> and yeah 14:39 but still overall awesome show 14:40 imo sgu > early seasons of sg1 > sga >>>>> later seasons of sg1 14:40 made me want to be an alien parasite 14:41 sorry, sorry 14:41 *symbiote* 14:41 really cool addition to ndnh though 14:41 neat 14:41 i guess i have to play it now 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Cropper's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:2836 14:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:54 seems like a bad idea to ditch the starting pet for a goblin 14:55 <{Demo}> indeed 14:59 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha), 94 points, T:840, killed by Ms. Walbrzych, the shopkeeper 14:59 god idk what I'm doing as a symbiote 15:00 how does it work with xp and resistances and things? 15:00 can you level up while attacking as a host? 15:00 or does the host level up or whatever instead 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:23675 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 155 points, T:910, killed by a fox 15:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:38718 15:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:38839 15:20 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1264 15:21 ah, that's not an altar it's a shop 15:21 guessing all shopkeepers can't be sybiosised or whatever 15:22 oh no, he can be 15:22 nvm 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 754 points, T:1260, killed by a giant bat 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 582 points, T:978, killed by a dwarf lord 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Sugar, her faithful homunculus, on T:106 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 222 points, T:277, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse, while praying 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 135 points, T:253, killed by a fox, while reading a book 15:49 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:39226 15:58 Demo I don't get any message at all when eating a brown mold corpse as a frost giant 15:59 no feedback at all as to eating it 16:03 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:4087 16:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Seyll Auzkovyn, on T:38326 16:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:39647 16:10 lol club skill! 16:10 finally I can use aklys! :b 16:10 nice! 16:10 woot 16:11 <{Demo}> it's too small 16:11 <{Demo}> that's a vanilla thing 16:11 <{Demo}> corpses of weird amounts don't give messages on munch 16:11 <{Demo}> why? idk 16:11 <{Demo}> has to do with where ur hunger is as well I think 16:13 ah right, that's a weird quirk 16:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:38598 16:14 what monsters are off limits to take over? 16:14 guessing I can't become master kaen for example :P 16:14 amateurhour: do hosts lose viability over time 16:14 or do you just pick a new one as and when you fancy? 16:14 doesn't appear to be 16:15 you get confused for a bit when leaving and when confused you can't take a new host 16:15 hm i see 16:18 <{Demo}> symbiote is also in a state where it is awaiting play so that it can be balanced 16:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Law) wished for "Blessed Fixed +2 Helm of Opposite Alignment", on T:39017 16:22 I wonder if you can become one of those things in the fun water vaults 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:33743 16:22 <{Demo}> there are rolls 16:22 <{Demo}> made on attempting to inhabit 16:22 <{Demo}> that involve ur level and its level 16:22 <{Demo}> how extreme are they? yo i forgot 16:22 can you repeat it over and over? 16:23 <{Demo}> yes but a failure leads to confusion now i think? 16:23 <{Demo}> and now confusion blocks attempts 16:23 took me only two tries to become a frost giant shopkeeper 16:23 <{Demo}> yeah its not a super strict limit 16:23 <{Demo}> idea being that you will go out and seek epic forms 16:23 <{Demo}> no ice trolls? 16:23 didn't get any of their juicy invent if they have anything 16:23 there was one ice troll shopkeeper actually 16:24 do they revive after you 16:24 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:24 and I use this term in its correct sense 16:24 <{Demo}> i would guess so actually lol 16:24 ejaculate from their corpse 16:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:24 <{Demo}> like, if u rekt one yeah it would probably come back to life 16:24 <{Demo}> whack 16:24 <{Demo}> not sure if that could cause problems 16:25 what's the range on taking a host? 16:25 I don't seem to need to be next to them 16:25 <{Demo}> its a roll 16:25 <{Demo}> theres no uper 16:25 <{Demo}> oh 16:25 <{Demo}> uhhh 16:25 <{Demo}> somethimg something ulvl something idk maybe? or it might be fixed 16:26 <{Demo}> definitely LoS required 16:26 <{Demo}> or maybe not 16:26 I was safely trying to implant the shopkeeper from around a corner 16:26 <{Demo}> yeah u might be able to implant through walls i forgot 16:28 gonna try get one of the vault monsters once I know what they are 16:28 I'm assuming the mechanical one wouldn't work 16:28 my plan is to throw a scroll of earth over before trying it so I can get back 16:29 Your host, the Guizengeard the frost giant dies! 16:30 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha), 38294 points, T:6392, killed by a hobbit 16:32 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:33 <{Demo}> bas msg on that shit thanks 16:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:33 <{Demo}> dumbass 16:34 <{Demo}> if i ever find a way to read chat history in the future but it happens in the past, thats for u, me 16:34 haha 16:34 <{Demo}> which isnt even something id put out of the picture 16:35 there is a way to read chat history here fwiw, there's an irc log 16:35 <{Demo}> that only has previous messages 16:35 <{Demo}> not future ones 16:35 <{Demo}> and im not me from the past 16:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 522 points, T:1528, killed by a giant ant 16:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a war hammer entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:40181 16:39 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha), 78 points, T:183, killed by Mr. Corignac, the shopkeeper 16:39 human shopkeepers are apparently off limits 16:40 boo 16:42 <@riker> lol 16:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1063 points, T:1155, quit 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1681 16:48 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:53 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37073 16:53 !who 16:53 FIQ: [hdf-us] sluggoman [evil] dbanethacker [evil] Leggman [nh370] widmerpool [nh370] post163 [nh370] hothraxxa [nh4] Delraven [un] phaperplane2 [dnh] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [ndnh] mobileuser [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:54 iirc Delraven used to be a very prolific un player 16:54 but he vanished 16:55 Demo I prayed myself to death 16:55 Your host, the the floating eye dies! fix_worst_trouble: couldn't cure hands. 16:55 <@riker> i hate it when my hands are sick :( 16:55 it's even worse when ur hands are sick and u dont even have hands :( 16:56 it just straight up killed my host to pray 16:56 <{Demo}> wait what 16:56 <{Demo}> theres no fucking way 16:56 You feel that Huan Ti is pleased. Your interior feels content. Your shape becomes uncertain. 16:56 <{Demo}> yeah no fuck that shit 16:56 <{Demo}> theres no way i didnt account for that 16:57 <{Demo}> i guess ill investigate eventually 16:57 <{Demo}> but what the fuck 16:57 lol 16:57 <{Demo}> that would have to be on the top 5 shits to deal with when i was adding it 16:58 {Demo}: what is amateurhour playing? 16:58 ndnh 16:59 what race 16:59 symbiote 16:59 what is that 16:59 parasitic worm that takes over hosts 16:59 so it's a worm that walks? 16:59 <{Demo}> ndnh symbiote 16:59 I can't remember, is it like a spider-man symbiote or some other type 16:59 slithers I imagine 16:59 <{Demo}> no its not worm that walks 17:00 <{Demo}> its like a stargate goa'uld symbiote 17:01 {Demo}: so I picked symbiote binder 17:01 the game immediately crashed 17:01 o no ;c 17:01 10/10 would play ndnh again 17:01 <@riker> LMAO 17:02 FIQ: play Sil 17:02 I don't really like angband 17:02 it's like nh but you can fire arrows in any direction 17:02 not just hjklyubn 17:02 I prefer ADOM 17:02 ADOM is also cool 17:02 it's also like nh but you can fire arrows in any direction 17:02 true 17:03 i knew i saw that mechanic somewhere else before Sil 17:03 <{Demo}> what 17:03 aoei: recent ADOM versions are ruined 17:03 <{Demo}> whyd it crash 17:03 FIQ: I saw 17:03 it is very sad 17:03 {Demo}: how should I know 17:03 I'm not the dev 17:03 FIQ: I recently went to install ADOM and learned of all this 17:03 but of course i just installed the classic old version which is free 17:04 aoei: what is your definition of ruined out of curiousity? 17:04 it has graphics now ;c 17:04 disgraceful 17:04 oh but that's a non-issue 17:04 <{Demo}> fiq, on eu server? 17:04 <{Demo}> need to steal ur config file 17:04 they make terminal versions too 17:04 FIQ: maybe you know more than I 17:04 why's it ruined 17:04 my problem with recent ADOM is that they ruined key remapping 17:04 I just wasn't keen on the paywalling 17:05 so you can't get vi-keys anymore 17:05 altho its pretty cheap iirc 17:05 aoei: it's fair IMO since 1) you can get free versions too, 2) devs need to make money 17:05 {Demo}: eu yes 17:05 true 17:05 FIQ: but they might start pandering to mainstream gamers who aren't cool roguelike nerds like us 17:05 ok my head is full of awful biases 17:05 leave me alone 17:05 anyway I tracked down the latest version of ADOM that still had working key remapping 17:06 which was 2.3.x something 17:06 +FIQ | so you can't get vi-keys anymore 17:06 wat 17:06 this is disgraceful 17:06 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Mon Sym Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1351 17:06 you lose nothing by keeping it as an option 17:06 NOTHING 17:06 aoei: let me link the adom thread where I complained 17:06 urgh 17:06 shur 17:06 <{Demo}> fiq wtf is ur rc file 17:06 https://www.adom.de/forums/project.php?issueid=5116 17:06 <{Demo}> over 1000 lines! 17:07 {Demo}: it's a modified version of stth's dnh rc file 17:08 <{Demo}> hmm, cant replicate locally 17:08 <{Demo}> !tell k2 ndnh crashed on some dumb shit, is there a fun/sad coredump sitting there? 17:08 Will do, {Demo}! 17:08 "Newbies don't use custom key bindings. No tester I ever played with so far even cam...." 17:08 lmao 17:08 what about roguelike players who are ADOM noobs!! 17:08 surely a large market 17:09 also, if all your testers seem to behave the same way 17:09 you need a more diverse group 17:10 FIQ: please relay my comments to the "adom-admin" person for me 17:10 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 414 points, T:586, killed by a dwarf 17:16 FIQ: you know you been playing too much rougelike and not slept enough when normal text in terminals occasionally parses as a hoard of hostile monsters 17:16 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 17:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 5082 points, T:4572, quit 17:17 aoei: Heh 17:17 I've seen it 17:17 its a weird thing to see 17:19 ever dreamed in ascii 17:20 i dont think so 17:20 hypnagogic imagery *maybe* 17:20 but its common for hypnagogia to mimic anything you've spent an absurd amount of time looking at 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] widmerpool (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3128 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4192 17:23 aosdict: what about you, any dreams with curses graphics? 17:24 I don't dream in curses graphics no 17:25 on account of never using that windowport except to debug 17:25 oh right tty is the normal one 17:25 tty dreams then? 17:25 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 17:29 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1220 points, T:1723, killed by a gecko 17:34 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36476 17:36 I've dreamt of games rarely, but never NetHack I think 17:37 VVVVVV and Minecraft once or twice maybe, I don't really remember but I know I've had gaming-based dreams beforehand 17:39 one summer I was determined to get 99 agility in runescape before a planned holiday trip 17:39 so I did agility like 16h a day for quite a while, like 18 days or something 17:39 just running laps round the course 17:39 managed to get it and went on that holiday 17:40 but every time my eyes were shut, even to blink, I'd see the agility course 17:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:41150 17:41 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 17:41 FIQ what did you type to make it crash? 17:41 I noticed in the ttyrec that it at least got to being able to input 17:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:29954 17:44 amateurhour: I pressed i 17:45 reproduced it locally 17:45 :) 17:45 lol 17:46 amateurhour: at this rate you gonna give bug-sniper a run for their title 17:46 i see you fuzzing those rougelikes 17:46 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 17:47 petition to silence Eternal Guardian in this channel 17:48 I would like that 17:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:41265 17:49 HOBBIT HAPPY DANCE 17:49 nice gift ASCENSION WHEN? 17:49 lol 17:49 clock's ticking 17:50 another 50 quid! 17:50 I want you having all evil roles ascended before tnnt 17:50 oh wait there's still october as well 17:50 carry on 17:50 heh 17:52 breaking giftless conduct smh my head 17:54 break all conducts! 17:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:06 Demo I think you just need perm invent and an empty starting inventory to trigger it 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Canoness, on T:39493 18:11 falling asleep, seeya tomorrow 18:11 <{Demo}> i used fiqs config 18:11 <{Demo}> no crash 18:12 I used FIQ's as well 18:12 {Demo}: press i 18:12 space through menu then press i 18:14 <{Demo}> wtf 18:14 can do it on other characters by dropping everything from invent 18:14 <{Demo}> yeah 18:14 <{Demo}> is this present in dnh? 18:15 idk let's try it 18:16 lol need to compile without asan, it just errors 18:16 <{Demo}> idk who wrote the curses port for dnh 18:16 <{Demo}> but ive always been afraid of it 18:17 dropped everything and pressed i and it didn't crash (comm-3.19.2) 18:17 really gotta sleep now 18:18 gl! 18:18 <{Demo}> welp 18:18 <{Demo}> lol 18:18 <{Demo}> good night 18:18 {Demo}: dnh has had curses from nao 18:18 which is a very, very long time ago 18:18 night amateurhour 18:20 <{Demo}> maybe i want this https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/commit/a3cd3ab97e71bdaee6acd471f7deef0ce5d02a12 18:21 <{Demo}> current workaround: dont press i if u have no items 18:21 <{Demo}> bet this is present in dnhslex lol 18:23 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:25 [hdf-eu] [slex] FIQ (Ast Bor Fem Cha), 12300 points, T:4, quit 18:26 !tell LarienTelrunya answering "yes" on "do you want to pick a random role/race/etc" crashes the game 18:26 Will do, FIQ! 18:26 huh 18:26 not always 18:26 anyway 18:27 {Demo}: slex doesn't have the bug 18:27 <{Demo}> not slex 18:27 <{Demo}> dnhslex 18:27 !tell LarienTelrunya nvm, the crash happens if you press a space on the "select a random role/etc?" window 18:27 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 18:28 <{Demo}> wait fiq, do u even know that dnhslex exists? 18:28 I do 18:28 <{Demo}> also is esm still down? 18:28 but wasn't present on hdf 18:28 so I tried slex instead 18:28 <{Demo}> ok esm is back up and its on there 18:29 {Demo}: it doesn't happen there either 18:29 dnhslex that is 18:29 {Demo}: btw, idk why but the sidebar doesn't crash the game 18:29 only 'i' does 18:29 and they contain the same data 18:29 in fact they even use the same in-game code I think 18:30 unless dnh does something weird 18:30 (in ndnh I mean) 18:30 <{Demo}> wtf 18:30 <{Demo}> dnhslex doesnt even have the fixes 18:30 but it does appear that if perm_invent is on, 'i' crashes the game in ndnh 18:31 not if it's disabled 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 376 points, T:757, killed by a dagger 18:31 btw {Demo} , why am I not seeing any characters in curses? 18:31 <{Demo}> not seeing any charcters? 18:31 disabling fancy graphics modes doesn't make a difference 18:31 <{Demo}> what kind of characters? 18:31 spectate me 18:31 hdf-eu 18:31 <{Demo}> ok 1 sec 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:40816 18:32 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40818 18:32 <{Demo}> ctrl + R 18:32 curses is completely broken on ndnh 18:32 not just the 'i' crash 18:32 <{Demo}> u dont have vision 18:32 <{Demo}> its how dnh vision implementations interact with curses 18:33 <{Demo}> symbiotes have no normal vision 18:33 ah I see 18:33 <{Demo}> only infravision 18:33 but it doesn't explain why curses is so broken 18:33 <{Demo}> but for some reason the initial draw isnt right 18:33 like 18:33 the bizarre drawing problems 18:33 <{Demo}> weird cause i havent touched it 18:33 <{Demo}> https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/tree/2020.04.16/win/curses why would code break if i've never touched it? 18:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:34 how do I play symbiote 18:34 <{Demo}> #Monster 18:34 <{Demo}> take ur dog as a host 18:35 how does this work 18:35 <{Demo}> not super sure 18:35 is it just polymorph? 18:35 except the monster you take "dies" 18:35 <{Demo}> yeah but with some shit persisted 18:36 <{Demo}> like inventory goes with u 18:36 <{Demo}> wrong 18:36 <{Demo}> like bad it goes away 18:36 <{Demo}> idk 18:36 what is the difference between this and worm that walks 18:36 btw I had this exact idea some time ago 18:36 <{Demo}> worm that walks is for taking over bones 18:36 guess someone already had the same idea 18:36 <{Demo}> worm that walks changes ur role 18:37 but in my case, it'd inherit *everything* 18:37 spells, resistances, skills, etc 18:37 <{Demo}> yeah i cant do that yet 18:37 <{Demo}> hopefully when rewrite onto new version of dnh more can be done 18:37 btw how does this interact with polymorph 18:37 like 18:37 is the dog my natural form now 18:38 hmm I have no skills at all 18:38 can I inherit that from monsters? 18:38 oh wait I'm dumb 18:38 I'm playing a binder 18:38 of course I have no skills 18:39 {Demo}: can monsters resist a takeover? 18:39 <{Demo}> yes 18:39 <{Demo}> idk how it interacts with poly I forgot 18:40 how easily do they reisst 18:40 @v?shopkeeper 18:40 shopkeeper (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 18:40 <{Demo}> it's mlevel based, and only polyable monsters are allowed to be taken over 18:40 aw 18:40 so no taking over shopkeepers 18:40 got it 18:41 <{Demo}> also needs to have a brain 18:41 guess the ideal course of action is to find a dwarf or gnome to takeover 18:42 <{Demo}> nah 18:42 <{Demo}> gnomes r small 18:42 but dwarves? 18:42 <{Demo}> and like, adventure branch, so you have access to way more early game monsters 18:43 <{Demo}> I personally like black unicorns from the black forest 18:43 "Your shape becomes uncertain. Your host, the JQ dies! fix_worst_trouble: couldn't cure hands. Program in disorder - you should probably S)ave and reload the game." 18:43 I think I'm worse off now 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1240 18:44 <{Demo}> see previous discussion on that 18:44 <{Demo}> basically, that check somehow slipped through 18:44 <{Demo}> not really sure how 18:45 <{Demo}> other than that symbiote development was kinda fucked 18:45 <{Demo}> got shelved and removed before jnh 2019 18:45 <{Demo}> but then came back after i think 18:47 hmm 18:47 what are these branches 18:47 well I know what the gnomish mines are 18:47 <{Demo}> pick one and find out 18:47 the ice caves sound too early 18:48 I don't think the archipelago was a good choice 18:48 <{Demo}> nahh 18:48 <{Demo}> its epic 18:48 <{Demo}> see the shit on the portal? 18:48 <{Demo}> also, ur base form can swim 18:48 how long does gillyweed last 18:48 <{Demo}> but i dont think drowning exits polymorph 18:48 <{Demo}> i forgot but u get some msgs b4 it ends 18:48 <{Demo}> u will want to look for more in the water 18:49 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] FIQ (Bin Sym Mal Non), 647 points, T:1213, killed by a parrot 18:50 wait 18:50 where did monk go 18:50 <{Demo}> mystic 18:50 oh ok 18:50 <{Demo}> this change was in bad taste 18:50 <{Demo}> and will likely not be present in the rewrite 18:51 {Demo}: spectate me 18:51 this is what I mean with curses being messed up 18:51 in ndnh 18:51 <{Demo}> its not ndnh fault on that one i think 18:51 <{Demo}> its the dogshit vision code 18:51 <{Demo}> play any other race 18:51 <{Demo}> and it wont do that 18:52 ah 18:52 mystic had some interesting ideas iirc 18:52 summoning spectral weapons/armor right? 18:52 <{Demo}> that was in the ideas 18:52 <{Demo}> never ended up being added 18:52 <{Demo}> why not 18:54 spectral armor? 18:54 spectral weapons make sense 18:55 spectral armor? what is that 18:55 in pathos you can have animated items 18:55 maybe that is what it is 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 240 points, T:808, killed by a wand 18:59 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] FIQ (Mon Sym Mal Cha), 666 points, T:734, killed by Ms. Possogroenoe, the shopkeeper 19:01 hmm cats have night vision 19:01 that's nice 19:01 the range is kinda weird though 19:01 <{Demo}> cat vision 19:01 <{Demo}> not night vision 19:01 it works more like rogue vision 19:01 hm 19:02 I have an idea 19:02 <{Demo}> dipping is superior 19:02 perfect 19:02 {Demo}: as a cat? 19:03 <{Demo}> oh oops 19:03 <{Demo}> good deal 19:03 hmm nymphs have orc-level vision 19:03 idk what it's called 19:03 but yes I think nymph might be a decent polyform if I can find a weapon 19:04 so I don't just "pretend to be friendly" 19:04 <{Demo}> iron vulnerable i think 19:05 hmm I can always kick meanwhile 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3060 19:06 is this chest booby-trapped 19:06 <{Demo}> it has crystal gauntlets in it 19:06 You see here a chest named Handle with care!. 19:06 <{Demo}> and generates locked 19:06 <{Demo}> :) 19:07 apparently lichen corpses aren't proper weapons 19:07 who knew 19:07 wait, there are symbiotes here lol 19:07 I thought it spawned garter snakes 19:07 <{Demo}> yes, its the village level where it spawns with monsters of ur race 19:07 shows how much I pay attention huh 19:07 I can take over symbiotes 19:08 which I guess does.. nothing? 19:08 <{Demo}> no, they r nopoly 19:08 aw 19:08 <{Demo}> hmm why is there a teletrap on the other side? 19:08 how often do stuff blank when swimming 19:08 <{Demo}> did i put that there? 19:08 I'm a nymph 19:08 <{Demo}> not sure 19:08 nymphs have teleportitis 19:08 <{Demo}> no 19:08 <{Demo}> i mean on the other side 19:08 <{Demo}> the bad side 19:08 <{Demo}> has a tele trap on it 19:08 oh 19:08 lol 19:09 idk 19:09 hi 19:09 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 19:09 K2: Message from {Demo} at 2020-09-10 17:08 EDT: ndnh crashed on some dumb shit, is there a fun/sad coredump sitting there? 19:09 {Demo} which server 19:09 apparently I was just casually carrying a blessed potion of gain ability lol 19:09 <{Demo}> nevermind, oops, figured out how to replicate. tried and it wasnt working but wasnt given proper instructions 19:09 ok 19:10 do all locations have a minetown equivalent? 19:10 <{Demo}> yeah 19:10 cool 19:10 <{Demo}> and a mines end equivalent 19:12 <{Demo}> a lot of your play is so confusing to watch 19:12 why D: 19:13 <{Demo}> you leave behind so much stuff 19:13 <{Demo}> like lembas wafers and food, and that splint mail you didnt even try lifting 19:13 <{Demo}> and now a guy dropped a club and you arent even going for it? 19:13 <{Demo}> ah you have a staff now 19:13 clubs are awful weapons 19:13 <{Demo}> but before that 19:13 <{Demo}> better than a lichen 19:13 I typically don't carry heavy armor 19:13 splint mail is heavy armor 19:13 although I'm a nymph 19:13 maybe they have inf carrycap 19:13 they should have 19:14 <{Demo}> they dont, i dont know their situation, but it would be worth at least experimenting with 19:14 lol 19:14 I can steal from nymphs 19:14 but they can't steal from me 19:14 <{Demo}> nice 19:14 nice and fair 19:15 <{Demo}> it matches the lore 19:15 <{Demo}> they dont know ur not a nymph 19:15 <{Demo}> or rather, that the nymph isn't itself 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 8538 points, T:4528, killed by an orc-captain called Athosai 19:20 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] FIQ (Mon Sym Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1073 19:21 that is a strange shop 19:21 no walls 19:24 <{Demo}> swamp shop 19:41 @d?grimlock 19:41 grimlock (g) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 15 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Attacks: 1d6 claw physical, 1d6 claw item steal | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, poisonous 19:43 well that's dumb 19:44 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] FIQ (Mon Sym Fem Cha), 6603 points, T:2532, quit 19:44 I was dead, I just accidentally crashed the game when I was about to die 19:44 so I just quit instead 19:44 ;c 19:44 since the crash restoration was to a point where I was very not dead 19:45 but yes I think water nymph is the way to go earlygame 19:46 <{Demo}> its a good maneuver 19:46 orly? 19:46 I wanted to switch to water demon 19:46 didn't realize it was nopoly 19:47 also I didn't like the swamp 19:47 so much water damage 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1772 points, T:3059, killed by a giant mosquito 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3274 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3891 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4011 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:12520 20:43 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible elenmirie's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:8153 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 161 points, T:50, killed by a dart, while sleeping 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a jaguar, on T:5348 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 209 points, T:382, killed by a raven 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5950 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5950 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6242 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Gia Mal Law), 4341 points, T:2332, killed by dbanethacker's ghost 21:05 hah 21:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:24592 21:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:24700 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 3306 points, T:3488, killed by a rope golem 21:18 did u get killed in ur own game k2 21:26 <@ShivanHunter> rip 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:48734 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had an elven spear entrusted to her by Mog, on T:11729 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 898 points, T:2546, killed by a rock piercer 21:53 [hdf-us] [4k] charlotte (charles) (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:12379 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:49498 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1813 points, T:1600, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant spider 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:49671 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a pair of mud boots entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2846 22:08 -!- Mencherino has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a large shield entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3983 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 221 points, T:285, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted large mimic 22:28 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20596 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a kabuto entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5734 22:33 [hdf-us] [4k] charlotte (charles) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 18270 points, T:12938, killed by a magic missile 22:45 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof greased +2 helm of brilliance", on T:20825 22:46 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof gauntlets of power of reflection", on T:20828 22:49 [hdf-us] [4k] charlotte (charles) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7029 points, T:2430, killed by a white unicorn 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Knight, on T:15308 23:10 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:22049 23:25 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 23:28 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:31 [hdf-us] [4k] charlotte (charles) (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1994