00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 525 points, T:1182, killed by a scroll of earth 00:04 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:04 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6250 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 100 points, T:471, killed by a fox 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:28432 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42682 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42897 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42909 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:43055 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42910 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:42912 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:28500 00:19 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 00:20 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:20 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:43208 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:43213 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:43678 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:28587 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44481 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:44716 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44724 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1536092 points, T:28612, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/X/XYS/nethack/dumplog/1598442870.nh.html 00:38 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] bobross (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:16808 00:43 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:43 !who 00:43 K2: [hdf-us] sluggoman [evil] Cropper [nh370] oh6 [nh370] KaiHerd [nh343] klintos [nh343] bobross [xnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:44933 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:44940 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:44979 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:44980 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5389 points, T:4072, killed by a Woodland-elf 00:47 EvilHack updated (all servers) 00:47 ^ couple bug fixes 00:47 gnite 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1719750 points, T:44993, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Cropper/nethack/dumplog/1598926236.nh.html 00:50 -!- eggandhu1l has joined #hardfought 00:51 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4999 points, T:2523, killed by a rothe 01:04 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:13793 01:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:15078 01:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:15880 01:16 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 01:18 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:18 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 01:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 01:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:21735 01:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19446 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1333 points, T:1549, killed by a kitten 01:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 vorpal blade", on T:19750 01:51 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:52 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 02:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 quicksilver", on T:20679 02:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:20857 02:07 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1317 points, T:2088, killed by a rothe 02:08 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 02:09 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:12 -!- eggandhu1l has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:21 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 02:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scroll of charging", on T:75407 02:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:49 -!- zhangoke has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:49 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 02:51 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:24899 02:55 wanted MR. Couldn have had a marker. D'oh 02:56 It's always a gamble. 03:03 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:04 <@FIQ> at least it wasn't an amulet of esp 03:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51231 03:05 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 03:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51232 03:06 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:06 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 03:08 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had an etched staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:25580 03:12 [hdf-us] [un] Feya (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the ghost of Thidwick, the former Digger, on T:2392 03:12 -!- PavelB has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:26 "The shambling horror turns into a killer bee!" 03:26 ^ rebatela 03:27 so at least sometimes they are vulnerable... 03:29 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 03:30 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:30 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 03:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:26343 03:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26626 03:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:76473 03:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:76475 03:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:43 if monster reads confused teleport in the mines, don't they stay in the mines? 03:43 [hdf-au] [xnh] spectre (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 2015 points, T:2277, quit 03:43 !ping 03:43 LarienTelrunya: Pong! 03:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:27292 03:45 the answer is no apparently, but at least he wasn't too hard to find 03:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:47 amateurhour: what is that weird "asan" thing you're apparently using to compile slex, on unix I'd recommend gcc actually... 03:48 or clang 03:48 asan is address sanitizer, it's enabled via a compiler flag in both gcc or clang 03:48 oh, and it doesn't work correctly when compiled with that but works without it? 03:48 [hdf-au] [xnh] spectre (Val Hum Fem Neu), 350 points, T:626, killed by a wand 03:48 it basically throws a verbose error whenever bad memory things occur like buffer overflows 03:49 it's a tool for finding bad memory things 03:49 huh. is there a backtrace or something that shows what could be the cause? 03:49 yeah, different for each type of thing it detects 03:49 for memory leaks it shows where it was allocated 03:49 because if you have such backtraces I'd be *very* interested in seeing them :P 03:50 for use after free it shows where it was read after freed, where it was allocated, and where it was freed 03:50 etc 03:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:22140 03:50 btw you have some random artifact keys in a couple of des files 03:50 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:50 which trips the leak detection when creating the level files during compilation 03:51 random? 03:51 oh hey sup Amy 03:51 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 03:51 yo aoei! 03:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:22174 03:51 my flatmate just asked me if rewe should rewrite their website in Rust lmao 03:51 https://0x0.st/i6PQ.diff Amy 03:52 clearly he is learning some valuable things 03:52 amateurhour: those are intentional, they're doors that require certain artifact keys to open 03:52 the parser allocates memory for those strings then never frees them 03:52 SLASH'EM bug then, because that's where they're from 03:53 I've been following amateurhour's work and it seems a problem common to many variants 03:53 probs just needs a tweak in the door parser then 03:53 hardly surprising though 03:53 now if I knew where the door parser is... is that the lex/yacc stuff? 03:53 yeah 03:53 there be dragons 03:53 amateurhour: I made a fuzzer for my ircd lol 03:54 users aren't not always correctly removed from channel lists :c 03:55 they are not not always correctly removed? so they are always correctly removed 03:55 :D 03:55 :D that's what I was thinking too 03:56 oh lmao 03:56 took me a minute 03:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:22641 03:56 sometimes when a user dies they leave their nick in the lists of chans 03:56 [hdf-au] [xnh] spectre (Val Hum Fem Neu), 449 points, T:1147, killed by a dwarf 03:57 this seems to be the only obvious issue still remaining. once I ran the fuzzer, killed all the forked perl processers spewing garbage at the ircd and the hashtables went down to size 0 03:57 not been able to reproduce that 03:58 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 04:01 amateurhour: do you ever write a program and at some point realise that there are a bunch of functions you've written that seemed like they'd be useful 04:01 but if you actually ran it in gdb or profiled it you see they are never called 04:02 should be shaken out of the final binary by the compiler, and maybe warned about 04:02 Rust's compiler warns about a lot of things but surprisingly no this 04:02 tbf though some might come up as rare corner-cases I haven't yet seen in action 04:03 guaranteed never and very rarely are extremely different cases to rustc 04:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 glass helm of brilliance", on T:22888 04:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1711 04:05 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 04:06 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:06 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 04:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:77169 04:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:09 found the missing free Amy 04:10 amateurhour: noice 04:10 yay! so how do I fix it? 04:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:10 amateurhour: did you valgrind 04:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:29187 04:11 https://0x0.st/i6P2.diff 04:11 noooo 04:11 uh oh? 04:11 meh.. i just didn't want werebane lol 04:12 heh 04:12 want to wish for eye 04:12 [hdf-au] [xnh] spectre (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1426 04:12 you got the PYEC already, so MR is sorted 04:12 thanks amateurhour :) hopefully I can figure out how to actually compile that, because my lex/yacc tools on windows have been working improperly in the past 04:13 yeah. want it for PW regen and branchport 04:13 greedy :b 04:13 with PYEC I think you can also charge yourself up 04:14 time to upgrade to a linux Amy 04:14 windows 7 is dead 04:14 :) 04:14 yeah get you some linux Amy 04:14 no you can't aoei :-( 04:14 mobileuser: you can't? 04:14 what do you mean windows 7, the PC I'm developing on is windows XP of course 04:14 I thought that was a thing 04:14 that only works with confused scroll of charging 04:14 charge markers right ?oCharging, confuse self 04:14 s/right/write/ 04:14 mobileuser: close enough :P 04:15 i just forgot a couple of steps 04:15 :D 04:15 lol 04:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2232 points, T:3437, killed by a bugbear 04:17 I was cornered into using windows for some years because of some dumb software I needed for my PhD :( 04:17 luckily those days are behind me now 04:19 Amy: I have never done any real developing on windows and I am impressed that anyone can manage it at all 04:19 lol, I'm impressed that it's possible to develop something like a nethack variant on anything but windows 04:20 ???? 04:20 lol 04:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:23899 04:20 imagine having to do all that on unix 04:20 im pretty sure the majority of the NH/variant build scripts and all that nonsense were designed for unix flavours :P 04:20 LarienTelrunya: what is your current code editor again? 04:21 proton for monst.c, wordpad.exe for everything else :P 04:21 lol 04:21 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:29698 04:21 need proton for the former because monst.c is now so large that it lags considerably when I open it in wordpad 04:22 [hdf-au] [xnh] spectre (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:1937 04:22 I'm impressed that it's possible to develop something like a nethack variant in wordpad 04:23 amateurhour: ditto 04:23 shocked, in fact 04:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:37, on T:77797 04:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Lady, on T:77800 04:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:77805 04:25 but it is nice that WordPad still has a userbase 04:25 lol 04:27 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:77824 04:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:78012 04:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:78018 04:45 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:48 oh, wow, I just found a stupid slashem blackmarket bug that goes back to slashem which generated a warning that often broke my fuzzing in unnethack 04:48 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:48 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 04:48 :o 04:49 let's look at this for loop and ponder what it does and why typ is needed https://github.com/UnNetHack/UnNetHack/blob/master/src/shknam.c#L801 04:50 bhaak: I think it's the typ type 04:50 that's the typ you want 04:51 but which isn't used for generating the object 04:51 :( 04:51 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 04:51 you know what would be a great language to use instead of C though? 04:52 which means, you're overwriting properties of the generated object based on a fictitious type :-) 04:52 D: 04:52 that sounds horrible 04:52 almost python-like 04:52 or... 04:52 *shudders* 04:52 Perl 04:52 not so horrible. most of the time, it means the object is essentially cancelled 04:53 oh ok 04:53 but for slime molds, it erases the index into the fruit name list and 0 is an error. 04:54 o.o 04:54 it would generate a warning on a live play, but with the fuzzer, every warning generates a crash to debug. so it was an annoying bug 04:54 Rust would never allow this 04:55 well, in Rust you also wouldn't overload the same field with different meaning depending on what type the object is :-) 04:55 no because that's sheer madness 04:55 what were the DevTeam smoking 04:56 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:56 i can understand it for sprites and oldskool demo hackers and such 04:56 what's their excuse 04:59 most of the code comes exactly from these times when oldskool demo hackers were young and new and you had to live with limited resources :-) 04:59 bhaak: perhaps but I will note that NetHack was never released on a tiny console from back in the day 05:00 or was it? maybe i dont' know my histories :o 05:01 Amiga and the Atari ST counts towards that I guess 05:01 neat 05:02 although they weren't the primary development target for 3.0 and earlier 05:02 [hdf-au] [xnh] spectre (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Big Room, on T:5092 05:02 but if you look at code from that time, it was horrendous even for Unix machine which had a bit more resources 05:02 lol 05:03 they were using unchecked strcpy and gets en masse without any concern for memory corruption 05:03 and no super-fast super-compact demohacker efficient mad-code 05:03 just shitty crap stuff 05:03 im guessing 05:04 yeah :) 05:04 ah well 05:04 i suppose the real demohackers found cooler shit to play with as the years went on 05:05 unchecked strcpy() :'( 05:05 monsters 05:06 there's still quite an active demo scene 05:08 neat 05:08 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFtrxOb0K67hvOt_lRuX1Uw 05:10 somehow I had an association with it in my mind to oldskool 8-16-bit systems c: 05:12 soon 32-bit will also be retro lol 05:14 yes but not special :-) 05:14 never special 05:15 * aoei wonders if UEFI systems run 64-bit native 05:15 back when I was a teen my x86 machine and most systems like it had to boot always in 16-bit mode first 05:16 and then "jump" to higher address registry mode 05:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:79195 05:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on the Plane of Earth (for the 5th time), on T:79196 05:19 The shambling horror turns into a housecat! The housecat plummets a few thousand feet to its death. 05:19 heh 05:19 [hdf-au] [xnh] spectre (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7395 points, T:5547, killed by an air elemental 05:19 probably they got rid of all that when they did away with those ridiculous MBR-bootloader-somewhere-before-first-partition schemes 05:20 it's nice that some things do indeed appear to become more sensible over time 05:21 only slowly though 05:22 indeed :/ 05:23 and many people will insist for ages on keeping something it was agreed decades ago was a Bad Idea because they're resistent to change and/or breaking "compatibility" 05:24 ... ok that's also probably how the whole MBR thing kept going for so long (and isn't properly dead even now) 05:24 also, if it works, why change it? :) 05:26 GRUB got too big to fit 05:26 I think that's mainly why? 05:26 or if you mean in general then just because shiny new things are Fun 05:27 but this cannot be applied broad-spectrum 05:28 bhaak: also dual boot was def more of a pain on the old school MBR shit 05:28 not that dual boot isn't a pain in general just use one OS it's easier 05:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:26018 05:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:26021 05:31 aoei: was it? I never had a problem with it. once installed, it usually worked, I only had problems if I broke my linux kernel. grub OTOH has many magical incantations I never learned 05:31 it could sometimes be a pain if you did windows and linux 05:31 and greater risk of one OS "accidentally" overwriting your bootloader 05:32 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:32 windows still finds ways to be a pain if you UEFI boot and have linux or other OSes also installed, of course 05:32 windows will always find ways to be a pain 05:32 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 05:34 also I take issue with the attitude of "it works, why change it?", at least to me it suggests don't change anything unless it's horribly broken 05:34 but there's always varying degrees 05:34 yes but that's reality :) 05:34 and different ways things could work *better* 05:34 Or in the systemd world, change something to make it horribly broken 05:34 yes well 05:34 * Pinkbeast still has LILO on one machine ;-) 05:34 don't use systemd 05:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:26231 05:34 especially don't use systemd-networkd 05:35 actually the rest of systemd i find ok 05:35 the networkd thingy is a bit janky 05:35 I was _super_ impressed with Clare's HP laptop where the BIOS maliciously makes sure you are booting Windows Boot Manager no matter what. That was more fun with dual boot (in a UEFI world) than MBR gave me for years 05:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26355 05:36 I will concede though that yes, often the desire for small improvement X leads to a bunch of confusion and very broken shit, pain, suffering, what have you 05:36 Often you are better off with the devil you know, and sysvinit is a devil I know very well. 05:37 Pinkbeast: first time I tried to dual boot on a windows UEFI machine you couldn't actually reboot into anything but windows without digging for some "fastboot" option somewhere and turning that off 05:37 not the worst shit MS have pulled on me, but still a bit annoying 05:37 It turns out it notices if you _remove_ the windows thingy, but not if you just sneakily replace it with grub. Fun, fun. 05:38 heh 05:38 Pinkbeast: maybe systemd has very laudable design goals and in 10-15 years time will be really quite something! 05:39 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:39 In 10 years I don't even know what country I'll be living in, assuming I'm not dead in some post-Brexit civil war. 05:40 XD 05:40 I reckon fair chance I'll still be in Germany 05:40 unless Scotland finally split from the UK 05:41 (also, in 10 years I suspect sysvinit will still be sort of OK, and TBH the whole parallellising boot thing that started all this nonsense off is kind of moot anyway) 05:41 is that what systemd's meant to be for? 05:41 so all n cpus can parciticipate in the bootup process? 05:42 Not now, but it was very definitely the original motivation for replacing sysvinit 05:42 heh 05:42 you know where you stood with /etc/rc3.d 05:42 now it's all thingyctl verb noun 05:43 I noticed this when I started at the Computer Lab in er '04 or so, getting a workstation with an SSD; first thing I did was jigger it to actually _show_ me the boot messages. Which turned out to be pointless normally because they went by too fast to read. 05:43 you read the bootup messages? :o 05:43 nobody does that :D 05:43 i mean I have, on rare occasion 05:43 OFC it helped that I use xdm not some bloated horror, but it was just boot, GRUB, bamf, login screen. It's not like parallelising _that_ will make it appreciably quicker. 05:43 no probably not 05:44 I do that! It's why Linux subjectively boots faster than Windows, you've got something to read while it happens. (Assuming spinning rust, anyway...) 05:45 maybe if you have a buttload of CPUs and your bootup process also involves initialising various supercomputing components or VMs or what have you 05:45 maybe a parallelised init is the way to go 05:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:79920 05:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:52057 05:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:79951 05:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4938 05:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:79971 06:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2949 points, T:6029, killed by a black unicorn 06:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3301924 points, T:80005, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/naoky/xnethack/dumplog/1599019292.xnh.html 06:10 woooo go naoky 06:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2058 06:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1184 points, T:2158, killed by an invisible Woodland-elf 06:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 183 points, T:814, killed by a gnome 06:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 16001 points, T:14300, killed by a Woodland-elf 06:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Pelias, on T:29759 06:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:30167 06:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:30350 06:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:30372 06:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:30500 06:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:30550 06:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Garland, on T:30579 06:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:30583 06:42 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 06:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:30963 06:46 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:06 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 07:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) killed the invisible Graz'zt, on T:33413 07:11 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) killed Zuggtmoy, on T:33426 07:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) killed Aldinach, on T:33448 07:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:24 @riker iirc the evilhack bug was that the quest leader death called xkilled() which is only for when the player is responsible 07:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:52493 07:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:52502 07:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1555 points, T:1764, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 07:32 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:32 aosdict: does xnh support msgtype=alert? 07:33 !PoM 07:33 APic: The moon is full for 1 more day. 07:40 it has 3.7.0-hdf as an upstream so it should 07:40 ty 07:41 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 07:42 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1931 points, T:2146, killed by a gnome lord 07:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) genocided lava gremlins, on T:52641 07:51 at night I geno gremlins, by day I geno lava gremlins 07:53 The nalfeshnee drinks a potion of gain level! Something speaks. "Thank you for freeing me! In return, I will grant you a wish!" The nalfeshnee makes a wish for a leather cloak of protection! 07:54 ^ rebatela 07:54 this is the first time I have actually seen this 07:55 usually they are out of view and I never find what was wished for... 07:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2050 07:57 "The invisible Count Notfaroutoe the vampire mage removes an elven cloak and puts on a leather cloak of protection." Now my pet has a nice cloak :-) 08:02 [hdf-us] [slex] richards (Act Liz Mal Law), 8190 points, T:2998, killed by a monster (hc denter), while praying unsuccessfully 08:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1724 points, T:3581, killed by a kobold mummy 08:14 mobileuser lol 08:18 [hdf-us] [slex] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2954 points, T:1322, killed by a monster (operated hc child) 08:19 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 205 points, T:248, killed by a crossbow bolt 08:21 -!- kelamir[m] has quit [Quit: killed] 08:27 -!- kelamir[m] has joined #hardfought 08:32 [hdf-us] [slex] naoky (Val Ang Fem Law), 1123 points, T:1602, petrified by a bashing a petrifying monster 08:33 <{Demo}> by a bashing a 08:43 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 08:44 mobileuser: very cool! :) 08:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible elenmirie's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:32297 08:47 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible elenmirie's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:32493 08:52 double bones? 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32935 09:00 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 09:04 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:08 [hdf-us] [slex] Skullman (Che Elf Mal Neu), 3680 points, T:3122, killed by a monster (Ms. Vanzac, the shopkeeper) 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 759 points, T:2137, zombified by a dwarf zombie 09:17 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 09:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Everdying (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:2428 09:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:30381 09:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:33506 09:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:30992 09:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31913 09:47 [hdf-us] [slex] naoky (Val Ang Fem Law), 10142 points, T:2377, killed by a monster (invisible Mr. Richa, the shopkeeper) 09:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 helm of brilliance", on T:31917 09:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:31950 09:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:34289 10:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] lunatunez (Fla Dro Mal Cha), 15537 points, T:8140, killed by an arch-lich 10:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3339 10:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35022 10:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3376 10:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) destroyed Baalphegor, on T:35518 10:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:4056 10:16 [hdf-us] [slex] naoky (Val Ang Fem Law), 97 points, T:101, killed by a monster (water demon) 10:22 [hdf-us] [slex] Skullman (Ama Hum Fem Neu) killed Dango San-kyodai, on T:2599 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:10330 10:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4221 10:35 [hdf-eu] [dyn] Ciel (Dist77) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 162 points, T:810, killed by a wand 10:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Ran Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Markswoman, on T:55103 10:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:43 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 10:46 [hdf-eu] [dyn] Ciel (Dist77) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 179 points, T:199, killed by a bat 10:48 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 bone helm of opposite alignment", on T:35559 10:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:35638 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 38344 points, T:11822, killed by a tapered wooden stake 11:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35976 11:07 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 11:12 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law) killed the invisible Lamashtu, on T:36367 11:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:36590 11:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law) killed Daemon, on T:36709 11:27 amateurhour: in 3 tests in a row my hashtable size went back to 0 after killall perl B) 11:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hatamaru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 197 points, T:217, killed by the wrath of Tyr 11:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36987 11:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) killed Belial, on T:37099 11:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:37563 11:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law), 15249 points, T:5397, killed by a gnome king 11:43 wow that went south fast 11:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:37716 11:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 927 points, T:2204, killed by a straw golem, while fainted from lack of food 11:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3948 11:50 hothraxxa: :( 11:52 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 11:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2004 points, T:4231, killed by a soldier ant 11:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4773 11:56 -!- stenno4 is now known as stenno 11:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:38834 12:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:39017 12:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Set, on T:39046 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3101 12:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:61742 12:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 10263808 points, T:39063, ascended 12:07 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1599191327.dnh.txt 12:08 grats 12:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3465 12:10