00:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:5627 00:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5630 00:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:5631 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:5631 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 cloak of protection", on T:5845 00:10 clear 00:10 oops 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed tin of green dragon meat", on T:5989 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:5332 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6247 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1766 points, T:6345, killed by an elf zombie 00:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8288 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:36979 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36982 01:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4612 points, T:2710, killed by a bolt of cold 01:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] bagun (Kni Hum Mal Law) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:3178 01:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Fem Una), 330 points, T:733, killed by a hobbit 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 93 points, T:155, killed by a raven 02:00 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:06 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 02:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "anti-clockwise metamorphosis glyph", on T:139520 02:34 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4428 points, T:5143, killed by a lynx 03:25 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 03:56 -!- aoei_ has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [*.net *.split] 04:00 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [*.net *.split] 04:00 -!- aoei has quit [*.net *.split] 04:00 -!- aoei_ is now known as aoei 04:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:25370 04:05 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 04:05 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 04:24 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:33 !tea 04:33 * Beholder throws bugsniper a mug of black tea, prayed over by Rodney at 69 degrees Fahrenheit. 04:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Inc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 godhands", on T:807 04:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:29534 04:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2231 04:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Inc Fem Cha), 5873 points, T:2587, absorbing too much energy and exploding 04:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:29782 04:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29785 04:54 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Arc Clk Fem Neu), 508 points, T:989, killed by a hobbit 05:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] bagun (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4448 05:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "deep sea glyph", on T:142480 05:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Inc Mal Neu), 16543 points, T:2698, killed by a bolt of fire 05:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:31822 05:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Hlf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4197 05:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Hlf Fem Cha), 6709 points, T:4291, killed by a malkuth sephirah 05:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 101 points, T:172, killed by a fox 06:20 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 06:24 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:25 -!- Antediluvia has joined #hardfought 06:31 -!- Antediluvia has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 06:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Mal Cha), 13097 points, T:818, killed by a xorn 06:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:35500 06:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2069 06:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:35743 07:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Mon Swn Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1722 07:10 [hdf-au] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1864 points, T:4628, died of starvation 07:10 !coffee 07:10 * Beholder tosses nabru a mug of coffee, replicated by demogorgon at 136 degrees Fahrenheit. 07:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:23937 07:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Vam Fem Cha), 15150 points, T:3217, killed by a winged gargoyle 07:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 215 points, T:482, killed by a goblin 07:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:24202 07:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 114 points, T:524, killed by a jackal 07:30 -!- kame has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:31 -!- kame has joined #hardfought 07:35 I actually tinned karibou's corpse because she was an elf. Every bit of sleep resistance counts... 07:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4531 07:43 Nice~ 07:43 If you hadn 07:43 If you hadn't, their cat would have. 07:44 Only if it had been tamed. 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:24597 07:57 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Mon Hum Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1784 07:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Mal Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:24751 07:59 -!- kame has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Inc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:6428 08:12 -!- kame has joined #hardfought 08:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased helping hand", on T:35251 08:19 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:20 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 08:25 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:32 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 08:32 [hdf-au] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3766 08:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Dagon, on T:145127 08:33 Annnd, that's the second Dagon I've killed in this game. 08:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kelamir (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 200 points, T:513, killed by a hobbit 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:10597 08:42 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Mon Hum Nbn Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3928 08:52 [hdf-au] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3325 points, T:10972, killed by a straw golem 08:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 27287 points, T:5193, killed by a dwarf zombie 08:56 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Mon Hum Nbn Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4173 09:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:37609 09:03 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:3836 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:7314 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:12650 09:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Inc Fem Cha) averted death, on T:9010 09:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Inc Fem Cha), 63417 points, T:9012, killed by a warrior changed 09:10 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of drozd, the former Ranger, on T:3876 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 99 points, T:395, killed by a giant spider 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 32737 points, T:13039, killed by a touch of death 09:19 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 09:24 that sucked.. something turned into an arch lich in mines end. Had a marker, boh, tons of spellbooks bah 09:25 i keep having good starts and then unavoidable death 09:25 totally sucks when that happens :-( 09:25 i guess i should have had MR 09:26 I had a lucky escape, "my" arch-lich only used a freezing spell 09:26 <{Demo}2> :( 09:27 hopefully it leaves bones for someone with MR and they can have a marker and bag of holding ! 09:27 hopefully it will be you! 09:28 aww that would be swell! 09:28 :-) 09:28 trying to motivate myself to play 09:28 <{Demo}2> every game you play you destroy another shred of k2's evil soul, getting closer to defeating him 09:29 <{Demo}2> that alone should be motivation enough 09:29 haha 09:30 * K2 chugs a jolt cola 09:30 soul revitalized 09:30 K2: Message from FIQ at 2020-08-30 18:33 EDT: pushed a fix: the game no longer leaks whether a monster doesn't have any attacks if you're hallucinating for the purpose of interrupting actions 09:31 does jolt still exist? i remember when that stuff came out. I wasn't "allowed" to drink it so of course it's all we spent our change on for a while 09:32 wikipedia says 1985 and that sounds just about right 09:32 <{Demo}2> you used to be able to get it at dollar general for a few years, stopped earlier this year 09:32 <{Demo}2> went to a dollar general last night looking for some 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1121 points, T:1231, killed by a rothe, while dragging an iron ball 09:32 <{Demo}2> and they said they dont stock it anymore 09:33 <{Demo}2> gonna go to a few more before i give up 09:33 "Jolt Cola ceased updating their social media outlets in March 2019; shortly thereafter, Dollar General stopped selling the product." 09:33 jolt cola is real? I thought it was fictitious 09:34 <{Demo}2> dollar general definitely sold it in january 2020 09:34 <{Demo}2> and were actively restocking 09:35 I may be confusing it with a fictitious cola from fallout or something 09:35 nuka-cola I think 09:36 close enough 09:38 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 09:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 09:40 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Mon Hum Nbn Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6280 09:44 -!- Alasnuyo has left #hardfought 09:51 <@riker> doesnt zapm have something like jolt cola? 09:51 <{Demo}2> nhtng does I think? 09:52 yeah nhtng does 09:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:43452 10:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed magic marker", on T:43504 10:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:43517 10:06 savor those gdsm wishes, that'll be changing soon 10:08 are you yeeting dragon scale mail out of the game? 10:10 he's swapping out dsm for doggo bobble hats 10:10 as a specific item yes. now you can have dragon-scaled crystal plate mail if you want 10:13 <{Demo}2> what will dragons drop? 10:14 bobble hats 10:14 1 dragon scale. a dragon-scaled crystal plate mail needs 100 of those 10:14 for doggos 10:15 and a six pack of jolt cola 10:16 you can also have dragon-scaled leather armor, dragon-scaled splint mail, etc etc 10:16 dragon-scaled scale mail :) 10:16 dragon-scaled rubber hose 10:16 dragon-scaled tin opener 10:17 if you want to look especially cool - dragon-scaled leather jacket 10:17 YANI dragon-scaled scales 10:17 dragon-scaled food ration... mmm crunchy 10:17 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 10:17 you want to know how much you weigh in that dragon-scaled leather jacket 10:18 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Mon Hum Nbn Law), 19065 points, T:8379, killed by a Green-elf, while reading a book 10:18 aosdict will regular dsm still be a thing? 10:19 no 10:19 that's the whole point 10:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Bat Mal Cha) was given the Limb of the Black Tree, on T:6605 10:20 gray dragon-scaled silver dragon scale mail 10:20 <{Demo}2> silver dragon scale pail 10:21 making choice of body armor more interesting is the name of the game 10:21 rather than 9 AC, light, non-spellcasting-interfering armor that also gives a powerful extrinsic 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:24403 10:27 so adding scales to say plate mail will make it ok for spellcasting? 10:27 (asking for a friend) 10:27 the base armor will behave the same as it did before. just with a dragon extrinsic added 10:27 ah 10:28 embedding scales in metal doesn't make it less metal 10:28 y? 10:28 :P 10:28 |m| 10:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class z, on T:44972 10:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class U, on T:44973 10:34 <{Demo}2> so what will wizards wear? 10:34 presumably magic-friendly stuff like leather armors or CPM, with their choice of scales 10:34 <{Demo}2> wooden plate mail? 10:34 d scaled crystal maybe? 10:34 also wooden plate mail if they can find it 10:34 <{Demo}2> crystal heavy 10:34 <{Demo}2> can u wish armor mats? 10:34 not in xnethack 10:35 you also won't be able to wish for scaled armor directly 10:35 <{Demo}2> any way to grind out infinite soldiers? 10:35 assert dominance and attach scales to ur nekkid body 10:35 partly because that's just more "wish your ascension kit, no searching needed", and partly because I hate the wish parser 10:35 <{Demo}2> eat the scales 10:35 amateurhour: if you enchant scales with no armor underneath you become a dragon 10:36 <{Demo}2> ohhh, no dsm, just ds and it's a cloak? 10:36 dragon scaled tshirts? 10:36 yeah, the process is you wear scales over the armor you want to make scaled, then read enchant armor 10:37 -!- beetcoin_ has quit [*.net *.split] 10:37 -!- honu has quit [*.net *.split] 10:37 amateurhour: I checked that, but the vanilla precedent is if you polymorph while wearing scales or DSM and also a shirt, the scales become your skin bypassing the shirt (then the shirt rips apart) 10:37 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 10:37 <{Demo}2> what if it enchants my underarmor and not my scales? 10:38 rip monks woulda loved dscale tshirts 10:38 <{Demo}2> is enchant armor still random what it targets? 10:38 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 10:39 <{Demo}2> does this involve corpsenm abuse? 10:39 heavy armor. that reminds me to check if you can see the weight bonus knights get in unnethack 10:40 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 fire brand", on T:35157 10:42 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:35161 10:44 hmm, it doesn't 10:45 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 25690 points, T:1686, killed by a paper golem 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:20059 10:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Bat Mal Cha), 90161 points, T:10104, killed by a hunting horror 10:49 dragon-scale thong 10:50 {Demo}2, how comfy is that? 10:51 K2 asking the though questions 10:51 someone has to 10:51 i wanna re-shingle my roof with dragon scales 10:52 red dragon scales (fireproof) 10:52 think I might have figured out the worm tail panic in vanilla 10:52 o.O 10:53 think place_worm_tail_randomly interprets its arguments as xchar but is passed int 10:53 so it'll occasionally try placing worm segment at like x=-15000 or so 10:53 sonofa... 10:53 haha 10:53 typical fuck-you from C's type system 10:54 woulda be caught sooner if not K&R probs 10:54 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Wiz Chn Mal Cha), 315 points, T:1888, poisoned by a rotted large kobold corpse, while fainted from lack of food 10:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 3427 points, T:1004, killed by a gnome lord zombie 10:58 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 246 points, T:829, choked on a tripe ration 11:00 yeah bhaak, remove K&R please kthx 11:00 support 11:00 quite a lot of it's gone already, I'm not sure why we still have FDECL and NDECL 11:01 aosdict: but will it still compile then on $obscure_machine_from_the_60s ? 11:01 we still have K&R function definition everywhere 11:02 amateurhour: you mean void foo(x, y) int x, y; { ? 11:02 yeah, and the type promotion that comes with it 11:02 which is confusing to me at least, like when things get promoted and not 11:03 clang doesn't like it either 11:03 I'm not super knowledgeable about the intricacies of type promotion in C, but the snippet I wrote above does type promotion differently than void foo(int x, int y) ? 11:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:47048 11:08 tbh I can't recall the particulars but I think chars and ints don't get promoted to correct widths or something 11:09 gotta check the rules again 11:09 I wouldn't know for sure. in theory, it shouldn't, but in practise, I wouldn't be surprised if the behavior is braindamaged to be compatible to old C compilers' behavior. 11:10 anything we can do to make tools find pitfalls would be good though 11:10 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 59 points, T:1277, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 11:14 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 17621 points, T:653, killed by a hobbit 11:17 bhaak: is #ifdef STUPID gone yet 11:19 aosdict: no 11:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2926 11:20 or are there still supported systems whose compilers stumble on things like foo[obj->otyp] or x = foo ? a : b 11:23 heck, if those compilers still exist, burn them with fire 11:23 yeah I think any cases of STUPID that guard things like that second example can be safely removed, because that sort of thing is done everywhere in nethack 11:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cobisiah (Con Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:24327 11:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given Tobiume, on T:3809 11:28 well, emailed the dev team about that wormy one 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 32075 points, T:6905, quit 11:28 takes ages to get a crash when fuzzing vanilla really 11:30 wonderful pets https://0x0.st/iExN.png 11:30 all in one turn 11:31 nice 11:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:4373 11:33 why is it spelled Vadar 11:34 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 36465 points, T:2648, killed by a lynx, while frozen by a spellbook 11:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Ran Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragon scale mail", on T:10350 11:34 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Val Ang Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:2657 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:40622 11:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Ran Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiteress, on T:10781 11:40 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Val Ang Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3387 11:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5401 11:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11280 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 112505 points, T:22474, killed by Master Kaen, while paralyzed by a monster 11:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:50074 11:48 huh, one turn from wake to death 11:48 that's a new record lol 11:48 (backscroll) omg aosdict now I want dragon-scaled high heel sandals :D 11:48 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2020-08-30 11:42 EDT: how does slex not have a "died" monster so that you can legitimately be killed by a died? 11:49 aosdict; i can't spell is why it's spelled vader 11:49 also lol, slex would format that as "killed by a monster (died)" 11:49 still. implement it 11:49 aosdict do you like high heels? ♥ 11:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 23428 points, T:1678, killed by a leprechaun 11:50 how unlucky do i have to be to go from full hp to zero due to helplessness, must have been pretty unlucky 11:50 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Val Ang Fem Law), 3289 points, T:4310, killed by a wolf 11:50 I've never worn high heels and would probably hate wearing them on the basis of walking alone 11:50 my feet are probably too big for high heels, and I'm already clumsy without them, so I would be a disaster in hels 11:50 *heels 11:51 in fact I prefer zero-drop shoes 11:51 just how my feet work 11:51 Amy, you have a variant, follow ur dreams 11:52 heh, right now I'm sitting here at home after a long and stressful tour and decided to give my blue high-heeled sandals a little spin ;) 11:52 amateurhour: she does that already 11:52 wouldn't want to walk long distances in them though 11:52 LarienTelrunya: would you implement zero-drop shoes in slex or are they anathema to you 11:53 what are zero-drop shoes? the kind you wear in zero gravity? 11:53 aosdict: uhh I guess some of the flat types of shoe would be zero-drop? 11:53 amateurhour: a shoe where the heel and toe are at the same height 11:53 also would that mean that platform shoes can also be zero-drop? :D 11:54 the typical shoe has a slight downward tilt 11:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cobisiah (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 boots of flying", on T:25317 11:55 YASlexI: The Emperor's New Shoes, they're invisible but totally there, uses the sexy flats skill 11:55 winny :( 11:57 heh, one of the birthday gifts I got from my last girlfriend axtually was an invisible pair of sexy flat sandals and they're cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute! ♥♥♥♥♥ 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby green dragon, on T:20205 11:57 And invisible? 11:57 Do you see invisible? 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Slayer, on T:41494 11:57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes was referencing this just in case it wasn't obvious 11:57 :D 11:58 they would surely be zero-drop shoes 11:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Kni Hum Fem Law) was given Rhongomyniad, on T:6360 12:00 I suppose I should add "YASlexI" to my yasi parser for when I give amy the dump of them 12:01 would be useful probably :) 12:02 <{Demo}2> burn slex at the stake 12:02 {Demo}2: you have to prefix it with YASlexI so it'll be recorded with all the other serious suggestions 12:03 YASlexI: burn slex at the stake 12:03 K2; learning experience, perhaps i should have free action next time :) 12:03 it's no valk push over quest nemesis 12:03 true 12:03 master kaen is nasty for sure 12:03 yaslexi: add even more types of high heels to the game... err wait, that's what I'm actually planning :P 12:04 <{Demo}2> there's only one type of heels 12:04 <{Demo}2> either a pair of shoes is heels, or it isn't 12:04 <{Demo}2> so just remove all the extra stuff 12:04 rofl Demo 12:04 Schrôdinger's heels: they're not heels until you wear them 12:04 *you don't know if they're heels or not 12:04 YASlexI: flying shoes and armor that want to be worn so instead of attacking you, they may jump into your inventory, equipped of course 12:05 what would heel-less shoes even look like? just the front half of a shoe 12:05 when reading novels, I always get annoyed when the narration just says "she slipped on a pair of high heels". I mean... what kind of heels? color, height etc.? why can't the narration ever say that :P 12:05 you won't believe this, i died within 4 turns of hitting the monk quest nemesis level 12:06 Dearest [author name] I am writing to you today to express utter disappointment in your description of the shoes the protagonist wore on page 113 12:06 I definitely do believe that winny lol 12:06 lol, i don't believe it except for checking the ttyrec 12:06 which doesn't lie ! 12:06 amateurhour, or worse, chapter 15 of a 100,000 word 10-chapter webnovel 12:07 I mean chapter 5 12:07 for master kaen I usually use a boulder fort the second I'm in there and then drop scare monster for the xorns 12:07 and start blasting with attack wands 12:07 yeah, perhaps i should have read the wiki first, but i was going for minimal spoilers (though i usually read all the spoilers) 12:08 the wiki article for kaen is a little outdated for 3.7 12:08 when I read "His Mistress for Christmas" by Victoria Alexander, it was even worse: the narration mentioned several times that the protagonist's shoes were unsuitable for taking a walk but didn't say anything else about them!!! what the hell 12:08 i imagine scare monster still works well on the nemesis 12:08 it does not winny 12:08 were they golden delicately filigreed stilettos or black lady boots with extra thick block heels or ...? 12:08 ah, good thing i didn't try it 12:09 also he's not immune to wand of death anymore 12:09 he doesn't have magic resistance because he doesn't wear the eyes 12:10 I think the problem is that nobody expects paralysis on the monk nemesis level 12:10 @?master kaen 12:10 Master Kaen (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 31 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 10 | Generates: unique | AC: -10 | Attacks: 16d2 claw physical, 16d2 claw physical, 0d0 cast clerical, 1d4 claw amulet steal | Alignment: -20 | Flags: herbivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 12:10 maybe the fact that it can cast spells should give it away 12:11 YASI: in addition to the Wizard of Yendor there is now also the Sorceress of Yendor, and the two alternate in appearing for harassment because even the dungeons have equality now. :D 12:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Ran Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14755 12:11 EPI: quest nemeses that have amulet steal attacks spawn randomly during the ascension run 12:12 master kaen killed you the way the elder cthulhu killed larientelrunya 12:12 yeah he casted paralysis on first turn 12:12 that's all i wrote lol 12:13 EPI: every quest nemesis should try to cast paralysis on the first turn 12:13 the elder priest in slex isn't strong enough, I buffed the hell out of him and yet porkman still managed to defeat him both times 12:13 ah the slex development cycle: 12:13 buffed him to make him as strong as in dnethack? 12:13 someone beats slex, slex gets made harder, ignore pleas of people that thinks it's too hard 12:13 repeat 12:14 bugsniper: nah, he was already as strong as he is in dnh but I buffed him quite a bit above that because otherwise it would be too easy! 12:14 I guess the advantage you get is plenty of time to prepare, while doing the 100 floor bell tower 12:15 yeah, and when porkman played, he still wasn't immune to time stop (he is now) 12:17 EPI: when time stop ends, monsters catch up on all the turns they would have gotten, so the longer you stop time, the more attacks you'll eat in a single turn when it ends, possibly resulting in being killed several times over. :P 12:18 huh maybe this isn't the full story with the worm thing 12:19 I'm seeing x=54 in rloc getting passed to rloc_to where it appears to be x=-14640, then passed to place_worm_tail_randomly as x=-54 12:19 uh =54* 12:20 so it fails the check where mtmp->mx == x, because -14640 != 54 12:20 yasi: reading the scroll of scare monster in a shop should raise your prices. If confused or cursed, the opposite should happen. 12:20 why's that bugsniper? 12:21 because they don't want to sell to the enemy, and if you're scary, you sound like an enemy 12:21 if your cha is high you should intimidate them into lowering prices 12:23 while we're on YASIs: if you're polymorphed into an incubus/succubus, you should be able to hit on the shopkeeper for a slightly lower price 12:23 LarienTelrunya, you have something like that. I remember a few roles. 12:23 but seducing the shopkeeper just makes them angry 12:24 bugsniper: huh? you mean the SLASH'EM thing where certain roles get a markup at shops? 12:24 and gets them to throw money at you though 12:24 no, the kurwa 12:24 and I don't know if you've added any other role or race that does that 12:25 ah yeah, the kurwa (and also the prostitute) can seduce people via #chat-ting :D 12:25 how do they ask for services though if they are done the same way? 12:34 they don't, their seduction overrides all normal uses of #chat, meaning no protection from temple priests 12:35 shop services are accessed via the pay command though and therefore still available 12:39 [hdf-us] [sp] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Neu), 1127 points, T:1436, quit 12:41 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 29748 points, T:1679, killed by a killer bee 12:45 I see, I forgot about that 12:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4368 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:9963 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:44155 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:10108 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:42215 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44601 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44602 12:58 -!- j6p_ has joined #hardfought 12:59 -!- j6p__ has joined #hardfought 13:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:00 -!- j6p has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02 -!- j6p_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:53663 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:10623 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:45349 13:14 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:8331 13:15 -!- j6p__ is now known as j6p 13:20 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12132 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46724 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] amelie (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 22282 points, T:10700, killed by a bolt of fire 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46732 13:32 -!- engelson has joined #hardfought 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:47017 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:47144 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:47145 13:36 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10385 points, T:16346, killed by a little dog, while fainted from lack of food 13:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10129 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:48423 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:48725 13:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class c, on T:56536 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:48892 13:49 [hdf-us] [fh] Amelie (amelie) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 52037 points, T:10993, killed by a vampire bat, while unconscious from rotten food 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:49002 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:49019 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) put the invisible Death down for a little nap, on T:49093 13:54 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:49141 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2364650 points, T:49162, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MHL/nethack/dumplog/1598721570.nh.html 13:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cobisiah (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:29027 13:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:16529 14:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 2771 points, T:1735, killed by a gnome lord 14:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 34 points, T:139, killed by a newt 14:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:28126 14:07 You know I want Magicbane my Lady. 14:07 cool thing about tourist though, they can use pretty much any weapon 14:09 Except club, which is a bit annoying! 14:10 Aklys would be perfect for starting tourist 14:10 <@riker> aklys are just too stronk 14:11 In this case I want magicbane mostly for the MR 14:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:12 at the moment any stupid gnome with a wand of death could kill me :-) 14:12 unfortunately no scroll of genocide yet for home-made MR of reflection 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] skwrl (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:21543 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Set, on T:42887 14:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 1838 points, T:1734, killed by a dwarf zombie 14:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 26 points, T:300, killed by a sewer rat 14:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 134 points, T:297, killed by a grid bug 14:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 519 points, T:1463, killed by a gnome lord 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:25070 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:12984 14:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:17417 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25414 14:43 DIE 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:13370 14:52 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:11174 14:59 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cobisiah (Con Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31887 15:07 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 1089 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45665 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:1259 15:26 -!- engelson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:27 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 31577 points, T:3146, killed by a snake 15:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2098 15:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:28505 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1152 points, T:2273, killed by a wand 15:33 OK Frost Brand is really nice. But next time Magicbane? 15:34 'this foolish guy thinks he knows what's good for him, well I know better' 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:46519 15:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cobisiah (Con Dro Mal Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:33282 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 41 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46974 15:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a long sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:28651 15:53 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 36015 points, T:2634, killed by a magic missile 15:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 20080 points, T:5113, burned by molten lava 16:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Ran Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Scout, on T:21692 16:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:355 16:05 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11544 16:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:18 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) defeated the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57750 16:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of boxing gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2399 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3062 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3113 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 63 arrows on an altar, on T:3116 16:25 amateurhour, are you altar scumming??? 16:25 no, I just used a bag of tricks 16:25 cba camping an altar 16:26 found two bags of tricks, gonna use them instead of just leaving them 16:26 phew! ;-) 16:27 of course it summons zombies 16:27 lol 16:27 yeah if you have create mon wands or bags of tricks a little hanging out by an altar is OK 16:27 anything else unacceptable behaviour 16:28 and if you have a ring of slow digestion? 16:28 shame giftless isn't a real conduct 16:29 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 33588 points, T:4445, killed by a white unicorn 16:32 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33 amateurhour: lol, like what'd that be, atheist-lite? 16:33 "you can buc test but you better be careful about saccing for luck..." 16:33 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:58767 16:33 yeah why not 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3365 16:34 you could also not be such a wimp and go full atheist 16:34 but i guess I have no real objection 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 614 points, T:3383, killed by a rock mole 16:35 you could also not be such a wimp and do nudist permahallu zen 16:35 or whatever 16:35 but that's not the point 16:35 :c 16:35 i know 16:35 lol 16:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 71 points, T:172, killed by a fox 16:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2698 16:38 you lucky bastard 16:38 * amateurhour drops it 16:38 woooo 16:38 wepaonless!!! 16:39 weaponless even 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3680 16:39 I think K2 actually may have made the best game 16:39 because all the cool people want to play it 16:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3c_pJ_CLJQ 16:40 what usually happens for me and evilhack is I play it for a bit, realise I'm too bad to play it 16:40 then give up and play another variant 16:40 I tried a few times but it scares me and I'm rubbish 16:41 K2: hey is that you! 16:41 love the haircut 16:41 rofl 16:41 is EvilHack also hosted in a corn field? 16:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 556 points, T:1247, killed by a gnome lord 16:41 <@riker> it's evilhack, not nebraskahack 16:42 meanwhile, master Po is proud of amateurhour 16:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:42 i forgot which state is K2 in but I also think it is not nebraska 16:42 <@riker> i remember which and it's definitely not nebraska 16:42 I don't think there are a ton of corn fields in vermont 16:43 Master Po hates mobileuser 16:43 you know what I'm starting to think y'all 16:43 I think that wasn't even K2 in the video 16:43 it wasnt 16:43 :O 16:43 vermont is hilly enough to not have large crop fields, but not too steep to not have grazing fields, thus all the cows 16:43 it was my stunt double 16:43 <@riker> no way - that's definitely k2 16:43 xD 16:43 <@riker> ah, nevermind, ok that makes morse sense 16:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Mon Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12322 16:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2855 16:44 * amateurhour drops it 16:44 \o/ 16:44 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) defeated the high priest of Moloch, on T:58880 16:44 pretty impressive you're still going for weaponless in Evil 16:44 I'd be soiling my breeches 16:45 its doable 16:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had an etched staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2949 16:45 used my bags and wand of create monster now 16:45 tricky one, is it a spell enhancing staff? 16:45 Weaponless isn't as bad as pacifist, IMO. 16:46 i've never pulled off pacifist 16:46 yes I have two staves now but no spells they count towards 16:46 weaponless is just spamming w- every few seconds, it's easy enough 16:47 just gotta watch out for using pickaxes 16:47 I've only done easy conducts, like wishless, polyitemless, polyselfless. 16:47 because some sadists think there should even be a warning about breaking weaponless when applying a pick 16:47 shouldn't* 16:47 Didn't see much point attempting the harder ones until I can do the harder _roles_. 16:47 Hardest role I've managed so far is probably Priest. 16:48 I've not done a priest at all yet I think 16:48 tourist and ranger seems to be the most difficult roles for me 16:48 I've only done the easy conducts as well jonadab, and as monk where they were slightly easier 16:49 Ranger is only hard until you realize that you in fact can and probably should use ranged attacks even when at point blank range. 16:49 And the difficulty of Tourist is overblown. It's not that bad. Priest is harder. 16:49 Granted, it's much harder than Valk, Sam. 16:49 yeah Sam, stop thinking Valk is harder than Tourist 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:16419 16:50 <@riker> !whereis microlance 16:50 @riker: [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh]: (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) T:9420 The Gnomish Mines level: 3 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Mal Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1045 16:53 I think priest is easier than tourist 16:53 but than I really like priest 16:53 *then 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:1870 17:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3183 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6612 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1286 points, T:3725, killed by karibou's ghost 17:08 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3727 17:14 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 17:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1707 points, T:4819, killed by a piranha 17:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:13161 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 10285 points, T:7935, killed by a leocrotta 17:28 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2916 17:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a silver broadsword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:30254 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:18473 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18474 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48434 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48436 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided arch-liches, on T:48452 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5574 points, T:4961, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:52 nethack mythbusters: floating eye gazing attack happens even if the monster can't see your invisible character 17:52 <@riker> floating eyes have see invisible obviously 17:58 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:60655 18:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:2108 18:08 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:10 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1789 points, T:2292, killed by a human zombie 18:18 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Dan Inf Fem Cha), 1234 points, T:2940, killed by an invisible Green-elf 18:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed Seyll Auzkovyn, on T:15353 18:24 so I did some profiling of fiqhack 18:24 it led to some pelicular results 18:25 <{Demo}2> what was really heavy? 18:25 the inventory sidebar *drastically* slows down the UI 18:25 like.. way more than it ought to 18:25 I'm probably doing something dumb 18:25 but basically, it causes the game to run 3 times slower 18:25 <{Demo}2> damn 18:30 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached the Astral Plane, on T:61295 18:32 figured out the problem 18:32 each time the game reloads the sidebar, it forces a complete redraw of the entire screen 18:32 a highly redundant task 18:33 disabling it makes the game run twice as fast 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:18814 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:18946 18:37 <{Demo}2> does it not do that for a reason? 18:38 <{Demo}2> like, is it gonna take some work to get it working without doing that? 18:38 [hdf-au] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3769 18:40 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] amelie (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 880 points, T:1137, killed by a copper crossbow bolt, while sleeping off a magical draught 18:43 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3004 18:46 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 dilithium crystals", on T:61406 18:46 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 dilithium crystals", on T:61408 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3593 18:47 {Demo}2: well kind of 18:47 basically I was a bit overzealous when I fixed a display error in the sidebar that nh4 has 18:48 I redraw the frames on sidebar unlike nh4 to fix the frame joining up properly in the sidebar between inventory and floor objects 18:48 but the whole screen refresh afterwards was overkill 18:48 <{Demo}2> ah 18:48 it works fine without it 18:50 FIQ: if you can make nethack run slower than 60fps you have problems 18:52 aosdict: perf is fine, it was just a bit slower in callgrind than it ought to be 18:52 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Pir Vam Fem Cha) attained the rank of Cutthroat, on T:3371 18:52 well, valgrind is where I noticed it 18:52 hence the profiling 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:19331 18:54 also fixed the travel functionality being far slower than it should be 18:54 travel pathfinding in fiqhack searches for traps for the purpose of figuring out travel pathfinding 18:54 er, -redundant "travel pathfinding" 18:54 I think it does that in some other variants too 18:55 basically so that it stops you before the trap instead of doing something stupid like running into a wall 18:55 because it doesn't know how to route to somewhere 18:55 due to there being a trap in the way 18:56 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 304452 points, T:61465, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/groovejumper/fiqhack/dumplog/2020-08-31%2022%3A56%3A08%2C%20groovejumper-Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20ascended.txt 18:56 like 50% of travel code is spent on dealing with traps, and I'd imagine mines to be even worse since mines has more traps 18:56 [hdf-au] [spl] Antediluvia (Pir Vam Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3653 18:57 so I ended up caching traps on a per-tile location in addition to the normal trap linked list 18:57 gratz groovejumper! (if you're here) 18:57 <{Demo}2> oh thats nice 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3919 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:49236 18:58 so t_at is now much faster than it was previously 18:58 which also affects other things, but travel was easily the worst offender 18:58 <{Demo}2> be careful with t_at 18:58 <{Demo}2> things might call it with not ok coords 18:58 what about it 18:58 <{Demo}2> this is what happened with m_at 18:58 <{Demo}2> there used to be no per-tile location cache for monsters 18:59 <{Demo}2> and m_at would look for ones with matching x and y on the list 18:59 hm I'm fairly sure monsters has always had cached locations 18:59 <{Demo}2> nope 18:59 <{Demo}2> and they used to only be on the lsit 19:00 I suppose I could always add an isok 19:00 <{Demo}2> yeah you ought to 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a T-shirt, on T:3943 19:00 either that or add an impossible 19:01 and over time as people report it, get rid of places that check t_at with bad coords 19:01 yeah I think I'll do that 19:02 <{Demo}2> yeah 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:19426 19:02 !tell K2 pushed minor performance improvement fixes to fiqhack 19:02 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 19:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:19432 19:06 <{Demo}2> fiq, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_1.3d/invent.c line 173 for old m_at, before it was a macro 19:06 <{Demo}2> this caused problems notably for slashem 19:06 <{Demo}2> where it would use m_at all the time with stuff that could very easily be unsafe 19:06 <{Demo}2> and when vanilla changed how it worked under the hood, it nevre got updated 19:06 <@riker> hm. time to abuse nethack 1.3d 19:06 <{Demo}2> ? 19:07 <@riker> m_at with a funky thing could crash, right? 19:07 <{Demo}2> no, thats in new versions 19:07 <{Demo}2> in that, its fine 19:07 <@riker> aw 19:07 <{Demo}2> which is why it was a problem 19:07 <{Demo}2> because before it was changed, there was a lot of stuff that assumed it would still be ok 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:19536 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3782 points, T:4741, killed by a wolf 19:14 oh when you said that it used to not have a per-tile cache, I assumed you meant like 3.4.3 :P 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 498 points, T:2308, killed by a giant bat 19:21 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 35100 points, T:3934, killed by a soldier ant 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:21220 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 636 points, T:1894, killed by a giant mimic 19:34 -!- Heliokopis has joined #hardfought 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:21861 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:21867 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:21873 19:46 !who 19:46 Heliokopis: [hdf-us] tinklebear [nh370] Cropper [nh370] phaperplane2 [dnh] FlopsyBunny [nh343] Heliokopis [fh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] FlopsyBunny [nh343] 19:59 -!- Menchers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:00 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 36100 points, T:2836, killed by a dwarf zombie, while fainted from lack of food 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:22904 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:22919 20:17 -!- Heliokopis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22 -!- j6p has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:23179 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:23267 20:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] ApocalypseBird (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 1537 points, T:1192, killed by a dwarf 20:31 YANI: when "the missiles bounce off" from a magic missile ray hitting something magic resistant, they clearly aren't bouncing off in the exact same direction of travel - so the ray stops there 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:23551 20:35 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 20:36 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:23141 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:23800 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:23802 20:44 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:24163 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:24164 20:49 <@riker> aosdict why exactly can magic missile even hit multiple targets? 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:24259 20:50 idk 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:24261 20:50 <@riker> I'd have assumed that the darts created hit one and only one target each 20:50 <@riker> maybe reasonable to have it keep going if and only if it actually killed the target completely, I suppose 20:51 <@riker> but that's probably overkill unless you actually go try to simulate the D&D spell exacrly 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:24604 20:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) became the Hand of Eilistraee, on T:22233 20:58 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:24876 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:24879 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Heroine, on T:24886 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:25144 21:06 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 21:09 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:26050 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:26267 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:26407 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:26462 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed chickatrice corpse", on T:26464 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:26473 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a succubus", on T:26516 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a succubus", on T:26517 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law), 1867910 points, T:26526, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Cropper/nethack/dumplog/1598842927.nh.html 21:35 -!- Menchers has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 21:38 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 27957 points, T:1916, killed by a bugbear 21:46 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) murdered Lilje, her faithful black light, on T:6665 22:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed mithril ring of free action", on T:24868 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 6472 points, T:7418, killed by withering away, while praying 22:08 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Law), 41124 points, T:2998, killed by a watch captain 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered Yolanda, her faithful kitten, on T:780 22:21 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Law), 20501 points, T:805, killed by a bugbear 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:55034 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:32907 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:55269 22:45 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3253 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3417 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 13 daggers named (+0) on an altar, on T:3425 23:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed plaxcaster's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:25812 23:07 ha cha cha cha 23:08 [hdf-au] [nh343] FlopsyBunny (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7388 points, T:12162, killed by a guard 23:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] bobross (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 240 points, T:335, killed by a poisonous corpse 23:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:28978 23:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:34 -!- Heliokopis has joined #hardfought 23:45 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 23:49 -!- sebastia1toby has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:71725 23:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Heroine, on T:58636