00:00 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:111659 00:00 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:111814 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:27019 00:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed the elder priestess of Moloch, on T:111951 00:10 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 00:10 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 00:10 -!- bugsniper has quit [Client Quit] 00:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) averted death, on T:20279 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:27226 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:27233 00:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:20539 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:27264 00:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:21351 00:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given their Quest, on T:18672 00:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) killed Sir Garland, on T:19394 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:27381 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:27382 00:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 209212 points, T:19534, killed by an ettin zombie 00:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 5 points, T:117, killed by a jackal 00:39 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40 -!- 32NAAC9U9 has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- 7GHAB5M3F has joined #hardfought 00:42 -!- aoei_ has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.1 - https://znc.in] 00:44 <@Sig> bugsniper_: Nobody else was playing or talking at the time so the chat was just nothing but updates on Microlance's Meat Grinder. I thought it was funny. 00:47 <@riker> to be fair: it was funny 00:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:2991 00:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:24099 00:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given Hellrider's Saddle, on T:3451 00:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7912 01:07 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Cha) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:25667 01:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 18021 points, T:8609, killed by an Uruk-hai 01:15 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 01:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 01:15 <@microlance> wut 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:14811 01:15 <@microlance> grinding gnomes is a great time 01:16 <@microlance> you should try it out 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14827 01:16 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 01:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 01:20 -!- 7GHAB5M3F has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:21 -!- 32NAAC9U9 is now known as bug_sniper 01:21 [hdf-us] [spl] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 84 points, T:333, killed by a goblin 01:22 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 01:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 01:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1486 01:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 26630 points, T:4124, killed by a gargoyle, while fainted from lack of food 02:03 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 02:13 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Cha), 7470 points, T:5076, killed by a giant ant 02:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:81191 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:81203 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:81471 02:29 -!- Tangles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Sorcerer, on T:81675 02:39 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law), 32 points, T:120, killed by a sewer rat 02:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:26289 02:58 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 03:01 [hdf-us] [un] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 226 points, T:1255, killed by Ms. Manlobbi, the shopkeeper 03:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) was given Hellrider's Saddle, on T:26691 03:05 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 03:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) was given Nodensfork, on T:26880 03:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) became the Messenger of Hermes, on T:26959 03:11 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 03:11 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:12 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 03:14 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:15 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 03:15 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 03:16 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 03:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +5 tiny bone pick axe", on T:27683 03:29 @microlance why not with for a pickaxe keychain? 03:30 I mean, I've heard of a derringer gun on a keychain 03:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:28648 03:41 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:41 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:41 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 03:41 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] Bot (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:26472 03:47 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:47 -!- bugsniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:47 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:49 -!- zhangoke has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Law) killed the invisible Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:29143 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Curator, on T:51960 04:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50380 04:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50381 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:28856 04:12 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 04:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9560 04:29 [hdf-us] [un] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2509 points, T:5010, killed by a vampire 04:34 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:37 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 04:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:32244 04:42 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:42 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 potions of confusion", on T:29350 04:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:29391 04:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:12828 04:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:29578 04:57 -!- stenno1 is now known as stenno34 04:57 -!- stenno34 is now known as stenno 04:58 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13657 05:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 atma weapon", on T:33262 05:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:29589 05:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:29644 05:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law), 1851216 points, T:29656, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/X/XYS/nethack/dumplog/1598151473.nh.html 05:24 grats 05:24 <@ShivanHunter> Go Team @! 05:24 heh maybe I should modify my filter 05:24 instead of ignoring Beholder completely 05:24 just let ascensions come through 05:24 xD 05:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 bone helm of brilliance", on T:35883 05:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed mithril magic whistle", on T:50751 05:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17267 05:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed mithril amulet of magic breathing", on T:50767 05:31 sigh spelling mistake 05:32 what did you get? 05:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed mithril amulet of magical breathing", on T:50768 05:33 Random amulet 05:33 bonus FU points if you now have two identical amulets 05:33 yup :-( 05:33 heh 05:34 oh I got a nice strangulation amulet the first time 05:35 -!- heliokopis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:36 tbh I also don't get what's so special about #3143 but apparently you can just kill off a bunch of random characters to make it into the qdb :P 05:39 i don't make quality control 05:40 i only reject quotes if they are racist or sexist, or unrelated to nethack 05:40 yeah, I was more surprised that it was sent in 05:40 fair 05:41 then again #3134 was also sent in (not by me, I wouldn't have that awful colon in place of a > bracket :P) and I'm glad that it was ;) 05:42 <@microlance> is that the one where im doing gnome con after con after con after con after con. 05:42 no thats 3143 05:42 er yes thats the one killing a character over and over 05:43 <@microlance> its the only way to play gnome convíct in dnh 😦 since gnomes are so bad 05:43 obtw stenno, it still bugs me that someone sent in https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2389 without actually spelling out my name, can you fix that? bundle bundle ;) 05:44 ok 05:45 yaaaaaaaay thanks ♥♥♥ :) 05:45 fixed 05:45 <3 awesome! 05:46 np 05:50 yo stenno 05:50 hey Amy 05:50 moin moin naja wie gehts 05:51 lol 05:51 es geht gut 05:51 hi aoei *bundleling* I'm here for about four hours, then I need to leave for the second part of today's split shift 05:51 aoei: heute ist mein Geburtstag :D 05:51 LarienTelrunya, yay bundles 05:51 stenno, :o 05:51 ich bin jetzt sehr alt 05:51 echt? 05:51 Ich brauche jetzt einen Gehstock zum Laufen 05:51 ooooooooh happy birthday stenno!!! 🎂 ♥♥♥♥♥ <3 <3 *hug* *cuddle* 05:51 wie alt? 05:52 haha thanks LarienTelrunya 05:52 ich bin jetzt 34 Jahre alt 05:52 herzlichen glückwunsch!! 05:52 dankeee ^_^ 05:52 ja du bist fast schon grau und trocken :P 05:52 wow you're just a few months older than me? ;) 05:52 genau! 05:52 ich been nur 29 05:52 bin* 05:53 aoei: Dann streng dich mal an, vielleicht bist du dann irgendwann auch mal so alt wie ich :) 05:53 eventuell.. 05:53 LarienTelrunya: i was aware that we were pretty much the same age, but i didn't know it was that close, nice 05:54 aber ich werde immer noch sehr schön in 5 Jahre sein 05:54 lol 05:54 bei mir geht es irgendwann bergab mit Fitness und Gesundheit :P 05:55 Ich sollte viel mehr Sport machen und gesund essen und so 05:55 das kann auch ne gute idee sein 05:55 ehrlich habe ich nicht viel Sport diesem Sommer gemacht 05:57 stenno, aber ich habe kein zigaretten für ... 36 stunden oder so geraucht \o/ 05:57 oh sehr gut! 05:58 nocht nicht sehr lang aber normaleweise fugg ich den ersten tag ab 05:59 <@ShivanHunter> Velox neb. Venzar borgavve? 05:59 lets switch to english again ^_^" 06:00 lol 06:00 <@ShivanHunter> :P 06:00 but then they'll know when we insult them stenno :C 06:01 haha 06:01 i assume there are t least 10 german-speaking people in this channel 06:01 that wouldn't be so wise 06:01 lol 06:01 stenno, did I tell you I recently discovered I can understand german completely everything perfect, 06:01 if the video I'm watcching is a NetHack Letsplay 06:02 lol 06:02 did you watch the irrenhaus letsplay? 06:02 ermmm 06:02 maybe 06:02 they are really good 06:02 it was the one with the archaeologist song in the beginning but it wasn't the original letsplay to use taht song 06:02 i think maybe it was indeed somebody called irrenhaus 06:03 made quite some noob mistakes but maybe they got better since :D 06:03 it would be so great if irrenhaus were to just make a video of "RNGhausen" slex for once ;) 06:05 LarienTelrunya, if I play slex again I hope I find a really big armour shop so I can get all of the heels 06:05 failing that maybe polymorph random armor? 06:05 heh, if you enhance your high heels skill to expert you learn a technique that creates random heels out of thin air :D 06:05 WHAT 06:05 omg 06:05 no wai 06:06 lmao that is so silly 06:06 TDT^H^H^HAmy thinks of everything 06:06 wait thats not normally how you use TDTTOE 06:07 just wanted to say 06:07 but Amy is providing for my need for shoes, so that's grand 06:08 a rare case of being nice to the player 06:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4876 06:25 aoei: are you playing as female? 06:25 cuz gl getting high heels to expert as a male 06:27 LarienTelrunya: Amy! ^ this is sexist! 06:27 lol, the skill trains with the same speed regardless of the char's gender 06:27 nothing sexist there :P 06:27 <@Joanna> Yeah but you start female if you're a transvestite 06:28 <@Joanna> However, I think if I find an amulet of change later its all good 06:28 !who 06:28 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] elenmirie [evil] mmj [nh370] Raisse [nh370] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 06:28 <@Joanna> Can't start female i meant to say 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5999 06:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Gaelan (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1087 points, T:2649, killed by a large cat 06:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4952 points, T:6745, killed by a hill orc called Ogunu of Ahaia 06:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1475 06:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed mmj's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1628 06:56 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 07:01 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:02 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 godhands", on T:3604 07:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3826 points, T:2321, killed by a gray unicorn 07:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4375 07:12 I agree with bug_sniper that a nhqdb quote consisting of just a bunch of deaths and no actual conversation is not funny or interesting, and was surprised to see it get upvoted so much so quickly. 07:13 there are also a couple others on there that are just a bunch of deaths and wishes by the same person, most of those are solidly negative 07:15 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Hum Mal Cha) was given Plague, on T:5400 07:21 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 07:24 -!- j6p has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Gaelan (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3164 07:27 -!- j6p has joined #hardfought 07:30 aosdict, yeah that is a bit weird 07:30 i also didn't find this multiple deaths of microlance quote to be very quoteworthy 07:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Gaelan (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2197 points, T:3342, killed by a soldier ant 07:48 -!- j6p_ has joined #hardfought 07:49 -!- j6p has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:13 !pom 08:13 nabru: The moon is at first quarter; full moon in 6 days. 08:15 -!- j6p_ is now known as j6p 08:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:112990 08:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] bagun (Nob Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 grey dragon scale mail", on T:1208 08:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 155516 points, T:13414, poisoned by a unicorn horn 08:22 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:26 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) destroyed Death, on T:113169 08:27 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:113195 08:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law), 6413916 points, T:113262, poisoned by Death (with the Amulet) 08:31 I'm on a graveyard level and there's a ghost with my name in the graveyard, which gave me "You feel like you've been here before" though it wasn't *my* ghost 08:31 I mean it wasn't a bones level 08:32 is this normal? 08:32 I mean, just a way to scare me, or a bug? 08:32 raisse: considered by players to be a bug, devteam opinion unknown 08:32 qt_ made a pull request that does it properly 08:33 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/374 08:33 ...did they also send an email about it or nah 08:33 <{Demo}2> what a weird way for an acu to die 08:34 <@riker> !lastgame ndnh 08:34 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/phaperplane2/notdnethack/dumplog/1597844851.ndnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/notdnethack/dumplog/1598193774.ndnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/notdnethack/dumplog/1591768246.ndnh.txt 08:34 nani 08:34 oh ok 08:35 <@riker> they didnt see it apparently 08:35 <{Demo}2> oh yeah their status bar was always full 08:35 <{Demo}2> not sure why they played that way 08:35 aosdict, yeah I also consider it a bug 08:35 <{Demo}2> or why they went in range of death 08:35 <{Demo}2> Astral is a joke as an acu 08:35 is anyone here actually in direct communication with this mysterious devteam? 08:35 <{Demo}2> just mind blast a few times and everything dies 08:35 (im not coutning ais523) 08:36 no 08:36 ah right 08:36 bhaak, that's what I thought 08:36 <{Demo}2> lol 08:36 lol 08:36 <@riker> iirc larientelrunya is a devteam member 08:36 <@riker> :p 08:36 wait really? 08:36 I thought she just worked on slex 08:36 <@riker> no she hates 3.6+ 08:36 oh yeah true 08:37 she mentions this all over the wiki 08:37 Amy how much do you hate 3.6 08:37 very much so :P 08:37 it's such a silly variant 08:37 I mean come on, vampire bats resurrecting as vampires with full HP. such stuff doesn't belong into vanilla 08:37 what would you say is particularly upsetting 08:37 or orctown 08:38 and now those spider rooms... lol 08:38 talk about balance lol 08:38 > likes slashem with busted poly mechanics 08:38 yeah the spider room thing seems to be a serious issue 08:38 > cries about vampires in vanilla 08:38 :P 08:38 amateurhour: hey slashem is a variant, I'd expect to see such stuff there :P 08:38 i guess its a thing of expectation 08:38 one might expect vanilla to be a bit more sensible 08:38 vanilla was pure until 3.6 came along, where it got unnethackified, and not just a little 08:39 and avoid slex or slash'em because they are there for the purpose of being ridiculous 08:39 slash'em was pure until slex came along when it got bundled, and not just a little 08:39 :^) 08:39 Amy I think he's saying you bundled slex too much 08:39 <@riker> bundling is a good thing tho, to an extent 08:40 that's impossible, you can never bundle anyone or anything too much! 08:40 bundling is cute and fun 08:40 obligatory different opinion: I love 3.6 and never want to go back to 3.4.3 08:40 LarienTelrunya, :D 08:40 * aoei bundles LarienTelrunya 08:40 I agree mobileuser! 08:40 yaaaaay bundlebundlebundle! 08:40 I think a lot of things are better in 3.6 08:40 but it makes speedrunning harder with some of the nerfs 08:40 :c 08:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] bagun (Bin Hum Mal Non), 394 points, T:806, killed by a gnome 08:41 speedrunning 3.7 must be even more difficult 08:42 i don't even dare attempt that anymore mobe 08:42 trying to streak 3.7 is probably loads of "fun" 08:42 lol the giant spider bites you! lol of course it was poisoned! lol of course it was deadly! 08:42 3.6 I feel like maybe I can maybe get a decent polyrun going with a bit of luck 08:42 but 3.7 terrifies me 08:42 so I have to play vanilla on NAO now xD 08:42 polyrun? 08:42 amateurhour, polyself-based turncount speedrunning 08:43 oh 08:43 heavy use of polyself is how nearly all the sub 10k runs are done 08:43 what's different in 3.7 that makes that not as easy? 08:43 not sure actually besides the spider thing 08:43 the big nerfs were 3.4.3 -> 3.6, for gametime running at least 08:44 E is no longer guaranteed to get you to the castle 08:44 in 3.4.3 it was almost a guarantee 08:44 that if you had a pick-axe you could get down there 08:44 not necessarily in a good position to go and win, mind 08:44 meh, nerfing elbereth is good imo 08:44 in 3.4.3 E was a cheat code :P the 3.6.0 nerf was so good, why the hell did they have to screw us over by making a different nerf in 3.6.1 08:44 but you could sometimes get down there and get the wand as a really squishy elf 08:45 amateurhour, I agree 08:45 I'm just saying it was rather useful for speedruns 08:45 what does slex do with elbereth other than just randomly para you if you're stood on it? 08:45 in slex, E "sometimes works": certain monster types (especially mindless blind ones like fungi) are highly resistant, and generally higher-level monsters often resist 08:46 and of course most bosses are immune 08:46 hmm, im not sure I followed those changes closely or have since forgotten, what was the 3.6.0, and what did they switch it to for 3.6.1? 08:46 in 3.6.0 E could fade whenever it scared something, more likely the lower the engraving's quality 08:46 in 3.6.1 and onwards, you instead get a hypocrisy penalty and lose the E when you attack, so you need to step off, THEN stab/shoot the enemy in the back, which is needlessly cumbersome. 08:47 yeah im not sure i like that mechanic either tbh 08:47 that seems fine lol 08:47 (or if near a wall, scuff the E by zero-gametime-walking into the wall and then stabbing/shooting the enemy in the back) 08:47 it shouldn't be a magic cheat shield that means you can just gank any enemy without drawback 08:48 yeah but i guess both options improve the balance 08:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:2857 08:48 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 08:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 08:48 dunno which is better/more fair 08:48 deleting elbereth entirely 08:48 :) 08:48 On the rare occasion that I actually use Elbereth, I find 3.7 to be the most balanced. 08:48 Wait no amateurhour is right 08:48 but if it turns out being easy but sort of cumbersome to hop on and off E 08:49 meh yeah 08:49 E is dumb 08:49 I don't use it anymore anyway 08:49 I use it once a game at most, usually none if I can help it. I have at least one Elbereth-less ascension. 08:49 <{Demo}2> I don't use E but I miss MC being way stronger and easier to get 08:49 I got used to E in 3.6, works fine for me 08:50 i think I have a fair few E-less ascensions by now 08:50 never ascended having used elbereth 08:50 ah yeah the MC nerf with the dumb ring of protection... I'm happy to still have MC3 on most items in slex :P (although I did nerf the general effectiveness of MC3) 08:50 when I started E was all the rage you know 08:50 back in '07-'13 or so 08:50 Amy isn't there like MC 9 or something in slex or am I remembering wrong 08:50 'spose im gettin long in the tooth now 08:51 amateurhour: yeah, you can reach such high values with certain items 08:51 when I started playing 3.6 I dreaded the MC nerf, but it wasn't actually as bad as I had read about. 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2830 08:51 the MC nerf makes vampires suck much more unless you have Excalibur (due to playing samurai I do :P), and makes it that much more urgent to geno disenchanters, apart from that it doesn't do much 08:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a homunculus, on T:22467 08:52 meh I don't find disenchanters too bad 08:52 Same 08:52 i can usually run away, teleport, or death wand them 08:53 i also agree with the MC nerf generally 08:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 83687 points, T:22511, killed by a giant mummy 08:53 altho maybe having just *one* other cloak give MC3 would be nice 08:53 using wands of death on them feels like a waste, especially since vanilla makes them miss way too often 08:53 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Kni Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:18404 08:53 I am bothered by the need for drain resistance in 3.7 though. I feel like it forces Excalibur in runs a lot more. 08:53 argh got polytrapped, so the mummy rehumanized me and I was AC 10 08:53 LarienTelrunya, I guess, but they're also susceptible to other things 08:53 there is nothing, and I repeat nothing, that you can do in vanilla to make wands hit more often :/ 08:53 LarienTelrunya, why not? 08:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1721 points, T:1769, quit 08:54 I dunno, all I know is that it is the case, there is no stat or anything that improves wand accuracy 08:54 ah right 08:54 …wait, doesn’t luck improve it? 08:54 maybe we should add a wand skill :^) noone has ever hated that idea before 08:54 if so, it doesn't have a significant impact 08:54 lol wand skill :P 08:54 AntiGulp, im not sure it actually does i want to check this now 08:55 aoei: It doesn’t, I just checked 08:55 oh you beat me 08:56 thanks xD 08:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 789 points, T:1620, killed by a soldier ant 08:56 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:18579 08:57 <{Demo}2> i finally figured out how to defeat slex 08:57 :o 08:57 <{Demo}2> just add everything ever to another variant, but implement it in a way amy would hate it, so amy HATES that variant and EVERYTHING it does 08:57 <{Demo}2> an if it does EVERYTHING, just in a way she'd hate, she'll have nothing left she doesn't hate to add to slex 08:57 {Demo}2: porkman already had that idea, his variant died three commits in :P 08:57 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:18581 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:10, killed by a water demon, while vomiting 08:58 <{Demo}2> i think he died 3 commits in tbh 08:59 Come to think of it, I don’t think I’ve seen porkman since he announced he would start working on PorkHack 08:59 he streaked slex so he was probably mentally exhausted from that and imploded 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3673 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:3941 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 286 points, T:563, killed by a small mimic 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:4528 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4649 09:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 138357 points, T:15451, killed by a dire sheep, while reading a book 09:10 books r dangerous 09:11 <{Demo}2> counting sheep 09:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3114 points, T:4173, petrified by a cockatrice 09:16 lol has my "fountains r dangerous" comment actually gained meme status? :D 09:16 hah 09:16 was that when he got kicked in the shins to death 09:17 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3098 09:17 aoei: nah that was the tai chi girl 09:17 with her very cuuuuuuuute leather peep-toes! ♥ 09:18 hehe 09:18 ah right the fountain was a crazy op demon 09:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6365 09:18 fountains r soooo dangerous u kno 09:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6484 09:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6608 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1401 09:23 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 09:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2997 09:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2455 points, T:2617, quit 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7006 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 19231 points, T:7019, killed by an exploding wand, while frozen by a monster 09:27 ... 09:29 <{Demo}2> !lastgame nabru 09:29 {Demo}2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1598443627.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/slex/dumplog/1590976383.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed mmj's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1550 09:31 dammit, bones level but my predecessor died in a shop 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Gaelan (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:1476 09:33 Too bad bones can't be left in sokoban (soko-bones?), I had some good stuff with me 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Gaelan (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 516 points, T:1482, killed by a small mimic 09:40 Right, yes, shockingly, the shop with the bones of someone killed by a mimic contained a mimic 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Gaelan (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4 points, T:13, killed by an arrow 09:41 … 09:41 don't step on stacks of items with corpses at level 1. right. 09:44 <{Demo}2> or do, cause sometimes theres cool cursed stuff :P 09:44 -!- Heliokopis has joined #hardfought 09:44 <{Demo}2> and if it is fresh enough, u can eat the corpse 09:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:9378 09:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:9421 09:48 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 09:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:15662 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Gaelan (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 26 points, T:94, killed by a kobold zombie, while praying 09:50 well this is just embarrassing now 09:51 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:20608 09:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] naoky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1249 points, T:2504, killed by a sewer rat 10:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:12241 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3029 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3483 10:13 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:13017 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:82056 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:82060 10:20 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:30501 10:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:52533 10:22