00:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5257 00:06 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:23568 00:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:19838 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Val Dwa Fem Law), 126506 points, T:24318, killed by a minotaur 00:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 8538 points, T:3296, killed by a gnome zombie 00:38 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- zhangoke has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 00:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:20991 00:43 -!- zhangoke has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:5103 00:48 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 00:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed A'gone, on T:22207 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6591 01:17 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 01:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 bone helm of opposite alignment", on T:22427 01:33 yasi: if you zap a wand while hungry, you get the message "This wand feels like a stick of licorice" 01:35 and while reading a thin spellbook "This book feels like a cracker" 01:48 [hdf-us] [fh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 35799 points, T:5098, killed by a white unicorn 01:48 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 01:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 01:50 Personal best in FIQ...number 890 on the score list and I am doing the macarena in my chair. 01:50 -!- ais523 has quit [Client Quit] 01:50 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 01:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 01:50 -!- zhangoke has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 01:52 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:00 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 02:02 -!- Heliokopis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31366 02:18 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:22 -!- Menchers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:40 interesting possible bug in vanilla on nao atm, unpaid book on entrance square of shop 02:48 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:49 nethack 3.6? 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 256 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32503 02:51 yeah 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32565 02:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) averted death, on T:58054 02:55 that must be one hell of an edge case then 02:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 177 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32676 02:59 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 327844 points, T:32757, killed by a yellow dragon, while unconscious from rotten food 03:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 03:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1238 points, T:2017, killed by a rock piercer, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:22 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:22 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 03:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1317 points, T:1777, killed by a wand 03:31 -!- moony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:31 -!- jdenman has joined #hardfought 03:31 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:32 -!- jannis has joined #hardfought 03:34 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:34 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 197 points, T:891, killed by a giant rat 03:39 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 03:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1081 03:44 -!- jdenman has left #hardfought 03:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 791 points, T:1410, killed by a coyote 03:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 194 points, T:663, killed by a jackal, while sleeping 03:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 04:10 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:10 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 04:10 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #hardfought 04:11 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Client Quit] 04:12 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1863 04:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 976 points, T:1885, killed by a giant bat 04:39 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 04:39 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:42 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:42 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 04:50 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 04:51 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:51 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 05:02 -!- zhangoke has quit [Quit: zhangoke] 05:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 05:30 -!- aioe has joined #hardfought 05:30 -!- aoei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:37 [hdf-eu] [slshm] Cookiedough (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 1346 points, T:2982, killed by a scroll of earth 05:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8993 05:49 !tell AntiGulp the vorpal jabberwocks in splicehack are boring. do something with them :-p 05:49 I'm on it, bhaak. 05:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:9151 05:53 -!- j6p has joined #hardfought 06:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:104605 06:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:40154 06:22 [hdf-eu] [slshm] Cookiedough (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 601 points, T:1389, killed by a werejackal, while helpless 06:22 -!- aioe is now known as aoei 06:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:40215 06:37 !who 06:37 K2: [hdf-us] Alasnuyo [dnh] | [hdf-eu] engelson [dyn] Cookiedough [slshm] Vis [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 06:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:106125 06:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2937 06:56 -!- engelson has joined #hardfought 07:02 https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Forum:Homosexual_Foocubi%3F&t=20200323205449 heh I found a cool discussion on sexuality of nh chars and foocubi 07:03 I assume Phol ende wodan is aosdict 07:04 oh right it also says so elsewhere on the wiki 07:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4333 points, T:3770, killed by a fire ant 07:06 wodant you know it, I think you're right 07:06 hi amateurhour 07:06 how goes worky work 07:06 do you have the monday blues 07:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 473 points, T:648, killed by a boulder 07:08 so far less stressful than last week but it's only partway through monday 07:12 fair nuff 07:12 im trying to quit the cigs today 07:13 aoei: My old cow-orker Charlotte was great at that. We only worked together three years and she must have quit a dozen times. 07:13 Pinkbeast, I've done it a bunch myself :D 07:13 duration of abstinence varies 07:13 I managed nearly a full year once 07:14 my face always feels weird the first day or so 07:14 a tightness of the cheeks 07:14 it's odd 07:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 760 points, T:1038, killed by a coyote 07:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 07:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 07:16 I never started so I'll have to take your word for it 07:17 fair enough Pinkbeast 07:18 better not to start in the first place :P 07:18 I switched to vaping and nicotine gum 07:18 It took my mother's mother six months to die of lung cancer which was unfortunate for her but definitely put me off the idea 07:19 less unhealthy but doesn't solve the general addiction to nicotine problem amateurhour 07:19 I am fully aware, but my lungs are much better from it at least 07:19 * amateurhour is asthmatic 07:19 well that's good 07:22 let's see how I do anyway. first day is often a bit of a crapshoot but if I don't smoke today there's a good chance I'll get through the acute phase 07:22 after that point it's all down to psychological craving triggers really 07:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10342 07:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:107151 07:41 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 07:41 <@bubbles> I don't think a foobus cares about the character's orientation? The entire point is the encounter is non-consensual (versus saving roll) 07:42 <@bubbles> It's the foobus who is initiating not the character 07:42 it's such a quagmire of a topic that people can get offended by so ima just stay out of it lol 07:43 heh yeah that's an interesting point bubbles 07:43 <@bubbles> The entire concept of the foobus is offensive I think (not to me personally, but in general) 07:43 heh, in slex the foocubus doesn't care about the player's orientation (which, yes, the player does get to pick in slex too) 07:43 can't pick ace though 07:44 but if someone is offended by *that* part of slex I don't want to know how offensive they'll find all the other stuff in it :D 07:44 I heard rumours about fun things in slex 07:44 you should try slex 07:44 but only after adding a quest/role difficulty chart to the scoreboard :^) 07:45 this nagging brought to u by teamwhinge 07:45 but if the foocubus doens't care about your orientation in slex, why do you pick an orientation in the first place? 07:45 amateurhour: playtest the various roles and make the chart! :D 07:45 aoei: it affects the chances of good/bad outcomes 07:45 oh Amy I'm referring to a feature request I made for the scoreboard 07:45 where it uses xlogfiles to determine quest difficulty and role difficulty 07:45 LarienTelrunya, ahhhh 07:45 <@bubbles> I think there was some forgeotten realms lore that foobii were shapeshifters so could appear as either sex to their victim anyway 🤔 07:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) became the Champion of Camaxtli!, on T:107308 07:45 like the (very outdated) tables on the wiki 07:46 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Role_difficulty#Role_difficulty_statistics 07:46 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Quest#Quest_difficulty_statistics 07:46 would be really cool to see those (a) for variants, (b) up to date 07:47 the data would be rather meaningless for slex as only a handful of people have ever ascended lul 07:48 unfortunate 07:48 amateurhour, please ascend slex a few more times to improve the staticstacs 07:48 mate I can't even get to gehennom without banishment 07:48 what's banishment? 07:49 also I thought you were secretly Tariru c: 07:49 @bubbles well since I've already weighed in on this, a foocubus's power is being supernaturally attractive and good at seduction, not mind controlling or dominating the victim to get what they want. it's easy to model it as no matter how attractive they are, if the hero isn't interested, they're not interested 07:49 aoei: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Banishment - SLEX is so harsh, it kicks you into a branch in _another roguelike_ 07:49 lol Pinkbeast you and your sigmund game! :D 07:50 aosdict: One has to wonder how many people are genuinely at the very end of the Kinsey Scale when faced with "supernatural" attractiveness etc, although that interpretation is in rather better taste. 07:51 yeah. amateurhour is right. it is a total quagmire 07:51 also not even finished reading the wiki talk page on it lol 07:51 * amateurhour slides over 1 zorkmid 07:51 Amy how are you feeling about writing more detail for each role/race now? 07:51 on the wiki 07:51 :P 07:51 you mean on the general slex role/race pages? 07:51 she told me she added stuff to the wiki just the other day 07:52 yeah, and traps 07:52 oh really 07:52 yeah like... Saturday I think? 07:52 Amy did you add stuff on Saturday 07:52 it's my lunchbreak soon, I'll maybe read through then 07:52 yeah I added the newest races to the races page, and a bunch of traps (sadly not all due to time constraints) 07:52 -!- engelson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:53 LarienTelrunya, are there any of slex's fun items described on the wiki? 07:53 or do I have to play the game to find them 07:53 a few of them are on the objects page 07:53 neat 07:53 at least for items and monsters you can farlook them for full explanations 07:53 the so-called pokedex is really good 07:53 also neat 07:53 aoei: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Slash%27EM_Extended#Getting_started - not sure if you're aware of that, but it's a good place to get started 07:53 LarienTelrunya, I have never read anything about your game on the wiki ever 07:54 so thank you for pointing me to where to get started :D 07:54 <3 07:54 but the traps/roles/races pages and explanation of dungeon branches can't be pokedex'd of course 07:54 the monster page will forever be outdated because when we tried to add all the monsters, the wiki stopped working :P 07:54 oh my 07:55 Do interval bisection to find the monster that's so dangerous it's even dangerous outside the game 07:56 lol the second line of getting started reads like NH won't be comfortable unless you *do* enable numperpad 07:57 Heresy! (Also, do people _really_ try SLEX without having already figured out if they want vi keys or are wrong?) 07:58 well I just got sick of watching new players on the server struggle for 15 minutes, failing to enable the number pad, and eventually quitting 07:58 D: 07:58 okay fair 07:58 all those could have become valuable slex players if they had only overcome that stupid hurdle... 07:58 OK, people do really try SLEX without having figured that out; I sit corrected. 07:58 (Mibbe the game should tell you this at start time if you don't turn it off? Maybe it does.) 07:59 if you need to read the documentation in order to avoid getting frustrated around a core setting and quitting, something's wrong 07:59 that's also why, when you try to input an invalid command during the first 50 turns, the game will up to 5 times tell you how to enable the number pad: to ensure that those players will NOT quit, but instead figure out how to turn numpad on 07:59 * aoei wonders how valuable slex players are to Amy 07:59 aosdict, yeah you have a point there 07:59 but the other thing just mentioned addresses aosdict's point just about well enough I would imagine 08:00 yeah the problem exists in vanilla too, you have to imagine being a complete noob at the game who just wants to play, logs in to the server, "huh I cannot move". do you REALLY expect them to magically guess they need to hit Shift-O, navigate 4 pages to the number_pad option, set that to 2, and confirm with space (NOT ESC because that discards all 08:00 the options changes)? 08:00 yes it is dumb 08:00 and vanilla is also terrible 08:00 unless you have in-depth knowledge about how the options work (before even having played a single run), you will not figure that out on your own 08:00 aosdict, I like your general design principles on the wiki btw 08:01 aosdict, you seem to not be totally clueless about making UX nice for people 08:01 -!- zhangoke has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1100 points, T:1055, killed by a little dart 08:03 I think AceHack/NH4 tried to execute what you call the "interhack principle" too 08:03 but I hate their interface with a passion 08:03 xnh is much nicer c: 08:04 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 08:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11610 08:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 394 points, T:1708, killed by a little dog 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 28 points, T:87, killed by a water demon 08:12 <@bubbles> Foobi literally charm monster that's their go to spell (in dnd world at least) 08:14 <@bubbles> I'm not saying they should in nh. If they were removed entirely I don't think the game would be any better or any worse 08:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 453 points, T:1030, killed by a wand 08:16 advocating removals of monsters. isn't it bad enough already that some variants remove lemures and zruties for no reason other than to be able to say "neener-neener Amy, I removed a fully functional monster just to spite you!"? 08:16 * Pinkbeast blinks 08:17 oh I do know that the sigmund game has a "REMOVE! REMOVE! REMOVE!" design philosophy; one of the reasons why I don't play it 08:17 wait why would they remove lemures and zruties to spite you in particular Amy? 08:17 One of the reasons we're a variant (and why Gooncrawl is ;-) 08:18 aoei: that's the special relationship between jonadab and me that only the two of us fully understand :D 08:18 ohhhh okay 08:18 I see 08:19 I'll leave that to the two of you then c: 08:19 * aoei bundles Amy 08:19 hahaha *fleece bundle* ♥! 08:19 ♥♥♥ 08:19 <3 08:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 405 points, T:1189, killed by a kitten 08:28 what is 'the sigmund game'? 08:29 a rougelike where Sigmund is a notorious boss 08:29 DCSS 08:29 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:1889 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1926 08:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1741 points, T:2014, killed by an invisible soldier ant 08:42 but rougelike sounds more sexy (or slexy to Amy perhaps) 08:42 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 08:42 it's a bot that responds to that particular typo of roguelike 08:42 heh, it's a bot that was programmed to just always repeat that message whenever one spells it r-o-u-g-e-like 08:42 oh haha 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1225 points, T:2731, killed by a snake, while praying 08:43 i didnt realise it was a bot lol 08:43 rougelike rougelike rougelike 08:43 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 08:43 not sure whether we can get rid of it 08:43 yeah when I encountered it the first time, I didn't realize it either; wrote an explanation of why I spelled it that way and it just repeated the message 08:43 lololol 08:43 LarienTelrunya, XD 08:44 and I thought, "huh what kind of weirdo is that, can't he read? I just explained it to him..." 08:44 Dearest Eternal Guardian, I am writing this essay to correct you. Yours fleecingly, LarienTelrunya 08:44 slexy justice warriors play rougelikes 08:44 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 08:45 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 08:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 08:45 rebrand slex as rougelike 08:45 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:12455 08:45 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 08:45 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 08:45 grumble grumble gmorning 08:45 AntiGulp: Message from bhaak at 2020-08-24 05:49 EDT: the vorpal jabberwocks in splicehack are boring. do something with them :-p 08:45 rebrand Eternal Guardian as LipstickRougeMascaraBot 08:45 hey AntiGulp 08:45 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:45 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 08:45 LarienTelrunya, XD 08:45 grumble grumble afternoon AntiGulp 08:46 huh what is there to grumble about? smile! :) 08:46 feeling that monday morning blues? 08:46 !tell bhaak I’m on 4 hours of sleep. As such, this request will be granted in a very player-unfriendly way :^) 08:46 No worries, AntiGulp, I've got this! 08:46 mornin' 08:46 Hi all 08:46 hi hi 08:47 * aoei hands AntiGulp a very strong coffee 08:47 !coffee 08:47 * Beholder delivers nabru a cup of espresso, prayed over by the late Pinobot at 255 Kelvin. 08:47 This coffee is cold! You gaga and vomit. 08:47 *gag 08:47 !coffee 08:47 * Beholder throws AntiGulp a cup of cafe latte, replicated by the late Pinobot at 51 degrees Celsius. 08:48 you need to listen to this song to brighten up your mondays! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwRQJMeI0m4 :D 08:48 255K is not very warm 08:48 bhaak: Message from AntiGulp at 2020-08-24 08:46 EDT: I’m on 4 hours of sleep. As such, this request will be granted in a very player-unfriendly way :^) 08:48 AntiGulp, make it 100% chance they decapitate you if they hit successfully? 08:49 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 08:49 LarienTelrunya: This is a bop 08:49 what means bop? 08:49 it's a fun song i think 08:49 (This is a good song) 08:49 :) 08:49 ah 08:49 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:49 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 08:50 sadly my laptop speakers are shit and my headphones are broken on one side ;_; 08:50 heh, whenever someone says "bop" I always think bird of prey, which incidentally the beautiful Christina also made a song about! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtAs6tEvTAw :D 08:50 anyway I'll be mostly afk now because I need to prepare a meal and it needs to be done in time since I still got another tour later today 08:51 oki cya Amy :) 08:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Great Cthulhu, on T:107880 08:56 \o/ 08:56 WOO! 08:56 winning 08:56 he has some nasty madnesses, better keep that sanity up 08:56 also he'll resurrect so watch out 08:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1088 points, T:4814, killed by a housecat 08:57 Sanity is still ok, was blindfolded the entire time. 08:57 oh nice 08:57 not sure on what timescale they'll resurrect 08:57 Beast's Embrace + Rod of the Ram = perma-stunlock 08:58 <{Demo}2> beast's embrace? 09:01 Beast's Embrace glyph. I got it off that one werewolf on the same level as the first alhoon. 09:01 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 09:01 how did that help? I don't really know how it works lol 09:01 -!- zhangoke has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01 ^ latest devteam updates and bits and stuff 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1199 09:01 noice one K2 09:01 At low insight, they seem to give me more hits per turn. 09:01 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 09:01 us and au were completed a few hours ago, had to wait for ppl to stop playing 370-hdf on eu 09:02 If I didn't have that, it would literally take me as many turns as Cthulhu has hitpoints to kill them. 09:02 Correction; Great Cthulhu. 09:03 the description of the bestial claw is confusing to me 09:04 And they're up again as soon as I touch the corpse. Yeah, I'm out of here. 09:04 don't you have to wield the claw to get benefits from the beast's embrace? 09:05 I'm not sure though. I started getting multi-hits after getting brain-sucked by some star-spawns, which lowered my insight. 09:06 I've read somewhere that the beast's embrace glyph is most effective at low insight. 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1745 09:07 I'm just glad it didn't literally take 800 turns to kill them, since I was only doing scratch damage. 09:12 wow damn 09:13 I got lucky; found Rod of the Ram in the Archeologist quest. 09:13 As soon as I got my hands on it I knew it would be the key. 09:14 Once the Quest is done, I immediately branchport back to the Lost Cities to test it out. 09:15 It worked like a charm. 09:16 While Great Cthulhu is too big to be actually knocked back, they still got stunned and had their movement points reduced. That let me just whale on 'em for ages. 09:17 nice 09:17 <{Demo}2> why were u fighting him? 09:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:85429 09:17 Because they're there. 09:17 he woke up from an earlier explosion and was near the key iirc? 09:17 oh 09:18 <{Demo}2> he does a lot of damage in a hit and is very very dangerous 09:18 <{Demo}2> and there isn't any benefit to fighting him and he is very avoidable 09:18 Well, it turns out they didn't wake from the earlier explosion at all; too far away from the blast. 09:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:1477 09:19 there's the +10% irl ego bonus from doing it 09:19 aren't the warm fuzzies worth dying for?! 09:19 My initial plan was to get crowned, use Amhimitl to slowly plink away at them from a distance. But that got really tedious. 09:20 And yes, the ego bonus is very nice. 09:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed the Nightmare, on T:85794 09:23 And totally worth dying for. 09:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:85807 09:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:85890 09:25 <{Demo}2> the worst thing is, when you kill him, he doesn't even stay down :( 09:26 Yeah, they've got pretty much the same resurrective immortality deal that the Riders have. 09:26 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:86111 09:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1851 points, T:3020, killed by a gnome 09:26 -!- zhangoke has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2936 points, T:2446, killed by a horse 09:28 Now, my next project is to gather enough cash to get that Kuker to sanctify the Amhimitl. 09:28 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:86228 09:28 May actually need to bind Berith to do so. 09:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 184 points, T:535, killed by a small mimic 09:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed Garland, on T:86394 09:30 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 09:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) destroyed Chaos, on T:86420 09:35 <@bubbles> GC reduces your insight 09:35 <@bubbles> so in many ways reduces your sanity loss 09:35 <@bubbles> he is bro 09:35 <@bubbles> I don't think he gives any madness at non-point-blank either 09:36 <@bubbles> so as long as you have your spellbooks just look at him from 2 tiles away 09:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1546 09:37 <@bubbles> Alasnuyo I have a PR for dnh to make amhimitl much less tedious 09:37 <@bubbles> It basically speeds up all animations (or removes the delay entirely) 09:39 <@bubbles> but we need to wait for el chris-o to emerge from his hibernation 09:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 741 points, T:1911, killed by a giant spider 09:44 -!- zhangoke1 has joined #hardfought 09:45 Alasnuyo it seems your connection has been more stable lately 09:45 you make any changes to your home network? 09:46 dnethack has animations??? what are they doing in the game and why can't they be turned off :P that's like having to play vanilla's plane of fire without being able to set !sparkle 09:46 <@bubbles> vanilla has animations amy 09:46 <@bubbles> multishot some daggers 09:47 <@bubbles> anywhere it cals delay_output 09:47 well yeah but those are pretty fast and IIRC can also be turned off by some obscure option 09:47 forgot the name of that option 09:47 <@bubbles> nothing turns them off altogether 09:47 <@bubbles> dnh has an artifact that launches spears with no max distance 09:47 <@bubbles> so if you fire it across the screen and it multishots 09:48 <@bubbles> you have to wait for it to go ping ......... pong ......... ping ......... pong ......... ping ......... pong ......... 09:48 lol 09:48 isn't there a timed_delay option or some such that turns off such animations altogether? 09:48 <@bubbles> not in dnh, maybe added in 3.6/7? I have a PR to add that option to 09:48 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:48 -!- zhangoke1 is now known as zhangoke 09:48 <@bubbles> you can set it to normal/fast/instant 09:48 <@bubbles> (same as runmode) 09:49 sparkle can be turned off at least 09:49 i hate sparkle 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vis' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:1574 09:49 which is weird because sparkly things are great 09:49 but not when I'm trying to play nethack and the connection is already slow 09:49 <@bubbles> slex doesnt have an option to turn it off I believe 09:49 <@bubbles> (checking now) 09:50 for real? 09:50 i swear that's been in vanilla since forever 09:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 50 points, T:265, killed by a jackal 09:50 but idk when SLASH'EM forked 09:50 <@bubbles> oh sparkle sure 09:51 <@bubbles> was talking about tweaking delay_output 09:51 ohhh right ok 09:51 nevermoind then 09:52 <@bubbles> amy: https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/pull/1137/files if you want to steal it etc 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1586 points, T:2031, killed by a Woodland-elf 09:53 heh, I'm pretty sure slex has something of that sort. we've accidentally compiled the animations out of a slex build on esm once 09:53 hmmm aoei sleepy 09:53 after lunch nap, brb! 09:54 <@K2> Weirdly enough, no. There's just no glitches these past two days. 09:54 <@bubbles> amy what's the option called? 09:54 <@bubbles> K2 in slex on hardfought did you fix yeoman calm steed? 09:57 no, any slex fixes would be amy 09:57 i dont code slex 09:59 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) was given the Black Arrow, on T:25417 09:59 Hmm what do I do with this thing? 09:59 <@bubbles> errr sorry k2 I meant slashem 09:59 <@bubbles> my bad 09:59 <@K2> But even if there is, I just wait for a few minutes once I logged into hardfought again after a sudden disconnection to before loading my game session again. I find that these glitches in the network seems to be clustered in closely together in a short time period. Much safer to just wait it out. 10:00 <@bubbles> Tangles shoot it from a bow it does like 100d4 damage or something 10:00 <@bubbles> so it is pretty good to keep around as a get-out-of-most-jail-free card 10:00 <@bubbles> can't mulch 10:00 100d4 jesus 10:00 <@bubbles> oh maybe better than 100d4 10:00 <@bubbles> errr 10:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:00 <@bubbles> 4x108 according to the wiki 10:00 that's some crazy damage 10:01 <@bubbles> it's an arrow though 10:01 <@bubbles> so you can only shoot it once before you have to pick it up 10:01 well duh :P 10:01 <@bubbles> and it won't one shot most devil/demon lords 10:01 4x108 or 4d108 tho? 10:01 <@bubbles> wiki says 4x 10:01 odd 10:02 @bubbles I think so 10:02 Unless you have Epoch's Curve. 10:02 <@bubbles> not on server yet though 10:02 <@bubbles> and then it is 5 or d5 turns for it to come back? 10:02 Oh I think getting that unrestricted bow too. 10:02 @bubbles hell if I remembered the name! 10:02 <@bubbles> tangles defo worth keeping around 10:03 <@bubbles> and worst comes to the worst you can piss your god off and trade it for a thought 10:03 4x108 is 432 damage 10:03 why not just write that 10:03 Can monsters pick it up and shoot it back at you? That could be scary. 10:03 I'm assuming it's a mistake or a mechanic I'm unaware of 10:03 <@bubbles> lol tangles not sure but would be funny 10:03 <@bubbles> aoei it is the same as any artifact with xN damage 10:04 isn't the base damage at least a roll though? 10:04 then it should be d4 x108 10:04 idk seems weird 10:04 where's that wiki page? 10:04 <@bubbles> it's an arrow so d8 (or whatever the base damage is) + 108 x4 I would guess 10:04 <@bubbles> let me check the code 10:04 <@bubbles> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/DNetHack_artifacts 10:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:05 ohhhh 10:05 -!- zhangoke has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 yeah nah 10:06 I read that as, it quadruples the damage from the roll 10:06 then adds the 108 10:06 not +108 then times four 10:06 which would be insane 10:06 because what's actually written there is "4x+108" 10:07 <@bubbles> yeah you are right 10:07 <@bubbles> fix the wiki! 10:07 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 10:07 the wiki is also write 10:07