00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1552 points, T:1938, killed by a dingo 00:04 [hdf-us] [4k] charlotte (charles) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 17328 points, T:14104, killed by a warhorse 00:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) killed Mother Hydra, on T:30984 00:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) killed Father Dagon, on T:30995 00:17 !who 00:17 K2: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] plaxcaster [nh370] Gaelan [nh370] oh6 [nh370] dvorkian [nh370] MaxLunar [slex] Thidwick [un] Heliokopis [dnh] carlarc [fh] mtf [fh] charles [4k] | [hdf-eu] vimla [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1828 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1923 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) stole 12 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Lucrezia's general store, on T:2271 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2107 points, T:2273, killed by a watch captain 00:24 mtf, your dog is a cannibal! 00:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) was given Ramiel, on T:31871 00:47 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 41128 points, T:7480, killed by a magic missile 00:47 <@mtf> I just dipped my longsword in every fountain in nethack 00:47 <@mtf> only to remember 00:47 <@mtf> I was AN 00:47 <@mtf> N* 00:47 <@mtf> ... fml 00:47 <@riker> hm. nice. 00:47 <@riker> !lastgame mtf 00:47 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mtf/fiqhack/dumplog/2020-08-20%2004%3A47%3A14%2C%20MTF-Val-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20died.txt 00:48 <@mtf> also one of the fountains 00:48 <@mtf> summoned yeenoghu 00:48 <@Sig> FIQhack sounds dangerous, lol 00:48 <@mtf> it can be 00:48 <@mtf> but it's more dangerous when your dumb lol 00:48 <@riker> that's just a normal nethack thing i think 00:48 <@riker> also why is literally everything you own blanked 00:49 <@riker> (yeen in fountains sounds like a gating thing) 00:49 <@Sig> Is it? I thought the worst you could get was a water djinni 00:49 <@Sig> Ah, I guess that’s possible 00:49 <@mtf> no, so... 00:49 <@mtf> one of the fountains in oracles place 00:49 <@mtf> filled the area with water 00:49 <@mtf> and I couldn't get past 00:49 <@riker> ahh. rip 00:49 <@mtf> and I didn't have a pick 00:49 <@mtf> so... swimming time lol 00:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) was given the Fluorite Octahedron, on T:32544 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1308 points, T:3271, killed by a bolt of cold 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 8171 points, T:6283, petrified by a cockatrice 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 345 points, T:1215, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 122 points, T:835, killed by a boiling potion 01:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33277 01:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) averted death, on T:33280 01:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) averted death, on T:33376 01:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) killed the invisible Fierna, on T:33395 01:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) killed the invisible Belial, on T:33398 01:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Con Inc Fem Law) killed Zuggtmoy, on T:34458 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:75625 01:41 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Con Hum Fem Cha), 74 points, T:272, killed by a jackal 01:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:59 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 432 points, T:1284, killed by a werejackal 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3403 02:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1294 points, T:3034, killed by a little dog 02:15 -!- maxlunar has joined #hardfought 02:18 -!- covi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 953 points, T:1041, killed by a giant spider 02:23 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:31 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:35 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6904 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6904 02:57 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:12 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 03:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:16058 03:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) wished for "cursed fixed tinning kit", on T:17231 03:40 -!- flgr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:43 -!- jannis has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 03:54 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 03:58 [hdf-us] [gh] Tommo (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4105 points, T:1568, killed by an exploding wand 04:02 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:02 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Werebane, on T:49222 04:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Changing host] 04:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:30 -!- flgr has quit [Changing host] 04:30 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 04:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed tiny bone pick axe", on T:18617 04:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3029 04:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3044 points, T:3186, killed by a giant spider 05:01 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1100 points, T:1625, killed by a crossbow bolt 05:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 gigantic silver long sword", on T:19520 05:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1351 points, T:1884, killed by a bolt of cold 05:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 802 points, T:1183, killed by a cave spider 05:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1513 points, T:1457, killed by a brown mold 05:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1805 05:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1448 points, T:2076, killed by a small mimic 06:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 230 points, T:870, killed by a goblin 06:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:21700 06:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 121 points, T:528, killed by a jackal 06:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4338 06:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2114 points, T:4630, killed by a wand 06:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2237 06:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1872 points, T:2310, killed by a gnome lord 06:49 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 06:49 sup sup 06:52 not much, you? not much, you? 06:53 fucking about with custom os images and google cloud platform 06:54 I have an FCOS one (that's not custom that one I downloaded from fedora) and I made my own arch linux image 06:54 and I am gonna make a gentoo vm also 06:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:23414 06:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:23430 06:55 i might use the arch vm to install the gentoo vm :D 06:56 amateurhour, are you just dying@work 06:57 yes I am 06:58 I'm too exhausted to think properly so dying is the right term 06:59 : ( 06:59 poor bb 06:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3067 07:00 GCP running in firefox is a crazy memory hog even with only one tab open wtf 07:00 it was using like 2 gig lol 07:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1672 points, T:3112, killed by a crossbow bolt 07:01 but once I have instances set up I can just ssh in and ignore all that 07:01 except for some occasional management tasks 07:02 amateurhour, do u cloud bro? 07:07 p much just aws 07:08 not used that 07:08 no idea what's better and they're both about as evil i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 07:12 google gave me free money to use their service with for a while 07:13 but i don't want to actually support them when it runs out 07:13 so i wanna research alternative platforms 07:17 <@ShivanHunter> lol there was a blessed scroll of charging in the room with the castle wand 07:17 @ShivanHunter: Message from K2 at 2020-08-17 07:18 EDT: i'll have a look 07:17 @ShivanHunter: Message from K2 at 2020-08-17 07:21 EDT: copied your save 07:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:24329 07:20 <@ShivanHunter> fucking DAMMIT 07:21 <@ShivanHunter> I officially have an IQ of 3 07:21 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1344694 points, T:59188, crushed to death by a closing drawbridge 07:21 <@ShivanHunter> lmao 07:22 :S 07:22 aww 07:24 <@ShivanHunter> it was a meh game anyway. Conduct games aren't as seat-of-your-pants in evil as vanilla since the player monsters kit you out with all their +5 stuff 07:24 lol noice 07:24 thought that game was meant to be evil 07:25 K2: you got some work to do 07:25 <@ShivanHunter> heh 07:25 mornin' 07:25 hello nabru 07:25 <@ShivanHunter> it definitely makes the endgame fun, and the player monster balance isn't wrong per se, but it has the consequences it has 07:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 939 points, T:1549, killed by an ogre 07:29 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Alt Bre Mal Cha), 132 points, T:190, killed by bleedout 07:29 yea fair play 07:31 <@ShivanHunter> does nethack 1.3d (on hdf) not have the number_pad option? 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh13d] ShivanHunter (Wiz Mal), 50 points, T:35, leprechaun 07:33 @ShivanHunter no, 1.3d didn't have that yet 07:33 <@ShivanHunter> ah 07:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) wished for "communion glyph", on T:27991 07:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1288 07:39 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:53 @ShivanHunter if you use putty, there's a specific nethack option you can enable 07:53 gives you numpad for 1.3 07:53 <@ShivanHunter> ohh I forgot about that 07:54 havent read all the backscroll yet, but yeah I think player monsters might be a bit much resource wise 07:54 i've been thinking about this on/off for over a year 07:54 just been low priority 07:55 (evilhack) 07:55 unsanctioned fun 07:55 must kill it 07:55 not you too 07:55 <@ShivanHunter> yeah it's a conundrum. You want them to have good stuff like access to reflection, but then the player gets it 07:55 well theres nothing wrong with that 07:55 its just it might be too much 07:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:28690 07:56 <@ShivanHunter> an idea might be to give them stuff that is good but not ideal for a player's ascension kit - highly-enchanted armor that isn't DSM, maybe 07:56 to give it more of a nethack-y feel, some of the objects in their kit should be more random 07:56 yeah exactly 07:56 player monsters probably should not have ascension kit worthy gear at least until deep in gehennom 07:57 the way it goes now, you wont see asc level gear until they spawn as level 20 or higher (its based on your level) 07:57 woah putty has special options for nethack? 07:57 awesome 08:00 brb 08:02 [hdf-us] [nh13d] ShivanHunter (Wiz Mal), 50 points, T:17, imp 08:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Cleaver, on T:49546 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh13d] ShivanHunter (Wiz Mal), 50 points, T:157, hobgoblin 08:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 71 points, T:538, killed by a sewer rat 08:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) was given the Gauntlets of Spell Power, on T:29115 08:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:29369 08:11 [hdf-us] [nh13d] ShivanHunter (Fig Mal), 747 points, T:1038, giant ant 08:12 K2 By the time I meet high level NPC's I have my own ascension gear anyway (but I don't do conducts) 08:14 For the times I am lower level: most of the NPC's don't have much interesting gear, but occasionally they have something that my character really needs to make progress. 08:16 I fear that if you nerf that too much you could upset the game balance. 08:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1421 points, T:1403, killed by a hobbit 08:17 fair 08:17 i was mostly kidding when I told K2 to nerf that 08:17 I also don't even play evilhack lol 08:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 water flowers", on T:29746 08:18 Everyone should play evilhack :-) 08:19 mobileuser there's a separate array for player monster gear at lower levels, i wouldnt touch that 08:20 ah ok 08:23 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/makemon.c#L162 08:23 ^ start there and scroll down you'll see what I mean 08:24 also https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/makemon.c#L449 08:25 oof there's some !rn2(2) there 08:26 is that bad? 08:27 well its not broken 08:27 but the ! isnt necessary 08:27 ah ok 08:27 imo doing !rn2(2) is better because it's consistent with the others... 08:27 lol 08:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 830 points, T:2684, killed by a coyote 08:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 33 points, T:97, killed by a bear trap 08:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 25 points, T:177, killed by a kobold 08:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4 points, T:28, killed by a falling rock 08:34 -!- asdfasdf has joined #hardfought 08:36 asdfasdf: he wants the amulet 08:36 ahhhh letting him do the dirty work for ya 08:37 no choice really, when he shows up in the sanctum that's what he does 08:37 i wonder who will win 08:39 don't care, they're both assholes 08:39 and both dead now 08:39 heh 08:39 ho hothraxxa 08:39 hi even 08:39 hi ho 08:40 thundercats, hooooo 08:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:31195 08:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31300 08:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:1537 08:47 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:31636 08:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1799 points, T:3076, killed by a killer bee 08:58 asdfasdf: that's the plan 08:58 i shall be watching ;) be careful about being burdened 09:04 being burdened is not really a problem, but thanks for the advice. i've ascended burdened before, although i usually unload before entering the planes 09:04 just so you know, all the dipping i'm doing is not nedessary, i'm just compulsive 09:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed the garnet rod", on T:32287 09:08 dont worry, i do a lot of dipping too. might as well have all of the holy water you can afford to carry 09:08 can never be too prepared 09:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Graz'zt, on T:32783 09:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1564 points, T:2833, killed by a gnome mummy 09:17 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 95 points, T:488, killed by a jackal 09:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 264 points, T:1034, killed by a goblin 09:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Naome, on T:33080 09:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the invisible Fierna, on T:33080 09:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the invisible Belial, on T:33080 09:21 Surely I can't miss the newt 14 times in a row.... 09:21 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 299 points, T:550, killed by a newt 09:21 does dogs eat other dogs? 09:21 <@ShivanHunter> https://alt.org/nethack/dudley/?414 09:21 !lastgame 09:21 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/ShivanHunter/nh13d/dumplog/1597925077.nh13d.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vis/nethack/dumplog/1597929416.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1597929372.dnh.txt 09:21 in real life I mean 09:22 maybe I should make pets avoid eating their own mlet with a couple of exceptions 09:22 oh it was only 12 times. that's ok then. 09:22 <{Demo}2> animals eat animals 09:23 <{Demo}2> some dogs would DEFINITELY munch on a dead dog 09:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:33339 09:23 <{Demo}2> but some dogs eat their own shit 09:23 <{Demo}2> and would munch on literally anything 09:23 thanks @shivanhunter! lol 09:23 <@ShivanHunter> :P 09:24 I've heard horror stories about dogs vomiting and then eating the result... 09:24 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:39, killed by a fox 09:24 if u die and u have a pet cat nearby the cat should eat ur eyeballs 09:24 FIQ: That's just part of their digestive process. 09:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the creature in the ice, on T:33420 09:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the invisible Leviathan, on T:33422 09:25 Dogs are awesome, but gross. 09:25 @Sig fountains cannot summon demon lords directly, but they can summon water demons who will gladly (rarely) gate in demon lords 09:26 this is a vanilla thing 09:26 !who 09:26 FIQ: [hdf-us] karibou [evil] rebatela [evil] telegarn [evil] hothraxxa [nh4] Alasnuyo [dnh] bagun [dnh] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] Vis [nh370] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:27 @microlance how do you kill leviathan in 2 turns? 09:27 Oh, you wished for garnet rod earlier. 09:27 that's probably it. 09:28 <@microlance> its the power of barbarian, i also run andro and a gigantic holy sizzled excal 09:28 <@microlance> the garnet rod is for dangerous things like demo or lamasthu 09:28 <@microlance> silver as well 09:29 My convict got squished by leviathan last night... I didn't really know what it was, and I was playing tired at 2am 09:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1798 points, T:1918, killed by a boulder 09:30 <@microlance> yeah i got owned once by him as well. tho i didnt diei just lost all my insight, and most maps. 09:30 Figured I would be ok, and could bug out if I lost my "oLS, but no, that is not a thing. 09:31 @d?leviathan 09:31 Leviathan (&) | Lvl: 74 | Diff: 38 | Spd: 9 | Res: cold poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 54 | Generates: unique | AC: -19 | Attacks: 9d1 claw physical, 9d1 claw physical, 1d9 engulf drain int, 1d9 breath sleep | Alignment: 15 | Flags: swims, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous 09:31 demon lord? 09:31 or quest nemesis 09:31 yeah it engulfs you and drains your intelligence until you die. 09:32 @d?lethe elemental 09:32 lethe elemental (E) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 15 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 66 | Generates: special | AC: -2 | Attacks: 1d9 engulf lethe-wet, 0d0 passive disenchant | Alignment: -10 | Flags: swims, amphibious, mindless, vegan 09:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:35 I got out a couple of times with digging, but was not together enough to try to ward it or otherwise get away. 09:36 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 102 points, T:100, killed by a water moccasin 09:36 Even one fountain-dip is too many. 09:43 fountains r dangerous 09:45 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:53 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:678 09:59 yeah but so are newts, foxes, and wearing a cursed striped shirt. 10:00 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 9 points, T:194, killed by a grid bug 10:00 and grid bugs. 10:02 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 23 points, T:100, killed by a grid bug 10:02 ffs 10:02 !setmintc 500 10:02 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Cha) killed the Beholder, on T:35021 10:02 Tangles: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for tangles set to 500 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:2480 10:03 and fucking kobolds on DL1 with fire horns. 10:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:5711 10:06 heh 10:06 \o/ 10:07 lucky 10:07 <{Demo}2> a dcomr 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:2622 10:08 oof, what happened nabru 10:09 <{Demo}2> can infidels convert altars? 10:09 which variant is that {demo}2 10:09 yes, including by same-race sacrifice (except on chaotic altars) 10:09 hm. seems to be a bug here 10:10 asdfasdf: got in a tight spot with a mummy 10:10 out of zaps in my wands 10:10 and had prayed recently so... 10:10 nh4, portal to astral. try to move, it says that lave seems rather dangerous. farlook and it says the portal is underwater but that's not what the screen shows 10:10 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 118 points, T:925, died of starvation 10:12 if anybody want to watch, hothraxxa is ascending soon (hopefully) 10:13 <{Demo}2> "You mentally assault the floating eye! The floating eye withers in anguish! You mentally attack it! It has no mind, and is immune to your mental attack." ?????? 10:13 <{Demo}2> it is literally telepathic 10:13 LMAO thats funny 10:13 maybe you mentally attacked something other than the eye? 10:14 heh 10:14 hothraxxa why/how'd you kill the pet worms? 10:14 OH WAIT are you teleporting them? 10:14 that's purple rain 10:14 mobileuser your mental assault hit another monster 10:14 classic purple rain 10:14 yeah mobileuser :^) 10:14 err {Demo}2 10:15 summon purple worms via reverse genocide, tame them, break wand of tele 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3315 10:15 OH i've never heard of that strat! didnt know breaking wands of teleportation could do that on astral 10:15 wait is the message {Demo}2 pasted from evilhack 10:15 yes aosdict 10:15 haha you can play this game for years and still find new strats 10:16 <{Demo}2> if i mindblasted while polyd into a mind flayer couldnt i hit a floating eye? 10:16 asdfasdf: in evilhack K2 slightly nerfed it so some players adapted and did the strategy with black dragons instead 10:16 howd it get nerfed? 10:16 hopefully vanilla won't ever do the wand destruction patch thing (the patch that supposedly makes wands more useful... by making the wand of tele not work in the one situation where it matters lol) where it doesn't work in no-tele levels 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1135 points, T:1257, killed by a gas cloud 10:17 <{Demo}2> fucking hobbit asshole 10:18 asdfasdf: in evilhack, things in astral have =oSD so purple rain not as effective 10:18 asdfasdf in evilhack monsters can wear and use most rings, including ring of slow digestion. a significant number of the humanoid monsters on astral have those rings 10:18 oh wow lol, thats smart 10:18 aosdict: it seems that this weirdguy who spammed the wiki with content-less slex pages is a nasty piece of work... personally, I don't think it's a good idea to have an article for every single slex role in the main namespace, what do you think? maybe I can move some of them to my userspace instead? 10:19 'purple rain' is still a valid strategy, it just wont be a wholesale clearing of everything like before 10:19 rebatela: who uses purple rain on astral in evilhack? 10:19 i have 10:19 others have 10:19 answer: those who never though of black rain 10:19 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 175 points, T:603, killed by a fox 10:19 lol hothraxxa 10:19 although now its more black or silver rain 10:19 LarienTelrunya: Precedent from other variants is that variant-specific role pages can be in the main namespace, 10:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33876 10:20 i *invented* black rain 10:20 but slex may be a special circumstance since there are hundreds of roles 10:20 <{Demo}2> i invented astral splatting in evilhack :P 10:20 lol 10:20 true, i remember that 10:20 Yup, I shamelessly copied hothraxxa's myself 10:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQFMeyWVe3g 10:21 aosdict: yeah that's my concern, if there were a page for each of the 200+ roles it would be too much and selecting random page would eventually start giving slex-specific pages more often than not 10:21 whats astral splatting? 10:21 I mean, putting them NOT in the main namespace would mean making something new like [[SLASHEMExtended:foo_role]]. Not sure we want a new namespace either? 10:22 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Cha) killed Nightmare, on T:35725 10:22 also should note I hit the random page button 3 times just now and landed on https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Transvestite_quest 10:22 Haha actually got 'crunched in the head by an iron ball' that time. 10:22 (to splat = to die) On my first ascension I played it like vanilla and used ring of conflict. Hopeless, had to use helm of oppo to ascend. 10:23 Tangles :P 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 794 points, T:1602, killed by a gold golem 10:23 does purple rain go well in dnethack? 10:23 let me read up on mediawiki's random page docs a bit... 10:23 heh, yeah if we also have slex-specific quest pages it gets even worse, because then there's already 2x(amount of roles) slex-specific pages... 10:26 ok, confirmed that subpages will still appear from the random page button, so having them in a subpage wouldn't really solve this problem 10:26 well that sucks 10:27 Amy the way dnh does it is that the new pages are all under Chris' page 10:27 e.g. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Chris/dNetHack/Rule_Changes 10:27 and the top level dnethack page links to those 10:27 but actually that's not quite true as there are some top level dnh pages 10:27 amateurhour: that's not really a great convention in terms of wiki cleanliness 10:28 sure, they're not in the main namespace, but they arguably clutter the User namespace 10:28 I think it's good when the pages aren't finished yet 10:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Lamashtu, on T:34162 10:28 maybe major variants like dnh and slex just need their own wikis :P 10:28 yes remove all mention of slex from the wiki :^) 10:28 great idea thanks Amy 10:29 heh, the main slex page would probably remain and link to that wiki 10:29 I'd actually prefer the articles to have all the missing stuff added than for someone to spend the effort on a new wiki 10:29 I don't think slex needs to fork off into its own wiki 10:30 yeah; I did some work on the poison mage page at least, because it's a somewhat popular slex role so I felt it deserved some info 10:30 wtf... I get a nice soko level with a general store and then i find an altar and come back, and the shopkeeper is now an arch lich? 10:30 leaning towards a "SLASH'EM Extended" namespace being the best option 10:30 the thing that irks me the most from missing slex info is missing traps 10:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Daemon, on T:34272 10:31 rebatela, theres a general store in soko? 10:31 mediawiki doc on namespaces: "A namespace is a collection of pages which have content with a similar purpose, i.e. pages where the intended use is the same. Namespaces can be thought of as partitions of different types of information within the same wiki, and keep "real" content separate from user profiles, help pages, etc." 10:31 now slex content is "real" content, of course 10:31 followed at a close second by not enough detail on races/roles, a summary is kind of nice but 'starts with useful intrinsics' isn't particularly helpeful, which ones? 10:31 slex is just a dream 10:32 but the general idea is to not have it overwhelm the vanilla content 10:32 as I understand it 10:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:34393 10:33 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 104 points, T:871, killed by a jackal 10:33 asdfasdf: no. lol, sorry. I meant on the same level (below oracle) 10:33 ahh i see. those damnarch-Lich shopkeepers 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:6810 10:34 hothraxxa are you just using wishes to increase score now? 10:34 i'm not sure I think the arch lich killed the shopkeeper 10:34 now I have MR so i can go back i guess? I dunno. I'm pretty weak 10:34 nah, score is irrelevant. this is tradition 10:34 aosdict: yeah that's why I'm reluctant to create new slex role pages, but that warpguncody guy had to go ahead and create some... 10:34 ooo whats the story behind the tradition 10:35 well k2 used to always encourage ascenders to wish for carl, so i do 10:35 he never does though :( 10:35 it's much more fun when wishes are livelogged 10:36 "one rule for me and one rule for thee" 10:36 why arent the wishes being livelogged rn? 10:36 do you have turn count set high or something? 10:36 my wish showed up... 10:36 Your ascension didnt show either hoth 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 260542 points, T:52528, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-20%2014%3A36%3A58%2C%20hothraxxa-Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20ascended.txt 10:37 nvm haha 10:37 CONGRATS!! 10:37 no, nh4 doesn't do livelog 10:37 congrats! 10:37 oic 10:37 ty 10:37 how many ascensions do you have hoth? 10:38 LarienTelrunya: I thought you said you were not planning on adding slex pages anyway due to lack of time 10:38 depends on how you count. i think that's #100 on the scoreboard 10:38 gratz hothraxxa ! 10:38 <@mtf> gz hoth 😄 10:38 jesus christ how have you ascended so many times 10:38 <@mtf> tourist are fun 10:39 yeah that's why i did a tourist. needed a break from evilhack and grunt 10:39 I wonder who has the most public ascensions 10:39 asdfasdf: you play a lot 10:40 asdfasdf: try retiring 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3479 10:41 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 503 points, T:679, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 10:41 937 games on the scoreboard, but this one hasn't shown up yet 10:41 aosdict: hahaha 10:41 you just make fun of me becaue i'm old 10:42 I'm sorry. I'm not trying to make fun of anyone 10:42 i wish i didn't have to go back to that level, but all my stuff is in soko 10:42 yes you are. you're a meanie 10:44 aosdict: yeah, and I'm stll not planning it, but since the poison mage page is already there I felt like making sure that it at least doesn't look like total garbage 10:44 I always forget to wish for carl 10:45 asdf: if i didn't already have a BoH, I may have fallen for that ;) 10:46 so my ascension rate is 10.6% 10:46 that's not bad considering i play evilhack 10:47 The vampire bat turns into a mind flayer larva! (well, at least it's not an arch lich anymore) 10:48 I almost never have wishes left for carl :-( 10:48 not sure but i think since i started doing it, i have always had a wish left for carl 10:49 can't recall not anwyay 10:49 one thing you learn by playing a lot of evilhack is how to get by with few wishes and fewer markers 10:50 ^^ this 10:50 definitely made me better at vanilla in that way too 10:51 although, in evil you don't really need wishes for gear a lot of the time because of npc's... and you find lots of scrolls to not need markers as much 10:53 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 26 points, T:578, killed by a wand 10:55 you solve the scroll problem with polymorph, and evil has lots of poly wands 10:56 of course k2 will nerf that one of these days 10:56 nope 10:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:57 i'm going to tweak player monster gear but not poly wands or how things are poly'd 10:58 i find that the player monster gear only increases the difficulty of killing them. they seldom add anything to my kit 10:58 <@microlance> good guy rodney, bringing me the amulet without me even having to do the invocation 10:58 agreed 10:58 agreed with hothraxxa that is :-) 10:59 @microlance how?? 10:59 rodney is a bastard 10:59 <@microlance> i dont know, has only happened to me once before and then i had done the invocation adn was inside the place 10:59 waiting for k2 to pull a fiq and make rodney automatically cast double trouble when he shows up 10:59 and yes, i know fiq cut back on that 11:00 <@microlance> but he likes taking it from the elder priest then attacking you, dieing instantly as is his custom. 11:00 <@microlance> said to be fixed on devel vers. 11:01 hothraxxa: There's a reason I didn't mention polymorph! 11:01 but it's good to know nothing is changing 11:01 Yeh I've had him kill the elder priest (I think more times than not), but how did he get it without you doing the invocation? 11:01 heh. k2 isn't that oblivious 11:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed Baphomet, on T:35874 11:03 just partially oblivious 11:04 goddamn zombie just brought me back to basic in martial arts 11:04 Hmm so this level 1 orc con just got a runed candle death-drop from a newt... That might actually be a start. 11:04 i get cocky once i have a unihorn and i forgot they do that 11:05 cocky is what i call my first cockatrice corpse 11:05 the second one is rocky 11:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) was given the Lash of the Cold Waste, on T:1635 11:06 (rocky and cocky are the two pals of buddy wassisname) 11:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed Greased +3 Blue Dragon Scale Mail", on T:1638 11:06 oops. wasisname 11:07 <@microlance> its odd this invocation less amulet run. because its obvious the ascension run things havent started 11:07 <@microlance> ill se what happens on when i enter astral 11:09 what do you mean invocationless? 11:09 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 11:09 /mgs amateurhour he has a cheap plastic imitation 11:09 oops 11:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the Grue, on T:36318 11:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed axe of the dwarvish lords", on T:41490 11:10 <@microlance> probably not, the wizard came and attacked me on the floor with the square, bearing the amulet. 11:11 <@microlance> before i had done the invocation and entered the temple 11:11 <@microlance> area 11:11 try putting the amulet in a bag 11:11 ^^^ 11:12 i always try that. it's tradition 11:12 if it goes into the bag, it's fake 11:12 Joonaa, do you have any relation to Oona in dnh 11:13 <@microlance> NoOO, i got bamboozled, ah well i can get back fast enough. i was sure i had ided the cheap plastic ones 11:13 lol I'm glad you mentioned it 11:13 that wouldve been tragic if you tried going up with the imitation 11:15 Ah that explains it! lol 11:16 hothraxxa: oh he still does it right away 11:16 but it takes time to kick in 11:16 i knew you did something 11:17 it takes 2d6 turns to kick in 11:17 what takes 2d6 turns 11:17 double trouble 11:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:17 after Rodney casts double trouble in fiqhack, it takes 2d6 turns until a Rodney clone appears 11:18 (killing Rodney before this will prevent the clone from spawning) 11:18 microlance howd you get excalibur to have the sizzling property? or is that just inherent to it in dnh 11:18 since fiq has the philosophy that monster ai should be as close to the player as possible, the reasoning is that of course the first thing rodney would do is cast the most troublesome spell 11:19 thats a nice philosophy. neat change 11:19 that also means he should cast it as often as possible 11:19 he does 11:19 at least he used to 11:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:2508 11:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:37143 11:20 when i played fiqhack a lot, i was always fighting two rodneys on the ascension run 11:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2253 points, T:2590, killed by a giant bat 11:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed Father Dagon, on T:41768 11:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed Mother Hydra, on T:41785 11:21 yeah he does 11:21 as soon as you kill one of the Rodneys, the other will immediately double trouble again 11:21 this used to work just like vanilla -- no delay 11:22 so unless you could quickly kill both in one go, it'd be hard to get rid of them entirely 11:22 what is worse is that monsters know about turn undead's... other (punny) effect 11:22 they do in vanilla now too 11:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:37271 11:22 in one game, hothraxxa was fighting 3 Rodneys because one of the previously killed Rodneys left a corpse 11:23 so one of the Wizards zapped the turn undead spell on it 11:23 wow 11:23 rodneystorm 11:23 oh my 11:23 that was the point where I changed Rodney to have a delay on double trouble 11:23 because that was a bit harsh 11:24 is the way it works with two rodneys that they have separate timers for when they appear or are they on the same timer 11:24 there can only be 2 Rodneys at a time 11:24 any further ones would be a result of turn undead 11:24 Or stone to flesh, etc. 11:25 right 11:25 in early fiqhack, it had the AI improvements without any of the later nerfs 11:25 this could get out of hand very quickly in a lot of situations because wands of create monster is a really common monster item in vanilla 11:26 it's just that they hardly ever use it in vanilla since it's a "defensive" action 11:26 EPI: Rodney, and only Rodney, can cast Wish as a spell. 11:26 (and thus they only use it when they're almost dead) 11:26 back then the create monster storms on astral were outrageous 11:26 fortunately charm monster wasn't nerfed 11:27 charm monster has never been nerfed in fh 11:27 Fourk makes charm monster spell level, umm, 5 IIRC. 11:27 With no other nerf. 11:27 Because it was just way OP for spell level three. 11:28 :( 11:28 other fun stuff: your items blowing up from skilled wands without any way to protect them, monsters looting your stash, player monsters in bones being out for your blood without any chance to prepare (and they can *hurt*!) 11:28 nobody likes the hero 11:28 hothraxxa: Oh, come on, Fourk does lots of things that favor the hero. 11:28 it was not uncommon to see double or triple bones in early fiqhack 11:28 Early enlightenment, much higher chance of early eucalyptus, Sokoban prize rerolling, ... 11:29 because the earlier player monster deaths would quickly zap you with highlevel wands and skills 11:29 jonadab: i know. i'm one of the few people who i've seen say they like fourk 11:29 My goal with Fourk wasn't to make the game harder, or easier for that matter. 11:29 back then, player monsters didn't start out medidating (meaning you had to hit them to "wake them up") and had the maximum skills for their role 11:30 Any changes in overall difficulty are incidental effects resulting from other goals. 11:30 don't know if you changed this, but finding a statuary in gehennom was way over the top 11:30 so many spellbooks 11:30 nowdays monsters has a skill system like players so they retain the same skill levels as the late player had 11:30 hothraxxa: @me or @ jonadab ? 11:30 statuary? 11:30 jonadab 11:30 ah 11:30 I have a TODO item for rebalancing spellbook availability, but it is not required for moving 4.3.0.5 to save-stable status. 11:30 right 11:31 So it won't happen until that happens. 11:31 he should just do what fh does :P 11:31 I think that change ended up working out well 11:31 FIQ: I haven't ruled that out as a possibility. 11:32 (in fiqhack, 5% or 10%, I forgot which, of spells monsters generate with will also generate as a book in their inventory) 11:32 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:32 the problem with bountiful resources in gehennom for any variant is that by then they're seldom needed 11:32 so changing that won't really matter much 11:32 this, combined with the way fiqhack monsters is assigned spells, means that you end up seeing more highlevel spells the later in the game you are 11:32 hothraxxa: Long-term, I want you to still need things when you're in Gehennom. But that requires way more changes. 11:32 with early casters mostly giving you lowlevel books 11:33 jonadab: just remove wishes :) 11:33 and polypiling 11:34 then nobody will play your variant except in june 11:34 I don't want to altogether remove wishes, because they are an important differentiator for NetHack, and contribute significantly to headroom. 11:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:38505 11:34 see most people play *hack for fun. the less fun you can have, the less incentive to play 11:35 But pushing more of the wishes later into the game is a possibility. 11:35 aosdict did that 11:36 I'd kind of hate to altogether remove polypiling either, for similar reasons. But I might make it consume more resources somehow. 11:36 Maybe just ramp up the item loss rate. 11:36 Or make polymorph wands less common and give them fewer charges. 11:37 The _spell_ of polymorph, arguably, is OP; but it's high-level enough that a lot of characters can't easily cast it. So far I haven't decided whether it needs any further nerf. 11:37 for fh I specifically made sure that it was impossible to wish for, or polypile for, object properties 11:37 Perhaps it's fine, if we consider it a wizard perk. 11:38 i have almost never cast polymorph 11:38 because I wanted to encourage people to use what they find 11:38 nowdays people mostly just wish for !wonder anyway, but meh :P 11:38 oh then you want slex 11:38 hothraxxa: NObody does because the wand is easier. But if I give wands of polymorph, say, 3 zaps per recharge, and make the wand less common, that might change. 11:38 can't id anything, altars disappear when you buc test, etc etc 11:39 jonadab: i doubt it because it is almost never castable 11:39 Right, that's what I'm not sure about. 11:39 I think in any case that I will hold off on nerfing the spell, until I see if it is necessary or not. 11:39 Because it might not be needed. 11:39 just let people do it 11:39 polypile is a conduct 11:40 well 11:40 i'm beginning to suspect that you are not a real developer 11:40 "just let people do it" is against the developer code of conduct 11:40 me? 11:40 meh 11:40 yes 11:41 I left pudding farming alone 11:41 and other similar things 11:41 people can do it if they want to 11:41 the developer code of conduct is simple: if a strategy is successful, you must nerf it 11:41 when I nerf things, it's mostly to try to add variety 11:41 not to make the game harder 11:42 basically if item A is OP and everyone constantly uses it in their asc kit over item B or C which could theoretically substitute it 11:42 well my code of conduct is "if it makes the game too easy, I must nerf it" :D 11:42 I would either buff B and C or nerf A to add variety 11:43 so that people are encouraged to use differen things depending on their situation 11:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Law) destroyed Death, on T:38933 11:43 <@riker> amy I just found I could actually kill monsters in slex rather than just avoiding them 11:43 I've considered nerfing blue dragon scales, but I'm far from convinced that it's the superior choice 11:43 <@riker> that makes the game so much easier but I think its unbalanced 11:43 <@riker> pls fix 11:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Neu), 9705815 points, T:38952, ascended 11:44 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1597799068.dnh.txt 11:44 rofl 11:44 it just happens to be lux' favorite and he has most fiqhack ascensions since, well, he has most ascensions in general lately in variants 11:44 so things end up skewed towards it 11:45 <@microlance> "Crom was very angry with you" what an ingrate 11:45 congrats 11:46 is there anything 'too easy' with slex Amy 11:47 fiq: not taking anything away from luxi but his ascensions are skewed drastically to the easy variants 11:47 amateurhour: there often is, until I nerf it 11:47 <@riker> world fall scrolls are the last nerfed tactic I remember amateurhour 11:47 <@riker> reading can kill monsters on the lvl below your lvl iirc? 11:47 hothraxxa: with the exception of slex, I believe he has ascensions in all of tghem 11:47 *them 11:47 no evil, no grunt, 2 spork 11:47 huh, no grunt? I'm surprised 11:48 "2 spork" and that doesn't count? :P 11:48 isn't evil a fairly new variant 11:48 i didn't say it doesn't count, i said skewed drasrically 11:48 no dnh too listed for them on the scoreboard, that's surprising 11:48 only been around for a year or so 11:48 about 1.5 years available for public play 11:48 I see 11:48 clearly @luxidream should ascend it 11:48 will be 2 yrs old in october :P 11:49 luxidream doesnt really go for the nethack variants that are more difficult than average 11:49 i thnk luxi could ascend any that he wants to, he just doesn't want to play those variants outside of june 11:49 of course he's good enough, he could ascend evilhack or grunthack if he really wanted to 11:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:4836 11:49 grunthack is not more difficult than unnethack 11:49 IMO 11:49 no but i find it more fun 11:49 <{Demo}2> I like easy variants you can just kinda glide through 11:50 FIQ grunthack early game is much more difficult than unnethack 11:50 what, ultra-hard grunt on par with un? lol who are you kidding??? 11:50 true. hardest except for evil 11:50 its once you get a couple wishes, grunthack becomes a lot easier 11:50 K2: yeah grunthack has a even more screwed up difficulty curve than vanilla 11:50 it makes earlygame even harder and lategame even easier 11:50 ^^^ 11:50 grunt, where things can just zap you with slow monster and poly and everything and where you have to beat Demo who also has better stuff at his disposal, is certainly not as easy as un 11:51 no you don't have to beat demo 11:51 there's no slow status in grunt 11:51 and you don't need to beat demo 11:51 he's not covetous 11:51 well he is 11:51 yeah but the slow monster wand steals your intrinsic speed, so your samurai is suddenly only as good as a barbarian or valk 11:51 but grunt doesn't have covetous-warping 11:51 yeah, whcih makes it simpler to just skip him 11:51 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47485 11:51 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:47488 11:51 why aren't you wearing speed boots 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:5991 11:52 oh I'm sorry, I meant dragonhide boots of water walking and speed 11:52 sporkhack is the other way around - early/mid game is much like vanilla, but gets progressively more difficult as you progress to the endgame 11:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:5452 11:52 FIQ: of course I have those 500 turns into the game when that gnome with a wand of slow monster appeared. :P 11:52 overall sporkhack is harder than grunthack imo 11:52 fh is the same 11:52 fh earlygame is even easier than vanilla though 11:53 evilhack starts hard and just gets harder 11:53 and yes, spork is harder than grunt 11:53 :P 11:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2341 points, T:5547, killed by a Mordor orc 11:53 grunt isn't really hard if you know how to break it apart 11:53 is evilhack harder than grunt? 11:53 evilhack is easily the hardest 11:53 no 11:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed premium heart", on T:42802 11:53 that's slex 11:54 mostly due to the endurance test though 11:54 no slex is just fucking awful and i never count it 11:54 lol 11:54 slex isn't hard per se it's just full of lolgetfkd moments 11:54 * hothraxxa ducks amy 11:54 strictly speaking it's probably not harder than vanilla 11:54 but with the needless length, there's more opportunities for things to go wrong 11:54 murphy's law 11:54 if something can go wrong, it will 11:55 FIQ: you don't even play it, slex has much more gotchas than vanilla 11:55 also iirc slex used to be legitimately impossible 11:55 iirc Tariru's first asc wasn't possible until some bug fixes 11:55 *cough*nastytraps*cough* 11:55 around the planes 11:55 omg 11:55 LarienTelrunya: I've played slex 11:55 FIQ I had to recover his first asc game something like a dozen times 11:55 K2: yeah 11:55 FIQ: that bug struck only sometimes, when monsters with long names generated on astral 11:55 its like we ascended together 11:56 K2: clearly to make a variant public on a server, you should force the variant developer to ascend it once ;) 11:56 gratz K2 11:56 Tariru and K2 held hands and skipped to the correct high altar on astral 11:56 lol 11:56 Are we counting the difficulty of SLEX if a) Amy watches your game and you can ask her questions or b) she doesn't and you can't? 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:56425 11:56 and yeah nastytraps are something that doesn't exist in vanilla, no such fuckups exist in vanilla and they are just one of the many things that can screw up the slex player 11:56 Pinkbeast: b 11:56 although I guess a would make it much easier 11:56 ~~polymorph trap~~ 11:56 then there's "skill you could never train" 11:57 I ascended ADOM on my first serious game, but @mtf held my hand through some of it 11:57 <@luxidream> Property you can never have: Magic resistance 11:57 <@luxidream> gg 11:57 i dont have a dnethack asc under my belt. i should rectify that 11:57 even I have that 11:57 yes K2 you should 11:57 hm did I ever ascend spork 11:57 @luxidream: lol you should ascend slex :P 11:57 i came close once a couple years ago 11:57 there was one year where I would have become kotw if not for slex 11:58 LarienTelrunya: I think he values his dignity :^) 11:58 i don't play dnh because it's like a whole other game entirely 11:58 but idr if spork was hosted on a server that year 11:58 @luxidream where you been? 11:58 <@luxidream> Once I get bored of crawl I’ll think about it 11:58 @luxidream I played a bunch of crawl the last few days 11:58 hothraxxa: when I ascended it in June I stuck to the very 'normal' side of it 11:58 <@luxidream> K2: Lacking motivation :/ 11:58 noooo 11:59 had a lot of fun with gnolls because since I couldn't *not* train spells, it gave me my first real exposure to dcss spells 11:59 and dcss spells are cool 11:59 all the talk about crazy stuff in dnh that sounds confusing and offputting is all optional or for crazy new roles/races 11:59 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had a morning star named Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:47746 11:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1216 11:59 amateurhour: you still have alignment quests and dnh gehennom to contend with 11:59 <@luxidream> Where do you usually play FIQ 11:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1563 points, T:2668, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:59 @luxidream cue 12:00 luxi: PS, sorry, we took the bcrawl cblink change (level 7, range with spellpower) albeit at least that's not the vanilla removal 12:00 when I first added a bunch of servers, I think it might have been the only EU server 12:00 yeah FIQ that's true, but that's not really a giant departure 12:01 Pinkbeast: vanilla removed cblink? 12:01 that doesn't make any sense 12:01 <@luxidream> Pinkbeast: probably for the best 12:01 I've seen it in the spell library 12:01 <@riker> the alignment quests arent even that hard for the majority of them 12:01 <@luxidream> Trunk hasn’t removed cblink 12:01 but never castable for the stuff I've played 12:01 i know you can play it like vanilla except there's all this stuff i don't understand and i always feel like i'm missing out big time 12:01 <@luxidream> Though I have been playing casters recently and it’s fun to have decent spellpower 12:01 <@riker> law is consistently meh ignoring axus himself, chaos 2 and 3 are easy up until the final boss lair, neu outlands are pretty calm as well 12:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased helping hand", on T:40586 12:02 there ya go 12:02 yeah they're all fairly nice 12:02 @luxidream I can't play dcss casters to save my life 12:02 wyf is that and why wish for it? 12:02 wtf 12:02 helping hand is an artifact grappling hook that protects you from curses 12:02 I usually try to cast spells, run out of MP and try to melee hit with a rudimentary weapon I found on the ground and die 12:02 @luxidream where do you play 12:02 if I want to spec 12:03 <@luxidream> FIQ: Play trunk IE. Use frozen ramparts. Train up melee weapon, win 12:03 no good watching luxi, he moves too fast 12:03 some day I need to look into how dcss webtiles magic works 12:03 <@luxidream> I play on CAO 12:03 I want something like that for NH 12:03 hothraxxa tell me about it 12:03 @luxidream ahh I see 12:03 <@luxidream> Probably will be on later today 12:04 I saw IE got a new spell to play with since last time I played dcss (some years ago) 12:04 <@riker> hothraxxa: grappling hook (meh) that acts as an athame (pretty good) and blocks curses when carried (good) 12:04 that OHKOs stuff 12:04 sounds a bit OP 12:04 but idk, maybe not 12:04 <@luxidream> It’s cool for extended 12:04 Removed from trunk in 84ee57af9038432565f6e7b2e2af3bda81cac853 17 hours ago 12:04 uskuway has proved that guranteed OHKOs doesn't break the game 12:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:44925 12:05 so I guess that's why they thought of it without a knee-jerk "too OP" 12:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:3243 12:05 <@luxidream> I think he might have been talking about cblink 12:05 A0 is perhaps a bit easier to use than Grand Finale 12:05 @riker: so engraves like an athame? 12:06 Pinkbeast: "we took the bcrawl ..." what is we here? what varinat? 12:06 *variant 12:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 651 points, T:3435, killed by a wererat 12:06 FIQ: We are Stoat Soup (hang on, we've talked about this on Discord) 12:06 ohh 12:06 yes we have 12:06 but I was unfamiliar with your discord name 12:06 <@riker> yes hothraxxa 12:07 hm. i have only 3 unascended roles in n4=h4, i should probably just do them 12:07 nethack4=hack4 12:08 i am untrained in typing 12:08 restricted? ouch 12:08 (skill i can never train) 12:11 FIQ have you tried playing as a summoner in dcss? i've had decent luck with them 12:11 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:48155 12:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) was given the Grappler's Grasp, on T:2476 12:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 556 points, T:2076, killed by a gnome lord 12:13 asdfasdf: the caster type I had the most success with was Tm 12:13 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:48221 12:13 probably because Tm can actually hit stuff in melee without dying 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:14741 12:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed Baphomet, on T:45805 12:25 <@microlance> i wonder if my favourite combo in dcss still exists, the vinestalker assasin or whatever going for that dancing god and a rapier. and just stunlocking and backstabbing everything. 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2305 points, T:3111, killed by a bat 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7140 12:27 <@microlance> dcss has changed so much each time i do some games. this time i was surprised by the removal of food and the whole hunger clock thing. 12:27 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:27 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed can of grease", on T:48944 12:27 it was renamed but still exists 12:27 VSAs is now VSBr 12:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 144 points, T:1354, killed by a small mimic 12:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) averted death, on T:41195 12:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Anaraxis the Black, on T:15008 12:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15009 12:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:41504 12:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:41823 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:9022 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "Blessed Orb of Fate", on T:9026 12:47 -!- covi has joined #hardfought 12:48 -!- Mencherino is now known as Menche 12:49 FIQ: https://github.com/damerell/crawl/commit/83ac3bae73b596488947842c604249dfe97a4aa8, and thanks 12:54 Pinkbeast: 404 12:55 nvm the link parser included the comma 12:55 ahh I see 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1402 12:56 Pinkbeast: is there an exhaustive list of differences somewhere? 12:56 compared to vanilla 12:56 found it 12:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 28 points, T:67, killed by a newt 12:57 -!- maxlunar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57 Besides the Web page I think you have found, the changelog in-game should reflect all non-trivial differences 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:9664 12:59 looking at this list, I think the monster generation change to stop them from generating entirely in vanilla was a mistake and I don't understand why it was done 13:00 to me it just seems like it'd make stairdancing, which is already infamous enough, even more OP 13:00 since now instead of lesser monsters on explored levels, there's *no* monsters 13:01 Sometimes there were greater ones (one of the old clock mechanics was after 2,000 turns on a level, spawn difficulty ramps up dramatically) 13:01 commit 1d58f9a54f8a19b7a29d804dea877548194e15da gives vanilla's reasoning for removal. Don't ask me to justify it because I didn't agree with it so much that I started a variant. 13:02 the bcrawl change to stairdancing intrigued me a bit, but I think it might be too harsh since I think atm, locking away stairdancing entirely might lead to YAAD 13:03 bcrawl's approach is clever but kind of artificial. I think we were looking at gradually increasing noise on repeated stairs use, eventually Marking you and/or putting spawns nearby before making the noise. 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:9960 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:10042 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10026 points, T:4156, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping 13:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed The Good Neighbor, on T:45225 13:27 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 13:28 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 160 points, T:224, killed by a giant spider 13:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 974 points, T:1943, killed by a rothe 13:32 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:772 13:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:45806 13:35 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 13:36 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:47 -!- maxlunar has joined #hardfought 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:47095 13:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:47097 13:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:17930 13:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Mon Swn Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1877 13:55 K2: I hope you don't go with the suggestion of only having variants on your servers that have been ascended by their devs 13:55 * K2 looks up from deleting unnethack 13:55 ... what? 13:56 :P 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:16370 13:57 <{Demo}2> hey k2 id just like to say i dont think that k2 guy has ever ascended that evilhack game but i cant prove it (dumplogs are fake) 13:57 hax 13:58 You will have to ascend in front of a crowd 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16516 13:58 <{Demo}2> i should try to trick amy into trying to ascend dnhslex 13:58 {Demo}2: with reverse psychology? "Amy you should never ascend dnhslex, it's too hard for you and you can't do it anyway." 13:59 <@riker> hey amy i'll buy you a fleecy pair of shoes if you ascend dnhslex /s 13:59 <{Demo}2> what, is this reverse reverse psychology 13:59 <@riker> *another fleecy pair to match the ones you have 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:16692 13:59 well... it's all about rng and skill 14:00 Amy you should never ascend dnh, it's too hard for you and you can't do it anyway 14:00 Demo: I dunno, you tell me? isn't that how you usually do it, by requesting the exact opposite of what you want me to do? :D 14:00 <@riker> maxlunar: 100% percent luck, 100% skill, 100% concentrated power of will? 14:00 nothing is impossible, it's just more or less probable 14:01 <{Demo}2> lately I've been making demands for slex 14:01 <@mtf> ah yes FIQ's infamous first run win 14:01 <{Demo}2> like the iron ball of ball ironing artifact 14:01 <@mtf> of ADOM 14:01 <@mtf> was impressive stuff 14:01 <@mtf> FIQ have you beaten every roguelike now 14:01 <@riker> hey amy i wont play ur stupid variant unless u make it 10000x easier 14:01 @riker: you'll never get anywhere with me that way :P 14:01 <@riker> :( 14:02 <@mtf> hey amy i wont play your variant unless you make it 10000x harder 14:02 how do you measure difficulty in numbers anyway? 14:02 <@mtf> jk I think I still have a run going 🙂 14:02 hey amy, your stupid variant is too easy. make it 2147483648x harder! 14:02 * bhaak tries an integer overflow 14:02 <@riker> percentages of people who send you hate mail? 14:02 Amy fr though nerf para 14:03 heh 14:03 <@mtf> oh thats easy, 1 hard = 1 of those crazy traps 14:04 <@riker> however many nasty traps spawned in your game is how "hard" that game was 14:04 the game doesn't track how many such traps spawned, it does however track how many you actually triggered :P 14:04 <@riker> then use that :P 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1311 14:05 <@mtf> ALL the traps! 14:06 scanlining the last 15 floor, no chaotic quest :C 14:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 21 points, T:103, killed by a fox 14:07 maxlunar: tell the chat how you were doing that, I want to see their reactions :D 14:07 especially riker's and amateurhour's :D 14:07 lol 14:07 exactly what 14:08 <{Demo}2> is this bigslex? 14:08 the strategy you used for trying to find the portal 14:08 nah, normal slex 14:08 'normal' slex 14:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Inc Mal Neu) killed the Grue, on T:36166 14:08 slash'em? 14:08 strategy for portal? just walking over every room square 14:08 oh sweet jesus 14:08 <{Demo}2> reminds me of this 14:08 XD 14:08 <{Demo}2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/746068210587009106/unknown.png 14:09 welp. so far WSL 2 is a flop 14:09 ? 14:09 Demo: lol why was I expecting a screenshot of DOOM 2 there? 14:09 <@mtf> you don't like WSL 2? 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1825 14:09 <@mtf> why not 14:09 cant connect to shit all with it 14:09 ???? 14:09 <@mtf> ? ? ? ? 14:09 one of a bazillion - https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/5061 14:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Mon Swn Fem Law), 8320 points, T:3551, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:09 okie, no chaotic portal on 15 14:09 time to go back 14:10 <@mtf> I was able to update just fine k2 14:10 <@mtf> I installed it yesterday lol 14:10 <@mtf> did yoiu install that kernel update? 14:10 luckily its easy to tell what package to use WSL 1 or 2 14:10 fuck, i probably triggered inventorylessness 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed plaxcaster's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:1903 14:10 <{Demo}2> just troubleshoot it? 14:10 yeah i'm all updated 14:10 <{Demo}2> like hop on the ubuntu and pretend ur troubleshooting a linux box that can't connect to shit 14:10 i've already tried a few tricks 14:10 nada 14:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Mal Cha), 4 points, T:7, killed by a jackal 14:11 doesnt matter the distro either 14:11 <@mtf> what dns are you using 14:11 <@mtf> that post you linked talks about DNS issues 14:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:12 <{Demo}2> cat /etc/resolv.conf 14:12 under WSL 2, the linux distro uses 172.x.x.x in /etc/resolv.conf 14:12 <{Demo}2> is that ur local dns? 14:12 switched back to WSL 1, it looks sane 14:12 {Demo}2 no not at all which explains a lot 14:12 <@mtf> maybe try google dns or cloudflare 14:12 i'll try the WSL 1 resolv.conf for WSL 2 14:12 i tried 8.8.8.8 14:12 nerp 14:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 300 points, T:642, killed by a small dart 14:13 <@mtf> hmm 14:13 <@mtf> 1.1.1.1 is faster these days anyway 🙂 14:13 disabled my VPN client also to make sure 14:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 26 points, T:19, killed by a marid 14:14 converting my ubuntu distro back to WSL 2 14:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 115 points, T:521, killed by a jackal 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Bar Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a human mummy, on T:3440 14:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 99 points, T:419, killed by a jackal 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became permanently transformed into a human mummy, on T:3440 14:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Mal Cha), 32 points, T:261, killed by a sewer rat 14:17 no dice 14:18 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/746070744777359430/unknown.png 14:18 blah 14:18 <@mtf> that's the one my WSL2 instance created 14:18 <@mtf> similar to yours? 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:57466 14:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] fxenakis (Wiz Inc Fem Cha), 78952 points, T:5983, killed by a bone devil 14:19 similar yes 14:19 not exact 14:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 112 points, T:512, killed by a fox 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2396 14:20 in mine its 172.20.48.1 14:20 <@mtf> huh, weird 14:20 i added yours just for grins 14:21 nada 14:21 so its something else 14:21 if i switch back to WSL 1, all is well 14:21 <@mtf> yea that is real strange 14:21 <@mtf> that sucks =/ 14:21 well its not pressing 14:22 <@mtf> but the virtualization features!!!! 14:22 ikr?? 14:22 <@mtf> haha 14:22 about the only net feature that works is ping 14:22 brb 14:23 can you curl ip addresses? do we know it's definitely dns? 14:24 find what's touching your resolv.conf if so 14:24 <{Demo}2> it says you can modify wsl.conf to not fuck with ur resolv.conf 14:24 curl didnt work 14:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:1518 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3276 points, T:2640, killed by an owlbear 14:27 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 14421 points, T:11626, killed by a troll 14:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) was given Kingslayer, on T:2562 14:30 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51095 14:30 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:51102 14:31 <@microlance> the gifts, never have tymora been so giving. 14:31 <{Demo}2> saw a fireball explode and i thought it was oona 14:34 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:51267 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4162 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vis' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:5612 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5889 14:44 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:51402 14:45 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:51409 14:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 6216 points, T:6943, killed by a gnome lord zombie 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 634 points, T:1681, killed by a rabid rat 14:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:53 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:19, killed by an electric shock 14:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1427 points, T:1964, killed by a gnome lord 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2207 14:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ran Bat Mal Cha), 5958 points, T:1597, killed by a water elemental of Latona 14:58 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52433 14:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:03 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:1894 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8273 15:05 i'm on track to ascend in dnh, should i blow most of my money on the oracle for kicks? 15:05 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52910 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 649 points, T:1814, killed by a bugbear 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:8450 15:06 <{Demo}2> no, theres no kicks to be had there 15:06 <@Sig> Money can actually be useful in dnh Gehennom, lots of devils ask for bribes. 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:52926 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52926 15:07 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 26550 points, T:2601, killed by a dingo 15:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 694 points, T:1502, killed by an iguana 15:15 <@microlance> you gotta kill everything in gehennom 15:15 <@microlance> everything! 15:15 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53129 15:15 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 21380 points, T:1706, killed by a bugbear 15:15 <{Demo}2> including urself 15:16 <@riker> silence glaive be like 15:16 <@microlance> its inevitable sometimes, when your fighting lamasthu or blowing up drawbridges you think are doors. 15:16 <@microlance> it happens 15:17 <@riker> neither of those are inevitable 15:17 @sig im past gehennon, got the amulet already. had a ton of gold saved up for that and ended up getting really lucky not having to use it 15:17 <@riker> yeah no harm making the oracle a rich woman 15:17 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53163 15:17 <@Sig> Oh, well in that case it's just dead weight 15:17 <@microlance> i drop all gold before i go in 15:18 the first room eligible for stairs i checked in the level that had asmodeous had the stairs lol 15:18 <@microlance> gold are useless to the dead or those of demigodhood 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:10139 15:19 <@Sig> Fast Nessus is the best Nessus. That level's terrifying 15:19 <@microlance> its pretty rare asmos room has the real stairs, you kill him for all the demons you get to kill afterwards. and the surprise lords you can run into 15:20 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:53223 15:22 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:53246 15:24 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:53261 15:24 <@Sig> The 9x Pit Fiend room is terrifying as well 15:25 -!- myn has joined #hardfought 15:26 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3460927 points, T:53276, ascended 15:26 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/myn/nh343/dumplog/1597519604.nh343.txt 15:27 ok. after the previous em-bare-assing stoning death, the rng was extra kind this time 15:29 <@riker> 9x pit fiend room is the worst 15:29 oh great, just prayed on the wrong altar :| 15:30 <@riker> daemon > glasya > grab bag > pit fiend gang > asmo for "best to worst to clear" 15:30 <@riker> possibly swap glasya & grab bag if you are scared of losing your weapon to a whip 15:31 <@microlance> i just do the rooms clockwise starting either upper or lower right then go asmo. 15:31 <@microlance> its the way the developers meant for it to be done 15:32 <@microlance> glasya is nice, since she has a +9 golden band. which can be good 15:32 <@microlance> and that room is almost as patchetic as daemons. i dont even understand how those two losers got invited to some top demon meeting 15:34 <@riker> there is exactly 1 developer involved there lol 15:35 <@riker> and glasya is annoying if you can't fight unarmed bc her whip can yoink ur weapon 15:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kisumeow (Val Hum Fem Neu), 72 points, T:341, killed by a magic missile 15:39 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Cha) killed Vecna, on T:66277 15:40 congrats Myn! 15:40 what happened last time? 15:40 oh great again, rubbed a lamp and got a tame djinni 15:40 also riker whats daemon 15:40 thanks. the previous game, got careless due to overconfidence in a cockatrice nest 15:41 hopefully left a bones :P 15:42 <@riker> asdfasdf he's a specific unique @ (half-demon half-human) found in nessus 15:42 <@riker> he's asmodeus's son, effectively he's like a death knight mixed with a master lich 15:42 -!- asdfasdf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42 <@riker> so a master lich that hits with a weapon 15:43 <@riker> glasya is asmo's daughter, she's got acid attacks and an annoying electrical whip 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:26992 15:43 -!- asdfasdf has joined #hardfought 15:44 did i miss anything? my computer randomly disconnected me lol 15:44 <@riker> me explaining daemon + glasya but nothing else 15:45 i saw the first line of the daemon explanation but missed the rest oops 15:45 <@riker> https://hardfought.org/irclog/%23hardfought-2020-08-20.log 15:46 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:47 oo, neat. logs! 15:47 well, this is the first time I completed all 3 alignment quests in slex :D 15:47 <@riker> ya, this channel is logged on hardfought.org/irclog 15:47 <@riker> grats maxlunar! 15:47 ty :) 15:47 <@riker> this is when amy says "TROPHY GET!" 15:48 does the rogue spirit dude that begins with an a protect from whip stealing 15:49 <@riker> what 15:49 <@riker> oh, andromalius 15:49 yeah that dude 15:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2749 15:49 <@riker> it does not seem to according to apply.c 15:50 <@riker> may or may not be supposed to 15:50 <@riker> idk 15:50 <@riker> is disarming stealing? 15:50 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible mightyquinn's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:6453 15:51 ah, yeah makes sense since it isnt legit stealing 15:51 can you use the "n1e" command to "reuse" lizard corpses with stoning protection 15:51 <@riker> well - it's done in use_whip in apply.c so i just think its just oversight in regards to not doing stuff 15:51 <@riker> uh. i don't think you can intentionally only eat a bit of it 15:52 <@riker> but yeah you can use partly eaten ones 15:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2211 points, T:2916, killed by an orc-captain 15:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 118 points, T:364, killed by a wand 15:57 -!- asdfasdf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 331 points, T:637, killed by a bolt of fire 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1528 points, T:3860, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 15:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 103 points, T:45, killed by a hobbit 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:28713 16:02 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 16:04 Amy I forgot to mention earlier that I kicked a shopkeeper's chest and smashed some potions inside 16:04 amateurhour: well sounds like something that could happen 16:05 instead of getting angry they seemed more than happy to lower the price of the chest now it didn't have those pesky potions inside 16:05 huh, weird 16:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:53257 16:05 for a moment I thought you kicked a shopkeeper in the chest 16:06 haha, perhaps I should have 16:08 probably a minor bug then 16:09 in player's favour: probs a minor bug 16:09 shafts the player: works as intended :^) 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:17382 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 139245 points, T:17720, killed by a soldier 16:16 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:16 -!- myn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 477 points, T:2045, killed by a wererat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:55232 16:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 559 points, T:3119, killed by a wererat 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:33093 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:2359 16:28 aaaaaand i got the secret door detection wand 16:29 i think a black dragon is where the wand of wishing is... I could genocide, but then no black rain (i don't have reflection so i xorned in on the other side) 16:30 taming not possible? 16:30 not yet 16:31 bell of opening + wands of digging? 16:31 i could fight my way through the castle, but w/ no reflection someone will zap lightning and i'll lose my rings etc 16:32 can't stash them in a bag for the moment? 16:33 yeah i can... just noticed i already lost sd 16:33 i'm being lazy. feel like crap IRL and can't concentrate lol 16:34 sorry to hear! just have some fun with this game ;-) 16:35 hah thanks :) 16:35 forgot to take robe off when i polyself'd just now. ripppp 16:35 i have a spare tho if i ever make it back to stash 16:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 754 points, T:2117, killed by a piranha 16:38 got the wand ;) 0:2 16:39 alright neferret let's go 16:39 \o/ 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1515 points, T:3127, killed by a dwarf 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:33726 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Neferet the Green, on T:33728 16:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 9417 points, T:10217, killed by a giant zombie 16:43 man... i don't even have any amulets to poly for reflection 16:43 might wish for dragonbane 16:45 Amy is there a way into that secret room in the polytrap beehive mines' end variant? 16:45 I've never noticed it before 16:45 ugh, I'd need to check the des file 16:45 oh if you're gonna source dive to check I'll just do it dw 16:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4311 16:46 you mean the one to the west? apparently only via teleportation 16:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:47 ah 16:48 thanks for looking 16:48 would probably require tele control 16:48 or maybe phasing 16:48 I think this might be my least favourite mines end 16:48 (but can't phase as sokosolver) 16:49 ah I've just seen what's in there 16:52 speaking of teleport control 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 391 points, T:1226, killed by a giant bat 16:59 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 16:59 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Cha) killed Ford Perfect, on T:71561 17:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ana Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gauntlets of spell power", on T:28568 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:34440 17:01 does teleport control work with phase door? guessing not 17:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a glass large shield entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2926 17:02 nope 17:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Fem Neu), 28409 points, T:7613, killed by a flesh golem zombie 17:04 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:5241 17:07 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3825 17:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:4159 17:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:63466 17:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) was given Windrider, on T:5969 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Footpad, on T:1214 17:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:63781 17:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7290 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1069 points, T:1932, killed by a giant ant 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 12765 points, T:10225, killed while stuck in creature form, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:41 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:42 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Cha) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:75353 17:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the Avatar of Lolth, on T:65322 18:01 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the ghost of Thidwick, the former Curator, on T:43125 18:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:10651 18:05 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 612 points, T:1291, killed by a giant bat 18:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:08 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:43188 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vis' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:2847 18:27 @mtf nah 18:27 a couple of them sure 18:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed Enki, on T:28811 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3916 points, T:3206, killed by a wolf 18:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 godhands", on T:14072 18:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:43 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 18:48 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:4, killed by a falling rock 18:49 so I decided to, before I forgot that my last dcss run was a win, try to winstreak because why not 18:50 almost managed it, but failed at the very end :P 18:50 died at their equivalent of the sanctum (Zot:5) 18:51 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) completed Lokoban, on T:30225 18:53 -!- covi has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:55 -!- jfcaron has joined #hardfought 18:57 FIQ: I have one Zot splat total, which was annoying but kind of came as a relief because now the pressure was off 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:2047 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 191 points, T:514, poisoned by a jumping spider 19:02 <@mtf> noooo 19:02 <@mtf> sorry FIQ 😦 19:02 <@mtf> winstreaks are fun 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1115 points, T:2769, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh4] Marsh (jmccro) (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 24565 points, T:1052, killed by a dwarf king, while sleeping 19:09 -!- jfcaron has left #hardfought 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1883 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1401 points, T:2063, killed by a giant spider 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Inf Orc Mal Una), 689 points, T:714, killed by a bolt of lightning 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 7104 points, T:6288, killed by a gold golem 19:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ana Inc Mal Neu) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:29228 19:21 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:23 Pinkbeast: hrh 19:23 *heh 19:25 Silence is a bit more feasible in Stoat Soup because noise cancels it, but the time you learn many demonic etc abilities can't be silenced can be a _bit_ of a learning experience 19:25 Damn near got me on NaBe but that's maybe a story for a Crawl channel 19:31 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 337 points, T:874, killed by a wererat 19:33 hmm 19:33 apparently nethack has a way to allow you to disable/enable sections of the config now 19:33 with CHOOSE 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3314 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3711 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3933 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:4102 19:45 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 19:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 19:46 Gonna be streaming in a couple minutes 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4228 19:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:17152 19:50 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:52 its either I'm stupid, or this level lost a staircase 19:52 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 19:52 !whereis maxlunar 19:52 maxlunar: [hdf-us] MaxLunar [slex]: (Ass Esp Fem Cha) T:78602 The Subquest level: 46 19:58 hmmmm which variant to play… or perhaps vanilla 20:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:18314 20:02 dnh! 20:02 spicycat: Message from shadowcat at 2020-08-17 13:45 EDT: it's funny...I don't usually do Sokoban, but I figured I'd go up and look.... 20:02 where you streamin? 20:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Hlf Mal Cha), 203893 points, T:18501, killed by an Astral Deva of Thoth 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5478 20:08 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 20:08 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest54069 20:08 -!- Guest54069 has quit [Killed (beckett.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 20:08 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 20:09 I have literally never played dnethack, so sure, why not 20:10 <@Sig> !lastgame microlance 20:10 @Sig: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1597957375.dnh.txt 20:10 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 20:10 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:11 <@Sig> Ah, figured Astral devas only showed up on Astral 20:13 [hdf-us] [4k] charlotte (charles) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7398 points, T:2161, killed by an orcish dagger 20:13 -!- sebastia1toby has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:13 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 20:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Sceptre of Lolth, on T:6299 20:23 <@riker> antigulp are you twitch antigulp? 20:25 Ha, take that, OBS! I’ll take that 70% reduction in CPU usage any day of the week 20:26 https://www.twitch.tv/antigulp Watch me have no idea what I’m doing in dnethack as I try to determine if my laptop will let me stream without overheating! 20:26 "antigulp is offline" 20:27 ...hmmm 20:27 Oh, not anymore. I wonder if my computer can watch this without overheating 20:28 <@riker> the broadcast has ended 20:28 <{Demo}2> guess laptop overheated :P 20:28 <@riker> aha here it is 20:29 <@riker> this is like greensleeves but different 20:29 <@riker> and I cant tell if that's you or your background music breathing 20:31 Pinkbeast: relevant: https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2950 20:32 -!- j6p has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:32 Rule One: don't be on fire 20:33 @le?Master of Desaster 20:33 Master of Desaster (º) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical, 2d4 claw amulet steal | Alignment: -20 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:3644 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:3645 20:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7405 20:49 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given Hellfire, on T:8372 20:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Brd Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Aegis", on T:884 20:55 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3074 nice going Beholder 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2718 points, T:3903, killed by a killer bee 21:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Brd Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2153 21:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] antigulp (Pir Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3052 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36062 21:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] antigulp (Pir Elf Fem Cha) wished for "+2 blessed fixed historic blue dragon scale mail named Badass Biker Jacket", on T:3282 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:36179 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4965 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36927 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:36930 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:36931 21:35 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 21:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 678 points, T:949, killed by a rabid dog 21:58 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:58 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 21:59 gnite o/ 21:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] antigulp (Pir Elf Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:5667 22:03 I like dnethack 22:08 -!- Mencherino has joined #hardfought 22:08 AntiGulp, does dnethack like you back? 22:09 I like slex, but I lost in it, lol 22:09 I literally cant find the stairs again 22:09 despite having all squares mapped 22:10 bug_sniper: Apparently? It’s my first time playing but I found two magic lamps and a magic marker and I beat mine’s end. 22:12 On the other hand, I managed to get fatal food poisoning twice within 50 turns 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 415 points, T:1151, killed by tinklebear's ghost, while being terrified of a ghost 22:15 sounds like at least one good run 22:18 AntiGulp, do you warn players before they step into water or lava in splicehack? 22:18 Yup! Splice uses xnethack’s paranoid water/lava patch. 22:18 awesome 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] fhru (jmccro) (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 32777 points, T:2537, killed by a vampire bat 22:19 Gosh, I really need to finalize 0.8.0 for release 22:19 I kinda got frustrated with other variants after I kept stepping into water and wasting my scrolls and potions 22:19 why does water blank scrolls so fast anyways? 22:20 It’s NetHack. All natural elements are automatically 200% more aggressive than their IRL equivalents. 22:21 I miss the paranoid patch in those variants. Lots of runs were destroyed by stepping into lava or water by accident 22:22 The first time I ever beat a quest, I typo’d my way into lava 100 turns later. I was so mad. 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 261 points, T:229, killed by a hobbit 22:23 I lost my valkyrie by stepping into lava in quest, after killing the Surtur 22:24 Yup, same 22:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Brd Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10916 22:26 <@Sig> I've never fat-fingered myself to death in lava but I did just walk into it the first time I saw it in ASCII 22:26 <@Sig> There was only one tile of it in the area so I just assumed it was something else 22:26 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 196020 points, T:45881, killed by an iron golem, while paralyzed by a monster 22:29 Thidwick :( 22:30 !whereis maxlunar 22:30 maxlunar: [hdf-us] MaxLunar [slex]: (Ass Esp Fem Cha) T:83298 The Subquest level: 42 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 176 points, T:350, killed by a gnome lord 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1554 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:6140 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 14 points, T:37, killed by a water moccasin 22:39 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:6267 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 149 points, T:309, killed by a gnome 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] Marsh (jmccro) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 25288 points, T:1053, killed by a werejackal, while fainted from lack of food 23:00 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:8082 23:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 484 points, T:1034, killed by a cave spider 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh4] Arwen (jmccro) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 28336 points, T:1781, killed by a dwarf 23:18 -!- maxlunar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:41280 23:29 -!- MaryHadalittle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:29 -!- MaryHadalittle has joined #hardfought 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:8798 23:36 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) killed Jack, on T:42452 23:42 -!- covi has joined #hardfought 23:43 Jubilex teleported to me and engulfed me, and I'm terminally ill now. Should I zap wand of digging at it first, or should I apply my blessed unicorn horn first? Both are in open inventory. 23:43 did you "feel much worse"? 23:43 if not, you have enough time to get out of him for sure 23:44 I just see "Juiblex engulfs you! You feel deathly sick." 23:44 <@ShivanHunter> you're fine for a few turns 23:45 <@ShivanHunter> illness takes longer to act than either stoning or sliming, but further attacks ("you feel much worse") can wreck you with no warning 23:45 You get expelled from Juiblex with a squelch! You feel cured. What a relief! You kill Juiblex! 23:45 <@ShivanHunter> noice 23:45 THx guys 23:45 He dropped into the water so I can't get his loots. 23:45 <@ShivanHunter> rip 23:46 <@ShivanHunter> he doesn't drop much anyway 23:46 <@ShivanHunter> none of the demon lords other than Orcus really drop anything you want 23:47 Done with Asmodeus, Baalzebub, and Juiblex 23:50 -!- MaryHadalittle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:53 -!- MaryHadalittle has joined #hardfought 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Ran Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:12267