00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2046 points, T:1757, killed by an imp 00:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:17282 00:06 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 4730 points, T:3939, killed by a crocodile, while praying 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4735 points, T:5039, killed by a crocodile 00:23 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:34651 00:24 [hdf-us] [spl] Agrius (Val Dwa Fem Law), 322 points, T:1234, killed by a water demon 00:24 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:38 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Durin's Bane, on T:35231 00:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:25699 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:25894 00:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:20767 01:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:19334 01:04 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:36209 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:22351 01:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Twelve (Val Hum Fem Law), 395 points, T:1522, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse, while helpless 01:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) killed the Grue, on T:19919 01:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1154 points, T:1209, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 01:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) wished for "upgrade kit", on T:21346 01:19 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 01:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1435 points, T:2366, killed by a killer bee 01:26 [hdf-us] [fh] Agrius (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 22451 points, T:1500, killed by a giant ant 01:26 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:28 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 01:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed Dagon, on T:21756 01:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed the invisible Fierna, on T:21785 01:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) destroyed Baalphegor, on T:22156 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:26490 01:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:22197 01:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed Graz'zt, on T:22285 01:55 [hdf-us] [fh] mtf tester man (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Law), 30114 points, T:1819, quit 01:56 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Law), 38587 points, T:2918, quit 01:59 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 54923 points, T:9395, quit 01:59 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 42842 points, T:7887, quit, in explore mode 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3072 02:02 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3110 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3183 02:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3201 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:27807 02:11 -!- covi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2240 points, T:3457, killed by an owlbear 02:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed Asmodeus, on T:22396 02:17 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Law), 28297 points, T:1296, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:25641 02:40 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2423 02:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed Daemon, on T:22455 02:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed Glasya, on T:22481 02:54 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:54 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 02:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3863 03:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] plaxcaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 5680 points, T:3910, killed by a wolf 03:01 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) performed the invocation, on T:22954 03:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:22988 03:04 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed the invisible Grue, on T:23372 03:16 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) entered the Planes, on T:23641 03:23 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:24 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:26 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:29510 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:29526 03:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:44 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) destroyed Death, on T:24328 03:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) destroyed Pestilence, on T:24346 03:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:24360 03:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Clk Fem Non), 9264388 points, T:24368, ascended 03:46 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1597677877.dnh.txt 03:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:21634 03:54 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 03:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:54 [hdf-eu] [slex] joes (Loc Kor Mal Law), 319 points, T:543, killed by a monster (battle scarred ronin) 03:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Rog Orc Mal Cha) stole 1460 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ennistymon's second-hand bookstore, on T:1057 03:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 192 points, T:1075, killed by a Kop Sergeant 04:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 62 points, T:198, killed by a kobold 04:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:22353 04:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:31935 04:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31992 04:02 gratz microlance 04:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 222 points, T:1040, killed by a small mimic 04:12 -!- kelamir[m] has quit [Quit: killed] 04:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:55926 04:18 -!- kelamir[m] has joined #hardfought 04:22 gg microlance! 04:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:24346 04:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Fem Law), 1348339 points, T:56741, killed by a weredemon 04:38 oh that sucked 04:40 !lastgame 04:40 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1597168924.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/evilhack/dumplog/1597738988.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mirlington/splicehack/dumplog/1597269074.splice.html 04:41 maybe wear some armor next time 04:45 where did your armour go? 04:46 i dropped it like a moron when i got lycanthropy 04:46 but i really just needed to drop the boulders... 04:47 ahh 04:52 can you pray in vlads? (i'm thinking of all the things i did wrong) 04:57 that's gotta be a highscore for not ascending. add it to my list of accomplishments ! 04:59 heh, silver linings 05:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:21 <@bubbles> I think you can pray in vlad unless it is eveiler 05:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Val Swn Fem Neu), 633 points, T:972, killed by a dagger 05:34 oh no rebatela :-( 05:35 just saw 05:35 praying in vlads should work 05:38 weredemons are nasty, I always try to have wolfsbane in open inventory and a ring of protection from shapechangers. 05:53 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2680 06:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 rakuyo-saber named fire brand", on T:3378 06:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] baguar (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 569 points, T:2267, killed by a bat 07:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] baguar (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 36 points, T:171, killed by a sewer rat 07:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] baguar (Bar Hum Mal Neu) murdered Idefix, his faithful little dog, on T:1641 07:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:11449 07:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:12761 07:48 !booze 07:48 * Beholder pours nabru a shot of moonshine, replicated by Announcy at 23 degrees Celsius. 07:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:13317 07:56 -!- spicycat has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:15 !coffee 08:15 * Beholder tosses amateurhour a pint of espresso, prayed over by Arsinoe at 60 degrees Celsius. 08:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Bin Hum Mal Non) wished for "blessed greased Wallet of Perseus", on T:58891 08:18 Hey can anyone tell me how dnh's wish rings work? I found a 'Black ring with 1 star' in the castle. Does that mean I only get one wish? Can it be charged? 08:19 only one wish Tangles, you got unlucky 08:20 but if you get only one wish from the ring there'll be a candle of invocation for you in the valley 08:20 Thanks amateurhour. I fugured. 08:20 figured 08:20 so there's a silver lining at least 08:21 Oh is that actually balanced like that? cool. 08:21 also can use wish ring as lifesaving if you didn't already know, when worn it can use a charge to save you 08:22 <@Joanna> Morning folks 08:22 aren't you in a place where it's the afternoon? :P 08:22 hi 08:22 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:22 <@Joanna> I just woke up 08:22 <@Joanna> That means it's morning 08:22 hi 08:22 Hello amateurhour, Welcome to #hardfought 08:22 I already found 2 candles (in one treasure vault) which I have not used yet, and I have 2 magic lamps, and have had a bunch of randoms from smoky full healing, so I'm not too starved of wishes this game. 08:22 <@Joanna> Hey K2 08:22 Hi Beholder 08:23 * K2 pets Beholder 08:23 <@Joanna> Hey Tangles 08:23 not that you need too many wishes generally anyway 08:23 stupid rude bot. Who wrote thar piece of crap? 08:23 * K2 gives Beholder a nice lil doggo hat to wear 08:23 awww 08:23 Hi @Joanna and K2 :) 08:23 <@Joanna> 😍 08:23 o/ Tangles 08:24 and thanks amateurhour :) 08:24 <@Joanna> Does this mean you're reconsidering doggo hats 08:24 no 08:24 its what we like to call a 'mind fuck' 08:24 <@Joanna> Aw 08:26 amateurhour: I do vaguely remember reading something about the ring being lifesaving. That might be useful if I need to swap out the amulet for something else. 08:27 then again, I have a nice +3 ring of protection which is also engagement, so that might stay on, and the shard, which is aggravate monster this game, but hey you can't win them all. 08:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Bin Hum Mal Non) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:59093 08:28 ah that's an unlucky one 08:29 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof dragonhide +5 shield of the resolute heart", on T:45181 08:29 amateurhour: Fortunately that quest also has the Mantle of Wrath which blocks agg monst when worn, so it's not really an issue. 08:30 Hmm didn't get dragonhide - figured I wouldn't. 08:32 anyway, got me some half-phys :) 08:32 nice one 08:32 you gonna do any of that sizzling stuff? 08:32 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 08:33 <{Demo}2> weird wish when aegis exists 08:33 hiii 08:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 frost brand", on T:15441 08:34 <{Demo}2> eh, maybe if you have the right stuff it could make sense 08:34 Tangles, you gonna win some dnh then? 08:35 aoei: We'll see ;) 08:36 good luck with it! 08:36 {Demo}2: Yeah I like aegis, but decided to mix it up a little this time. 08:36 my scoreboard tells me you've only ascended Valk on dnh 08:37 Yeah the scoreboard needs a bit of work in that regard. 08:37 oh do you have others? 08:37 It doesn't show either of my pirates or anachronauts. 08:37 *anachrononauts 08:37 hm I'll make a note of this 08:37 ohno 08:37 I misread the scoreboard 08:38 it shows 6 including Anachronaut and Pirate 08:38 https://nethackscoreboard.org/players/T/Tangles.dnh.html 08:39 ah I was looking at the active streaks bit 08:39 there was 1 valk win listed there 08:41 Oh that should not be active.... although I did that on ascrun before hardfought existed, maybe I haven't played there since. 08:42 yeah it's from asc 08:42 so it's still "active" technically 08:43 I think there are some places in the scoreboard where it doesn't always show non-vanilla roles though, maybe in the z-score tables. It calculates the scores correctly, but doesn't show all of them. 08:43 that might be Tangles 08:43 I checked first-to-ascend and it looks okay, but I'm not 100% sure if it has all of the possible combinations 08:44 Hmm I have 39 uncursed tele scrolls and unholy water, and I've been walking between levels like a pleb. That probably should stop. 08:44 I'm not sure how many roles dnh should have, but there are at least a few non-vanilla in the dnh Z-Score page as well 08:44 Yeah I think the dnh combos in first-to-ascend are a bit messed up too. 08:45 aoei: The Splicehack z-score table doesn't show convict. 08:45 That may be what I was thinking of. 08:46 So my z-score is 3, but the visible columns only add up to 2. 08:46 !pom 08:46 nabru: The moon is new for 3 more days. 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed dvorkian's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3966 08:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Wiz Vam Mal Neu), 90153 points, T:11919, killed by a blast of acid 08:48 Tangles, I ought to review it for all the variants tbh 08:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3653 points, T:4323, caught herself in her own magical blast 08:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:22529 08:51 <{Demo}2> is mandevil or whoever manages that still around? 08:52 the torch has been passed on 08:52 it has a new home at https://nethackscoreboard.org/ 08:52 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 08:56 <{Demo}2> who runs it now and is it someone that scares me as much as that guy did? 08:59 well that depends demo 08:59 do I scare you? 08:59 <{Demo}2> in a different way 08:59 do mobileuser or elenmirie scare you? 08:59 <{Demo}2> in a different way 08:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1398 points, T:3738, killed by a giant mummy 08:59 okay then xD 08:59 we've set ourselves up as a trio of new official maintainers 08:59 and K2 provides the hosting 09:00 <{Demo}2> who do i talk to about getting ndnh scores up on there? 09:00 me 09:00 would the sum total of fear from those 3 be greater than your fear of Mandevil? 09:00 amateurhour, lol 09:00 <{Demo}2> it should be a matter of just reusing however dnh is configured to read scores 09:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide boots of flying", on T:16167 09:01 do you have a list of all the new roles and races? 09:01 <{Demo}2> ah 09:02 there won't be too many compared to dnh I'd imagine, guessing this should have enough info? 09:02 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/2020.04.16/changelog.txt 09:02 <{Demo}2> it doesnt have it in a pretty format 09:03 probs no big deal I'm sure they can figure it out 09:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Rog Sal Fem Cha), 72 points, T:1337, died of starvation 09:03 <{Demo}2> oh neat, that one doesnt have a special name 09:03 yeah lemme throw that link in a gissue for the github repo 09:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16412 09:04 or mb just in the etherpad 09:04 mystic also reports monk iirc 09:04 <{Demo}2> i think i didnt change mystic from mon, yeah 09:04 <{Demo}2> gonna change the name change back at some point though, it was dumb 09:04 <{Demo}2> https://pastebin.com/raw/6PnPWQc1 i think this is right, everything else should have the same short names as dnh 09:05 {Demo}2, #nhs-dev is the channel for all your scoreboard needs btw 09:05 <{Demo}2> cool, will keep in mind 09:05 -!- OmNyomNyom has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 298 points, T:1224, killed by a giant spider 09:06 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:16128 09:08 {Demo}2, Mandevil scares me too XD 09:09 he is both man and devil 09:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] phaperplane2 (Acu Hum Mal Law) completed Lokoban, on T:12688 09:09 lol 09:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:16829 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1781 09:12 [hdf-us] [slex] bagun (Fla Hum Mal Neu), 7906 points, T:2330, killed by a monster (moon rabbit) 09:13 corona stats are rising in Hamburg again after a 2 month stretch of <10 new cases per day 09:13 I'm getting a bit paranoid about it lol 09:13 corona stats never went down here in Brazil 09:13 :| 09:13 :S 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vis' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:1979 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1995 points, T:2001, poisoned by a killer bee 09:14 a friend wants me to come over for a small meeting of their anarcho-syndicalist let's-overthrow-capitalism pipedream posse 09:14 but they were at a rave on Saturday and probably full of rona 09:14 so I'm having second thoughts 09:15 and did you tell them 'no, that sounds too much like a slex race/role combo' 09:15 xD 09:15 get them into slex 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 59 points, T:274, killed by a giant spider 09:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed mithril amulet of magic resistance", on T:44066 09:20 nabru, :( 09:20 mean spider 09:20 :| 09:21 t:274 is pretty early for giant spiders 09:21 wtf happened 09:21 mines trapdoor? 09:21 !lastgame nabru 09:21 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1597756585.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/slex/dumplog/1590976383.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 09:21 Nope 09:21 D:2 09:21 wtf 09:21 D:2 09:21 Maybe a polytrap? 09:22 shouldn't be polytraps on D:2 09:22 I don't think spider rooms are supposed to happen that early 09:22 no thats normal now for vanilla 09:22 D: 09:22 K2, earlier polytraps or something with spider rooms? 09:22 i think aosdict submitted a PR to address that 09:22 yeah that's really unbalanced 09:23 they're way too nasty for D:2 09:23 its the themed rooms code generating a spider room. unnethack and evilhack had that issue and corrected it 09:23 ah okay 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Pri Hum Mal Law), 5982 points, T:6676, quit 09:23 for vanilla its different since it uses lua now for dungeon generation 09:23 but yeah i think aosdict had submitted a PR to address it. cant remember 09:23 need to look 09:23 alright fair 09:24 im scared of 3.7 now 09:24 but it's great for the DevTeam that you have it on hdf 09:24 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/344 09:24 ^ that 09:24 really useful for testing it before they make the official release 09:25 or stable release w/e 09:25 <{Demo}2> its a feature 09:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 20 points, T:313, killed by an electric shock 09:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 blue dragon scale mail", on T:18071 09:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:41 nabru, is slex a good game for anarcho-syndicalist wannabe revolutionaries? 09:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2503 points, T:4339, killed by a giant mosquito 09:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +1 Shield of the Resolute Heart", on T:26261 09:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:18788 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:44157 09:46 aoei: I don't know, really 09:46 You'd have to ask Amy 09:47 okay 09:47 anarcho-syndicalist wannabe revolutionaries are typically unemployed 09:47 will do 09:47 whereas slex 'works as intended' 09:47 gottem 09:47 hahahahahah 09:47 hahahahahaha 09:47 lol'd in rl 09:47 amateurhour, they are unemployed :^) 09:48 so am I maybe I should be an anarcho-syndicalist wannabe revolutionary too 09:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:44171 09:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:44177 09:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:44178 10:05 is that the eh blessed geno behaviour? 10:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide fedora of warning", on T:44181 10:08 yes, you can't wipe out all monsters of a class with blessed geno 10:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 636 points, T:1294, killed by a kitten 10:10 seems reasonable 10:10 I wonder if that means b?oGeno on your race only is a chance to accidentally self-geno :> 10:12 I try a lot for SCIENCE but not that ;-) 10:12 hehehe 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Sam Hum Fem Law), 451 points, T:973, killed by a death ray 10:13 jesus mobe im too sleepy today 10:13 and there's a wasp flying around my desk AGAIN 10:13 ffs 10:13 stupid creatures 10:13 get out of my room 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3358 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3422 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3460 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a poisoned dart on an altar, on T:3488 10:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:25446 10:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:21028 10:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:21031 10:53 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:21526 11:03 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:19566 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3268 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh4] Lurien (hackedhead) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 34462 points, T:3396, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed plaxcaster's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:4375 11:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:09 aoei: smash that like and subscribe button to support the PR - erm, give it a thumbs up 11:09 oh wait, you did already 11:10 ^.^ 11:11 just doing my bit for the community you know 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3720 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3741 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a perforated amulet named Okthree on an altar, on T:3756 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "testing", on T:3777 11:16 errrmahgerd mosquito stop biting my head 11:17 K2, :( 11:17 so itchy 11:18 they're such bastards 11:18 i know if i leave it alone it wont be itchy anymore but its sooooooo itchy 11:18 never have I been bitten by so many as in Thailand though 11:18 * K2 itches 11:18 also Thai mosquitoes are EVIL 11:18 they are 11:18 also the ones in southern US 11:18 sound like birds flying 11:18 one time I couldn't sleep for how itchy I was 11:19 K2, this one californian dude I met in Thailand said the Cali ones were even worse than the Thai ones 11:19 heh 11:19 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 63532 points, T:14935, killed by a mountain centaur 11:21 K2: is ctrl+f (being able to search for objects you remember seeing on the ground across all levels) something you'd find a useful feature? I'm considering writing a patch for it 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3879 11:23 if its someone everyone wants, perhaps. i havent ever seen anyone ask for it 11:24 I see 11:24 basically I want to avoid the problem I created earlier with getobj 11:25 where I created a feature that ended up never getting any traction in mainstream 11:25 and worse, the featured touched code all over the place, leaving variants that did add it with constant painful merge conflicts 11:26 this thing is a bit different in that it would touch almost no code at all, but I still don't want to spend time on something nobody would use anyway 11:30 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Shelob, on T:22777 11:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Lungorthin, on T:23047 11:39 well we could try it and see maybe 11:39 I wouldn't mind that feature, FIQ 11:41 it's one of the most vaunted features of fiqhack 11:41 I always thought it was unworkable in vanilla since you have to read all the other levels into memory and vanilla has a model of only one level in memory at a time, but maybe there's a way 11:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Bin Hum Mal Non) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:61186 11:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:23057 11:44 aosdict: I thought so as well 11:46 aosdict: I actually talked about this feature yesterday in the #dcss discord channel, and ctrl+f came up. I mentioned that I had implemented it in fiqhack but thought it was unfeasible to add in NH3 due to the whole on-level-in-memory thing 11:46 But it turns out that dcss works with the same restrictions, yet has ctrl+f 11:46 So it's clearly possible 11:47 DCSS does it (as FIQ knows) by having an "excursion" facility that temporarily loads another level in place of the current one; but without that I guess it would be easier to cache the state of known objects when leaving a level. 11:48 Pinkbeast: I think it might be better to do it the dcss way, because the latter would defeat the entire purpose of only having one level in memory at once 11:48 That said, Ctrl-F would be good; but what makes it _really_ good in DCSS is the trifecta of autoexplore making sure you _see_ all the objects, Ctrl-F knowing where they are, and intralevel travel being able to take you to them. The whole is much greater than the sum of the parts. 11:49 It would also allow other features in the future, such as NitroHack-style overview 11:49 (the ability to look at other levels in the overview) 11:49 I submit a) you wouldn't be using a whole levelsworth of memory to remember the objects and b) saving NetHack level sized lumps of memory is entirely moot now 11:49 Pinkbeast: right, it's somewhat moot 11:50 but still, see "other features in the future" 11:50 off-level overview, things like FIQHack's scrolls of recall, is just 2 examples 11:50 and I'm sure there's other things you could do 11:50 Let me clarify; I do agree excursions would be better, but I also think much harder to implement and (if DCSS is any guide) a rich vein of bugs to mine. 11:51 what kind of bugs 11:51 I wonder what kind of bugs, if any, ctrl-f would have 11:51 [hdf-us] [slex] richards (Act Liz Mal Law) averted death, on T:1300 11:52 one interesting thing about when I implemented ctrl-f myself in fiqhack is that I anticipated painful weeks of debugging things 11:52 and yet... there wasn't 11:52 oh sure, it wasn't like everything worked perfectly on the first try 11:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:52 [hdf-us] [slex] richards (Act Liz Mal Law) averted death, on T:1308 11:52 but it was a surprisingly painless implementation 11:53 and I spent maybe 2-3 full days at most ironing out all bugs 11:53 and probably even less 11:53 [hdf-us] [slex] richards (Act Liz Mal Law) averted death, on T:1333 11:54 the exact opposite happened with magic chests 11:54 I expected it to be a simple task 11:54 yet fiqhack still has bugs with it 11:54 I think the reason for it was the utterly idiotic way I went about implementing it 11:55 instead of just having its own container code, I just reused the existing one and added a sync_magic_chests() function that would replicate its content in all other chests 11:55 this was an endless source of bugs 11:55 and to this day, timers still don't like magic chests 11:55 it's something I need to investigate at some point 12:05 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Ele Ill Fem Cha), 1537 points, T:774, killed by a monster (lead troll) 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 130 points, T:237, killed by a sewer rat 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:7 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:11, killed by a water demon 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 602 points, T:914, killed by a werejackal 12:09 I wonder why valkyries were *chaotic* in 3.0 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:35117 12:12 aosdict: btw, as a side effect if I were to add ctrl+f, I could add the "Things that are here" thing from NH4 in the curses sidebar :P 12:12 the only reason I didn't in vanilla is due to it leaking information 12:13 but that's for if ctrl+f was ever implemented in vanilla 12:13 and a seperate thing 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:921 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1054 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2183 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:2218 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:27904 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27905 12:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed dvorkian's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2572 12:38 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 12:50 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 13:01 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3004 13:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed The Good Neighbor, on T:26698 13:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:03 <{Demo}2> good fences make good neighbors 13:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:26714 13:05 aoei: if you're anything extraordinary then slex is exactly the right kind of game for you :D (but if you're ordinary, you should give it a shot anyway, hahaha!) 13:05 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-08-17 15:14 EDT: t feels like hurting this monster in melee was a bad idea. You kill the little femmy! (when zapping wand of fire at it) 13:05 amateurhour: yeah, known little bug, IIRC I already fixed it for the next version 13:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 5536 points, T:3143, killed by a giant beetle 13:19