00:00 maybe i polymorphed it 00:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "fixed tinning kit", on T:17263 00:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 godhands", on T:17267 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:33640 00:13 turn 64412 i hit with weapon. I wonder what it was 00:14 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:68818 00:15 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 15269 points, T:10848, killed by a giant zombie 00:15 I forgot all my full healing potions i had stashed RIGHT THERE on DL 1 00:15 i am SCREWED 00:15 <@ShivanHunter> D: 00:15 <@ShivanHunter> uh oh 00:16 i have 6 00:16 lol 00:17 i don't even care if i splat. i wanted the weaponelss conduct oh well 00:17 i panicked and didn't do all the prep i wanted. and i had left foood, potions etc. right on dl 1 and forgot 00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:68969 00:23 <@ShivanHunter> looking at your ttyrec... there was a troll that followed you through several levelports and you took it out before going on. But I can't tell what you had wielded because termplay is ass 00:24 it's all good 00:24 <@ShivanHunter> Astral plane hype! :D 00:24 at least I didn't do it with a pickaxe 00:24 played the whole game pickaxeless 00:24 what a waste 00:24 <@ShivanHunter> heh 00:29 <@ShivanHunter> will those dragons use their breath attack on things? 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:69056 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:69111 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:69123 00:31 <@ShivanHunter> lol so many dragons :D 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5541680 points, T:69125, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1596571101.evil.html 00:33 <@ShivanHunter> Go team @! 00:33 <@riker> :( I was promised a splat rebatela 00:33 lol 00:33 sorry to dissapoint 00:33 i really tried there at the end, forgetting my wonderful stash on DL 1 00:33 <@riker> you got my hopes up and everything 00:34 god did i get the 3rd score.. I really don't want the top 3. So embarrassing lol 00:34 we all know those are the bottom scores 00:34 i couldn't care less about score honestly 00:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed drunkmonkey's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2691 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1075 00:42 oh sweet. 5th place. phew 00:42 doesn't look so bad :) 00:43 <@ShivanHunter> lol 00:44 congrats rebatela! 00:46 hey thanks man! 00:47 now i have to play monk again and get the conduct 00:47 i had weaponles until like 65k turns or something dumb 00:47 thinking about chaotic giant monk 00:48 and shivanhunter: there would have been many more dragons, but i had to gtfo out of that dungeon 00:48 8x generation is nuts 00:52 looks like you're the only one who has gotten weaponless k2? i didn't look all that hard 00:52 i was SURE I had it this game if i ascended 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 998 points, T:2506, killed by a rothe 01:00 i think so 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4644 points, T:2893, killed by Yeenoghu 01:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:05 k2: thanks for chatting with me, bud. I feel a lot better 01:07 -!- brendon__ has joined #hardfought 01:07 np 01:09 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:11 -!- brendon__ has quit [Client Quit] 01:11 -!- brendon__ has joined #hardfought 01:18 ais523: what was the trouble with white bg? is it fixed yet in modern versions? ← there are terminals on which a white background entirely eats the cursor 01:19 ais523: on balancing options and weighing whether more people will customize it to better/worse than the default: better and worse are subjective ← the problem is people customizing options to make it worse from their own point of view, which sounds impossible but does in fact happen regularly as it's hard to know what any given option will do or which option produced the effect you're seeing 01:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:20065 01:20 I can't remember, does NH4 semantic tiling keep the original foreground color of an item/monster when assigning it a semantic background? ← yes (except foreground = background gives black foreground); the backgrounds are chosen to try to minimize garishness effects but it can't be eliminated entirely 01:27 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 6854 points, T:6668, killed by a dust vortex 01:28 FIQ: it crosses my mind that the cursor-eating problem could be fixed by allowing for a simulated/fake cursor rather than using the terminal's, but that would be generally less efficient 01:28 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 01:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:21711 01:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 758540 points, T:22171, killed by an arcadian avenger 01:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2631 02:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3231 points, T:3008, killed by an invisible hallucinogen-distorted raven 02:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Fem Neu), 50294 points, T:6613, killed by a human mummy 02:55 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 02:56 how do you know if a pet pseudodragon is hungry? 02:59 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:59 can you #chat to it ? 02:59 thats a guess 02:59 also, can you get rid of cursed weapons and armor and jewelry by burning them? 02:59 in the forge 02:59 stethoscope obviously , but you probably don't have one yet 02:59 i avoid furges so i dunno 02:59 you can do somethign with weapons with them 03:00 I know you can chat to dogs and horses and find out how they are doing 03:00 yeah, I guess if the metal weapon is damaged you can fix it in the forge 03:00 not sure about metal armor or wooden items 03:02 and no, I can't chat to the pseudodragon. It doesn't respond. 03:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kokushu, on T:37216 03:02 If it tries to eat you, it's hungry. 03:02 or in conflict 03:02 True. 03:03 or confused 03:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed bugsniper the giant zombie, and former Thaumaturge, on T:2130 03:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:3594 03:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2500 03:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law), 2427 points, T:2904, killed by a housecat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:21 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:26 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "xyzzy", on T:5038 03:39 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:40 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:06 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:15 how does sokoban work in evilhack? do you pick a prize and the others disappear? 04:17 nevermind, Ill just read the wiki 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:9446 04:21 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:22 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5004 04:26 -!- j6p has joined #hardfought 04:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:5337 04:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) was given Frost Brand, on T:2441 04:44 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 545 points, T:959, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 04:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha), 15068 points, T:2468, killed by a gnome 04:47 rebatela I see you ascended! Congrats! 04:48 oh just left 04:49 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6518 04:53 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6601 04:54 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6638 04:59 congrats rebatela on the ascension! 05:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mon Bat Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1255 05:05 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:05 hey thanks ! 05:05 :0 05:05 :) 05:06 i made a lot of mistakes at the end, but it all worked out 05:06 somehow broke weaponless. I was pissed, but whatever. It gives me an excuse to play monk again ;) 05:06 !who 05:06 K2: [hdf-us] ssnufd [nh370] lapis [dnh] Alasnuyo [dnh] | [hdf-eu] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] drunkmonkey [nh370] 05:07 pickaxe-less I can't imagine ;-) 05:07 i have no idea what happened 05:08 yeah that sucks... 05:08 i was happy I didn't get the 3rd highest score too :). I didn't want to have 1,2,3 05:08 heh 05:09 i overprepare. I know that. But the game is hard (for me) 05:09 EvilHack updated (all servers) 05:09 ^ bug fixes 05:09 only 69125 turns! 05:09 thx K2 05:09 less turns than my asc 05:10 game is supposed to be hard, that's the fun 05:10 for sure 05:10 I was telling k2, I like evilhack because it still feels a lot like vanilla... Like i'm playing nethack, but it's hard 05:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1500 points, T:5923, killed by an ape, while frozen by a potion 05:11 same for me! 05:12 <@ShivanHunter> same ^ 05:12 <@ShivanHunter> I love that it starts hard and STAYS hard rather than devolving into unbearable tedium post-Castle 05:12 right 05:15 thanks guys 05:15 ooof i stayed up WAY too late 05:15 i'm still up :( 05:15 gnite 05:15 <@ShivanHunter> o/ 05:15 sleep well :-) 05:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:20 hmmm giant or human again... 05:20 no shirt kinda sucks but giants are so much fun 05:20 <@ShivanHunter> illithid ;) ;) ;) 05:21 i know.. i want to get a weaponless in though 05:21 <@ShivanHunter> actually illithid monk sounds like a real travesty tbh 05:21 I think there is now giant armor in the game or something? 05:21 really? 05:21 still wouldn't work for monk 05:21 oh true 05:21 monks can't hit with armor in evil 05:21 <@ShivanHunter> would the mind flayer attack count as consuming meat? 05:21 <@ShivanHunter> I know next to nothing about it 05:21 oh i don't do any of those conducts lol 05:21 we need giant shirts :-) 05:22 <@ShivanHunter> I mean for monk alignment 05:22 oh i see 05:22 <@ShivanHunter> constantly losing alignment could be an issue 05:23 in vanilla (and evil so far), the stuff you kill makes it so the alignment penalty for eating corpses never amounts to anything 05:23 maybe early early game ? 05:24 <@ShivanHunter> Hmm. Maybe... but you eat corpses once every few kills at most, and you might get multiple mind-flayer attacks (and alignment hits) per kill at worst 05:24 right. i see what you're saying 05:31 <@ShivanHunter> Ah. apparently illithids can only be wizards, priests or infidels anyway, so. 05:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:2358 05:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2381 05:35 i was thinking of elf maybe. Can't be elven monk in vanilla and those combos haven't ascended in eh 05:36 I didn't even realize I was on that chart with the giant neu monk (jilles did it as chaotic) 05:38 but aren't their strength capped or something ? 05:38 i always played human in vanilla 05:38 <@ShivanHunter> which chart? And yeah, illithids are weaksauce, max STR/CON is 10 and 12 respectively, it's horrible 05:38 the first combo ascension chart 05:39 https://nethackscoreboard.org/firstasc.eh.html 05:40 <@ShivanHunter> ah 05:40 i only noticed the chart yesterday 05:40 <@ShivanHunter> w00t, my elf wiz is on there :D 05:40 so people try to play those combos that have never ascended 05:40 nice! 05:42 I need to remember to not sacrifice elves ! 05:45 and not wear iron i guess 05:46 <@ShivanHunter> ooh, nice amulet 05:50 <@ShivanHunter> D: 05:50 <@ShivanHunter> rip 05:50 wahtever 05:51 lost too much stuff 05:51 if I wasn't exhausted i would have continued 05:51 <@ShivanHunter> gnomish wizards are nasty in evilhack 05:51 yeah 05:51 especially like that DL1 in the mines 05:51 in minetown i expect them, so I drop all my potions and scrolls spelbooks before I go kill them (if I don't have a container) 05:52 often on the downstair of the level above and then go back 05:52 but sometimes they stun you etc. and you can't move without hitting a priest or a shopkeeper etc. 05:53 <@ShivanHunter> yeah, on a couple occasions I've had to rethink my "do the mines right away" approach given the new stuff there 05:53 yeah... if you get that one with the mastodon etc. ? 05:53 <@ShivanHunter> ohhhhh that one killed me once 05:54 it seems to be rare ? Or maybe I just don't get it as often 05:54 <@ShivanHunter> they got out and it was horrible 05:54 sometimes you get like quadruple bones on that level 05:54 <@ShivanHunter> idk, I only got it once or twice when I was playing a while ago 05:54 it's like a zoo, but the guards will go unlock the door or something 05:55 but sometimes they are all free and there are like 3 ghosts lol 06:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5104 06:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6799 06:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:7568 06:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:7653 06:27 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:9072 06:43 permanently to lawful? 06:43 rip their game 06:43 that must be pre-quest 06:44 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:44 FIQ: technically, nethack doesn't use background colors but inverse (at least on unix/tty and that restricts the window ports abilities). there are several terminals that have issues with bright colors and inverse to generate background colors, they just show the non bright colors instead. like some have issues with bold black on black. 06:45 FIQ: but nowadays, that wouldn't be an issue, if you go with 256 colors. of course vanilla's color management doesn't support background colors with non-black foreground colors yet 06:46 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:11035 06:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Law), 26999 points, T:11057, killed by a troll 06:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1927 points, T:1355, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:01 -!- brendon__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1340 07:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2511 07:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:22 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Ang Fem Cha), 39074 points, T:5452, quit 07:30 -!- Brendon__ has joined #hardfought 07:31 -!- Brendon__ has left #hardfought 07:31 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 07:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) stole 300 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Matagami's general store, on T:3589 07:32 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 6522 points, T:3618, killed by a watch captain 07:37 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Ang Fem Cha), 2557 points, T:1189, killed by a monster (giant crab) 07:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:1615 07:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1856 points, T:2902, killed by a pony, while reading a book 07:54 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Ang Fem Cha) killed the ghost of 386DX, the former Chosen for Reaping, on T:1915 07:57 !tell AntiGulp when pulling in 047f1ca note that splice may have additional cases that xnh lacks due to things like silver golems. Those might be handled natively already? I hope so. 07:57 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 07:58 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] sigdanger (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 50 points, T:259, killed by a rabbit 08:04 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Ang Fem Cha), 5916 points, T:2623, killed by a disintegration beam 08:05 <@bubbles> @bhaak thanks I made a pr to dnh with your fast travel glyph rememnering code 08:05 <@bubbles> ❤️ 08:11 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Ang Fem Cha), 359 points, T:401, killed by a monster (flesh golem) 08:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] sigdanger (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a jackal 08:17 nice one bubbles 08:18 [hdf-us] [slshm] sigdanger (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 24 points, T:37, killed by a newt 08:18 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:18 could it be worth stealing for slex Amy? 08:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] sigdanger (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 175 points, T:19, killed by a sewer rat 08:21 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 08:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] sigdanger (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 0 points, T:2, zapped herself with a spell 08:31 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] sigdanger (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 44 points, T:3, killed by a death ray 08:35 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 9333 points, T:3550, quit 08:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] sigdanger (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 0 points, T:9, killed by a jackal 08:39 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] sigdanger (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 0 points, T:6, killed by a rabbit 08:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Cookiedough (Brd Inc Mal Cha) was given the Singing Sword, on T:4786 08:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Cookiedough (Brd Inc Mal Cha), 29729 points, T:5448, killed by an Uruk-hai 08:52 <@bubbles> ooohhh fuck 08:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3536 08:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3717 08:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3815 08:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2683 points, T:3956, killed by a hill orc called Rukaiun of Aihaiuthos, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 625 points, T:1175, killed by a gas spore's explosion 09:14 @bubbles cool 09:31 YANI: Because green slime burns so readily, there should be some way for you to fuel an oil lamp with a glob of it. 09:49 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 144 points, T:463, killed by a fox 09:49 that was a shit one anyway. 09:51 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 23533 points, T:9906, killed by an elven arrow 09:53 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 28 points, T:188, killed by a jackal 09:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:56 amateurhour: could what be worth stealing for slex? 09:56 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 144 points, T:644, killed by a grid bug 09:57 autotravelling to stairs if the glyph is obscured in any way 09:57 fox, jackal, grid bug... Might have to do newt next. 09:57 (or missing I presume) 09:57 well the tile is highlighted red if it's obscured (and if it becomes a blank space due to traps in soko, you can mark it by dropping an item there) 09:58 yeah but specifically being able to do _< 09:58 from unnethack, ported to dnh in this PR: https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/pull/1082 09:59 uhh that looks complicated... I'm happy with the way it works currently 09:59 I'm not :| 09:59 lol 09:59 my stairs keep being yeeted away from me and monsters keep picking up the item on them 10:01 3.4.3 variants scrambling to implement stuff that's been in vanilla for years, smh my head 10:01 though I wonder, why was it ever based on remembered glyph and not the actual terrain? 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed bag of holding", on T:22343 10:02 imagine having the wing yellow changer in slex and trying to quicktravel to a specific dungeon feature with that :D 10:02 like, why couldn't it be if (levl[ustairs.x][ustairs.y].seenv) select_stairs(); else pline("Can't find dungeon feature '<'"); 10:02 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha), 322 points, T:765, killed by a goblin 10:03 oh yeah and that 10:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 819 points, T:1489, killed by a bat 10:05 btw what does learning forbidden knowledge do again, stop me from praying for 100k turns? 10:05 increase divine anger by 15 (that does not time out, you need to actually mollify your god if you want to be able to pray again) 10:06 ah right, no prayer for me then lol 10:07 is that still a sokosolver run, or only specialist? 10:07 both 10:08 sometimes you get shafted and the maps aren't premapped 10:08 which really sucks for this floor 10:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 115 points, T:371, killed by a giant spider 10:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1237614 points, T:32465, killed by a hellfire colossus 10:12 YANI: Potion of marksmanship, it gives you a temporary +10 increase in accuracy for ranged combat 10:12 heh, you waste a scroll of cure for a slime trap? could just trigger one of the many fire traps on that level 10:12 forgot about that 10:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Mon Clk Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:576 10:18 by the way amateurhour, I was wondering, do you also use spells in slex sometimes? 10:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 649 points, T:1825, killed by a coyote 10:22 I did at first, but I've been prioritising training martial arts 10:22 because it takes forever to level it up 10:22 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received Giantslayer from The Lady, on T:9100 10:22 huh? that should normally train automatically just by playing the game normally because monks are generally "if it moves, punch it" 10:22 so grinding that then figuring out spellcasting later if I manage to get the right robe is current plan 10:23 yeah but for some reason martial arts takes like a year to get to grandmaster in slex, maybe it did in slash'em too 10:23 I managed to get it in one of my 60k turns games using only marts to kill things 10:23 it does take a while but slex is a long enough game that you will eventually reach it 10:24 20 for basic, 160 for skilled, 540 for expert, 1280 for master and 2500 for grand master 10:24 got master this time, idk if rates are different because spirit vs angel 10:24 should be the same I think? 10:24 all spirit hits will be martial arts, whereas angel has 3 extra not-marts hits 10:24 @le?spirit 10:24 spirit (8) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 9 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon slow | Alignment: -5 | Flags: herbivore, flies, phases, breathless, unsolid, undead, stalker, vegan 10:25 yeah of course if the hit wasn't a weapon attack then it doesn't train the skill, so if your angel lands a lot of hits with those other two attacks then getting martial arts up probably takes longer 10:25 but the general rate of "one martial arts hit = 1 point of skill training" is the same for both 10:26 are you suggesting I should be spellcasting? 10:26 well yes, if you have useful spells then it'd be worthwile IMHO 10:27 ugh but it seems you don't really; protection is forgotten and pet syringe isn't that great, plus you probably don't have chaos spell skill anyway 10:27 I've not yet ever found the spellcasting robe 10:27 and I know protection kinda sucks because you have to re-cast it to keep being under its effect, but upping the skill could eventually let you cast higher-level protection spells 10:28 eh, I'd very definitely not go "spellcasting robe or I won't cast", because you might be waiting forever for that robe to show up and spells aren't nearly as impossible to cast in slex compared to vanilla even if you wear metal 10:28 also, at XL15 many spells become considerably easier to cast 10:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 609 points, T:979, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a potion 10:28 I know, but just pointing out that they're rather rare 10:29 well yeah, they are 10:29 monks get a larger than usual boost from them if I recall correctly 10:31 in slex, having high spell memory (usually achieved by constantly casting the same spell) also makes that particular spell easier to cast, so just because the spell starts out at 30% fail doesn't mean it can't ever get better 10:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Mon Clk Fem Neu), 20283 points, T:3336, killed by a triton, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:36 honestly don't recognise most of the special floors, lol 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 1359 points, T:1446, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bugbear 10:37 this one looks like a town with the walls replaced by highways 10:37 could be a minetown variant actually 10:37 what do highways actually do? 10:37 I stood on a highway trap at one point which created some 10:37 everyone who is on a highway tile moves faster (both players and monsters, and both movement and other actions) 10:37 so I imagine they do something bad 10:37 oh 10:37 terrain-altering traps just create a bunch of tiles of the specified terrain, which may be good or bad or sometimes both 10:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Pri Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:575 10:45 !lastgame dnh xor 10:45 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xor/dnethack/dumplog/1596384028.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xor/dnethack/dumplog/1596205287.dnh.txt 10:51 Amy what's the range on those spells that add loads of debuffs? 10:51 uhh which ones are they? 10:51 the ones where you hear something then get a random negative status 10:51 sometimes it's in like turkish or something 10:51 oh you mean the "Wouwou." taunt? about 8 squares and also goes through walls 10:52 that reminds me, last night I dreamed that I had a tame monster with such taunts and it kept taunting me despite being tame! thankfully that doesn't actually happen :P 10:52 sounds similar to a thing that happened in evilhack 10:53 you could tame a monster that could summon insects/nasties(?) and it would summon them around you and they'd be hostile 10:53 oh, monsters casting summon nasties when tame, with the nasties being hostile? 10:53 lol ninjad 10:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Pri Inc Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased garnet rod", on T:1455 10:53 but hey, sometimes best friends mock eachother 10:54 so maybe their taunts were intended in good fun 10:58 gdi typo 10:58 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:13244 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 606 points, T:713, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant leech 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4995 11:04 made a right dog's dinner of this puzzle 11:05 damn, I really hate ill stalks 11:06 you playing atm? 11:06 yeah 11:06 on Statonir's lair and he's kicking my butt 11:07 gaaaaaaaaaah 11:07 [hdf-eu] [slex] Donald Trump (AmyBSOD) (Pol Tro Mal Cha) averted death, on T:49122 11:08 finally that ill stalk fucker is dead! 11:08 but of course I lost some levels due to troll lifesaving again 11:09 fucking Statonir, man 11:09 who the hell designed such a demon lord anyway 11:10 I believe the elves refer to them as Larien 11:11 really? well if I get that "Larien" person, she'll receive a beating, that's for sure :P 11:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Tensa Zangetsu, on T:15787 11:13 grrrrrrr, another ill stalk 11:14 the coward, he keeps warping to the stair and I don't know where that is! 11:14 working as intended 11:15 HRRRRRRRRRGH 11:15 this level is fucking unplayable :P hopefully you don't ever encounter Statonir's lair, he's an unholy pain in the butt to deal with 11:16 that's slex :^) working as intended :^) glad you're enjoying the game :^) 11:16 tbh I'm sure I'll see the lair but not them as playing specialist 11:16 gonna peek and see what it looks like 11:17 and now I triggered a trap that surrounded me with a dozen solvejgs and jennifers and farting gas clouds and stuff... on a no-teleport level *groan* 11:17 what in the fresh hell is that level 11:17 are those all walls? 11:17 yeah, undiggable too 11:17 ...what 11:17 oh, I guess your terminal has a graphics mode that renders floor as walls too 11:17 if you hit s a few times it may fix itself, but that doesn't always work 11:18 oh 11:18 yea 11:18 does it look normal now? I can switch to another graphics mode for a bit to show you what it looks like 11:18 it's fine I see now 11:18 basically, a maze with rooms, except that the walls cannot be dug and you cannot tele 11:19 @le?Statonir 11:19 Statonir (&) | Lvl: 75 | Diff: 75 | Spd: 25 | Res: fire sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: -10 | Attacks: 7d7 hug cursed-unicorn-horn, 7d7 hug cursed-unicorn-horn, 7d7 hug cursed-unicorn-horn, 7d7 gaze cursed-unicorn-horn, 7d7 passive cursed-unicorn-horn, 1d1 tentacle drain int | Alignment: -20 | Flags: omnivore, breathless, mindless, thick hide, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly, 11:19 and yeah if you get the lair as a random specialist level, he's replaced with a random & 11:19 but you can still encounter his actual lair in Gehennom 11:19 got a boss visor? 11:20 he doesn't move at all but those ranged cursedunicornhorn attacks are ultra annoying 11:20 good idea, but I don't 11:20 wand of detect monsters? 11:20 have a suspicion where the stair is though, I've seen a non-moving 5 to the west earlier 11:21 now I have to clear out those farting girls though 11:21 bhaak: I think terminals might actually have more trouble with inverse than background color 11:21 because some doesn't handle darkgray inverse well 11:21 that said, I can just zap digging downwards (at least the level isn't hardfloor as well) 11:21 an issue that doesn't exist with background colors 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 346 points, T:937, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat 11:21 Background colors only work realibly with the dark colors so you have a smaller set of background colors than foreground ones unless 256color 11:22 But it's still better than reverse which limits colors alltogether to the dark ones for some terminals, and may not work at all for darkgray 11:23 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Mon Chn Mal Law), 347 points, T:1395, killed by a small mimic 11:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2819 points, T:5433, killed by a kobold mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:26 @le?birsen 11:26