00:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 4142 points, T:2315, killed by a giant beetle 00:07 aosdict: lava access could be #dip to get fire brand 00:09 <@riker> 🤔 00:12 just need fireproof wwboots! 00:13 and a base weapon, and a lava tile. no problem! 00:13 <@riker> "e - a newt corpse named Fire Brand" 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4351 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4365 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4459 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 daggers on an altar, on T:4478 00:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4907 00:27 are there any variants that do away with 18/xx str? 00:27 that D&D system is outdated by about 3 decades 00:37 Many ditch the AD&D armor class system, but I'm not sure 00:42 right, nh4+friends counts up from zero, instead of counting down from 10 into the negatives. but you can switch it back 00:42 their system makes more sense, unfortunately we all learned the weirder system and got used to it 😄 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Peregrinatrix, on T:10084 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:59804 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:59805 01:10 AC of negative just makes sense to me 01:11 anything else is heresy 01:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:11218 01:18 -!- cebolla is now known as spicycat 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:11980 01:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2979 01:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:40773 01:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:40777 01:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14283 01:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2165 points, T:2189, killed by an orc zombie 02:02 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08 <@ShivanHunter> wait, lava can generate in shops? Outside of like, SLEX and Evilhack? 02:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 blue dragon scale mail", on T:12535 02:15 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 02:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1137 points, T:2639, killed by a giant ant 02:19 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Death-Spear of Vhaerun, on T:15623 02:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] OOTCrobin (Bar Hum Fem Neu) murdered Elfana, her faithful little dog, on T:738 02:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 217 points, T:459, killed by a wand 02:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) averted death, on T:16989 02:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 97276 points, T:17226, killed by a quaton, while praying 02:54 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Mal Law), 164 points, T:263, killed by a small mimic 02:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:17498 02:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:13186 03:01 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Mal Cha), 220 points, T:533, killed by a sewer rat 03:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 218 points, T:242, killed by a jackal 03:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Dro Fem Cha), 48 points, T:291, killed by a fox 03:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:10 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:13 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 03:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Dro Fem Cha), 11281 points, T:31, escaped 03:13 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 03:15 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:17 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:22 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:22 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3020 03:35 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:35 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:38 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:38 {Demo}: ah I see you finally reached enlightenment! :D all the variantish things in 3.7 jump so blatantly into one's face, I was wondering how I could be the only person who realized it. 03:43 actually, I wish that 3.7 would, if it already tries to pull all kinds of stuff from variants, also implement the convict role. 04:02 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 16 points, T:23, killed by a fox 04:19 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 875 points, T:1716, killed by a gnome lord 04:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Fem Una) killed the Oracle, on T:18139 04:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1701 04:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4358 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4387 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:4437 04:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4545 04:54 LarienTelrunya: pff, Junethack called everything a variant before it was cool :-} 04:54 lol, but unnethack is not a variant, unnethack is the true vanilla :P 04:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2924 points, T:5841, killed by a rothe 05:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Fem Una) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:18420 05:22 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:22 is taking things from variants seen as a bad thing or something? 05:22 or if a variant makes a really nice QoL change is vanilla meant to be forbidden from doing the same 05:24 at least to me it looks like "vanilla" is implementing everything these days, as long as it comes from unnethack or certain other "popular" variants 05:24 and that causes vanilla to lose its pureness, i.e. feels like you're playing just another variant, but apparently that's just me 05:25 with all the stuff in 3.7, it's impossible to play a version without all the additional "Schnickschnack", unless you choose 3.4.3 05:29 Or there is 3.6. I hate going back to the 3.4.3 interface these days. 05:30 huh, I see nothing wrong with 3.4.3's interface 05:31 You're used to it. I am used to the 3.6 way of doing things now. 05:32 -!- talkingleaf has joined #hardfought 05:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Mal Law), 80287 points, T:11783, killed by a soldier ant 05:33 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Client Quit] 05:33 -!- talkingleaf has joined #hardfought 05:33 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Client Quit] 05:34 ^ 05:41 BTW +1 to "implement the convict role" for 3.7 :-) 05:41 :) 05:41 love that role 05:41 it feels almost like a vanilla feature to me, so it might as well be in vanilla 05:42 agreed 05:44 -!- j6p has joined #hardfought 05:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 blue dragon scale mail", on T:1761 05:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2369 06:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 406 points, T:870, killed by a crossbow bolt 06:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Elf Fem Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:4016 06:15 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 06:19 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 474 points, T:1269, killed by a newt, while reading a book 06:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:5548 06:57 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:59 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 07:04 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:04 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pir Inc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:25342 08:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Fem Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:20174 08:02 nice one mobileuser 08:04 except now I lost reflection because the amulet was silver. at least wand of death won't kill me (demon form) 08:15 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 08:20 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:32465 08:24 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 26762 points, T:1343, killed by a wererat 08:31 Moloch screws you out of silver amulets now? 08:31 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 25388 points, T:1699, killed by a mind flayer 08:33 if you get crowned as an infidel you turn into a demon 08:33 and they're highly averse to silver 08:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Elf Fem Cha), 67738 points, T:7866, killed by a nightgaunt, while being tickled to death 08:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:24, killed by a jackal, while reading a book 08:38 !tell LarienTelrunya I don't understand something about how illumination is meant to work, saved at a place to show you later 08:38 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, amateurhour. 08:38 !who 08:38 K2: [hdf-us] post163 [nh370] Disruptor [dnh] Alasnuyo [dnh] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:40 xNetHack updated (all servers) 08:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Dro Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:2355 08:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Dro Mal Neu), 2732 points, T:2871, killed by a gnome lord 08:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Oona, on T:35070 08:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Clk Mal Neu), 2676 points, T:2459, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hobgoblin 09:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 130 points, T:901, killed by a grid bug 09:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 24 points, T:119, killed by a grid bug 09:13 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Val Swn Fem Neu), 36855 points, T:9692, killed by a chiropteran mummy 09:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2264 09:16 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:16 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 09:16 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3937 09:17 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a copper pentagonal amulet on an altar, on T:4064 09:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Mal Law), 590 points, T:2249, killed by an iguana 09:24 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4626 09:28 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2534 points, T:5071, killed by a bear 09:28 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 09:29 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 27 points, T:339, killed by a jackal 09:33 -!- asdfasdf has joined #hardfought 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Ith Mal Una), 18667 points, T:10262, petrified by a cockatrice 09:34 why cant i give the priest of the unknown god Limited Moon 09:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vis' ghost, the former Digger, on T:2464 09:36 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1348 09:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2051 points, T:2743, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:37 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 594 points, T:1532, killed by a small mimic 09:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:5268 09:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:38207 09:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38335 09:56 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 570 points, T:1606, killed by a garter snake 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:43787 09:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10597 10:03 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 658 points, T:1656, killed by a parrot 10:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:38637 10:16 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 10:20 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3868 10:21 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8005 10:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 blue dragon scale mail", on T:12858 10:33 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5994 10:34 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6048 10:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] xor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1793 10:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:14144 10:44 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4849 points, T:6815, killed by a mumak 10:49 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1625 10:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10802 10:57 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a giant fly corpse on an altar of The Lady, on T:3108 10:57 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1454 points, T:3125, killed by a magic missile 10:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:11472 11:00 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 11:04 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 156 points, T:711, killed by a small mimic 11:06 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 11:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Daemon, on T:41098 11:17 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 11:18 [hdf-au] [spl] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Warden Arianna, on T:23184 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered Cat, his faithful purple worm, on T:38089 11:25 -!- qt_ has quit [Quit: qt_] 11:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:41286 11:28 [hdf-au] [spl] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23186 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:14963 11:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:15386 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] sflicht (Inf Orc Mal Una), 344 points, T:877, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 11:41 Hmm does iron ball of liberation confer displacement in splice? 11:42 I picked it up while wearing a cloak of displacement, then took off the cloak, and got: You feel that monsters no longer have difficulty pinpointing your location. 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] sflicht (Inf Ith Mal Una), 733 points, T:1706, killed by a hobbit zombie 11:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:18729 11:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Inc Fem Neu) averted death, on T:34546 11:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Inc Fem Neu), 3435582 points, T:34548, quit 11:51 Does it anywhere? 11:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 godhands", on T:16128 11:53 Tangles: what? you took off the displacement and got the "lost displacement" message, so what are you confused about? 11:54 you expected the ball to confer it? 11:54 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1354 points, T:3744, killed by a planar pirate 11:54 Apparently it does in UnNetHack. 11:55 oh interesting, now I see 11:56 The wiki says it does, but that would be specifically for unnethack. Hence my question about if it does in splice. 11:57 try dropping your ball (heh) and picking it back up 11:58 I'm trying to source-dive it, but I've never been very good at reading the definitions in artilist.h 11:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 engagement ring", on T:75186 11:59 alright, time to finish soko now that I have half an ascension kit. 11:59 XD 11:59 lol nice :) 12:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:16693 12:00 *sigh* i wished for an engagement ring, just my luck that that ring is a ring of hunger lol 12:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:21684 12:01 !who 12:01 FIQ: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] Grouchy [nh370] hackedhead [nh4] KrO2 [dnh] asdfasdf [dnh] Heliokopis [dnh] Som [dnh] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] lacca [nh370] xor [dnh] vimla [dnh] | [hdf-au] Tangles [spl] 12:01 asdfasdf: I saw that wish, and was hoping it was a good one for you! 12:01 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:36808 12:01 asdfasdf: why did you not wish by ability? 12:01 I guess not :/ 12:01 hackedhead wdym? 12:01 like, what's the value in wishing for an item by appearance? 12:01 because engagement ring has effect against seduction 12:02 that does not seem remotely high enough impact compared to other possible wishes 12:02 it is very high impact in dnh, very useful 12:02 well, in dnh, engagement rings are valuable because they protect against seduction attacks, and theres more monsters that can use those in ways that can seriously screw you (like one demon that can just shred your armor and instakill you, i think) 12:03 helps against some really nasty demon lords in gehennom, including Pale Night 12:03 oh, also T75K, okay. 12:03 so you're mid/late game 12:04 I guess I don't know how long avg dnh ascensions are, btu I imagine 75KT is no longer early game 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:26623 12:04 i got the wish from a throne, and most of my ascension kit is filled out, and my spirits bound also fill in most of my gaps, that was one of the few things i know i probably really need. Plus i have 1 wish remaining from the ring of wishing if i really need something else 12:04 yeah im late game, in gehenom, level 27 12:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:17032 12:05 surprised you haven't found an engagement ring by that point tbh 12:05 must've been unlucky 12:05 yeah me too tbh 12:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:17144 12:07 i kinda wanna find a source of extrinsic speed that isn't a ring, in case i press '.' by accident and lose free action and get in a situation where i need 2 rings on. i know where some blue dragon scales are if i want that, but then im afraid of disintegration, since i currently have black dragon scales 12:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:17229 12:08 i would just get boots, but i have elven boots which are conveniently hiking boots granting stealth too, and without them im encumbured 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:47599 12:11 I see 12:12 I just finished up a WoW in soko for a rogue in NH4. now sporting GDSM, ]oR, speed boots, Grayswandir, and intrinsic PR 12:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43050 12:13 so now that I feel like a badass I can die to something exceedingly dumb. 12:13 (last time this (early WoW) happened, I skipped getting PR to play with Grayswandir and ended up dying to poison spikes mere turns later.) 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:27418 12:15 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:37170 12:17 asdfasdf: oh yeah that '.' thing is exceedingly annoying. 12:17 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 12:17 On my binder run earlier in the year I just rebound the '.' key in my terminal as a hotkey to show/hide the menu-bar. 12:20 This had the dual effect of not sending '.' to the game, and shifting the whole display up/down by one line, to provide a visual cue that I'd missed a keystroke, because you have to train yourself to apply keys > to unlock chests, and use ',' to select-all in menus one page at a time, etc. 12:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:43500 12:21 Is this cheating? Maybe... Is it exposing poor game mechanics for what they are? I think so! 12:21 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:24 how would that be cheating? 12:25 ignoring the fact that this is a solitaire game, so cheating is defined as whatever bothers your conscience 12:25 hoth, i think you've mentioned that you have an rc file you're proud of 12:26 may i ask, which variants do you have that for? 12:26 not exactly. i like what i have 12:26 ah, i see 12:26 oh. well it's different for some variants, but mostly it's tuned to evilhack 12:27 the variants don't all support the same things 12:27 i am fond of the menucolors section 12:28 yeah, i noticed! espec when i like, used Tone's NH3 file to play SLASH'EM 12:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 35691 points, T:26002, killed by a troll, while sleeping 12:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:18436 12:29 slash'em is one of the few variants i don't play except in june 12:29 i guess i really don't play any variants except evilhack and grunthack 12:30 yknow, i bet antigulp has a good slashem rc file 12:30 tangles has been playing slash'em recently. i'd look at his too 12:31 Tangles: rebind woes like this were a huge driving force in NH4, as I understan it 12:32 part of the whole mission of the variant was to remove the parts of the game that are just abusive user interface (like floating eyes and Strombringer) 12:32 which is to say: I don't think that's cheating at all. 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:48951 12:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Inc Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:2196 12:43 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 687 points, T:1373, killed by a system shock 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:49286 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided master liches, on T:49287 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:49287 12:49 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 816 points, T:1167, killed by a gnome lord 12:58 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Sok Fem Law), 18634 points, T:1389, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:30208 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30209 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 9373 points, T:6132, quit 13:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:2690 13:03 <@bubbles> The thing is you can't just bind . away 13:03 <@bubbles> because you need it for clockwork !! 13:03 <@bubbles> mnaybe just android who knows 13:03 <@bubbles> heh.. "bind" it away 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 10 points, T:120, killed by a goblin 13:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:43879 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 595 points, T:923, killed by a hill orc called Aiunahai of Rukogothai 13:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:43894 13:11 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Nin Ang Fem Cha), 17567 points, T:3935, quit 13:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 3033948 points, T:43895, killed by destruction of the brain and spinal cord 13:12 daaaaaamn look at that death message 13:12 that's hard core 13:14 <@bubbles> I forget what does that to you - head smash? 13:15 <@riker> invades your nervous system and cores you like an apple 13:16 your brain is cored like an apple! 13:16 Core dumped. 13:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 143 points, T:171, killed by a grid bug 13:18 Don't gnolls do that in Zap'M? 13:19 Or am I thinking of something else? 13:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 286 points, T:759, killed by a grid bug 13:22 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Nin Ang Fem Cha), 3479 points, T:1025, killed by a monster (Obox-ob) 13:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Swn Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:903 13:26 aosdict: what metal is supposed to alleviate sickness? I forgot 13:26 <@riker> copper? 13:26 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 977 points, T:890, killed by a dwarf 13:26 K2: I think you've said that very thing once beforehand with that death message several years ago haha 13:27 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 8 points, T:35, killed by a sewer rat 13:27 @riker that's what I assumed at first but wikipedia didn't seem to have anything about it when I used ctrl+f for it 13:28 <@riker> copper has anti fungal properties iirc 13:29 <@riker> in xnh too. maybe im confusing it with one that has antibacterial 13:29 silver? 13:29 not silver 13:29 I mean, maybe, but for nethack silver had other purposes 13:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:22416 13:30 according to wiki, silver can detect poison 13:30 I suppose you could have silver give a unique message when dipped into sickness :P 13:31 <@bubbles> copper is antibactiral 13:32 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver#Medicine 13:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pir Inc Mal Cha) became the Pirate King, on T:30408 13:36 FIQ: as far as xnethack is concerned, copper 13:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1356 points, T:3098, killed by a wererat 13:37 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:37 sure, silver and gold also have antibacterial properties but gold is too heavy and silver is already good enough 13:38 ok 13:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed spellbook of identify", on T:2975 13:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Swn Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased +3 Blue Dragon Scale Mail", on T:1181 13:42 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Nin Ang Fem Cha), 1598 points, T:1330, killed by a monster (Venonir) 13:42 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:23102 13:44 wearing a full suit of copper armor (or at least 5 pieces) makes you immune to sickness (each piece gives a stacking 20% chance of a sickness attack failing) 13:46 @tangles wait, how do you rebind '.'? 13:47 i already use ',' and ">" so it probably isnt that hard of a transition 13:47 FIQ I may have :) 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:1284 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1406 13:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pir Inc Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:30915 13:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3526 13:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:14802 13:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 174 points, T:475, killed by a djinni 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1025 points, T:1799, killed by a giant spider 13:55 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Nin Ang Fem Cha), 29 points, T:157, killed by a monster (the Avatar of Lolth) 13:55 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3493 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Hum Fem Law), 4702 points, T:3560, killed by a bolt of fire 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 rustproof dragonhide helm of speed", on T:51650 13:59 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Hum Fem Law), 90 points, T:295, killed by a giant mimic 14:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 322 points, T:1326, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide high boots of drain resistance", on T:51656 14:03 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 14:04 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given the Wallet of Perseus, on T:15096 14:05 <@bubbles> nice 🙂 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide t-shirt of telepathy", on T:51663 14:09 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 14:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 406 points, T:761, killed by a giant bat 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4363 points, T:4176, killed by a rope golem 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:31727 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:51689 14:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:20888 14:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) killed Graz'zt, on T:76703 14:24 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:29 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ang Fem Cha), 6088 points, T:3107, killed by a monster (watch captain) 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:32558 14:32 @le?demonoid 14:32 demonoid (&) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d4 touch physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 14:33 hey, so I'm playing dnethack and i havent found any pentegram wards, and im lategame into gehenom. should i just wish for a scroll of pentegram or something? 14:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pir Inc Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:32190 14:34 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ill Fem Cha), 2315 points, T:334, poisoned by Desiree's combat boot 14:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:17796 14:39 <@riker> are you still a binder? 14:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 helping hand", on T:21078 14:39 <@riker> a heptagram ward is better if you're wishing things, I believe 14:39 <@riker> double check the ward page asdfasd 14:40 <@riker> also if maids are revgenoable, get one and toss it cursed items until it "banishes the offending object to hell" (makes a blood penta on the floor) 14:41 thank u so much @riker, yeah im still a binder 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided disenchanters, on T:51950 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:51951 14:43 wtf krm26 14:44 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 14:45 <@riker> in evilhack they have a passive cancellation attack 14:45 <@riker> and all dragons have an engulf digestion attack I think 14:46 that's right 14:47 if you have a good ranged option and a ring of slow digestion then it's easier to handle gray dragons 14:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 142055 points, T:18628, killed by an invisible quinon 14:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Swn Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:3640 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had a trident entrusted to her by Crom, on T:52094 14:54 mobileuser there's your trident 14:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 tiny bone pick axe", on T:22130 14:58 K2 heh 14:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:22318 15:01 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 15:01 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Mon Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 353 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:31771 15:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22518 15:04 aw oh no, rip Gorvunculus 15:05 do yall think Jester's Mirth is OP or nah 15:06 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:08 <@riker> it 100% is 15:08 <@riker> when I get around to it I'll change it so that a monster can save every turn 15:08 <@riker> if the save succeeds then it stops laughing 15:08 <@riker> probably at the end of the turn so its guaranteed at least 1 or 2 15:13 neat. until then, im gonna to make like a nethacker and abuse the hell out of it lmao 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1379 15:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pir Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34297 15:19 -!- spicycat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19 oh god, im choking on a wraith corpse. it says I can no longer breathe. do i have time to take of my amulet of life saving and put on my amulet of magical breathing? 15:20 for context, i am burdened but i have extrinsic speed 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2993 15:23 or should i just pray 15:23 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:33622 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] causecovah (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 96 points, T:864, killed by a falling rock 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26028 15:37 update: i prayed. that was scary 15:39 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:38408 15:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha) averted death, on T:24329 15:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Inc Fem Cha), 1223272 points, T:24350, killed by a psychic blast 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:53890 15:47 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Mon Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 280 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34917 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3872 15:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Hum Fem Cha), 579 points, T:1259, caught herself in her own blast 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4042 15:54 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Swn Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Fixed +3 Godhands", on T:9008 15:58 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35568 15:58 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Mon Hum Fem Neu) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35569 16:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:05 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39254 16:05 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39257 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:54690 16:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3400 16:09 YES i know pentagrams now, without using a wish 16:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3818 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 2539 points, T:5515, killed by a water demon, while sleeping 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 mithril helm of speed", on T:55273 16:21 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:33274 16:23 are binders just permenantly restricted from matter spells? 16:24 the wiki page for the binder role says iris grants skill in it, but looking on the spirit page it doesnt say that, and i just bounded iris to no avail 16:26 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:28 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:30 lol @ the guessing about that dnethack death message. isn't it obvious that it was the elder priest(TM) that caused it? "your brain is cored like an apple blah blah blah GAME OVER thank you come again with your next character, thank you for playing! insert quarter to start a new character :D" 16:30 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-07-31 08:38 EDT: I don't understand something about how illumination is meant to work, saved at a place to show you later 16:31 amateurhour: uhh a screenshot would be simpler, that way we don't have to be on at exactly the same time :D 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:33289 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33290 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 fireproof T-shirt", on T:33290 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vis' ghost, the former Digger, on T:1143 16:35 amateurhour: wasted a couple minutes to look at the ttyrec, apparently what you saw is that sometimes tiles right next to you look like they were unlit, this is searching. if you search manually, they all become visually unlit and if autosearching causes you to search a particular tile next to you, that one becomes visually unlit. 16:36 in reality they're all still lit (or unlit) as they would normally be, i.e. it's only visual ;) 16:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] vimla (Ana Hlf Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:7189 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Traveler, on T:28782 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1726 points, T:2313, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:41 oh right, autosearching 16:41 thanks Amy 16:42 that was the bit I wasn't understanding, why some tiles would randomly be 'unlit' 16:42 yeah it can be confusing, admittedly; in slex, autosearching is a bit different in that it doesn't automatically search every square but just a few (randomly selected) ones per turn 16:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:24885 16:42