00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:16041 00:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3408 00:04 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 00:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 00:04 !pom 00:04 AntiGulp: Message from qt_ at 2020-07-27 09:46 EDT: Cartomancers currently see `unlabeled scrolls' as `unlabeled spell cards' when on the ground, because of text replacement in cartsay(pline.c), but when in inventory they're listed as `unlabeled scrolls' -- needs some check like https://gist.github.com/entrez/01057126a3eabdb2e860d901077d0acd 00:04 AntiGulp: The moon is at first quarter; full moon in 6 days. 00:08 <{Demo}> I've never seen the moon in nethack 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 34 points, T:383, killed by a falling rock 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:12111 00:08 My partner is playing offline and wanted to know what the phase was today 00:09 <@riker> how come your partner doesnt play hdf? 00:09 <@riker> *on hdf 00:09 saw the moon today, can confirm it is at first quarter 00:10 (Graphical tiles, plus is used to playing locally) 00:11 <@riker> ah, fair 00:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana And Fem Neu), 23363 points, T:5548, killed by a gnome king zombie 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3151 points, T:3319, killed by a kobold lord 00:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:11, killed by a jackal zombie 00:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:22 -!- talkingleaf has joined #hardfought 00:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 12 points, T:161, killed by a fox 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a kobold zombie, on T:6125 00:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 294 points, T:442, killed by a jackal 00:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Mal Cha), 271 points, T:511, killed by a kobold 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 426 points, T:657, killed by a dwarf 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13028 00:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 129 points, T:358, killed by a jackal 00:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 12 points, T:253, killed by a jackal 00:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 189 points, T:626, killed by an iron ball collision 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 380 points, T:3677, choked on a tin of spinach 00:30 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 00:30 <@Asreal> WH 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6964 00:30 <@Asreal> that didn't give me the 'you have trouble getting it all down' 00:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 22 points, T:208, killed by a grid bug 00:31 rip 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] mangotiger (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3232 00:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Hlf Fem Cha), 113 points, T:785, killed by a grid bug 00:37 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 271 points, T:1038, killed by a water moccasin 00:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ran Bat Mal Cha), 48 points, T:277, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 202 points, T:1139, killed by a gnome zombie 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3450 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una) had a dusty cloak entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:4029 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 481 points, T:689, killed by an arrow 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 3544 points, T:4255, killed by a rothe 00:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3079 00:55 <@princessSpicycat> sometimes when 2 or 3 roomies are playing netflix, i wonder why the hell i play my games online > how come your partner doesnt play hdf? @riker 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2377 points, T:2260, killed by a dwarf king 00:58 <@Asreal> lmao hallucination is hilarious 00:59 <@Asreal> HAAA the shopkeeper's name keeps changing and his shop is trippin out 00:59 <@Asreal> w h o a 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4203 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 186 points, T:543, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Ms. Ypey; the shopkeeper 01:03 <@Asreal> WHOA A GENIE 01:03 <@riker> that's fair spicycat 01:03 <@Asreal> lemme get uhhhh 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:193 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] mangotiger (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 10817 points, T:5562, killed by a gelatinous cube 01:04 <@riker> that's not a boneless pizza 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4425 01:07 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9394 01:08 -!- talkingleaf has joined #hardfought 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4727 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1375 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:17041 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:41689 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Peregrinatrix, on T:10061 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:41927 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 641 points, T:1573, killed by a giant ant 01:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] elgeonmb (Ana Inc Fem Neu), 6877 points, T:2992, absorbing too much energy and exploding 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:5176 01:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu), 22768 points, T:6470, quit 01:21 !who 01:21 bugsniper: [hdf-us] macosx [slshm] k2 [evil] aximili [nh370] oh6 [nh370] canine [nh370] fcloud [nh370] tsingi [nh370] Thidwick [un] Heliokopis [dnh] KaiHerd [dnh] BoatsandJoes [fh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 01:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4326 01:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:42081 01:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1780 01:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8763 01:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 5216 points, T:1916, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6109 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:6245 01:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 4 points, T:79, killed by a jackal 01:37 <@Asreal> how bad is lycanthropy? found a werewolf 👀 01:38 <@Sig> Will jack up your armor if you transform while wearing it. Can be fixed with wolfsbane, a prayer, or quaffing holy water 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:6951 01:41 <@Asreal> 8g seems... suspiciously cheap for a pair of boots 01:41 <@Asreal> can shopkeepers sell me cursed stuff? 01:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:41 <@Sig> They can 01:42 <@Sig> I dunno how much you want me to spoil about how they price stuff though. 01:42 <@Asreal> i'll figure it out o7 01:42 <@Sig> Good luck o7 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:7204 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:8002 01:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 3584 points, T:1534, killed by a tinker gnome zombie 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 7029 points, T:8058, killed by a gray unicorn 01:48 <@Asreal> that went downhill very fast 01:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 0 points, T:12, killed by a grid bug 01:48 <@Asreal> best run so far tho! magicbane took forever to get lmao 01:49 <@Sig> Unicorns can mess you up 01:49 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 925 points, T:1867, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 01:49 <@Asreal> it all went downhill so FAST tho like -werejackal bites me - i transform turns later and collapse - pray - run away -unicorn showed up - panic-read a scroll after it melts my HP - it's a scroll of fire 01:49 <@Asreal> i love it lmao 01:52 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Nob Elf Mal Cha), 19 points, T:30, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 01:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 1283 points, T:2016, killed by a giant ant, while praying 01:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Orc Mal Cha), 40 points, T:494, killed by a kobold 02:00 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Nob Vam Fem Neu), 180 points, T:443, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 02:04 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Bat Mal Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:2938 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:22220 02:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Bat Mal Non) was given Frost Brand, on T:6064 02:24 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Nob Hum Fem Cha), 867 points, T:1021, killed by a parrot 02:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Bat Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6668 02:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2308 02:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 140907 points, T:16279, killed by a phase spider 02:28 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Hlf Fem Cha), 305 points, T:689, killed by a jackal 02:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Bat Mal Non), 34716 points, T:7957, killed by a hill giant zombie 02:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) wished for "Blessed rustproof +2 Gauntlets of Power", on T:2898 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (master liches), on T:18073 02:47 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Fem Neu) was given Cleaver, on T:3425 02:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:5055 02:56 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5667 03:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:6387 03:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 11725 points, T:6952, killed by an imp 03:12 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:8965 03:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 972 points, T:2777, killed by a wand 03:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 366 points, T:1267, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a potion 03:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 444 points, T:1383, killed by a soldier ant 03:46 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 99 points, T:466, killed by a boulder 04:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 629 points, T:2503, killed by a rothe 04:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) wished for "The Blessed Greased Wallet of Perseus", on T:14722 04:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Mal Una) wished for "cursed fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:39419 04:17 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:31 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:39 how's it going mobileuser? sounds like it's going well 04:46 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 04:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Mal Una) had a spellbook of create monster given to him by Moloch, on T:40124 04:49 Oh hi amateurhour, yes, going nicely :-) 05:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Swn Fem Non) averted death, on T:2842 05:18 !who 05:18 cebolla: [hdf-us] musicdemon [slex] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] mobileuser [evil] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 05:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Swn Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3537 05:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Mal Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:40180 05:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Swn Fem Non), 20497 points, T:5441, killed by a kobold lord 05:43 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 05:48 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 2900 points, T:2854, killed by a soldier ant 05:49 -!- musicdemon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 63 points, T:247, killed by a sewer rat 05:57 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:58 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:03 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:05 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 06:08 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 06:09 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:15 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Hlf Mal Cha), 332 points, T:1399, killed by a small mimic 06:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:3739 06:49 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6578 07:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1318 07:05 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:06 tours go well Amy? 07:06 hi amateurhour, yesterday was rather straining and there were constantly NPCs that wanted to be interviewed, as well as ones that did not want to... :P 07:06 and today I'll have a late shift in the "assfuck express" 07:06 will have to leave in a little less than 4 hours 07:09 unfortunately I got absolutely demolished by an elemental room in the sewers 07:09 yeah I saw that an astral E owned you :/ rip 07:09 and yes I know astral is not an element :P 07:10 it was a whole room of elementals on nearly every square 07:10 something paralysed me 07:10 !lastgame amateurhour 07:10 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1589035969.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1595857538.slex.txt 07:10 you can't see it as I was engulfed 07:10 would have to consult the ttyrec 07:11 well the astral E's attack is randomized whenever it hits you, so it could also randomly be paralysis 07:11 shame as that game was going quite well 07:12 lot of identify scrolls that managed to actually identify things 07:12 :D 07:12 as opposed to how pathetic they nearly always are 07:12 which types of items do you normally try to use them on? 07:13 scrolls and armour are my first choices 07:13 armor pieces are actually not that bloody likely to resist most of the time... 07:13 I wish the descriptions would tell you if they autocursed as well 07:13 because cypher helmet for example sounded neat 07:13 however, if you're wearing the piece of armor at the time of trying to ID it, it'd be three times less likely to resist, to reward you for taking the risk to wear it :P 07:14 lol, but half the armour pieces are like autocursing helm of ball punching 07:14 yes, that's why I reward players who take the risk anyway 07:16 <@bubbles> so you are saying you should yolo 07:17 <@bubbles> even though sadly the "optimal" way to play is always slow slow boring slow 07:17 <@bubbles> No thanks for me! 07:17 sounds like you'd love it bubbles 07:17 <@bubbles> And thats why I die on astral and water plane multiple times 07:17 maybe dnh isn't the game for you, maybe slex is 07:17 :P 07:17 lol, it's up to the player to decide really, but I want to disincentivize playing it super safe :P 07:18 disincentivising playing it safe isn't the same as encouraging playing irrationally 07:18 hahaha. it's slex, maybe playing irrationally is the best way to win? ;) 07:19 btw I've had to solve that same giant soko puzzle quite a lot recently 07:19 are there any other giant ones? 07:19 saw on jonadab's site he had others 07:19 not yet, but I'm planning to add jonadab's other ones (sadly it seems he didn't make .des files for that) 07:20 I wouldn't mind getting the giant one but it's gotten a bit stale after the 3rd time I had to solve it (instead of lucking out and being able to skip) 07:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Val Dwa Fem Law), 20972 points, T:4621, killed by a lightning bolt 07:22 <@bubbles> ugh 07:22 <@bubbles> stupid 07:22 <@bubbles> Ogre throne room on dl7 and I got greedy and stuck around 07:22 <@bubbles> and got blindlightning tod eath 07:23 rip :( 07:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1782 07:30 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 07:30 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) was given Godhands, on T:2106 07:30 <@bubbles> hoooo boy 07:31 nice quick godhands lmao 07:31 <@bubbles> Oh those are new 07:31 <@bubbles> usually I think helping hand is lawful first gift for monk 07:31 <@bubbles> But not complainting! 07:31 they're possibly the best gloves for hlf monk 07:31 <@bubbles> yep for dex 07:31 <@bubbles> abso 100% 07:31 nah it's been bugged for a while that godhands is always first sac gift for lawful monk I think 07:32 <@bubbles> weird that they get given non blessed but yolo 07:32 monk is really fun 07:34 <@bubbles> got cursed fumble boots on though 07:34 <@bubbles> godhands didn't used to exist!!! 07:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 ogresmasher", on T:9016 07:34 <@bubbles> did they?? 07:36 idk, I only started playing dnh in June lol 07:37 they were definitely introduced much later than premium heart 07:37 <@bubbles> how to get rid of fumble 🤔 07:38 dip them in fountains 07:38 then remove and figure out what you did wrong to equip them in the first place 07:38 :P 07:39 <@bubbles> whats the worst outcome from fountain dipping 07:39 <@bubbles> amateur it is my yolo style of play that made me eqiip them 07:39 <@bubbles> the red S aren't too bad for monk 07:40 <@bubbles> demon might be a bit painful 07:40 <@bubbles> nymph fine I can get her to steal cursed stuff 07:40 monks are strong 07:40 the demon isn't that bad 07:40 <@bubbles> worst thing is they are +3 07:40 is it boots or gloves? 07:41 <@bubbles> boots 07:41 <@bubbles> I 100% did not know dipping could uncurse 07:41 <@bubbles> wtf 07:41 so you have godhands equipped, so the demon will be trivial anyway 07:41 <@bubbles> does gold do d20 without being blessed? 07:43 <@bubbles> also monks should get skilled with polearms 😕 07:44 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 07:45 why? 07:46 <@bubbles> because monks are always using glaives and shit 07:48 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:23051 08:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] xor (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 2022 points, T:1045, killed by a dwarvish spear 08:02 Amy what is the +PK in the MonAngMalLaw+PK referring to, are they the hybrid races? 08:02 yeah 08:02 sPecialist and soKosolver? 08:02 each of them is abbreviated with only one letter, but Ctrl-X shows what they really are 08:03 I wonder what you'll do when there's more than 52 hybrid races 08:03 or maybe that's already happened 08:04 currently there's a bit over 30 of them 08:04 I'll think of something if I exceed that amount :D 08:06 -!- j6p has joined #hardfought 08:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an elf-lady, on T:5571 08:12 could have been worse (didn't lose the robe) 08:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1284 08:29 <@bubbles> lame found frostbrand on the floor 😦 08:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13563 08:45 <@bubbles> OOF: got a mahadeva pet 08:47 <@bubbles> AND I can give it frost brand 08:51 <{Demo}> give it a unicorn horn as well 08:51 <{Demo}> it's not fun when they get confused and hit u 08:52 blank spellbook in the catacombs. weak! 08:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:15807 08:53 <{Demo}> need yafm for reading a blank spellbook when hallu, if that isn't already a thing 08:54 it's like when your god gifts you the plain spellbook 08:54 does that only happen if you have a marker ? 08:56 -!- Menchinator has joined #hardfought 08:57 <@bubbles> I need to resize some gear for it 08:57 -!- Mencherino has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59 <@bubbles> will he wear a shield demo? 09:01 <{Demo}> if u make him 09:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) killed Oona, on T:11688 09:02 <@bubbles> hmm, atlanteon royal sword is better for him? 09:03 <{Demo}> ass rammer supreme is a good sword, probably, yeah 09:04 can i change autopickup exceptions in a game i'm already playing ? 09:04 <@bubbles> means she doesn't get a shield 09:04 <@bubbles> (he) 09:04 <@bubbles> I always thought deva were always she 09:04 I want to pick up luck stone pre teleport 09:04 <{Demo}> you can do both i think 09:04 but * isn't in the list 09:04 (playing evilhack) 09:04 <{Demo}> what size is the mahadeva? 09:04 when i change it in my options file it doesn't change 09:04 <{Demo}> not normal size, right? 09:05 <{Demo}> it can probably onehand ars 09:05 I would be fine with autopickup all so i just commented that line out, but it still has the exceptions 09:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:16455 09:06 do i really need mr to pick up the luckstone? that doesn't seem right 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1182 09:09 Autopickup: ON, for $"=/!?+ objects. 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1250 09:09 how do i add * ? 09:09 <{Demo}> use a grappling hook 09:10 ahh thank you 09:10 i'm down with that 09:10 <@bubbles> demo he is large I think 09:12 <@bubbles> huh he won't wield it 09:12 <{Demo}> it isnt the right alignment 09:12 <{Demo}> maybe? 09:12 <{Demo}> or is it, idk 09:12 <{Demo}> nah its neutral and so is he, thought it was chaotic for a second 09:13 <@bubbles> oh no 09:13 <@bubbles> it's cos he has shield 09:13 <@bubbles> shield of ygdrasil 09:13 <{Demo}> take his shield 09:13 <@bubbles> I dunno if that regen affects him though 09:13 <{Demo}> make him wield it 09:13 <{Demo}> then but the shield back on him 09:15 <@bubbles> he won't 09:15 <@bubbles> I took shield off but he refuses to use atlanteon 09:15 <@bubbles> He is lawful I think? 09:15 <@bubbles> hmm no 09:16 <{Demo}> you can tell what alignment an angel is by its glyph 09:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:12252 09:18 <@bubbles> also he isn't levelling up 09:18 <{Demo}> he's gotta pick on someone his own size 09:18 <{Demo}> what's his xp lvl vs the stuff he is fighting? 09:20 <@bubbles> 29 09:20 <@bubbles> but he got tons of hp 09:20 <@bubbles> then stopped 09:20 <@bubbles> oh can he only actually level up off someone in range of hin? 09:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6312 09:21 <@bubbles> he is going to fuck master kaen's shit up though 09:22 <{Demo}> someone with xp lvl near his 09:22 <{Demo}> otherwise his chance of gain is low 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 26822 points, T:10884, killed by Mr. Annootok; the shopkeeper 09:23 dammit i hit rest at one point by mistake instead of step back 09:25 (killed a cockatrice right in front of the general store and couldn't resist... he was slowing down too but i stood there like an idiot) 09:25 <@bubbles> 😦 09:27 <@bubbles> he flies demo? 09:27 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 2191 points, T:1586, killed by a monster (infernal potato of Moloch) 09:28 <@bubbles> yes 09:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] zor (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 2367 points, T:1392, killed by a gnome 09:29 <@bubbles> will badboys cast destroy armor at him? 09:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:13784 09:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] zor (Con Orc Mal Cha), 22 points, T:130, killed by a jackal 09:31 <@bubbles> so if I am lawful why did I get a neutral pet? 09:33 because there's not many applicable gifts to give lawful monks 09:33 so it runs out very quickly 09:33 oh, neutral pet 09:33 misread 09:33 mb 09:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:14947 09:35 <@bubbles> get shrekked 09:36 <@bubbles> actually he almost killed me but 09:36 <@bubbles> YES my pet got 1hp from killing him 09:37 [hdf-us] [fh] Arnibald (arnibald) (Val Hum Fem Law) defeated Vlad the Impaler, on T:66790 09:43 <@bubbles> would an arcing excalibur be better than frost brand? 09:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha), 30960 points, T:7453, killed by an air elemental, while praying 09:45 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 09:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 Vampire Killer", on T:25315 09:49 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:17833 09:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:18013 09:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) was given Tensa Zangetsu, on T:20157 09:58 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 2560 points, T:6742, quit 10:01 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:03 !lastgame maxlunar 10:03 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MaxLunar/slex/dumplog/1595943248.slex.txt 10:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) was given the Fluorite Octahedron, on T:18922 10:05 <@bubbles> excuuuuuuuuse me? 10:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 black dragon scale mail", on T:20477 10:06 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 10:06 <@bubbles> absolute bullshit 10:07 <@bubbles> so does it count as one gem at 8d8 ordoes it fire individual ones? 10:07 <@bubbles> I just want my helping hand 😦 10:10 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:20989 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a gray unicorn corpse, on T:4124 10:17 wish for it? :P 10:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] zor (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1713 points, T:476, killed by a gnome 10:20 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:21438 10:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) killed Cerberus, on T:46800 10:31 <@bubbles> I am worried it generated already if I didn't get it as a sac gift? 10:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) became the Messenger of Hermes, on T:21838 10:40 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 164 points, T:687, killed by a hobbit 10:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) wished for "uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:47528 10:47 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha) averted death, on T:2286 10:48 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha) killed Mirko, on T:2311 10:49 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha) averted death, on T:2323 10:49 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 2581 points, T:2325, killed by a monster (troll zombie) 10:49 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 10:49 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 10:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] filthy (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 237 points, T:497, killed by an acid blob 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:2872 10:54 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:03 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:11363 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:11394 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8450 11:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 1443 points, T:1167, killed by a rothe 11:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48245 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:11872 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:11875 11:11 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 197 points, T:567, killed by an electric shock 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13719 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:42996 11:18 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 1108 points, T:2003, quit 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:13045 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:9143 11:19 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 13 points, T:199, killed by a monster (invisible Xinivrae), while sleeping 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:14714 11:21 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 140 points, T:343, killed by a blast of fire 11:22 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Con Dwa Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:3859 11:23 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 6594 points, T:4070, killed by a rothe 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:9590 11:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 6794 points, T:1804, killed by a gnome king 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 fireproof boots of speed", on T:43000 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 56420 points, T:13472, killed by a mumak 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:10023 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a lembas wafer on an altar, on T:10028 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:19856 11:34 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 5891 points, T:4251, killed by an Elvenking 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1774 points, T:2385, killed by a Woodland-elf 11:38 !coffee 11:38 * Beholder hands nabru a barrel of the hooch, prayed over by the /dev/null/oracle at 95 Kelvin. 11:38 !pom 11:38 nabru: The moon is at first quarter; full moon in 6 days. 11:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 2924 points, T:1313, killed by a lizard 11:40 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 6519 points, T:2687, quit 11:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:26203 11:44 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 11:45 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 11:45 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1168 points, T:1517, quit 11:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 2021 points, T:1008, killed by a gnome queen 11:48 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 11:50 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:27234 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43075 11:54 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Thidwick, the former Digger, on T:1489 11:54 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:56 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Thidwick, the former Digger, on T:1594 11:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 4361 points, T:1427, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:59 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:89 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43131 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:18401 12:02 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3231 points, T:1715, killed by an Uruk-hai 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:21427 12:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] canine (Mon Hlf Mal Cha) was given Hammerfeet, on T:3360 12:22 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 12:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 2431 points, T:1864, fell into a pit 12:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] canine (Mon Hlf Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:4454 12:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:23541 12:26 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 153 points, T:275, killed by a falling rock 12:28 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 1740 points, T:976, killed by a little dog 12:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 850 points, T:783, killed by a gnome 12:53 @?sdfhd 12:53 No such monster. 12:57 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 3086 points, T:1107, quit 13:06 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:21780 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6187 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1410 13:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) wished for "communion glyph", on T:28828 13:23 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2880 13:25 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 2953 points, T:3052, killed by a hill orc called Aakhathos of Grisuakhu 13:26 damn orctown. 13:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:30108 13:28 YANI: As part of the "rallying shout" code in splice, orctown orcs may pick a random hostile orc on the level and call their name 13:29 with favor given to those nearby 13:29 yeah, i've seen that before in minetown with guards, too. 13:32 The giant spider's bite was poisoned! Kaablamm! 13:32 ^ that's one powerful poison :D 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1586 points, T:1835, killed by a giant beetle 13:33 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1783 13:34 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 404 points, T:1888, killed by a giant mimic 13:36 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 13:38 wand of death on level 2!! 13:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:51057 13:41 -!- asdfasd has joined #hardfought 13:43 hey there everybody! 13:43 <@riker> o/ 13:44 \o 13:45 hi 13:45 Hello qt_, Welcome to #hardfought 13:45 wow, thanks Beholder 13:45 very welcoming 13:45 does anybody know about the book of lost names in dnethack? when i read it it asks me "Risk your name amongst the Lost? [yn] (n)", so is it dangerous? 13:45 Hello qt_, Welcome to #hardfought 13:46 Hello amateurhour, Welcome to #hardfought 13:46 <@riker> its sorta dangerous asdfasd 13:46 <@riker> are you familiar with the dnethack artifacts page? https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/DNetHack_artifacts 13:46 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 13:46 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:47 <@riker> the BOLN can teach you a random near void binder spirit when you try to read it 13:47 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3051 13:47 <@riker> for every seal learned the chance for it to fail again goes up. normally i go until i get a spirit that i want, or until i start running out of blessed FH potions to repair the levels i lost 13:47 thank you, I looked at the page but it didnt say anything about it being dangerous. I'm playing as a Binder so the book is probably junk anyways 13:48 <@riker> "risking your name" is attempting to learn a seal. if it fails, then you lose a level (this can be lethal if your'e at level 1) 13:48 ohhhhh ok thank you! 13:48 <@riker> meh, i'ts not awful - it lets you bypass the rituals 13:48 <@riker> but the books spirits != your learned spirits, you have to have learned them from the book to bind without the ritual 13:48 ah ok. i double checked the wiki and I didn't read it closely enough haha 13:48 <@riker> if you want, might be wise to go for iris, marionette, etc. one of the more annoying ones (but the crowning spirit can do that too) 13:49 <@riker> if you ever have more dnethack questions, feel free to ask here or in ##nethack-variants 13:50 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:1297 13:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed the Grue, on T:31023 13:50 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:50 you lose a level if it selects a spirit that has already been chosen in the past, is that right? 13:51 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3360 13:51 https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dnethack/blob/eee1941e5dd81f1d63ed7c1bfcc4998123891ec1/dnethack-3.4.3/src/artifact.c#L9071-L9080 13:51 <@riker> yes qt 13:51 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3392 13:51 <@riker> effectively, it's the same as having the fail chance go up though 13:51 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3412 13:51 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:51 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 13:52 yeah I guess the exact mechanism doesn't really make a big difference from the player's perspective 13:52 [hdf-us] [slshm] filthy (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 872 points, T:1537, killed by Mr. Picq, the shopkeeper, while helpless 13:52 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11017 13:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:31239 13:52 but I was looking at the code and I wanted to make sure I understood what was going on 13:52 <@riker> qt yeah ther'es a couple places in the code that do something like that 13:53 <@riker> from the players POV it has a simple rule, but from the code's pov it's implemented in a neater/cleaner but more complicated way 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:21960 13:54 I like how often nethack uses bitmasks, etc -- I barely ever get a chance to wrap my head around bitwise operations other than when messing around with nethack code 13:55 <@riker> yeah, bitmasks are neat 13:55 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed the ghost of serhei, the former Sludge Mage, on T:1611 13:56 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed the ghost of nabru, the former Fighter, on T:1636 13:57 just ur friendly ghostbuster 14:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1403 points, T:2203, killed by a bat 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:22664 14:05 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 14:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una), 301011 points, T:43380, petrified by a cockatrice 14:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) was given Trollsbane, on T:52014 14:06 MOBILEUSER NOOOO 14:07 <@riker> :( in demon form too 14:07 RIP Mobi the Demob Infidel 14:07 *demon 14:07 !lastgame mobileuser 14:07 K2: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1595534976.evil.html 14:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) was given the Silence Glaive, on T:52083 14:07 <@riker> oh that's not ideal 14:08 AAAAHAAAAA 14:08 <@riker> that should probably be blocked like flayer tentacles 14:08 oh shit lol 14:08 <@riker> worse than dead - dead to a bug :/ 14:08 Sting = Instadeath 14:08 rofl 14:08 K2 14:08 K22222222222 14:08 <@riker> i knew elven rangers were op! 14:08 yup 14:08 i blame Tomsod, its his patch :P 14:08 blame K2 14:09 Tomsod's not here to direct anger at 14:09 <@riker> i can't blame k2 without feeling bad because i've done worse 14:09 <@riker> so its ok k2 but dont do it again! 14:09 oversight 14:09 big oversight 14:09 evilhack covers illithid and vampires in this regard 14:09 <@riker> !who 14:09 @riker: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370] post163 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] MaxLunar [slex] asdfasdf [dnh] Alasnuyo [dnh] groovejumper [fh] arnibald [fh] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] Sweetdough [dnh] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:09 <@riker> k2: why not just all monsters? 14:10 <@riker> !whereis sweetdough 14:10 @riker: [hdf-eu] Sweetdough [dnh]: (Mon Hlf Mal Law) T:35954 The Lost Cities level: 19 14:10 <@riker> or maybe all intelligent monsters? 14:10 lol riker if you're a monk with high martial arts you do a kick attack sometimes 14:10 if you're not wearing boots you die 14:10 <@riker> that's rude :( 14:10 but you can wear boots 14:10 you can prevent it 14:10 you can attack 'trices with range 14:10 you can prevent it 14:11 <@riker> can you wear like, a sting cover? 14:11 there arent any little booties for illithid tentacles or a dental dam for vampires bite 14:11 "I died to Chthulu and thought all hope was lost, but then I had an amulet of life saving equipped that I forgot about!" 14:11 lulz https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/hzgy9r/first_acension_in_unnethack/ 14:11 <@riker> i'm impressed at their ability to forget important details like that 14:11 and before anyone asks, centaur monks are handled already with kicking 14:12 K2 we demand the booties 14:12 because centaurs cant wear boots 14:12 <@riker> also, damn i respect their ability to avoid wands of death until castle cleared 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 561 points, T:749, killed by a gnome lady 14:14 nerf gnome ladies! 14:14 is that related to the upcoming booties 14:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helping hand", on T:36620 14:15 no 14:15 no booties 14:15 no tiny hats for doggos 14:15 no finger puppets 14:15 angery 14:15 tiny hats for doggos is a good idea 14:15 * K2 gives amateurhour a snickers bar 14:16 although it sounds like such a meme the starting pet just commits sudoku whenever it sees a zombie 14:16 because of the living/dead grudge maybe 14:16 welcome to evilhack 14:16 <@riker> grudges > common sense 14:17 everything > riker 14:17 might as well just delete the starting pet 14:17 <@riker> YASI: in evilhack, intelligent living things without helmets run like hell when they see a zombie instead of trying to kil lit 14:17 <@riker> k2: i dislike the implication that i have common sense 14:17 lol that'd be hilarious for shopkeepers and priests 14:17 <@riker> :p 14:17 heh 14:18 <@riker> you're trying to shop peacefully, the shopkeeper sees somebody behind you, shoves you outside & locks the door on you 14:18 <@riker> a small price to pay for salvation 14:18 <@bubbles> I hardly ever use wands 14:18 <@bubbles> I suck like that 14:18 that sounds even more hilarious 14:18 even better if they push you right into the zambo 14:19 <@riker> why doesn't the evilhack ice queen realm have zambonis? 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 71 points, T:90, killed by a fox 14:19 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 541 points, T:1705, killed by a gecko 14:19 too cold for zimbanas 14:19 @riker they do 14:20 <@riker> \o/ 14:20 and a snow cone stand 14:20 <@riker> i am sorry for doubting you k2 14:20 <@riker> please forgive me 14:20 no 14:20 :) 14:20 <@riker> i love snow cones 14:20 <@riker> lol 14:20 * K2 hands @riker a yellow snow cone he just made 14:20 <@riker> watermelon snow cones are the best 14:20 <@riker> 🤔 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 409 points, T:1267, killed by a piranha 14:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 atma weapon", on T:31970 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4084 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Vagrant, on T:11179 14:28 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 17602 points, T:1723, killed by a monster (farting carcass), while praying unsuccessfully 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:11568 14:30 -!- maxlunar has joined #hardfought 14:33 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5432 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5512 14:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 living armor", on T:32641 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 780 points, T:1726, killed by a gnome lord 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:5599 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5867 points, T:5743, killed by a soldier ant 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:12076 14:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:33341 14:46 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "very historic very holy very greased very partly eaten very very +5 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance and reflection named boingy *and* bouncy!", on T:12374 14:55 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 125 points, T:533, killed by a jackal 14:56 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 89 points, T:262, killed by a falling rock 14:57 -!- maxlunar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 14760 points, T:11918, killed by a dwarf 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2005 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed dgoddard's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2024 15:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1433 15:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3689 points, T:1764, quit 15:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) killed Axus, on T:54666 15:11 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 15:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:54701 15:13 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 1396 points, T:899, quit 15:14 [hdf-us] [fh] Arnibald (arnibald) (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class 'c', on T:67453 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14407 15:14 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16 [hdf-us] [fh] Arnibald (arnibald) (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class 'v', on T:67471 15:18 -!- asdfasd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6916 points, T:3741, killed by a vampire lord 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 7633 points, T:5118, killed by an invisible chameleon imitating a baby silver dragon 15:27 K2 I just had an odd thing happen 15:28 where slex appeared to have frozen, and then closed 15:28 there was a prompt to attempt to restore the game, which worked 15:28 but the ttyrecs don't exactly match up positions 15:28 oh nvm, it was probably going back a bit in time nvm 15:30 it happened again 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 823 points, T:1443, killed by a dwarf 15:31 <@riker> amy your game sucks 0/10 how could you make such a broken game 15:31 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed The Greater Hell-Lichen, on T:8012 15:31 <@riker> <3 15:31 !tell LarienTelrunya just had slex quit itself twice in a row and need to recover 15:31 No worries, amateurhour, I've got this! 15:31 no doubt working as designed 15:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "a blessed engagement ring", on T:123021 15:33 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:36 slex: "we quit so you don't have to" 15:36 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 15:36 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 15:36 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 15:36 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 37457 points, T:15338, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted warg, while dressing up 15:40 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:123929 15:41 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 15:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 15:42 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 15:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:575 15:43 -!- asdfasdf has joined #hardfought 15:44 heyo! does anybody know how to tame lady oona? i read a scroll of taming and it didnt work 15:44 <@riker> she just has reasonable monster MR 15:44 <@riker> keep going! 15:44 <@riker> !who 15:44 @riker: [hdf-us] rebatela [evil] oh6 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] MaxLunar [slex] qt [spl] asdfasdf [dnh] Alasnuyo [dnh] phaperplane2 [dnh] Gorvunculus [dnh] groovejumper [fh] arnibald [fh] Bartlem [xnh] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] myn [nh343] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:44 <@riker> !whereis asdfasdf 15:44 @riker: [hdf-us] asdfasdf [dnh]: (Bin Dwa Mal Non) T:55829 Law Quest level: 0 15:45 ahh so just keep trying the taming scrolls, got it. thanks! 15:45 <@riker> np 15:45 <@riker> you could use the rod of seven parts charm monsters, if you have the lawful spirit bound 15:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:124307 15:47 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1094 15:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) wished for "Cursed Fixed +3 Godhands", on T:767 15:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) wished for "Cursed Fixed +3 Orange Dragon Scale Mail", on T:769 15:51 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:55 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:56 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 1118 points, T:2407, poisoned by a killer bee 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 760 points, T:1141, killed by a giant leech 16:07 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:3628 16:08 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3640 16:08 WOO i did it! didnt realize the rod was right there at first 16:08 <@riker> lol 16:09 <@riker> now you have miska, probably the most OP binder spirit rigt now 16:09 that too! excited for that 16:09 needed to bind a different alingment spirit to use the rod to charm oona 16:10 <@riker> which chaos quest did you have? 16:10 but now i dont need the rod, and i also have the field marshals baton for when i have miska. i had mithradar 16:10 <@riker> field marshal's baton can't be used with miska's extra arms, sadly. not like it's any good anyway 16:12 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:14711 16:12 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed eyes of the overworld", on T:14713 16:13 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:14715 16:14 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:16 Ahh dang. I think the volley from nvoking it is sorta neat lol 16:16 how do i keep oona tame btw 16:16 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:16 does it just eat corpses 16:17 <@riker> she will, yeah 16:17 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 cloak of displacement", on T:14822 16:17 <@riker> she should just eat anything 16:17 <@riker> well, any corpse - she's not a herbivore 16:20 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5276 16:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2851 points, T:4630, killed by a raven, while fainted from lack of food 16:22 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3313 points, T:5918, killed by a vampire bat 16:24 damn, she resists magic so she wont let me zap her with speed monster lmaooo 16:25 oh wait, does she resist Dahlver-Nar's moan? 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 1168 points, T:2667, killed by a wererat 16:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:28 <@riker> asdf: speed monster in dnethack is temporary 16:28 <@riker> it'll haste them for a bit before wearing off 16:29 <@riker> i know it works like that for players, it may or may not work for mosnters actually. regardless - it has to beat her monster MR number, not her player-style MR 16:30 <@riker> also, no she won't resist moan 16:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) killed Cerberus, on T:22237 16:32 damn, i dont wanna drive my pet crazy, that'd be bad 16:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2929 16:33 is there any way to make an insane creature go sane again 16:33 <@riker> blessed potion of amnesia, for tames 16:33 <@riker> toss it to them and they shoudl catch & drink 16:33 <@riker> uncursed still works but it makes them peaceful 16:35 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22576 16:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) wished for "magic chest", on T:40721 16:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] asdfasdf (Bin Dwa Mal Non) wished for "fixed uncursed magic marker", on T:57700 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 853 points, T:1606, killed by a gnome 16:41 -!- attie has quit [Quit: attie] 16:41 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 16:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:5233 16:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1259 16:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:6871 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh4] Keen (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 33282 points, T:2407, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:54 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:5638 16:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:7670 16:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:41772 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:25510 17:06 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:1371 17:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 6040 points, T:1918, killed by a living lectern 17:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:42356 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3146 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2873 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:26789 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 1846 points, T:3182, killed by a hill orc 17:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:42502 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Wayfarer, on T:26607 17:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 7959 points, T:12062, killed by an orc-captain 17:20 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:3104 17:23 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 15224 points, T:7785, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted ape, while praying 17:27 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 17:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a glass piercer, on T:4099 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5037 17:34 amateurhour: urrrrrrrgh. sounds like the game crashed. I'd need a backtrace to know what it was; if such a thing happens, please *always* ask the server administrator (K2 in this case) for a backtrace! 17:34 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-07-28 15:31 EDT: just had slex quit itself twice in a row and need to recover 17:34 greetings my favourite server administrator K2 17:34 objnam.c can suck it 17:34 !tell K2 are there any recent core dumps for slex on hdf-eu? if so, I'd like to see the backtrace; sorry for the trouble 17:34 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 17:34 oh whoops, ninjad 17:34 didn't realize you were currently on 17:36 getting 'nam.c flashbacks K2? 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:5352 17:37 LarienTelrunya i'll have a look 17:37 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2020-07-28 17:34 EDT: are there any recent core dumps for slex on hdf-eu? if so, I'd like to see the backtrace; sorry for the trouble 17:37 cool, thanks :) 17:37 hopefully it did create a core dump this time 17:38 (Amy points at crashes that don't create one, then curses. :D) 17:38 <@bubbles> the server winces 17:39 amy - https://termbin.com/8zesh 17:39 cooooool it did leave one this time, great! thanks K2 ♥ 17:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2472 17:40 crashed twice in a row earlier fwiw so there might be a second backtrace 17:41 did you eventually get past the crash? seems that it happened when a monster revived, so I guess you killed some sort of reviving monster on that level 17:42 no second coredump 17:42 yes I did get past it eventually 17:43 any idea what the monster in question could have been, did you kill a fungus, troll etc. on that level and if yes, did you do something specific with the corpse, e.g. put it in a box, throw it into a pool or w/e? 17:43 I didn't do anything odd, unless.... 17:43 I might have kicked a corpse into a pit 17:44 a hole rather 17:44 it was either a corpse or a melon, they look the same to me 17:46 a hole?! you mean you kicked the corpse into it and it fell through? or it stayed on the hole and may have revived and immediately fallen through the hole when it did? 17:47 there could have been a corpse on a hole already that I kicked 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Rhizotomist, on T:2136 17:47 you know how sometimes you enter a level and there's corpses around already? 17:47 ugh, I guess the only thing I can really do is look at the ttyrec and try to figure it out that way 17:47 yeah sorry I don't magically remember every detail :P 17:48 it was a mundane soko puzzle up till that point 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6943 17:49 don't worry, you don't have to remember everything, I'm just trying to play detective to hopefully reconstruct what lead to the crash so I can fix it :) 17:49 it helps a ton to have a backtrace, that way I know for sure that it blew up when it tried to remove the corpse item 17:50 on dungeon level 1, I'm treated to two newts and a goblin spelling out "lol" 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:7244 17:52 !tell @riker at least I have a variant at all, why don't you have one as well? :P (yeah I know you're a dnethack dev now) 17:52 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 17:54 <@riker> I didnt do anything 17:54 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2020-07-28 17:52 EDT: at least I have a variant at all, why don't you have one as well? :P (yeah I know you're a dnethack dev now) 17:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:54 <@riker> I just break things occasionally 17:54 <@riker> and mainly bc I have no work ethic 17:54 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:54 lol 17:55 anyway I need to find the crash ttyrec now 17:55 <@riker> also i do not have the requisite amount of ideas to put into practice 17:55 it's this one Amy https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/ttyrec/2020-07-28.19:13:56.ttyrec.gz 17:56 ah thanks, that speeds up the search :) 17:56 check the one immediately after it too to see the second crash (which occurs immediately after a kick) 17:56 no idea which one the backtrace is from 17:57 K2 do you have a timestamp of the crash? 17:57 The melon falls through a hole. You hear a muffled splat. 17:58 today 1924 hours UTC 17:58 well that cannot have been it though, because melons do not have corpse timers (if they do, something is REALLY bugged) 17:58 thanks K2 17:58 check ttyrec after that one then Amy for the one that left the backtrace 17:58 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/ttyrec/2020-07-28.19:24:48.ttyrec.gz 17:58 okay so that first ttyrec has two visible corpses, one human and one baby mimic, although why it would randomly crash when one of those revives is beyond me 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8129 18:00 anyone else find it weird how lifesaving's "You survived that attempt on your life" is delayed until the end of all messages? 18:00 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed the ghost of MaxLunar, the former Novice, on T:30480 18:00 weeeeeeeeird... second crash was when you kicked a melon 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3106 18:00 could be coincidence 18:00 "The wererat bites! You die... Die? [yn] n [twenty uruk-hai fire arrows] You survived that attempt on your life. 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8179 18:00 could it be that the game somehow has timers on melons? or maybe it's generally bugged when a melon first falls through the hole and then supposedly splats at the bottom 18:01 I solve the rest of the puzzle in the ttyrec after that, perhaps there was another corpse in the room? 18:01 if there's a coredump available it might be possible to just load it and inspect lol 18:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:45904 18:02 my guess is that it's the melons, they might fuxx0r up the objects array when destroyed that way. you kick one through the hole, the game destabilizes and will crash the next time anything tries to modify the objects array, such as a corpse reviving and therefore being removed from the array 18:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46107 18:02 brilliant 18:02 makes sense 18:03 and if you kick and thereby destroy a second melon after the first one fell through the hole, it would also try to modify the objects array and crash as well 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8444 18:03 don't even want to imagine what would happen if you were to *save the game* after kicking a melon through the hole but before the next time the objects array is modified 18:03 I'll wiztest it locally at some point, should be easy to reproduce and then I can figure out how to actually fix it 18:04 this is a very good find, so thanks! ♥ will also test whether it happens in regular slashem as well 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3548 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 2287 points, T:3548, killed by a killer bee 18:06 also this is a bug that I'd never have found myself, because by definition I don't kick melons and therefore wouldn't have encountered it ;) 18:06 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Thilo, on T:30509 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8539 18:09 do you not kick food on sokoholes? 18:09 I do, but not melons or eggs because I know it destroys them ;) (also I'm so OCD that I farlook every food on the holes to make sure it's not of a type that will be destroyed by the kick) 18:10 or sometimes I also turn on autopickup and fall through the hole, picking it up in the process 18:10 I wonder if the game would also blow up if you were to fall through a hole without autopickup and happen to have the melon follow you through the hole 18:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:39948 18:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Mon Hlf Mal Law) killed Father Dagon, on T:40009 18:15 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed Peeer, on T:12099 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10962 18:19 heading to sleep, seeya 18:19 oh my god 18:19 what 18:19 trying to setup nh366 on this machine... ".nethackrc - enter a valid file name." 18:19 GENIUS 18:20 so I cannot even copy over my old rcfile because they made it so that it now has a file name that cannot be assigned at all via windows explorer! 18:20 <@riker> lmao 18:20 lmao 18:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 34812 points, T:6156, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 18:20 did they even *test* that, or is unix the only OS that exists for them (where such filenames are probably permitted)? :P 18:20 oh my 18:21 even better, I renamed the default file it created upon launch and now I cannot rename it back! HELP! 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 551 points, T:1577, killed by a sewer rat 18:21 open it in notepad and save it as any file 18:21 (hoping that a new launch will hopefully recreate it?) 18:21 so you don't need a file extension then 18:22 idk what one would do in windows explorer tbh 18:22 the problem is that the file is called .nethackrc so it thinks it has only an extension, not a name 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11657 18:22 you can probably do such things in unix, but not in windows 18:22 delet windows 18:22 lol 18:23 <@riker> amy: still going to complain about dnh not supporting windows? :P 18:23 lol apparently you can either use the notepad trick as mentioned before 18:23 or you can rename the file in windows explorer '.nethackrc.' and the final . will be dropped 18:23 kek 18:23 @riker: yes, especially since the developer supposedly develops on windows, which is very hard to believe. why can't he simply share a binary 18:23 windows is a meme 18:23 <@riker> amy, he develops using WSL 18:24 yeah but how does Chris test it? does he create a unix binary and runs that via VM? 18:24 <@riker> idk but that sounds like a reasonable way to me 18:24 because if he creates windows binaries, there is no excuse not to share them with us :P 18:25 (as well as the secret on how to create them) 18:25 <@riker> theory: chris actually doesn't play dnh 18:25 <@riker> he just throws code together and pretends it works for him 18:25 <@riker> nothing is ever tested it's just shipped, packed tight in thoughts & prayers 18:26 that's what the crack team of unpaid testers are for 18:26 I mean players 18:27 also who had the bright idea to make it so that the rcfile and the saves folder are in completely different locations... *one* hard to find location (that I need to consult http://nethack.org/v366/bugmore/WinFilePaths.txt for because nobody can remember them) would have been bad enough! 18:27 wasn't that always the case though? 18:27 for multiseat machines 18:27 no, in 3.4.3 it all goes in the installation folder where it's easy to find 18:28 well anyways ima sleep now, seeya :P 18:28 <@riker> cya 18:29 see you amateurhour! 18:29 meanwhile I'm trying to reproduce the bug... why are the melons always going "Splat!" immediately in 3.66 18:29 I kind of want that bug to also exist in 3.66 :P 18:30 slex.exe has stopped working. 18:30 reproduced after three kicks in slex, whereas in 3.66 the bug obviously doesnt exist 18:32 man this looks like yet another goddamn slashem bug! why do I always get stuck with having to fix that mess of a game :( 18:32 dnethack (which is 3.4.3-based) doesn't have the bug either 18:32 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:33 <@riker> amy, maybe because you're the only one masochistic enough to base a variant directly off slashem 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law) murdered Slasher, her faithful little dog, on T:1195 18:34 heh, yeah I guess 18:35 the masochist in me also wants to have her hands crushed under some "bundle girl block heels" (which my roommate invented), but I guess if I start talking such rubbish I'd better go to bed anyway :D 18:36 got another tour tomorrow and it'll hopefully go better than the one I was supposed to have today and which didn't actually happen because of train delays, cancellations etc. *groan* 18:36 <@riker> :/ have fun wth that 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 31941 points, T:12532, killed by a crossbow bolt, while paralyzed by a monster 18:37 -!- qt_ has quit [Quit: qt_] 18:37 so, good night! also, riker: my variant may suck right now but once I finally manage to eradicate the last leftover slashem bugs it's gonna be great! :D 18:37 <@riker> i think your variant is fine? 18:37 <@riker> other than the balance issues such as "you cannot consistnetly win slex" but isn't that intentional 18:37 lol didn't you say "0/10 amy your variant sucks" or something :P (and yeah I know you were being sarcastic) 18:37 <@riker> i don't enjoy playing it much but it seems to meet its goals 18:38 <@riker> but i guess i shoudl trust the sole person who actually knows its goals for that 18:38 <@riker> anyway, night amy! 18:38 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38 :) 18:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: bundle girl block heels ♥] 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:27320 18:41 <@bubbles> > yeah but how does Chris test it? does he create a unix binary and runs that via VM? @LarienTelrunya#0000 yes 18:41 <@bubbles> That is effectively how WSL works 18:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:49278 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 1509 points, T:3169, killed by an imp 18:51 aosdict, ["You survived that attempt on your life" message] I guess that's because you might die twice in the same turn? 18:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 8642 points, T:1564, killed by a parrot 18:58 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a dwarvish silver mattock bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:19179 19:04 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a silver saber named Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:19314 19:06 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 19:11 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:29125 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29130 19:24 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 19:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:28 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:28 -!- oh7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:28 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3126 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:3133 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3144 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed dgoddard's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:3170 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 1467 points, T:3041, killed by a rothe 19:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] elgeonmb (Ana Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1347 19:55 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 76729 points, T:17981, killed by a pit fiend 19:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Swn Fem Neu) killed Mammon, on T:50548 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Dispater (5 times), on T:38866 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Dispater (10 times), on T:38872 20:11 -!- j6p has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 7277 points, T:1516, killed by the sight of a weeping angel 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Hum Fem Law), 958 points, T:2039, killed by a wand 20:13 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Dun Chu Mal Cha), 310 points, T:592, killed by a monster (invisible Mr. Iskenderun, the shopkeeper) 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a dog, on T:6043 20:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Vam Fem Non), 6767 points, T:2988, killed by a gnome lord zombie 20:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Swn Fem Non), 179 points, T:528, killed by a sewer rat 20:36 [hdf-us] [4k] charles (Sam Hum Mal Law) were saved from death by your amulet of life saving!, on T:42121 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:30647 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8089 20:45 -!- lorimer has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:45 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 20:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 20:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Swn Fem Non), 8817 points, T:3244, killed by a magic missile 20:54 [hdf-us] [4k] charles (Sam Hum Mal Cha), 29400 points, T:42946, quit 20:56 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 20:57 -!- Andrio has quit [*.net 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sleeping 21:52 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sohlman (Acu Dwa Mal Law), 1322 points, T:1534, killed by a rock mole, while fainted from lack of food 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 20247 points, T:7184, petrified by a cockatrice 21:55 -!- irina|log has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:55 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1293 22:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 16101 points, T:2092, killed by a bolt of fire 22:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given their Quest, on T:30287 22:35 -!- Mencherino has joined #hardfought 22:36 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 22:38 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 22:39 -!- irina|log has joined #hardfought 22:39 -!- irina|log is now known as Guest79629 22:43 -!- asdfasdf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:32581 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Roamer, on T:33006 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:16204 23:14 -!- Tangles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Vam Mal Non), 80606 points, T:11728, killed by a lightning paraelemental of Hermes, while praying 23:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Hlf Fem Non), 4 points, T:97, killed by a kobold 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5415 23:28 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 23:30 -!- Mencherino has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:5433 23:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 1602 points, T:2705, killed by a yesod sephirah 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 Grayswandir", on T:5434 23:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Bat Mal Non), 74 points, T:409, killed by a rock 23:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Dwa Mal Non), 141 points, T:81, killed by a jackal 23:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Vam Mal Non), 1218 points, T:1268, killed by a rothe 23:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 177 points, T:618, killed by a jackal, while charging up a purifying blast 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5877 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:17655 23:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) killed Axus, on T:33270 23:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Vam Fem Non), 3463 points, T:2432, died of starvation 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:48649