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by a black pudding 02:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law) was given the Holy Moonlight Sword, on T:8521 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:33638 02:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 2093 points, T:4547, killed by a leprechaun 02:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 375 points, T:793, killed by a dart trap 02:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 8 points, T:98, killed by a grid bug 02:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 308 points, T:441, killed by a goblin, while helpless 02:41 !roulette 02:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 152 points, T:915, killed by a small mimic 02:44 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 02:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 639 points, T:847, killed by a gnome 02:50 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:00 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1735 03:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Law), 151094 points, T:11088, killed by a priest of Moloch 03:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Vam Fem Cha), 482 points, T:983, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted small mimic, while fainted from lack of food 03:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Vam Fem Cha), 640 points, T:1655, died of starvation 03:26 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 03:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Vam Fem Cha), 6208 points, T:1369, killed by a marid, while praying 03:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Bat Fem Cha) was given the Limb of the Black Tree, on T:1507 03:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:6258 03:42 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Bat Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3158 03:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Bat Fem Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:3392 03:48 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 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(Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4075 05:23 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 godhands", on T:3596 06:00 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 06:05 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 06:13 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:44012 06:21 -!- j6p has joined #hardfought 06:25 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:31 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:47 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:21 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Bat Fem Law), 509 points, T:871, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 07:31 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 07:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:10528 07:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Hlf Fem Cha), 92132 points, T:10531, killed by brainlessness 07:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:35 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Acu Sal Mal Law), 94 points, T:454, killed by a small mimic 07:38 -!- zhangoke has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:41 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 07:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:43 [hdf-us] [slex] Friar Tuck IV (musicdemon) (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47335 07:44 [hdf-us] [slex] Friar Tuck IV (musicdemon) (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47335 07:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 5010 points, T:2498, killed by a magic missile 07:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20596 07:57 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 2449 points, T:677, killed by a rothe 08:02 -!- zhangoke has quit [Quit: zhangoke] 08:02 is there some way to be come uninvisbile other than magic trap? (can't wear mummy wrap) 08:03 Magic traps don't do that. 08:03 oh 08:03 because I swear I've done it that way, but you could be right. 08:04 killing the shopkeepers doesn't help me with my price id problem 08:05 mm 08:05 Mummy wrapping is the only way. How come you can't wear one? 08:06 i'm a giant 08:07 oh... 08:07 K2: hey, can I use the etherpad for a non nethack thing for a while? would be only one article with lots of reddit links and some German in preparation for a banning spree on a subreddit, would likely only exist for a week or two. 08:08 rebatela is playing evilhack, the rules for invis are different 08:08 yeah sometimes you'll get the message you can no longer see through yourself or whatever 08:08 sorry for not making that clear, andrio 08:09 rebatela, how did you become invisible? 08:09 I think that if you quaf a potion of invis then a timer starts, regardless of whether your existing invis was of the permanent kind 08:09 if that makes sense 08:10 oh awesome thanks 08:11 usually I want invis and get annoyed by that if I quaf cursed invis to attract a boss type ;-) 08:11 andrio: a trap in the mines did it before I had barely id'd anything 08:11 very annoying for giants 08:12 yeah i usually save/curse invisibility potions to lure the bad guys to the upstair 08:12 I don't know why I picked giant again lol. It IS fun though, but kinda challenging 08:13 mm... 08:13 you can also play giant samurai now 08:14 i'm used to the no body armor thing because I usually play monks, but no shirt and no suit is rough 08:14 mobiluser: ya! I saw that. Was thinking of trying, but then forgot 08:15 I need to collect those magical staff thingys so I can cast without robe 08:15 Infidel is a new spell caster role 08:17 nice 08:19 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:22 reading the changelog now (I didn't even realize i was playing a new version until the nymph level) 08:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1196 08:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1123 points, T:1222, killed by a hill orc 08:27 bhaak: I don't think there's any rule that the etherpads have to be used for nethack things. 08:30 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 08:33 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Fem Cha), 3240 points, T:1978, killed by a dwarvish spear 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:14858 08:33 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 08:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 859 points, T:497, killed by a small dagger 08:41 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 3219 points, T:1187, killed by a knife 08:44 dammit 3 soldiers in each of the soko prize rooms again (so i see their stuff with object detection) 08:45 is there any way to see what is under them ? 08:46 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 08:48 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 08:48 I don't think there is :( 08:48 I don't think so. Best to quaff object detection the moment you step onto the prize level. 08:48 Not always possible and sometimes I forget. 08:49 there might be some way of tricking monsters to destroy the doors but I don't think we've ever figured out how 08:49 ugh. I'm going to wind up with a cloak or something. I'd be happy with a tool or an amulet 08:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:15713 08:50 could've been much worse 08:50 true 08:50 If you had taming and magic whistle, maybe you could whistle them out 08:50 NOW you tell me ;) 08:50 that's a high iq strategy 08:50 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50 heh 08:50 is it a bug or something? seems kinda bs and it's not the first time it's happened to me 08:51 I can't imagine it being intentional 08:51 K2 pls fixerino 08:51 I've asked that before, I don't think it's a bug 08:51 quaff object detection asap 08:52 before the monsters spawn in the prize rooms 08:52 imo evilhack should copy dnh's prize solution and put mimics on top of the prizes 08:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Ana Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2254 08:52 it happens because when the zoo picks a group monster to spawn and it's nearly finished filling itself at the time, the additional group monsters go wherever they can fit, which is into the prize rooms. 08:52 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:52 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:52697 08:53 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:52705 08:53 in vanilla that can be a problem as well as some things can yoink the prize and walk around 08:54 this is why you sometimes get a soko zoo corridor filled with hill orcs 08:54 at least in vanilla markers exist randomly 08:54 YANI: in zoo-like rooms, spawn monsters with MM_NOGRP 08:55 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:52846 08:55 faster fix is to just slap mimics on the prizes 08:55 lol 08:55 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 08:56 I think I found a way to make vampire pets useful for Infidels 08:57 Kill the bat/fog cloud/wolf etc form to release the useful vampire 08:57 I think Infidel get no penalty for killing pets 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1840 08:58 is there any info somewhere about this infidel role ? 09:00 -!- zhangoke has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:01 1: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack new section Infidel 09:02 ah of course. ty 09:02 2: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Tomsod/YANIs_and_patches/Infidel the original non-evil page 09:03 some things are different in evilhack, eg you don't start with a magic marker 09:03 of course you don't lol 09:03 :-) 09:03 looks really crazy/cool though! 09:04 It is! 09:04 are player monsters always trying to steal the amulet ? 09:04 i guess you don't carry it with you 09:05 Yes, and there are also enemy "agents" and "champions" that spawn 09:05 oh in evilhack you can't cast spells without the amulet ;-) 09:05 -!- musicdemon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:07 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:53130 09:07 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:53132 09:07 You can take off cursed stuff, makes it easy to quickly try things without worrying about BUC 09:07 <{Demo}> weldproof 09:08 ah yes that's the word, thx 09:08 <{Demo}> is the intervariant lingo for that property 09:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 premium heart", on T:7332 09:26 <@bubbles> hmm, this is almost always my first wish 09:26 same 09:28 mobileuser: were you saying to drink an uncursed potion of invis to get that timeout effect or cursed? 09:29 I only ever tried cursed because of the attract boss thing 09:30 When K2 is here we can ask him... 09:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Inf Orc Mal Una), 363 points, T:595, killed by a dagger 09:31 maybe eating a stalker of zapping wand of invis works too, they should all start a timer running... 09:35 hmmm that's a good idea too 09:35 I was going to drop extra rings down a sink but I like saving rings to polypile 09:36 i'm not sure I can even throw stuff into the shop because the guy stands at the entrance when you're invisible 09:37 maybe i can teleport in and drop stuff. I don't remember how they treat you when you're invisible and I don't have teleport control anyway (or maybe i do and don't knw) 09:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law), 685 points, T:1524, killed by a rothe, while praying 09:37 I think it's bs that they don't trust invisible customers personally 09:38 especially as they'll happily become invisible themselves 09:38 and moreover I'm pretty sure they have see invisible 09:38 <@bubbles> sweeet learned andre as an ana 09:40 amateurhour: yeah. It makes it kind of a puzzle though (if you are playing unspoiled) to figure out that you need to wear a mummy wrapping 09:41 it just really screws over giants (which obviously you can't play in vanilla) 09:42 Eventually I will get a helm of brilliance and learn identify and enjoying murdering all the shopkeepers who are pretending they can't see invisible 09:42 amateurhour: oh they do trust invisible customers once they get into the shop. 09:42 teleport in? no problem 09:42 <@bubbles> Yeah it's weird they trust binders too 09:42 <@bubbles> they will buy/sell from binders who are a couple of tiles away from them 09:42 <@bubbles> even if they would reject otherwise 09:42 oh wow right when i said that I found a randomized helmet.. hmmm 09:42 <@bubbles> Maybe it is just some seals can only be seen up close 09:45 <@bubbles> if I enter the quest as ana will that start the countdown to sara getting killed? 09:45 <@bubbles> Or does it onlyu progress when I am on the level 09:47 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 30004 points, T:1524, killed by a giant ant 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of silver gloves called fencing FC entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:17840 09:49 fencing FC? 09:50 Fumble/C??? perhaps? 09:52 they were gauntlets of power 09:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1229 points, T:2231, poisoned by an orcish arrow 09:52 but i had named them FC (found cursed) 09:53 i found a pair on the ground before and thought maybe they were fumbling gloves 09:54 like with rings I do that because then when you price id you can guess when a ring is teleprot or polymorph etc 09:54 although it obviously isn't always right 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:18293 10:00 <@bubbles> oh yeah I always do that with gloves/boots/hats 10:00 <@bubbles> if they are cursed I put them as (bad??) 10:01 poison instakill is bs 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19412 10:02 just a daily reminder that only the sadistic and depraved like it as a mechanic 10:02 bhaak go ahead 10:08 Hi K2! 10:09 o/ 10:09 mornin' 10:10 Did you see the invis discussion in the scrollback K2? 10:10 a bit 10:11 what was the problem exactly? 10:11 that it sucks ass to be a giant and become permanently invisible in the early game 10:11 lol 10:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 93486 points, T:10069, killed by a bullet 10:11 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 37079 points, T:4234, killed by a black unicorn 10:11 <@bubbles> Should not have done that 10:11 did you step on a magic trap to become perm invis? 10:11 <@bubbles> quaff testing pots can do it to 10:12 not intentionally 10:12 @bubbles not in evilhack 10:12 <@bubbles> ah non-perm? 10:12 <@bubbles> gotcha 10:12 magic traps can give perm invis but they can also take it away 10:12 nothing to fix here 10:12 so does quaffing invis or zapping self with invis always start a timer? 10:12 yeah 10:13 right, so that is the solution for giants then 10:13 yup 10:13 thx 10:13 did u see the sokoban chat as well 10:14 ah yeahthe mimic idea 10:14 not really 10:14 * K2 is still waking up 10:15 !coffee K2 10:15 * Beholder passes K2 a cup of cafe latte, replicated by demogorgon at 63 degrees Celsius. 10:16 !zorkmidbribe K2 10:21 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2313 10:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1512 10:21 amateurhour: giants should still be able to wear a mummy wrapping imo 10:22 only if from a giant mummy 10:22 the mummy wrapping doesn't have to cover your whole torso, it just sort of needs to indicate that there's something invisible here 10:23 to that end, other large polyforms should also be able to put one on (but polying INTO a large form while wearing one should still break it... because you would have wrapped it to your old size) 10:23 a normal mummy wrapping for a giant would cover its pinky. maybe 10:24 just how big are you imagining giants 10:24 they are mz_huge 10:24 I think they're no more than 14-18 feet tall at most 10:24 not imagining anything 10:24 and a mummy wrapping is looooooong 10:24 i'm not changing mummy wrapping 10:24 giant race is difficult in many ways, this is one of them 10:25 YANI: Make armor delay for mummy wrapping several turns, because you can't just pop it on like a regular cloak 10:25 i did quaff invisible and it said i had a strange feeling that passes, but I guess i needed to do it with cursed invisible ? 10:26 <@bubbles> is investing into lightsaber worth it for incantifier? 10:26 cursed invisible doesn't make you uninvisible 10:26 it's the timer that gets set aosdict 10:26 YANI: Giant mimics have a digest engulf attack. 10:26 arguably a bug in that after the temp source runs out you become uninvisible 10:27 its a feature... 10:27 either way it's a frustrating workaround 10:27 wat 10:27 that is not how intrinsics are supposed to work 10:27 yeah lol 10:27 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 32092 points, T:3101, killed by an invisible tourist called "groovejumper" 10:27 what is the source of the perm invis again? 10:27 magic trap? 10:27 ye 10:27 yeah 10:28 you have two solutions, park your ass on magic trap repeatedly (source of early game death) 10:28 i went back and messed with the trap again but it disappeared 10:28 or #quit 10:28 or abuse a possible bug with timers 10:28 threw the quit in there as an optional bonus 10:28 not quitting 10:29 <{Demo}> it's not quitting, it's a tactical retreat from that game 10:30 i'm doing ok for not knowing what anything is.. I figure it's practice for Slex... 10:31 lol slex doesn't do that 10:31 amateurhour: in my wizmode evilhack game, I got invisible from a magic trap and then drank a cursed potion of invisibility and waited 1300 turns and am still invisible 10:31 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 10:31 so idk where this timer bug thing is coming from 10:32 maybe it's been patched out? 10:32 can't see it in commit messages 10:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Mal Una) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:22648 10:32 to the wizmobile myself 10:33 "Use this gift ominously!" lol 10:39 it's harder to get wraiths to chase me too 10:39 i care way less about that though... once I get teleport control I can teleport into the general store and i should be all set 10:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 671 points, T:1471, killed by a dwarf 10:43 huh yeah I can't reproduce in wizard mode 10:43 but we've seen it happen in previous versions 10:43 (not in wizard mode) 10:44 maybe we were mistaken and each time the person coincidentally stood on another magic trap? 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:22271 10:47 mobileuser do you recall it happening for you? 10:47 hmmm I guess if I put on a teleport ring w/out controll I'll eventually end up in the general store 10:48 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 10:50 [hdf-au] [spl] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Reader, on T:12253 10:51 wtf happened here, qt? 10:52 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:55 [hdf-au] [spl] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) destroyed qt the baobhan-sith, and former Esquire, on T:12359 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1434 points, T:674, killed by a warg 10:58 amateurhour I noticed this a couple of times in my games when I had quaffed cursed invis. After some time (sooner/later) I would lose my permanent invis. 10:59 i was able to teleport into the store 11:00 There is always the possibility that I was totally wrong 11:00 can't reproduce in wizard mode :S 11:00 rebatela \o/ 11:00 tried reproducing in 0.5.0 as well, there must be something we're missing 11:00 I seem to remember that K2 reproduced it in a previous version... 11:01 yeah I remember something like that too 11:01 can't see anything obvious in commit history 11:02 well at least it can't be recommended as a cure for invis 11:03 i'm curious about that eating the stalker thing 11:03 that was only a guess on my part... 11:07 timing-out temporary invis should not remove permanent invis unless K2 messed with the timeout code 11:08 <@bubbles> What does "golden delicately filigreed stiletto" mean? 11:08 <@bubbles> it is already identified 11:08 it means amy has been reaching into dnh 11:09 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 11:10 maybe something with save/reload could be relevant but I really cba checking 11:10 time for a nice relaxing game of slex 11:10 aosdict it might, but if it does time out perm invis (or perm see invis) that wasnt intentional. its a feature i pulled over from spork 11:12 <@bubbles> ah fuck you know when you are gonna die and there is nowt you can do about it 😕 11:13 are you in one of those situations now? 11:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 53419 points, T:7377, killed by a dingo 11:13 <@bubbles> yes 11:13 ah 11:13 <@bubbles> got stunned and no health 11:13 <@bubbles> such is life 11:13 such is death 11:13 oh good I ID'd all my scrolls and then fell in the water 11:13 <@bubbles> we live and learn, or in dnh we die and we learn. 11:14 <@bubbles> 😄 11:14 <@bubbles> I cannot believe I drowned on water plane last night 11:14 ouch 11:14 i guess it's better than taking the dip before I price id'd them 11:14 <@bubbles> that was a 100% ascension, I got so so lucky and found a lightsaber as a binder 11:14 bubbles: that sucks :( 11:14 <@bubbles> so I could dual wield with pen of the void and miska 11:14 <@bubbles> I thought enki let me swim for some reason 11:14 I've died on water plane in EH before 11:14 <@bubbles> Or on plane of water can you not swim with your head above water 11:14 <@bubbles> Yolo! 11:15 <@bubbles> If I had one slighty cry it would be after the "oLS you should have your breath counter reset 11:15 <@bubbles> but yeah 11:17 <@bubbles> omg wait I am an orc I can use a goblin for chupo I am so stupid 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Geryon (5 times), on T:38703 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:13483 11:25 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed the valkyrie of nabru, the former Fighter, on T:1289 11:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Mal Non), 4000 points, T:2015, killed by a gnome king 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Geryon (10 times), on T:38718 11:34 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:35 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:36 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Mal Non), 730 points, T:2583, killed by an exploding wand 11:38 <@bubbles> 😦 trying to poly my pet 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13970 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] filthy (Val Dwa Fem Law), 129 points, T:1249, killed by the wrath of Tyr 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] filthy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:10, killed by the wrath of Anhur 11:45 -!- Guest95799 is now known as math 11:45 <@bubbles> yeah it is weird that you can buy/sell stuff if you make it dark enough in a shop 11:45 <@bubbles> but you can't use services 11:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:2846 11:55 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 27046 points, T:2841, killed by brainlessness 11:56 when you start with 3 int most flaying attacks can be rather deadly... 11:58 <@bubbles> put a hat on 11:58 <@bubbles> with brain coveraging 11:58 just be smarter 4head 12:01 <@bubbles> I love it when you convert lawful altars and their god sends you some loot delivered by speed 6 angels 12:02 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] canine (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 152 points, T:344, killed by a coyote 12:06 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 12:08 <@bubbles> Are ghosts supposed to not be visible? 12:14 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:11641 12:17 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 35893 points, T:13046, killed by an ochre jelly 12:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 219 points, T:798, killed by a boulder 12:33 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1570 points, T:3355, killed by a wolf 12:43 <@bubbles> hmmm mordor 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:16012 12:49 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 12:53 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had an etched staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:26537 12:55 staff of matter! Now I just need spellbook of polymorph and helm of brilliance 12:59 i want the staff of war. then i can cast MM and have some sort of ranged attack besides these boulders 13:06 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16701 13:11 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:11 man, the monk quest is so weak... especially considering how hard Kaen is 13:11 the levels are just like the priest quest, but at least the priest quest has a ton of loot in that graveyard 13:12 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 13:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Shelob, on T:11983 13:14 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54082 13:15 <@bubbles> yes but X RAY VISION 13:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:21 bubbles: oh yeah, I love the artifact for sure 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:28502 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28507 13:24 <@bubbles> Where is my mantle of wrath!?! 13:24 <@bubbles> oh it is on a random pile 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3292 13:26 <@bubbles> a golden scorpion-bladed curved sword - this is more random flavour stuff rihgt? 13:29 hahaha "golden delicately filigreed stiletto" ♥♥♥ does it look like this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/30/43/f6304320b14f58ce50b9708985b16057.jpg ? 13:29 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-07-25 11:58 EDT: is there any trap etc that breaks autopickup exceptions? it's just picking up everything :| 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:17944 13:29 lol at the autopickup trap 13:29 amateurhour: yeah, autopickup trap; if you prefix your movements with m, you can circumvent it, but other than that your char will pick up everything, possibly even stuff that will make you burdened 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:18047 13:30 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:54973 13:30 man why is Chris not here, I wanted to ask him whether he likes stiletto heels ♥ 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:67066 13:31 is there any way to start with intelligence higher than like 6? 13:31 actually: @bubbles: do you like stiletto heels? *bubblebubblebubble* ♥ 13:32 amateurhour: in slex? of course, however you're probably playing a role that has generally low starting INT 13:32 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:55249 13:32 for monks, only 10% of starting stats are INT 13:32 just seems a little off to start with like 5 13:33 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55252 13:34 heh, I'm tempted to say my catchphrase now :D 13:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:34 'gtfo scrubs goml hit #quit if ur bad sucka get rekt'? 13:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:35 LOL :D nah, it reads "works as intended" 13:35 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38 ok. I'm about ready for a BoH... Guaranteed in the ice queen realm, right? 13:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Mal Una) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:24245 13:41 yeah rebatela 13:41 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed can of grease", on T:55493 13:41 Even better than a BoH in the new version I think? 13:42 yeah :^) 13:42 MOAR carrying capacity 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Fem Una), 28 points, T:32, killed by a sewer rat 13:44 oh sweet! yeah i saw something about that 13:44 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:3020 13:45 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:55601 13:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:14944 13:45 <@bubbles> get recked scrub! 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:55617 13:46 <@bubbles> not ready for the staircase yet though 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) was given the Shield of the Resolute Heart, on T:114505 13:47 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 2096 points, T:3243, quit 13:48 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:55636 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Mal Una), 246 points, T:419, killed by Ms. Kanturk; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 13:49 -!- myn has joined #hardfought 13:51 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:55662 13:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Lungorthin, on T:15995 13:53 <@bubbles> definitely was not ready for the staircase tbh 13:54 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:55676 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Fem Una), 224 points, T:669, killed by a giant spider 13:54 what do you mean? 13:54 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 1243 points, T:2032, quit 13:55 i guess I should put the pickaxe away... It would be nice to get a weaponless ascension in EH, but somehow i don't see it happening since I plan on this giant using those staffs 13:56 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:55699 13:56 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 29657 points, T:4938, poisoned by a killer bee 13:57 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 449 points, T:706, killed by a monster (invisible serpent magus) 13:58 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:55731 13:59 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "boulder", on T:55739 14:00 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:55775 14:02 <@bubbles> amateurhour the angband orcs were more scary than I thought they would be, so was final bos 14:02 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:55805 14:02 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 27198 points, T:1291, killed by a grid bug, while sleeping and frozen by a spellbook 14:02 <@bubbles> I usually leave staircase for after my quest completion and law quest 14:02 <@bubbles> but I yolo in this case 14:02 What are the angband orcs like? 14:02 <@bubbles> Only way I had of damaging boss was with silver gauntlets 14:02 <@bubbles> How do I make the bot go? 14:03 the angband orcs are horrible 14:03 <@bubbles> they are pretty tough - fast, decent ac, good hp, hit hard 14:03 <@bubbles> Main problem is they have "morgol" blades 14:03 <@bubbles> which put a permanent (but curable) debuff on you 14:03 yeah 14:03 <@bubbles> But now it is time to pray it away! 14:03 ooof 14:03 they run away from Elbereth though 14:03 <@bubbles> "You feel that the void is well-pleased. The chill of death fades away." 14:03 <@bubbles> Honestly the fact you can pray it away means it is pretty meh 14:03 I got splatted in the sanctum once waiting for the wizard to appear 14:04 <@bubbles> splatted by orcs? 14:04 because a hoarde of angband orcs and orcs of the stars or whatever spawned 14:04 [hdf-eu] [nh343] myn (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 3484826 points, T:55824, ascended 14:04 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/myn/nh343/dumplog/1595532464.nh343.txt 14:04 going down the stairs to get into the sanctum I took between 250 and 350 damage 14:04 <@bubbles> gratz myn! 14:04 gratz myn! 14:04 and so. ranger is maybe my favorite class. thanks 14:04 <@bubbles> of the stars are high enough level they can actually hit 14:04 congratulations myn, both for ascending and for playing ♥vanilla♥ :) 14:04 <@bubbles> My first ever ascension was elf ranger 14:05 <@bubbles> wielding stormbringer! 14:05 got lucky with 2 bones so i got magical stuff early 14:05 <@bubbles> there were probably about 4 years between me startging to play and ascending the first time 14:05 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 56 points, T:440, killed by a scroll of wounds 14:06 lots of variants here! 14:08 Discussion: How much would NetHack change with Angband’s stairs system? (Once you leave a level, it is gone forever) 14:08 unwinnable because no ascension run :P 14:09 :P 14:09 "guess I'm stuck here in the sanctum forever. Moloch really knows what's up." 14:09 myn: congrats! 14:10 someone should make a variant named "trollhack" that is unwinnable. oh wait, there was such a variant, its name rhymed with trollhack, and there even was a tournament! :P 14:10 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 136 points, T:2039, killed by a monster (guard) 14:10 To be clear, you can go back to a previous level, but it is always generated anew. 14:10 (also congrats myn!) 14:10 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 21351 points, T:1216, killed by a small mimic 14:11 i'm trying to get my older brother to play nethack/variants. He used to be a HUGE Angband guy with the non-persistent levels (or whatevers it's called) 14:11 what if you drop the bell or something on a level then leave 14:11 I played moria when I was a kid, but it was so long ago (played rogue and hack too lol) 14:11 do holes/levelporters just stop working? 14:13 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 11344 points, T:463, killed by a fox 14:13 I was hugely against non-persistent levels until I got into Sil, and then I ended up really loving them 14:14 from my brief experience in unnethack's non persistent branch, they're pretty meh 14:14 seems like a lot of grinding.. Not that that's a bad thing. Nethack levels are pretty boring once you've already cleared them 14:15 how does angband make it anti grindy? I assume unlike in nethack, a random enemy can't just death drop any possible item in the game? 14:15 <@bubbles> I think vanilla has a bit of a pacing problem in the midgame, and then again in gehenom, both places dnh fixes for me 14:15 <@bubbles> Like you have the alignment quests to beef up the midgame, and also vault hunting! 14:15 I haven’t played much angband, but Sil implmenets a “minimum depth” that slowly increases, so you end up constantly working to outrun that. 14:16 <@bubbles> ps: mordor without drain resistance wasn't that fun 14:17 variant that rhymes with trollhack had more ascensions than slex in junethack amy :^) 14:17 i think in angband there are return scrolls or something so that you can go back and forth between the town and wherever you were without having to go through levels again 14:17 amateurhour: yeah but back when it had its own tournament, it was unascendable (and ascension was the condition for winning) :P 14:17 i've never really played though. I remember moria was written in pascal originally 14:18 at this point slex might be the unwinnable one :^) 14:18 why? porkman streaked it not too long ago and I didn't make any major structural changes that could have broken critical stuff like the ritual 14:18 (since he ascended, that is) 14:18 you deleted his strategies didn't you? 14:19 lol "deleted", well nerfed :P 14:19 also his ascensions are missing from the xlogfile, so pics/didn't happen 14:19 ;^) 14:19 I found the dumplogs for them btw, so it's not lost to history 14:20 what did you nerf? did he figure out some OP strategy? 14:21 well I nerfed all kinds of stuff, way too many to list here, but you can look at the version history to see what changed between 2.61 (version he ascended) and 2.66 (version currently available) 14:21 oh, nothing in particular then 14:21 I thought maybe he'd figured out something like combine x with y and you'd be unkillable or something 14:22 nah, no autowin exploits involved in his ascensions 14:22 just things that made the game easier than I wanted it to be, on the whole 14:22 stuff like certain spells becoming practically spammable with a good enough spellcaster char despite them being very strong 14:23 have you ascended slex on hdf, amy? 14:23 nope 14:23 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Ent Fem Cha), 4492 points, T:2035, killed by a shotgun shell 14:23 and I know K2 wants me to :D 14:23 and when someone does, you change the rules? lol 14:23 -!- myn has left #hardfought 14:24 it's my variant, I change whatever I want to change :P 14:24 for sure 14:24 i love it, for the little bit I've played 14:24 Amy could you take a peek at my current game, just wondering why these floors aren't soko 14:25 like are they meant to be special levels of some kind 14:25 of course porkman didn't like that aspect at all, and resolved to not playing at all anymore... his loss :D 14:25 amateurhour: you're on the plane of fire (well, a clone of it) 14:25 I just want to know what I'm getting into. If you're trying to make it impossible to win, it's good to know 14:25 and now you're in a bigroom 14:25 rebatela: naaaaah that's not my plan 14:25 ah okay, so they are special levels 14:25 yeah, special levels don't get replaced with soko levels 14:25 this big room had 2 enemies in 14:26 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 14:26 so I was really confused, expecting there to be some kind of boss monster on right hand side 14:26 yeah slex also has an "empty big room" special level 14:26 big room, small pop 14:26 which is exactly what it says on a tin :D 14:26 well I want my money back as there were 2 enemies! 14:26 K2: thanks 14:27 another 14:27 lol 14:27 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 14:27 dlvl6 in your game is the nymph level; if you can kill the nymph queen, you get an artifact that lets you branchport! 14:28 -!- Heliokopis has joined #hardfought 14:28 nice 14:28 is she souped up and megaevil? 14:29 @le?the nymph queen 14:29 No such monster. 14:29 @le?nymph queen 14:29 nymph queen (n) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: unique | AC: 8 | Attacks: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Alignment: 0 | Flags: teleports, nopoly 14:29 well, just a slightly stronger nymph 14:29 doesn't sound very bad 14:29 That doesn’t seem too bad 14:29 she's in the center of that spiral, and the level allows teleportation 14:30 not got any ways to teleport other than phase door 14:30 not even been to the mines yet 14:31 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 14:31 i figured out how to turn the wall glyphs on. That was driving me crazy for some reason 14:31 off* 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon (5 times), on T:38750 14:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:32 rebatela: why didn't you just ask me? I could have told you how to do that ;) 14:32 [hdf-us] [fh] Banana (BoatsandJoes) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 68697 points, T:11373, killed by touching Excalibur 14:32 i thought I'd get used to it, but it didn't happen quick enough 14:33 i like the tie dyed stuff or whatever tho 14:33 well, if you ever want them back, you now know how to turn them back on :D 14:33 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed the nymph queen, on T:1927 14:33 yaaaaaay well done amateurhour :) 14:33 w00t 14:33 now you have a key of access that lets you branchport at will (with a timeout of course)! 14:34 reminds me I now I have both eyes and Pyec in my evilhack game. I hope I don't do something stupid 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon (10 times), on T:38764 14:35 does it do anything else than branchport? 14:35 uhh what does the description say? I think not 14:35 this is another special level of some form btw 14:35 doesn't say anything as haven't formally id'd it 14:35 ah 14:35 demogorgon farming ? 14:36 seems you have a dungeon that has especially many special levels this time 14:36 don't think I've managed to find the mines btw 14:36 unless I'm blind 14:36 maybe you also have the dungeon where branch entrances are placed completely randomly :D 14:36 does it do anything else? He's going to die before he reaches a second branch 14:36 but how come everything is gray in your game? 14:36 ...is that a thing? 14:37 that floor is the rogue level 14:37 (I'm making fun of the game, not you amateurhour) 14:37 amateurhour: yes, there's 8 different dungeon.def files; most of the time you get the regular dungeon, but occasionally you get a special one 14:37 this looks like the blacksmith from TNG 14:37 this dlvl7 is the forge; you can talk to Duri the blacksmith, who has a bunch of services 14:37 I just wanted to do soko puzzles lol what is this 14:38 <@BoatsandJoes> !lastgame FIQHack BoatsandJoes 14:38 @BoatsandJoes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BoatsandJoes/fiqhack/dumplog/2020-07-26%2018%3A32%3A31%2C%20Banana-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt 14:38 heh, I'm afraid that in slex, wanting something and actually getting that something are sometimes rather far apart ;) 14:39 actually... amateurhour: are you sure you're playing sokosolver and didn't start specialist by mistake? 14:39 uh Amy, the space base doesn't appear to have stairs and is also not a soko puzzle 14:39 yeah I'm sure, I put sokosolver in my slexrc 14:40 ugh 14:40 <@bubbles> I think I goofed and burnt too many slots early 😕 14:40 no downstairs?! that... seems like a bug 14:40 maybe you'll recognise the floor? 14:40 well I've seen it before, but no idea where it's from 14:42 so uh, is this branch uncompletable then? 14:42 not sure, you might still be able to dig down or levelport 14:42 if I had access to the mines I'd try it :^) 14:42 <@bubbles> HMM - morgoth's shard is sustain ability 14:42 not a bad one to get really bubbles 14:44 sustain ability 14:44 the only protection against mind flayers 14:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given their Quest, on T:17656 14:46 wow. I've never even thought of that. do you still get amnesia? 14:49 <@riker> yes 14:49 <@riker> I guess now it fully protects 14:49 amateurhour: I'll look into that particular special level, seems like a bug that there is no downstair. 14:50 trying to clear it out to explore in case there's a teleportal or something instead 14:50 teams of grimlocks are fairly nasty though 14:50 there's a dwarf king that might have a pickaxe 14:51 nah, either there's a downstair or no way forward (well a randomly generated levelporter maybe) 14:55 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 14:56 urrrrrrrgh 14:56 found it, and it seems like a genuine bug 14:56 the level is Ana-3 and the stair is placed at 37,09 which is a water tile... 14:57 amateurhour: that center water tile, that's where the stair down should be. you can try to hover over it and press > but if that does not work, it's a major bug that needs fixing 14:57 any idea how I'm getting so many special levels as well, or is that separate? 14:57 if I manage to survive to get over there I'll let you know if it works :P 14:57 not sure, would need to see the next few space base levels 14:59 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:02 there's something that drains int between me and the stairs/water 15:02 no range attacks yet 15:02 lol 15:02 just avoid it, it won't line itself up to you 15:02 (like a unicorn) 15:03 god this is stressful 15:03 I don't want to throw it away because science 15:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2798 15:06 ugh I don't have flying atm Amy 15:06 something kept draining my alignment 15:06 gaaaaaaaaaaaah 15:06 I'll come back once flying 15:06 can't check current alignment 15:06 and I guess no way to free the boulders so you can plug the water? 15:06 <@bubbles> oh wow a glass fish bowl!! 15:06 oh cool that trap made boulders! now you can probably do it :D 15:06 lol 15:07 icky face is near boulders 15:07 hopefully you can plug the center water square 15:07 oh that stupid thing again 15:08 it asks whether you want to "fly" into a trap... and yet you still cannot fly? 15:08 why are traps spawning around me 15:08 what did I do to deserve this 15:08 didn't watch everything but apparently something spawned them 15:09 could have been a monster attack, or a scroll/wand, or a random bad effect... several possibilities 15:09 this is scuffed 15:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 9407 points, T:3355, killed by a gnome lord 15:10 thing I need to abort and come back later 15:10 <@bubbles> Ah ackerack doesn't announce in here ever 15:10 <@bubbles> hmm 15:10 <{Demo}> ok that's fucky 15:10 <{Demo}> I thought you'd just happened to kill him in a way that was fucked 15:10 ah I'll just take the luck penalty and read scroll of earth amy 15:10 :) 15:11 <@bubbles> Seems it just doesn't announce ever 15:11 stairs are there 15:11 oh my god it worked??? 15:11 <@bubbles> Also the trees -> acerecak 15:11 <@bubbles> lol 15:11 that's incredible 15:11 <{Demo}> spell his name right so I can search 15:11 but still, I don't want invisible stairs on a water tile, so I already fixed it for the next version :) thanks for finding it! 15:11 <{Demo}> idk how to spell it 15:11 <{Demo}> and I don't feel like moving 15:11 A-c-e-r-e-r-a-k 15:12 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 15:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Shield of the Resolute Heart, on T:19610 15:12 <{Demo}> damn wtf 15:13 <{Demo}> there's no livelogs of him dying as far back as my history goes 15:13 <@bubbles> Hmm, maybe these are actually quite good for me? 15:13 <{Demo}> and it goes back like more than 2 and a half years 15:17 -!- leviyatan has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 15:20 at least some of the space base was soko puzzles, I had to nope outta there 15:21 and you helped me by finding a (thankfully minor) bug, which is now fixed in the development version :) 15:21 if > had not worked on that tile, it would be a major bug 15:22 do you recognise this special floor? 15:22 I'm back in dungeons of doom, branchported out of space base 15:22 dlvl9? just a maze with some rooms 15:22 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 15:22 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:22 and why is it not a soko puzzle? 15:22 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 15:23 uhh apparently because the RNG decided to place a maze, it seems you really have a dungeon that is mostly special levels 15:23 I thought sokosolver was meant to be 'all floors are soko unless special' 15:24 it is! but apparently most levels are special this time 15:24 is a maze level special then? 15:24 in this case yes, because normally mazes wouldn't appear that early 15:26 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1695 points, T:1763, killed by a sewer rat, while paralyzed 15:27 <{Demo}> slex is special 15:29 can't progress without a pickaxe :| 15:31 why not? you're on the downstair, or does that lead to a level that requires digging? 15:31 had to use my remaining phase door scrolls 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Fem Una), 388 points, T:676, killed by Mr. Inuvik; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 15:31 path from upstairs is blocked both ways by boulders 15:31 squeeze :D 15:32 I'd like to reach non-negative luck eventually :| 15:32 heh 15:32 anyway, I'll be afk for a while now 15:32 might as well play as that hybrid race that has perma min luck 15:32 and thanks again for finding the bug :) 15:33 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:36 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:43 <@bubbles> level 23 and doing sokoban like some kind of peasant... 😦 15:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:24037 15:49 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed Arthur Dent, on T:4596 15:49 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed Mr. Prosser, on T:4600 15:49 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed the invisible sendewey lich, on T:4605 15:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:3080 15:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3122 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:69316 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:69317 15:55 [hdf-us] [slex] Friar Tuck IV (musicdemon) (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47341 15:56 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 15:56 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 15:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:69439 15:58 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 47780 points, T:5058, killed by brainlessness 15:58 douglas adams ate my brain 15:58 curses! 15:58 my 2nd longest slex run is slowing ticking down 15:59 what's happening? 15:59 I died once as the Rodneyan race due to my own stupidity. This race has 'periolous lifesaving', which means you revive -2 lvls with no items or spells 15:59 ah yeah, it's not worth continuing after that usually 15:59 I can still unconditionally teleport, but I'm terminally Ill 16:00 got prayer? 16:00 nah, I'm in Gehennom 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Cav Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2473 16:00 got any sort of branchporting? 16:00 I have no items, lol 16:00 oh yeah, lol 16:00 except the imbued bell which can't be deleted 16:01 I think there might be a way to cure my sickness in this level. Will a well do it? 16:01 or a sink? 16:01 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 16:01 to vomit or something? 16:02 oh, I can use a toilet 16:02 mobileuser: are you playing infidel? 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:69631 16:03 if I can somehow make it out of this lvl, I have a stash 5 lvls above 16:04 if rngesus wills it you could kick a tree and get eucalyptus 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Cav Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3064 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 1923 points, T:3118, killed by a killer bee, while sleeping 16:06 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:69738 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:69740 16:09 Hi rebatela, yes, Infidel 16:10 You still playing giant monk? 16:11 You were on your way to the ice queen I think? 16:11 oh i see "unaligned" 16:12 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12 when did this new version come out? 16:12 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 16:13 not long ago... 16:14 !tell LarienTelrunya nothing in my dumplog seems to suggest special levels would be more often (not sure if it's meant to) 16:14 I'm on it, amateurhour. 16:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8086 16:14 2020-07-20 :-) 16:15 how're you finding it so far mobileuser? 16:15 [hdf-us] [slex] Friar Tuck IV (musicdemon) (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47375 16:15 FUN \o/ 16:15 interesting challenges, you need to break some habits 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1539 points, T:2050, killed by an ape 16:17 [hdf-us] [slex] Friar Tuck IV (musicdemon) (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47394 16:17 I think it makes a big difference if you find a non-chaotic altar early on to convert with same race sac 16:17 !tell LarienTelrunya also I just found a food ration inside a bag inside a bag 16:17 I'm on it, amateurhour. 16:18 ah yeah, that's probably much easier for orcs 16:18 certainly not easy for illithid... 16:18 [hdf-us] [slex] Friar Tuck IV (musicdemon) (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47402 16:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Axus, on T:28270 16:18 I suspect orc is the easiest infidel 16:19 Maybe there is an argument to be made to make Mine's town the Orc version always for Infidel. 16:19 For the Moloch altar 16:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 2737 points, T:1190, killed by a vrock of Anhur, while praying 16:23 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 66 points, T:216, killed by a shotgun shell 16:24 <@bubbles> hmm angels have souls? 16:24 [hdf-us] [slex] Friar Tuck IV (musicdemon) (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47455 16:25 [hdf-us] [slex] Friar Tuck IV (musicdemon) (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47461 16:25 <@bubbles> OOOH: plat drag 16:25 nice 16:26 <@bubbles> I guess that answers that question 16:27 <@bubbles> miska first though 16:27 <@bubbles> I am not sure why I cleared chaos and quest before miska 🤔 16:27 <@bubbles> must have been mad 16:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Oona, on T:28915 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1825 16:28 <@bubbles> oh nice royal sword 16:28 <@bubbles> miska fodder 16:28 <@riker> ARS is godtier 16:28 <@riker> also @bubbles miska wont swing either ARS or yhatalla 16:28 <@bubbles> "The Tulani Eladrin's mask breaks! The polypoid being breaks out of its armor!" ? 16:28 <@bubbles> riker because they are 2h? 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed MHL's ghost, the former Wanderer, on T:2011 16:29 <@bubbles> wait no oen isn't 16:29 <@bubbles> because they are lawful? 16:29 <@riker> yes for ARS 16:29 <@riker> but its bc they need to be offhandable 16:29 <@bubbles> Why did the purple A break? 16:29 <@riker> not for wt but for artifactness 16:29 <@bubbles> ahhhhhh 16:29 <@bubbles> I feel you 16:29 <@riker> and in like 1/16 of games they're polypoids in disguise 16:29 <@riker> like a permanent shapeshifter - uses masks 16:30 <@bubbles> boooo 16:30 <@bubbles> Can you tame them 16:30 <@bubbles> and put queen of stars mask on them??? 16:30 <@riker> has insight limit in it's true form 16:30 <@riker> and they should be banned from uniques 16:30 <@bubbles> so only lillend can use that 16:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5193 16:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible zoya's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5193 16:30 <@bubbles> fair enough 16:30 <@bubbles> I dunno if I can be bothered taming lillend and dragging it round 16:31 <@bubbles> hmm is there no lava on lae quest? 16:31 <@bubbles> lava* 16:31 <@bubbles> I thought htere was a room somewhere 16:32 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Pri Rod Mal Cha), 1618836 points, T:47461, killed by a monster (creeping garnet gems), while helpless 16:32 Never pray in Hell | Items vaporized to dust | Rodney melts away 16:32 <@bubbles> you can pray if you are binder!!! 16:32 rip 16:32 <@bubbles> Don't align to the false gods!!! 16:33 'oh, I'm sick. I'll just pray and not use any of my 10 thousand other methods of curing it'. why, me. why 16:33 <@riker> not in slex bubbles 16:33 <@riker> heretic race can tho 16:33 <@bubbles> 😮 16:33 <@bubbles> oh I could have soul sucked oona 16:33 <@bubbles> would have been fun 16:33 <@riker> heretics are literally humans with that ability iirc 16:33 14th place overall. Not bad for a Lost Soul 16:34 nice one musicdemon 16:34 got any tips for a slex noob? 16:34 alright I'm back, and heard several pinging sounds, did anything important happen while I was gone? 16:34 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-07-26 16:14 EDT: nothing in my dumplog seems to suggest special levels would be more often (not sure if it's meant to) 16:34 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-07-26 16:17 EDT: also I just found a food ration inside a bag inside a bag 16:34 amateurhour: the dumplog won't mention that, and the food ration thing works as intended :) 16:35 ah bags inside bags are intended? 16:35 was just reminded of dnh having chests inside of chests 16:35 amateurhour: I recently made this page. You might pick up a few new things :) https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Musicdemon/SLEX_Hints 16:35 cheers musicdemon, greatly appreciated 16:36 <@bubbles> was it a recent change that you could swap alignment spirits without drain? 16:36 I need to figure out how to raise int, because Douglas Adams p much one turn killed me 16:36 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 16:36 eating monster corpses that have int stealing attacks is one of the only ways to reliably increase it 16:37 <@riker> vaguely recent 16:37 ah I'm sort of by default vegan 16:37 musicdemon: he's somehow playing vegan conduct, which I already told him is a bad idea because it makes INT very hard to increase 16:37 <@bubbles> good change 16:38 <@bubbles> HMM: how to get the stuff out of these shops without andro being mad at me? 16:38 yeah well like there's any chance to increase int before the first mob you encounter gets you lol 16:38 most games I seem to start with 5 int so what do 16:38 hey this time you at least started with 7! 16:39 also wear a helmet, that helps a lot against INT drain attacks ;) 16:39 woo might be able to survive a round 16:39 FWIW, I had 5 INT for about 30K turns. It was bad, but I found ways around it 16:40 musicdemon: RIP and thank you for that link too! (also a slex noob) 16:40 got the giant soko floor again 16:40 wish me luck 16:40 ooof 16:40 <@bubbles> riker miska will attack even if I'm not acatually dual wield right? 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6158 points, T:3366, killed by a vampire lord in wolf form, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:41 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:41 <@riker> attack with what 16:42 <@riker> the 2 offhand arms? yeah at xp26+ 16:42 <@riker> the normal offhand? no 16:42 <@bubbles> yeah the 2offhand arms 16:42 <@riker> yea if you have them available 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 506 points, T:1455, killed by a hobbit 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:71613 16:44 <@bubbles> plat gives too many pots 16:45 <{Demo}> play ndnh if u want it to have like half as many 16:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:30106 16:45 <@bubbles> I just feel like it is so binary between getting it or not 16:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2001 16:46 <@bubbles> Doesn't even make things easier(much), just accelrates the game way fast 16:49 YANI: Minor artifact which is a weapon with no bonuses (or a small bonus like grimtooth), but it is a curse lightning rod like Magicbane, except that a curse items effect causes it to become cursed. If already cursed, the curse items effect affects you normally. Invoking it removes the curse from itself. 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:71801 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3933 points, T:5282, killed by a gnome lady 16:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:31281 16:58 have to go to sleep now, early tour tomorrow 17:00 <@riker> cya amy 17:00 night :) 17:00 <@riker> bundlebundle? 17:00 thanks guys! good night! bundlebundlebundle ♥ 17:01 (buuuuuuundle) 17:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:70190 17:04 sleep well 17:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 22210 points, T:2663, petrified by a dwarf 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:70223 17:05 <@bubbles> aosdict if it was guaranteed but guarded on a branch that would be even better - less rng but risk 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:70242 17:07 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:07 @bubbles I'm tired of the idea of "gotta put a shiny thing as a reward at the end of a new branch" 17:08 I read this as "put a shiny ring" 17:08 <@bubbles> random drop or something? 17:08 <@bubbles> Maybe make it a non-arti? 17:08 <@bubbles> or something like a charged wand 17:08 <@bubbles> or something like a charged wand 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:70359 17:08 <@bubbles> each curse absorbed consumes a charge 17:08 <@bubbles> (but make it heavy) 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:70373 17:09 yo aosdict that sounds suspiciously like my artifact wand of nothing YANI 17:10 so there's at least one person who thinks it sounds mint 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:72144 17:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Mal Una) made his first wish - "cursed fixed +2 Grimtooth", on T:26737 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:72154 17:15 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Chirurgeon, on T:70505 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:70528 17:20 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Mal Law), 3431908 points, T:72193, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1595090220.nh.html 17:21 gg Bliss56 17:21 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:23 nice! 17:23 grats bliss 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:70746 17:25 gratz Bliss56 ! 17:26 Thanks, guys 17:26 Note the male valk? 17:27 That 17:27 s what I get for trying on jewelry. 17:27 the crown jewels, as it were. 17:28 lmao, Muad 17:28 and a pendant... as it were 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1431 17:29 heh 17:29 grats Bliss56 17:29 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:30 Thanks 17:31 <@Asreal> what's a good spellcaster for newbies? (yes, i know i should be playing a martial class but i wanna Shoot Large Spell) 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2069 points, T:2194, killed by a kitten 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of restore ability", on T:70803 17:31 <@Asreal> i kind of want to play an orc wizard but orcs dumb 17:32 knights can Shoot Large Spell in the late game in principle 17:32 <@bubbles> oh gratz bliss again 17:33 <@bubbles> ARGH I just want to be crowned 17:33 <@bubbles> is that so hard 😦 17:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:11299 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2138 17:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11451 17:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) became the Emissary of Elements, on T:36770 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 3200221 points, T:70941, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1595199736.nh.html 17:42 gratz oh6! 17:42 thanks, amateurhour! 17:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 17756 points, T:2262, killed by a priest of Moloch 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 9332 points, T:3842, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted orc shaman 17:48 woot, beat that giant soko puzzle 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 504 points, T:1036, killed by Mr. Demirci; the shopkeeper 17:53 congrats oh6 :) 17:53 <@bubbles> "Deals 1d20 bonus damage to trolls and all who regenerate quickly." -> does that include demon lords? 17:53 <@bubbles> Also gg oh6 again! 🙂 17:54 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 17:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Cerberus, on T:38041 18:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38200 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 155 points, T:308, killed by a goblin 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 451 points, T:636, killed by a gnome lord 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 468 points, T:768, killed by a baby owlbear, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2766 points, T:3018, killed by a human zombie 18:09 oh sweet a wooly mammoth. just need a saddle... e 18:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6085 18:21 <@bubbles> Hmm, I can't find the portal in outlands 18:23 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 18:23 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest77596 18:23 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3325 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 130 points, T:562, killed by a small mimic 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 545 points, T:1695, killed by a dwarf zombie 18:27 -!- Guest77596 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2384 points, T:3614, killed by an ape 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 505 points, T:570, killed by a giant spider 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 202 points, T:1019, killed by a small mimic 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 397 points, T:744, killed by a werejackal 18:43 thanks, rebatela and @bubbles! 18:43 Belated gratz oh6 18:44 thanks Bliss56! 18:44 longest I've gone without magic resistance in a while 18:51 <@bubbles> hmm +12 sword of the deeps? 18:51 <@bubbles> not an arti just super high ench? 18:51 <{Demo}> that used to be the case 18:51 <{Demo}> now it has an oprop 18:51 <{Demo}> still isn't an arti 18:55 <@bubbles> is it offhandable? 18:56 <{Demo}> yes 18:57 <@bubbles> ok so miska 18:58 <@bubbles> ok I can see more of the things that will take my artis 18:58 <{Demo}> the pen is offhandable 18:58 <{Demo}> i think 18:59 <@bubbles> yeah it is 18:59 <@bubbles> Hmm. Can I see my thoughts? 19:00 <{Demo}> self inspection 19:00 <{Demo}> wait thoughts, whats thoughts 19:00 <@bubbles> "You see dancing sprites, far away in the dark behind your eyes." -> tiny being of light I guess 19:00 <@bubbles> insight venodr thoughts 19:00 <{Demo}> yes then 19:00 <{Demo}> u can only have 3 of those 19:01 <@bubbles> I want the heal on sneak 19:01 <@bubbles> YES! blood shower 19:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Father Dagon, on T:43630 19:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Mother Hydra, on T:43633 19:06 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 19:08 <@bubbles> do I try to kill GC? 19:08 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 38599 points, T:17706, quit 19:08 what's GC again? 19:09 <@bubbles> great cthulu 19:09 oh, absolutely not 19:09 their madness is nasty 19:09 don't even look at them 19:10 <@bubbles> But if I am blind then it is ok? 19:10 I just wouldn't bother honestly 19:10 <@bubbles> is there any point in me being here at all? 19:10 <@bubbles> My sanity got smashed by father/mother I think 19:10 silver key, mad loot scattered around 19:11 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:11 <@bubbles> No silver key innit 19:11 <@bubbles> binder 19:11 <@bubbles> So only reason for me to be here is either give away some things for third artiwish 19:11 <@bubbles> or to kill gc 19:13 <@bubbles> if I am blind will I get not sanity loss from sweeing him? 19:14 <@bubbles> I can't even get in \o/ 19:14 I don't know precisely what gives you the madness, whether blindness works 19:14 but even if it did, no point killing him other than patting yourself on the back 19:15 because they revive shortly after 19:15 <@bubbles> I know I know 19:15 <@bubbles> I am 30 already too 19:15 <@bubbles> ok I will head back up 19:15 <@bubbles> Pretty crappy thoughts from here 19:16 <@bubbles> actually not terrible 19:16 <@bubbles> heal on counter, heal on sneak, +30% hp 19:16 <@bubbles> 868 hp now 19:17 nice one 19:18 <@bubbles> I ported out of there 19:18 <@bubbles> I think my sanity is back up fine 19:18 <@bubbles> no markers yet though 19:19 <{Demo}> you didn't get the marker from the top of the depths? 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1474 points, T:1318, killed by an ape, while helpless 19:21 <@bubbles> "You have used no wishes." 19:21 <@bubbles> there is a marker at the top of the depths? 19:21 <@bubbles> bleh 19:21 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:22 <{Demo}> yeah the level with the priest in the middle and a bunch of nightgaunts 19:22 <@bubbles> oh 19:22 <@bubbles> beh 19:22 <@bubbles> I will geti t later 19:23 <{Demo}> unknown god priest that is 19:26 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 884 points, T:886, killed by a monster (gargonome), while praying unsuccessfully 19:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the invisible Grue, on T:45341 19:26 <@bubbles> hmm 19:28 <@bubbles> I don't get that level at all 19:31 <{Demo}> ok computer so now i can draw a picture 19:34 <{Demo}> here's an epic epic epic map of the neutral quest https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/737090572803637385/unknown.png 19:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] xor (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1608 points, T:1653, killed by a gnome lord zombie 19:35 put it on the wiki tbh 19:35 also that's a pretty crappy choice of font {Demo} I am disappoint 19:36 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 19:36 follow CERN's lead and use comic sans 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:2958 19:36 <{Demo}> mspaint default 19:36 <{Demo}> clicking comic sans would be more effort and make it not as bad as it is 19:36 <{Demo}> it would make it worse by making it worse, not make it worse in a better way 19:37 <@riker> GC madness is given on being hit by his mind blast 19:37 <@riker> aka wake him up and not being mindless via polyself 19:37 <@riker> no good ideas for a point blank sight one but if you have one pass it on to chris I guess 19:38 as in a second madness from GC? 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:2483 19:40 -!- oh6 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40 <@bubbles> with numina bound can I still read scrolls while confused? 19:40 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 19:41 <{Demo}> no because u cant be confused 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1944 points, T:2555, killed by a killer bee 19:42 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law), 2679 points, T:622, burned by a fireball 19:43 <@bubbles> bugger 19:43 <@bubbles> I ned some cursed water 19:43 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 19:43 <@riker> yes amateurhour 19:43 <{Demo}> would be nice if you could soft unbind numina 19:43 <@riker> bubbles note that you'll need a crystal ball or andro det traps for fire and water 19:43 <{Demo}> like bye for a bit nummy i need to do some work 19:43 <@riker> that's called using embassy 19:44 <@riker> put somebody dumb, break it, and then quaff 2 blessed fh 19:44 <@riker> numina is stronk a little bit of pain is ok 19:44 <@bubbles> no need for fh 19:44 hi 19:44 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 19:44 <@bubbles> just swallow 19:44 how nasty are you wanting the suggestion riker? 19:44 <@bubbles> yeah I always have andro 19:44 there is a way to soft unbind numina, but it takes some finessing. This video goes over it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmtzQCSh6xk 19:44 this is why it's sometimes unwise to have fh on highlight 19:44 <@bubbles> music 🤣 19:45 <@bubbles> aww there is alwasya need for that fh 19:45 because a hallucinated apparition of cthulhu that can appear randomly and hit you would be pretty horrid 19:45 <@bubbles> pats 19:45 <@riker> that's be neat 19:45 <@bubbles> oh like wizard harass? 19:45 <@riker> I believe the design intent was something about noneuclidean shapes 19:45 <@bubbles> but with an avatar of cthulu? 19:45 <@riker> my idea was randomly make things covetous 19:45 <@riker> like how grazzt randomly makes things reflecting 19:46 <@riker> so when a monster tries to move there is a chance for it to warp instead 19:46 <@riker> but yeah jeez 250 dmg out of nowhere would suck lmao 19:46 <@riker> especially because he ignores wards 19:47 heh, perhaps it'd be alright if it had cthulhu's bugged health at around 40 19:49 <@bubbles> so how get unholy water? 19:49 <@bubbles> I am pretty sure the lich lost his somehow 19:50 <@bubbles> oh yeah he got cancel 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed dvorkian's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5782 19:50 ah so you lost the guaranteed ones? 19:50 <@bubbles> oh 19:50 <@bubbles> I am a liar 19:50 <@bubbles> I put them in the 10chest 19:50 <@bubbles> preppign some cursed gain level 19:51 riker what if the hallucinations that happen with low sanity could roll cthulhu, and while they appear as cthulhu they deal damage as them 19:51 just spitballing ideas, maybe bad 19:52 they'd warp etc 19:54 <@bubbles> is the marker at the top left of the map? 19:56 <@bubbles> oh fuck my insight - I can see lurking ones 😦 19:57 think it's randomly on the top floor 19:58 <@bubbles> oh no 19:58 <@bubbles> oh no 19:58 <@bubbles> I accidentally snapped my wand of cancel 19:58 :( 19:58 <{Demo}> :( :( :( 19:58 <@bubbles> Your Platinum Dragon Plate reverts to its natural form! 19:58 <@bubbles> I don't get it 19:58 <{Demo}> it turned from plate to scales 19:59 <@bubbles> oh that's not too bad 20:00 <@bubbles> I tried to use my key 20:00 <@bubbles> all my weapons back to +0 😢 20:00 <{Demo}> rip deep ones 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6667 20:01 <{Demo}> what letter do u use for key? 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6736 20:01 <@bubbles> 'd' 20:01 <@bubbles> What does "mumbling" mean? 20:02 <{Demo}> deeps 20:02 <{Demo}> psychic blasts 20:02 <{Demo}> you and monsters 20:02 <{Demo}> means you have telepathy and it is under... +8? :S i forget 20:02 <{Demo}> and it has deeps oprop 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 753 points, T:1067, killed by an imp, while praying 20:03 <@bubbles> so it does a phsychic blast when it hits? 20:04 <{Demo}> no 20:04 <@bubbles> so where is this marker at? 20:04 <{Demo}> when it is in your inventory or on the ground 20:04 <{Demo}> somewhere on the level 20:04 <{Demo}> did you find the destination level? 20:05 <{Demo}> was the map i sent totally useless cause if it was that isn't surprising at all 20:05 <@bubbles> "You hear teardrops on the sea." -> this is from mumbling? 20:05 <{Demo}> yes 20:05 <{Demo}> just bag it 20:06 <@bubbles> No I think I am in the righ tplace - the bit above the gorge where the priest of unknown god is 20:06 <{Demo}> yeah now look around and explore 20:06 <@bubbles> gottit 20:06 <{Demo}> markers spawns in a random spot 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:7060 20:06 <@bubbles> 0:35 20:06 <@bubbles> ... 20:07 <{Demo}> lol rip 20:07 <@bubbles> I don't think I even know charging 20:08 <@bubbles> ok will do some hell scouting 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:7322 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 312 points, T:946, killed by a werejackal 20:09 <@bubbles> really need flying 20:09 <{Demo}> could polypile scrolls lol 20:09 <{Demo}> theres flying boots in neutral 20:09 <{Demo}> and in medusa statue 20:09 <{Demo}> did u get medusa? 20:09 <{Demo}> if so, pop the perseus statue 20:09 <@bubbles> no 20:09 <@bubbles> stupid grue 20:09 <{Demo}> ok, neu quest migo level 20:10 <@bubbles> how much exp is enough? 20:10 <{Demo}> has a pair of boots along the banks of the river to the right 20:10 <@bubbles> Meh I hate neutral quest 20:10 <@bubbles> I will if I dont find any in first hell exploration 20:10 <@bubbles> I am using a pot of starlight as my light source 20:11 <@bubbles> err not exp, how much hp is enough hp? 20:11 <{Demo}> as a binder, 600-900 at the end is plenty 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 295 points, T:729, killed by a water moccasin 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 454 points, T:1426, killed by a giant bat 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an umber hulk, on T:7940 20:17 <@bubbles> currently 897 20:18 <{Demo}> more is always good, but you are probably pretty near the peak of diminishing returns 20:19 [hdf-us] [sp] sohlman (Rog Dwa Mal Neu), 1774 points, T:2070, killed by a straw golem 20:20 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1570 20:20 <@bubbles> oh do angbang orcs not carry morgol blades in hell? 20:20 <@bubbles> yeah no need for more 20:20 <@bubbles> I have 20 blessed pots of full heal for actual healing still 20:21 <{Demo}> how many forms of lifesaving do you have on? 20:24 <@bubbles> only got 2 amus 20:24 <@bubbles> but I like to yolo innit 20:24 <{Demo}> you can wear wishing ring 20:24 <{Demo}> and it acts as life saving 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1584 points, T:2335, killed by an invisible plains centaur 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] sohlman (Con Hob Fem Cha), 9 points, T:352, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 20:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3553 20:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 857 points, T:3670, killed by a hill orc called Akhugor of Ogrukai 20:32 -!- j6p has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:36 <@bubbles> hmm ammon 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 768 points, T:1896, killed by a dwarf 20:36 <@bubbles> oh lol I forgot to pick wishing rin up 20:40 <@bubbles> literally 0 lava in hell 😕 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 288 points, T:569, killed by a bugbear 20:43 <@bubbles> I hate not having drain res 😕 20:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the invisible Mammon, on T:50505 20:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 306606 points, T:31304, killed by freezing to death 20:48 i meant to do that 20:48 what happened? :( 20:49 <@bubbles> got too chilly 20:49 <@bubbles> huh no announce for jubilex demo? 20:50 i was shooting for 3rd place... 20:50 <@bubbles> ok so I want to kill the liliths 20:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Verier, on T:50789 20:52 k2: tell little me another one bites the dust ! 20:53 not the first time i've died there 20:54 <@bubbles> I assume all of these will wake up together? 20:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Daughter Lilith, on T:50846 20:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Crone Lilith, on T:50872 20:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Mother Lilith, on T:50918 20:56 i get it... there are no bags of holding so that you have to do that level 20:56 <@bubbles> ok where is the out here? 20:56 <@riker> maze behind castle 20:57 <@bubbles> YES DEMO 20:57 <@bubbles> not stupid lamashut 20:57 <@bubbles> do I kill the archon? 20:58 is this the same game as the other day? 20:58 <@bubbles> no 20:58 <@bubbles> I died on water 20:59 oh right 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1178 20:59 <@bubbles> orcus hmmm 20:59 why did i die? because I didn't have reflection? 21:00 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 21:00 !lastgame rebatela 21:00 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1595683149.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/dnethack/dumplog/1567799550.dnh.txt 21:00 the ice queen cast a spell i think and instakilled 21:00 or i dunno 21:00 well the final thing that killed you was the cold 21:00 but most of the damage was done by the acid rain spell 21:01 it's a pretty nasty spell really, think it's the thing which kills most people taking her on 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 790 points, T:1539, killed by a gnome king 21:01 oh yeah 21:01 last time i had dragonbane 21:02 i've died a few times there i think. i always forget 21:03 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:03 i got lucky with wishes tho. I should have ascended that game. oh well 21:04 I can't remember if acid blast gets reflected or not, it's an aoe spell 21:04 it must. i went from full hp to dead 21:04 but the acid resiststance from dragonbane is what i'm used to 21:04 that's where i got messed up 21:05 oh yeah it has acid resistance, forgot 21:05 found it in bones last game 21:05 tbh I can't think of any other gloves worth having on giant monk 21:05 protection 21:05 dragonhide 21:05 really limited in invent slots 21:05 <@bubbles> it's asmo time!!!! 21:05 so need reflection from somewhere 21:05 i'd almost rather have dragonhide protection gloves 21:06 mc 21:06 <@riker> why do you fight him bubbles 21:06 <@riker> he makes a giant mess and has no loot 21:06 what do you use for reflection usually rebatela? 21:06 as a giant? if i don't have dragonbane, amulet 21:06 not a lot of options 21:07 <@bubbles> riker it is the principle 21:07 !who 21:07 K2: [hdf-us] dvorkian [nh370] oh6 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] sohlman [slex] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [slex] Sweetdough [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 21:07 i guess it doesn't matter the role... in vanilla if you level up you can wear SDSM as a monk and hit ... 21:07 (doesn't work in EH lol) 21:07 race* 21:07 not role 21:08 i hadn't found polymorph in that game or I would have poly'd for amulet of reflection 21:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:51686 21:09 what do you use for MR then rebatela? I was usually using amulet slot for MR 21:09 i had EoTA but you only need to carry that for the PW regeneration. I was kicking. so it goes 21:09 I wish for quest artifacts with no shame, amateurhour 21:09 ah right yeah 21:09 i had both eyes and pyec 21:09 <@bubbles> riker the honest reason is because I like to clear for the asc run 21:09 <@bubbles> because I would 100% fat finger something 21:10 <@bubbles> so demo I ignore because there should be 0% of me aggro him on the way back up 21:10 but there's an amulet of magic 21:10 i got lucky and got 2 early wishes before seeing an artifact 21:10 went for PYEC and then eota 21:11 but asmo doesn't wake up and come for you typically bubbles? 21:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Belial, on T:51731 21:11 <@bubbles> okt hat was not my fault 21:11 I'm not sure how you're expected to get MR as a giant without wishing? 21:11 you cant wear the cloak 21:12 amulet of MR is literally the only way, plus maybe your quest artifact if monk 21:12 yeah but that's new 21:13 yeah 21:13 i've ascended vanilla with only one artifact giving me MR. If Rodney steals it? He steals it lol 21:13 it sucks when it's PYEC tho... 21:13 I usually just use the eyes for MR in vanilla 21:13 that happened to me in my first 3.6 ascension (in 3.4.3 he wont' steal another role's artifact) 21:14 but if the wizard steals PYEC he instantly has MR 21:14 (no wand of death) 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dvorkian (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 275 points, T:950, killed by a giant mimic 21:15 yeah i will do the same thing with the eyes... most of my vanilla ascensions are like that 21:15 BUT 1/20 times he will try to steal them/the amulet 21:16 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 21:18 <@bubbles> ok should be pretty smooth on the way up 21:18 <@bubbles> I think 21:18 bubbles: where u playing? 21:20 in variants based on 3.4.3 are there any ways to get rid of iron bars? 21:22 what is this vulnerable to cold shit i am reading? I was cold resistant 21:22 that's why i died i think 21:22 if you don't have 100% cold resist you'll take damage from being in the ice realm 21:22 well, it finished you off for sure, but most of the damage was from the acid spell 21:23 <@bubbles> reba hardfought eu 21:23 <@bubbles> but I realised I have no flying 21:23 <@bubbles> for air plane 21:23 <@bubbles> fuck 21:24 <@Sig> amateurhour: striking? 21:24 <@Sig> Works in dnh anyway 21:25 @bubbles 1 blseesd potion of levi should be enough to get you through the plane of air. 21:25 blessed 21:25 I think that's something dnh added, but I'll try it 21:26 ah not found striking yet lol 21:26 <@Sig> YANI: Hammers can break bars 21:26 <@Sig> RIP 21:26 <@bubbles> Tangles thanks will try 21:26 I nearly always do that with potions these days to save swapping gear. 21:27 <@bubbles> I have no pot of levi :grimace: 21:28 <@bubbles> just lost every bit of luck 21:28 Oh really? they are pretty common :/ 21:29 <@bubbles> yeah 21:29 <@bubbles> the luck was from a room full of golden hearts 21:30 <@bubbles> I guess I could wish 21:30 <@bubbles> but was wondering if I could do it without 21:31 <@bubbles> I could poly some pots 21:31 <@bubbles> meh 21:31 Yeah you could try polying potions, rings and magical armor. 21:32 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Ang Mal Law) killed Kroo the Kobold King Avoider Curser, on T:5707 21:32 <@bubbles> problem is I have 42 insight 21:32 <@bubbles> so going back into neutral quest is going to be terrifying 21:32 Amulets too? Can't remember if dnh has amulets of flying. 21:33 <@bubbles> will get boots from the neutral quest 21:33 <@bubbles> demo said there was some on the migo bit 21:33 Ah ok. 21:34 I haven't really played much since the insight/madness things came in. 21:34 <@bubbles> yeah it makes stuff scarier 21:35 <@bubbles> j - a cursed +0 pair of flying boots. :party: 21:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53985 21:39 <@bubbles> without helping hand this is VERY annoying 21:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) performed the invocation, on T:54523 21:44 <@bubbles> oh no 400 turns on miska :grimace: 21:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:54884 21:48 <@bubbles> I got bloody punished 21:48 <@bubbles> I got bloody punished 21:48 that's alright, remove curse 21:51 lol I got a 17x17 book shop in slex 21:51 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53 <@bubbles> oh fuck off force] 21:54 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 21:55 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 21:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 83838 points, T:5708, killed by a Coure Eladrin 21:57 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:58 <@bubbles> ok uuvadum 21:58 <@bubbles> VERY SCARY 22:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered the Planes, on T:56597 22:01 <@bubbles> oh 22:01 <@bubbles> well 22:01 <@bubbles> I can't actually dig 22:02 <@bubbles> I can't pick anything up - that uuvuduum made me flying forever? 22:02 <@riker> Andre is fine with digging rock 22:03 <@riker> and it'll time out but a while yeah 22:03 <@bubbles> I mean I have no method of digging 22:03 <@bubbles> I will though travel 22:04 <@riker> ymir via embassy 22:04 <@riker> activate his levitation and go down 22:05 <@bubbles> hot 22:05 <@bubbles> "you re already levitating" 22:05 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 22:05 <@riker> try going down anyway? 22:05 <@bubbles> Tried 22:05 <@riker> F 22:05 <@bubbles> I can't even engrave wards? 22:06 <@bubbles> will this go away?> 22:06 <@riker> you can't touch the ground lol 22:06 <@bubbles> Otherwise it makes the game unwinnable I think 22:06 <@riker> it'll time out eventually 22:06 <@bubbles> Not sure 22:06 <@riker> nah it can't make it unwinnable 22:07 <@riker> unless you figure out a way to get one casting at you forever 22:07 <@bubbles> I also lost my cloak 22:07 <@bubbles> I am not sure how the g touched me 22:07 <@bubbles> but tickle me it did 22:07 <@riker> nice 22:07 <@bubbles> are you sure this times out? 22:08 <@bubbles> IT TIMED OUT 22:08 <@bubbles> but I lost most of my seals 22:09 <{Demo}> nailed 2 the sky 22:12 <@bubbles> ok fire 22:12 <@bubbles> huh yendor on fire 22:12 <@bubbles> ok 22:12 <@bubbles> I thought he never came after earth 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1470 points, T:3040, killed by a killer bee 22:14 <{Demo}> he only doesnt come on astral 22:14 <{Demo}> or for ndnh acu, astal and the void 22:15 <@bubbles> ok DO NOT SINK 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:11361 22:16 <@bubbles> I don't really know how the water bubbles actually work 22:17 <@bubbles> phew 22:17 <@bubbles> ok we are at astral 22:17 <@bubbles> but no simurg in pen bleh 22:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed Death, on T:57997 22:18 <@Sig> Are the Ks on Astral a Binder exclusive thing? 22:18 <@bubbles> why am I blind? 22:18 <@bubbles> sig yes 22:18 <@bubbles> They hit SUPER HARD 22:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) averted death, on T:58022 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:11535 22:19 <@Sig> Not sure. I'm watching but I missed it. Stuff just kinda happens on Astral 22:19 <@Sig> Missed that too, lol. What got you? 22:20 <@bubbles> and I got punsihed 22:20 <@bubbles> priests spam illness as a spell 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:11769 22:21 <@Sig> Oh yeah, I have a stop for that one. 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed dvorkian's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:11780 22:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed Famine, on T:58159 22:22 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) averted death, on T:58188 22:22 <@bubbles> omg 22:22 <@bubbles> last one 22:22 <@bubbles> hooooooooo 22:22 <@Sig> This is terrifying to watch 22:22 <@bubbles> I play really badly tbh 22:22 <@bubbles> not sure what to do 22:23 <@bubbles> punished is non-ideal here 22:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed Pestilence, on T:58274 22:24 <@bubbles> ok let's try to thin them out a bit 22:24 <@bubbles> before charing in 22:24 <@Sig> Got any TP/death wands 22:24 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 22:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:58306 22:24 <@bubbles> oh fuck off 22:24 <@bubbles> thaqt was not good timing 22:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Sweetdough (Bin Orc Fem Non), 13511108 points, T:58332, ascended 22:25 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Sweetdough/dnethack/dumplog/1595777917.dnh.txt 22:25 <@Sig> GG 22:25 <@Sig> Congrats 22:25 <@bubbles> thanks ❤️ 22:25 <@bubbles> I played that pretty bad 22:25 <@bubbles> I should have been using the tp ray skill 22:25 <@bubbles> and all the other skills 22:25 <@bubbles> but I just mindless SMASH SMSASHH 22:25 <@bubbles> it is kinda insane 22:26 <@bubbles> asmo can't dent your hp but then those K just crush you 22:26 !lastlog -date luxi 10 22:26 Whoops 22:26 <@bubbles> Look at the armor and weapons I was using ... 22:26 <@bubbles> Weapons a - the rustproof +0 Pen of the Void (weapon in hand) b - a +0 arcing long sword (wielded in other hand) c - a +0 forge-hot stiletto e - the +0 Trollsbane 22:26 <@bubbles> pah 22:26 <@Sig> Lol 22:27 <@bubbles> that was from applying a wand of cancel 22:27 <@bubbles> because it adjusted tot he button I normally have for "key/lockpick" 22:27 Anyone seen Luxi recently? 22:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 222354 points, T:18565, killed by a mandrake's dying shriek 22:28 <@bubbles> not in the past week I haven't pinky 22:28 <@bubbles> sorry 22:29 <@bubbles> also I forgot how to ascend and I tried to drop the amulet on the altar and #pray :x 22:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 151 points, T:332, killed by a grid bug 22:30 <@Sig> Was wondering what that was about, lol 22:30 <@Sig> That sucks about the wand though 22:30 <@bubbles> Is there a way to make "ill" be in a big colours or something? 22:31 <@bubbles> I think we've had a similar discussion in the past, but I would really love a way of locking a keyboard key to a specific item/items 22:31 <@bubbles> Like in OPTIONS 22:31 <@bubbles> Even if you had to do something horrible like informally id it 22:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 48 points, T:307, killed by a jackal 22:32 well vanilla has status hilites 22:33 <@bubbles> I am using demo's status thingies 22:33 <@bubbles> so if I die to ill it is tecnically his fault 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:12621 22:34 <@Sig> There's a way to get the terminal to stop whenever the "you feel ill" message pops up. 22:34 <@bubbles> Maybe instead of endlessly restarting my own code I should just try to submit patches to our lord and saviour chris for stuff like message spam folding 22:35 <@bubbles> Like at some point you don't care about the hits, you just want to see "4/18 attacks hit" 22:35 <@bubbles> or something 22:35 <@bubbles> and then put th efull thing in ctrl-p 22:35 <@Sig> OPTIONS=hilite_status: condition/stone/red&inverse/termill/red&inverse MSGTYPE=stop "You feel deathly sick." 22:36 <@bubbles> ah awesome thanks! 22:36 <@bubbles> I can do the same for "Yo are slowing down" 22:36 <@bubbles> I didn't have a lizard corpse that game 22:37 <@Sig> If you check the first pinned message in #nethack there's a full list of good ones to set MSGTYPE=stop for 22:37 <@bubbles> tend not to read super busy channels too much stuff 22:37 <@bubbles> but yeah in general combat gets too spammy 22:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 604 points, T:638, killed by a dwarf 22:38 <@bubbles> I also wonder how much showing incoming damage as a number in the combat log would give more info than you already have 22:38 <@bubbles> Then you could set thresholds for hits that should show 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) destroyed dvorkian's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2076 22:39 <@bubbles> Anyway I should bed, it's 3.30, but no meetings tomorrow other than some khronos calls so no biggie! nn all and thanks for the support 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 375 points, T:1079, killed by a boulder 22:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 1187 points, T:1138, killed by a gnome lord 22:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 251 points, T:397, killed by a jackal 22:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 52 points, T:97, killed by a grid bug 22:50 'night @bubbles, and congrats! 22:52 Nice work applying the cancel wand as your unlocktool. I did the same with a wand of polymorph in my first dnh run a few years back... That was a mess! 22:52 <{Demo}> damn wow he just kept going 22:52 <{Demo}> after blowing the cancel wand 22:52 <{Demo}> didnt even need to fix his shit 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2901 22:55 <@riker> binder demo 22:55 <@riker> binders are janky af 22:57 <{Demo}> it's just funny that they can do thag 22:59 <@riker> it's kinda cursed imo 23:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed Ring of Free Action", on T:39272 23:07 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1234 points, T:2997, killed by a giant mimic 23:11 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 23:11 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1986 23:13 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 23:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 12505 points, T:4253, killed by a bugbear 23:34 [hdf-us] [4k] charles (Sam Hum Mal Law) defeated Medusa, on T:33527 23:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] elgeonmb (Ana Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8360 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13715 23:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 9255 points, T:2217, killed by an owlbear 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:46791 23:44 <@riker> man heliokopis just never stops throwing incs into the grinder 23:44 <@Sig> Demo and Riker: Not only did Bubbles win with +0 equipment but he mostly meleed stuff on Astral. 23:44 <@riker> yeah that's the dumb bit - the dps 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1375 23:44 <@riker> armor is optional 23:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 163 points, T:392, killed by a falling rock trap 23:45 <@Sig> Very fast speed and not being unpunished are also optional 23:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 43 points, T:727, killed by a jackal 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:14425 23:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 356 points, T:600, killed by a black pudding 23:56 <@riker> @Sig ok the punishment is 100% on bubbles 23:57 <@riker> that spell only takes effect if your alignment is shot to hell or you've committed enough war crimes that even god says nah fam 23:57 <@riker> (sin counter) 23:57 <@riker> aka, somebody murdered too much 23:57 bubbles the war criminal 23:58 <@riker> I make no judgements 23:58 <@riker> except don't do crime kids 23:59 shouldn't binders generally not be held to those alignment standards though? 23:59 <@Sig> I assumed the sins were being a binder, similar to how the Ks are there on astral