00:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Ana Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:47237 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4064 points, T:3627, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 00:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5108 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed introsp3ctive's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:818 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5157 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:5427 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] cup (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4779 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:5759 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1572 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2531 points, T:1795, killed by a bat, while fainted from lack of food 00:27 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3597 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:5942 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:6069 00:30 -!- Agrius1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed the Lugribossk of Ilsensine, on T:47413 00:32 -!- Agrius has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Ana Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:47418 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8230 points, T:6309, killed by an iguana 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] cup (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:8210 00:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Ana Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:47438 00:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:47472 00:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Ana Hum Fem Neu), 7217944 points, T:47492, ascended, having saved the future https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Sig/dnethack/dumplog/1591817988.dnh.txt 00:46 <@www> congrats 00:46 <@Sig> Ty! 00:48 <@lapis> nice job sig 00:49 congrats sig 00:49 @Luxidream how many parked ascensions do you have this time? 00:50 <@Sig> !rng hedrow | shedrow | knight 00:50 @Sig: hedrow 00:50 <@Sig> Thanks y'all 00:51 Junethack: Sig ascended a game of dNetHack on www.hardfought.org! 00:51 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by Sig! 00:53 -!- zhangoke has quit [Quit: zhangoke] 00:53 <@Sig> Oh geez drow is so much more of a pain than I thought 00:56 <@riker> i like them :( 00:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:14496 00:57 <@Sig> I thought they got the opposite of normal vision, not Invidiak vision. 00:57 <@riker> lol 00:57 <@riker> they do have invidiak vision? 00:57 <@riker> ah indiviaks have infravision 00:58 <@Sig> > You see a torch Now the game is mocking me 00:58 <@lapis> drow anas are different and cool 00:58 <@riker> they have catsigh 00:58 <@lapis> in terms of vision 00:59 <@riker> they're also not technically drow, they're Myrkalfar 00:59 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 12473 points, T:5214, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted ettin zombie, while sleeping 00:59 <@Sig> Do I have poison res? 00:59 <@riker> no 01:03 <@www> can't kick ghosts anymore? 01:04 <@www> how do I kill it 😒 01:04 <@www> wand of striking didn't work 01:04 <@www> kicking didn't work 01:04 <@www> I keep missing 01:06 aoei, sounds like you're having fun with the zombies 01:06 !who 01:06 bugsniper: [hdf-us] Tommo [nh4] bouquet [spl] Sig [dnh] spicycat [dnh] arnibald [nh343] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] aoei [xnh] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] www [xnh] 01:06 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Dan Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by the Elder Elemental, on T:1344 01:08 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Dan Hum Fem Cha), 1112 points, T:1429, killed by a parrot, while praying 01:10 nice patch idea: reading mail shouldn't violate your illiterate conduct. Use dungeon crawl's pager if you don't want to break consistency 01:10 bugsniper, oh nah, it wasn't a floating eye 01:10 someone threw a sleep potion or zapped a sleep wand at me 01:11 floating eye would have given the death message "while helpless" 01:11 and then coincidentally threw a potion of hallu at you seconds before your death? 01:11 no I drank the hallu myself 01:12 and then went running around the dungeon 01:12 I see 01:13 quaff IDing potions is a dangerous game 01:13 <@www> every1-Ran-Orc-Fem-Cha I found your dog 01:13 <@www> Sirius 01:13 you might as well have polymorphed something into the ettin zombie to beat antigulp in long death messages 01:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Hdr-Pri Dro Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 Quicksilver", on T:1104 01:18 <@Sig> Oh nuts, drow priests don't get skill in flails. Not a huge deal but I probably would have wished for something else otherwise. 01:19 [hdf-au] [xnh] www (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:2811 01:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:20 [hdf-au] [xnh] www (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2935 01:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:15699 01:22 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1666 points, T:1518, killed by a giant spider 01:23 <@www> As you read the scroll, it disappears. You are being punished for your misbehavior! 01:23 <@www> woops 01:23 evil patch idea: snakes can choke you to kill you as though you're wearing an amulet of strangulation 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 516 points, T:1023, killed by a giant bat 01:26 <@microlance> keep that cloak greased and snakes wont be a problem 01:26 <@microlance> not so evil 01:29 <@www> who is the xnethack dev 01:29 <@www> Scroll of water: highly similar to UnNetHack's scroll of flood, but will never create water underneath the player. Replaces the scroll of amnesia, which is removed. 01:29 <@www> I have a scroll of water and a scroll of amnesia in my inventory ? 01:29 <@www> although bones was involved 01:31 <@Sig> "The garter snake wraps around your throat!" is a pretty funny image 01:32 <@Sig> You add to the writing in the dust with a wand of light. What do you want to add to the writing in the dust here? Dammit 01:34 @www aosdict is the dev 01:40 <@www> ..I prayed to my god and they didn't remove my ball and chain 01:41 <@www> damn it 01:44 <@www> ohh, I can throw it in a pit with a boulder? 01:45 @microlance agreed, it's the evilness level of most of the evilhack evil patch ideas 01:48 <@www> idk how to put it in the pit.. I can't push it 01:48 <@www> I'll try throwing it 01:49 <@www> that didn't work 01:49 <@www> ok I threw myself down the hole, I need help 01:51 <@www> oh, it was a hole not a pit 01:54 <@www> The rock mole eats an iron chain! 01:57 [hdf-au] [xnh] www (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4203 01:57 [hdf-au] [xnh] www (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4225 01:57 <@microlance> Don't the python in EH already choke you? 02:07 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1286 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 265 points, T:658, killed by a wand 02:11 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 02:12 I don't know 02:12 ask K2 02:14 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:32654 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 334 points, T:1622, killed by a giant bat 02:15 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 394 points, T:1539, killed by a giant bat 02:30 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/725236369563058223/unknown.png 02:30 <@www> ):< 02:31 <@www> got it, was a jely 02:34 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:36 [hdf-eu] [spl] smzp (Con Orc Nbn Cha), 814 points, T:1698, killed by a corpseworm 02:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 172 points, T:661, killed by a sewer rat 02:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 516 points, T:929, killed by a rabid rat 02:44 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3015 02:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 02:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Pir Inc Fem Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:42639 02:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Pir Inc Fem Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:42640 02:52 !who 02:52 tommo: [hdf-us] MHL [nh370] Tommo [nh4] lapis [dnh] spicycat [dnh] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] microlance [dnh] Raisse [nh343] aoei [xnh] | [hdf-au] Mishka [nh4] Tangles [dnh] 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3234 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a dwarf corpse, on T:3329 02:55 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1350 points, T:3604, killed by a dagger 02:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2791 03:10 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 03:11 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Ana Hlf Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:23008 03:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3155 03:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5311 03:22 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6696 03:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:7883 03:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6644 points, T:7885, killed by a soldier ant 03:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 ogresmasher", on T:20310 03:57 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) stole 3038 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kipawa's general store, on T:4483 04:12 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:16 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 04:18 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:5106 04:18 -!- zhangoke has quit [Client Quit] 04:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:25 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:25 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:30 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 30596 points, T:5664, killed by a death ray 04:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:49154 04:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 scroll of genocide", on T:23380 04:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:47 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:56 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1834 04:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 614435 points, T:24542, petrified by Poseidon's curse 04:58 <@microlance> feelsbadman, chasing nymphs and forgetting to annotate medusas floor 05:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of magical breathing", on T:51545 05:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Arc Vam Mal Neu), 979 points, T:934, killed by a gnome 05:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Arc Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1311 05:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:49363 05:24 [hdf-eu] [spl] smzp (Dan Inf Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1412 05:28 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a winter wolf, on T:3440 05:28 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:29 [hdf-eu] [spl] smzp (Dan Inf Nbn Law), 3746 points, T:1623, killed by a mystic scarab 05:29 -!- winny has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:32 [hdf-eu] [spl] smzp (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 185 points, T:417, killed by a small mimic 05:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:53120 05:59 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4914 06:02 [hdf-au] [un] tandem (Val Dwa Fem Law), 255 points, T:549, killed by a small mimic 06:04 -!- nengel has joined #hardfought 06:10 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:49772 06:13 -!- j6p has joined #hardfought 06:14 -!- rsa__ has joined #hardfought 06:16 [hdf-au] [slex] ogmobot (Ran Nym Fem Cha), 3909 points, T:1635, killed by a monster (fallen soldier) 06:20 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 06:20 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in seven variants" unlocked by ogmobot! 06:23 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5900 06:24 -!- spicycat has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:46 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7760 06:50 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 07:07 [hdf-eu] [spl] smzp (Kni Ang Nbn Law), 1072 points, T:1008, killed by a pony, while praying 07:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:13 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "the holy Master Key of Thievery", on T:8383 07:21 -!- j6p has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Val Hum Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:53994 07:28 !lastgame nabru 07:28 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-06-24%2000%3A37%3A50%2C%20Nicole-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/slex/dumplog/1590976383.slex.txt 07:29 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "holy fixed greased bag of holding", on T:8717 07:38 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 07:39 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:9147 07:44 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:03 butt-clenching moment: https://i.imgur.com/ExstFir.png 08:03 25% chance of death w/ "oReflection on in that scenario 08:09 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:9707 08:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic harp", on T:50225 08:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Arc Vam Fem Neu) wished for "fixed glass ring of slow digestion", on T:4079 08:22 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 08:22 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:29 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:10201 08:29 !coffee 08:29 * Beholder pours nabru a glass of drool, prayed over by Izchak at 11 degrees Fahrenheit. 08:36 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:42 drool? That's gross. 08:42 indeed 08:42 bad bot! 08:42 This "coffee" is fool! You gag and vomit! 08:42 *foul 08:42 lol 08:42 {Demo}: Do you know why the lightsaber forms are numbered I, II, III, IV, V, V, VI, VII? 08:43 That seems like something {Demo} would know... 08:43 !coffee 08:43 * Beholder tosses Tangles a mug of coffee, replicated by the late Pinobot at 69 Kelvin. 08:44 Poor Pinobot. I think he still lives on somewhere. 08:44 @d?phantasm 08:44 phantasm (W) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: gehennom | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d1 touch sleep, 1d1 touch curse, 1d1 touch seduce | Alignment: -10 | Flags: flies, breathless, unsolid, undead, demon, stalker 08:44 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "holy fixed greased +3 cloak of protection", on T:10355 08:50 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:10417 08:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:54 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 08:55 <{Demo}> good question, some esoteric source Chris pulled them from probably numbered them that way 08:57 [hdf-us] [sp] Delraven (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3976 points, T:1916, killed by a jaguar 08:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:59 <{Demo}> I don't know what that source is and I'm surprised I haven't looked into it further 09:03 {Demo}: Also, which form should I use, and is there a decent reference on what armors count as 'medium' and 'heavy'? 09:04 <{Demo}> I assume you are playing dnethack? 09:04 Yeah 09:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) killed the Grue, on T:13154 09:04 <{Demo}> lemme see 09:04 Chaotic half-dragon, if that helps. 09:05 <{Demo}> I think it is heavy if it isn't light or medium, idk https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/725335888640606299/unknown.png 09:06 <{Demo}> as to what form, eh, depends on your build 09:06 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 204 points, T:299, killed by a bolt of cold 09:06 Oh nice, There's macros for it. 09:06 Thanks! 09:07 <{Demo}> you probably don't wanna use ataru 09:07 <{Demo}> soresu is generally considered pretty good 09:07 <{Demo}> but you are a half dragon so it might be too, too slowing 09:08 <{Demo}> makashi isn't a form you use unless you are doing a specific fight, even then, you can't use it cause you won't have enough skill pts to train it and everything else 09:08 ok. 09:08 <{Demo}> I could see a build with juyo + sneak attack boosting insight glyphs being stupid 09:08 <{Demo}> but that would require knowing and doing a lot of warding 09:09 Hmm ok. 09:09 I think I want simple for this run. 09:09 <{Demo}> not worth the effort 09:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4742 points, T:2306, killed by a wolf 09:09 <{Demo}> Niman is stupidly strong but requires you to know how it works and play slowly enough to keep it working which is no fun and I've never done it, nor has really anyone afaik? 09:11 <{Demo}> Djem so is pretty neat. I'd probably grab an ethereal dervish clockwise gyre (might be anti-clockwise i forget) and get the small speed bonus and roll soresu 09:11 Also wtf is with armor class? I just enchanted my bodyglove to +2 (which took 2 blessed scrolls), and it did not make squat difference to AC or DR. 09:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Arc Vam Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7535 09:12 <{Demo}> look at your advanced DR breakdown on the ^X menu 09:12 <{Demo}> or inspect the body glove with I 09:12 <{Demo}> did it really not do shit to it? 09:12 -!- winny has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:14 Pretty sure I was -2/6 before I started, and still the same when I put it all back on again 09:14 <{Demo}> that's not your DR 09:14 <{Demo}> the number you see on the botl is not your DR 09:15 the one that says DR? lol ok 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] Elle (hackedhead) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 38448 points, T:6166, poisoned by a rabid rat 09:15 RRRRRRIP 09:15 <{Demo}> yeah its stupid as shit 09:15 <{Demo}> you don't have a single DR value, you have 5 09:15 <{Demo}> that one is an average of all slots 09:15 ok 09:16 [hdf-us] [un] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 848 points, T:1124, killed by a gnome 09:16 <{Demo}> if you inspect the body glove, it will tell you how much AC and DR it provides 09:16 <{Demo}> but I don't think on which slots 09:16 so everything is 5 when I take it all off, and my AC is 4. 09:17 <{Demo}> open your inventory and select the letter that is the bodyglove 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3259 09:17 When I put on the +2 body glove my AC goes to 3, and the DR numbers are unchanged. 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3270 09:17 <{Demo}> and then you get a menu of things that are an option of what to do with it 09:17 <{Demo}> press I and see what it says it provides 09:17 says 1AC, 1DR, in the shirt slot. 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed cup's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3318 09:18 <{Demo}> ok, and in the shirt slot on the ^x DR per slot breakdown it doesn't increase when worn? 09:18 There isn't a shirt slot. 09:18 <{Demo}> ah yeah, upper body and lower body I THINK it covers 09:18 <{Demo}> i dont remember, this is why i fucking hate the ac/dr split 09:19 <{Demo}> or rather the current implementation 09:19 Yeah those are both DR 5 (as they were before I put it on) 09:19 <{Demo}> everything is just a black box to everyone but the person that made it up 09:19 <{Demo}> yeah sounds fucky 09:19 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 09:20 So yeah I think I get it, the +2 is split for 1AC and 1DR, but the DR is lost because shirt slot seems not to count, which might be a bug. 09:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Arc Vam Fem Neu), 57082 points, T:8379, killed by a Woodland-elf 09:22 <{Demo}> bodyglove might be supposed to count for every slot 09:22 <{Demo}> i don't know because the mechanic is implemented in such an opaque and dogshit way 09:22 <{Demo}> and it is really frustrating because you have no idea what anything is doing, or supposed to do 09:22 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) averted death, on T:2830 09:23 <{Demo}> and it doesn't help that it throws the pretty stupid and confusing average out as just "DR" on the botl 09:23 No worries, Demo. Thanks for helping! I'll run it past Chris some time. 09:24 <{Demo}> I have no idea how to maintain the original intention and have it not opaque as shit though 09:24 Thanks for the help on lightsaber stuff too. I think I'll stick with Djem-so unless there's a really compelling reason to switch. 09:25 I managed to get it to Skilled even though the wiki says I should be limited to basic. That might be out of date. 09:25 <{Demo}> yeah you probably don't have enough skill slots to switch at this point if you are already invested 09:25 <{Demo}> oh yeah that is, it got made so all alignments can have all 09:26 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:3332 09:26 Also it looks like DSM is medium now (wiki suggests it's heavy), So I might swap out the jumpsuit at some point. Otherwise my AC is just going to be rubbish all game. 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4385 points, T:4141, killed by a soldier ant 09:26 [hdf-us] [un] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 725 points, T:1013, killed by a bugbear 09:27 <{Demo}> yeah, you probably want to do that 09:27 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 34465 points, T:3618, killed by a fire ant 09:29 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in four variants" unlocked by eraserhead97! 09:31 Probably should've grabbed plasteel from the home level, but reflection is nice, and I already went back there a second time and almost did not get out. 09:32 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:11790 09:32 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11798 09:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3020 09:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Campos (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9226 09:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Bag of Holding", on T:14004 09:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Spellbook of Identify", on T:14007 09:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Campos (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9233 09:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 658 points, T:535, killed by a rabid rat 10:04 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Arc Gul Mal Law), 1079 points, T:1930, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 10:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "historic thoroughly holy very greased extinguished +5 gray dragon scale mail named no dragons were slain in the production of this armour", on T:7291 10:13 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:12883 10:13 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Reaver, on T:12883 10:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible every1's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:7943 10:15 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 10:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:1050 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Curate, on T:31640 10:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:17764 10:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 blue dragon scale mail", on T:4821 10:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:18379 10:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Lokoban, on T:2775 10:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] cup (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:11687 10:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Minetown, on T:8709 10:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:8744 10:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:8802 10:36 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:13253 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 t-shirt", on T:87921 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Canoness, on T:32602 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh4] Elle (hackedhead) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 22247 points, T:1923, killed by a hobbit 10:44 <@grouchy> @K2 - Hi, so the restored game still shows the same message - should I assume that is lost? 10:44 no 10:45 one sec 10:47 @grouchy try it now. but based on behavior may have to restore from an older save. we'll see 10:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52039 10:48 yup 10:48 <{Demo}> is this the evilhack game with the changing lev3el fucker? 10:48 <@grouchy> @K2 .... same 10:48 <{Demo}> *level fuckrey 10:48 {Demo} what? 10:48 <{Demo}> the evilhack game where it shits its pants when going up from the bottom of vlads 10:49 @grouchy what day did this first happen, monday right? 10:49 <{Demo}> im curious what happened with that one cause ndnh has had a similar bug and i quit seeing it after making a certain change and also i swear i've seen the bug in dnh 10:49 <{Demo}> are there any containers that are generated on the abyss level of vlads? 10:49 no 10:50 <@grouchy> @K2 I think so, maybe sunday - but the days are starting to run together. 10:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:19298 10:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:52043 10:51 <{Demo}> having cyclical days of the week is really fucking weird 10:52 @grouchy try now, restored a backup from what I think is the right day 10:52 <{Demo}> what happens to items dropped down the abyss? 10:52 they are gone 10:52 <@grouchy> @K@ YouDaMan 10:53 except invocation items and AoY 10:53 <{Demo}> maybe thats what broke shit? 10:53 he didnt drop any of those 10:53 at least i dont think he did 10:53 <{Demo}> not those items, any item falling over top of it 10:53 @grouchy yay 10:53 {Demo} what do you mean 10:53 <{Demo}> some object with a timer attached to it fell off the into the void maybe? 10:54 ah 10:54 <@grouchy> @K2 ... unfortunately, just after I stupidly vapourized magicbane, but still.... 10:54 @grouchy how many turns back? 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Lama, on T:33383 10:54 {Demo} he was going up the stairs, wasnt aware of anything being dropped 10:55 <@grouchy> @K2 - probably one before the save - I walked away in disgust for a while 10:55 ok 10:55 <{Demo}> k2 its breaking when it is trying to save the level 10:55 i dont know 10:55 <{Demo}> because he is leaving it and there is some timer fuckery 10:56 i have a copy of the save 10:56 <{Demo}> hell, you might even be able to fix the save by opening it in a game in a debugger and fucking with the timer chain a bit and then going up the stairs 10:56 will need to play with it 10:57 {Demo} last time I tred something like that it invalidated the save. you cant edit 3.x based saves like that 10:57 <{Demo}> i dont mean editing the save directly 10:57 <{Demo}> you can load the save, yeah? 10:57 <{Demo}> or nah? 10:57 one sec 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:33520 10:59 it segfaults the second i try and load the game 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33545 10:59 <{Demo}> ah, damn 10:59 <{Demo}> might be able to cheese it into loading 11:00 <{Demo}> what's it segfault on? 11:01 it'd be a fun and interesting bit of surgery to get it to work from there 11:01 I wonder if you can break before segfault, edit variables, save 11:01 <{Demo}> probably not that bad if it is just loading a fucked timer 11:01 this doesnt make sense 11:01 https://termbin.com/c6g77 11:01 thats not the same bt I got initally 11:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:3630 11:02 <{Demo}> uh oh 11:02 yikes 11:03 <{Demo}> looks like save is turbocorrupted oh well 11:03 <{Demo}> its not like theres just a bad timer on there that it can't cope with 11:04 https://termbin.com/wl4u 11:04 ^ original bt 11:05 @grouchy did you drop anything in vlads tower? the cavern level? 11:05 (or maybe a monster did) 11:05 <{Demo}> any monsters generated with items w/ timers? 11:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:05 <{Demo}> that could have been killed over the abyss 11:06 <@grouchy> @K2 not that I recall - no worries, I can take it from here. 11:06 <@grouchy> @K2 Thanks for the restore 11:06 no prob 11:06 i just want to prevent this from happening again 11:07 <{Demo}> I honestly don't know how timer/item attachment works 11:08 <{Demo}> you still have the original crash coredump? 11:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:4179 11:08 i just linked it 11:08 <{Demo}> I would 'up' until im on the stackframe of the obj_is_local call and print *obj 11:08 <{Demo}> no the coredump 11:08 <{Demo}> not the backtrace 11:08 i can recreate the crash 11:08 <{Demo}> the backtrace doesn't mean shit 11:09 <@grouchy> @K2 - there was a lot going on - I had multiple dragon pets, was flying (because of riding a dragon), + levitating (via spell) because I died on my last attempt because my dragon was killed out from under me... this part of Evilhack is new to me, so is interesting. 11:09 <{Demo}> my guess is that obj->where is fucky because the object has since been freed and the ptr on the timer is stale 11:09 {Demo} doesnt matter i can recreate the crash 11:09 <{Demo}> oh you can, nice 11:09 <{Demo}> how? 11:10 go to bottom vlad level, wish up something that you can light (in this case, candles) 11:10 light candles, drop them in the abyss 11:10 <{Demo}> wow i guessed right 11:10 try to leave the level 11:10 BOOP 11:10 <{Demo}> usually a good bit off on my first guess on something with so many open options 11:10 a simple fix would be to unlight any lit object that drops? 11:11 <{Demo}> ehhh 11:11 <{Demo}> I'd look at how destroying other items generically works 11:11 <{Demo}> what's some vanilla code that'll destroy a generic item and is known to work safely? 11:11 <{Demo}> where's the code for dropping shit into the abyss? 11:12 one sec 11:13 testing a couple more things 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 163 points, T:920, killed by a hobbit 11:13 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:13648 11:13 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:13648 11:15 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 11:15 whoa github changed the look/feel 11:16 <{Demo}> yeah it sucks 11:17 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:13693 11:20 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "holy fixed greased bag of holding", on T:13719 11:20 {Demo} look here - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/do.c#L397 11:20 <{Demo}> oh hmm, it seems that when you drop an item it gets sent to purgatory 11:20 <{Demo}> yeah already found that and looking at it 11:21 i may be slow, working at same time 11:21 <{Demo}> yeah, gotcha 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 423 points, T:2426, killed by a sewer rat 11:22 <{Demo}> yeah so it looks like you are just returning TRUE from flooreffects when you drop a non indestructible item (theres a macro or function for checking if the item ins indestructible somewhere or something you should be using instead of checking it the way you are also I think) 11:22 <{Demo}> and when you return TRUE from flooreffects, dropz just exits 11:22 <{Demo}> so the item being dropped is never being destroyed and just exists between being dropped and being on the floor 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 131 points, T:334, killed by a goblin 11:23 i should have made this its own function like water_damage or lava_damage 11:24 <{Demo}> there needs to be code that actually removes the item properly 11:24 seriously though, I should just be able to add delobj(obj); in that bracket 11:24 <{Demo}> and if you wanna see how to do that, take inspiration from lava_damage 11:24 right 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Matriarch, on T:34566 11:24 delobj() 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:34567 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] cup (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13028 11:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11876 11:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:20220 11:29 \o/ 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] cup (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed murgatroid99's ghost, the former Joshu, on T:13497 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:34592 11:31 yup that fixes it 11:31 that wont fix @grouchy's old game though since the event already happened 11:31 but, it'll prevent it from happening again 11:32 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha) shouted "The rust monster eats 8 darts (8 aum)!", on T:109 11:32 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha) shouted "It's fine; he can't hurt me.", on T:116 11:33 <{Demo}> lmk when you push a fix so I can take a peek 11:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:20998 11:35 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] cup (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed +3 fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:14207 11:40 pushed 11:40 <{Demo}> how do 3.6 anti-hangup cheating improvements work? 11:42 EvilHack updated (all servers) 11:42 ^ bugfix 11:45 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 884 points, T:1853, killed by a dwarvish spear 11:47 hi 11:47 Hello bugsniper, Welcome to #hardfought 11:48 K2, can evilhack snakes choke you? 11:48 no 11:48 -!- j6p has joined #hardfought 11:49 pythons can grab and pull you into water like eels can (vanilla behavior) 11:49 giant anacondas can engulf/digest you 11:50 Oh my 11:50 Can I destroy a cursed dagger by dipping it in fountains? 11:51 in evilhack/grunthack yes 11:51 what about UnNetHack? 11:51 same with cloth/leather cursed objects in a forge 11:51 Andrio i dont think unnethack completely destroys objects via erosion 11:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1256 11:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic chest", on T:57352 11:53 It does from rust monster attacks. 11:53 And ooze/pudding attacks. Losing your cloak of magic resistance that way sucks. 11:54 yup, gotta be careful 11:56 @www fixed xnh wiki page 11:56 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha) shouted "Oh hey, floating eye tin", on T:1555 11:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13993 12:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:21549 12:00 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1815 points, T:2664, killed by a giant bat 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2225 12:02 <@grouchy> @K2 - I've recovered that game back to the point where it crashed, and saved - Saw the conversation about delobj() - I didn't think that I'd dropped anything, but just had a thought - I have a tame sea dragon - I didn't realize they couldn't fly - and the ladder is suspended in nowhere - I might have "magic whistled" it into the void, but I really don't remember. 12:05 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Mer Mal Neu), 943 points, T:1609, killed by a dwarf king 12:06 perhaps the invent of a slain vampire as well 12:06 <@grouchy> @K2 - Ummmm. bad news. I reached the ladder saved it, wrote the above note, got and ate a banana, and then came back and tried to return to the game, ..... and same thing. previous game exists under your name - destroy y/n. 12:07 <@grouchy> @K2 so these tourneys are really massive debug sessions? 12:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) became the Grandmaster of Balance, on T:22179 12:09 junethack is yeah :^) 12:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Val Dwa Mal Law), 19012 points, T:5837, killed by an ogre mage 12:13 @grouchy ok. please exit dgl if you havent already 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:34623 12:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:13648 12:14 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "holy magic marker", on T:15279 12:15 @grouchy ok game recovered, lets see what happens 12:17 <@grouchy> @K2 - back to here: 12:17 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/725384019465994291/unknown.png 12:17 <{Demo}> wow a dragonmaster 12:17 ok 12:17 yeah sea dragons cant fly 12:17 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 12:17 you should probably get it off that level 12:18 <@grouchy> It's a bit of a cheat - but with the aggressive nature of monsters (like dragons) in Evilhack, they eat the baddies for me - I have limitless charm monster 12:18 also, I made a backup of the backup, so worst case scenario, we'll get back to this point 12:18 <@grouchy> sweet 12:18 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in five variants" unlocked by Nabru! 12:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Val Hum Fem Law), 87237 points, T:14030, killed by a crocodile 12:20 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:41, on T:15304 12:20 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:15306 12:21 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1141 points, T:4531, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 12:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:56425 12:27 <@grouchy> @K2 - able to go up ladder - no crash this time 12:30 yay 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh13d] nabru (Val Fem), 362 points, T:333, mimic 12:32 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha) shouted "Thanks for the 47 rings, Feyfer", on T:2436 12:33