00:01 <{Demo}> why does un do shit like that? 00:01 <{Demo}> so many anti qol changes 00:02 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 00:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 8622 points, T:4367, killed by a scorpion 00:04 bouquet or use wand of secret door detection 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dogleaf (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 726 points, T:2257, killed by a kobold lord, while fainted from lack of food 00:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 2801 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34500 00:05 Or the Bell of Opening. 00:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34512 00:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 420 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34861 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dogleaf (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 115 points, T:477, killed by a falling rock 00:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 514 points, T:915, killed by handling a silver amulet of strangulation 00:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:12 ^ wewt 00:12 <{Demo}> did it like eat ur hands? 00:14 {Demo}: it's ok. Frankly, I think the conf gold det makes the planes too easy. They're the "end game". They should be extra challenging. 00:15 The silver amulet of strangulation wraps around your wrist! It sears your flesh! You die... 00:15 Oh god~ 00:15 Ever tried the Plane of Fire in permanent hallucination? It's 'fun'. 00:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Herbalist, on T:35869 00:16 <{Demo}> why would a human be killed by touching silver? 00:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:35919 00:17 lycanthropy, i'd guess 00:17 <{Demo}> ohhh 00:19 resize -v 80% 00:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:36610 00:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:37113 00:34 <@Lawman0> Nice 00:35 Going to eat his wand of death? 00:39 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Rog Vam Fem Law), 1274520 points, T:79100, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/unnethack/dumplog/1591211388.un.txt.html 00:39 woo. 00:40 Congrats :o 00:40 Death was spazzing out. He was running all over the place and never came near me. 00:41 <@Sig> Grats bouquet 00:43 Yikes just found a glitch in 3.7. Who do i tell that to? 00:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Mon Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of free action", on T:15955 00:44 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues ? 00:44 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in two variants" unlocked by bouquet! 00:44 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in two variants" unlocked by bouquet! 00:45 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended two variants" unlocked by bouquet! 00:45 Junethack: bouquet ascended a game of UnNetHack on www.hardfought.org! 00:45 Thx Andrio 00:45 <@riker> what's the issue specifically? 00:45 <@riker> could be weird intended behavior 00:45 <@riker> belated grats bouquet 00:46 Its a shopping glitch i wouldnt want to get exploited 00:47 Well more specifically i used something i didnt own, got charged for it but got the money instead and then was able to sell the item i didnt own. 00:49 <@riker> you sure you didnt pay for the item when you paid for using it? 00:50 I didnt have remotely enough. 00:51 <@riker> huh neat 00:51 mad props to Bhaak for making Un so fun and well balanced. 00:51 I know because i had just used dizzyprice to check it. 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:46997 00:52 I mean, I knew the buy price and entered it to find out what it was. 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47000 00:56 01:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:05 <@microlance> where the fack is vlad, must i use my magic lamp for a magic markers wish 01:12 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 01:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44043 01:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44044 01:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) genocided gnomes, on T:44186 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 21550 points, T:8101, killed by a vampire bat 01:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44980 01:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44984 01:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:45261 01:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:45755 01:33 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4996 points, T:3187, killed by a killer bee 01:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:45783 01:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:45887 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Agrius (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3596 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Agrius (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the hell hound, the former Digger, on T:3596 01:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:46539 01:42 <@microlance> when can i pray again? on castle level? 01:43 <@microlance> ive got a pickaxe stuck in my hand and no way to remove it 01:45 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4348 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Agrius (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1983 points, T:3884, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hill orc, while sleeping 01:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3440 01:47 <@microlance> nooo hermes hates me 01:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1939 01:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:4011 01:53 -!- Agrius1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4174 01:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:48240 01:55 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 01:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:48464 02:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:48472 02:02 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 17508 points, T:7524, killed by a tiger 02:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:48512 02:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Cha), 1087283 points, T:48512, ascended 02:02 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/nethack/dumplog/1591654146.nh.html 02:02 grats ^_^ 02:04 <@Sig> Grats Microlance 02:04 woo, congrats! 02:05 <@microlance> You were very unlucky. thats not a common one on ascends i think 02:05 wooop! 02:05 congratulations @microlance 02:05 <@microlance> must have been all the cannibalism i had to resort to, because i got intrinsic regen for the lulz 02:05 <@microlance> ty 02:06 <@microlance> this should have been atleast a couple of turns quicker. i spent too long searching for vlads tower on the wrong floors 02:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:07 <@microlance> pickaxing around like a fool 02:07 <@microlance> then i noticed i had already discovered it 02:07 and cursed pickaxe in gnom? 02:07 <@luxidream> gg 02:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +5 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4912 02:08 <@microlance> i got it cursed in asmodeus lair 02:08 <@microlance> got it off with a fountain on floor 13 or something 02:08 <@luxidream> you run around in hell without holy water? 02:09 <@microlance> not really, i was lazy this time around and didnt bother dip and make more since castle 02:09 <@microlance> used my last one on a second magic lamp for the cheat helm 02:09 <@luxidream> haha cheat hhelm 02:10 <@microlance> but really my god deserved it. he refused to help me just because i was a cannibal 02:10 <@microlance> eating moloch priests shouldnt count as cannibalism 02:11 <@microlance> its a symbolic act of superiority 02:11 -!- zhangoke has quit [Quit: zhangoke] 02:12 <@luxidream> yeah, at least chaotic gods should be okay with that. But they treat it like it's worse than killing people in cold blood 02:12 <@microlance> the funniest is when your a were-something and eats your race 02:12 <@microlance> and they get angry as fuck 02:12 <@luxidream> but then again alignment makes about zero sense in nethack, stormbringer is bloodthirsty but hates you when you murder people? Come on 02:13 <@microlance> yeah its odd you lose align for murdering, when you lose nothing else 02:13 <@luxidream> YANI: when wielding stormbringer, you gain alignment for killing peacefuls and pets, rather than lose it 02:13 Junethack: microlance ascended a game of NetHack 3.7.0 on eu.hardfought.org! 02:14 <@microlance> healer gets pretty good i noticed when you get the staff and vorpal. they compliment each other well 02:16 <@microlance> and the wiki recommends a crysknife or silver saber for gehennom. and never even mentions the vorpal. doing gehennom with a crysknife must be true hell mode 02:19 <@luxidream> crysknife is d10/d10 02:20 <@luxidream> almost as good as vorpal 02:20 <@luxidream> but the wiki has a lot of questionable advice on weapons 02:28 <@microlance> the vorpal can vorpal more or less everything threatening 02:29 <@microlance> the oddest thing about the wiki, is how anti-crowning it is. 02:29 <@microlance> its not like the increased prayer timer matters. you hardly pray anyways after the very early game 02:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of reflection", on T:28482 02:38 <@luxidream> I’m a big advocate for drowning 02:38 <@luxidream> Err, crowning 02:38 <@luxidream> Thanks autocorrect 02:38 lol 02:38 <@Sig> Luxidream confirmed for eel 02:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7604 02:40 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Curtis, his faithful little dog, on T:932 02:42 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1052 02:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Dogleaf's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3960 02:44 <@microlance> k2, killed by handling an amulet of strangulation 02:45 ? 02:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 289438 points, T:39661, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tommo/nethack4/dumplog/2020-06-09%2006%3A46%3A05%2C%20Tommo-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law%2C%20ascended.txt 02:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3239 points, T:4147, killed by a soldier ant 02:47 congrats Tommo! 02:47 i did it!!! 02:47 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed k2's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:1633 02:47 my first ascension <3_<3 02:48 <@Sig> Grats tommo 02:48 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:1731 02:52 "you killed 255 gremlins" im pretty dam sure it was more than that 02:52 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by Tommo! 02:52 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by Tommo! 02:52 Junethack: Tommo ascended a game of NetHack4 on www.hardfought.org! 02:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Heroine, on T:29405 02:55 bouquet: congrats and thanks 02:55 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:56 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Minetown, on T:2673 03:05 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3530 03:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:41155 03:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:41157 03:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:56973 03:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Wizra (phollenback) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 43034 points, T:6898, killed by a white unicorn 03:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Mon Swn Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:20566 03:29 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3876 03:32 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4281 03:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Mon Swn Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:21426 03:41 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5385 03:42 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:44 -!- rsa has joined #hardfought 03:54 !pom 03:54 rsa: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 10 days. 03:56 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Sam Hum Mal Law), 17574 points, T:7409, killed by a leocrotta, while praying 04:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Mon Swn Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:21844 04:04 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 363 points, T:1091, killed by a water moccasin 04:05 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:11 Junethack: New user Numbgoon registered! https://junethack.net/user/Numbgoon 04:15 <@Sig> Note to self, don't even bother with Law 2 and 3 as a character weak to iron 04:15 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 04:15 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3181 04:17 -!- zjmc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:18 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 04:19 [hdf-au] [nh363] Numbgoon (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2069 points, T:4489, quit 04:20 is the mob of soldiers too much if you're iron weak Sig? 04:23 <@Sig> It was for me 04:23 <@Sig> Had to get out of there once I hit the castle proper 04:24 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:2433 04:24 <@Sig> I'm also a monk so I don't have the DR you'd get from body armor 04:24 I'm currently playing monk as well, and abusing the heck out of the protection spell 04:24 <@Sig> It's real helpful, yeah. 04:25 but human so not got that iron weakness 04:25 I've not done the neutral quest ever, little nervous about taking that on later 04:26 dnh is really fun so far 04:29 <@Sig> I like it a lot, yeah. I've found the second part of the law quest pretty easy when you're not iron weak, you just have to have good enough defensive stats to tank a lot of weak hits. 04:29 <@Sig> The neutral quest is definitely the one with the highest learning curve 04:32 I was so worried by the chaos quest, had to get handheld through it, haha 04:33 <@Sig> Lol. Which Chaos did you get? 04:33 there was a tower of some form 04:34 idk the name offhand but probably the first one not the new ones 04:37 [hdf-au] [nh370] Numbgoon (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 172 points, T:468, killed by a goblin 04:38 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7483 04:40 <@Sig> That sounds like the Chaos temple, yeah. The only one I've never done at all, actually. 04:43 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 4457 points, T:4057, killed by a soldier ant, while frozen by a potion 04:59 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:4270 05:00 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a kobold lord, on T:5472 05:04 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:04 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:11012 05:06 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:6812 05:06 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:6880 05:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:11 Amy were porkman's slex ascensions done on a server? 05:11 amateurhour: yes, on em.slashem.me 05:11 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:11 oh, they seem to be missing from https://scoreboard.xd.cm/ascended.slx.html 05:12 thought I was going crazy because I remembered watching him ascend on a server 05:13 damn, maybe Mandevil knows what's up? but he doesn't seem to be here 05:14 did the endpoint for the xlogfiles etc change with version bumps? 05:16 *whew* I thought it was an anthole but it was only a small group of soldier ants 05:16 something like that maybe, or we didn't link them properly 05:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:40734 05:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:27 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 13420 points, T:8662, petrified by a cockatrice 05:33 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:50 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by Stiv! 05:50 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by Stiv! 05:50 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by Stiv! 05:51 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by Stiv! 05:51 Junethack: Stiv ascended a game of UnNetHack on ascension.run! 05:51 Congrats, Stiv! 05:51 [hdf-us] [dyn] Jasper (johanv) (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 904792 points, T:70681, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/johanv/dynahack/dumplog/2020-06-09%2005_51_47%2C%20Jasper-Rog-Vam-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 05:52 woo gratz Stiv and johanv 05:56 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law), 853 points, T:1834, killed by a rabid rat 05:59 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended two variants" unlocked by johanv! 05:59 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in two variants" unlocked by johanv! 05:59 Junethack: johanv ascended a game of DynaHack on www.hardfought.org! 06:02 !who 06:02 elenmirie_: [hdf-us] johanv [dyn] musicdemon [slex] eraserhead97 [xnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [dyn] mobileuser [evil] Raisse [nh343] microlance [xnh] | [hdf-au] Numbgoon [nh370] 06:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 256 points, T:1619, killed by an arrow 06:14 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:2482 06:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Numbgoon (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2211 06:19 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed figurine of ki-rin", on T:2513 06:22 -!- rsa has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:28 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3050 06:33 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Hum Fem Cha), 147 points, T:193, killed by a poisonous corpse 06:36 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:36 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Hum Fem Cha), 637 points, T:1187, killed by a giant bat 06:36 [hdf-us] [slex] Zorb (musicdemon) (Dra Ele Mal Law) killed the yeoman of stoicjin, the former Keeper, on T:3535 06:40 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 240 points, T:1184, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:42 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Hum Fem Cha), 1086 points, T:2006, killed by a pony 06:45 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Hum Fem Cha), 463 points, T:1087, killed by a werejackal 06:47 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered Kurre, her faithful pony, on T:3643 06:49 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Hum Fem Cha), 1000 points, T:1312, killed by a dagger 06:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:58061 06:50 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 134 points, T:541, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 07:05 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5114 07:08 Junethack: New user bagun registered! https://junethack.net/user/bagun 07:09 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 07:10 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 824 points, T:2532, killed by a kobold zombie, while fainted from lack of food 07:12 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 318 points, T:602, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 07:13 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 07:13 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 138 points, T:402, killed by a newt, while praying 07:15 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 07:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 55 points, T:308, killed by a jackal 07:33 -!- zhangoke has quit [Quit: zhangoke] 07:33 [hdf-us] [slex] Zorb (musicdemon) (Dra Ele Mal Law) killed the valkyrie of nabru, the former Skirmisher, on T:4982 07:33 !tell nabru found you :) 07:33 nabru shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, musicdemon. 07:34 Heh 07:34 nabru: Message from musicdemon at 2020-06-09 07:33 EDT: found you :) 07:34 :D 07:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1757 07:36 epitaph was 'FORA BOLSONARO' o.o 07:36 -!- Glasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:37 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 07:38 Yep, that was me :D 07:39 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:39 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:40 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ill Fem Law), 233 points, T:695, killed by a droven bolt 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 38 points, T:443, killed by a sewer rat 07:41 o que é o fórum bolsonaro? isso é uma mensagem política? 07:41 sim LarienTelrunya, foi só uma piadinha 07:41 :D 07:42 (was only a joke) 07:42 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:42 Didn't even know people read those epitaphs 07:42 haha :D 07:42 Se você é do Brasil, conhece o cantor adorável Ive Mendes, que tem um pacote tão longo? ♥ 07:43 Hmm... nunca ouvi falar dele/dela 07:44 aww, isso é lamentável ... mas ela tem uma voz tão macia! aqui: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMQoAK_3tMk ♥♥♥ 07:44 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 07:46 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Arc Ill Fem Cha), 2087 points, T:410, killed by a monster (Pustulence) 07:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:58324 07:54 Amy is there a guide to slex anywhere? might give it a proper go later in the tournament 07:54 some like 'standard strategy here's what you need to know, noob' guide 07:55 uhh well, there's https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Slash%27EM_Extended#Getting_started - specifically https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Hints is useful 07:57 alright, I'll maybe start there then, thanks 07:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Filcher, on T:51578 08:00 of course you can also always ask me stuff about slex while I'm here, I like to watch others play and give advice :) 08:09 [hdf-eu] [slshm] HarmathZsolt (Nec Dop Mal Cha), 1398282 points, T:86514, killed by Demogorgon 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 60676 points, T:15251, killed by a winged gargoyle 08:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1619 points, T:3746, killed by a gnome mummy 08:21 -!- shaodwcat has joined #hardfought 08:22 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 8 points, T:32, killed by opening a silver container 08:23 [hdf-eu] [xnh] microlance (Kni Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:7367 08:24 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 08:24 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:462 08:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 562 points, T:1382, killed by a gnome 08:35 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4263 points, T:3583, killed by a gnome lord 08:37 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed the warg, the former Bandit, on T:2738 08:38 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2893 08:40 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:41 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3469 08:43 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3610 08:43 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:3622 08:45 -!- shaodwcat has quit [Quit: shaodwcat] 08:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of free action", on T:41226 08:50 morning 08:51 Morning, K2 08:51 o/ 08:52 good evening Andrio 08:52 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2020 points, T:4401, killed by a rothe 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 81 points, T:191, killed by a water moccasin 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:9486 08:57 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ill Fem Cha), 2782 points, T:931, quit 08:58 wtf, nabru why'd you quit? illithid valkyrie is certainly a powerful combo 08:58 LarienTelrunya, made a mistake and got stuck in a vault 08:58 but you can phase door out of those! 08:58 I was out of scrolls of phase door 08:58 #technique phase door? 08:59 hm, didn't think of that 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 655 points, T:1986, killed by a manes 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Smut, his faithful kitten, on T:544 09:05 The vault has doors? 09:06 nah, "phase door" is a short-range teleport, always uncontrolled, that transports the player to a location that's at most 100 euclidean distance away 09:07 and everyone has that as a technique right? 09:07 aosdict: Message from AntiGulp at 2020-06-08 21:58 EDT: (a) That’s literally the lovecraft mythos, they carry people off and tickle them (b) the monster was stole nfrom Slashem 09:07 yeah 09:07 <@microlance> aosdict, why are the oracle so imba in xnet? it killed my kirin 09:07 it's to reduce the risk that the player gets stuck, with slex's very random walls-and-terrain creation routines :D 09:07 I still find the uses of Euclidean distance mostly weird in NetHack, because it doesn't use Euclidean geometry 09:07 what is "imba" 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3126 09:08 "imba" = imbalanced = unbalanced 09:08 imbalanced? 09:08 <@microlance> that it murdered my kirin 09:08 <@microlance> i think a kirin should murder a oracle 09:08 I didn't change the oracle's combat at all 09:08 in vanilla the oracle's passive attack didn't affect pets IIRC, but maybe 3.6/3.7 changed that 09:09 it also affects pets (and kills them easily) in slashem/slex 09:09 I think I've had hostile monsters get killed by the Oracle once 09:09 good old fashioned variant paranoia 09:09 have a level 18 pet dragon in slex? don't lead it to the oracle, it eats three 6d10 or so magic missiles per attack :P 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1825 points, T:3265, killed by a hill orc 09:10 <@microlance> i thought the mr on the kirin would be enough 09:10 @v?ki-rin 09:10 <@microlance> to survive the missiles 09:10 ki-rin (A) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: dungeons | AC: -5 | Attacks: 2d4 kick physical, 2d4 kick physical, 3d6 butt physical, 2d6 cast spell | Alignment: 15 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 09:10 <{Demo}> amy what 09:10 <{Demo}> oh you said slashem 09:10 they don't have MR (and the MR percentage doesn't do anything to mitigate magic missile damage) 09:10 <{Demo}> yeah nah in slashem hes a fucking death trap for pets 09:10 <{Demo}> like your movanic deva minion? well too bad, it walked into the oracles room and killed itself off him 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1437 points, T:2668, killed by a human zombie 09:12 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4207 points, T:2409, killed by an ice vortex, while praying 09:13 her 09:13 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:17 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in six variants" unlocked by johanv! 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 678 points, T:1672, killed by a dwarf 09:21 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2956 points, T:2501, killed by a killer bee 09:21 [hdf-us] [spl] johanv (Dra Dro Mal Neu), 59 points, T:126, killed by a rabid rat 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 170 points, T:321, killed by a giant spider 09:23 [hdf-us] [spl] johanv (Kni Ang Mal Law), 62 points, T:99, caught himself in his own magical blast 09:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3038 09:27 <@microlance> this 88 gold lamp in minetown dnet is it a magic lamp? 09:28 [hdf-us] [spl] johanv (Pir Gno Fem Neu), 230 points, T:790, killed by a hobbit 09:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:3206 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1506 points, T:2764, killed by a gnome mummy 09:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1278 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 174 points, T:353, killed by a small mimic 09:38 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 09:38 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 09:38 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 09:39 [hdf-eu] [slex] AmyBSOD (Trs Ton Fem Neu), 173314 points, T:15189, killed by a monster (villithid) 09:39 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest89112 09:39 -!- Guest89112 has quit [Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 09:39 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 09:40 [hdf-us] [spl] johanv (Car Vam Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1257 09:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of reflection", on T:8974 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 242 points, T:977, killed by a falling rock 09:44 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 09:44 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest26318 09:44 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 310 points, T:528, killed by a coyote 09:45 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest91598 09:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 09:45 -!- Guest91598 has quit [Killed (tolkien.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 09:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 09:46 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by AmyBSOD! 09:47 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Nec Ill Fem Law), 7200 points, T:2067, killed by a monster (insolent monkey) 09:48 [hdf-eu] [slex] AmyBSOD (Sym Per Fem Law), 225 points, T:321, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:48 -!- Guest26318 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:50 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 09:50 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 09:53 <{Demo}> does anyone know how alchemy works in vanilla now? 09:53 <{Demo}> do diluted potions of healing give diminished healing? 09:53 <{Demo}> can I alchemize with a diluted potion? 09:54 No, and yes 09:54 <{Demo}> oh, thats super chill then 09:54 IIRC the only chance recently has been to nerf alchemising stacks of potions at once 09:54 change* 09:55 only a few types of potions have different effects if diluted, including booze and fruit juice 09:55 But not any kind of healing. 09:59 <{Demo}> shoutout rings of carrying in xnh 09:59 Anything of carrying really. 09:59 Especially if it's a T-shirt. 10:00 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had a long sword named Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:9628 10:01 wand of extra healing (fucked) 10:01 quite fitting 10:01 Oh dear 10:01 lol is that in slex? can't think of any other variant where that would be a wand appearance :P 10:02 LarienTelrunya, yep 10:02 :D 10:03 <{Demo}> what does that mean? 10:03 it's just a randomized appearance and has no further effect 10:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:07 [hdf-eu] [slex] Donald Trump (AmyBSOD) (Pol Tro Mal Cha) averted death, on T:642 10:09 <@princessSpicycat> i bet slex was once a variant designed in seriousness, but then people were too harsh and so it was easier to just play the villain and code it randomly 10:09 what? slex *is* still being designed in seriousness 10:09 it's just the players who aren't taking it seriously :P 10:09 (except those who do, e.g. porkman) 10:14 <{Demo}> slex is designed in delusion 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] Otto (Lyra) (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 29903 points, T:2188, killed by a hill orc 10:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:32462 10:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class U), on T:32463 10:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:32464 10:15 <{Demo}> zero hesitation on that one 10:19 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Dan Chn Fem Law), 28 points, T:78, killed by a jackal 10:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11929 10:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 5626 points, T:4713, killed by a piranha 10:27 [hdf-us] [spl] johanv (Car Vam Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7445 10:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:32971 10:29 <{Demo}> kinda feel like the grays wish was ok now 10:31 we're not judging 10:31 LPT: don't chat to newts as a dancer. 10:31 <{Demo}> the neighborhood feels a lot friendlier now 10:31 <{Demo}> demo is dead, and U and L are gone 10:31 <{Demo}> just gotta rid of z 10:31 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Dan Chn Fem Law), 29 points, T:1311, killed by a fox 10:32 <{Demo}> "The gelatinous cube coughs!" uhh, why do they even breathe? 10:34 wait, the dancer is actually implemented already? 10:34 [hdf-us] [spl] johanv (Car Vam Fem Cha), 17641 points, T:8757, killed by a chameleon imitating a phoenix 10:35 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in seven variants" unlocked by johanv! 10:35 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in four variants" unlocked by bouquet! 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 33863 points, T:16346, killed by a giant zombie 10:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33424 10:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33504 10:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33505 10:45 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1645 10:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 133 points, T:437, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a potion 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:14749 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14877 10:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 290 points, T:343, killed by an orc zombie 10:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:41, on T:34165 10:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 blue dragon scale mail", on T:3603 10:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34197 11:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1612 11:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:34237 11:03 -!- cebolla has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:34462 11:09 <{Demo}> fuck u rodney for summoning that guy 11:10 'Oh dang, she's already killed Demogorgon. I guess I'll have to settle for this guy then.' 11:11 -!- cebolla has joined #hardfought 11:13 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3754 11:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:34715 11:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:34718 11:15 are Myconid Warriors good for intrinsics or am I just going to hallucinate? 11:16 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1163 points, T:2122, killed by a giant spider 11:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Scooty Toots (spicycat) (Tou Gno Fem Neu) killed the ghost of Wizra, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1840 11:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:46838 11:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:34861 11:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "fixed blessed +2 amulet of reflection", on T:46840 11:24 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13468 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Big Room, on T:15004 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1267 points, T:1911, killed by the wrath of Anhur 11:30 So I step onto a floor and a few turns later, a wild rust monster appears 11:31 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 763 points, T:2057, killed by a sewer rat 11:33 <@luxidream> ah, there are dilapidated armories in un 11:33 <@luxidream> don't go in lol 11:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed ring of levitation", on T:34908 11:34 Junethack: New user jzkirtley registered! https://junethack.net/user/jzkirtley 11:34 It was way too shallow to see one of those. 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 14223 points, T:6179, killed by a carnivorous ape 11:35 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 360 points, T:1197, killed by a giant bat 11:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1207 points, T:2298, killed by a rock piercer, while sleeping 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 34 points, T:305, killed by a goblin 11:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:40 (for the 5th time), on T:35121 11:37 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ill Fem Law), 6237 points, T:1358, killed by a monster (giant mummy) 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 25 points, T:222, killed by a fox 11:37 <{Demo}> why cant i cursed gain level to bypass rodney? 11:37 <{Demo}> why is that not a valid move? 11:37 <{Demo}> in 3.4.3 that works if you dont wanna kill him that spawning 11:38 maybe Rodney uses an aimbot and a wallhack :P 11:38 -!- zhangoke has quit [Client Quit] 11:39 Why are both down staircases in the same room? 11:39 <{Demo}> he just stalks me to the next level 11:39 <{Demo}> as if he is next to me, even when he isnt 11:39 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Gno Fem Neu), 5862 points, T:5454, killed by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 11:39 <{Demo}> he and his double trouble 11:40 <@luxidream> demo: he needs to be incapacitated 11:40 <@luxidream> if he's paralyzed or sleeping he won't follow you 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Smut, his faithful kitten, on T:926 11:40 <@luxidream> otherwise he uses aimbot to follow you even if not adjacent 11:41 <{Demo}> thats stupid 11:41 <{Demo}> god, it feels like xnh upped harassment frequency, maybe thats 3.6? 11:41 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:9220 11:41 <@luxidream> you're unlucky 11:41 <{Demo}> hey at least im not getting unlucky with the force 11:41 <{Demo}> that would be a lot worse 11:42 <{Demo}> but like, there is no force to get unlucky with 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:10577 11:43 yeah xnh has the 3.7 lessening of the force I think 11:43 pretty nice 11:43 <{Demo}> xnh has no force 11:43 oh right 11:44 d'oh 11:44 <{Demo}> wonder if i wanna curse grays for astral 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1764 11:45 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 613 points, T:2341, killed by a dwarf 11:45 what's that strategy? 11:48 <{Demo}> oh hmm cursed weapons dont get extra dmg against angels like blessed do to undead and demons, still helps me from getting it yanked by a bullwhip 11:49 heh, in slex cursed weapons would do bonus dmg to angels, more if heavily cursed and even more if prime cursed :P 11:49 and in dnethack too, right? 11:49 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 9 points, T:73, killed by an orcish dagger 11:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:36300 11:50 <{Demo}> yeah 11:51 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 6715 points, T:11321, killed by a gnome 11:53 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in two variants" unlocked by Andrio! 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4293 11:53 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:15011 11:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class z, on T:36419 11:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:36538 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3562 points, T:4721, killed by a fire ant 11:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:7529 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 240 points, T:414, killed by a hobbit 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 117 points, T:353, killed by a jackal 11:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:36586 11:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7132 12:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:36667 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 763 points, T:1108, killed by a dwarf 12:04 <{Demo}> "Janet the Curate swings her long sword named Vorpal Blade. Janet the Curate misses!" its a party in here 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 426 points, T:520, killed by a dagger 12:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2519446 points, T:36723, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/xnethack/dumplog/1591628314.xnh.html 12:04 yay 12:05 <{Demo}> yey, first xnh asc (last year i ended up escaping in celestial disgrace cause i rolled into astral way underprepared thinking it would be easy) 12:05 yaaaaaaaaaaay :) 12:05 !gt Demo 12:05 <{Demo}> fucked up the purple rain but it was still super effective with only like 5 or so swallowers 12:05 <{Demo}> they cleaned house pretty well 12:05 <{Demo}> until they all died 12:05 <{Demo}> but i think they ate like 2 ki-rins 12:06 when you changed direction from the pestilence altar I thought "I bet that was the lawful one..." 12:06 <@microlance> u think you got nr 1 in turn speed as well now 12:06 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ill Fem Cha), 5671 points, T:2452, killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted gnome lord) 12:07 <@luxidream> gg 12:07 <{Demo}> always go death last 12:08 <{Demo}> cause he drains ur max hp so u dont wanna do him first 12:08 <@luxidream> wait I was slower than 44k turns? 12:08 <@luxidream> rofl 12:09 <{Demo}> oh hey i got no e-word 12:11 [hdf-au] [un] Andrio (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2026 points, T:3266, killed by a plains centaur 12:12 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in six variants" unlocked by Demo! 12:12 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in four variants" unlocked by Demo! 12:12 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in five variants" unlocked by Demo! 12:12 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended four variants" unlocked by Demo! 12:12 Junethack: Demo ascended a game of xNetHack on www.hardfought.org! 12:13 congrats {Demo} 12:13 <{Demo}> thanks 12:14 gratz!! 12:14 what's next for you? 12:14 you're beating luxidream 12:14 <{Demo}> splicehack maybe 12:14 <@riker> hey demo out of curiosity which variant did you not asc? 12:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:14 <@riker> I see 5 trophied variants but 4 ascs 12:14 <@riker> slex? 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12491 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3228 12:14 <{Demo}> slashem, killed a game on it to make sure it was tracking 12:15 <{Demo}> I've got a game going but I'm just not feeling it 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3592 12:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Curate, on T:46865 12:20 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Mon Inf Fem Cha), 34768 points, T:14026, quit 12:21 <{Demo}> changeling seems nerfed to a point where it isnt very useful 12:22 <{Demo}> that seems to be a big theme for new additions in spl, just too much caution with not adding stuff that might be a little above curve to the point it is so below curve that its like, whatever 12:22 <@riker> is it still better than doppelganger for balance? 12:22 *cough*dragonmasterwhocantweardragonscale*cough* :P 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4421 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:43215 12:24 <@luxidream> it just sucks 12:24 <@luxidream> you have no healing unless polyed 12:24 <@luxidream> you have caps on what you can poly into 12:25 [hdf-us] [slex] serhei (Dea Esp Fem Cha), 56164 points, T:6091, killed by a monster (Rough Teresa's sneaker) 12:25 <@luxidream> you need to encounter whatever it is you want to poly into and get in melee with it 12:25 <{Demo}> lux, what do you recommend for an easier time in spl role/race wise? 12:25 <@luxidream> bar infernal 12:25 <{Demo}> why? 12:25 <@luxidream> free regen 12:26 <{Demo}> is it that good? does bar arti choices get buffed in any way? 12:26 <{Demo}> do barbs get buffed at all? 12:26 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 12:26 <@luxidream> I don't think so I just offered up the most braindead combo 12:26 <{Demo}> not trying to have an easier early game, trying to have an easier late/end game 12:27 <@microlance> the dream would be infernal valk 12:27 <@luxidream> oh 12:27 Barb infernal makes early game a cakewalk 12:27 <@microlance> for good first gift 12:27 <@microlance> the cleaver is no good compared to the gungnir 12:27 <{Demo}> i dont care about early game that much 12:27 Lategame dragonmaster -> tame some dragons -> use dragon blitz to nova 12:27 <{Demo}> is angel valk still good? 12:27 <@riker> wouldn't valk be best bc viva la gungnir? 12:27 Angel valk is still great 12:28 <{Demo}> ok yeah just gonna do that then 12:28 <@luxidream> angel valk is overrated imo 12:28 <{Demo}> can i offhand artifacts yet? 12:28 <@luxidream> they have trash stats for flying 12:28 <@riker> hm does spl let you 2wep artis? 12:28 <@luxidream> and no other benefits 12:28 Only gae dearg and gae buidhe 12:28 <@microlance> elf stats, its icky alright 12:28 <{Demo}> slotless flying is nuts though 12:28 Next version that changes tho 12:28 And I toss balance out the window 12:28 <@riker> acidfall and the sonic one 12:29 <@luxidream> what does slotless flying do 12:29 <@luxidream> besides let you dilute potions better 12:29 <@riker> avoid earthquakes and lava 12:29 <@microlance> if your playing evilhack it would be good very good 12:29 <@riker> dont think spl has enough earthquakes 12:29 Acidfall, sonicboom, and gungnir are probably the best choices for artifacts. 12:29 <{Demo}> does spl change artiwishing? 12:29 <@riker> what base type is sonicboom? 12:29 <{Demo}> mornignstar 12:30 <{Demo}> iirc 12:30 <@microlance> wouldnt doom blade be toptier? 12:30 {Demo}: Randomly generated artifacts don’t count against artiwishes 12:30 Oh ya, doomblade 12:30 <{Demo}> ah, but god given ones do? 12:30 <@luxidream> you can get pridwen through sacrifice 12:30 <{Demo}> does excal? 12:30 <@luxidream> bat from hell exists 12:30 <3 Bat from hell 12:30 <{Demo}> pridwen seems not for valks 12:31 <@microlance> shields are for caveman 12:31 <@microlance> only 12:31 (Disclaimer: In 0.8 artifacts are getting rebalanced / buffed, this is just for now) 12:31 Gae Bulg is useful, if you want a surefire way to kill demogorgon 12:31 <@luxidream> hey can you make war's sword give hungerless conflict 12:32 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:32 -!- Bliss5681 has joined #hardfought 12:32 @luxidream already on the list :) 12:32 <@luxidream> it's annoying using it as your main weapon and getting hungry all the time 12:32 <@luxidream> cool 12:32 <@microlance> sounds odd that it wouldnt be. i assumed so, looking at the list 12:32 <@luxidream> well the first iteration of infernals did not have hungerless regen lol 12:32 <@riker> seafoam should deal like 1d7 water damage 12:32 <@luxidream> fortunately regen is busted so I never noticed lol 12:33 <@riker> so it does cool stuff to dudes like iron golems 12:33 First iteration of infernals were literally unwinable lol (they aggro’d their own quest leader) 12:33 <@microlance> i got intrinsic regen mid gehennom on my healer i ascended earlier. and i sure noticed 12:33 <@luxidream> oh really 12:33 <@luxidream> I thought they couldn't handle the bell of opening 12:33 <@microlance> just for the cool points 12:33 <@riker> polyself fixes that I think 12:33 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 12:34 <@luxidream> well it's a platinum bell now 12:34 @luxidream Couldn’t handle the bell, auto-aggro’d their own quest leader. I found the second one out the hard way, during my first junethack. 12:34 Naive times 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:17703 12:34 <{Demo}> altar scumming is nerfed how? 12:34 <@microlance> i played an infernal priest that couldnt handle the hat, that made me so sad i didnt continue 12:34 <@microlance> quest hat 12:35 <@microlance> and that priest found bat from hell in an early junkshop 12:35 {Demo}: Altar scum nerf is deferred. Go wild. 12:35 <@luxidream> what is the planned nerf 12:35 <@luxidream> I thought altars already destroy themselves 12:36 That’s gone for now, I’m still considering how to handle it in the future. 12:36 <@microlance> and you always risk starvation if you overdo it 12:36 <@luxidream> some variants just decrease spawn rates, which makes it extremely annoying to get even the first gift 12:36 <@microlance> thats how many a lvl 5 character has died for me, waiting 100 turns a time 12:37 <@luxidream> in fourk I had a wand of create monster but it still took 30000 turns for the first gift 12:37 Jeeeeeeeez 12:37 <{Demo}> just make there be better things to do 12:37 <@riker> doesnt fourk implement piety? 12:37 Next version, I buff shit 12:37 <{Demo}> please buff shit 12:37 <@luxidream> no it's just a random roll like in vanilla 12:37 <@luxidream> so you can get haxed 12:38 <@microlance> i played some unnethack vamp, and vamps cant altarcamp. so up the hunger, less food 12:38 <@luxidream> something like fiqhack's piety system where you work up piety with sacrifices and get a gift after a while would be cool 12:38 <@luxidream> less rng 12:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:17097 12:39 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:39 <{Demo}> fiqhack piety system sucks lol 12:39 One of my biggest gripes with NetHack is that the food clock becomes essentially meaningless once you hit the castle 12:39 <{Demo}> yeah isnt it just supposed to be an early game mechanic though 12:39 <{Demo}> and after that its kind of an annoyance 12:39 <@luxidream> in most roguelikes powerful characters don't need to worry about eating 12:40 <@luxidream> I don't see this as a problem 12:40 <@microlance> you can start starving really late game tho 12:40 luxidream's argument for easy mode so he can ascend faster 12:40 I’m a big proponent of the idea that there should be some sort of “clock” in the mid to late game, since there isn’t really a sense of urgency 12:40 AntiGulp haha you said you're gonna stop caring about game balance? for real or are you just joking? ;) 12:40 <@luxidream> the wizard collapses the dungeon at 60k turns 😛 12:40 TBH while I'd be sad to see it go, isn't food almost entirely a vestige of it mattering in Rogue? 12:41 yup 12:41 “So you thought you could steal the amulet, fool!” Suddenly, the dungeon collapses. 12:41 <@microlance> 60k turns were about the turns my first ascension ever took, so its a fine breaking point 12:41 <@luxidream> 1. food kills noobs 12:41 <@luxidream> 2. you need food to get intrinsics 12:41 LarienTelrunya: I’m just going to be trying a lot of experimental stuff and upping the general power level, esp. late game. 12:42 heh, the dragonmaster could use some boost in power level by being able to actually live up to his name and wear DSM :P 12:42 Again, no. In terms of flavor, it doesn’t make sense. 12:42 <@microlance> no that would be like a vegan wearing fur 12:42 The dragonmaster is friends with dragons. 12:42 <@luxidream> no because then you're just a character who starts with a dragon 12:42 <@luxidream> what's the point 12:43 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 12:43 the slex dragonmaster gets boosts from wearing DSM 12:43 <@microlance> killing all of minetown? 12:43 Imo, i’s an interesting limitation, that changes the flow of play from similar roles. It could probably use some other interesting stuff to offset that, but I like the no DSM rule. 12:44 <@luxidream> "luxidream's argument for easy mode so he can ascend faster" no my argument so that I don't have to carry 15 food rations in my speedrun 12:44 <@luxidream> 😄 12:45 <@microlance> i have food on autopickup and im gonna quit that because ive noticed dropping food takes alot of time and it weighs too much to bring 12:46 <@microlance> make food lighter! 12:46 <@luxidream> same but I always forget to collect it so I'm keeping it on 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6262 12:47 microlance: this, but unironically :P and while we're at it, also scrolls, potions, wands, spellbooks, rings and amulets 12:47 <@luxidream> we dcss now? 12:47 <@microlance> potions and spellbooks sure weigh too much 12:47 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Val Ang Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2436 12:47 <@microlance> theres no way to bring along spellbooks 12:48 <@microlance> when you have 50+ wands and pots 12:48 <@microlance> in the boh 12:48 Tbh I’d like to see some sort of way to address the reliance on stashing as a mechanic 12:48 <@luxidream> stashing sux 12:48 I'm amazed you have any great quantity of non-junk wands 12:48 AntiGulp: slex does that, I rarely ever need to use stashes there :P 12:48 <@microlance> when i stash things i never retrieve them 12:48 <{Demo}> spl doesnt have shopkeeper services yet? 12:49 <@luxidream> one solution is to change genre and become a band 12:49 {Demo}: That’s in my backlog for next version, actually 12:49 <@luxidream> can't stash if the level isn't there anymore 12:49 <@luxidream> I like magic chests though 12:49 <{Demo}> have fun porting it 12:49 oh no 12:49 <{Demo}> i can't believe dnh did and it actually works there (hold for appraise) 12:49 <@microlance> my dnet barb is lvl 11 now. is it now i become OP? 12:50 It can’t be worse than the grenade code. I refuse. 12:51 -!- Bliss5681 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:47337 12:52 <@riker> speedrun the quest asap microlance 12:52 <@riker> once you hit xp 14 12:52 <{Demo}> I'm not sure I haven't interacted with it much 12:52 <@microlance> the pelias one? 12:52 <{Demo}> just purely out of fear 12:52 <{Demo}> cause shk code in nethack is a mess to begin with, although, I guess it doesn't have to interact with that much beyond credit 12:52 <@microlance> is there any point in me enchanting my silver saber when i have a +6 royal atlantean sword? 12:53 <@microlance> will i ever use it ass an offhand 12:53 <@riker> nope 12:53 <@riker> and yes microlance 12:53 <@riker> ARS at 6 will melt thoth amon 12:54 <@microlance> yeah it seems pretty good, a double damage two handed sword is crazy stuff 12:54 <@riker> and then you have slotless MR/reflect/drain res and can go kill anything 12:54 <@riker> !whereis NeroOneTrueKing 12:54 @riker: [hdf-us] NeroOneTrueKing [dnh]: (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) T:8120 The Dungeons of Doom level: 26 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) stole 170 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Sipaliwini's general store, on T:1021 12:55 [hdf-eu] [nh343] aoei (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5594 points, T:1430, killed by a dwarf lord 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Charon, on T:43991 12:58 AntiGulp: what are your plans for addressing the need to stash 13:00 infinite inventory slots 13:00 hah, new monster: pack mule 13:00 aosdict: Not sure yet. Magic chests seem like a decent way of dealing with it, although I like the idea of a solution that engenders player choice and decision-making. Give stashing some sort of consequence. Make resources more limited in the late game somehow, so that the game doesn’t require an insane level of inventory management. 13:00 xnh has thiefstones but I'm not entirely sure if anyone besides me uses them? 13:01 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in six variants" unlocked by aoei! 13:01 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 13:01 <@luxidream> yeah no one uses them 13:01 aosdict: I've used them in the past 13:01 <@luxidream> does any mine's end guarantee one? 13:01 <{Demo}> spl valk can stil lget excal, yeh? 13:01 people might use them more if I made it so you could re-key them to a different level 13:02 yeah, you have to get lucky with the setup as it stands 13:02 {Demo}: Yeah 13:02 <{Demo}> aosdict, thiefstones are introduced by stealing stuff from your inventory 13:02 <{Demo}> they dont seem friendly or useful to players 13:03 making them *seem* friendly or useful isn't a priority 13:03 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Val Ang Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3841 13:03 <{Demo}> uh hmm, im withering, what do I do? drink milk? 13:03 <{Demo}> oh it went away 13:03 apply silver powder 13:04 i've used thiefstones before 13:04 {Demo}: Yeah, right now it doesn’t last very long. While withering, you cannot regen, and you lose 1 hp per turn. 13:04 AntiGulp: you should make shades inflict withering 13:04 i havent found any though in my last several xnh games 13:04 AntiGulp: you should also read Shadows for Silence in the Forest of Hell, which is where that comes from 13:04 Oooh, noted 13:05 <@luxidream> I don't think stashing should be punished, not everyone wants to play the game like ais523 13:05 I like magic chests, but my issue with them is that they don’t solve the problem of having an absurd amount of resources in the late game, and they don’t require any thinking by the player. It removes the already unbalanced choice of stash / don’t stash, rather than correcting it. 13:05 <{Demo}> ndnh has an experiment running with stashes 13:05 <@luxidream> a lot of the times you have to stash early game to avoid inventory damage 13:05 I know I play the game a lot like ais does, so that’s where this is coming from. 13:06 <{Demo}> etherealoid can warp to nowhere whenever they wand and you can just use it as a giant stash 13:06 <{Demo}> wand -> want 13:06 <@riker> aosdict: that's one of the worlds I quite want a book set in 13:06 <@riker> I want to learn more about the cool evil dudes 13:06 @luxidream IME, you stash early game at the point where your character's Str isn't up to carrying around 20 potions and 20 scrolls and the food from sokoban, etc etc 13:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:8886 13:07 <@luxidream> that too 13:07 bear in mind that some players enjoy stashes and inventory management 13:07 <@luxidream> but putting things into boxes and spending hours running up and down is already its own punishment 13:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Val Ang Mal Law) had Gungnir bestowed upon him by Tyr, on T:4403 13:08 That’s a game design idea I don’t particularly agree with 13:08 If something is its own punishment, it’s still a problem that the game as a whole encourages that behavior 13:09 ^ 13:10 so make items less useful? hah 13:10 <@luxidream> I just don't think the solution is to make it harder to stash items 13:10 <@luxidream> how would you do that, exactly? 13:10 besides, its all relative. what I might find worth stashing, you might not 13:11 autotravel to make it less painful 13:11 I don’t think making stashing *harder* is the solution, but I think there is something to be said for making it less desirable. 13:11 its too easy to apply your own criteria to the problem where in all probability it doesnt align with everyone 13:12 make a pack mule that follows you everywhere. done 13:12 name is Ed 13:12 Ed the pack mule 13:12 feed it carrots 13:12 <{Demo}> genuinely you should see how ndnh etheraloid works 13:12 brb lunch 13:12 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 13:12 <{Demo}> when it comes to stash management 13:12 <@luxidream> can they get to their stash from astral though 13:12 'The Luggage' 13:13 <{Demo}> no, once they enter planes it goes by by 13:13 <{Demo}> so they gotta pack up at the end game 13:13 <@luxidream> dang 13:13 <{Demo}> also cant enter while holding amulet of yendor 13:13 <{Demo}> so you kinda get a warning that it can be made inaccessible 13:13 <{Demo}> your ability to phase out gets blocked 13:13 why does no variant other than slex implement the idea where it's possible to continue playing after ascension and return to the regular dungeon, so the player can retrieve whichever items they left behind there :P 13:14 because there's no point 13:14 <{Demo}> because nobody wants to play after theyve already won 13:15 <@luxidream> there's ziggurat in dcss, which is kinda "postgame" I guess? 13:15 "Hm, I've won but I forgot my stuff in the dungeon. Can I go back?" 13:15 <@luxidream> it's just a huge gauntlet of increasing numbers of monsters 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1946 13:15 "I'd like to go back to the dungeon to pick up some stuff to sell outside." 13:16 there is a point, maybe the player wants to go and finish up some of the branches they had originally skipped? 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:44031 13:17 <{Demo}> how do I see what monsters are wearing in spl? 13:18 <{Demo}> its hidden behind like a complex set of keystrokes 13:18 <{Demo}> i cant remember what they are 13:18 <{Demo}> ah, colon when hovering over it with farlook 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Tommo (Con Orc Fem Cha), 140 points, T:386, crunched in the head by an iron ball 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:20951 13:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] Lawman0 (Yeo Hob Mal Law), 5784 points, T:4845, killed by a water elemental of His Holiness 13:21 <@Lawman0> oops 13:22 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Val Ang Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5220 13:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:24 <{Demo}> uh oh, flipped soko 13:25 <{Demo}> what spl changes to soko are there? 13:25 <{Demo}> prize-wise 13:27 <{Demo}> upsidedown 2a, what the hell 13:27 is 2a the vanilla nightmare one? 13:27 revert sokobad imo 13:27 <{Demo}> yes amy 13:27 <{Demo}> 2a is my bane 13:28 <{Demo}> flipped 2a is like my turbobane 13:28 aka the "goddammit RNG whose idea was it to make it so that 50% of the time you get this one and why do I always have to get it" sokoban level :P 13:29 <{Demo}> just replace soko with literally anything and it would be better 13:29 also really weird that the other one (2b) is like the easiest sokoban level imaginable, so you either get turbofucked or you have a really easy time, 50% chance for each of those two 13:29 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ill Fem Law), 8835 points, T:4944, killed by a crazy ivan 13:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:18892 13:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18898 13:32 <@riker> !gt k2 13:32 Ashikaga Takauji should be immune to death magic 13:32 too easy to zappy zap, done 13:33 <@luxidream> give every quest nemesis a comr 13:34 <@luxidream> ez 13:34 heh, I just made all quest nemesis intrinsically magic resistant, problem solved :D (and it doesn't result in the player getting a guaranteed MR-giving item) 13:34 <{Demo}> what's the point of wands of death if they don't work on your enemies? 13:35 <@luxidream> what are some otherwise really dumb monsters in dnh that they work on 13:35 it feels cheap 13:35 :P 13:35 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35 <{Demo}> it would feel worse if most things worth using it on was immune 13:36 <@luxidream> well if you fought him mano a mano he would have instakilled you 13:36 <@luxidream> that's also cheap 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:21639 13:37 <@riker> @luxidream 720ish hp sessile digester that takes 1 dmg from melee attacks 13:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:37 <{Demo}> who is that rikre? 13:37 <@riker> checked his stats and no he does not resist magic 13:37 <@riker> mouth of the goat 13:37 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 13:37 <@luxidream> >sessile 13:37 <@luxidream> walk around it 13:37 <@riker> yes 13:37 <@luxidream> :V 13:37 could have, not would have 13:37 !pom 13:37 LarienTelrunya: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 10 days. 13:38 What do you want to sacrifice? [cfr or ?*] 13:38 Your sacrifice is consumed in a burst of flame! 13:38 An object appears at your feet! 13:38 The voice of Despotism thunders: "Use my gift wisely!" 13:38 Your movements are now unencumbered. 13:38 :D 13:38 <@riker> wanted the achievement luxi 13:38 <@riker> but I cant fucking read this is twice I've fucked up and not gotten the achievement 13:38 <@riker> its kill 6 dudes. first run killed 4 and went aw man. second killed 5 and still went aw man. 13:39 <{Demo}> next run ull realize theres a 7th dude u forgot 13:40 <@riker> bro I will be Upset 13:42 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 13:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 13:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:9257 13:45 {Demo}: No splice changes to Soko, despite my deep dislike for it 13:46 <{Demo}> im playing flipped 2a right now so i hope you feel very very bad about the evil you are inflicting on the world 13:46 do dnh alhoons teleport to you? when it woke up I teleported to the stairs but it didn't follow 13:46 Welcome to 3.7 13:46 <{Demo}> covetous + mind suck isnt balanced at all and is just fucking stupid and broken so no 13:47 <@riker> yes amateurhour 13:47 <@riker> but go punch it 13:47 <@riker> their AI is weird and they're weak 13:47 the player vanishes into a 1x1 closet and takes psychic possession of the boulders instead of pushing them 13:47 <@riker> demo they definitely tele around? 13:48 the player is paralyzed while smooth jazz plays quietly and the puzzle solves itself. then you have to clear the treasure zoo before the song ends, or else you have to watch the puzzles again 13:49 <{Demo}> they do? 13:51 <@riker> i could've sworn they've been funky with me like that 13:52 ah I just two hit it 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:22097 13:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:55 "The invisible Geryon rises up, through the ceiling!" 13:55 stay here! 13:56 EPI for variants where monsters have their specific spellcasting lists: demon lords can cast cursed gain level when their health gets low. :P 13:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:60279 13:57 that's better 13:58 LarienTelrunya: I’m implementing spellcasting lists right now... 13:58 :thinking: 13:58 heh, so splice will have that too? didn't expect that 13:58 I don't think "cursed gain level" is something that can be "cast"... 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law), 6737 points, T:5862, killed by a kobold lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Tommo (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 532 points, T:248, killed by a wand 13:59 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 13:59 ...yet :D 13:59 <@riker> just let them cast wish 13:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +3 Godhands", on T:10029 13:59 <@riker> call it good 13:59 <{Demo}> a spell where you rise through the ceiling? 13:59 @riker: slex monsters can cast wishing :P 13:59 <@riker> there you go 13:59 @riker That’s actually a thing in Splice. Efreeti do it. 13:59 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59 [hdf-eu] [spl] aoei (Pir Vam Nbn Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1164 13:59 <@riker> farmable? 13:59 also slex has a player spell named bubbling hole, which is targetted at a monster and causes it to rise through the ceiling 14:00 Not farmable unless you try reaaaaaaaaaally hard, and they only appear in the planes. 14:00 <@riker> rip 14:00 <@luxidream> are there more plans for the new planes 14:00 goddammit why didn't I make killing the rat king a trophy in slex, he actually spawned in my game 14:01 @luxidream Make the second air and second earth less boring 14:01 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:02 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:02 <{Demo}> how long are the spl planes? 14:02 7 levels, plus astral 14:02 <{Demo}> jesus 14:02 <@luxidream> yeah so you need 7 scrolls of gold detection 14:02 I died in them recently 14:03 While doing it with no portal detection, because farming scrolls is boring 14:03 <@luxidream> there's earth 2, air 2 but dark, and fire 2 which has shops but you don't have time to get anything 14:03 <@luxidream> write them, they are cheap 14:04 <{Demo}> don't have time? 14:04 amulets to be, places to ascend 14:04 <{Demo}> putting shops in the planes is funny, as like an insult somehow 14:04 I was speeding through the endgame since it was a day before junethack, and so I attempted the planes with basically no resources and no portal detection. 14:05 I think cthulhu is awake, if I blind myself and kite around is that enough? 14:05 I got to fire, and then somehow didn’t have fire resistance, got bogged down getting it, then Sloth tore me to pieces 14:05 <{Demo}> fuck, there's sins? 14:05 it might not be cthulhu, it's just a 5 on warning 14:05 <@luxidream> yeah they're pretty manageable though 14:05 <{Demo}> wiki page for spl sins implementation? 14:05 <@luxidream> from my experience at least 14:05 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sin 14:06 oh it's just a kraken, nvm ignore 14:06 Oh wait, no it was Gluttony who ate me 14:07 <@riker> amaterhour: don't melee him, just walk away quickly, and it may not be him anyway 14:07 <@riker> krakens are 5 as well I think 14:07 <@riker> if you don't actually have warning and there's a 5 anyway that's him though 14:08 <{Demo}> wait you don't even get sins from sinning? 14:08 <{Demo}> or rather breaking conducts 14:08 ^ YANI 14:08 <{Demo}> that's not even a yani 14:09 <{Demo}> that's how the original patch works 14:09 I didn’t go with the original patch. A random one appears in each of the seven planes. 14:10 <{Demo}> yeah I know they have been put somewhere else 14:11 <{Demo}> think I'm gonna finish soko and maybe die trying and pivot to nh4 14:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:9969 14:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) was given Giantslayer, on T:10797 14:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) averted death, on T:10906 14:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) averted death, on T:10906 14:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 187693 points, T:10906, killed by brainlessness 14:15 jesus how long is this neutral quest 14:16 is the whole lethe patch in it 14:17 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Val Ang Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6369 14:20 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by NeroOneTrueKing! 14:22 <@luxidream> oh AntiGulp 14:23 <@luxidream> ardub just had an ascension recorded as permadeaf fumbling permahallu on scoreboard 14:23 ????????? 14:23 <@luxidream> looks like they didn't have any conducts though 14:24 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Val Ang Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:7001 14:24 Well that’s not good. 14:25 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Val Ang Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7082 14:27 bhaak: next year, add to the 'rules for variant developers' that all achievement-based xlogfile things must be thoroughly tested. 14:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of slow digestion", on T:47601 14:28 <@riker> !lastgame NeroOneTrueKing 14:28 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NeroOneTrueKing/dnethack/dumplog/1591585984.dnh.txt 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 545 points, T:1425, killed by a gnome lord 14:34 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 14:35 [hdf-us] [gh] Tommo (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 260 points, T:377, killed by a gnomish mummy 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh4] test run (Demo) (Pri Hum Mal Law), 9582 points, T:2074, escaped 14:37 <{Demo}> lets see if that tracks 14:38 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1883 points, T:1885, killed by a gnome 14:39 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Gno Fem Neu), 566 points, T:2026, killed by a rothe 14:39 was this lethe thing just a dead end for loot? 14:39 <@Sig> Amateurhour: it skips the indoor levels but I think that’s the only ones. 14:40 the what now? 14:41 <@riker> which lethe thing 14:41 <@riker> ah you made it to the end 14:41 I'm in dnethack, looking at the neutral quest 14:41 <@riker> are you there rn? 14:42 <@riker> yeah looks like it 14:42 <@riker> jump down the holes at the end of the river 14:42 <@riker> cthulhu is at the very end of the branch, which you haven't reached 14:42 oh 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 225 points, T:962, killed by a small mimic 14:42 <@riker> these you can mostly just dig down 14:42 <@riker> there is some random loot & some useful glyphs if you want them 14:43 there's still more?! 14:43 lmao how long is this 14:43 <@riker> can you hit ctrl-x for a moment? want to see your insight 14:43 <@riker> ctrl-x and then how you feel 14:43 I have an effigy in my bag 14:43 <@riker> ok, 1. fix yo san, start blessing & quaffing sleeping if you see them. restore ability works too 14:43 does the spell work? 14:43 <@riker> effigy will cure half the lost, sleeping is 5/15 (uncursed/blessed) and restore ability is like 15/25 14:43 <@riker> no it does not 14:44 <@riker> also, you may find it worth wandering around here to see if you see any funky peaceful dudes 14:44 <@riker> specifically look for a red X or a green X 14:44 I've not been picking up sleeping, I'll start doing that then 14:44 <@riker> there's 4 dark levels with the exits in the form of holes, this is the first 14:44 <@riker> they each have these dudes 14:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Random Number God, on T:29589 14:45 <@riker> and I have no clue if you can even see them, but it looks like you can see some 14:45 <@riker> note: do not melee any of the peaceful dudes here 14:45 what are they? 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Tommo (Arc Dwa Fem Neu), 182 points, T:581, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse 14:45 <@riker> https://paste.ee/p/KWtnu 14:45 <@Sig> You can give them artifacts and they’ll give you bonuses 14:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:45 <@riker> donate an artifact to them (floor artis or nameable ones mostly) for the bonus listed in the pastebin 14:45 <@riker> the most useful ones in any situation are bestial dervish (red X), +30% max hp at al times 14:46 <@riker> and ethereal dervish (green X), +3 speed at all times 14:46 <@riker> the 3rd key is also on the 3rd dark level here 14:46 EPI: donating artifacts guarantees that the artifacts will show up in the hands of monsters on Astral 14:46 <@riker> do you have any elven daggers/broadswords, or a long sword, or a mattock? 14:46 nope 14:47 <@riker> then you can just keep digging down 14:47 <@riker> (unless you have a useless arti you don't want) 14:47 what sort of artifacts count? I think I have some kind of artifact scroll 14:47 <@riker> marauder's map? 14:47 <@riker> that will count if you want to toss it away 14:47 <@riker> personally I find it useful but if you don't care about it then go for it 14:47 idk its identified name, but 'parchment scroll' 14:48 <@riker> yeah, tha'ts marauder's map 14:48 <@riker> i'm amused your'e not using it 14:48 <@riker> it.. detects artifacts 14:48 it does what now 14:48 lol 14:48 * amateurhour facepalms 14:48 <@riker> #invoke for object detection and artifact detection 14:48 <@riker> it shows all objs on the level like a pot of the BUC, and then shows if any artifacts are on it specifically 14:48 I assumed as it was a scroll that using it would consume it 14:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible incubus, on T:29774 14:49 <@riker> nah, lol 14:49 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in seven variants" unlocked by Demo! 14:49 oh my days 14:49 <@riker> i probably wouldn't toss the map away 14:49 I should have brought some of those naff artifacts that are guaranteed 14:49 like werebane or whatever 14:49 <@riker> you could always branchport back if you care enough 14:50 <@riker> those are the ones that DON"T count :) 14:50 oh 14:50 <@riker> werebuster i think you mean, the -2 blessed long sword one from chaos1? 14:50 lol 14:50 yeah 14:50 <@riker> anything guaranteed doesn't count mostly 14:50 <@riker> the alignment keys can't be tossed either 14:50 gah 14:50 <@riker> any god gifts you do'nt want can be tossed but will be +1 anger 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh4] a_event=256 (Demo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8849 points, T:1100, killed by a falling object 14:51 <@riker> well this is depths 15-18, remember that 14:51 <@riker> lol demo nice try 14:51 <{Demo}> ah damn it replaces it in livelog lol 14:51 <{Demo}> would be really funny if it worked 14:51 if you controlled level teleport can you specify "depths 15" or whatever? 14:51 <@riker> no, but the silver key (arti at the end) does branchporting 14:52 <@riker> so like, branchport out and go find some cool stuff (like go kill an elf for sting/orcrist) and come back 14:52 right, get the key then come back for the buffs 14:53 [hdf-eu] [spl] aoei (Pir Vam Nbn Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3681 14:54 <@riker> amateurhour: yeah depths 18 should have another alhoon btw 14:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13188 14:54 <@riker> you'll need opening/striking to kill its drawbridge 14:54 <@riker> no book, 3rd key of neu though 14:54 ah ffs 14:54 <@riker> you can dig down here, or just find the holes 14:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:54 left them in magic chest 14:54 <@riker> force bolt? 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] RossinK (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:24527 14:55 <@riker> these levels have upstairs, so if you really need you can always find it -> go back up and loot the alhoon level chest 14:55 <@riker> (no down, but yes up) 14:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Roo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed SkydiveMike's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:1847 14:56 <@microlance> what is the point of this 10 key chest thing 14:56 forgotten force bolt 14:56 <@microlance> stash? 14:56 yeah it's a stash that's connected via the chests 14:56 <@microlance> oh 14:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:152137 14:56 when a lock is opened the chest gets stuck to the ground 14:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dwa Mal Law), 112 points, T:250, killed by an electric shock 14:57 <@riker> well there goes a streak, to an 11 dmg box trap 14:57 rip :( 14:57 <@riker> lmao 14:57 <@riker> good way to end it, pure RNG bs 14:57 where do the up stairs lead, back to lethe? 14:57 <@riker> yeah, just to the level above 14:57 <@riker> randomly placed on the level 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 948 points, T:986, killed by an invisible Grey-elf 15:00 <@microlance> runed candle was a good find right? 15:00 yeah 15:00 <@riker> lmao 15:00 <@riker> apply it and invoke it -> option a, for a wish 15:01 <@riker> option b on the menu is a tame pet, option c is a demon lord 15:01 <@microlance> might wish for some reflection or mr before the quest then 15:01 <@microlance> they do like spamming wands those ogres and trolls 15:03 <@microlance> hmm, mr gloves maybe. not like im gonna be casting any spells anyways 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:44115 15:04 <{Demo}> how do i make nh4 say AC instead of def? cant find the option 15:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given the Armor of Khazad-dum, on T:2238 15:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2698 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh343] RossinK (Val Dwa Fem Law), 128780 points, T:24960, killed by a captain 15:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 orihalcyon gauntlets", on T:13495 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 set of crow talons named fire brand", on T:3267 15:14 [hdf-us] [dyn] Mann (RossinK) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 221 points, T:1151, killed by a fox 15:15 [hdf-us] [slshm] Lawman0 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3609 points, T:2642, killed by a plains centaur 15:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:60557 15:18 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in four variants" unlocked by RossinK! 15:18 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by RossinK! 15:18 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by RossinK! 15:18 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in three variants" unlocked by RossinK! 15:18 Junethack: New clan britehack created! https://junethack.net/clan/britehack 15:18 Junethack: New user jmpeax registered! https://junethack.net/user/jmpeax 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:13312 15:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Roo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2719 15:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a salamander, on T:30752 15:28 riker does cthulhu have the silver key? :S 15:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:21540 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:44348 15:31 <{Demo}> no it is in one of the random spots he can be in 15:31 <{Demo}> on one of the altars that he isnt on 15:31 ah right, thanks 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:11837 15:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) wished for "Blessed Greased +3 Orange Dragon Scale Mail", on T:12681 15:33 [hdf-us] [slex] serhei (Cha Esp Fem Cha) averted death, on T:1880 15:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:49047 15:35 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had a an axe bestowed upon her by Set, on T:14674 15:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:49066 15:37 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ill Fem Cha), 4536 points, T:1214, killed by a plague poppy 15:37 lost my robe to a monster with grabby hands 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Roo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1641 points, T:2992, killed by a watchman 15:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:14599 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 10204 points, T:12188, killed by qt the human mummy 15:40 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh4] ascenderman (Demo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 25925 points, T:2299, killed by a jaguar 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Smut, his faithful kitten, on T:783 15:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) was given Werebane, on T:14452 15:47 Junethack: New user jenseits registered! https://junethack.net/user/jenseits 15:47 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by Roo! 15:47 Junethack: New user mlucient registered! https://junethack.net/user/mlucient 15:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) was given the Yoichi no yumi, on T:15616 15:48 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 15:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:15315 15:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Tommo (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 30479 points, T:3149, killed by a magic missile 15:50 is there any way to check if the first neutral key monster has already spawned? 15:51 <@microlance> hmm, thoth amon didnt even get to hit me, hes weaker then his underlings 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2224 points, T:2962, killed by a coyote 15:53 <@microlance> i looked up the arti now and i can only say its a perfect example of balance. 15:53 <@microlance> Grants half spell damage, magic resistance, reflection and life drain resistance when carried Invoke to remove curse 15:54 <@microlance> and no ogres or trolls were shooting wands at me so i wasted a wish on a pair of MR gloves and got reflection in soko 😦 15:55 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in four variants" unlocked by Tommo! 15:56 lol :P 15:56 [hdf-us] [fh] Tommo (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the priest of Muad, the former Aspirant, on T:596 15:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:24398 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed lacca the human mummy, and former Dresser, on T:14053 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed SkydiveMike's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:1777 15:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law), 153294 points, T:15853, killed by a shade, while praying 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Rhizotomist, on T:2255 16:02 @luxidream I basically stole the ADOM system and adapted it for NetHack when I was tired over being screwed over by the RNG one times too many 16:03 Sacrifice changes was also intended as a way to make sacrificing in general less annoying, especially combined with create monster changes 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3023 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3195 points, T:3285, poisoned by a rotted snake corpse, while praying 16:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1275 16:07 <@microlance> the adom system is literally getting 1-3 precrowns in a couple of minutes by becoming chaotic or lawful and then overpraying to piss your god off and then convert and rake in the artis because neutral and other god loves you 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2711 16:09 <@microlance> are unicorns extra rare in dnethack or? 16:10 <@microlance> do i have to wait for nighthorn to get myself one of those horns 16:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible cultist, on T:32458 16:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:3222 16:11 took me ages to get one 16:12 <@microlance> alright, its painful to start hallucinating or become blind forever 16:13 <@microlance> ill kill the first unicorn i see, i wont care about color 16:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3451 16:14 [hdf-us] [fh] Tommo (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 37197 points, T:1404, killed by a human zombie 16:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Mon Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of plastic riding boots on an altar, on T:3455 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:44866 16:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) was given Magicbane, on T:3708 16:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:21 <@Sig> I usually find one by the time I hit the big room. This run I had to hunt forever though 16:22 <@microlance> a helm called war hat. does it give some melee bonus or something? 16:22 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:22 <@microlance> or my MR gloves called fighting gloves 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu), 11769 points, T:4752, killed by a crow 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:44981 16:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:47557 16:28 [hdf-eu] [spl] aoei (Pir Vam Nbn Cha), 8700 points, T:6321, killed by a leocrotta 16:29 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:29 <@microlance> oh yeah, i just summoned a white one with a wand 16:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:47563 16:31 [hdf-eu] [slshm] aoei (Tou Dop Fem Neu), 247 points, T:131, killed by a jackal 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:45060 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:15779 16:34 <@microlance> iam a human still i got a demon summoned when i sacced a hobbit. when did humans and hobbits become the same race 16:34 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in seven variants" unlocked by aoei! 16:35 [hdf-eu] [slex] aoei (Mil Sok Mal Law), 210 points, T:183, killed by a short blade 16:35 <@microlance> atleast this demon seems like a real pain in the ass, so maybe i should be happy. hes some sort of screaming nymph 16:35 <@microlance> that polymorphs 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:16200 16:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Rog Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1007 16:42 <@Sig> Hobbits are human enough. Same is true for Uruk-hai and Deep Ones, which are apparently part human. 16:43 <@microlance> luckily these demons dont follow you 16:43 <@microlance> it just stands there shrieking by the altar 16:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:61147 16:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Mon Hum Fem Law), 4104 points, T:4494, quit 16:46 [hdf-eu] [slshm] aoei (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2908 points, T:2023, killed by a housecat 16:46 <@Sig> I think summoned demons lose covetousness, though I might be thinking of something else. 16:49 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 16:50 <@microlance> yep got a warning when i was about to eat a deepone. but shouldnt gnomes also be a close relation 16:50 <@microlance> or are they made of earth like dwarves 16:51 [hdf-us] [slex] serhei (Cha Esp Fem Cha), 14809 points, T:3517, killed by a monster (troll) 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:55368 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:55369 16:52 <@microlance> i got an hamsa ward 16:52 <@riker> they dont lost covetous but they stop warping to gyou 16:53 <@microlance> how do i use it? 16:53 <@riker> war hat blocks acid rain 16:53 <@riker> Hamsa is mostly useless 16:53 <@riker> hit ctrl w or #ward to use them 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:55493 16:53 <@riker> *acid rain monster spell 16:53 <@riker> you can hit ? after that to show what it wards vs. 16:53 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eight variants" unlocked by aoei! 16:54 <@riker> hamsa is e and grants invis when fully reinforced and standing there 16:54 <@microlance> im trying to crown now. should be soon. i dont know if i should keep using my twohander or switch over to stormbringer tho 16:54 <@riker> did you chat to the quest leader post-quest? 16:54 <@microlance> yes 16:54 <@riker> max luck? 16:54 <@microlance> once atleast 16:54 <@microlance> you are very lucky 16:54 <@riker> you just need the QA ID msg 16:54 <@riker> nope 16:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the warg, on T:35413 16:54 <@riker> extremely lucky 16:55 <@riker> 11+ luck for crowning 16:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35414 16:55 <@microlance> ive lost my luckstone somewhere but the ahriman is one too i suppose 16:55 <@riker> it is not 16:56 <@microlance> then i gotta try find my luckstone again 16:56 <@riker> it is a ruby 16:56 <@microlance> but i have no idea where it can have gone. a nymph maybe? 16:56 <@riker> monkey or gug as well 16:56 <@microlance> ive also lost my stethoscope 16:58 <@microlance> but ive got a unicorn horn atleast, even though its stained after i tried clearing pot of blindness. but i hope i only made so it blinds those it hits 16:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +3 cloak of protection", on T:16938 17:00 <@riker> blindness should probably blank not poison the horn 17:00 <@riker> ah well 17:01 <@microlance> i have a ring that gives very fast. so should i use my crystal plate mail or my blue dsm? 17:01 <@microlance> both are +4 17:02 been trying to retrace my steps as I saw a footprint somewhere a while ago 17:02 which the wiki seems to suggest means Center of All has spawned and is levelporting around 17:02 but I've been back to almost everywhere and not found them yet 17:02 <@microlance> the crystal plate mail makes it so i can read my hippie tshirt and get nothing from it 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2596 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:2596 17:04 <@microlance> oh my tshirt is a unicorn horn with my crystal plate 17:05 <@microlance> and ive been crying about hallu and blindness 17:05 can they be on literally any floor? :( 17:06 [hdf-eu] [slex] aoei (Pri Hax Fem Cha), 6162 points, T:1642, killed by a monster (invisible watch captain) 17:06 <@riker> microlance: probably CPM with the alacrity ring 17:06 <@riker> amateurhour: yes 17:06 <@riker> don't bother, honestly 17:06 fml 17:07 I want the 9 keys achievement 17:07 :P 17:07 <@riker> he'll appear on astral if he's not dead already 17:07 <{Demo}> well you're in luck 17:07 <{Demo}> that ^^ 17:07 <@riker> mainly because it's annoying to deal with that in jnh 17:07 <@riker> i think sig zapped CM once on the level where he spawns and got him though? lol 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:2735 17:09 [hdf-eu] [gh] aoei (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 189 points, T:344, killed by a fox 17:10 he already spawned for me before I got to that level I think, explains the footprint I'd found 17:10 <@riker> yeah the footprint is burned when he leaps away 17:10 <@riker> he'll stop leaping away now though 17:10 <@riker> once you've entered the Sum of All (last level of the outlands, with the argentum golems) he goes hostile & will stop zooping 17:10 oh 17:10 YASD 17:10 [hdf-us] [slex] serhei (Blo Esp Fem Cha), 5142 points, T:1691, quit 17:10 I'm sad 17:10 <@riker> :( 17:11 <@microlance> what a dank dwarf i killed, he was carrying around 420 stones 17:11 <@riker> they're idiots like that microlance 17:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2345498 points, T:56214, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 17:11 <@Sig> That wasn’t me, I’ve never actually taught the sum 17:11 <@riker> :( 17:11 <@riker> !lastgame amateurhour 17:11 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1589035969.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/dnethack/dumplog/1591554219.dnh.txt 17:11 <@Sig> Oh noooooooo 17:11 <@riker> sig: then it was som then 17:11 <@riker> i wonder if vlad 1 is bonesable 17:12 <@Sig> That would be the nuttiest bones 17:12 if it is then anyone getting those bones are in for a good time 17:12 <@riker> it is not, damn 17:12 <@riker> (just wiztested and it didn't prompt to leave any) 17:12 <@Sig> Heart of Ahriman starting from the mines would be nuts. 17:12 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in nine variants" unlocked by aoei! 17:12 <@riker> he was the monk, microlance is a barb 17:13 premium heart, grandmaster's robe, tshirt 17:13 would be good loot 17:13 <@riker> everything else there except the crystals are useable 17:13 <@riker> they still can't be picked up unless you killed the dudes in your game 17:14 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:14 that vlad's drawbridge 17:14 why 17:14 :( 17:15 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 17:15 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest47099 17:15 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 17:15 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in two variants" unlocked by amateurhour! 17:15 [hdf-eu] [gh] aoei (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1319 points, T:1013, zombified by a gnomish zombie 17:16 <{Demo}> you only splat once to that before you learn to revere and FEAR drawbridges + striking, but usually as a low level incantifier trying to break in with force bolt, not as a lvl 30 17:17 man that feels bad 17:18 -!- Guest47099 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:18 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 17:18 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (adams.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 17:18 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:55595 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:55596 17:21 [hdf-us] [dyn] Ralak (Lawman0) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1934 points, T:2470, killed by a kitten 17:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kokushu, on T:26001 17:23 -!- cebolla has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:24 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in ten variants" unlocked by aoei! 17:25 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in four variants" unlocked by Lawman0! 17:25 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 17:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 cloak of protection", on T:26611 17:35 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 17:35 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest8371 17:35 -!- Guest8371 has quit [Killed (tolkien.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 17:35 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 17:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 helm of telepathy", on T:26615 17:36 [hdf-eu] [dyn] Olwyn (elenmirie) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 60707 points, T:41683, crushed to death by a falling drawbridge 17:40 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pri Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2167 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Agrius (Val Dwa Fem Law), 332 points, T:1318, killed by a giant ant, while sleeping 17:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] Tommo (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:1496 17:41 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 17:42 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:42 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 17:43 <{Demo}> 2a third time in a row 17:43 <{Demo}> but not flipped so eh 17:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:26628 17:44 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in five variants" unlocked by elenmirie! 17:44 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in six variants" unlocked by elenmirie! 17:44 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in four variants" unlocked by elenmirie! 17:45 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in three variants" unlocked by Agrius! 17:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 17:45 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest76576 17:45 -!- Guest76576 has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 17:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 17:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Tommo (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1793 17:54 Junethack: New user danirijeka registered! https://junethack.net/user/danirijeka 17:56 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pri Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Adept, on T:4175 17:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Daimyo, on T:27131 17:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:61949 17:59 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Tommo (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1526 points, T:2406, killed by an invisible soldier ant 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6411 points, T:7690, killed by a soldier ant 18:05 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HarmathZsolt (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6537 18:07 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 18:10 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:13 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in five variants" unlocked by Tommo! 18:13 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 18:14 <@microlance> what am i supposed to do in this elf infested forest 18:18 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 18:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Tommo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 118 points, T:523, killed by a small mimic 18:23 <@microlance> is castle on d14 here in dnethack or is it just something really similiar to one 18:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] Lawman0 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1880 points, T:1276, killed by a kitten 18:25 <@riker> define elf infested forest 18:26 <@riker> 2 shops,5 barracks, dark forest on either side? 18:26 <@riker> yea that's neu branch 18:26 <@riker> portal somewhere on the outside 18:27 <@microlance> it had a downstairs with the barracks. 18:27 <@microlance> and then upstairs portals and elfs everywhere 18:27 <@riker> elves are random spawns 18:27 <@riker> the portal is the neu quest 18:28 <@microlance> okay 18:29 <@microlance> i will have to kill the shopkeepers down here with barracks 18:29 <@microlance> as i have no mummy cloaks 18:29 <@microlance> i oneshotted a master mind flayer here too, that was beautiful 18:29 <@riker> check the services for the wep one 18:29 <@riker> may offer poisoning 18:29 <@microlance> alright 18:29 <@riker> filth is worthwhile 18:30 <@riker> rest aren't really 18:30 <@microlance> i like how my mithril mattock is still the best pickaxe ive found 18:30 <@riker> it's lighter than a pick I think 18:31 <@microlance> yep 18:31 <@microlance> weighs 60 18:31 <@riker> bone pickaxes are the best 18:31 <@microlance> yeah 18:31 <@microlance> but they seem rare here 18:31 <@riker> I've found a couple 18:32 <@microlance> im used to evilhack, there a bone pickaxe is almost guaranteed 18:32 <@riker> lol 18:32 <@riker> dnh tones down funky materialed spawns a bit 18:33 <@microlance> ive found some cool silver and mithril things, but nothing compares to the first gift 18:33 <@riker> nothing will 18:37 <@microlance> what potion silvers the unihorn? 18:38 <@microlance> starlight? 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] taq74115 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 387 points, T:1172, killed by a dwarf 18:39 <@riker> ye 18:39 <@riker> temporary 18:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:2994 18:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:3730 18:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3739 18:43 <@microlance> he only enchants 18:43 <@microlance> and i assume my weapon will explode if i do it 18:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3769 18:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given the Armor of Khazad-dum, on T:3475 18:49 <@microlance> lol 18:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 427974 points, T:22387, choked on a black pudding corpse 18:49 doh 18:50 <{Demo}> play ndnh if u don't wanna deal with dying that way 18:50 <@microlance> im gonna go for one more barb, orc this time 18:51 <{Demo}> in ndnh you cannot die from eating too much, you just yak 18:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1991 points, T:4153, killed by a white unicorn 18:51 <@microlance> so magical breathing 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7 points, T:281, killed by a black pudding 18:52 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in six variants" unlocked by microlance! 18:52 Junethack: Tariru ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.6 on nethack.alt.org! 18:53 <{Demo}> no, not magical breathing, but the same effect as if you overate while having it 18:53 <{Demo}> because I think a person healthy enough to slay dragons isn't gonna die if they eat too much, probably just throw up 18:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] Lawman0 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 338 points, T:977, killed by an acidic corpse 18:55 [hdf-eu] [sp] aoei (Arc Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "xx", on T:3057 18:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3920 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1401 points, T:1430, killed by qt the human mummy 18:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HarmathZsolt (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:12640 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 36 points, T:365, killed by a newt, while reading a book 18:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HarmathZsolt (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12657 18:59 [hdf-eu] [sp] aoei (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 4303 points, T:3539, killed by a bolt of cold 19:01 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eleven variants" unlocked by aoei! 19:02 <@microlance> pretty cool weapon i found in a shop a moon axe, it does great dmg 19:02 <@riker> not as good as a 2x damage 2handed sword 19:02 <@riker> but yeah moon axes are pretty sick 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 686 points, T:1356, killed by a gnome 19:03 <@microlance> nah, but i bought it and gonna use it until i get the sword 19:03 <@microlance> i did start with a 2h sword so i should get it again 19:03 <@microlance> the battle axe sucks in comparision 19:04 <@riker> !opm 19:04 <@riker> !pom 19:04 @riker: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 10 days. 19:04 <@riker> 2d10 isn't bad at all yeah 19:05 <@microlance> i couldnt wear a small orcish helm, but i can wear the gnomish hats 19:05 <@riker> cloth i believe 19:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 speed boots", on T:27373 19:06 <@riker> they're a hat not a helm in the sense that they can fit +- one size i think 19:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1995 19:06 <@riker> gnomish hats are also 100% useless never bother 19:07 <{Demo}> that's not true 19:07 <{Demo}> not if they have an enchant 19:07 <{Demo}> especially as an incant that can sniff out a highly enchanted one 19:08 <@riker> it's almost always worth using a dwarvish one instead 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 254 points, T:966, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food 19:10 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by ElanDeMain! 19:10 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by ElanDeMain! 19:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Mon Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed engagement ring", on T:22904 19:18 Junethack: New user lapis registered! https://junethack.net/user/lapis 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4202 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4238 19:23 <@microlance> lol, the priest died in because of zombie swarm. and then i converted the altar and a angel got summoned with a whole set of blessed items that were much better then mine 19:23 -!- drunkmonkey711 has joined #hardfought 19:24 <@riker> nice 19:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given Premium Heart, on T:6347 19:24 !players 19:24 drunkmonkey711: [hdf-us] dragonspeaker [dyn] Lawman0 [slshm] dgoddard [slshm] Tommo [evil] Snuff [evil] qt [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] Qwesti [nh370] taq74115 [nh370] arnibald [nh370] Demo [nh4] serhei [slex] ElanDeMain [un] post163 [spl] Sig [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing [dnh] phollenback [fh] k2 [xnh] | [hdf-eu] Muad [sp] mobileuser [evil] OhNoNotAgain [nh370] aoei [dnh] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4436 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4498 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:4508 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1395 19:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:28108 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Tommo (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 662 points, T:1136, killed by a giant ant 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 3433 points, T:2598, quit 19:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:2989 19:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed sickopsycho's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:17988 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:10 19:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law), 917 points, T:1314, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted watch captain 19:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:28329 19:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] Lawman0 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2234 points, T:2051, killed by something while blind 19:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was given Tobiume, on T:3671 19:36 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4920 points, T:6035, killed by a mumak 19:37 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in six variants" unlocked by Tommo! 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 29 points, T:84, killed by a bear trap 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 21 points, T:48, poisoned by a rotted elf corpse, while helpless 19:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] ElanDeMain (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 925 points, T:1362, killed by a little dog 19:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 bone gauntlets of power", on T:5449 19:42 <{Demo}> i accidentally fatfingered my whole inventory into my bag because of the clunky as fuck nh4 interface 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 878 points, T:646, killed by a gnome lord 19:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:28715 19:43 <{Demo}> mercy was shown 19:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Mon Swn Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:24234 19:43 <{Demo}> my wand of cancellation was just zerod and everything else survied 19:43 <{Demo}> i was ready to #quit 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 200 points, T:836, killed by a sewer rat 19:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law), 981 points, T:1784, killed by a rothe 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:605 19:48 [hdf-us] [slshm] Lawman0 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 676 points, T:1226, killed by a little dog 19:49 [hdf-us] [fh] Wizra (phollenback) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 58449 points, T:10656, killed by a giant zombie 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] taq74115 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1425 points, T:2910, killed by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 78 points, T:224, killed by a goblin 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:617 19:56 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by ElanDeMain! 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:617 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 35 points, T:309, killed by a jackal 20:00 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1177 20:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29246 20:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29248 20:00 [hdf-eu] [sp] Muad (Mon Dwa Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5971 20:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 gauntlets of power", on T:29261 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3721 20:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Mon Swn Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:24914 20:07 The elf-lord yells, "Someone help!" 20:07 <@riker> do not help him 20:07 is this supposed to be a battle cry? 20:07 <@riker> this is natural selection 20:07 it's the spl shouting code 20:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law), 922 points, T:1699, killed by a giant mimic 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh343] Tommo (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 4066 points, T:1759, killed by a gray unicorn 20:11 by the way, spl angel may be weak according to luxidream, but it sure is nice being one of the only creatures who can cross the castle moat at will 20:12 [hdf-us] [slex] serhei (Ast Esp Fem Cha), 14629 points, T:436, killed by a monster (died plant) 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4036 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4050 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4074 20:15 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in seven variants" unlocked by Tommo! 20:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Mon Swn Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:25414 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] taq74115 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 363 points, T:1473, killed by a giant bat 20:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:29830 20:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:29839 20:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2344 20:29 <@microlance> tobiume is one pretty cool weapon in dnet 20:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pri Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5608 20:30 [hdf-us] [spl] aosdictj (Val Ang Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:23655 20:31 <@microlance> you clear out thronerooms in seconds with it 20:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2922 20:32 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pri Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6124 20:34 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by scheijan! 20:34 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by scheijan! 20:34 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in one variant" unlocked by scheijan! 20:34 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by scheijan! 20:34 Junethack: scheijan ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.6 on nethack.alt.org! 20:36 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law), 3470 points, T:3323, killed by a fire ant 20:37 [hdf-us] [un] ElanDeMain (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:27339 20:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:30136 20:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:30137 20:40 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:42 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pri Gno Fem Neu), 6165 points, T:8014, killed by a gargoyle 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] Harliquinn (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 201 points, T:294, killed by a fox 20:45 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed historic unlit +5 gray dragon scale mail named nopoly by unpresto industries", on T:19744 20:49 Does splice change WoW behavior at all? 20:49 it's spork, and it didn't like my wishes 20:49 throne wish 20:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:62381 20:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:62382 20:51 well I'm playing splice :P 20:52 oh. i thought you were referring to my wish 20:52 apparently splice is what all the cool kids are playing this year 20:54 -!- cebolla has joined #hardfought 20:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:62408 20:56 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 20:57 is there anywhere on the wiki that describes splice techniques or am I relegated to asking AntiGulp? 20:57 I see I have a 'court of blades' technique but no idea what it does 20:58 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 20:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 20:58 well then 20:58 aosdict: Press backslash 20:58 -!- tommo_ has joined #hardfought 20:58 I implemented lookup for techniques 20:59 do you have some way of being pinged when you're not in the channel? that was extremely convenient timing 20:59 I just glance at the irclog a lot 21:00 I really gotta take up K2’s offer... 21:00 are you like... tail -f'ing the web irc log? 21:01 tail f'ing is still banned in some states 21:01 Glance at the log -> refresh -> scroll to bottom -> skim 21:01 I read quick 21:02 [hdf-us] [un] Tommo (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 466 points, T:412, killed by an arrow 21:02 Also this time was just luck, just finished playing family games 21:03 [hdf-us] [spl] aosdictj (Val Ang Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed the magic mirror of merlin", on T:24036 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1138 points, T:3247, killed by a manes 21:06 so far my take on the 3.7 "are you waiting to get hit" thing is it's helped me more than it's been annoying 21:06 ^ 21:06 granted, I haven't gone nurse dancing yet 21:06 so I can see making it an option 21:07 but I don't think it's a straight up bad feature 21:07 Pretty much 100% agree 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] Harliquinn (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1215 points, T:1605, killed by a kitten 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Roo's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4482 21:07 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3083 points, T:3400, killed by a white unicorn 21:08 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 21:09 -!- tommo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:62484 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 317 points, T:1367, killed by a hobgoblin 21:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:62487 21:11 Something is engraved here on the headstone. You read: "I slammed with the best, now I jam at rest.". You see here a chest. 21:12 splicehack throwing down some mad rhymes here 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] taq74115 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 612 points, T:2013, killed by a little dog, while fainted from lack of food 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 451 points, T:1917, killed by a rabid rat 21:17 [hdf-eu] [sp] Muad (Mon Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:7917 21:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 119802 points, T:17549, killed by a deep one, while helpless 21:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2710 21:19 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Ill Fem Law), 10389 points, T:2023, killed by a monster (sylph), while praying unsuccessfully 21:23 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in four variants" unlocked by dgoddard! 21:23 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in four variants" unlocked by dgoddard! 21:24 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 21:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] aoei (Pri Clk Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:17377 21:25 [hdf-us] [spl] aosdictj (Val Ang Fem Law) killed Zuggotomoy, on T:24521 21:26 AntiGulp: a monster is cooking my lizard corpse for me, to the point where it's completely carbonized. Is it still good for curing stoning? 21:26 Yeah, it’s still good 21:27 * AntiGulp really, REALLY has to update the wiki 21:28 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:3920 21:32 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3174 21:35 <{Demo}> how do I cook? 21:35 <{Demo}> what even is that sentence 21:35 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Bar Ill Fem Law), 1906 points, T:1503, killed by a monster (Ms. Siirt, the shopkeeper) 21:36 Use #cook while on a furnace. 21:36 <{Demo}> ah 21:36 <{Demo}> does cooked food last longer? 21:36 Lasts longer, more nutritious, increased chance of intrinsic gain. Overcooking lowers those. 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1771 points, T:3248, killed by a werejackal 21:37 [hdf-us] [un] Cuchullain (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:9561 21:38 hmm 21:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] aoei (Pri Clk Fem Neu), 198347 points, T:18022, killed by a captain zombie 21:38 noooo i was doing so well 21:38 damn it 21:39 cleared the valley, but not sure what I want to do now 21:39 Oh no! 21:39 RIP 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 104202 points, T:31866, quit 21:39 didn't realise the captain zombie could deal that much damage that fast 21:39 shoulda backed up sooner 21:39 had a polearm 21:39 the optimal choice is the boring consolidate my 5-6 stashes, then polypile for some magic items and armor 21:39 consolidating will suck without teleport control 21:41 I pretty much never polypile 21:41 Probably should more tbh 21:41 i do it with rings sometimes 21:41 not much else 21:41 magical tools for magic markers 21:42 -!- Glasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:42 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by aoei! 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1175 21:42 I think there's a fair amount more loot in spl than vanilla 21:43 I don't usually have 5 big stashes by the time I'm clearing the valley 21:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3534 21:43 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 21:44 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:44 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:45 [hdf-us] [un] Tommo (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 635 points, T:1126, killed by a giant bat 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:56922 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2419 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 Gauntlets of power", on T:2377 21:51 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eight variants" unlocked by Tommo! 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 speed boots", on T:2383 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 646 points, T:1825, killed by a giant mimic 21:58 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4814 22:01 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6664 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 867 points, T:2040, killed by a bolt of cold 22:04 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 22:05 aosdict: fire doesn't seem to be evaporating the pools in mines end 22:07 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:07 i mean it says it's evaporating, and it makes fog clouds, but not able to get rid of the pool 22:07 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:7153 22:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] tr0pic (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:20578 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a boulder 22:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 24141 points, T:7300, killed by a death ray 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2826 22:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] tr0pic (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Oona, on T:20764 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3032 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:3099 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3107 22:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] tr0pic (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Axus, on T:21118 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4620 points, T:6585, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 22:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kuge, on T:31403 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:57243 22:26 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 1034 points, T:1640, killed by a rothe, while paralyzed by a monster 22:27 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 65 points, T:143, killed by an arrow 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3209 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an arrow on an altar, on T:3219 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:42535 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:57307 22:31 -!- drunkmonkey711 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:42771 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 2714 points, T:3447, quit 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:42774 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 20 points, T:53, killed by a jackal, while praying 22:35 AntiGulp: if a hunger hulk just reminds me of food, is that actually doing anything? 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:57334 22:35 aosdict: Yeah, you just got hungrier. 22:36 hunger gaze... interesting 22:37 also do moonstones ever stop emitting light? 22:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] spicycat (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:29178 22:38 is it a radius-4 light source forever because I rubbed it at full moon? 22:39 <@riker> rad 4? damn 22:40 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2214 22:40 @riker ikr? 22:41 <@riker> that's pretty sweet 22:41 no more lamps for me! 22:41 had to defeat Drauglir for it 22:41 aosdict: Yeah, light emitting depends on PoM. 22:41 <@riker> how bad was he? 22:41 AntiGulp: so will it decrease as the moon wanes? 22:41 does it ever turn off 22:42 That was the intention, but upon reflection, I’m not sure if I coded it that way. 22:42 @riker not bad with +7 gungnir missiles 22:42 You can rub it again to turn the light off. 22:42 <@riker> lol 22:42 oh wow gungnir can be invoked for lightning bolt 22:42 I totally haven't been using that 22:42 Yeah, gungnir hella broken in 0.7.1 22:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11432 22:43 mass buc id'ing is tedious pls buff 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 235 points, T:1479, killed by a kitten, while sleeping 22:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:31531 22:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class U, on T:31531 22:45 aosdict: Buff how? 22:46 port the nh4/xnh feature of dropping a bag on an altar 22:46 buc-iding all contents 22:46 s/bag/container/ 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:57448 22:46 -!- drunkmonkey711 has joined #hardfought 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:6, killed by a djinni 22:46 evilhack has that too. players like it 22:47 Ah. Yeah, that does seem like a good QOL change. 22:47 I noticed the inventory slots/weight display in xnh/evil. I love it and never want to play without it. 22:47 unnethack added that recently as well 22:47 did you know that when the trinity of xnh, splice and evilhack agree on something, vanilla is compelled to add it 22:47 heh 22:48 AntiGulp: ah, so the lack of that is not an intentional design choice 22:48 That’s why vanilla has obj materials :^) 22:48 playing without it is really annoying 22:48 aosdict: I actually stole it. It’s in my dev branch. 22:49 K2: would you describe evilhack as lawful evil or more of a neutral evil 22:50 hey AntiGulp...i've noticed something in splicehack. Whenever I get my final attributes, it always says "You have gone 0 turns without praying", regardless if i've prayed recently or not. 22:50 shadowcat: Sounds like a bug! Good catch! 22:50 Added to my list of things to fix. 22:51 thanks! 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:5, killed by a djinni 22:51 aosdict hmm 22:51 lemme think 22:51 antigulp loads the etherpad and gets splashed by the blue wave of text 22:51 i think it leans more towards neutral evil 22:52 oh no 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:57549 22:53 hmmm, i forgot that bags of tricks are kinda like wands of cancellation 22:53 Oh god there’s so many aosdict notes 22:53 rip due to terrible mines end level, my white whale. i was trying to get the items out of the stupid water 22:53 AntiGulp: I'm also sitting on a couple bugs that I'm not disclosing because they're advantageous ;) 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:57567 22:53 >:O 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 707 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43395 22:54 will disclose... AFTER the tournament 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:43403 22:54 <{Demo}> i have some spl bugs too i think 22:54 <{Demo}> assuming monster flags arent fixed 22:54 <{Demo}> i dont remember them i just know i wrote them down somewhere 22:54 Today is not a good day for bugs 22:55 <{Demo}> they arent important bugs 22:55 * aosdict summons insects! 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:57581 22:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5174 22:56 bleah 22:56 aosdict look at my game real quick 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:32, killed by a kobold 22:57 <@riker> bleh i don't use your graphics so i can't k2 22:57 <@riker> :( 22:57 stairs surrounded by water! :P 22:57 <@riker> ah 22:57 <@riker> that's not ideal 22:58 sure, and in evilhack mines this can happen sometimes and i catch shit about ti even though its allowed/by design 22:58 but here it is in xnethack :P 22:58 is vanilla juib like that? 22:58 couldnt tell you 22:58 i dont think ive ever seen the stairs in a corner like this before on this map 22:59 mines stairs surrounded by water is very different from juib stairs surrounded by water 22:59 neg 22:59 you have a ton more resources by juib 22:59 <@riker> does juiblex use mazewalk with water? 22:59 it's not supposed to? but vanilla recently changed its level generation 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2806296 points, T:57611, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/arnibald/nethack/dumplog/1591367561.nh.html 23:00 <{Demo}> my xnh game I ascended earlier today's juib was walkable 23:00 it's not mazewalk, it's a different algo which is supposed to generate a maze by considering each 2x2 square independently (hint: this does not generate a maze) 23:01 <{Demo}> hey aos how does the cavern generation cellular automata work? 23:02 <@riker> aosdict: that's... not how mazes work? 23:02 {Demo}: initialize some n% of squares with fg, then basically do conway's game of life on it 23:02 <{Demo}> what 23:03 <{Demo}> and that leads to a connected thing? 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 23 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43807 23:03 @riker https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/sp_lev.c#L351 23:03 <@riker> how does that even consistenyly function? 23:03 <{Demo}> where is the code for it located? 23:03 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 23:04 {Demo}: ah no, there's some postprocessing for connecting up areas (this is why mkmap levels often have long straight 1-wide passages) 23:04 <@riker> looks like the func he linkde 23:04 <@riker> ah, ok aosdict, that makes more sense 23:04 hmm, my bohsplosion doesn't even seem to have been logged as a death, the game's just gone 23:04 @riker to be clear, to you I am speaking about the juiblex generation. to {Demo} I am speaking about the mkmap generation. 23:05 those are not the same thing 23:05 <@riker> whoops my bad 23:05 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 23:05 <@murgatroid99> In UnNetHack, is there a way to see what dragon types I have formally identified by seeing their breath attack? 23:05 <{Demo}> how does it connect what it creates? 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 440 points, T:1432, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 23:06 K2: do i still have an xnh game on the server? (spicycat) 23:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:13976 23:06 thought i was going to go install updates on my computer, but it's going to take an hour to download...so i'm back! 23:07 hmm https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spicycat/xnethack/dumplog/1590986263.xnh.txt 23:07 cebolla if you started and saved one, yes 23:07 <@riker> well that's not good 23:07 i thought the bohsplosion killed me, but i think it killed the game instead? 23:07 <@riker> hey k2 what's the paniclog for xnh say? 23:08 it says 'I love lamp' 23:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:6106 23:08 <@riker> hm that's a bad crash k2 :) 23:08 cebolla: then please tell me you may have had a game crash 23:08 * aosdict suspects the livelogging for blowing up boh code 23:08 <@riker> k2: they thought it died normally I think 23:09 <@riker> wb shadowcat! 23:09 cebolla which server? 23:09 yeah, at first i said "rip", but then the bot didn't say i died, so i became suspicious 23:09 US server 23:09 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spicycat/xnethack/dumplog/1590986263.xnh.txt 23:09 ok. i dont see a coredump for xnh 23:09 it definitely panicked though 23:09 oh i see 23:09 ok one sec 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:44016 23:10 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by Arnibald! 23:10 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by Arnibald! 23:10 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by Arnibald! 23:10 Junethack: Arnibald ascended a game of NetHack 3.7.0 on www.hardfought.org! 23:10 why would Set gift a spellbook to an infernal barbarian? can't use it!! 23:10 cebolla there's a backup of your save from a lil over an hour ago 23:10 i can restore that 23:11 correction 23:11 i see the e save, from a few min ago 23:12 ok cebolla try and load your game 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:44036 23:12 aosdict, from the paniclog - 1590986263 spicycat: panic dealloc_obj with nobj 23:12 looks like it worked :( 23:12 thanks! 23:12 np 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 t-shirt", on T:44037 23:12 K2: are there any more details 23:12 no thats it 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dogleaf (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 144 points, T:358, killed by a goblin 23:13 well that's not helpful :| 23:13 <@riker> that's a really vague crash 23:13 perhaps grab s the spicycat ttyrec 23:13 aosdict i'd give you more details if i had them 23:13 cebolla: are the contents of your boh similar to what it had when you blew it up 23:13 <@riker> hey spicycat were there any monsters around you when it crashed? 23:14 if I could get a copy of your current game, I could try to blow up the boh and see if it reproduces 23:14 there's the same entry in the paniclog for dgoddard 23:14 looks similar, yeah. EotA and magicbane are gone, but i presume that's the price of forgetting a minor rule in nethack 23:14 one sec aosdict i'll provide it 23:15 ah, they might be in water nearby 23:15 aosdict which save do you want? the one a bit more than an hour old or the emergency save? it takes spicycat to right after the panic 23:15 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 23:16 oh, right after the panic? 23:16 that wouldn't be useful then 23:16 ok 23:16 the hour old one might be no good either 23:17 [hdf-us] [un] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed can of grease", on T:39320 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:44103 23:17 * aosdict rewrites nethack in python so every panic is an exception with a nice stack trace 23:18 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4056 23:19 repro: be a gargoyle with telitis, wearing a ring of polymorph, who has just put a bot into her boh 23:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] fitsf (Rog Dop Mal Cha), 6978 points, T:3983, killed by a soldier ant 23:19 you made it panic again? 23:19 next to water 23:19 <@fits> soldier antssssssss 23:19 no 23:20 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 11058 points, T:4356, killed by a landshark, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:15196 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15197 23:20 whoa 23:20 I repro'd just by stuffing things into the boh 23:20 to the gdb-mobile! 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44207 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] 2five6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44208 23:21 whenever I see "Master of Thieves" I hear Metallica in my head. 23:21 appears related to the scattering of objects from an exploding boh, water isn't involved 23:23 bouquet \o/ 23:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:38, on T:32475 23:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32481 23:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:14223 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2104 23:29 K2: pushed fix 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1610 points, T:2115, killed by a wand 23:30 <{Demo}> you could just deref a bad pointer at the end of panic() 23:30 <{Demo}> so you at least get a backtrace 23:30 that's demo logic 23:31 <{Demo}> OR 23:31 <{Demo}> just raise a sigsegv 23:31 <{Demo}> but idk how to do that on windows 23:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:14008 23:31 is every map in nh370 flipped in some way? or is it just my luck? 23:32 luck 23:32 [hdf-us] [un] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law), 196761 points, T:40021, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 23:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:32672 23:32 <@murgatroid99> I forgot that I lost my gloves a while ago and I just picked it up 23:33 every standard level so far, including all os sokoban, has been upsidedown and backwards. 23:33 @murgatroid99 :( 23:34 3.7.0 seems to have some tricks to it. 23:34 <@murgatroid99> Still, I got a good number of achievements for my first UNH run ever 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] johanv (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1 23:35 T:1 lol 23:35 explore mode? 23:35 gotta love the smoky healing potions. 23:35 oh 23:36 I'm assuming - since they are a healer. 23:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:14561 23:39 so i'm thinking i shouldn't wield a sword named "Unlucky Sword". 23:39 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in two variants" unlocked by murgatroid99! 23:39 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by murgatroid99! 23:39 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in two variants" unlocked by murgatroid99! 23:39 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 23:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Durin's Bane, on T:15525 23:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:32873 23:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:32875 23:42 be back in a bit....time to update my system software! 23:42 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 23:44 <{Demo}> gonna sleep and in the morning go bug hunting in vanilla maybe 23:44 <{Demo}> in an attempt to build the uberweapon 23:44 <@microlance> orc seems like a very gud race in dnet. 23:45 -!- tommo_ has joined #hardfought 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed johanv's ghost, the former Rhizotomist, on T:3185 23:50 -!- tommo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:52 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Kni Ang Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3520 23:54 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Kni Ang Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3594 23:55 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Kni Ang Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3699 23:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 frost brand", on T:17335 23:56 [hdf-us] [dyn] Tommo (Val Hum Fem Law), 1641 points, T:3681, choked on an owlbear corpse 23:56 [hdf-us] [spl] murgatroid99 (Val Ang Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2187 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:75109 23:57 -!- tommo_ has joined #hardfought 23:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 frost brand", on T:17336 23:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed bag of holding", on T:17341