00:01 [hdf-us] [dyn] me3 (dragonspeaker) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4824 points, T:2707, killed by a gray unicorn 00:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5619 00:09 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 00:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 338 points, T:1023, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:16 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Meddi (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered Winston, his faithful pony, on T:1407 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Meddi (Kni Hum Mal Law), 380 points, T:1421, killed by a couatl of Lugh, while fainted from lack of food 00:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:21 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4996 points, T:6996, killed by an owlbear 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 350633 points, T:54617, killed by a splash of acid 00:23 ... did he get instakilled by kathryn too 00:23 !lastgame eraserhead97 00:23 aosdict: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/evilhack/dumplog/1589161499.evil.html 00:24 <@Sig> They say that Vlad is a cuckold. Thank you fortune cookie 00:25 !tell eraserhead97 condolences, I also know the pain of getting unexpectedly one-shot with acid from Kathryn :( 00:25 I'm on it, aosdict. 00:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 00:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 00:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Client Quit] 00:30 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:30 <@Sig> Can't you use bananas to tame monkeys, or am I thinking of another variant? 00:31 vanilla has this in some 3.6 and onward 00:32 thus, splice, xnethack and evil inherit it 00:32 <{Demo}1> that's a slashem thing 00:32 <{Demo}1> cool vanilla has it now 00:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:36 <@Pacra> doing kathryn at xl15, very bold 00:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 00:42 <@Suzune Takada> what's the best artifact for dragonmaster in spl 00:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:42 <@Suzune Takada> (can use broadsword but can't be chaotic so can't use stormbringer 😦 00:44 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Dra Chn Nbn Law), 658 points, T:781, slain by a gnome 00:47 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:50 <@Suzune Takada> ah in spl, non-rectangle room in dungeons of doom added? 00:52 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Dra Chn Nbn Law), 228 points, T:1151, killed by handling an orcish helm 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 4840 points, T:5061, killed by a chameleon imitating a vorpal jabberwock 00:55 <@Suzune Takada> ah 00:55 <@Suzune Takada> locust added 00:55 <@Suzune Takada> one of the dangerous early monster in unh 00:59 <@Suzune Takada> dancers are: basic on axe, skilled on dagger/short sword/flail/polearm, expert on scimitar/knife/two hand combat 00:59 <@Suzune Takada> ... 00:59 <@Suzune Takada> need to get crysknife? 01:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:11 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 01:12 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Dan Inf Nbn Cha), 1221 points, T:1590, offed by a priest of the Archomentals, while sleeping 01:15 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:28 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] phollenback (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 7126 points, T:6565, killed by a vampire bat 01:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:20031 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2807 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3000 02:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3331 02:32 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 294 points, T:1202, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 02:34 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 02:34 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 12 points, T:72, killed by a bear trap 02:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 5170 points, T:5659, killed by an owlbear 02:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 23265 points, T:14134, killed by a leocrotta 02:59 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2643 03:26 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 03:34 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:34 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 03:38 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 03:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:28 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:47 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 04:52 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:02 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 05:42 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 06:23 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:43 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:44 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:46 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:46 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 06:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 07:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1365 points, T:1222, killed by a dwarf 07:33 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:41 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:42 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 07:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 07:42 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:47 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 07:50 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 07:50 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:51 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:00 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:01 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 08:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:48992 08:07 Hi K2 I found an unaligned altar in the dungeons of doom, I thought they were not supposed to appear there? 08:07 as in right now? 08:08 can i see your game? 08:08 you can copy my save game 08:09 I am on that level 08:09 k 08:11 how strange 08:11 i wonder if that's a random vault 08:12 some random vaults look just like a regular room 08:12 this isnt bad... just odd 08:16 ok thx for checking! :-) 08:18 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 08:19 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:21 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:34 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 08:35 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:39 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 08:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 08:39 gmornin 08:41 yay... a dagger... 08:41 thanks Anhur 08:41 xD 08:41 r - a dagger named Anhur's Pity (10 aum) 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 867 points, T:903, killed by a dwarf 08:46 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 08:56 -!- qt_ has quit [Quit: qt_] 09:09 what's 'aum'? 09:10 arbitrary unit of measurement 09:11 arbitray unity of measure 09:11 *arbitrary unit 09:12 lol 09:13 "arbitrary unity of measure" would be amazing 09:13 "how big is this newt?" "one" ... "how big is the dragon?" .. "one" 09:14 aum = weight of gold piece? 09:16 sweeeeeet 09:16 thanks Djinni 09:18 or is 1 aum the weight of 100 gold pieces? 09:18 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Weight 09:19 ^ 09:19 mobileuser: no, 50$ are 1 aum 09:19 meh 09:19 cloak of displacement 09:19 ah ok 09:20 although, the wiki article claims 100$ are 1 aum. does the code round the value? 09:21 I was trying to make aum work as meaning Aurum measurement 09:22 hmm, no aum is directly pulled from obj->owt 09:22 I hate the destroy armor touch attack. 09:22 also, WTF is the mithril in this mine? 09:23 two levels below minetown and still not one iota of mithril. 09:23 >_< 09:23 although 150$ is 2 aum and 149$ is 1. so owt is rounded. 09:24 heh, there is even a wikipedia article on "Arbitrary unit" 09:24 learn something every day 09:24 hey mobileuser - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/1afa961416325ce442a4e7060cb291b01c9b3031 09:25 Hey, a nethack 3.7 fix? Cool! 09:26 yeah that bit you reported about BoH exploding and objects landing in lava 09:27 yes, nice! 09:28 I see that you submitted the issue 09:29 hmmm hm hm, deep mines, or sokoban? 09:30 pretty much got what I could out of minetown at this point 09:30 deep mines are scary :S 09:30 but sokozoo is also scary 09:30 the soko prize could help you in the mines, but... 09:30 I have CoMR and SDSM so the soko tool would be nice, unless I get a BoH in deepmines 09:31 i could still try for the marker for course 09:31 what's the 3rd option? boots? 09:31 or a cloak? 09:31 i think gloves of protection or helm of speed 09:32 hrm. those are actually both nice possilibities 09:32 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:52055 09:32 but chance of marker... 09:32 ah it is in the wiki: Sokoban prize armor – gauntlets of protection or a helm of speed. 09:32 right 09:32 if I survive long enough to get the soko prize and I still don't have a bag, I'd def go for the tool 09:33 otherwise, hard to choose 09:33 marker, helm of speed, gauntlets of protection, all great items... 09:33 I tend to go for luck early if I have MR, but that is a personal choice 09:34 I'm also playing Ith Wiz 09:34 with fighters I dive for the luckstone and often live 09:34 with wizards it usually takes me a lot longer before I face Mines' End 09:34 ah too squishy 09:34 ja 09:35 The invisible genetic engineer just misses! 09:35 AC:-3 helps 09:35 protection gloves would push that more, extrinsic speed would also be helpful 09:35 maybe I should attempt sokoban... 09:35 come back to the mines later 09:35 >invisible genetic enfgneer 09:35 engineer* 09:35 hhhhhhhhhhhhh 09:36 I could also scope out one or two deepmines levels to see if I can find a bag before things get /too/ dangerous down there 09:36 and run away if needed 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:10474 09:38 !who 09:38 K2: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370] Karnac [nh370] dgoddard [nh370] hackedhead [nh4] hyperion67 [spl] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] aoei [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:52253 09:39 EvilHack updated (all servers) 09:40 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:29471 09:40 aoei not critial but you may want to save/reload 09:40 *critical 09:40 K2: mkay I'll get it over with now 09:40 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 09:43 now with more danger from steeds :-) 09:45 hm, does reflection also protect my items from gnome wiz attacks? 09:45 no 09:45 noted 09:48 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:52836 09:48 uh oh. possible polytrap detected. aborting Deep Mines Expedition 09:49 too dangerous 09:49 need backup 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 716 points, T:602, killed by a wand 09:52 you don't have MR? 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:30253 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:30262 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) averted death, on T:133 09:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:00 the risk is probably all of those scurry poly'd monsters rather than getting polied 10:00 alright, who left the ancient pseduodragon in minetown? 10:01 Nice bones 10:01 amateurhour: oh i see. Yeah, I'm used to worrying about my robe getting torn from the trap itself 10:02 umbire: yeah, I'm guessing they are nice bones. I didn't live to find out lol 10:03 ripperoni 10:03 F 10:03 ah, excellent, I now have intrinsic see invis and a towel, that'll help deal with the annoying invisible nymph in minetown 10:05 you gonna towel whip them? 10:05 lol 10:08 amateurhour, how else does one deal with naughty nymphs? :D 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh4] Aoi (Lyra) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 37899 points, T:3329, quit 10:14 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:16 rebatela, I do have MR, I'm more concerned about the dangerous monsters it's generating than any effect on myself 10:16 so far I've only seen an ettin mummy, but if I'm right, worse may appear 10:17 oh wait amateurhour already addressed this xD 10:17 IGNORE ME 10:17 "You hear someone jump into a saddle. You hear a thud." 10:18 heh 10:18 that was a storm giant trying to ride a kitten 10:19 that would be a splat 10:19 oh neat. I've learnt stone to flesh 10:19 might come in handy if food becomes scarce 10:20 lmao. my mum just sent me this, a new "folk song" they have in Russia, she says: "oh dear, what to do? go to the mask without a face mask: get arrested, wear a mask: get shot" 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh4] elf (Lyra) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 25492 points, T:1489, killed by an iguana 10:21 er sorry, go to the bank 10:21 alrighty then 10:21 i ballsed that one up nicely 10:24 lol 10:25 finally chosen 10:25 Kos just can't make up their mind as to what you should do 10:25 first it's go get the amulet 10:25 next it's bring them souls 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:1348 10:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:29 switch alignment tbh, maybe you'll be better managed by Issek 10:30 nah, I'll stick with Kos now :-) 10:31 I wonder what I should name my ancient pseudodragon 10:31 Phil 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1636 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3099 points, T:1690, killed by a vampire bat 10:34 Sue the pseudodragon 10:34 :) 10:35 Billy/Sally/Rupret/Doug/Larry 10:35 sudo name them them sue 10:36 Sue/Amelia/Erin/Gale 10:36 or, 'that bitch Stacey in HR' 10:37 and suddenly my speed problem is solved 10:37 helm of speed? 10:38 yes, nice evilhack armor 10:38 leaves the boots free 10:38 eh. 10:39 if you don't wish for a particular material, is it random? 10:39 I feel like obviated slot conflict isn't necessarily a good thing. 10:39 hackedhead: I think it was added because centaurs can't wear boots 10:40 shouldn't centaurs just have intrinsic speed anyway? 10:40 what with the legs and all? 10:40 I like the added options in evilhack 10:40 I feel like there are so many variants now that just turn everything up to eleven. 10:41 centaurs have intrinsic speed, but not extra speed 10:41 and heaven forbid choosing to play a centaur come with any tradeoffs 10:42 phew 10:42 meh. sorry. I'm in a bad mood for this discussion, apparently. I'll stop. 10:42 only tradeoff is not getting any boot options 10:42 ok :-) 10:42 my pet ancient pseudodragon got levported, but I found it again 10:43 Centaurs are default fast, yeah, but no boots. 10:43 And speed items usually give very fast 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 65324 points, T:12625, killed by an Olog-hai 10:48 [hdf-us] [4k] Akadashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:3614 10:49 shit, do blessed potions of see invis no longer give the permanent intrinsic? 10:49 nothing gives it except being a monk, getting crowned(?), and magic traps 10:50 iirc 10:51 hmmmmmm tricky 10:51 guess those spells and temporary potions will be more important than ever, also telepathy+blindness 10:51 haha, I figured out why I can't reach my pet 10:51 hackedhead: play unnethack :-} 10:51 thanks clairvoyance 10:51 getting crowned makes see invis permanent, unless you lose it to a polytrap 10:51 bhaak, sorry m8 EH is the big thing now 10:52 * bhaak ragequits 10:52 xD 10:52 mobileuser, lose it... to a polytrap? i assume you mean a magic trap? 10:52 bhaak: console yourself by asking which variant is getting all its stuff put into vanilla :-) 10:52 oh sorry magic trap 10:52 * bhaak still ragequits 10:53 can you also get it from a throne still? 10:53 IIRC that could happen in vanilla 10:53 dunno... 10:53 throne #sit 10:53 never happened to me 10:53 you can but I don't think it's permanent 10:53 haha, I figured out why I can't reach my pet thanks clairvoyance <-- pet ancient pseudodragon is in a vault 10:54 the message is "your vision becomes clear" or something like that 10:54 I'll have to go grab my pick-axe -.- 10:54 does throwing things out of a shop anger the shopkeeper? 10:54 elenmirie_, yeah, I thought that was permanent 10:54 in xnh thrones give one of the longest durations but it isn't permanent 10:54 it is in vanilla 10:54 elenmirie_, but not EH? 10:54 pretty sure not 10:54 what about stalker invis/see invis, also no longer perm if already invis? 10:54 but I could be wrong 10:55 from stalker is also not permanent. ESP is a good alternative to see invis, if you can get it 10:55 I once wished for a T-shirt with ESP object prop :-) 10:55 got sick of losing see invis 10:56 ouch 10:56 lost 2 pt str thanks to a snake 10:57 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Set, on T:53428 10:57 ouch, not 100% poison res yet? 10:58 no, I did eat a unicorn or two but I guess it's not enough 10:58 not sure what % I'm at 10:59 no enlightnement to check 11:00 if no potion of restore then prayer at an altar usually fixes it 11:02 closest coaligned is dl1 11:02 don't want to risk converting one after last time I did that 11:02 got an earth elemental set on my ass 11:03 -!- rsa__ has joined #hardfought 11:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law), 14065 points, T:6589, killed by a giant beetle 11:04 rah, gnome zapped a hole in the shop doorway 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:34124 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34160 11:10 gah, walked all the way to dl1 for nothing 11:10 used a prayer for *nothing* 11:16 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:17 ? 11:19 warning will show where the invisibles are as well, right? 11:20 go grab that 8-ball 11:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2095 11:25 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:27 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4768 points, T:4126, killed by a yeti 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 924 points, T:1031, killed by a white unicorn 11:35 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1101 points, T:1684, killed by a rabid rat 11:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 11:52 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Winds, on T:34910 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha) was given Spineseeker, on T:3197 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class a, on T:35464 11:59 haha 11:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:00 microlance: good loot? 12:00 d'aw 12:00 oooh, maybe there'll be a double bones 12:00 <@microlance> triple 12:00 <@microlance> if i got bones as well 12:01 oh you found a double? 12:01 <@microlance> there was an ancient pseudodragon there as well might have killed himself fighting the captain 12:01 oh btw microlance how do I connect via rld? 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Fire, on T:35629 12:01 the ancient pseudodragon would have been mypet 12:01 <@microlance> yeah, rebatelas bones were there as well 12:01 ah 12:02 ooooh tapioca 12:02 yum! 12:03 <@microlance> it was his bag of tricks which killed me. i though it was a normal bag because i didnt loot check on the ground first, and forgot after dropping on the altar. in case it was a cursed boh 12:03 you applied and got a killer bee? 12:03 <@microlance> many 12:04 <@microlance> and i was out in the open 12:04 hmm I'm currently messing with Mobile Adapter GB code 12:04 microlance microlance 12:04 how do I connect from discord 12:04 would be cool to get GB online working 12:04 just like in 2001 :P 12:04 <@microlance> connect from discord? 12:05 isn't it the discord bridge you're using now? 12:05 this rld thingy? 12:05 <@riker> join the r/roguelikes discord 12:05 <@microlance> im on discord 12:05 microlance: yes I can see that 12:05 riker: _thank_ you 12:05 glad I'm making sense to somebody xD 12:05 <@microlance> ah your on irc and want to join the discord proper 12:06 <@microlance> ? 12:06 <@riker> https://discord.gg/s8wsPG 12:06 <@riker> yeah if his name had bot then it means hes on irc lmao 12:06 she* 12:06 but yes, or rather I want to be able to access this IRC channel via discord 12:07 <@microlance> yeah i know, i just didnt fully understand the meaning of her question 12:08 Well there you go 12:08 I used to join on the discord side often but irc is more fun sometimes 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 464 points, T:1082, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 12:09 <@riker> I'm only on disc because i have discord open 24/7 for other stuff 12:09 I just wanna see stuff from this chan when my laptop/hexchat aren't logged in xD 12:09 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2461 12:09 I'm on Discord because it works better when I'm on my phone 12:09 but I prefer IRC 12:09 <@riker> aoei k2 does keep logs for here btw 12:09 <@riker> hardfought.org/irclog or something 12:10 ah okay 12:10 also realtime? 12:10 <@riker> ye 12:10 pretty much realtime 12:10 <@riker> I think beholder records them 12:10 neat 12:11 but now I'm on the roguelikes discord anyway, how do i find the irc bridge? 12:11 Cool 12:11 You just look for the nethack-hardfought channel lol 12:11 #nethack-hardfought on discord 12:11 All the nethack channels are bridged I think 12:11 <@riker> nethack goes to IRC nethack-discord 12:12 <@riker> nothing goes to IRC #nethack or any of the variant specific channels 12:13 I can only see #the-door and #rules-faq 12:13 <@riker> you may have to wait 15 or 30 min 12:13 ahhh okay 12:13 <@riker> anti spam rules 12:14 <@riker> bunch of servers have stuff like that so it's harder for spambots to do stuff 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 272 points, T:670, killed by a giant bat 12:18 what? turn 670?? 12:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha), 14236 points, T:4127, killed by a fire ant 12:18 heh 12:19 Go Team Ant! 12:19 -!- rsa__ is now known as NAOrsa 12:23 <@riker> aoei does it work now? the message you sent now shows the channels you listed as invalid 12:24 i may just need to wait longer? 12:24 no change currently 12:25 ahhhh, you have to actually read the text XD 12:25 Please read the #rules-faq channel to learn the rules of our server, and near the bottom you will find the captcha phrase. Simply paste that phrase here in this channel, 12:25 it's what I get for being lazy 12:25 XD 12:26 that's new? 12:26 I don't remember having to do that 12:26 <@Tone> Added in the last year or so 12:27 <@aoei> success 12:28 discord is so OP 12:28 everybody can have an @ 12:30 <@riker> technically speaking that's a bug and only applied for webhooks lol 12:30 <@riker> only doable from the bot side, and I think it was patched 12:32 Cancellation mail wew 12:33 [hdf-us] [4k] Akadashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:7946 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3102 12:34 [hdf-us] [fh] Bob (phollenback) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 9577 points, T:195, killed by a coyote 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5662 12:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3368 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1237 points, T:3423, killed by a dart 12:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7770 points, T:6288, killed by an owlbear 12:48 <@Pacra> !lastgame microlance 12:48 @Pacra: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1589384085.evil.html 12:49 <@Pacra> !lastgame microlance role=con 12:49 @Pacra: No last game for (microlance,role=con). 12:49 <@Pacra> @microlance what happened with that buff convict? 12:51 <@microlance> i died in the ice queens realm because the battle axe there was cursed, which you need to get through the trees. behind the trees there were a snow golem and i thought i maybe could take it on even with a cursed weapon with no training in. turned out i couldnt 12:52 ow 12:52 i died on that lvl last night too 12:52 BYOA I guess 12:52 i'm just going to skip it when i'm already having a good game i tink 12:52 think 12:52 <@microlance> it was mostly laziness i couldnt bother to tip my boh right there and then 12:52 rebatela: yeah, is there much worth going for besides boh and pegasus? I don't really need either 12:53 <@microlance> lots of giants and such 12:53 <@microlance> so if you have a tinning kit you can max str 12:53 meh 12:53 last time i finished it I was a giant and got a wooly mammoth to ride, so that was super fun. Kept him for a while through gehennom 12:53 lvl 36 12:53 300 hp or something and I was flying/riding it 12:54 EPI: player giants instakill any saddled pet they attempt to ride that isn't MZ_HUGE or MZ_GIGANTIC 12:54 i'm fine with that. Whoops! sorry pegasus ! 12:55 <@microlance> i think dragons should be able to have a giant on their back, they should just lose flying 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 93 points, T:359, killed by a water moccasin 12:55 <@microlance> and become even slower then they already are 12:55 dragons are MZ_GIGANTIC aren't they? 12:55 <@microlance> how large is a giant? 12:56 yes 12:56 i believe giants can only write wooly mammoths 12:56 ride* 12:57 is that opinion founded on scientific reasoning? 12:58 its not an opinion 12:58 its a fact 12:58 a game of thrones fact 12:59 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 12:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:00 nethack is a game of thrones 13:00 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:00 it's a game, has thrones in it 13:00 ^ fact 13:01 \o/ 13:01 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 43487 points, T:11830, killed by a gnome 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3037 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3049 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3151 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a carrot on an altar, on T:3155 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1765 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:61763 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:2480 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3940 points, T:2654, killed by a goblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 297 points, T:821, killed by a gnome 13:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:18 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 13:20 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:1795 13:26 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3000 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3111 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2274 points, T:3111, killed by a giant ant 13:32 [hdf-us] [4k] Akadashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:10885 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1631 13:35 :o 13:35 neat 13:37 <@riker> YANI: if you engraved "x" on the floor and then engrave-test a wand of polymorph, the x will come to life as a grid bug 13:37 <@riker> the message "the engraving here has changed" is suppressed and something like "the x turns into a grid bug" is printed instead 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1774 13:39 YANI: that except with wands of create monster, and it works for most monster classes (though probably not totally reliably) 13:40 <@riker> ^ better idea 13:40 haha that'd be awesome 13:40 K2, make it so! 13:40 (please) 13:40 <@riker> if the engraving is a single letter then it makes a monster of that type? 13:40 i assume 13:41 <@riker> probably can't make it too universal, I can imagine burning a bunch of CM wands to try to get a unicorn horn or something 13:41 yes 13:41 maybe small chance of it happening? 13:41 but not every time 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 561 points, T:887, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hill orc 13:43 :o converted an altar, noice 13:43 Ptah sent a couatl after me, but it was easy to dispatch 13:45 uh oh 13:45 something funny just happened to my game 13:45 <@riker> what happened lol 13:45 lets see if I can just reconnect 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2741 13:46 some weird text flashed up and then I got bounced to the dgl menu 13:46 <@riker> it probably crashed 13:46 There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] (n) 13:46 <@riker> hey k2 you here? 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 996 points, T:2147, killed by a watch captain 13:46 nooooo no destroy game thank you very much 13:46 <@riker> you'll probably have to wait for k2 to recover it 13:47 okay 13:47 <@riker> what did you do in-game that made it kick the bucket? 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 345 points, T:540, killed by a gnome lord 13:47 er 13:47 I was attacking an invisible monster 13:47 hi 13:47 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 13:47 i also had a cockatrice corpse in my inventory but not wielded 13:47 probably not relevant 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 386 points, T:2333, killed by a gnome zombie 13:47 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:48 even if the invisible monster turned out to be a foocubus or something, i'd have to have been wielding the c corpse for anything bad to happen 13:48 aoei, this evilhack? 13:48 K2, yes 13:48 k one sec 13:48 thank you! 13:49 <@riker> hey don't thank him, it's his fault your game crashed! 13:49 oh right 13:49 true! 13:49 I retract my previous thanks and shout obsecenities at K2 13:50 also apparently I can't spell 13:50 okay well anyway. perhaps now's an excellent time to go for a stroll 13:50 aoei game is recovered 13:50 nevermind, back to dungeon hacking 13:50 thanks K2 :D 13:51 <@riker> hey k2 any interesting coredump or something there? 13:51 [hdf-us] [fh] Bob (phollenback) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 27581 points, T:3931, killed by a bugbear's wand 13:51 yes 13:51 I see some messages in the ttyrec 13:51 aoei what were you doing exactly right before the crash 13:51 K2, F at an I 13:51 IIRC 13:52 are you watching my game now? 13:52 you can see on this level a zoo, I was fighting in there 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 286 points, T:1112, killed by a gnome lord 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3824 points, T:3706, killed by a soldier ant 13:52 <@riker> try to do it again aoei! 13:52 seems the recovered game is rolled back a number of turns 13:52 riker, nooooo 13:52 I don't want it to crash again :( 13:52 https://termbin.com/lhqg 13:52 you mentioed a minion 13:52 I mean K2 can recover it again, but it helps to narrow down what bugs things 13:53 Oh, converted altar 13:53 right, it went wonks from there possibly 13:53 <@riker> the last time my dnethack game crashed i proceeded to make it crash in the same way like 5 more times 13:53 K2, I mentioned what now? 13:53 Umbire, true 13:53 there was a couatl of Ptah 13:53 I killed it 13:53 You converted the altar and it went buggy once the coautl was sent after you 13:53 crash happened a bit later 13:54 invis monster? 13:54 K2, yeah 13:54 <@riker> k2: probably trying to call mon_nam on an mtmp that doesn't exist? 13:54 I was attacking an invis monster 13:54 did you kill it? or just hitting it? 13:54 I don't think I killed the invis monster 13:54 looks like recovered game is rolled back to before I converted the altar 13:54 shall I try and convert it again XD 13:54 <@riker> that shouldn't be related I don't think 13:55 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/evilhack/ttyrec/2020-05-13.13:40:30.ttyrec.gz 13:55 Umbire thinks it is 13:55 <@riker> i'd guess it had some issue where the monster vanished/etc. when it tried to call mon_nam for something 13:55 <@riker> and it called mon_nam of null 13:55 K2 asked about a minion, so I was inclined to think it had something to do with that 13:55 displaced monster 13:55 ah 13:55 <@riker> ah nice 13:56 if ((is_displaced(mtmp->data) || has_displacement(mtmp)) 13:56 && !u.uswallow && !rn2(4)) { 13:56 pline("The image of %s shimmers and vanishes!", mon_nam(mtmp)); 13:56 return FALSE; 13:56 } 13:56 <@riker> wonder why that crashed 13:56 second line of the bt points to the pline 13:56 <@riker> because it checks mtmp->data just above, and that didn't crashed 13:56 something in do_name.c for mon_nam() it didnt like 13:57 <@riker> "didn't crashed" i can't speak english 13:57 so maybe it was invis and displaced 13:57 <@riker> k2 mon_nam is just 13:57 <@riker> return x_monnam(mtmp, ARTICLE_THE, (char *) 0, (has_mname(mtmp)) ? SUPPRESS_SADDLE : 0, FALSE); 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 607 points, T:570, killed by a gnome 13:57 yeah 13:57 <@riker> looks like it crashed on has_mname 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 463 points, T:1241, killed by a gecko, while praying 13:58 <@riker> ah ok mon->mxetra is probably broken 13:58 <@riker> has_mname expands to ((mon)->mextra && ((mon)->mextra->mname)) 13:59 dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 3 pending on Dlvl:8 13:59 Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 13:59 same zoo is the culprit 13:59 should I keep going and try to crash it, or save and reload? 13:59 K2 your call 13:59 <@riker> I don't think a dmonsfree would be likely to crash 13:59 save it please i'd like a copy 13:59 okay 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Foodahn (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1247 points, T:2332, killed by a giant spider 13:59 saved 14:00 need me to wait before loading again so you have the copy or do you save copies automatically somewhere else? 14:00 you sure you saved? 14:00 I pressed S and am now at dgl menu 14:01 please tell me there's a save game 14:01 D: 14:01 oh, it totally crashed when I tried to save 14:01 that's what all that text that flashed on screen was 14:01 yeah i'm recovering it again, one sec 14:01 <@riker> saving and reloading did NOT fix that problem 14:01 if mextra is broken, saving wouldn't work either 14:02 pointing to some garbage 14:02 aight maybe I'll go for that walk 14:02 <@riker> what messes with mextra? 14:02 K2 if you have any instructions for when I return please PM me 14:02 pets, guards, shopkeepers, minions use it, iirc 14:03 zoo had a long worm, some soldiers, a cockatrice, what else... 14:03 @riker where did you see that mextra was broken? 14:03 I thin riker inferred because has_mname expands to that 14:03 <@riker> ^ 14:03 <@riker> the line that crashed in do_name was "(has_mname(mtmp)) ? SUPPRESS_SADDLE : 0, FALSE);" 14:04 i see 14:04 <@riker> from mextra.h that should expand to ((mon)->mextra && ((mon)->mextra->mname)) 14:05 <@riker> my guess would be that mextra is garbage and therefore mextra->mname crashes? 14:05 K2, like I said, PM me if there's anything you need me to do for further investigation or whatever... I'll be away for like an hour tops 14:06 k 14:06 just realising a break from the computer might be a good idea 14:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1684 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1130 points, T:1734, killed by the wrath of Anhur 14:07 tail of a warg, being ridden 14:07 that's the invisible thing in the zoo 14:07 i was working with antigulp earlier today with a crash in splicehack for basically the same thing 14:07 <@riker> why do wargs have tails? 14:08 evilhack uses her monster steed code 14:08 they dont 14:08 but if she has bugs with the monster stted code, then almost assuredly I do too 14:08 *steed 14:08 <@riker> fair 14:08 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 14:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 14:08 she just pushed a fix, lets see if that helps 14:08 That sounds like a monster steed code bug 14:08 hi AntiGulp! 14:09 tail of a warg. hehe 14:09 same thing in evilhack hah 14:09 noooooo 14:09 Thought I resolved all of those >:( 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 680 points, T:680, killed by a dwarf 14:10 aoei's game crashed as they were fighting an invisible , when i view it with telepathy, its 'tail of a warg, being ridden' 14:11 K2: you have no 3.6 on hdf anymore? 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2219 14:11 bhaak: just older games for folks who havent cut over to 370-hdf yet 14:11 there wont be any 3.6.x vanilla games counter for junethack 14:11 *counted 14:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Swn Fem Cha), 167 points, T:438, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:12 <@riker> ah, that is not an xp 1 resistance 14:12 oh and the thing attacking them seems to be an elf zombie 14:12 heh 14:12 K2: Yeah, that’s absolutely a monsters steed bug I’ve encountered before. It happens when the rider / steed is trying to exist in multiple places at once. Thing is, I thought I fixed the last of that problem. 14:12 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:13 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:2555 14:14 fuz fuz fuz might help 14:14 elf zombie, riding it 14:15 rofl... i wonder 14:15 i wonder if the elf zombie mounted the warg 14:15 warg is a valid steed target in evilhack 14:15 Wait, did you pick up my dynamic monster mounting code? 14:15 (for orcs) 14:15 i did 14:15 Ah 14:15 fuckin love it 14:16 i left you !tell msgs in the dev channel but you havent gotten them yet 14:16 Oh, it’s easily one of my favorite features ever. 14:16 i am impressed 14:16 i mean, it obviously has some bugs :P but its so damn cool 14:16 I like the steed stuff in evilhack - it's very flavourful 14:16 i tested it with rodney 14:17 I fought a Nazgul when I was not able to see invisible. It was epic 14:17 he does his summon nasties thing, a couple dragons are there, then a few turns later he mounts one 14:17 :P 14:17 ooh 14:17 K2: Yup, that’s exactly what I had in mind! 14:17 and then that dragon will breath attack you at distance 14:17 \o/ 14:18 This has always been the end goal for monster steeds: Cool dynamic shit 14:18 do they spawn with saddles, or is that part of the patch? 14:18 the rider will sometimes make one 14:18 but its not necessary 14:18 elenmirie_: That’s one of the places where Evil and Splice’s implementation differs. 14:18 ok 14:18 But yeah, not necessary 14:19 AntiGulp I made it so player monsters will try to mount a steed too 14:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Swn Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2161 14:19 I'm kind of ok with certain combinations being able to ride bareback 14:19 not as aggressively as rodney but moreso than everything else 14:19 I mean, they have a partnership, right? 14:19 K2: Ooh, nice. I wanted to keep it pretty rare, because it’s a horribly inefficient operation. 14:19 orcs and wargs 14:19 elenmirie_ yup 14:19 Nazgul and Foul Beasts 14:19 player orcs can ride wargs fyi 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1006 points, T:758, killed by a dwarf 14:20 thats been in for awhile now 14:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:20 Okay, theorycrafting time: I didn’t include a check to see if the mount can move / is awake. So maybe the elf zombie mounted a paralyzed monster. 14:21 that's flavourful, actually, a zombie might do that 14:22 Oh, hold on. Think I found the bug 14:24 K2: Think I fixed it. I forgot to institute a check to see if a monster was being ridden when checking if it could be mounted, so multiple monsters can try to ride the same steed. 14:24 This makes the game v unhappy 14:24 *snrk* 14:25 17 orcs pile onto the back of one poor warg 14:25 Game breaks along with its spine 14:25 * elenmirie_ phones the RSPCA 14:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Swn Fem Cha), 12770 points, T:4914, killed by a magic missile 14:25 no wonder one was riding on the tail 14:25 “The pile of 17 orcs surges toward you!” 14:25 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:25 lol 14:25 lol 14:25 this is awesome 14:25 It's a lot like those meme photos of people carrying a lot of stuff on their car 14:25 or motorcycle 14:25 even the bugs have flavor 14:26 clowns in a VW bug! 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3129 14:26 Monster steeds is the coolest thing I’ve ever written, but the code is an eldritch horror that should never come into existence. It’s such an SMOP. 14:27 Pushed a fix 14:27 You view the code. Your mind turns into a gibbering pretzel. 14:30 I'm at that terrifying point in Evilhack where I know there's nowhere left to go but into Gehennom 14:30 AntiGulp wooot 14:31 I know no matter how ready I am, I'm not ready 14:31 NetHack code: Under absolutely no circumstances (besides engulfing) should monsters share the same x and y coordinate. My dumb ass: Hey lets write this cool feature that relise on monsters sharing the same x and y coordinate for an extended number of turns. 14:32 \o/ 14:32 AntiGulp: have you run the fuzzer? 14:33 paxed: I want to, but my gdb install is broken. I’m still working on getting it to play nice. 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 1820 points, T:2410, killed by a couatl of Issek 14:34 paxed, AntiGulp uses a mac 14:34 i think you do as well 14:34 heretics 14:34 ^ 14:34 AntiGulp, i no see fix on github 14:34 NO SEE 14:35 NO YOU SEE 14:35 (I forgot to push. It’s there now) 14:35 :P 14:35 too posh to push, eh? 14:36 Don’t push me 14:36 lol 14:36 <@riker> I like the commit message/description 14:36 lol 14:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:36 'fixed monsters turning into clown cars' 14:36 epic 14:36 brilliant 14:36 <@riker> nyeh 14:37 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 14:37 ^ clown car fixes 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Foodahn (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Oedipa, her faithful kitten, on T:2137 14:39 Lunch was ending and I was in a hurry, I stand by my commit message :P 14:39 I love it 14:40 <@riker> i read it in papyrus's voice, particularly the "nyeh" 14:40 I've still got an image of 17 orcs riding one warg, at least one clinging to the tail 14:40 AntiGulp see dev channel 14:42 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Hea Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 bone skull cap on an altar, on T:4232 14:44 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:51 EvilHack updated (all servers) 14:51 !who 14:51 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [evil] karibou [evil] Leggman [nh370] Foodahn [nh370] qt [nh370] oh6 [nh370] nabru [nh370] Venzar [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Ardub [spl] Som [dnh] phollenback [fh] every [xnh] Sparky [4k] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] microlance [evil] rsa [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:51 @Pacra, @microlance, you'll want to save/reload 14:51 <@microlance> ok 14:52 !tell aoei there's a fix for evilhack now so you won't see that monster weirdness again, but it doesnt correct what you already found in the zoo. dont mess with the elf zombie that mounted the warg 14:52 No worries, K2, I've got this! 14:52 <@microlance> k2 btw on the wiki it says the brands are mithril, but yesterday i found one laying about on the floor and it was metal. is that intentional? 14:53 yes, i need to update the wiki 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 388 points, T:928, killed by a sewer rat 14:53 i switched its material so orcs could use them 14:53 the brands 14:53 i mean they could anyways but now without needing gloves 14:54 <@microlance> they got a little worse now tho 14:54 yeah they lost the extra +2 damage 14:54 for being mithril 14:54 Can you dual wield brands? 14:54 <@microlance> but as mithril they were more or less longswords 14:55 AntiGulp in evilhack you can dual wield most artifact weapons 14:55 niiiiiiiice 14:55 <@microlance> so i guess its only right they lost the mithril 14:55 exception being lawful and chaotic dont play nice 14:56 <@aoei> Just read the very amusing scrollback. Thanks K2 and AntiGulp! 14:56 @aoei: Message from K2 at 2020-05-13 14:52 EDT: there's a fix for evilhack now so you won't see that monster weirdness again, but it doesnt correct what you already found in the zoo. dont mess with the elf zombie that mounted the warg 14:56 @microlance yeah i thought about that for a bit. i think losing the extra +2 damage is fine if its material agnostic in terms of what players can/cant use without penalty 14:56 @aoei no probs! :) 14:56 yay \o/ 14:57 what i want to do in a later version is refactor METAL to be STEEL 14:57 metal is too generic imo 14:57 and steel is just bad ass 14:58 but... steel rusts 14:58 METAL doesn't 14:58 <@aoei> Might just leave that zoo well alone 14:58 The genericness of “metal” has always felt a little weird 14:58 steel in this case would be stainless 14:58 Have an entire periodic table! "a - a titanium long sword" 14:58 that's the point of METAL 14:58 then why wasnt it called steel 14:58 <@aoei> Maybe it's galvanised steel? 14:58 K2: stainless steel can rust 14:59 some lower quality grades yeah 14:59 we only use the best stainless steel in nethack 14:59 Just add all of the elements. The goblin wields a potassium longsword. The goblin explodes! The orc drinks a potion of helium. The orc floats up, up, and away! 14:59 also, isn't METAL used as a catch all for items with an explicitly named material that isn't worth making a separate in-game material for? 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5858 points, T:2889, killed by an ettin mummy 14:59 e.g. tin whistle 14:59 you dip your sodium long sword into the fountain. your long sword explodes! you die... 15:00 You are now wielding a plutonium long sword. You start mutating uncontrollably! 15:00 aosdict: the beauty of having your own variant is that you can do whatever the fuck you want 15:00 if i wanna change metal to steel, i'll do it 15:01 now u gotta do it or no balls 15:01 i mean, you changed elves to be Q in xnethack... who does that? 15:01 :P 15:01 I call whataboutism 15:02 “The magnesium knife burns. Ouch! You suddenly are no longer able to see!” 15:02 we're not talking about monster glyphs, we're talking about materials 15:02 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02 what about whataboutsim, huh?! 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "foo", on T:4393 15:04 lol 15:04 hmm simpler method, just refer to anything made of METAL as steel 15:04 hell yeah 15:04 that saves me a lot of work 15:04 no even better... 'aosdictium' 15:05 @riker should we introduce K2 to the cosmere and god metals 15:05 <@riker> yes 15:05 “The aosdictium mace sears the K2’s flesh!” 15:06 \o/ 15:06 <@riker> hey k2 ever thought of turning your godlike powers into a cool shiny material? 15:06 i dont have godlike powers 15:06 if i did i wouldnt be playing nethack. i'd be sitting on a beach somewhere drinking a drink that you put goofy garnish in 15:07 that's an awfully mundane use of godlike powers 15:07 but relaxing and fun 15:07 <@riker> ah, I figured you weren't drinking those things due to the diet 15:07 <@riker> not the lack of godlike powers 15:07 <@riker> :) 15:07 if i had godlike powers i wouldnt have to be on a diet :) 15:07 snap my fingers *boom* six pack 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 5226 points, T:4901, killed by a Green-elf 15:09 "You hear someone jump into a saddle." Am I glad that fix is live. ;-) 15:09 seriously, if i somehow had godlike powers, first thing i'd do is wish up having the intelligence and wisdom to know wwhat to do properly with my newfound powers 15:10 THEN i'd go sit on a nice beach somehwere with a mai-tai 15:10 and a laptop with nethack 15:10 ^ that 15:10 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 15:10 "as you utter the final syllables of your wish, you realise that everything is pointless" 15:11 beach time 15:11 "42 really WAS the answer!" 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 648 points, T:1397, killed by a bat 15:14 amateurhour: "welp, better destroy this cruel universe" 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Foodahn (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1192 points, T:2354, killed by a water demon 15:18 <+AntiGulp> Just add all of the elements. The goblin wields a potassium longsword. The goblin explodes! The orc drinks a potion of helium. The orc floats up, up, and away! 15:18 lmao 15:18 and the subsequent tomfoolery 15:19 NeThAcK (NeonThoriumActiniumPotassium) 15:21 got to be done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYW50F42ss8 15:21 Tom Lehrer elements song 15:21 https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/05/the-chemistry-joke-that-got-a-student-suspended/371232/ 15:22 hahaha 15:22 nice touch 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3091 15:23 i want to make that my work email sig 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2600 15:26 Hah, the rogue home level has an ice nymph :-) 15:27 Beryllium Erbium Sulphur 15:27 RIGHT NOW 15:29 this honey crisp apple is so good 15:29 i'm still gonna be hungry dammit 15:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:29 eat some lembas, it's very filling 15:30 want 15:30 prob high in carbs tho 15:33 <@microlance> two water demons from the same fountain but not one of them a good one. ah well i suppose its to be expected when only 12% of them are good guys around here 15:33 They were enjoying a nice dinner 15:33 You prick 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4454 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4454 15:33 YANI: artifact comestible, dwarf bread - while carried you won't ever get more hunger than 'hungry' 15:33 But we already have cram 15:33 :B 15:34 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Dan Inf Fem Cha), 365 points, T:763, killed by an electric shock 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:4520 15:35 it's a Terry Pratchett reference, quote: 'No one ever went hungry when they had some dwarf bread to avoid.' 15:35 YANI: new artifact - The Never-Ending Doughnut - a consumable artifact that one can never really finish. you can eat it when hungry or worse and it will make you not hungry (but never satiated) 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4518 points, T:4959, killed by an owlbear 15:35 can only be fully consumed by a purple worm 15:36 pfft. just remove hunger death 15:36 or, have a never-ending doughnut 15:36 * K2 likes doughnuts 15:36 * amateurhour likes Terry Pratchett references 15:37 * Umbire likes trains 15:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 138989 points, T:25390, killed by a warg, while praying 15:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:37 Oof, Sig… 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:1547 15:38 <@Sig> Death by impatience, lol. I escaped and then thought I could handle it before I actually could. 15:38 :/ 15:38 <@Sig> I probably had an out too, I just forgot about the teleport wand in my bag. 15:38 :( 15:38 death is a cruel teacher 15:39 <@Sig> It is! 15:40 <@microlance> evilhack watchmen dont care about the fountains 15:40 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22987 15:40 amateurhour: YANI: The Dwarf Bread (it'd be better off as an artifact imo) only works if you are carrying no other food bagged or otherwise, and you are allowed to get hungrier than Hungry if there is any comestible you can see on the ground 15:41 <@microlance> just dipped both away with 2 guards in sight and no response 15:41 (I agree it should be an artifact, I said so in the YANI line :^) 15:41 sorry 15:41 What if it got heavier every time it was used? 15:41 what would its base type be 15:41 mineral 15:41 food ration? 15:42 cram. 15:42 rock 15:42 and roll 15:42 Music With Rocks In 15:42 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:42 hah, a bread roll made of rock 15:42 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:23062 15:43 so a cram ration whose material is MINERAL 15:43 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:23065 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:1965 15:43 <@riker> just make it the scone from the pratchett book? 15:43 make sure not to StF it, it'd be a meatball 15:43 nice touch K2, an ice nymph does not show in my infravision. cold blooded. 15:44 :P 15:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:44 @riker that's a large unwieldy bit of rock 15:44 oh yeah there was that scone of stone wasn't there 15:44 though I think dwarf bread is in a few of the books 15:45 how about the Battle Bread of B'hrian Bloodaxe 15:45 <@microlance> nice the dude with the gloves had a dragonhide elven helm 15:45 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:45 (actually in discworld) 15:47 how about randomising the name of the artifact to any of the famous dwarf breads :^) 15:47 this may be getting a *little* too involved :) 15:48 great! so that's the scope sorted, I've informed the client it 15:48 will be done by tomorrow at the latest 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1593 points, T:2558, killed by an orcish arrow 15:48 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 15:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:50 <@Pacra> ah, recovered the bell after 15k turns 15:51 heh 15:51 where was it? 15:55 <@Pacra> retraced all of gehennom, all of vlad, all of main dungeon 15:55 <@Pacra> ludios throne room 15:55 <@Pacra> no charges .__. 15:55 how did that happen? 15:56 <@Pacra> I have no earthly idea 15:56 cancelled 15:56 <@Pacra> maybe croesus fancied it 15:56 what about an astral idea? 15:56 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 15:56 monsters dont know how to use the bell or any other magical method of opening things 15:56 <@Pacra> if you ring the bell on astral it should aggravate every monster 15:57 YANI ^ 15:57 though I'm not sure what good that would be 15:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:58 ringing the bell on astral summons all three riders to your current location 15:58 ^ if cursed 15:59 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1551 16:03 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3149 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3162 16:05 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 16:07 do the probabilities of items have to add up to a particular value? 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 3518 points, T:3289, killed by a watch captain 16:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Inc Mal Law), 922 points, T:508, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:09 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 16:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 11 points, T:91, killed by a boulder 16:11 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 282 points, T:844, killed by a small mimic 16:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:15 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a thoroughly rusty long sword on an altar, on T:3281 16:17 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17 K2 when I kill a shapeshifted chameleon it turns into a chameleon of course, but when I then apply a stethoscope it doesn't say "cancelled". 16:18 and I don't wait around to see if they can still shapeshift, I kill them :-) 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 48854 points, T:8220, killed by an Uruk-hai 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1055 points, T:2689, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:27 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 16:27 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 16:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4194 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:4242 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 39 points, T:139, killed by a bear trap 16:32 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:4912 16:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:41 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:41 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:67347 16:42 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 16:43 <@Pacra> @K2, here's a fun question for you 16:43 <@Pacra> which do you think is currently more difficult 16:43 <@Pacra> regular slashem or eh 16:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44317 16:48 regular slashem is sufficiently unbalanced that you can easily overpower yourself and wipe the floor with everything in the mid to late game 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44325 16:48 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 16:48 <@Pacra> I would say that as a whole though, slashem is much more difficult because of that early game 16:49 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 16:49 <@Pacra> if you want to be truly evil... partially adopt the slashem early game spawns and spawnrates > : ] 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:808 16:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:44509 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant zombie, on T:7260 16:54 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 611 points, T:1485, killed by a manes 16:56 @Pacra I have only played slash'em maybe half a dozen times so i cant say 16:56 you'd have to ask someone who has ascended both for a truly informed answer 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 8596 points, T:8115, killed by an invisible stalker 17:00 mobileuser its because they arent cancelled 17:02 so it is intented that they keep shapeshifting even if killed in shapeshifted form? 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1428 17:04 unless "They cannot change form again once this happens." is implemented in a different way? 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:44891 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:44899 17:05 same way when you 'kill' the form a vampire is shape-shifted into 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law), 416 points, T:1715, killed by a black pudding 17:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1143 points, T:2132, killed by an owlbear 17:06 right, I was wondering because in another game my pet chameleon kept shapeshifting 17:07 even after it was beaten down and reverted back to chameleon? 17:07 yes, many many times 17:07 OMFG 17:07 :P 17:07 ok wiztest time 17:08 I think you tested that back then 17:08 i may have... made an assumption 17:08 if I had a magic whistle I would have tamed a couple by now :-) 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 362 points, T:1056, killed by a succubus 17:11 rofl.. wiztest game, dlvl 1, goblin spawns, i kill it, drops a BoH 17:13 containing a WoW 17:13 ok 1000+ turns in, this chameleon hasnt changed into something else after I killed it original form 17:13 *original shape-shifted form 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 929 points, T:1039, killed by a gnome 17:13 so lets see what happens when its a pet 17:13 yes... 17:15 i tamed the original one, 1000 turns in, nada 17:15 so lets get a tame one from scratch and see 17:16 when you ass*u*me you make an ass out of u and me 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 416 points, T:550, killed by a gnome 17:16 or try taming one when in cat/dog/horse form 17:17 shouldn't matter, I tamed a second one later in cham form and still saw the same behaviour 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:69314 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:69315 17:20 oh K2 maybe you should try save / load instead of just waiting 1000 17:21 ok. so far i havent seen the behavior you've described 17:21 what if a monster kills the chameleon? 17:22 hmm nope 17:22 this is weird 17:22 i cant recreate it (yet) 17:22 nope to me or amateurhour? 17:22 you 17:22 and him 17:22 both 17:22 super weird 17:23 K2 telling us "nope", how unusual ;^) 17:23 if I find a magic whistle I could try again 17:23 ah there we go 17:23 recreated it 17:23 !!!!! 17:23 it might have had to heal some hp before changing 17:23 save/restore did the trick 17:24 oh 17:24 yes that is what I said and you said nope :-) 17:24 well i did do a save/restore when it was tame 17:24 this time it was hostile 17:24 maybe i didnt wait long enough first time 17:24 inb4 you have to have a monster kill it _and_ save/load :^) 17:25 the time it took each time was very erratic in my game 17:25 !rng try to fix this tonight | play some more 3.7 nethack 17:25 K2: play some more 3.7 nethack 17:25 \o/ 17:26 need to create an army of chameleons before K2 fixes this ;-) 17:26 haha, threaten K2 with abusing unsanctioned fun >:^) 17:27 he will feel very uncomfortable playing 3.7 :b 17:28 omg I was about to moan and whinge about it only being tuesday 17:28 <@riker> good thing it's not tuesday 17:29 that's one less work day to worry about 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1158 points, T:3959, killed by a killer bee 17:36 i may leave it as-is 17:36 dunno 17:36 need to think 17:36 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:37 is a bit weird now with the save/reload trick 17:38 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:39 yeah... 17:39 that shouldnt happen honestly 17:39 <@microlance> is beholders good to eat? or will i be disintegrated/stoned or something 17:40 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 17:40 is a gray fungus edible? 17:40 eraserhead97: Message from aosdict at 2020-05-13 00:25 EDT: condolences, I also know the pain of getting unexpectedly one-shot with acid from Kathryn :( 17:40 <@microlance> they were just regular old meat 😦 i was expecting something from them 17:40 <@microlance> yeah gray fungus gives poison res 17:41 thx 17:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43 I am also a member of the "one-shot with acid from Kathryn" club 17:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:43 i just told mini-me she one-shotted another player with spells 17:43 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:43 she's laughing like a maniac 17:44 oh fyi - this behavior you're seeing with chameleons mobileuser, you'd see the same thing with vampies 17:44 in vanilla 17:45 ah the vanilla shield :-) 17:45 in a way its a vanilla 'bug' but this may have been intended for vampires 17:45 and therefore not a bug 17:45 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:45 vanilla shield hah 17:45 with the save/restore thing? 17:45 I'm just wondering if there are other unknown "one-shotters" in evil. Stupid thing is, I had an apron in stash, but there is obviously no way I could've known she has an acid attack. 17:45 yes 17:46 that sounds to me like a vanilla bug then 17:46 well again, maybe it was intended 17:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 17:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:46 i bring this up because this behavior with chameleons, i just added them to part of the shapeshift code that vamps use 17:47 eraserhead97 for example demogorgon has a powerful acid attack 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4572 17:47 @mobileuser thx for warning ^^ 17:47 mobileuser its not techincally an acid attack, its a monster spell all high level spellcaster types can employ 17:47 almost sounds like acid defense is a must-have extrinsic in evil 17:48 well, against certain monsters anyway 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:46790 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:4707 17:48 no wonder I see lots of wishes for Dragonbane 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:46793 17:48 high level spellcaster types 17:48 like K2 said 17:48 so L's too 17:48 different spells I think 17:49 arch lich yeah 17:49 maybe master lich too 17:49 so I had some deteriorated dragonhide in that fatal run yesterday - can I repair by dipping in forge? are the odds good or bad? 17:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 1518 points, T:2070, killed by a gnome lord 17:49 dragonhide isnt metal 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1424 points, T:4909, killed by a magic missile 17:50 oh - only metal weapons and armor? thx 17:50 metal objects 17:50 just use enchant armour 17:50 kk - normal fooproofing - ic 17:50 (confused of course) 17:50 yes 17:51 I am not sure if confused enchant weapon with wielding also works 17:51 it works for bags etc 17:52 it'll work on anything 17:52 well, confused enchant weapon's normal fooproofing for weapons, so I'd think yes 17:53 are you saying confused enchant weapon will work on a bag? 17:53 I didn't know that 17:53 yes 17:53 K2 how can it be intended that save/load behavior is different from long play session behavior? 17:53 good to know for deteriorated BoH 17:54 or to protect it it beforehand before you step in lava by accident 17:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:54 eraserhead97 look under https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Additional_item_changes 17:54 its there 17:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:55 mobileuser i dont have an answer for that 17:55 i'm just speculating 17:56 well only the dev team can answer that for certain :-) 17:56 true 17:56 bed time, see you later! 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 1005 points, T:1802, killed by a giant spider 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:58 cya mobileuser 17:58 gn mobile 18:01 interesting - I accidentally kicked down a shopkeeper's door - luckily, I found a magic harp in the mines - weird thing is, the shopkeeper now wanders the entire level - LoL 18:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 128 points, T:577, killed by a grid bug 18:02 I think they want payment for the door still 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:47199 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:47216 18:05 \o/ 18:05 Hoorah 18:06 @Umbire - oh, ic - thx 18:06 NAOrsa wooot 18:07 Though they're peaceful so idk if throwing the gold at them angers them 18:07 Or if chatting would 18:07 Could try [p] to pay that way 18:09 I declare my first wish shall be iron gauntlets of strength +25 <3 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3319028 points, T:47295, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sluggoman/nethack/dumplog/1588913335.nh.html 18:16 GG! 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2696 points, T:3188, poisoned by a bone orcish arrow 18:19 rip ;_; 18:20 -!- NAOrsa has quit [Quit: öitö] 18:20 D:! 18:27 mmmmmm 18:27 NO 18:27 Fucking cross-game cockup cascade 18:28 NP, tried to stack 3 BoH with 14 sacks. Fristy. Have another try but gems are gone 18:30 Umbire: it's karma balancing out from sluggoman's win 18:34 I like this cool shop with lava as walls - it had a fountain next to the lava wall - which reminds me of an early YASD where I tried to pickaxe that type of fountain to create pools for dipping... 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1102 points, T:2498, killed by a hill orc 18:38 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 18:40 well, that was interesting - a G wizard casted a cone of cold inside a friendly temple (with priest) 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3555 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3991 19:06 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Mer Nbn Neu), 421 points, T:530, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1748 points, T:4034, killed by a rothe 19:07 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Sam Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4819 19:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3087 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3329 19:32 <@riker> "a wand called invisibility" 1 ID later, "an uncursed wand of cancellation (0:2)" 19:32 <@riker> i am very glad I fully ID'd before I self zapped 19:33 Very good 19:34 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:37 [hdf-us] [fh] rianni (xor) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 27831 points, T:688, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 19:38 <@microlance> a plains centaur, riding a plains centaur. if they can do it why cant the player? 19:39 <@riker> that sounds like a bug 19:39 No, that sounds like indecency 19:39 At least find a closet 19:40 <@microlance> they were doing it bareback even 19:41 * Umbire retches and calls the Keystone Kops 19:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+3 greased blue dragon scale mail", on T:1864 19:45 a plains centaur riding a plains centaur riding a plains centaur riding a plains centaur... 19:45 it's plains centaurs all the way down 19:48 <@Sig> Forgot to wish for it blessed, so now it's cursed 19:48 <@riker> could be worse 19:48 <@Sig> Not that I really need to take it off, but 19:48 <@riker> could be cursed -3 19:48 <@Sig> Lol 19:49 <@riker> I had a vampire who found a blessed magic lamp 2 squares from the upstairs of dlvl 1 19:49 <@riker> vamps start with -1 luck 19:49 <@Sig> oh no 19:49 <@riker> enter cursed -3 tie dye, and this was before weldprooding iirc 19:50 LOL 19:56 <@Sig> Lol 19:56 <@Sig> Your pack shakes violently! I just picked up a bag what does this mean 19:57 orcish spear of lightning is nasty 19:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2257 19:59 That's normally "harmless" text from a magic trap 19:59 But it's dNet so idk what/if anything's changed specifically there 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 88 points, T:356, killed by a sewer rat 19:59 [hdf-us] [spl] xor (Mon Gul Fem Neu), 638 points, T:827, done in by a hobbit 20:00 <@riker> magic trap, no change 20:02 lol a plains centaur riding a plains centaur 20:02 that's freakin awesome 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:69365 20:03 @microlance hahah 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 714 points, T:1318, killed by an invisible hill orc 20:06 <@Sig> Alright, ty 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:69616 20:08 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2218 points, T:3358, killed by a wolf 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 394 points, T:1248, killed by Ms. Ennistymon; the shopkeeper 20:14 K2: not exactly the same but https://i.imgflip.com/qkxxc.png 20:15 lol 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:69856 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:69858 20:22 [hdf-us] [spl] xor (Val Mer Nbn Law), 765 points, T:1485, dismembered by a myconid warrior 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 126 points, T:663, killed by a boulder 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:70367 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 299 points, T:1031, killed by a giant bat 20:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Sam Hlf Mal Law) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:16104 20:34 <@riker> \o/ 20:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Sam Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding named antigulp's monster steed bug collection", on T:16302 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:70519 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Geryon, on T:70538 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 252 points, T:817, killed by a coyote 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 7 points, T:104, killed by a water moccasin 20:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Sam Hlf Mal Law), 296053 points, T:17694, killed by a soldier 20:46 <@riker> damn bugles 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Foodahn (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2369 20:51 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 390 points, T:1278, killed by a water moccasin 20:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 169 points, T:325, killed by a gnome lord 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2965 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 391 points, T:1009, killed by a sewer rat 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1317 points, T:3197, killed by a gnome king 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3128 20:59 <@microlance> you cant saddle centaur sergeants 😦 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3134 21:00 heh 21:01 centaur sergeants are @ therefore they're in S_HUMAN therefore they're humans therefore they can't be saddled 21:02 idk why they're not C 21:03 racial monster quirks 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1062 points, T:1138, killed by a dwarf, while dressing up 21:06 its because all solder types are depicted as @ regardless of race 21:06 soldier 21:06 the military doesnt discriminate 21:06 (at least not like they used to) 21:07 that does leave it open to quirks where obviously non-human monsters will be treated like they are though 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 4039 points, T:4431, killed by a touch of death 21:09 quirks abound 21:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:12 <@microlance> i expected it to be unsaddleable, but i was hoping. i have gathered quite the set of equipment for my future horseperson 21:13 Hachi drops a cream pie. Hachi picks up a cream pie.... there goes another pet. 21:14 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1349 points, T:2388, killed by a gold golem, while unconscious from rotten food 21:28 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6ced7ef4c65fa7247c2186b0075c2ef8e521e9ee 21:29 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 235 points, T:563, killed by a gnome lord 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:11, killed by a land mine 21:34 -!- eraserhead9787 has joined #hardfought 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:327 21:39 damn - nice early wish - lamp? 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4480 points, T:5678, killed by a Woodland-elf 21:48 <@Tone> My money's on fountain 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1940 points, T:1843, killed by a poisonous corpse 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:72072 22:00 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:72072 22:01 go @Pacra go! 22:01 bwahah I re-created the centaur mounting another centaur thing.... so hilarious 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh343] billum (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 797 points, T:211, killed by a dwarf 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:72137 22:03 <@Pacra> I figured that would happen, planned for it 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1473 points, T:1955, killed by an Uruk-hai 22:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:72280 22:13 <@microlance> i think i read on the wiki the helmet trick leads to "bad things" or such on the wiki page 22:13 <@microlance> in eh 22:14 it can 22:15 not always 22:15 oods are still in the players favor 22:19 !lotg @Pacra 22:19 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, @Pacra! 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the White Horse, on T:72447 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:72449 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3785 22:28 <@Pacra> You miss Paul the invisible Voyager. You miss Paul the invisible Voyager. Paul the invisible Voyager steals the uncursed Amulet of Yendor named REALL! You hear a nearby zap. 22:28 <@Pacra> oh no 22:28 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 22:28 <@Pacra> he teleported away 22:28 <@Pacra> I cant find him via telepathy 22:30 <@Pacra> oh ok 22:30 whew 22:30 <@Pacra> he didn't teleport ;] 22:30 <@Pacra> that would have been hilarious 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:72542 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:72545 22:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) was given the Rod of Lordly Might, on T:2983 22:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:72571 22:35 <@Pacra> this doesn't look good folks 22:36 -!- shadowcat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 22:37 ooof that was close 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 5727 points, T:5105, killed by a bolt of fire 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3197 22:38 gah you have all three riders on your ass 22:38 :/ 22:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law), 3102565 points, T:72589, killed by Death (with the Amulet), while fainted from lack of food 22:38 <@Pacra> they just zeroed in on me immediately 22:38 damn 22:39 <@Pacra> and I was in the worst possible position, they basically had me stunlocked 22:39 <@Pacra> rip 22:39 multiple riders? 22:39 <@Pacra> lessons for next time 22:39 <@Pacra> all 3 riders 22:39 yeah all 3 attacking him at same time 22:39 <@Pacra> pestilence followed me from the first altar I checked 22:39 one was still on its horse too 22:39 did u have conflict? 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3329 22:39 <@Pacra> and somehow famine made their way over immediately as I went to the next altar, on their horse 22:40 usually peons will do some blocking if they're occupied - so nasty 22:40 <@Pacra> yes, conflict was on the entire time 22:40 i havent seen anyone get triple teamed like that in... I dunno when 22:40 <@Pacra> peons gladly stepped aside 22:40 <@Pacra> ah well 22:40 well no shame in that death at all 22:40 oh - was evil - scary 22:40 that was rough 22:40 <@Pacra> I really needed to be one square over, but couldn't make it. should have kept a better eye on what Famine was doing 22:40 do riders have more HP in evil? 22:42 <@Pacra> i feel like everything has more hp in evil :9 22:42 yeah but its not crazy over the top 22:43 so it's other "features" that make 'em nasty 22:43 oh, iirc, they actually are riding steeds? 22:43 yes 22:43 DAMN 22:43 that's the major buff to the riders... they actually ride 22:45 @Pacra that was a great effort, we were rooting for ya 22:46 brb 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Cen Mal Cha), 340 points, T:367, killed by a wererat 22:46 <@Pacra> rip 22:47 <@Pacra> thanks k2 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3541 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 202 arrows on an altar, on T:3544 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3553 22:49 wtf - ToD 22:49 I fixed the plains centaur mounting another plains centuar thing, just isnt live let 22:49 on Dlvl:8 by alhoon 22:50 chameleon probably, or bones level gone bad 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 15583 points, T:9728, killed by a touch of death 22:51 *yet 22:51 !last eraserhead97 22:52 !lastgame eraserhead97 22:52 eraserhead9787: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/evilhack/dumplog/1589408355.evil.html 22:52 abandoned shop 22:52 yeah, bones level that went horribly wrong 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3370 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3386 22:53 oh wait nm 22:53 you tried to pay something? :) 22:54 what happens if a chameleon transforms into a shambling horror 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:4593 22:55 no, I just alto moved (capital letters) and got shafted in "one round" - didn't even have a chance to see what happened 22:55 just died 22:55 s/alto/auto 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3682 22:56 aosdict: shambler is nopoly 22:57 at least it happened at a relatively early Xp:9 - sucks when senseless deaths happen in lategame 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3721 23:00 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 23:00 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4275 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4353 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4440 23:07 other than Mine town and experience, is there any reason to go through the mines? 23:08 I found a luckstone on level 1 and have just gone shopping for my candles. 23:09 gain more experience killing monsters deeper in the mines 23:09 depending on mines end, potential for more loot 23:19 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:20 gnite all 23:20 <{Demo}1> good night 23:20 <@riker> night k2! 23:21 night! 23:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) was given Tensa Zangetsu, on T:3580 23:25 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:25 <@riker> oh congrats a completely useless artifact 23:25 <@riker> oh congrats a completely useless artifact 23:27 <@Sig> I was just trying to reset prayer timeout 23:27 <@Sig> Do I only get the half spell if I wield it? 23:29 YANI: zapping a wand causes you to touch it, causing material effects unless wearing gloves 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6657 23:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:30 <@Sig> > +1 move per turn That actually sounds pretty- > Drains 10 nutrition per turn > Deals 5 damage a turn and reduces max HP by 1 a turn Ah 23:31 <@Sig> What does "Allows moving 12x as fast for multi-tile movements" even mean? Jumping buys me extra turns? 23:33 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 23:34 <@riker> nope 23:34 <@riker> physically moving only counts as 1 movement point (down from 12) 23:34 <@riker> normally a default-speed dude has 12 speed, and tensa means that lets you make 12 moves (NOT attacks/etc., only physically moving to a new tile by walking) 23:35 <@riker> it's also worth noting that it does NOT include dropping items, casting spells, jumping, etc. 23:35 <@riker> it's amazing in some specific niche situations (and i think it used to be super nice on astral, dunno if it still is) but useless otherwise 23:36 <@Sig> Interesting 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8018 23:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:48 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:10790