00:08 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:15 having fun there? 00:18 NetHack Physics 101 seems to be going poorly. 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 220 points, T:427, killed by a bear trap 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:67421 00:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:38272 00:34 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:67595 00:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:39194 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided gremlins, on T:67646 00:39 [hdf-us] [slex] murgatroid99 (Zyb Asg Mal Law) killed the human mummy of tkirkby, the former Summer Intern, on T:1143 00:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39333 00:40 [hdf-us] [slex] murgatroid99 (Zyb Asg Mal Law), 1605 points, T:1184, killed by a monster (desatunculus) 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:67796 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:67808 00:51 !who 00:51 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [ndnh] Bliss56 [nh370] Karnac [nh370] rikersan [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] | [hdf-au] omghax [spl] 00:51 !whereis omghax 00:51 K2: [hdf-au] omghax [spl]: (Dra Dro Mal Neu) T:4 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:52 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 00:52 ^ new version, 0.7.1 00:53 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 00:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Graz'zt, on T:41554 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:67859 00:57 <@riker> > & a major demon (Pale Night, a large thing) [seen: warned of Pale Nights] 00:57 <@riker> message gore much 00:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed 3 potions of restore ability", on T:42056 00:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Glasya, on T:42106 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3435432 points, T:67875, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1589048843.nh.html 01:01 woo congrats Bliss56 01:04 GG! 01:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42897 01:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42951 01:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:04 <@microlance> my dragon stole my sceptre 02:05 <@microlance> or he disintegrated it, should probably try to put him down and see if he has it 02:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:16 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:21 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:21 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:34 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:39 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:39 microlance?? 02:40 what happened? 02:51 !lastgame microlance 02:51 K2: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1589251988.evil.html 02:52 i dont get it 02:53 !who 02:53 K2: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 02:54 backscrolling, I think he lost his sceptre artifact 02:55 i thought he had a pet black dragon though 02:55 yeah, it seems that caused some kind of problem 02:55 a pet black dragon wouldnt destroy any object unless you purposely hit it with one 02:56 @microlance what happened exactly? 02:57 maybe conflict? 02:57 perhaps 02:57 backscroll: "my dragon stole my sceptre" 02:57 well he didnt know for sure 02:57 <@microlance> i may have had conflict on, and i was about to die when it says i killed the shaman so i teleported away 02:58 <@microlance> my black dragon must have gotten the kill 02:58 <@microlance> maybe karnov hit him and disintegrated it 02:58 oooh 02:58 did karnov steal your sceptre and use it? 02:58 <@microlance> cos my dragon was not carrying it i killed him to check 02:58 so the shaman wielded the sceptre? 02:58 <@microlance> he shouldnt have 02:59 <@microlance> maybe the dragon destroyed it with the breath 02:59 why not? 02:59 <@microlance> i dont know 02:59 no that wouldnt happen, only worn armor 02:59 (breath) 02:59 but... why quit? :( 02:59 <@microlance> i couldnt find it atleast, he might have fallen down to the big room and died there 03:00 <@microlance> and too much stuff spawned and it got removed 03:00 huh 03:00 <@microlance> i got a bit tilted after looking for 4k turns and destroying some of my weapons on my black dragon 03:00 :/ 03:01 you have to admit though, this is very nethack-y 03:01 <@microlance> ive noticed items dissappear when they start too piile up hard 03:01 <@microlance> yeah, i really shouldnt have quit as i was still in a very good situation. i could have gotten crowned pretty quickly there and gone with mjollnir 03:02 nemesis steals your weapon, attacks with it and destroys it because of your choice of pet - total nethackish 03:02 oh man 03:02 !booze @microlance 03:02 * Beholder hands @microlance a tumbler of the sauce, fermented by the /dev/null/oracle at 97 degrees Fahrenheit. 03:02 K2 why are you awake ;-) 03:02 3 am or something? 03:03 chasing down a couple errors with the zscore pages for splicehack and notdnethack (just fixed them a few min ago) 03:03 yeah 3:03am 03:03 dedication 03:04 foolish more like it :) 03:04 heh 03:04 on that note - gnite all o/ 03:04 sleep well! 03:19 "Your sacrifice is consumed in a burst of flame! Kos seems mollified." FINALLY 03:19 assert dominance and annoy them again 03:20 anger your god day was yesterday 03:20 today is altar camping day ;-) 03:22 but I really need a unihorn first, those black hallu lights are dangerous if you can't tell which monster is "friendly" juiblex 03:26 <@Foodahn> is Hardfought the 'place to play' nowadays? I'm new to the game and NAO for some reason is not saving my options and rc file and/or sometimes it will randomly change them 03:28 that's really odd 03:29 NAO is still more active probably, but hardfought has bleeding edge 3.7 and variants and a server in the EU, so for me it is the 'place to play' 03:31 <@Foodahn> fair enough. yeah nao is bein weird.. like I can't edit my rc via the actual site too often (usually it'll say like I don't have a file) though ironically when i just tried to edit the config it'll let me edit and save it. 03:32 <@Foodahn> for example some games I'll have to explicit confirm YES or NO when i move towards a shopkeeper instead of simple y/n ... sometimes I have to 'o'pen doors and sometimes I won't.... sometimes it asks if i want to identify possessions etc etc etc 03:34 K2 is also admin on nao, you could ask him there. 03:42 he's just headed to sleep but he's usually on in like 5h from now 03:42 <@Foodahn> it's all good... i'm not super worried about it... thank yall though 03:44 <@Foodahn> i'm almost certain there's some weird option or something i'm doing wrong....... i'm not familiar with playin via SSH and only really played DCSS online, and for that I copied someone elses RC file... so.... it's likely on me 03:47 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:08 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:15 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 04:35 -!- murphy_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:36 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 04:53 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 05:01 interesting: on Dlvl:25[EVIL] - I walk through a magic portal "You arrive in a frozen, barren wasteland." and I'm freezing to death. 05:01 it's a new optional dungeon branch 05:01 it's pretty neat 05:02 there's multiple lvls? I think I need some cold resistance or gonna die to DoT 05:02 yeah there's 3 or so, and yeah definitely get cold resistance first 05:03 yeah - I'm losing 3HP per step - thx 05:05 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:05 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 05:05 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:08 hmm... ...wondering if /oCancellation will work on a Silver D (or will it get reflected)... 05:09 I think cancellation is a beam and not a ray 05:09 so I think you're okay 05:09 but try it for science 05:09 interesting - he's jailed - ok - will try 05:10 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:10 he's completely in a 3x3 jail cell! 05:11 prolly need acid for bars or some other way to get at him 05:11 oh right, that's one of the theme rooms I suppose 05:11 yes potion of acid works 05:11 I think only their breath gets cancelled 05:12 this is a bizarro scenario for me - I'm only a Xp:11 HP:84 AC:-24 Wiz 05:12 their scales keep doing their thing 05:12 not sure how I'm going to hit him with gimpy daggers and only Cone of Cold and MM as my attacks (worthless) 05:12 MMF pet may not be high enough to eat his brains 05:13 master? I would think that is high enough level. 05:13 I'm kindof in a sucky lull now between Xp:11 and Xp:14 - can't do quest and can't go beyond Xp:25 or so 05:13 kk - will try 05:14 MMF: 19 dragon: 20 05:14 nice - TY 05:14 lemme check energy vortex pet 05:15 wimpy 6 - he's prolly gonna wake up silver D 05:15 going between bars 05:17 silver DSM provides cold resistance, nice 05:19 ya - I basically can't touch him 05:19 is -24 AC not good enough or something? 05:19 my weapons are mithril and silver daggers as a Wiz 05:20 I don't think I can take out a silver D in EVIL (I haven't been able to get MB) 05:21 basically, I gotta keep dodging and home that MMF can suck his brains 05:21 have a wand of digging ready in case you get engulfed 05:21 I feel like that'd be okay, wand of digging out if engulfed for big damage, and double team them 05:21 have no acid - so gotta liberate him with /oTeleportation 05:22 hmm perhaps go looking for potion of acid first? 05:23 if the thing is still sleeping MMF could then safely attack it 05:23 acid on Dlvl:10 stash lvl - prolly worth a run back to grab /oDigging for escape 05:23 thx guys ^^ 05:23 cheers, gl! 05:24 I also have plenty of /oUT to revive any corpses should scales not drop (I do this in 'nilla with strong melee toons, not sure if I can pull off here) 05:24 running back to camp - brb 05:25 SDSM would help (shield of reflection inhibits casting) 05:26 any body armour except crystal inhibits casting a bit, but not as much as a shield 05:26 and the cold resistance from SDSM will let you try the optional branch 05:27 oh - good point - I didn't know about the cold resistance - is that a 2ndary effect? 05:27 yes 05:27 coolios 05:27 wiki has a nice table of all the secondary effects 05:28 (evilhack page I mean) 05:29 ya - resistance decay in EVIL is forcing me to keep rings of resistances around 05:29 resistance decay? 05:30 what do you mean? 05:30 non-permanent resistances 05:30 ???? 05:30 most resistances are permanent, but can be partial 05:30 ah - I misunderstood 05:30 they keep accumulating? 05:30 just partially? 05:30 if you keep eating you will reach 100% 05:31 or get crowned 05:31 kk - I'll monitor using enlightenment then - thx for tip 05:31 can you get permanent see invisible from magic traps? 05:32 yes 05:32 you can also lose it that way 05:32 I didn't know that - I think I got permanent invisibility from a MT 05:32 MT? 05:32 <@Foodahn> novice question that isn't coming up on google: my pet turned into a tripe ration...... what happened here? 05:32 they ate a mimic corpse Foodahn probably 05:32 <@Foodahn> ah shit 05:33 just search it 05:33 they'll turn back when they've finished eating 05:33 magic trap 05:33 it will reveal itself as a pet again 05:33 <@Foodahn> gotcha 05:33 <@Foodahn> ty 05:33 ah magic trap 05:33 bit of a lottery 05:34 it can toggle invis or see invis 05:34 bit hard to keep both :-) 05:36 btw, is a blessed pot of see invisible permanent or not in EVIL? 05:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:25422 05:37 <@Foodahn> okay hopefully last dumb newbie question: once a longsword rusts in a fountain, can it still turn into excalibur? 05:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bag containing 23 items on an altar, on T:5260 05:37 @Foodahn - if you're playing 'nilla, yes 05:37 in other variants (eg EVIL), it can disintegrate 05:39 <@Foodahn> the first time I ever tried to dip one into a fountain, it worked. and since then i've basically totally destroyed 3 seperate longswords..... luck is not with me 05:40 just keep dipping the rusty one! 05:40 that's typical - 1/6 chance per dip - I often end up dipping at Oracle 05:41 heh I once had a game on NAO where I depleted every fountain to like dlvl 10 getting excalibur 05:41 fountainbane 05:41 asked people to check if I was doing anything wrong, I wasn't, it was just sheer unluck 05:41 amateurhour, destroyer of fountains 05:42 <@Foodahn> i'm familiar with that title 05:42 I'm still learning how to work around NOT having easy(er) access to arti-weapons (eg. Cali, Stormy) in EVIL 05:42 in 'nilla, I just go after those 2 arti's if I'm not Neutral 05:43 <@Foodahn> so if the longsword got cursed ... it can still be dipped i assume? 05:43 yes 05:43 <@Foodahn> i have no idea how it got cursed... the founttain i guess 05:43 <@Foodahn> cool 05:43 yes keep dipping 05:43 fountain can curse 05:43 or uncurse 05:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Foodahn (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3077 05:43 ayy 05:43 <@Foodahn> fuckin got'em yay 05:44 congrats :-) 05:44 <@Foodahn> thanks guys... let me just touch this weird bird real quick 05:44 ya - cali is so good you can ascend with it 05:44 don't need any other arti-weapon 05:44 tbh you don't even need an artifact weapon really 05:44 in vanilla 05:44 eraserhead97 - I haven't played wizard in evil yet BUT 05:44 hehe - your skills are beyond mine 05:45 <@Foodahn> dude i've played this game for about a day and a half... i'm under no illusions i'm gonna make it far 05:45 not with that attitude Foodahn! each death gives nethack experience 05:45 Wiz in EVIL's painful without MB - I've just been doing pets 05:45 the non-artifact weapons I get from an evil altar are enchanted and fooproof 05:46 so usually good enough for the early stage 05:46 <@Foodahn> losing is fun! (tiny lil tm here) 05:46 and I can't get to Dlvl:14 for Quest 05:46 aim for minetown first, then aim for sokoban imo 05:46 usually with MB, I can go to VotD first 05:47 everything's pretty much cleared to Dlvl:25, but with MMF so my Xp's gimped at 11 05:47 basically, I have a gimped Wiz 05:47 playing evilhack often requires different strategies to vanilla 05:47 yeah - that' what I'm trying to figure out atm 05:48 figure that evil's forcing me to play corner strategies that I would normally not do 05:48 or rather, evil's not giving me easy go-to strategies that 'nilla does 05:49 yup, it's evil :-) 05:49 and if you do find an easy go-to strategy K2 will nerf it :b 05:49 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:50 lol - I get that feeling 05:50 I suspect he scans the evil scoreboards from time-to-time to make sure you don't get a clumping of wins 05:51 with some particular race/role combo 05:51 it's even simpler 05:51 we like to brag about our ideas 05:52 he just reads along and takes notes ;-) 05:52 we don't even get the opportunity to use most of them, he's too fast 05:52 but part of the fun (a big part) is using tricky ideas to win 05:52 tricky is something else 05:52 the bad thing is to just depend on a few of them 05:52 at the expense of exploring other tricks 05:52 at least some of the 200iq ideas are still around, just nerfed a little 05:53 I quite like the 'purple rain' and 'black rain' strategies for the astral plane 05:53 what are those about? related to purple worms? 05:53 never done it myself or anything, but it was really cool to hear about 05:54 black rain = rev gen black dragons 05:54 yeah you'd reverse genocide purple worms, tame them, break a wand of tele 05:54 and your worms/dragons would go around killing everything 05:54 ah - revgeno purple worms on astral's fun - if you can keep them alive long enough 05:54 they go down pretty fast 05:54 that's partly why you'd break the wand, to scatter them around 05:55 black dragons are possibly superior anyway in evilhack 05:55 I got BDSM once in EVIL off an NPC - having passive disintegration's quite fun 05:56 plus handy if you meet black dragons 05:56 hehe - true dat 05:56 need to eat two of them to feel safe 05:57 ah - good tip 05:57 I'm surprised noone's done vegan in evilhack yet 05:57 w/monk should be doable 05:57 I see K2 has done vegetarian 05:57 yeah and people altar farm and aim to get crowned 05:58 that's smart - I think I've only succeeded in getting crowned once 06:00 woo - honey badger - LoL 06:05 ok MMF took out silver D - but no drop 06:05 gonna revive 06:05 I'm bound by /oCancellation charges (5) 06:06 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:07 damn - dragon has engulfing attack? didn't know that 8^P 06:07 wand of digging or tele? 06:08 wand of digging 06:08 we told ya :-) 06:09 digging worked - TY ^^ 06:09 it does quite a good chunk of damage to it as well 06:09 not as much as it used to (thanks L3) 06:10 but still a really nice amount 06:10 2nd D no drop - trying again after I get my HP up a little 06:10 not sure but does reviving influence scale chances? 06:11 yes 06:11 it decreases 06:11 by a lot 06:11 but if you have enough turn undead charges, you can still usually get a drop 06:11 ah thx 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Foodahn (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3726 06:11 in my case, I'm prolly bound by cancellation charges 06:12 lucky thing is energy vortex and MMF pets don't eat corpses 06:12 wiki says it's 1/20 if they've been revived 06:12 that doesn't seem worth the effort :| 06:12 that's right - so usually takes like 10 tries or so 06:12 I'm desperate (in evil) 06:13 in vanilla I once tried to get an MMF to astral, but it died on the water plane because of a vanilla bug (since fixed) 06:14 3rd failed 06:14 oh - you can get an MMF all the way there? sounds promising! 06:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Knight, on T:29311 06:16 4th failed - trying to get by without using cancellation 06:17 it's been a while, I think I equipped the MMF with lots of cool stuff 06:18 5th failed - this MMF originated from a Schroedinger's Cat walking onto a PT - I've renamed her Schroedinger's Squid 06:18 hah! nice 06:20 6th failed - fwiw, takes MMF about 4 tries to take him out 06:21 7th failed 06:22 8th failed 06:22 sod's law says you don't manage to get it till your final zap 06:22 and you walk down to next floor and see another dragon 06:24 hehe - that'd be anti-evilhack (at least for dragon-farming purposes) 06:26 9th failed - think this is easier in a big room - rather than in a passageway 06:26 <@Foodahn> so in vanilla... in a shop I've got I could buy for 178 gold.. which i would assume means it's Light...... but then I can buy a scroll for 89 gold... which is way less than the wiki tells me should be possible... wtf 06:26 <@Foodahn> omg nvm i'm looking at the wands section of the wiki 06:27 10th failed 06:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:28 11th failed 06:29 12th failed 06:30 13th failed - 6 charges left 06:30 14th failed 06:31 15th failed 06:34 16th failed - no corpse drop - just a mob of orcs spawned - oh well... 06:35 [hdf-us] [slex] Purrloin(musicdemon) (Pok Fel Fem Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:18415 06:36 well - a friendly MF spawned - going back to camp to grab a ?oTaming to see if I can get 2nd pet 06:38 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 06:45 npc Lilliana the Vagrant (human cavewoman, wearing armor, wielding a sling) 06:47 crappy drops 06:49 don't forget to eat Foodahn 06:49 Food, Dan! 06:49 Anne* 06:49 damn 06:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Foodahn (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3871 points, T:4628, quit 06:51 quit? :O 06:52 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:05 woohoo - sea dragon scales!!! no silver, but better than nothin' 07:05 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 07:05 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:11 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:23 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 484 points, T:2669, killed by a little dog 07:56 <@Pacra> haha, the notdnethack last sokoban level 07:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 865 points, T:2608, killed by a dwarf 07:57 what's it like? 07:58 very strange - lost my MMF pet - not sure what happened - I was dipping in shallow waters and couldn't find him or a corpse - maybe stepped onto levelport? 07:58 yeah or down a trapdoor 07:59 yup - that was it down to Dlvl 14 - whew - found him before he went feral - I think you're right - must be a trapdoor 07:59 a feral MMF would be nasty 08:00 uh, oh - only Peaceful - not tame any more - I think I'm screwed 08:00 gonna have to find a geno scroll 08:01 wonder how long before peaceful goes feral 08:02 I may have to euthanize him with an unreliable rubber chicken 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 636 points, T:1119, killed by a wand 08:04 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 08:05 <@microlance> before he turns to stone he will take all your spells and skills 08:06 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:06 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 08:06 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:10 that's true - I think I'm in big trouble - he's on Dlvl:14 - I just read in the wiki "A pet that becomes unleashed by a trap (level teleport, trap door, hole, etc.) loses 1 point of tameness." 08:11 it must've been a teleport trap as MMFs would fly over a trapdoor 08:12 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 08:12 apparently "Monsters that do not eat are difficult to keep tame. Do not abuse them or leave them on other dungeon levels." because eating's necessary to incrase tameness 08:14 I could attempt to polymorph him, but I think they have high MR 08:15 if I can get a hit in, maybe I can teleport him away and delay enuf turns for him to stiffen 08:16 gonna go for it 08:18 maybe I should cancel him first - ok - gonna take a break and figure out options 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3434 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2748 points, T:3540, killed by a soldier ant 08:26 did you check if he was actually feral? 08:28 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 08:32 if it was peaceful it won't turn hostile eraserhead97 08:33 unless you anger it of course 08:34 BTW mind flayers fly, so it must have been a level teleport trap, not a trapdoor 08:34 oh yeah good point 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 861 points, T:3053, killed by a werejackal 08:37 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 384 points, T:1502, killed by a horse called Grib 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 201 points, T:537, killed by a boulder 08:46 i nerf a few things, get labelled as wanting to nerf everything :) 08:46 i'll just take back dual-wielding artifact weapons... 08:46 :P 08:46 * K2 makes a new artifact: the Nerf Bat™ 08:50 Hi K2! 08:51 o/ 08:51 hehehe 08:51 I did say you nerf the *easy* ideas ;-) 08:51 :) 08:52 @Foodahn if you're editing your config with the web-based editor on NAO, you have to start a game first under your login before you can edit it. were you using the web editor or the one via the dgl menu? 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1254 points, T:2634, killed by an ape 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 352 points, T:470, killed by a dwarf 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2231 09:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:06 wait - so I don't need to take out this MMF? can a peaceful MMF turn feral without my attacking it or using conflict? 09:10 a pet can turn feral OR peaceful when abandoned for too long, 09:11 if peaceful it's just like any peaceful monster 09:11 it won't turn hostile unless provoked 09:11 ic TY ^^ 09:15 damn i didn't see that coming 09:15 @K2 imho, the most painful parts of EVIL (so far) are 1. the difficulty of getting arti-weapons and 2. no chance of getting MM from drops (not complaining - just trying to learn how to get around these constraints) 09:16 the marker change means I'll probably try for the tool every time at sokoban 100% 09:16 most of my markers come from wishes anyway in vanilla 09:16 but that and the high priest of Moloch's marker will help massively 09:16 for this run, I have a stack of like 6-7 shields of reflection, but I'm having a hard time getting a good weapon (2 blessed magic lamps yielded no wishes) 09:17 anyhow, I'm only 1/3 thru - haven't gotten past any castle levels yet in evil 09:18 aoei: I usually go for the amulet 09:18 that's a good idea. that'll help keep you alive 09:18 ignore my previous comment 100% 09:18 on magic marker - wands of poly are much much more plentiful in eh 09:18 amulet of magic resistance is the only way for giants to get non-artifact MR 09:18 so I end up plying scrolls 09:18 I think 09:19 *polying 09:19 yeah and both amulets are guaranteed to be awesome unless you're lucky and already have MR or reflection 09:19 or are a wizard 09:19 yeah - I like polypiling, too, but for WIZs, MM>poly 09:19 hey K2 I _love_ being able to polypile a lot more, it's _so_ fun and not overpowered 09:19 mobileuser: >;^) 09:19 hush keep it down amateurhour 09:20 he might have missed it 09:20 * aoei hides 09:21 it's fine amateurhour as long as you don't mention altar camping 09:21 oh oops... 09:21 hmmmm should I keep splatting illithid wizards or try a fighter class? 09:21 nothing wrong with either 09:21 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:22 !rng illithWiz | illithPri | fighter | ranger 09:22 aoei: illithWiz 09:22 rng says illithWiz again! 09:22 oh neat, started with +oDM 09:23