00:05 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 00:29 bypass the invocation? who did that? 00:30 I'm aware of "we broke the invocation so if you get there we'll just consider it as good as won" 00:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:55 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 00:56 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:03 aosdict: In early evilhack K2 failed to generate the VS... if you kept going downstairs you'd eventually arrive at the sanctum. 01:04 Demo was the one who found it. 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:3661 01:24 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 hex dragon scale mail", on T:4072 01:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4633 01:29 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 01:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 01:30 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:36 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4766 01:50 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5345 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6230 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:6884 02:09 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed Holographic Void Lily", on T:5671 02:10 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:7448 02:22 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) had Serpent's Tongue bestowed upon him by Set, on T:6266 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7428 points, T:8081, killed by a mumak 02:36 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1198 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Val Hum Fem Law), 1498 points, T:2066, killed by a water moccasin 03:20 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:20 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:20 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:46 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:11 -!- math_ has joined #hardfought 04:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:13 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11914 04:14 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:15 -!- TheWolf has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:15 -!- math has quit [*.net *.split] 04:16 -!- TheWolf_ has joined #hardfought 04:28 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:28 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 04:28 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:13633 04:38 -!- oh6_ has joined #hardfought 04:38 -!- oh6_ is now known as oh6 04:51 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 05:00 -!- waesum has joined #hardfought 05:00 crapola - angered god in evil... ...and I can't find a co-aligned altar 8^P 05:02 wonder if a pet ettin mummy can take out minetown priest... 05:04 would he even attack? its some level difference 05:05 how much did you level it 05:05 I'm not sure - but he did aggro the priest - I didn't pay attention to see if any swings hit 05:06 I'd rather not lose him, cause I'm just a squishy wiz... ...hmm... 05:06 it's base lvl 7 vs 12 05:06 that's not enough - thx 05:06 too risky 05:06 though I have a wand of cancellation that can level the odds 05:07 but I'd prolly take a lightning bolt from the gods (no reflection, no good) 05:07 the priests weapon is 4d10 though 05:08 ya - I have no stetho to check stats 05:08 did you finish mines yet 05:08 if you really want the priest dead maybe you could do that on the way back up 05:09 that sounds like a plan - TY 05:09 why did you want to kill him anyway 05:10 for the altar? 05:10 I found my old bones, but I have no co-aligned altar (also, I've pissed off da boss) - I also need some holy water 05:10 ya 05:12 since you could luck out and find a co-aligned altar deeper down, or one thats easily converted 05:13 no luck down to 13 so far - but coming back up from mine's end, I'll resweeps all 13 to make sure 05:13 prolly too squishy to go much deeper 05:13 in my experience they always pop up about the time you give up finding them 05:13 ic 05:13 are you chaotic? 05:14 aye - elven 05:14 does sacrificing a human priest as elf convert it? 05:14 hehe - good quest 05:14 question 05:15 I think it has to be elven to count 05:15 this minetown also scares me - it's the zoo - I've had a mastodon escape on my first run to take me out 8^P 05:16 youre playing evilhack right 05:16 aye - evil 05:17 ok - going for Mine's end - still need the luckstone anyhow 05:19 waesum: Has to be same-race to convert as a chaotic 05:19 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 05:20 the furthest I've gotten in evil was just castle - not having MR at that point (and getting zapped by polywands) was too much to handle - also I didn't know about ghosts needing blessed or bone to be hit 05:20 spectre/cockatrice combo did me in 05:20 waesum: Or in general, really 05:21 uh oh, that sounds supiciously like a suggestion for spectral cockatrices 05:21 don't let L3 know :^) 05:21 Converting the altar angers the priest, though 05:21 waesum: I only said "as a chaotic" because I recalled a clause about destroying it 05:22 hmm alright 05:22 rather if you're not chaotic but do same-race sac on a chaotic altar you destroy it 05:22 eraserhead97: you might find this useful - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Aligned_priest#Trapping_an_aligned_priest_with_boulders 05:22 Same-race sac as a chaotic converts the altar instantly and angers any priest tending to it 05:23 amateurhour TY - but I've never been able to maneuver that priest OFF the altar-adjacent square like those instructions say 05:29 If you're not human, sacrificing the priest is considered a normal sacrifice 05:30 I've done it; it is doable 05:31 ok - this bizarre lvl looks like some kind of mine's end, but I can't tell 05:31 There's a Rat King in some kind of sewer 05:32 giant leeches, giant cockroaches, ginormous rats abound 05:32 Yeah, one of the new EH Mines' End 05:32 -!- PavelB has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:32 Ends* 05:33 can I expect to find a luckstone somewhere here? 05:34 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:11262 05:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:11491 05:36 this is DISGUSTING - walking through sludge 05:37 oh, yeah 05:41 it's a pretty nasty one really 05:43 I aborted the attempt until I get some levitation 05:44 tame Schroedinger's Cat the mind flayer 05:54 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04 annoying, angered my god and as a chaotic I must sac something with diff 11 or higher 06:06 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 06:13 I have all this really cool stuff but 1 bite from a zombie or rabid dog could be game over at his stage. Proceed with care. :-) 06:20 lot of people angering their gods today 06:21 anger your god day 06:21 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:21 new holiday! 06:23 that's one way to remove altar farming I suppose :^) 06:23 level 9 and I have BoH, GoP, flying amulet, gray DSM, CoP, jumping boots but I just keep making stupid mistakes 06:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24 will have to pretend to be atheist for awhile 06:27 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 06:27 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:29 I got to level 14 thanks to all the monsters in the Ice Queen's Realm 06:29 now I can go a-questing 06:31 good luck on the quest! :-) 06:36 be sure to anger your god first, all the cool kids are doing it 06:40 heh 06:47 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:56 microlance didn't get the memo 07:23 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:30 morning 07:30 mornin' 07:30 afternoon 07:31 blart! 07:31 :) 07:33 o/ 07:33 how is everybody 07:35 pretty OK 07:38 pretty ok is good 07:40 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:50 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 07:52 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 36 points, T:334, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:55 lol "The gnome zombie is hit by magic missiles appearing from thin air!" Zombies, don't mess with the Oracle... 07:56 at work so am stress, 5 mins till glorious lunchtime 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 193 points, T:962, killed by a piranha 07:58 amateurhour: just an fyi, L3 reads the backscroll whether he's flagged or not :) 07:58 I know :D 07:58 heheh 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 435 points, T:1339, killed by a gnome 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4399 08:14 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 08:16 -!- Muad has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:17 <@microlance> dragonhide mummy wrapping now thats useful 08:18 In EVIL, it seems that as a WIZ, I need to wait for a wish to get MB (chances of getting it through gifting seems low unless I can get really high level). Is this how Wiz's typically go in EVIL? 08:19 What do you do for weapons by the time you reach castle? Or do you go Quest and full spells? 08:20 I'm Xp:9 atm, have reflection, MR, but combat is super weak, and only have 4 lame spells. Master Mind Flayer pet has been doing all the work. 08:20 I don't think this will work for much deeper levels... 08:21 <@microlance> play giant and melee 08:21 my giant fists of death 08:22 <@microlance> getting the arti is also just luck, ive gotten demonbane gifted right around 2000 turns once 08:23 <@microlance> one game you will get magicbane at lvl 4 on the first sac 08:23 damn - hasn't happened to me yet - LoL 08:23 it seems that EVIL has eliminated arti-strats 08:23 you can't go for Stormy as Evil or even Cali as Lawful is hard 08:24 a lot of people farm at altars so I don't think that's quite true 08:24 so it's just a matter of collecting more wands or getting the spellbook? + food? 08:26 monster generation is higher after milestones so waiting at an altar might work fine as well, idk 08:27 bring the mountain to muhammad or whatever 08:27 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 08:27 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 08:28 ring of slow digestion helps a lot 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 606 points, T:1778, killed by a rothe, while praying 08:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 260 points, T:318, killed by a wand 08:39 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 240 points, T:390, killed by a gnome 08:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] xor (Bar Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1547 08:57 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:819 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:41090 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41096 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1310 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:1476 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19105 09:31 <@microlance> master liches and arch-liches should be enough, i believe right? 09:32 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:32 alhoon would be good to genocide as well 09:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] xor (Bar Inc Mal Cha), 26707 points, T:3727, absorbing too much energy and exploding 09:33 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:33 <@microlance> yeah, but i had 3 blessed ones, should probably genocide ; and then put unholy water on the last 09:33 <@microlance> doing a h genocide is so gambly 09:34 <@microlance> then again ; might become piranhas and those eels in the mines 09:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:35 <@microlance> unholying both and doing master mf and alhoon might be the best 09:37 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 09:37 [hdf-us] [fh] xia (xor) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 17475 points, T:433, killed by an invisible wizard called "opiuw"'s wand, while sleeping 09:40 [hdf-us] [fh] wiola (xor) (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 7011 points, T:292, killed by a jackal 09:40 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 09:43 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3865 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3879 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:13695 09:45 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 09:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:14718 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15451 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4915 10:05 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] zor (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 265 points, T:349, killed by a gnome 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:21524 10:12 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 10:24 Bloody elves have generated inside the sokoban prize rooms so I can't see what's what. Looks like the monster room is too tough anyway, better try the mines first. 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 891 points, T:2210, killed by a gnome lord 10:31 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 10:32 mobileuser: that's happened to me a few times. really sucks 10:35 when you enter the level? 10:35 [hdf-us] [fh] cotgor (zor) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 40350 points, T:2186, killed by a giant ant, while praying 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh4] Kibo (Lyra) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 42482 points, T:5380, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted water demon 10:37 yeah, sometimes there will be a monster in each of the closets 10:37 so if you do object detection you'll see the monsters inventories instead of the prizes 10:38 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:38 in 3.7 or evilhack? 10:38 evil 10:38 evilhack 10:39 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:40 i like playing giants, but if i don't get an early wish to go for an artifact i'm not sure how to get MR... I guess hope to find the amulet 10:41 wonder if the zoo generation code has a bug 10:41 just yolo it and go for the quest 10:42 not 14 yet, but yeah i guess that's the answer 10:43 i have a blessed +3 mithril shield of reflection that a dwarf wished up in the mines 10:43 so i could try to polypile this amulet of reflection in hopes of getting MR. But there's so many garbage amulets and i'm likely going to want this one later anyway 10:44 I think the shield hinders martial arts 10:44 you don't get the bonus when wearing a shield 10:44 like you don't get the extra turn at grandmaster 10:44 right 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 417 points, T:1073, poisoned by a water moccasin 10:51 <@microlance> not getting wishes early with giants are the worst part of the giant experience. i didnt get one on my barbarian yet and am on my way to the castle, but i worry about finding werebanes and such on the way 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:7572 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7637 11:02 tbh in vanilla I sometimes use a shield as a monk and consider it fine, I'd imagine with giant fists it'd similarly be fine 11:02 I'd just go for the quest for MR rebatela and keep the shield of reflection, assuming gmaster marts already 11:03 wish up something nice at the castle 11:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1647 11:13 -!- math_ is now known as math 11:17 [hdf-us] [un] xor (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 502 points, T:756, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:10714 11:21 !whereis nabru 11:21 nabru: [hdf-us] nabru [nh370]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:2764 The Gnomish Mines level: 7 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2357 points, T:2913, killed by a hill orc, while sleeping 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:141620 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 2437 points, T:3891, killed by an ice vortex 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:24628 11:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Tou Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12100 11:46 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 918 points, T:1751, killed by a gnome lord 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 458 points, T:841, killed by a hobbit 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:6029 11:56 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 12:03 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 12:04 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:07 <@microlance> omg there was an alhoon that teleported to me in the castle the second i went down the stairs, atleast i didnt get unskilled in everything 12:09 alhoons are so nasty 12:09 <@microlance> lul 12:10 <@microlance> should have went quest first 12:10 <@microlance> and how lucky are the demon who summons yeenoghu 12:14 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18 <@microlance> damn i saw a bone platemail being sold for 2100 in an armor shop and got excited until i realized i was playing monk 12:19 heh 12:19 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 12:23 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 12:25 YANI: leather shoes should be edible 12:29 beef jerky shoes 12:30 evilhack feature request: stone to flesh on stone shields turns them into meat shields :^) 12:32 i think this was looked at awhile back, and not just for evilhack 12:32 oh, great minds come up with bad ideas for the sake of a pun alike 12:33 aosdict, did you ever look into that for xnethack? i think the code right now only looks at rings and rocks in inventory 12:34 ah he did, sort of 12:34 meat could just be another material I suppose, with special cases wherever it makes sense 12:34 like meat shield of reflection doesn't make sense, so convert to large shield 12:35 'meat shield' 12:35 lol 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:45326 12:37 can mastodons pick up boulders? 12:37 time for more EH 12:38 * aoei *will* survive the early game as illithid one of these days 12:39 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:26424 12:39 vaguely recalling a fix went in to make it so races other than giant couldn't pick up boulders 12:39 and yet I as a mastodon have picked up a boulder 12:41 maybe it applies to base races but not polyforms? 12:42 yeah, could be the case 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7183 12:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:46 <@microlance> gnomish wizard 😩 12:46 <@microlance> *s 12:48 <@microlance> those two assholes must be the nr1 minetown killers 12:49 OMG 12:49 SOKO EARTH SCROLLS ARE ACTUALLY USEFUL BC WATER IN MINES 12:49 who's genius idea was that??? 12:49 was that you K2? 12:49 * amateurhour usually uses those scrolls in vanilla too 12:49 amateurhour, wtf for? 12:49 one to block vlad escaping 12:49 once in a blue moon I used them on medusa 12:50 oohhh never thought of that 12:50 so he can't leave his top tower level? 12:50 one to block the quest mob escaping if that's relevant, or boulder fort for kaen 12:50 yeah unless they read scroll of tele or something very frustrating 12:51 <@microlance> i once tried to use one in the pursuit of killing a scroll shopkeeper, i thought him in a rockfort with stinking cloud would do it 12:51 while I'd like to claim credit for that 200iq idea, someone in irc told me it but can't remember who 12:51 <@microlance> but i didnt think things through and died of the rock myself 12:52 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 12:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 12:54 -!- TheWolf_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9] 12:55 -!- TheWolf has joined #hardfought 12:56 ouch 12:56 gnomish wizards are a wee bit more dangerous than I remember 12:57 I miss JarlEarl 12:57 Very much so 12:57 i wish they'd come back 12:57 There's... quite a few uses for scrolls of earth really. Hiding from monsters, trapping the Minetown priest, making a safe spot to dig a hole in Medusa's lair, bridging into a water vault, cheating in Sokoban... 12:57 yeah, I usually leave all scrolls and potions somewhere before going into minetown because of them 12:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:27611 12:57 amateurhour, noted 12:57 i havent seen such an epic meltdown over any nethack game, ever 12:57 Andrio, rarely do I find any of those things necessary tbh 12:58 before or since 12:58 mm... 12:58 K2 is there anything you want to check for this mastodon picking up boulders thing 12:58 or should I continue with the game as usual 12:58 mastodon is picking up boulders? 12:58 I am a mastodon now and I picked up a boulder 12:58 were you a giant before? 12:58 yes 12:58 that's why 12:59 I occasionally use them in Medusa's 12:59 not a bug? 12:59 maybe? 12:59 Or Juiblex's 12:59 if I polymorph into anything I can pick up boulders then? 12:59 Andrio, same but in the vast majority of vanilla games the soko earth scrolls go unused 12:59 probably 12:59 lets see 12:59 Andrio, rivers in the mines means that's much less likely to be the case 12:59 i stand by my point 12:59 Ah, indeed 13:01 amateurhour hahahah... i started as a giant, poly'ed into a newt, picked up a boulder 13:01 i'm stressed, but i picked it up 13:01 :P 13:01 lol! 13:01 intended behaviour? :P 13:01 oh my no 13:02 Local Man Discovers Scrolls Are Useful In Places Other Than The Branch They Were Found In 13:03 lol 13:03 so you poly into , but you still keep your race flag 13:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 1492 points, T:887, quit 13:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 1102 points, T:252, quit 13:05 guessing that's vanilla behaviour 13:06 I wonder if polymorphing into a dwarf makes the gnomish mines peaceful if they weren't already 13:07 i think i see why this is happening, i need to figure out why I made a change to throws_rocks() in mondata.h 13:07 Umbire, local woman if that quip was directed at me thankyouverymuch 13:07 Ah, assumptions were made 13:07 Apologies 13:07 You're not wrong about scrolls of earth going unused, but they DO have uses 13:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 622 points, T:271, killed by a giant ant 13:09 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 13:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 510 points, T:223, killed by a dog 13:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:11 Umbire, have you people never heard of hyperbole? 13:11 look it up and read my original comment again 13:11 yeesh 13:11 brb 13:12 I mean I was agreeing with you to a point? 13:12 i kinda hoard scrolls of earth. Plenty of uses and they aren't all that common 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 203 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46806 13:14 I usually hope to have a few by Medusa primarily 13:17 YANI: Stepping on a banana peel causes you to slip, fall, and make a lot of noise. 13:17 been playing giant so haven't been a big deal (currently have 25 boulders) 13:17 I would gladly trade the boulders for mR 13:22 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 24480 points, T:23364, killed by an ettin, in explore mode 13:28 [hdf-us] [4k] Gelsed (Sparky) (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "", on T:54 13:28 <@riker> !pom 13:28 @riker: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 10 days. 13:29 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 13:29 amateurhour fixed it 13:30 neglected a !Upolyd in mondata.h 13:30 oops 13:30 no more super-newts 13:30 (of excellence) 13:31 how am I meant to roleplay as a superhero newt in your game now 13:33 thanks for taking the time to fix it :) 13:33 You turn into a newt! You throw a boulder. The boulder hits Dudley! --More-- 13:34 K2: iirc stone to fleshing a stone shield will turn it into a number of meatballs 13:34 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 7968 points, T:7864, killed by a stone giant, while moving through the air 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3166 13:34 Meat shield? 13:34 AntiGulp: https://nethack-yanis.github.io/yanis/2770.html 13:34 aosdict: dar it 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3270 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3016 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3452 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:145715 13:45 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4630 13:48 !who 13:48 FIQ: [hdf-us] rebatela [evil] sluggoman [nh370] qt [nh370] dgoddard [nh370] nabru [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] hackedhead [nh4] Ardub [spl] rikersan [dnh] Sparky [4k] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [evil] aoei [evil] mobileuser [evil] AlbertB [nh370] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4675 13:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3097 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4838 13:54 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 13:55 aosdict yeah I saw the later commit you did 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1420 13:55 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/709463746699067442/Screen_Shot_2020-05-11_at_10.55.34_AM.png 13:55 <@riker> cached website text? lol 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 grey dragon scale mail", on T:1531 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1637 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2387 points, T:1728, killed by a watch captain 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:5693 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh4] lunaria (hackedhead) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 29331 points, T:2188, killed by a dwarf 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7348 points, T:5721, killed by a leocrotta 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:146274 14:00 The homunculus is killed! Your pseudodragon grows up into an elder pseudodragon. 14:00 :o 14:00 can it grow up further? 14:00 Possibly 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kokushu, on T:47922 14:01 I don't know much about Evilhack from memory sadly 14:01 But I think it can become an ancient psuedo 14:01 ooo 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:146332 14:01 sounds bangin' 14:02 [hdf-us] [4k] Gelsed (Sparky) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1029 points, T:368, quit, in explore mode 14:02 would love to find a probing wand or steth to check on its status 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:146376 14:05 [hdf-us] [4k] Gelsed (Sparky) (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "+5 rustproof gauntlets of power", on T:25 14:05 Umbire it can 14:05 * Umbire prays 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:146452 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:146516 14:09 [hdf-us] [4k] Gelsed (Sparky) (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "rustproof +5 Dwarvish Iron Helm", on T:30 14:10 yep. I have an ancient pseudodragon now 14:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9016 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6473867 points, T:146554, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/nethack/dumplog/1588189639.nh.html 14:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 filth-crusted feather-etched rapier named fire brand", on T:3656 14:14 <@riker> that is a mouthful 14:14 <@riker> > c) a filth-crusted obsidian ember-runed feather-etched rapier 14:16 sounds like a waste to have it crusted in filth 14:16 also GG QT! 14:16 <@riker> i personally enjoy a 10% instakill & +d12 damage thanks 14:17 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 14:17 hi 14:17 Hello qt_, Welcome to #hardfought 14:17 I mean aestethically 14:17 thanks, very kind of you 14:17 qt_: congrats, bud 14:18 *aesthetically even 14:18 Umbire: thanks! 14:19 mechancially ofc it's OP but trying to imagine how a filthy obsidian ember-rune feathered sword looks just makes me s ad 14:19 sad* 14:20 <@riker> ds3 crow quill, but made of obsidian and with fiery runes 14:21 <@riker> this is further proof that "making fire brand variable type was a bad idea" :) 14:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:22 but the f i l t h 14:23 * Umbire cries 14:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:32 wuhu. got holy water 14:32 <@riker> i just had a polytrap spawn under one of the mimics in the mimic mine's end 14:32 <@riker> thank god for intrinsic searching? 14:33 w h e w 14:35 got unholy water, woot! 14:35 well, you need it 14:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:35 (the sound of music) dip in every fountain! 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] HappyE (Val Dwa Fem Law), 708 points, T:2715, killed by a giant ant 14:41 elenmirie__, nice 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3647 14:42 [hdf-us] [4k] Gelsed (Sparky) (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "fireproof +5 cloak of displacement", on T:3317 14:43 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 14:43 [hdf-us] [4k] Gelsed (Sparky) (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Minetown temple, on T:3446 14:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3873 14:46 [hdf-us] [4k] Gelsed (Sparky) (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "a wand of tame monster", on T:3490 14:47 a wish would be really nice right about now 14:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:49 [hdf-us] [4k] Gelsed (Sparky) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 12252 points, T:3727, quit, in explore mode 14:50 rebatela: For what do you wish? GOLD NAGA DOWNSTAIRS 14:52 oh! oh! wait! hang on! 14:52 I have holy waters, and a magic lamp 14:52 yeah need to remember the naga (no mr) 14:52 I think they can cast destroy armor 14:52 now supposing I were lucky and got a wish 14:52 actually i know they can 14:52 I would like to wish for PYEC i believe 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2937 14:52 is SDSM still a good early wish for a wiz in EH? 14:53 sounds good 14:53 I'll attempt it 14:53 :O 14:54 awesome 14:54 so now I also got cold resist as well as reflection 14:54 but cuz it's EH reflection doesn't help as much as in the olden days 14:54 still need it though 14:55 can my items still be destroyed as well as damage only being reduced? 14:55 <@riker> take what you can get :) 14:55 rebatela, yeah figures 14:55 i want to say your items are safe, but now i'm not sure 14:56 i always put scrolls and potions and stuff in bag anyway 14:56 reflection seems to save items in EH 14:56 but yeah like if you are wearing rings and have reflection i believe it keeps lightning from destroying rings 14:57 in zap.c both cold & fire rays have a `if (!Reflecting)` check before destroying items 14:57 yeah 14:57 lightning too 14:58 black dragons are no joke in evil too, aoei and and they have a passive disint attack that destroys weapons/gloves 14:58 yeah I heard about that 14:58 gray dragons will cancel your gear 14:58 I heard about that too 14:58 scary stuff 14:59 it's not that bad 15:00 dragons are kind of a pushover in vanilla by the time you see them 15:00 true 15:00 but 15:00 disintegrating and cancelling passive attacks ARE kinda scarzy 15:00 scary* 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5291 15:01 also pet pseudodragons are cool shit 15:02 [hdf-us] [4k] Scrapple (Sparky) (Arc Scu Mal Neu) wished for "+4 rustproof fireproof gauntlets of power", on T:1 15:02 +4, bold 15:03 [hdf-us] [4k] Scrapple (Sparky) (Arc Scu Mal Neu) wished for "+5 fireproof cloak of displacement", on T:9 15:03 oh or is that wizard mode or something? 15:04 [hdf-us] [4k] Scrapple (Sparky) (Arc Scu Mal Neu) wished for "a ring of polymorph control", on T:10 15:05 <@riker> exploremode probably 15:09 <@Sweet Bodhi> im hitting my head against a wall here 15:09 <@Sweet Bodhi> how do i get python to work in notepad++ 15:09 kewl i got dex gauntlets 15:10 like python plugins or something? or running python scripts from within notepad++? 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10464 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased Platinum Yendorian express card", on T:22399 15:11 throne :) 15:11 <@riker> did you get twoflower? 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:10480 15:11 no 15:11 <@riker> that's lucky 15:11 wouldn't have been a problem though 15:11 its roughly 50/50 first wish 15:11 *artifact wish 15:11 <@riker> one less murder on your conscience 15:11 <@Sweet Bodhi> python scripts 15:12 i got whooped by neferret the other day 15:12 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1702586/how-to-execute-a-python-file-in-notepad ?? 15:12 murder doesn't stay on my conscience long in this variant... just need to eat more floating eyes etc 15:13 in evilhack, wishing for an artifact can cause the associated quest guardian to show up? 15:13 correct 15:14 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Wishing_for_artifacts 15:14 <@riker> does the lvl of the dude summoned depend on yours? 15:14 no 15:14 I don't think so 15:14 it used to 15:15 ouch 15:15 but that made them too easy 15:15 an Earth Elemental of Thoth nearly killed me 15:15 thanks god for digging wand 15:15 like, you name Sting at XL1, and you get an elf trying to kill you 15:15 dug myself out of the engulfed state and my pet ancient pseudodragon finished it off 15:15 you go! 15:16 i was down to like 5 hp or so lulz 15:16 <@Sweet Bodhi> this is confusing 15:17 can you be more specific, please? What in particular is confusing? 15:17 <@riker> k2: just make it like, twice your level + 15 15:17 <@riker> :) 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:51051 15:21 heh 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 173 points, T:414, killed by a small mimic 15:22 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Doomblade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:6260 15:23 [hdf-us] [4k] Scrapple (Sparky) (Arc Scu Mal Neu) wished for "", on T:1362 15:23 "" is the best item in the game 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35118 15:26 a dagger 15:26 a bloody dagger 15:26 are you serious Anhur? 15:26 [hdf-us] [4k] Scrapple (Sparky) (Arc Scu Mal Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1623 15:26 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:6309 15:26 is it a bloody dagger? That's better than an ordinary one 15:27 at least it's already a murder weapon 15:27 XD 15:27 <@Sweet Bodhi> ^ 15:28 it'll be rustproof and at least +3 15:28 does that make it better than a +1 quarterstaff? 15:28 might have another property too 15:28 it's at least good enough to chuck at zombies 15:28 well in evilhack, you want to stick with the staff because magicbane is a staff 15:28 when the need arises 15:29 hothraxxa, indeed 15:29 hey, evilhack gods are real assholes 15:30 somebody got +5 boots of fumbling the other day. elenmirie, maybe? don't recall who 15:30 lol 15:30 well, I found some dragonhide gloves of fumbling, but that wasn't from the mailiciousness of the gods. Just the maliciousness of the RNG 15:31 i've had those too 15:31 Then Odin gifted me a helm of opposite alignment, which I took to mean, go work for the other side, please. 15:31 somebody got a helm of opposite alignment 15:31 aha 15:31 someone else after me, too 15:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:32 can't remember who 15:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3287 15:32 <@Sweet Bodhi> i got it working 15:32 <@Sweet Bodhi> wooo 15:32 woo! 15:32 what? 15:32 python 15:33 oh, I've got a pit viper working 15:33 big deal :D 15:33 he's digging me a pit 15:33 <@Sweet Bodhi> python in notepad 15:33 i'm working on a giant anaconda 15:33 <@Sweet Bodhi> this took a long time to wrap my mind around jfc 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7619 15:33 the python wraps itself around you 15:34 <@Sweet Bodhi> mfw i wasnt finding the file cuz i had the filetypes wrong 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:11980 15:35 hothraxxa: how do you balance your laptop on the giant anaconda? 15:36 patience and practice 15:36 two very worthwhile virtues 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 318 points, T:862, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:39 <@Sweet Bodhi> i still didnt get it working 15:39 <@Sweet Bodhi> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 15:39 oooh i survived bigroom 15:39 cool 15:39 * elenmirie__ gives Sweet Bodhi a nice cup of tea 15:39 <@Sweet Bodhi> sips ah yes, mind lending me a hand kind sir? 15:40 Then Odin gifted me a helm of opposite alignment, which I took to mean, go work for the other side, please. <-- lol 15:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1776 points, T:2084, killed by a magic missile 15:42 I got 3 gauntlets of fumbling in a row once, 15:42 followed by a staff of war 15:43 which I took as a threat to wear the damn gloves 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4789 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52138 15:43 wear the damn gloves and make war on yourself 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed dgoddard's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4808 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52139 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 12 darts on an altar, on T:4866 15:44 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4384 15:44 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 15:44 [hdf-us] [4k] Scrapple (Sparky) (Arc Scu Mal Neu) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:2279 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:4437 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4536 15:46 <@Sweet Bodhi> i refuse to believe i am this stupid 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4681 15:47 use your best Hercule Poirot voice: Oh, I am the imbecile! 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2685 points, T:4792, killed by a wand 15:48 <@Sweet Bodhi> christie reference 15:48 <@Sweet Bodhi> bravo sir, bravo 15:49 thank you, thank you! *bows* 15:49 <@Sweet Bodhi> i see only half of the solution 15:49 heh 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1060 points, T:1205, killed by a giant spider 15:51 <@Sweet Bodhi> why is getting this to work so complicated 15:51 shite 15:51 already prayed once 15:51 got TermIll'd again from a locust 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:5157 15:51 wahtdoidoooo 15:52 guess that's me dead 15:52 unihorn, eucalyptus leaf, spell? 15:52 <@Sweet Bodhi> pray again 15:52 <@Sweet Bodhi> gods like worship 15:52 I don't have any of those things 15:52 or try a hail mary prayer 15:52 also the locusts aren't going anywhere 15:52 sometimes they have mercy (not very often) 15:52 they'll sick me again 15:52 D: 15:52 run 15:53 I tried dropping all my scrolls incase one was ?oSM 15:53 yeah locusts come in swarms so you can be really screwed when they show up 15:53 quaff an unid'd potion as last resort 15:53 ohw ell 15:53 oh well* 15:53 helpful hint in evilhack: if you see a green tree, kick it. it might give you eucalyptus leaves, which is huge in the early game 15:54 not like that game was going well or anything 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4588 points, T:4840, killed by a fire ant 15:54 aw, RIP 15:54 ok I'll try to remember the leaves trick 15:55 it doesn't always come up, but it's a good chance if you see some trees 15:55 sometimes you get a room with lots of trees, and then it's a very good chance 15:57 yeah, I saw one of those tree rooms once 15:57 next time I'm kicking every tree 15:58 holy water if you are not chaotic? 15:58 yeah, basically before you have a unicorn horn or another way of curing sickness just try to avoid zombies, locusts etc 15:59 zombies aren't too bad because they're slow 15:59 when evilhack first came out the zombies were fast ! They are a lot easier to avoid now 15:59 not sure what speed are locusts but I'm guessing they're faster 15:59 did you have holy water? 15:59 yes but chaotic 15:59 ah 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:1473 16:00 my god is currently angry with and no unihorn or healing yet, I may meet the same fate :-) 16:00 *me 16:00 yeah, it's just part of the game. can really suck though. you feel so helpless 16:00 why *did* you murder your faithful dog? 16:01 oh wait that was someone else nvm 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:6162 16:04 <@Sweet Bodhi> > why did you murder your faithful dog? already going to die, kick the bucket while we're at it 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:6200 16:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:14693 16:07 FIRE(5,60) is insane on a weapon, right? 16:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:08 <{Demo}1> you have to ask, which one is the dX tohit, and which is the dX dmg 16:08 <{Demo}1> if I had power I'd check 16:08 <{Demo}1> but I dont 16:08 <{Demo}1> so lol 16:10 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:13 I think it's +1d5 to hit and +1d60 damage 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 18309 points, T:7099, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:13 <@riker> it should be amateurhour 16:13 that's quite some damage 16:14 <@riker> how did you find that 16:16 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:9619 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:9629 16:17 it's in the TNG patch for Mumakbane, I think I need to check it definitely only applies to mumakil 16:19 none of the other bane-like weapons have such a high damage as far as I know 16:23 <@riker> ah yeah that makes sense amateurhour 16:23 <@riker> and to be fair i don't think the other bane-like weapons would be as good lol (maybe dragonbane) 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4241 16:30 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 dwarvish iron helm on an altar, on T:3185 16:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:12555 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4274 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10176 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2451 points, T:5460, killed by a killer bee 16:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:13502 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:10782 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 754 points, T:2455, killed by a rothe 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10901 16:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) was given Fuma-itto no Ken, on T:14607 16:51 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:51 K2 very minor thing, peaceful Juiblex can occupy the same space as a closed door. Intended? Or vanilla behaviour? 16:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) was given the Fluorite Octahedron, on T:14903 16:52 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:53 he's a bit blobby, old Juibs 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3007 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3048 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a spherical amulet on an altar, on T:3053 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 441 points, T:1522, killed by a dwarf 16:56 <@riker> mobileuser I think that's vanilla behavior, comes with him being jello 16:57 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Con Orc Mal Cha), 13419 points, T:7466, slaughtered by a watch captain 16:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 mithril helm of drain resistance", on T:15489 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1524 points, T:3300, killed by a watchman 17:01 ah jello blobby of course, thx :-) 17:02 now can I convert an altar if my god is angry... 17:02 time to wiki 17:05 ok, sacrificing a former pet on a cross-aligned altar would make my god happy, weird stuff 17:05 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 17:06 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Shelob, on T:16429 17:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:16910 17:16 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Pir Orc Mal Cha), 178 points, T:325, slain by a killer bee 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:36330 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1621 points, T:4957, killed by a riding accident 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 469 points, T:499, killed by a gnome 17:25 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 17:25 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 17:25 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 17:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:30 that's scary, couldn't teleport away because peaceful Juiblex is tagging along. managed to kill that air elemental just in time. 17:30 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 17:31 why couldn't you tele? 17:34 Juiblex is a demonic presence 17:35 as long as I'm not fast I can't shake him off... 17:37 I don't really understand why that means you couldn't teleport away from the air elemental 17:38 wouldn't he just go with you and stay peaceful? 17:38 i've noticed lately (since .5) you can't teleport some monsters away from you (like with the wand) 17:38 You can't teleport in the presence of a major demon 17:38 new thing in 3.7.0, instead of demon lairs being permanently no-teleport any level with a demon prince on it becomes no-tele 17:38 like sometimes I would do that before invoking the eye so they don't come with 17:39 no-tele for who though? 17:39 it was always no tele for player but you could zap teleport at a monster to get them away from you (talking about evil though) 17:39 oh I see, could you still teleport the air elemental away? 17:39 in evil you can't even use cursed gain level to get away if a demon lord/prince is present 17:40 right 17:40 that's new 17:40 K2's special fix ;-) 17:40 so you basically have to fight demo now 17:40 that's the intention, yes 17:41 amateurhour I don't have a wand of teleport yet 17:41 sketchy situation indeed 17:41 but I do have jumping boots on, keep forgetting... 17:44 dammit shambling horror is like an alhoon or something 17:44 just lost all my spells 17:45 and went back to skilled in martial arts 17:45 ugh 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13893 17:45 ah I had a sucking variation in another game 17:45 if I genocide alhoon will the shambling horror still do this? 17:45 rebatela: at a glance I don't see any reason wands of teleport wouldn't work vs mons on no-teleport levels (in evil) 17:45 it's happened 3 times. I'm not even in gehennom 17:45 they will 17:45 these things are nasty 17:46 I can testify to that (vorpal death last game to one) 17:46 ranged attacks 17:46 but if the monster has teleport control it can control the teleport to stay next to you I think 17:46 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/85ea36366f988a2c315d9af2893960d2ddc85d6a/src/teleport.c#L1661-L1663 17:46 i just know I zapped it at master kaen, for example 17:47 and normally it would teleport him and it did not 17:47 so master kaen has teleport control and uses it then in current evilhack 17:48 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48 i believe it happened when I tried to teleprot an alhoon away from me too 17:48 that's quite a change imo 17:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 200 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Sipaliwini's general store, on T:14025 17:51 I don't think master kaen has teleport control, looks like the only monsters that have it are Cerberus, Rodney, Kathryn, the Riders, and tengu ofc 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 51373 points, T:14068, killed by a Keystone Kop 17:51 does anyone know if I geno the monster that the shambling horror is (i'm guessing alhoon) if it gets rid of it? 17:53 i'm guessing no 17:53 <{Demo}1> that's not how horrors work unless ehack changes something? 17:53 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 17:53 <{Demo}1> they aren't based on monsters 17:53 oh 17:53 I thought it was a random monster each game 17:54 a lot of times it's something harmless. this game they suck 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:38080 18:00 how do horrors work, demo? I only have experienced evilhack 18:00 <{Demo}1> random attacks 18:00 <{Demo}1> and random stats 18:01 <{Demo}1> not based on any monsters 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 81 points, T:307, killed by a kobold 18:02 This bizarre monster will always be something different from game to game. Its monster abilities, hit points, speed and other characteristics change every game and it's never the same monster twice. You may get lucky and encounter a very weak shambling horror, or have a game where they are incredibly powerful and would give any demon lord or prince a run for its money... or anything in between. Cannot be genocided. 18:02 maybe we're talking about the same thing? 18:03 whatever it is sucks lol 18:07 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed every's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:15417 18:08 black pudding doesn't go stale, right? 18:11 i think it does 18:11 ok - I'll leave it on the ground then 18:12 evil's resistance decay makes me want to eat everything, even stuff that's past the five second rule 18:13 thinking about giving my MMF a pair of extra speed boots (prolly should fooproof them first, though) 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3641 18:24 centaurian are non-human centaurs, right? 18:25 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25 there is no 'resistance decay' in evilhack heh 18:25 and he left 18:26 must be thinking of fourk 18:27 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:30 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 18:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:59569 18:35 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 18:35 <@Pacra> @rebatela you got shambling alhoons? dang. are they teleporting to you to do that 18:36 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 18:40 <{Demo}1> oh? does evilhack change how horrors work? 18:42 no I don't think so 18:45 every variant that has them expresses them in a slightly different fashion 18:45 but tthe differences are minor between spork/un/evil 18:45 no idea about dnh 18:46 and slex just really goes without saying 18:46 <@Sweet Bodhi> are they fleecy there 18:46 could be probably 18:46 splicehack has shamblers too right? 18:47 I'm like 100% dependent on my pet MMF - I wonder if he sucks on Medusa's brain, if that would result in stoning... 18:47 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 18:47 I would think, yes 18:47 it wont 18:47 Yes 18:47 (Splice has shamblers) 18:47 because eating Medusa corpse results in stoning, I'm not sure... 18:47 flayers and vampires know not to use their bite/tentacle attacks on something that will insta-stone them 18:47 excellent - TY 18:48 same if you're an illithid or poly'd into a vampire 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16620 18:48 AntiGulp cool 18:48 that's nice - because I've died in 'nilla before poly'ed into a vamp 18:48 i'm working on putting 0.7.1 up now 18:48 bit into chicken 18:51 think I'm gonna fooproof extra pair of speed boots to give to MMF, but I'm not sure if it will help (is it one notch up from MMF's intrinsic speed?)... 18:53 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 18:57 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:57 my problem with the shambling horror is i keep running into them! I've run into it more times than I think i have in a game and i'm only at medsua 18:58 Wait, do shamblers spawn randomly in evilhack? 18:58 yep 18:58 Oh god 18:58 i'm certainly not summoning them lol 18:58 That’s so, so, so evil 18:58 usually they are nothing tho 18:58 it's like fighting a newt 18:58 not this game 18:58 my game has them with engulf-suffocate 18:58 this thing steals items, drains my stats, makes me forget spells, eats my brain and teleports away 18:59 Oh god 18:59 one stole my towel and then i must have ended up having to fight it again later 18:59 so maybe i've only really seen 2 of them 19:00 AntiGulp there are guaranteed shamblers in the sanctum 19:03 -!- qt_ has joined #hardfought 19:06 its snowing again hah 19:06 let me know when spring starts 19:07 saturday 19:13 Hmm... ...was going to cancel a silver D to avoid cold blasts, but I wonder if the wand would just reflect 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:60828 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:60852 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4827 19:17 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 19:17 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ dNetHack 3.19.0 and Slash'EM Extended 2.6.6 have been released! 19:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 19:18 !who 19:18 K2: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 [evil] dingotron [evil] karibou [evil] qt [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Karnac [nh370] omghax [spl] ripley [nh343] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] microlance [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:18 !whereis omghax 19:18 K2: [hdf-us] omghax [spl]: (Dan Chn Mal Law) T:3 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 19:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:20 [hdf-us] [spl] omghax (Dan Chn Mal Law), 0 points, T:8, killed by a falling object 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 6927 points, T:6361, killed by a human mummy 19:23 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 19:27 eraserhead97: cancellation is a beam. it doesn't reflect 19:29 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:33 does medusa respect ?oSM in EVIL? I might be screwed 8^P 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 5294 points, T:7433, killed by a vampire bat 19:36 <@link on a sink> nice one microlance 19:36 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:36 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 19:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 154 points, T:719, killed by a giant spider 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 285 points, T:627, killed by a crossbow bolt 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 613 points, T:1827, killed by a riding accident 19:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:27163 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 164 points, T:583, killed by an incubus 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1740 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:18935 19:56 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 19:57 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 19:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3214 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2883 points, T:3914, killed by an Uruk-hai 20:01 -!- qt_ has quit [Quit: qt_] 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62491 20:13 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Ink Fem Cha), 0 points, T:2, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62622 20:15 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Ink Fem Cha) averted death, on T:108 20:16 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Ink Fem Cha), 36 points, T:113, killed by a monster (pile of platinum coins) 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5971 points, T:6807, killed by an owlbear 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:54036 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 107 points, T:230, killed by a jackal 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 245 points, T:724, killed by an elven dagger 20:28 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Ink Fem Cha), 1880 points, T:876, killed by a monster (rock troll) 20:29 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Ink Fem Cha), 0 points, T:2, zapped herself with a wand 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:29246 20:30 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 20:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Lungorthin, on T:32932 20:41 -!- nabru has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:55182 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:29758 20:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34284 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 526 points, T:1794, killed by a giant bat 20:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 quicksilver", on T:34879 20:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 filth-crusted frost brand", on T:34880 20:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding named segfault collection", on T:34884 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:13816 20:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of slow digestion", on T:35642 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:1271 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 468 points, T:1281, killed by an iguana 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3 points, T:56, killed by an arrow 20:58 <@Suzune Takada> wow spl 0.7.1 21:04 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 quicksilver", on T:35167 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed filth-crusted +3 frost brand", on T:35169 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding named my first segfault collection got eaten by a segfault", on T:35170 21:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of slow digestion named round 2 at the castle boiz", on T:35172 21:08 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:10 <@riker> this is why you save - so you do'nt have round 3 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:56522 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:56526 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading The Fifth Elephant, on T:3334 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:3334 21:13 <@riker> round 4 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1083 points, T:3912, killed by a soldier ant 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 436 points, T:1418, killed by a gnome lord 21:20 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 118928 points, T:14716, killed by a guardian naga 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:57162 21:32 <@Derek *lighter drop*> finally 21:32 <@Derek *lighter drop*> a fitting name 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:57662 21:35 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:35 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 21:40 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:41 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 21:43 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 21:43 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 21:44 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1921 points, T:1860, killed by a poisonous corpse 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3928 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 436 points, T:878, killed by a sewer rat 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 fireproof dragonhide T-Shirt of decay", on T:58536 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4216 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4245 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 374 points, T:728, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Grib 21:56 !whereis omghax 21:56 K2: [hdf-us] omghax [spl]: (Mon Chn Nbn Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of gold detection", on T:64382 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:5599 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:6234 22:01 <@Pacra> uh oh 22:01 <@Pacra> I have that worst question you can have in an eh game 22:01 <@Pacra> "where did my bell of opening go" 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1515 points, T:3503, killed by a giant spider 22:13 @Pacra oh NO 22:14 <@Pacra> @Antigulp it's around here... somewhere 22:14 <@Pacra> I'm thinking if I just retrace every instance of an item drop from level 20 onwards i'll find it... eventually 22:15 <@murgatroid99> I once accidentally didn't pick up the bell in the quest. It took me a while to notice 22:17 it could have been stolen 22:17 player monsters like to do that 22:17 hmm maybe just the amulet though 22:20 I had an "oh, the Bell has no charges" once, that got pretty painful. 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9078 22:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:37454 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 13738 points, T:9323, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:34 [hdf-us] [slex] Pacra (Sai Dun Mal Cha), 2408 points, T:1349, killed by a rock 22:36 <@Suzune Takada> 'lawful' infernal dancer is selectable 22:36 <@Suzune Takada> in spl 22:36 <@Suzune Takada> I heard infernals are the kind of demon so they are always chaotic 22:37 <@riker> probably a bug 22:38 As if there aren't lawful demons 22:38 <@Suzune Takada> ah 22:38 <@Suzune Takada> lawful demons are exist in nh 22:38 @Suzune Takada Fair warning, I haven’t written the dancer wiki page yet, and I’m working overtime for the rest of tonight, so you’ll be playing blind. 22:39 <@Suzune Takada> (no good/evil exists in nh) 22:39 <@riker> andrio: I think those are called devils in d&d 22:39 *playing without a guide 22:39 Ah, true. 22:39 <@riker> lawful evil -> devils, neutral evil -> yugoloths, chaotic evil -> demons 22:39 In D&D, demons are always chaotic, devils always lawful, and daemons (when they exist, depending on edition) are neutral. 22:39 Oh yeah, yugoloths. 22:39 <@Suzune Takada> ah 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided disenchanters, on T:64842 22:40 <@Suzune Takada> I knew 'daemon' is the alternate notation of demon 22:40 <@riker> daemon / yugoloth are equivalent in d&d i believe 22:41 Depends on the edition. 22:41 <@riker> fair 22:41 <@riker> i'd say that the latter term is superior for 1. coolness 2. ambiguity 22:41 Oh definitely 22:41 <@riker> (coolness is much more important though :) ) 22:41 I swear, lower planes cosmology gets rewritten every edition 22:41 <@riker> antigulp: out of curiosity, have you read shemeska's story hour? 22:42 @riker Ooh, I haven’t, but it looks planescape themed? I love Planescape 22:42 <@riker> i haven't finished reading it, tbh i haven't read it in a while 22:42 <@riker> but yeah I agree, planescape is sick 22:43 <@riker> afaict i'ts a d&d campaign that was set in planescape, and this is the DM writing it out (with comments from the players / etc.) 22:43 <@riker> was recommended to me by chris when I was bugging him about baatorian lore 22:43 That sounds awesome! I love campaign journals. 22:44 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Dan Inf Nbn Law), 228 points, T:986, cut down by a small mimic 22:44 Wait… hold on… My DM had an NPC named Shemeshka in the last campaign… Shit, shemeshka is a meta character! 22:47 <@riker> technically speaking shemeshka predates that campaign, I think 22:47 <@riker> i believe it's just a generic arcanoloth that was named at one point and ended up being a well loved character 22:47 <@riker> https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Shemeshka 22:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:38073 22:48 <@Suzune Takada> changeling seems to 'weaker' form of slem doppelganger 22:48 <@Suzune Takada> only chat with a monster to polymorph its form 22:48 <@riker> not necessarily a bad thing suzune 22:48 @Suzune Takada It is! Because Slash’em doppelganger is broken as hell 22:48 <@riker> slashem doppelganger is borderline OP 22:49 Ditto 22:49 <@riker> yeah actually i'ts just full on OP 22:49 <@riker> not even borderline 22:49 <@Suzune Takada> yes I agree slem doppelganger is OP 22:54 What happens when you chat with a vampshifter? 22:54 what if you chat to a chameleon? 22:54 …I think I tested those but I don’t remember. 22:55 In 3.7 (maybe 3.6.6 also?) chameleons can turn into their base form sometimes. 22:55 (Am currently sleepy and doing overtime work, brane no work good) 22:55 ouch... 22:55 Andrio: Ooh, I didn’t know that! 22:57 <{Demo}1> wait 22:57 <{Demo}1> does spl have a doppleganger spiritual successor? 22:57 <@Suzune Takada> 3.6.5/3.6.6 are just security fix of 3.6.4 and older versions 22:58 <@Suzune Takada> @{Demo} Yes. Of course t's much weaker than doppelganger 22:58 <{Demo}1> oh shit nice 22:58 <{Demo}1> will be looking forward to that for jnh 22:58 <{Demo}1> ndnh also adds a doppelganger spiritual successor type role, but with a different approach i'd expect 22:59 <{Demo}1> role->race 23:03 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:03 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:65030 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:65033 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:65177 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Daimyo, on T:65254 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:31956 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:23239 23:15 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Pri Vam Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:12216 23:15 !who 23:15 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [slshm] eraserhead97 [evil] karibou [evil] oh6 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Tide [nh370] Ardub [spl] | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] omghax [spl] | [hdf-au] No current players 23:15 !whereis omghax 23:15 K2: [hdf-eu] omghax [spl]: (Sam Gul Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 23:17 <@Suzune Takada> ah 23:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] Pacra (Pri Elf Mal Neu), 3776 points, T:2885, killed by a rothe 23:18 <@Suzune Takada> @AntiGulp question: in spl, displacer beast/genetic engineer in 3.7.0 development version added? 23:18 @Suzune Takada Yep :) 23:18 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 23:18 Genetic engineers were already in Splice technically, but the code behind them has been changed to 3.7.0’s. 23:19 <{Demo}1> are amalgamations still a thing? 23:19 Yes but now they actually make sense and aren’t terrible 23:19 <@Suzune Takada> aah 23:22 and this knight is now basically an unstoppable mowing machine 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 435 points, T:1328, killed by a bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:24 quit 23:24 shadowcat: Message from Umbire at 2020-05-10 01:16 EDT: <3 23:25 nuuuu 23:25 dinnae quit ;; 23:25 i can only stay a little longer. i need to get up and go to work tomorrow. :) 23:25 Ooh, then best get to sleep 23:27 i'll be back tomorrow. :) 23:27 !whois omghax 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tide (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 568 points, T:1422, killed by a pony 23:30 okay, night all. :) 23:31 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 23:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Pacra (Pir Inc Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:9268 23:33 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:3203 23:35 -!- misha is now known as werekitten 23:37 <@Pacra> @microlance nice 23:40 <@microlance> this priest started with 18 str 18 con 18 wis, so the rng was on my side from the start 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4179 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4233 23:49 -!- werekitten is now known as misha 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:65546 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:65547 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 10984 points, T:6440, killed by an invisible stalker 23:59 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 1664 points, T:2851, killed by a rabid dog