00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a lich, on T:3581 00:09 !who 00:09 K2: [hdf-us] karibou [evil] eraserhead97 [evil] Cropper [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Ardub [xnh] bouquet [xnh] | [hdf-eu] ChiefGreyBush [nh370] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 00:09 !whereis ChiefGreyBush 00:09 K2: [hdf-eu] ChiefGreyBush [nh370]: (Pri Hum Fem Law) T:3 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:09 !lastgame chiefgreybush 00:09 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/ChiefGreyBush/sporkhack/dumplog/1527164631.sp.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/C/ChiefGreyBush/nethack/dumplog/1588997320.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/C/ChiefGreyBush/nh13d/dumplog/1527556434.nh13d.txt 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4862 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4904 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an oval amulet on an altar, on T:4926 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:4945 00:19 !who 00:19 K2: [hdf-us] karibou [evil] eraserhead97 [evil] Cropper [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Ardub [xnh] bouquet [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Mishka [nh370] omghax [nh370] Tangles [dnh] 00:19 !whereis omghax 00:19 K2: [hdf-au] omghax [nh370]: (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) T:3 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:19 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 00:19 ^ new edit level (new monsters, objects, achievements) 00:21 <{Demo}1> wow 00:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:43712 00:31 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4093 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Venzar's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4975 00:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43820 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1751 00:41 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 00:43 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 57 points, T:251, killed by a jackal 00:47 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2615 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1461 points, T:2708, poisoned by a crossbow bolt 00:55 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:4056 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 3842 points, T:4059, killed by a dwarf king 01:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed magic lamp", on T:44759 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7006 points, T:6867, killed by boiling potions 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 66 points, T:68, killed by a giant spider 01:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class U, on T:45883 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1423 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1866 02:08 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:09 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 02:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 02:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:39, on T:47519 02:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:47674 02:31 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 02:38 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 36 points, T:372, killed by a goblin 02:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:47866 02:55 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 1149 points, T:1746, killed by a mithril arrow 02:57 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 83 points, T:147, killed by a goblin 03:02 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 206 points, T:528, killed by Ms. Touverac; the shopkeeper 03:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:49054 03:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:49415 03:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class z, on T:49609 03:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:49921 03:42 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Famine (for the 5th time), on T:49997 03:48 !who 03:48 bugsniper: [hdf-us] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] pinball [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 03:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:50042 03:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3139484 points, T:50070, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Ardub/xnethack/dumplog/1588364915.xnh.html 03:59 GG! 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rn3(0) attempted - returning zero Program in disorder. Please inform Amy (Bluescreenofdeath at nethackwiki) about this bug.--More--" got this twice, the second time I got a gift after anyway 07:01 !tell @riker thanks, I'll look into it, already have a suspicion 07:01 I'm on it, LarienTelrunya. 07:03 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:41170 07:04 riding wooly mammoth as giant is very fun 07:09 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:41583 07:11 everything runs from me 07:12 or at least appears to... Giant monk flying on a lvl 36 wooly mammoth (i'd run) 07:13 problem is this giant monk really wanted to be a spellcaster and blew 3 wishes on EOTA (and didn't get it) 07:19 K2 or Tangles: uhh... my slex game on hdf-eu just encountered a panic, which means there should be a .e save for AmyBSOD; can you please check whether that can be turned back into a regular save? I'm not sure if a core dump got generated but if yes, I'd be interested in seeing the backtrace :) 07:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:29 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 07:30 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:43171 07:36 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:39 wooly mammoth keeps bucking me 07:39 not sure how to keep tame 07:42 does throwing it tripe work? 07:51 -!- zjmc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:53 <@microlance> k2 have ruined my mithril shield 😦 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a red dragon, on T:33766 07:54 <@microlance> it no longer functions as a small shield 07:54 you've fallen for the classic blunder - letting K3 know you like something 07:54 :^) 07:55 <@microlance> and i lost my dragonhide cloak and t-shirt and had to use up my magic lamp feelsbad 07:55 <@microlance> when i became a weredemon 07:56 rip :( 07:56 yeah i hesitated talking about how cool it is 07:56 <@microlance> so soon my lamps oil is gone and ill have to do gehennom in darkness like usual 07:57 I will try tripe. Left it at ludios, but we killed juiblex and baelzeub together 07:57 <@microlance> i dont really get the oil lamps, they run out quick and oil is like the rarest resource in nethack world 07:58 microlance can you get or make gold dragon scale mail? 07:59 <@microlance> yeah i just need to find the scales. 07:59 <@microlance> im using a red dsm right now 07:59 <@microlance> its my open slot 07:59 <@microlance> but both gold dragons have been scaleless 08:05 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Mas Ali Mal Neu), 442574 points, T:49236, killed by a monster (Destruction Dozer) 08:05 Man, this guy hits like a *dead* lol 08:05 [quest nemesis] 08:05 musicdemon's slex game on hdf-eu gave: Waiting for access to record. (59 retries left). (and it counted down from there) 08:06 I give up. Sorry. 08:06 Perhaps there is an old /slex-2.6.6/record_lock around? 08:06 also seems like a bug 08:07 it's hdf-us, but yeah 08:07 oh yeah sorry, meant to write hdf-us 08:08 it was my own game that is on hdf-eu and in need of recovery (transforming the .e save into a proper save again) 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:34872 08:23 lo 08:23 lol evem 08:23 i can't type anymore 08:24 ok there is a funny eh bug and this time I will let K2 guess what it is 08:26 magic 8-ball... 08:27 is 18 the most you can charge a magic harp? 08:28 8 is max?? 08:28 oh 20 08:29 says wiki 08:29 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:35414 08:30 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35415 08:30 is it one that can be abused mobileuser? asking for a friend 08:31 it can certainly be mildly abused. 08:32 not a game winner, but certainly fun to exploit 08:32 "fixed bug where players had fun with the magic 8-ball" :^) 08:33 am really curious about it now but will wait till L3 guesses what it is I suppose 08:33 that's a red herring actually ;-) 08:33 -!- dk657 has joined #hardfought 08:34 first time I killed the oracle, just wondering what a magic 8-ball is good for 08:34 amateurhour: I've been telling him that the wish thing should be fixed since it was first introduced. 08:35 "very small percentage chance it could grant the user a wish when applied" doesn't seem worth the trouble? 08:35 it's like 1/10k or something like that 08:35 oh no, it's 1/100k now 08:35 I do not have that kind of patience :-) 08:37 Yeah, it's like... on the one hand you're incentivizing someone to lock themselves in a closet forever and try to eke out that wish (it's fairly easily scripted), and on the other hand if the chance is so miniscule and the artifact comes from killing someone not normally killed, why is this behavior even implemented? 08:37 because it's funny 08:38 :^) 08:38 does it at least consume a turn? because evilhack has a monster clock, so sitting there for eons means the spawn rate goes way up 08:40 no that evilhack clock is not there anymore 08:41 it now depends on certain mile stones 08:41 really??? 08:41 much better 08:41 spawn rate not tied to turncount anymore 08:41 old news 08:41 and I thought the milestones are just "if you get that far and the clock isn't that high yet, set it to that rate" 08:41 yeah better in general. not in this scenario 08:41 heh I'm not following evilhack development *that* closely 08:42 to be fair most people are still under that impression 08:42 seems like it went viral 08:42 I'm just gonna put the 8-ball in a box and forget about it 08:42 it gives intrinsic warning tho 08:42 that's pretty neat 08:43 considering see invisible isn't permanent anymore 08:43 already have that... 08:43 oh 08:43 master key of thievery 08:44 Thank you for freeing me. bah 08:44 I just realised my little exploit could be abused by a starting rogue 08:44 going to do a test 08:44 and are immediately thinking of starting a rogue? :^) 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:45338 08:46 well I am playing a rogue now who doesn't need the exploit anymore 08:46 but for future starting characters it could be unbalancing 08:47 a soldier just returned some daggers that I lost earlier, thank you! 08:49 Oooooh yes 08:49 Once my game is finished I will have to own up :-) 08:53 :^) 09:04 I can't remember how I got AC as a giant. I must have prayed a lot 09:08 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 09:22 Hmmm ghosts still immobilise me in this game 09:23 The wiki doesn't explain when you stop being afraid 09:24 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 09:24 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Mys Fel Fem Cha), 42 points, T:255, killed by a cowardly attack on her breasts 09:25 vorpal jabberwock on DLVL1. yep 09:25 sounds fair and balanced 09:26 unlucky polymorph from a wand 09:26 works as intended 09:26 Tried storming castle without MR (EVIL). Got hit with a polywand - I think I lost my armor and weapons in lava but not sure. Is it possible to retrieve from lava with /oCold and dig? Anyone tried before? 09:26 " it will not work if the player is able to sense the invisible ghost" seems I need ESP 09:26 or be able to see invis 09:26 eraserhead97 it should be possible 09:26 it is possible 09:26 amateurhour ah could try that 09:27 anything that doesn't burn can be dug up. same precautions as freezing water 09:27 ie don't dig next to lava 09:27 indeed, surrounding squares must be lava-free 09:27 I don't really like see invis being temporary in eh 09:28 get crowned 09:28 yup 09:28 been trying 09:28 of course a magic trap can take it away 09:28 thx - will try 09:28 before I do the valley I'd better altar camp 09:28 encouraging altar farming seems like a bad idea to me 09:28 why? 09:29 but people seem to like it so maybe I'm in the minority 09:29 ah :-) 09:29 btw, if you got hit more than once with a wand of poly, then anything you dropped got polyed with the second hit 09:29 he speaks from bitter experience! 09:29 hothraxxa good point - I think it's possibly lost then 09:29 same with pudding farming and other things from the past, encouraging a lengthy grind to be prepared for things seems iffy to me 09:29 maybe not if you were over lava 09:30 this is the sequence of events 09:30 slex is the only variant to my knowledge that actively limits pudding farming, and every slex player ever hates my solution for that with a passion :P 09:30 err... altar farming (but it also limits pudding farming) 09:30 altars disappear 09:30 in slex 09:31 got hit with polywand and turned into red D, but I didn't see weapons or armor - maybe dropped? 09:31 got poly:ed again into a Giant 09:31 went back and looked for armor and weapons, but not found 09:31 so how does one get on here via discord bridge? 09:31 were you wearing rdsm? 09:31 * aoei has discord on her phone now 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1543 points, T:2131, poisoned by a giant mosquito 09:31 yes 09:32 or I was wearing rds - got polytrapped earlier 09:32 LarienTelrunya, it limits it, but you can still "use up" each altar you find 09:32 you would have lost them when you polyed into a giant 09:32 the scales 09:32 yes, that I expected. But I also lost GoP, BoS, dual wielding longswords, etc 09:32 jilles: that's what I mean, there is an actual limit in slex other than the "urrrrrgh I've gotten bored of altar camping for 200k turns and still not getting stormbringer" "limit" in vanilla 09:33 you'd still be wearing them when you changed from being a red dragon but a giant would destroy capes and armour 09:33 that stuff should be under the lava 09:33 if it's not flammable 09:34 Yes, I lost rds and cape... ...just wondering about the rest 09:34 I'll check lava - didn't explicitly drop those items 09:34 freeze and dig 09:34 I guess if I had dropped them, a second polywand may have transformed them? 09:34 yes but they'd be in the lava 09:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 305 points, T:453, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:35 so the wand shouldn't hit them 09:35 I'll try freeze and dig (wand of cold SPENT - will have to get charging or fresh drop) - TY ^^ 09:35 i look forward to your results 09:36 this is my 2nd time losing my gear - I lost once on Medusa's Isle when I killed a nymph that stole my GoP - the nymph was over water 09:36 scroll of earth + dig worked there 09:37 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:38 earth isn't reliable over lava 09:39 I think once I ascended with orange dragon scale mail because I had a hard time getting sleep resist 09:40 ya - I'll look for /oCold or charging. btw, I found a room with GREEN walls on Dlvl:9 - what's that about? 09:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:46 grrrr. elf corpses should still give sleep resistance right? 09:46 I've eaten so many elves 09:47 still no sleep reisst 09:47 are you sure you don't have it already? if you do, no msg 09:47 enlightenment to check 09:48 erm I will double check pretty sure I don't though. I remember a sleep trap putting me to sleep fairly recently 09:49 yup no sleep resist, just been unlucky with the corpses I suppose 09:55 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21997 09:56 eraserhead97: that happened to me TWICE when i was having a great game. Bag wasn't fireproofed. lost a couple markers, all potions scrolls etc 10:02 omfg - NPC drops black DSM and /oCold 10:02 DAMN 10:02 exactly what I needed ^^ 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:36036 10:05 !lastgame nabru 10:05 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-05-08%2019%3A34%3A18%2C%20Dorime-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt 10:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:46510 10:07 rebatela, what game are y'all playing that needs the bag fireproofed to avoid item damage? 10:07 evilhack 10:07 ahhh 10:07 sounds evil 10:07 that was my own fault. I walked into lava 10:08 it's evil, but fun 10:08 ouch 10:08 lava is probably the least of the evilness 10:09 whats the monster AI like 10:09 nh monsters are stupid as hell compared to some of these variants 10:10 they can use a lot more items at their disposal, and rangers try and keep out of melee range 10:10 they can even use wishes to their advantage 10:11 ah that will make the gnomes in the mines more dangerous 10:11 [backscroll] i didnt nerf a new creative player strategy. there's no way any large metallic shield should ever be treated as a small shield for casting purposes. ever :) 10:11 getting the castle wand can be quite stressful lol, some soldier gets it first and wishes for an archon or something 10:11 <--- L3 10:11 haha, yes, I think we really agree on that 10:11 Too bad they can't open the chest. 10:11 they can if they have a key 10:12 Yikes 10:12 Where would they find a key though? 10:12 they often spawn with one don't they? 10:12 Andrio, intelligent monsters in evilhack can loot containers and unlock them if they have a key 10:12 can they be generated with one? 10:12 who _made_ this perverse game? 10:12 hi K2 *fleece bundle with cute fingernails*, is there hopefully an 5AmyBSOD.e or similar file on hdf-eu? my slex run encountered a panic :/ 10:12 a pure being of evil aoei 10:12 Oh god 10:12 watch captains, regular captains, player monsters will spawn with keys 10:12 K2, was evilhack your doing? 10:13 yup 10:13 hm, I don't see many captains in the castle. 10:13 you bastard 10:13 i take the blame 10:13 I like how you knew who it was from my description there 10:13 lol 10:13 And the soldiers aren't smart enough to let another pick up that cockatrice corpse they can't wield because their polearm is cursed 10:13 LarienTelrunya yeah lemme look 10:13 Andrio: it's happened to me. Including the part with the guards wishing up a figurine of an Archon 10:13 Oof... 10:13 they won't CHARGE the wand in evilhack 10:13 well yeah they can 10:13 but they will cash that first batch of charges out 10:14 oh they will? 10:14 here's how that works 10:14 if they have a scroll of charging i suppose 10:14 sweet 10:14 but often they won't 10:14 imagine seeing a guard wrest a wish from a (0:0) wand of wishing 10:14 :^) 10:14 has it happened to anyone else? it's happened to me at least twice 10:14 amateurhour,;_; 10:14 they wont wish for a scroll of charging (they do in grunthack, wooo) but if they happen to have one, they'll use it 10:14 only once they did the archon thing 10:14 K2, daaaamn 10:14 but that totally changed my game. I didn't even have charging so I had to avoid the castle for a long time til I could deal with the mobs of monsters and the archon 10:14 evilhack is *evil* 10:15 mission accomplished 10:15 as someone noted before, you can use it to get good stuff for wishless conduct 10:15 gotcha 10:15 XD 10:15 Where would they get a scroll of charging? 10:15 random Andrio 10:15 same place they get all their other scrolls I suppose, the ether 10:15 Can they just generate with random scrolls or loot it from the barracks chest? 10:15 they could 10:15 can monsters be generated with scrolls or do they always have to find them on the ground? 10:16 aoei both 10:16 okay 10:16 just like vanilla 10:16 in vanilla monsters seem to have scrolls of create monster and stuff though 10:16 I don't think they generate with scrolls of charging in vanilla, even though they can death-drop them, 10:17 LarienTelrunya game recovered 10:17 alright thanks K2! is there also a backtrace/core dump? (not sure, because it was a panic, not a segfault, but maybe there is?) 10:18 Andrio in evilhack, the list of objects that intelligent monsters would want to find or pick up was increased vs vanilla 10:18 things like keys, various magic items, etc were added 10:18 Indeed 10:18 aoei: evilhack is worth trying I think, you'd probably like it 10:18 probably 10:18 i've already ascended vanilla umpteen times 10:19 altho only twice on 3.7 10:19 6k turns evilhack ascension when? 10:19 heh 10:19 hahah 10:19 _well_ 10:19 let's see if I can ascend first 10:19 oh by the way folks, new version of 370-hdf went live a few hours ago, has latest devteam commits, to include the new monsters and objects they added 10:19 nice 10:20 K2, won't affect current savegames I suppose? 10:20 no it wont 10:20 better ascend my barb then 10:20 there's a quicker way to start a new game, #quit :^) 10:20 it was a save breaking update so you'll stay on current game and cut over to newer once your game is over 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46842 10:21 i did NOT mean to wake the wizard up right there lol 10:21 haha, what did you do? 10:21 Did that happen because giants are always aggravating monster? 10:21 nothing. just on the level outside tower. there was a titan. Maybe it cast a spell 10:21 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:21 ah, that's nasty 10:21 (forbincol is me) 10:21 It should be unable to affect the Wizard if it's not inside the tower... 10:22 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 10:22 so, I tamed the titan at least! 10:22 thank you magic harp 10:22 wooo, found a fish and chip shop nearby that's reopened 10:22 but now i have to deal w/ rodney for rest of game 10:22 titan real "nasty" 10:23 i am not ready for this 10:24 Lucky harp 10:24 Couldn't you just get away from him? 10:26 is rubber chicken nerfed in EVIL? 10:26 yes 10:26 it's not insta-stoning anymore 10:26 what do you think? lol 10:26 ah - ok - I'll just put in bag then 10:26 they have an opportunity to drink acid or whatever 10:26 it's still great 10:26 They have that opportunity in vanilla too 10:26 and scare monster doesn't scare any demons or bosses or anything like that nor does elbereth if that's something you do 10:27 it's the same delayed stoning that a player gets is what I'm saying 10:27 Mm 10:27 if you managed to stone demogorgon with a rubben chicken he casts stone to flesh on himself 10:27 I haven't been lucky enuf to come across SM except in soko 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 987 points, T:1706, killed by a gas spore's explosion 10:28 i can't believe that just happened with rodney. this sucks 10:28 it was not ascension run time 10:28 I've barely explored gehennom 10:28 just found vlad's etc. 10:28 no worries, you got this! 10:28 thanks! lol 10:28 well, I did kill him 19 times in the game i ascended 10:29 that was different tho 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 129 points, T:427, killed by a jackal 10:32 -!- murphy_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 10:33 EVIL's castle-level is undiggable, right? If I zap with a /oDigging I should just get a pit? (not fall into VotD?) 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) , on T:1175 10:36 -!- NAOrsa has joined #hardfought 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2198 10:36 it would be the same as vanilla 10:37 coolios 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2364 10:38 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2416 10:39 did you see the 8-ball backscroll K2? :P 10:40 i did 10:40 so what is it you found that you'll think i'll nerf 10:40 I don't know what it is yet 10:42 i was talking about how fun the wooly mammoth is. don't change that 10:42 um i added that so... 10:42 haha i know 10:43 any idea why the wizard woke up just now? Can a titan cast a spell? I wasn't in the tower, but on the level oustide that the top of the tower is on 10:43 or do giants just aggravate him out? that's never happend to me before 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:46986 10:46 K2: I wonder if the alt castle layouts still work where if you fill a hole then that specific square can again produce a hole 10:46 or if that was hard coded somehow 10:47 aosdict the new castle levels dont have anything special in them in that regard 10:47 rebatela yeah titans can cast spells 10:48 yes but aggravation is not supposed to work through the wiz tower walls 10:48 what happens if you have intrinsic aggravation and then get hit with the aggravate spell? 10:48 nothing special 10:49 are you doubly obnoxious to the point where the walls have no power? 10:49 It seems that whenever a trap door or hole gets filled, that space is flagged as diggable even on non-diggable levels 10:50 I know they can cast spells. I phrased that wrong 10:50 can they wake up the wizard early? 10:51 i thought that was a bug in vanilla 10:51 i wasn't in the tower 10:51 in 3.6 but it was fixed 10:51 the devteam considered it a bug that the wiz could be woken up without player involvement 10:52 DAMN - I'm guessing the /oW is in these iron safes 8^P 10:52 he was involved! he was aggravating! 10:52 well, the other thing is giants are always aggravating 10:52 without *direct player action* 10:52 yes but giants don't wake up the wizard because of that 10:52 right 10:52 it didn't happen to me before so it must have been the titan 10:53 castle wand is never in an iron safe 10:53 crystal chest, sure 10:53 20% of the time ^ 10:54 not seen that so far 10:54 Can metallivores eat the iron safe to get the wand out? 10:54 hmm 10:54 maybe? never seen that 10:54 he just said it wouldn't be in the safe 10:54 I've fed trapped chests to gelatinous cubes before 10:55 and... what if it's an iron/copper/silver/gold wand? 10:55 Gelatinous cubes never eat contents of containers; not sure whether this situation would work the same way. 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:37444 10:57 ok - I got zapped by a L's polywand again - what happens is held weapons and armor get poly'ed and drop to the ground 10:57 K2 I've checked every wall with 20s more than once and not found a way out of this room 10:57 on us hardfought 10:57 made sure I wasn't interrupted 10:57 eraserhead97: you have that backwards 10:57 am I just unlucky or is there cases where digging is required? 10:58 never seen one 10:58 amateurhour weird 10:58 try n40s 10:58 every 3 spaces 10:59 done that 10:59 no door 10:59 rofl 10:59 wait, evilhack makes it so that one monster spawning with a lucky item can destroy your entire ascension kit? 10:59 but one poly shot would poly me first, causing items to drop and then poly the items on the ground? 10:59 yes 10:59 the solution to that is get MR aosdict 11:00 eraserhead97 if you get hit with a polywand and dont have mr, you could poly into something that makes you drop most of your gear 11:00 that gear is now on the ground 11:00 I guess if it's an AoE that lasts a certain duration of time, that would make sense 11:00 amateurhour: so if the asc kit contains MR, your gear is protected? 11:00 eraserhead97: that is why when you get polyed, never drop anything even if you are overtaxed 11:00 if you get zapped again, anything on the ground is fair game, not items still in inventory 11:00 if you have MR you don't get poly'd aosdict 11:00 aosdict: no. you don't get polyed if you have mr 11:00 K2: what happens if I pick race "centaur"? 11:01 you instantly die, the game is that evil aoei 11:01 you start as a centaur 11:01 with four legs 11:01 K2, can I still wear armour? 11:01 five is male 11:01 and you can't wear boots 11:01 if 11:01 interesting 11:01 hahah 11:01 maybe I'll stick with regular old dorf valk 11:01 helm of speed 11:01 aoei all armor except boots 11:01 but if I don't have MR (which I don't), inventory items should also be fair game for poly... 11:01 essential reading aoei: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack 11:01 also curious about giant 11:02 giant too big for body armour? 11:02 and capes 11:02 just like the monster polyforms 11:02 eraserhead97 its actually vanilla behavior for poly 11:02 OKAYU 11:02 monsters will throw poly potions too 11:02 its just that in evilhack, monsters will use the wand against you 11:02 giants have the least overhead of all the roles 11:02 er 11:02 races 11:03 K2 can you babysit me and watch this game to see if I'm doing a dumb finding the doors 11:03 :P 11:03 amateurhour i'm watching 11:03 i didnt see anything wrong you were doing 11:03 the stairs to the mines, is that on an earlier level? 11:03 yes 11:03 actually idk 11:04 yay 11:04 yes, the floor above 11:04 go find a pick axe :P 11:04 is digging sometimes required, as a feature? :O 11:04 never seen it 11:04 its not anything intended 11:04 I sincerely hope that the mines entrance is surrounded by water 11:04 for maximum lulz 11:04 aww 11:04 heh 11:04 did it for the lulz... 11:05 it'd be cool if you don't have the amulet, to have the wizard go back to meditating until you get it 11:05 is there any pre-invocation way to get them to leave you alone? 11:05 throw the book at them or something 11:06 i'm not aware of anything like that 11:06 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08 what is a race illithid? 11:08 and what roles can it play? 11:08 mindflayer 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] amateurhour (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 947 points, T:2887, killed by a dwarf lady 11:08 its a mind flayer 11:08 can play as priest or wizard 11:08 :O YOU CAN PLAY AS A MIND FLAYER? 11:08 fuck valk 11:08 I'm playing illithid priest 11:08 they're really great as well 11:08 aoei read this - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack 11:08 you should read that wiki article about them tho 11:08 fuck valk, a new slex role 11:08 K2, I am 11:09 K2, that's where I saw the mention of race illithid 11:09 okay I should maybe finish reading it 11:09 i was confused, if you're reading the wiki article you'd know then :) 11:09 I just switched to here when I saw "illithid" 11:09 !lastgame AmyBSOD 11:09 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for spl:AmyBSOD) | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/dumplog/1588600663.slex.txt 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 287458 points, T:41393, petrified by a cockatrice 11:10 oof 11:10 Gaining intrinsic resistances is no longer binary, but are percentages instead. <-- aha, this is one of the things incorporated from sporkhack 11:10 its a cool change 11:10 si 11:10 si again 11:10 i think it sucks 11:10 i love it 11:10 Hello aoei, welcome to EvilHack! You are a chaotic illithid Priestess. 11:10 encourages altar camping 11:10 :) 11:11 i should maybe read all the article before playing properly though 11:11 also i've been 90% sleep resistant and died while asleep from a wand 11:11 hey K2 I _really_ love altar farming, I will be _so_ sad if you remove it :^) 11:11 nah at that % it was just a nap 11:11 enogh to get killed 11:11 you can be awake and get killed so.... 11:11 a locust bit me 11:12 Players can twoweapon with an artifact in each hand, if those artifacts happen to get along with each other. <-- curious about this. problem if they're different alignment? 11:12 you entered the dungeon and forgot insect repellant? 11:12 you forget sunscreen too? 11:12 :P 11:12 > sunscreen 11:12 > dungeons 11:12 you see here a long sword named sunscreen 11:12 aoei keep reading 11:14 hothraxxa lol 11:14 K2, ok ok xD 11:16 amateurhour: I really wish there were some way to get artifacts other than altar farming. (this also goes for vanilla) 11:17 well... they randomly spawn 11:17 some reliable way, that is. 11:17 wishing for one 11:17 that tends to work 11:17 ooh i know... and artifact shop 11:17 -d 11:17 aosdict: in TNG there's a blacksmith that will make artifacts for you for a high price 11:17 all they sell are artifacts 11:18 shk races and price stuff was also sporkhack right? 11:18 does anyone still play sporkhack actually? 11:18 yes and yes 11:19 aosdict fixed a fair amount of issues with shopkeeper pricing in evilhack 11:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:19 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 11:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 11:19 grunthack has racial shopkeepers also, but its implmentation is different 11:19 ah I see sporkhack is also offered on hdf 11:19 i hadn't noticed it before 11:20 K2: yeah I went to the trouble of writing that wiki table, and then made a PR that invalidated it 11:22 I really want for there to be a way to dynamically assign races to certain monsters (shopkeepers, watchmen, soldiers, etc) without filling the monst.c file with 10 billion entries, but unfortunately that would require a restructure of a lot of things. 11:22 do iiiiiit (properly) 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:40441 11:22 don't do it like evilhack 11:23 It’s very possible, it would just involve messing around with what’s stored in the permonst struct vs. monst.h. 11:23 Spellcasting while wearing body armor will negatively affect your spell success rate. <-- wasn't this always the case? 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of polymorph", on T:40451 11:23 And yeah. I’m not a huge fan of Evil/grunt’s implementation, although the results are cool. 11:23 oh wait, it now includes some armours that were fine before? 11:24 aosdict be glad i didnt incorporate the way grunthack does racial its a mess 11:24 was saner and easier to just add new entries in monst.c for some things 11:24 actually evilhack's implementation for _shks_ is decent, I just don't like having a soldier type for each race in monst.c 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) became permanently transformed into a elf zombie, on T:1217 11:24 aosdict: Agree 11:24 All demon lords and princes have their own special level in Gehennom – you will encounter all of them. <-- is there any way to avoid waking Demogorgon? 11:24 i dont either but at the time ididnt know how to do it and no one was offering a better way 11:25 The problem is that things like is_elf() and is_dwarf() check the permonst : / 11:25 looking at shopkeepers are done in evilhack (that came from sporkhack) maybe i can figure a way to use it for other things 11:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:25 but it would save break so thats for another day 11:26 so just add a new macro that works on the monst 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 5038 points, T:5089, killed by a mumak 11:26 i did actually figure out how to do racial temple priests but it was broken 11:27 Any monster, should it get a hold of the Amulet of Yendor, can and will sacrifice it on an endgame altar. <-- woooow 11:27 that's mean xD 11:28 it hsnt happened yet 11:28 haha okay 11:28 would be funny 11:28 It happened in Splice :) 11:28 a nymph steals the amulet 11:28 ascends 11:28 the amulet has been stolen a few times, but the pathing to get to the altar is meh 11:28 ah 11:29 In Splice, a monk stole bouquet’s Amulet and managed to sac it (partially due to a bug). Hilarity ensued 11:30 lulz 11:30 it teleported directly to the altar didn't it? 11:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:31 Yup. I felt really bad about that one. 11:33 One significant difference however, is that the odds are high that when an artifact is wished for, it comes with its owner, and the owner is none too happy about it. <-- hahaha 11:33 who owns Grayswandir? 11:33 a player monster knight 11:33 uff 11:33 hmm 11:33 dangerous 11:34 maybe an archeologist 11:34 good luck aoei :) (game is super fun) 11:34 so you'll have to fight the wielder for it 11:34 i forget 11:34 yes 11:34 nice XD 11:34 and they'll use it against you 11:34 my barb with the minetown lamp wish would have stood no chance (vanilla 3.7) 11:34 player monsters aren't too bad, they often have good stuff for your asc kit 11:35 their level when they come with the artifact is fairly high 11:35 just don't use an early lamp wish for Grays... 11:35 yeah i actually like player monsters (for the loot) 11:35 (for the lulz) 11:35 play smart and you'll be extra rewarded 11:35 K2: You should add the Disgruntled Adventurer’s Guild level from slash’em. Whole level of player monsters. Utter chaos. 11:36 oh my 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:38204 11:36 the hero winds up with like ten asc kits 11:36 welcome to the thunderdome 11:36 <@Pacra> love that adventurers guild level, 11:36 Just like everything in slash’em, it is “Fair and balanced” (tm) 11:36 AntiGulp: ... slash'em is Fox News? 11:36 slash'em - the fox news of nethack? 11:36 wait no 11:36 <@Pacra> but yeah the loot/equip would need to be drastically reduced for eh 11:37 would it? put it somewhere sufficiently deep that players have an asc kit already 11:37 or you can only leave with three pieces 11:37 @Pacra Yeah. I love the level in Slash’em, but in EH the loot you could get off it would be ridiculous 11:37 <@Pacra> all i remember about slashem is baby dragons constantly in orish mines and also eating the hand of vecna 11:37 even for polypiling purposes. that would be a lot of magical/enchanted armor 11:37 I remember being killed by One Eyed Sam 11:38 side news - woke up to 2 inches of snow on the ground this morning 11:38 :O 11:38 in May? 11:38 its already almost completely gone 11:38 yeah (vermont) 11:39 oooof 11:39 errands time, back in a bit 11:40 K2: got snow here too! 11:40 none of it stuck but 11:40 Ha, no snow here, for once! It’s just like… mid 30s 11:41 aoei: be aware that you can't levelport on a demon lord level 11:41 hothraxxa, :o 11:41 no more cursed !ogl past demo 11:41 <@Pacra> @k2 ive got family in the mad river valley 11:41 ah including gain level pot 11:41 <@Pacra> always look forward to go to vermont 11:41 <@Pacra> best state in the union 11:42 Wait, including level gain pot? Seriously??? 11:42 Woah 11:42 *cough*hawaii*cough* 11:43 I guess playing at an illithid means I have to be so super careful about c 11:43 just like if one were polymorphed 11:43 you won't attck c 11:43 you don't bite them in EH 11:43 oh okay 11:43 no brain sucking cockatrices 11:43 @Pacra cool. having lived in both vermont and hawaii, i like vermont better 11:44 that's good 11:44 hawaii is nice to visit, wouldnt want to live there 11:44 watch out for black and gray dragons 11:44 K2, you there? I just got thrown out of my game to the hdf menu. When I tried to reenter my game I get. thhere's already a game in progress under your name, destroy old game? 11:44 hothraxxa, howcome? 11:44 <@Pacra> i was wondering if as a binder, your bite/etc attacks trigger cockatrice stoning in dnh 11:44 passive attacks will destroy/cancel stuff 11:44 Bliss56 ok one sec 11:44 Thanks 11:44 hothraxxa, :o 11:44 <@Pacra> @k2 hawaii seems ultra expensive 11:45 hothraxxa, black one disintegrates items and gray cancels them? 11:45 yes 11:45 ouch 11:45 oh K2, sorry to bother you but was there a core dump from my crash? 11:46 Bliss56 - Checkpointing was not in effect for 5Bliss56 -- recovery impossible. 11:46 hmm 11:46 aoei: all dragons have a passive attack but those are the dangerous ones 11:46 okay 11:46 Ok, it was an early game. first level, I can destroy old game and begin anew if needed K2 11:46 full grown dragons 11:46 so babies can't do shit? 11:46 same as vanilla 11:47 Bliss56 i cant recover that game and there's no backup save as it was a very new game 11:47 No problem. Thanks for trying 11:48 i do have a coredump though 11:48 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:48 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 11:48 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:48 so we can see what happened 11:48 oops 11:48 I should have been more careful. I did see it was a boulder room >.< 11:48 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:48 love those when i play giant 11:49 backtrace of Bliss56 crash - https://termbin.com/93tu 11:49 heh crap 11:50 8 new achievements added, we prob need to do something with regards to livelogging about that 11:50 Bliss56: "I blew up a game that K2 couldn't recover. 11:50 every: "Boy, you ARE getting crafty 11:51 hah 11:52 Blew up the sewing machine yesterday, today's it's nethack. 11:53 bet k2 couldn't recover the sewing machine either 11:53 Not unless he's got a spare belt. 11:53 we don't need belts in nethack 11:53 lol illithid charge everyone but illithid mad prices 11:53 no pants 11:54 aoei: yeah better to just steal them (or geno the shk) 11:55 or just play as illithid 11:56 Bliss56 what were you doing when the game crashed 11:56 just exploring, I think 11:57 did you level up or enter a shop or anything 11:57 I don't think so, but I'm not sure. It happened so fast 11:57 I could have been trying to go downstairs 11:58 oh shit lol 11:58 just leveling up made it crash 11:59 as female 11:59 male, no crash 12:00 for right now, dont play 370-hdf as a female character until we can figure this out 12:01 omg sexism 12:02 K2, shit, I have a female savegame... ah but is this bug just with the new updated version? 12:02 because mine was started before 12:02 so I'm safe? 12:02 yes 12:02 kk cool 12:04 In 3.7, cats have infravision. I love this change. 12:05 K2, this game may be evil, but I love you just for the shallow pools for #dipping 12:05 best change ever 12:05 :) 12:05 ok out the door, back in a bit 12:06 shallow pools are totally overpowered :p 12:06 The shallow pool dries up! 12:06 Nethack 3.7 is presented to you by Gary Gygax. 12:06 YASI: Throwing rocks at water will cause them to travel very far. “You skip a stone!” 12:06 curious whether anyone has played a giant wizard 12:06 int capped at 14 seems interesting 12:08 maybe one plays a bit more melee style but benefits from the odd spell once in a while 12:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:09 aoei: i ascended a giant wizard 12:09 hothraxxa, noice 12:09 how was it? 12:09 quite difficult. really limited choices 12:09 what was your main attack? 12:10 AntiGulp: YASI addendum: only if standing at the edge of the water 12:10 i don't recall. check the dumplog 12:11 ah. magicbane and vorpie 12:12 mostly i was avoiding combat 12:12 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:12 yeah just saw 12:13 avoiding combat like teleporting monsters and so on? 12:13 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 12:14 <@riker> . 12:14 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2020-05-09 07:01 EDT: thanks, I'll look into it, already have a suspicion 12:14 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 12:14 G - a blessed +4 pair of dragonhide gauntlets of protection named giant mittens of mc3 (being worn) (20 aum) <--- hahaha i love the name of this one 12:18 uff illithid have a severe strength and con cap 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) , on T:1238 12:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 12:23 Illithids start out with psychic resistance (new resistance), infravison and telepathy. At experience level 12 they can fly like their more wild brethren. OMG 12:23 so cool 12:24 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 12:24 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 12:25 I see hothraxxa has ascended an illithid priest but nobody's done illithid wizard 12:25 i thought k2 did 12:25 maybe I just missed it? 12:26 ah yeah it is there 12:26 VaderFlag did one too 12:27 Ctrl+F does a better job than my eyes xD 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1753 points, T:3158, killed by a Green-elf 12:27 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Client Quit] 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:1962 12:31 YANI: Leprechauns grudge gold golems. 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) , on T:1745 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:2564 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 309 points, T:1929, killed by a sewer rat 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2664 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:2693 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:2789 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8060 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 297 points, T:886, killed by a giant rat 12:44 remind me why do I even play vanilla? I never was a fan of vanilla things in general, and evilhack is clearly a better game 12:45 What is good and what not is very, very subjective and individually different 12:45 well true 12:46 I obviously meant from my subjective opinion 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 80 points, T:376, killed by a black pudding 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2675 points, T:3051, killed by a gnome, while unconscious from rotten food 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 234 points, T:1069, killed by a giant spider 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) , on T:1390 12:56 hothraxxa, did you normally ascend with very high XL in vanilla, or is that an EH adaption? 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) , on T:1312 12:59 So what did I do, +Beholder? 13:02 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 13:02 ^ safe to play as a female character again without crashing 13:02 [hdf-us] [spl] xor (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1064 points, T:1452, killed by a potion of acid 13:03 there's prob more to do on the backend with the new achievements as evidenced by the blank output from beholder 13:04 Bliss56 what did you do on turn 1312? :) 13:04 level up? 13:04 killed a werewolf, right after going down the stairs. 13:05 In the regular dungeon 13:05 don't remember if I leveled up 13:05 yeah leveled up 13:05 on my wizmode build it livelogs but the output is blank 13:06 message= 13:06 ^ nothing 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 743 points, T:3098, killed by a rabid rat 13:10 LarienTelrunya - no coredump for slex 2.6.6 from today 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1851 13:11 Magic lamps can be wished for. <-- does this mean they no longer provide wishes? 13:11 no they do 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1884 13:12 you spend a wish on a lamp. the lamp is worth 80% of a wish at best 13:12 ok. but of course it would be silly to wish for one just to 13:12 yeah 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:1900 13:12 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1359 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1418 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) , on T:1466 13:14 "The orc mummy is burned by your mithril Frost Brand!" for a moment that message confused me ;-) 13:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:14 Freezer burn obviously 13:14 oxymoron ;-) 13:14 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 13:14 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest51989 13:14 -!- Guest51989 has quit [Killed (beckett.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 13:14 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:2015 13:15 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1835 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1984 13:21 K2: okay thanks, so it was indeed only a panic and not a segfault 13:22 <@microlance> K2 iam sorely missing my ability to cast spells reliably with my sor 13:22 yeah 13:22 <@microlance> it was obviously meant to be that way 13:23 fwiw, i did say 'sorry folks:)' in the commit message 13:24 <@microlance> but i dont need any spells, my mjollnir and demonbane is doing some work 13:25 being able to cast spells with virtually no penalty while wearing a shield of reflection was never intended 13:25 oversight on my part 13:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:26 <@microlance> does this also mean things like orcish shields made of bone wont work with casting as well? 13:26 K2, so what's the deal with forges? didn't see them anywhere detailed in the /wiki/EvilHack page 13:26 aoei i havent gotten to new dungeon features yet on the wiki 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 757 points, T:1514, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10742 13:27 ah okay. but so. what can you do with them, #dip to melt metal? 13:27 forges, you can #dip in them just as you would a fountain, except its lava instead of water 13:27 <@microlance> their only real use is to dump zombies in 13:27 good way to get rid of things you dont want (read: zombie corpses) 13:27 <@microlance> if close enough 13:27 you can also repair damaged metallic objects with them 13:27 oh zombies revive like in grunt? 13:27 or a cursed -2 elven cloak 13:28 <@microlance> but shops are a better choice 13:28 K2, fixes rust or what? 13:28 yes 13:28 neat 13:28 rust/corrosion 13:28 anything that burns can be got rid of in a forge 13:28 knight + fountains + forges = Excal 13:28 knight + forges = no sword 13:28 er 13:28 fountains 13:28 watch out for lava demons though 13:28 <@microlance> the forge can also explode and kill you 13:28 however, a forge can blow up on your if your luck is bad 13:28 D: 13:28 <@microlance> or summon a demon who kills you 13:28 and sometimes lava demons are summoned 13:28 ouch 13:29 it's not all goodness and sweetness and light 13:29 Just kill the lava demon 4Head 13:29 sometimes the lava demon is tame, but not often 13:29 <@microlance> and dont drink it, its death 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3445 13:29 good to know xD 13:29 has that ever happened to anyone? tame lava demon? 13:29 yup 13:29 right 13:29 aosdict had a early game where he got a tame one 13:29 I thought it was just russian trollbot propaganda 13:30 heh 13:30 @microlance: Did you test this yourself or are you feeding me a line? 13:30 :B 13:31 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:32 <@microlance> ofc ive taken a sip or two of that lava 13:32 oof 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:3949 13:32 <@microlance> it was the first thing i did when i saw a forge for the first time 13:32 i'm guessing psionic wave won't work on any brainless monsters 13:33 you guess correctly 13:33 for fairly obvious reasonss 13:33 its great on gnomes though :D 13:33 are dead trees good for anything? 13:34 raven farming 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1706 points, T:4079, killed by a paper golem, while fainted from lack of food 13:34 right 13:34 <@microlance> how does it scale? psionic wave, is it your amount of pw or what? 13:34 @microlance the damage you can dish out is exp based 13:34 I also love my pet pseudodragon 13:35 <@microlance> pseudodragons are imba, they will kill priests in minetown easily 13:35 pseudodragons in evilhack are great 13:35 K2, that's nice since force bolt is fixed and good earlygame, psionic will become better as I level up 13:35 elenmirie__: everyone should startscum evilhack until they get a DL1 lava demon pet. it's the way to play 13:35 microlance, noted, I'll be careful not to bring my pseudodragon to minetown 13:35 its not crazy powerful, but could help in a bind when you have no other recourse 13:35 aosdict: ooh, grindy! 13:36 <@microlance> let him kill the watch, keep him away from the priest 13:36 microlance, I'll want a leash or magic whistle first then 13:36 maybe if I hadn't gotten the catacombs and got level teleported so often that he untamed, maybe he'd have killed the ICE QUEEN before she could one-shot me with ACID 13:36 @microlance pseudodragons had their level adjusted a long time ago 13:36 in line with dogs and cats 13:36 so they won't kill the priest then? 13:36 unlikely 13:37 okay cool 13:37 <@microlance> but their special attacks is what kills the priest 13:37 the Ice Queen wins again 13:37 elenmirie__: this time I'm wearing a smock 13:37 <@microlance> i had a ancient pseudodragon kill a priest just some days ago, it was a bone file one though 13:38 I've killed so many peacefuls I now have to work very hard to make Kos happy again 13:38 aosdict: bother your god until s/he gives you Dragonbane 13:38 crud. pet pseudodragon done just got levported 13:38 that's dl+3 or anywhere above 13:38 hope it don't take too long to fine 13:38 find* 13:39 but... but smock 13:39 well nevermind 13:39 XD 13:39 in reality, I have to find a better weapon than a +7 mace of frost before I tackle that whole branch 13:40 <@microlance> that weapon is better than most artifacts 13:41 <@riker> well, for some reason i highly doubt a mace of frost would be effective vs the ICE queen 13:41 <@microlance> for the ice res 13:41 no you dont get ice res 13:42 weapons with object properties that do fire/cold/poison/shock damage dont confer resistance 13:42 its only resistance if that same property is on armor 13:42 <@microlance> ah that was the armor prop 13:42 [hdf-us] [slshm] xor (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 12036 points, T:3229, killed by something while blind 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 387 points, T:1306, killed by a giant bat 13:53 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:59 Hi K2! I'm going to have dinner now, but after that I'll report a bug. I've had enough fun with it now ;-) 14:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] xor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1205 14:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] xor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "blessed leather drum", on T:1271 14:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:07 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 14:09 <@microlance> vorpaled in the wizards tower 😄 14:09 <@microlance> should have kept my aols in inventory 14:12 :/ 14:12 !tell mobileuser ok thanks :) 14:12 I'm on it, K2. 14:12 oh gosh, microlance 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1044 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Bar Orc Mal Cha) , on T:1124 14:16 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1296 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4401 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4258 points, T:5268, quit 14:30 Bliss56 you can play as female now if you want, we've addressed that bit 14:30 Thanks, I'm not that good at playing butch. 14:30 pre-heat smoker in 15 min 14:30 hah 'butch' 14:35 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 14:38 very refined 14:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:39 hello again 14:39 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2020-05-09 14:12 EDT: ok thanks :) 14:39 o/ 14:39 did you see that earlier beholder message that appears to have been a bit wrong? 14:39 did evilhack change something to pet's eating habits? my dog doesn't seem to eat nearly as many corpses 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, 14:39 on T:3949 14:40 hah no 14:40 aoei yes 14:40 Bliss56, lol, I always play fem too 14:40 they eat, they get full, they wont eat again until not full, except is you can still throw them what they consider a treat 14:41 me too, except for tournaments when you need a male 14:41 I was born to be fem 14:41 it was about an 1h8m ago if xlogfile could help diagnose 14:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] xor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Cerberus, on T:3843 14:41 amateurhour i think that was pre fix 14:41 K2 Hitting a peaceful monster as a rogue while wielding a weapon (using F) does not anger the peaceful. 14:41 i saw that in the wizmode build livelog 14:41 mobileuser hah really 14:41 oooh, gnome lady! 14:41 that's new 14:42 my dog killed her though 14:42 when was the fix K2? 14:42 well now i have to nerf shields of reflection again. thanks mobileuser 14:42 amateurhour recently 14:42 cheers! 14:42 aoei: racial lords and ladies are a thing in some variants 14:42 was it more than 1h30 ago? that's when they previously died before that 14:42 yeah it was 1 hr 45 min agao 14:42 Mostly to resolve the "incongruity" of female Elvenkings and such 14:42 the fix 14:43 oh right, nice 14:43 Umbire, so there's also Elvenqueens now? 14:43 mobileuser what was the fun with the 8-ball? :P 14:43 no the fun was *getting* the 8-ball ;-) 14:43 oh, lol 14:43 I could whack the Oracle and she never got angry 14:44 errmahgerd 14:44 heh 14:44 I thought you'd figured out a way to 0-turn apply the 8-ball 14:44 red herring ;-) 14:44 so you could just hold down 'a' or something and go have dinner and get a guaranteed wish 14:44 mobileuser i'll work on a fix today 14:44 thanks 14:44 how do you get the eight ball? 14:44 * elenmirie__ is out of the loop 14:44 kill the oracle 14:44 take it from the oracle 14:44 whats all this about the 8-ball. the oracle has it? 14:45 aw, poor oracle 14:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] xor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:3994 14:45 you can steal it instead I think 14:45 brb 14:45 either seduction or thievery as rogue? 14:45 true, as a rogue that should be doable 14:45 neat 14:45 i have to try one time 14:45 can you grab it with a bullwhip? 14:46 I doubt it, isn't that just wielded weapons? 14:46 yes, I think so 14:46 so, no, then 14:46 the oracle isn't _that_ hard though 14:46 yeah, but... kill the oracle 14:46 that's evil 14:46 is your alignment chaotic? have at it :^) 14:46 <@microlance> the oracle killed my vampire king pet in one turn 14:46 it's not done 14:47 i did it only once, elenmirie__ 14:47 sometimes my pets have just killed it 14:47 i've also only heard about this 8-ball and know very little other than it's related to the oracle 14:47 and i was very ashamed 14:47 apparently it's possible to get a wish from this 8-ball 14:47 but I have no idea how 14:47 the wiki just says "if conditions are right" 14:47 is it? 14:48 yeah i think it's almost impossible 14:48 * elenmirie__ feels her morality shifting a bit 14:48 for possible read nearly impossible 14:48 XD 14:48 hothraxxa might know 14:48 don't bother trying to get the wish 14:48 okay 14:48 noted 14:48 about as useful as fountain quaffing, then? 14:48 I 14:48 <@riker> it's like a 1/10000 chance & luck > 0 for an apply to give a wish 14:48 k 14:48 i get wishes from dipping in low level fountains all the time 14:48 it's 1/100000 not 1/10000 14:48 if you don't have warning yet it's useful 14:48 never quaff though usually 14:48 dipping is different 14:49 quaffing is silly 14:49 yeah. noob move 14:49 quaffing is very silly 14:49 <@riker> ah yeah my bad amateurhour 14:49 <@riker> it was nerfed from 10k to 100k wasn't it 14:49 when I was a noob, I quaffed 14:49 K2 nerfed it as 1/10000 was too common I suppose :^) 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) , on T:1092 14:49 it also has to be blessed fwiw, so don't even try without that 14:50 if you have a lot of food and enough turns to waste 14:50 K2 is the author of a game called evilhack. That tells you all you need to know about K2. ;) 14:50 :P 14:50 you eventually get a wish right? 14:50 not neccecelery 14:50 if you get a wish from the 8 ball, go play the lottery same day 14:50 <@microlance> fuck yeah i just learnt polymorph on a giant monk, ill be polypiling like a madman at lvl 30 14:50 K2, that's not how probability works and you know it :P 14:51 <@riker> after 20k turns of trying, you have an 18% chance 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1226 14:51 yeah, K2, either that or you'll have a killer meteorite drop on your head just to maintain the balance of the universe 14:51 or if you stop at 20k turns its a 0% chance 14:51 riker, ah, i seeeeee 14:52 The lottery is mostly a tax on those who don't like math 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 415 points, T:1280, killed by an iguana 14:52 <@riker> pre-nerf it was an 86% chance after 20k turns :P 14:52 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:52 Bliss56: I call it a tax on the mathematically ignorant 14:52 right. that's a bit more favourable 14:52 <@riker> if you want a 50/50 shot have fun trying it 69k turns in a row 14:52 yeah nah 14:52 script time 14:53 nevermind 14:53 elenmirie__, Bliss56 except for those that win 14:53 it's worth getting the 8-ball just for intrinsic warning imotbh 14:53 I did say *mostly* 14:53 which is gona be not you, hun, ever 14:54 must... win... lottery 14:54 * K2 gives all his cash 14:54 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:54 you'd be better off betting on the ponies 14:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:56 It's nickel slots for me but I've only played the one trip decades ago. the Liberace museum was nice, too. very sparkly 14:56 lol, I got married in Vegas once. It didn't take 14:57 the races are worth going to for fun anyway imo 14:57 amateurhour, the animals are beautiful to watch 14:57 oh, yes, they are! 14:58 monster dropped a mithril AoLS and I am an Orc :b 14:58 I especially like it when they buck off their jockeys and finish first on their own 14:58 (that sometimes happens) 14:58 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Cha) wished for "a blessed scroll of remove curse", on T:16114 14:58 i've never been to vegas 14:59 it doesn't count, of course, but it's great 14:59 its one of those things, if I were to go, would only bring cash, no cards. lodging car plane all paid for 14:59 K2: why not? 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1186 14:59 once i run out of cash, time to go 15:00 oh, yes, important to stick to the limit 15:00 and would only bring cash I can afford to lose 15:00 yeah 15:00 yep 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) , on T:1207 15:00 last time i was at a casino, i broken even on the poker table, got up and left 15:00 one of the most depressing places I've ever been was an American casino somewhere in upstate New York 15:01 they didn't even have quarter machines, I think you had to start with a dollar 15:01 *broke 15:01 heh 15:01 and everything was electronic, so there was no indication what was going on 15:01 lol, I got married in Vegas once. It didn't take <-- same thing with the one other person I know who did that XD 15:01 i would have had more fun lighting a $20 bill on fire and throwing it out the window 15:01 * aoei wonders what the long-term success rate is 15:02 every and I went on an employer-funded junket. Room and transport paid for, per diem for food. We actually ate quite well off my nickel slots winnings. 15:02 aoei: I've got no idea - my one was planned, not impulsive, but it was still a mistake 15:02 mine was also a mistake but we didn't do it in vegas 15:02 it's a sufficient but not necessary condition? 15:03 lol 15:03 the reason I got married in vegas was to dodge some family issues of this one won't come to the wedding if that one is invited, et cetera 15:03 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 15:04 elenmirie__, ah 15:04 mobileuser: fixed that bug you reported 15:04 just turned out to be entirely the wrong choice after a few years 15:04 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 15:04 however one quirk still - if you pickpocket the oracle and succeed, you still get zapped with magic missiles 15:04 even with the oracle being peaceful 15:04 so you should. Poor oracle 15:05 actually... that does sound appropriate 15:05 hmm 15:05 used to be, everyone left her alone. Live and let live. but now.... 15:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:05 and now people are killing her just for a moonshot at a wish... 15:06 disgraceful 15:06 exactly. 15:06 times being what they are... 15:06 when i was first making all of this, i had buffed up the oracle, but for whatever reason that caused some weird issues 15:06 i may revisit it at some point 15:07 K2: I was curious, can Izchak be zombified? 15:07 :P 15:07 not that I want to zombify him 15:07 I don't 15:07 I was just wondering if he could be 15:07 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:07 poignant symbolism though 15:07 if he gets infected by a zombie, as he starts to change he transformed into his true form 15:07 *transforms 15:08 wow, the cat got into a really nasty fight just now, fur of both cats is littering the road 15:08 and will he still be peaceful? Or is it time to run like fook 15:08 ? 15:08 if it wasnt you that caused the transformation, he'll still be peaceful 15:08 ok 15:08 same if you pet causes him to change 15:09 good to know, because that almost happened 15:09 something zombified another shopkeeper in minetown and he was heading for Izzy 15:09 hah 15:10 izchak even in human form is better equipped to handle zombies than other shopkeepers 15:10 amateurhour: your kitty ok? 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:6865 15:10 yeah, I think so, but her adrenaline is still going 15:10 poofed out tail 15:10 she only has 3 legs and is smaller than the other cat 15:10 oh, bless! 15:11 okay 15:11 * aoei thinks she should go to bed early 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:717 15:11 it's been a bit tricky to coax her inside, but she seems to be calming down now 15:11 night everyone 15:11 cya aoei 15:11 'night 15:11 currently cleaning off the other cat's fur from her body 15:11 sleep well aoei 15:11 night! 15:11 amateurhour: that sounds kind of scary 15:11 poor cat 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 222 points, T:719, killed by a water demon 15:11 it was really nasty, the amount of fur on the road is a bit nuts 15:11 <@microlance> hmm, staff of matter is pretty effective, it brings my success chance at casting polymorph down to 58% as a lvl 7 giant monk 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1256 15:12 has she been injured? 15:12 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:12 she's limping but I can't really get close enough to check 15:12 eep 15:12 from experience: keep an eye out for a bite puncture wound, it can turn into an abcess 15:13 :( 15:13 if she's got a tender spot or persistent limp, go to the vet before it gets worse 15:14 just in case it wasn't clear, she had 3 legs prior to the fight 15:14 <@microlance> abcesses are nasty, you leave em be a day or two too long and you get blood poisoning 15:14 A limp must be tricky on a 3-legged cat 15:14 yes, I got that part :D 15:14 just in case anyone thought she had just lost a leg in a fight 15:14 :P 15:14 she actually lost the leg being attacked by that same cat when she was a kitten 15:14 OMG 15:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] xor (Ana And Mal Neu), 58942 points, T:6158, killed by an invisible lich 15:15 bitter rivals to the end 15:15 oof 15:15 whoa 15:15 If you can, I'd just take her to the vet to get checked out on Monday 15:15 smart 15:16 better safe than sorry, treating an infected bite can cost 15:16 yes 15:16 exactly that 15:16 that happened with ozzy when he was a pup 15:16 To be fair we know from nethack that kittens are heartless murderbeasts 15:16 maybe even before nethack 15:17 I've had it with two cats - the first a rescue cat that came to us with a tiny little wound that turned out to be a horrible infected unknown bite wound 15:17 second my current Coco, who got into a fight with something (another cat or a fox, take your pick) and got a puncture bite wound that turned into an abcess which thankfully burst instead of killing her 15:18 but it was like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, blood all over the place 15:18 yikes :O 15:19 that took several days to develop, so no need to panic 15:20 with Ozzy it was when we first brought him home, he was 7 months old (and still as big as a horse). a few days later we noticed he was limping, his right front leg was swollen and tender. found two small puncture marks. turns out one of the younger pups he was playing with before we got him got a lil too rough 15:20 oh, bless 15:21 yeah, the key is a tooth going in deep, inserting bacteria 15:21 an emergency visit to the 24 hr pet hospital and 1200 dollars later 15:21 there's just a small entry wound but it develops into a big nasty 15:21 yup 15:22 the bite was poisonous! 15:22 the breeder we bought him from covered the cost since it happened before we picked him up 15:22 yes! 15:22 she was super cool about it 15:22 K2: that was good! 15:22 yes! same person we got Koa from 15:22 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) defeated Medusa, on T:17029 15:22 and she'll be the same person we'll do business with should we ever want to get another dog 15:23 those frozen hellhounds, yes... :D 15:23 we had pet insurance when we had the problem with Coco - that was I think the only big claim we ever made on it 15:24 You begin robbing monsters with your bare hands. You try to pickpocket the Oracle. You steal: O - a plastic orb named Magic 8-Ball (20 aum). The gods notice your deception! You are hit by magic missiles appearing from thin air! 15:24 the first one, I can't even remember. I think the rescue place helped with the cost, because they hadn't done the normal stuff with him, he just came straight to us 15:24 ^ and the oracle is still peaceful 15:24 K2: serves you bloody right, too. 15:24 heh 15:24 yeah i like this 15:25 why isn't it the oracle who notices the deception and fires the missiles 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a little dog, on T:4883 15:25 what does the nethack hero have to do with "the gods" 15:25 ah you found the problem then K2, good. meanwhile I have just about managed to become pious chaotic again :b 15:26 Doesn't the pickpocket have a chance of failing or at least aggroing the target 15:26 aosdict: you steal from the oracle, who is the mouthpiece of the gods. They notice 15:27 aosdict look in src/uhitm.c under AD_MAGM 15:27 the commit notes from devteam 15:27 brb 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61583 15:28 aren't the priests the mouthpieces of the gods 15:28 why can't I donate to the oracle for protection 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:61597 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:61968 15:34 if you attack a priest the gods notice too 15:34 and they don't give you spoiler hints, cheap at any price 15:34 well, ONE god notices. their own god. 15:35 well, traditionally, the Oracle at Delphi was the mouthpiece of Apollo 15:35 so Apollo notices 15:35 and some of his god friends 15:36 they're hanging out together 15:37 EvilHack updated (all servers) 15:37 ^ thanks mobileuser 15:38 we who are about to die do not thank you 15:38 ok time to try and clean up the basement, back later 15:39 good luck cleaning :D 15:40 K2 clears out the dungeon 15:40 rumour has it if you die in evilhack there's a 1/100000 chance you die in real life 15:41 lol 15:41 I'm sure I've died 100000 times in evilhack, so shouldn't I be dead now? 15:41 oh wait... *croak* 15:42 you killed elenmirie you bastard 15:42 * elenmirie__ rises again as a human zombie 15:42 coming to eat YOUR BRAINS! 15:42 You rise as a human zombie. BRAAAAAAAAAAINS! 15:43 om nom nom 15:44 Every time you die in EH it spits a bit of the Rona out your floppy drive 15:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 82 points, T:268, killed by a goblin 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:38406 15:49 -!- NAOrsa has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:51 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 25 points, T:423, killed by a kobold 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:38449 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:1357 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:6244 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1471 16:04 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +5 speed boots", on T:20266 16:07 [hdf-us] [fh] trallog (xor) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 38747 points, T:1742, killed by a dingo 16:08 -!- Nabru2 has joined #hardfought 16:08 -!- Nabru2 has quit [Client Quit] 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) , on T:1388 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3162 16:18 [hdf-us] [slex] Cassandra(musicdemon) (Mys Fel Fem Law) averted death, on T:9768 16:20 [hdf-us] [slex] Cassandra(musicdemon) (Mys Fel Fem Law) averted death, on T:9803 16:21 [hdf-us] [slex] Cassandra(musicdemon) (Mys Fel Fem Law) averted death, on T:9818 16:23 [hdf-us] [slex] Cassandra(musicdemon) (Mys Fel Fem Law) averted death, on T:9837 16:24 [hdf-us] [slex] Cassandra(musicdemon) (Mys Fel Fem Law) averted death, on T:9846 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:2562 16:25 I too love dying to traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index 16:25 !lastgame Bliss56 16:25 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1589042833.nh.html 16:26 I didn't die, I leveled up. 16:26 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Mys Fel Fem Law), 33574 points, T:9847, killed by a monster (water demon) 16:27 oh right 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2762 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a rothe corpse, on T:3366 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:2829 16:29 This is still better than a segfault. 16:29 This really sucks having the wizard awake 16:29 I was enjoying the pace I was playing at 16:29 Come one, come all! No demons denied! All you have to do is step through that gate, son, and into the world of men to receive your prize! 16:31 i'm sure he will show up as i'm fighting Vlad (or Demo) 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:3862 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 dragonhide elven helm of decay", on T:47380 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1338 points, T:3393, quit 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3 points, T:51, killed by a little dog called Bruce 16:36 so it's not a good idea to wear rings even if they're uncursed. they might just be rings of conflict 16:38 and wands of death can only be charged once? 16:38 i'm so screwed 16:38 I have PYEC too, but doesn't help obviously 16:38 nabru: or rings of polymorph that happened to generate uncursed 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 6150 points, T:4726, killed by a tiger 16:38 rebatela: wait really? 16:38 just had to kill rodney again and i keep getting those swarms of nasties. The rest of the game is gonna be like this 16:39 about the death wands? Yeah I've heard that 16:39 finally, thx Kos! 16:41 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Ele Dra Fem Law), 1464 points, T:586, poisoned by a black pudding 16:41 <@riker> EPI: once you've been crowned you get no more arti gifts 16:41 <@riker> you've already king/queen/whatever, what more could you want 16:41 Hm, I died and now it's appearing the message "Waiting for access to record." 16:41 K2: there seems to be a problem with slex on hdf-us (but not hdf-eu), it says "waiting for access to record" and tries 60 times, then gives up 16:41 happens whenever a game ends 16:42 Waiting for access to record. (0 retries left). 16:42 I give up. Sorry. 16:42 Perhaps there is an old /slex-2.6.6/record_lock around? 16:42 Some stale lock file or something? 16:42 looks like it, yeah 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 901 points, T:1426, killed by an earth elemental of Raijin 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 180 points, T:823, killed by a jackal, while sleeping 16:45 aosdict wands of death can only be recharged once in evil. very evil. 16:45 the wiki doesn't seem to say that anywhere 16:46 it is true nevertheless 16:47 ah I see the commit for it now 16:47 someone should put that on the wiki, seems important info 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 12904 points, T:7724, killed by an energy vortex 16:47 whops 16:47 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:48 testing my rings at that point was possibly not a good idea 16:50 those things suck 16:50 amateurhour: it does so say that on the wiki 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Cha) , on T:1054 16:51 hothraxxa: is it 18 max charges on the harp? 16:51 am I blind? ctrl+f'd for death, wand, char 16:51 which section is it in? 16:52 Pits keep appearing everywhere. Is that wizard harrassment? 16:52 the section of "stuff you should have known before your last horrible splat but didn't because YOU didn't read the wiki enough" 16:52 didn't read the wiki hard enough to find the information that isn't even there 16:53 :^) 16:53 the wiki didn't say that kathryn could cast >100 hp worth of acid 16:53 rebatela: not sure what you mean. it can hold up to 20 charges, and you can recharge indefinitely 16:53 ah ok 20 it is 16:53 I thought the pits only appeared when you had the amulet 16:53 you hear screaming 16:53 no... all the things that happen when you have the amulet are happening to me now 16:53 amateurhour: second item under additional item changes 16:54 they all happen when you kill the wizard which i was forced to do like 30k turns early 16:54 "Amulet of flying – new amulet that allows the player to fly when worn." 16:54 ok that's weird rebatela 16:54 i keep getting surrounded by nasties 16:54 maybe someone updated the page since I opened it, lemme refresh 16:54 i'm just wondering if it's a bug or if that titan was supposed to be able to wake hiim up from outside the tower 16:54 Because in vanilla that was considered a bug and fixed 16:54 oh, you added it lol 16:54 yeah I'm wondering that too 16:54 who me? 16:54 I'm considering dropping my gear in piles and letting him kill me and hope for bones for someone 16:55 that would explain why I didn't see it, because you added it to the page after I'd opened it :P 16:55 in my previous game when I wanted to give up, K2 and others encouraged me to batlle on... 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1468 16:56 but I can't say how desperate your situation is 16:56 never give up. never surrender. 16:56 ^ that 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3045 points, T:5002, killed by an Elvenking 16:58 oh I know... It's just way too early to be dealing with rodney. I never give up. 16:58 Hell, I'm playing under a different name because I refuse to give up on my other game lol 16:58 ha! :-) 16:58 I guess I should be wearing an amulet of MR. Because that's the onyl way i can think of this giant getting MR besides my artifactrs 16:58 and he is going to try to steal them 16:59 didn't you say you had PYEC 16:59 right now i'm flying (which I kind of need to be because of allt hese pits) and have PYEC and Eyes of Overworld. I guess he can only steal one at a time 16:59 I do 16:59 but if he steals it, now RODNEY has MR 16:59 (death wand doesn't work) 17:00 speaking from experience lol 17:00 But I still have all of gehennom to explore as well as Vlad's, geryon, dispater, Demogorgon 17:00 ok done venting ;) 17:01 i don't think he should wake up though just because the top of the tower is on that level 17:02 I would consider this a bug 17:03 the pet titan cast an aggravate spell right? 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) , on T:1297 17:04 uh, what? 17:04 level up? 17:04 titans can cast all sorts of stuff so yeah i'm sure 17:06 they don't cast aggravate as vanilla pets so I suspect the code for that somehow ignores the wiztower restrictions 17:08 aaaaah the titan was a pet! 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Cha) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:2062 17:08 that is similar to the danger of having a mind flayer pet 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3073 17:09 the titan was not a pet 17:09 until after I killed the wizard, I tamed it 17:09 the titan was hostile 17:09 hmm 17:10 ah, theory gone 17:10 the vanilla bugfix was in response to a hostile nalfeshnee casting 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3241 17:10 it sucks. now i lost my amulet of flying so i guess i will wear this amulet of MR in case he steals eyes of overworld and PYEC and then tries to touch of death all in one turn just to be evil 17:10 there are pits EVERYWERHE 17:10 were you wearing the Eyes at the time? 17:11 what is this about pits? i suspect i missed a commit again 17:11 you hear screaming 17:16 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/2433f8062277caf8dcb47ed1fca0253675ad9eeb 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3340940 points, T:38523, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Delraven/nethack/dumplog/1588023521.nh.html 17:17 stole PYEC 17:17 should have put it away 17:18 that's after i just killed him and he came right back. 17:18 :( 17:18 melee'd him to death. got the card back 17:18 oh man. those earthquakes shouldn't be happening imo 17:19 earthquakes (and pits) are an effect of killing the wizard 17:19 rodney isn't so terrifying in melee 17:19 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 133 points, T:381, killed by a sewer rat 17:19 got another death wand from an npc tho! 17:19 right. i remember about the earthquakes now 17:19 it's just the danger of him casting something nasty 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Venzar's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:455 17:20 mobileuser: sure but my opinion is that it shouldn't happen until you have the amulet 17:20 100% agree 17:21 luckily i keep finding death wands. But i think i've killed rodney 5 times and most of hell is unmapped 17:21 magic mapping is your friend 17:21 oh i know 17:21 i'm just saying i haven't even been there 17:21 and i'm killing the wizard left and right 17:21 you'll be fine 17:21 trust me 17:22 the earthquake bit not happening until you have the amulet or have done the invocation, should be easy to address 17:23 normally you dont get the wizard so early, so was never an issue before 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:4229 17:24 it's good for rebatela that you're not following fiq's path for rodney 17:25 i forget FIQ's path for rodney 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 1338254 points, T:49212, fell to his death 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3008 17:25 you gotta be kidding me 17:25 rodney casts double trouble as soon as he shows up 17:25 I went down the stairs and just tried to hit the guy to the south of me so i could bring more pets up 17:25 you forgot that you were wearing amulet of MR instead of flying? 17:25 no 17:25 i was levitating 17:25 but you can't levitation to go down the ladder 17:25 I didn't try to leave the ladder only attack 17:26 you're forbincol? 17:26 whatever. i was probably stunned or something 17:26 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Pok Fel Mal Neu), 142 points, T:518, killed by a monster (Ms. Krnov, the shopkeeper) 17:26 aosdict: was 17:26 LarienTelrunya i got rid of the record_lock on slex hdf-us 17:26 !lastgame 17:26 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/musicdemon/slex/dumplog/1589058678.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AlbertB/nethack/dumplog/1588971350.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/nethack/dumplog/1588997900.nh.html 17:26 !lastgame forbincol 17:26 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/forbincol/evilhack/dumplog/1588762593.evil.html 17:26 K2: ah cool, so the error message no longer happens? thanks! :) 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:3139 17:27 rebatela you werent levitating 17:27 I know 17:27 i wasn't trying to move 17:28 i wanted to stay on the stair and attack? can't do that? 17:28 ladder, not stairs 17:28 you weren't stunned either 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3054 17:28 i can't attack from that spot? 17:29 ...waut 17:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 43 points, T:298, killed by a jackal 17:29 wait* 17:29 wat* 17:29 was the < space and the entire platform full of monsters, so you got enexto'd into the void? 17:29 i pressed j 17:29 *wewt 17:29 there's a monster there 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1426 points, T:1576, killed by a Woodland-elf 17:30 i think what aosdict said 17:30 still don't know how i lost that amulet 17:30 so, there was nothing you could have done to live 17:30 i could have gone back up the ladder 17:30 or put levitation on 17:30 you weren't on the ladder 17:31 i assumed there was a space you could stand on at the bottom of the ladder 17:31 wrong 17:31 so i'm holding on to a ladder? 17:31 somebody was in it 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3343 17:31 so normal vanilla, you get displaced 17:31 Well, you can stand on the *actual* ladder. 17:31 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:32 no he can't if it's occupied when he comes down 17:32 But it was occupied by a monster. Vanilla behavior is that 50% of the time when you collide with a monster like that, you get displaced off. 17:32 right the ladder is a safe space 17:32 in wizmode now 17:32 You can't levitate and go down the ladder. I took of levitation, went down and tried to punch the vampire to the south of me. I wasn't trying to move 17:32 climbed down from the level above 17:32 i'm on the ladder without lev or flying 17:32 oh so you were already down and this was another move? 17:32 all i pressed was w- to make sure martial arts and i pressed j 17:32 for JUMP! 17:33 lol 17:33 ooh boy 17:33 jump, jump! 17:33 for attack down 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5755 points, T:5368, poisoned by a rotted glob of brown pudding 17:33 ew 17:33 In xnethack, I made it so you always displace the monster off the space you arrive on, because no one likes going innocently downstairs only to get displaced off the stairs by a ghost and a swarm of monsters. 17:33 so nice 17:33 aosdict: nice of you because i have been a victim of that many times 17:34 i like the vanilla 50/50 odds 17:34 yeah 17:34 50/50/90 17:34 how was it trying to move if there was a monster in that space? 17:35 i don't undertsand why i fell 17:35 rebatela: you were standing on thin air. 17:35 maybe it was friendly 17:35 oh 17:35 oh yeah, if i displaced it for sure 17:35 the game did not immediately recognize this, because the falling apparently procs after you take a move. 17:35 Doesn't matter. The Rodney thing was making it pretty unplayable anyway 17:36 in evil, if it's friendly you don't attack, you probably swap places 17:36 ^ that 17:36 i understand 17:36 and if it was a vampire, then byyyyyyyyya 17:36 not sure why we are assuming the vampire would be friendly tho 17:36 they didn't seem very friendly on the way in 17:37 i see three tame vampies on that dumplog 17:37 from the looks of your dumplog, 3 were tame 17:37 yes... i was trying to bring them up. that's why i went back dwon 17:37 i had already brought a titan up and another vampire or two 17:37 figured i'd go back for a couple more that i tamed on the way in 17:38 but if you look at the dumplog it's obvious the tame ones 17:38 given that the vamps are likely to swarm the ladder area, I would expect this will continue to happen in evilhack 17:38 like bees 17:38 bzzz bzzz! 17:38 why couldn't i melee the vampire though? 17:39 aosdict, make murder hornets for xnethack 17:39 it took a step even though there's a monster there 17:39 so if K2 likes the vanilla 50/50 odds, it's just one more evilhack gotcha to remember 17:39 you mean vanilla gotcha 17:39 :) 17:39 vanilla doesn't have a < surrounded by instadeath terrain 17:40 welcome to the big leagues 17:40 actually 17:40 [hdf-us] [fh] opiuw (zor) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 16228 points, T:542, killed by a gnome lord 17:40 i got this new hp laptop for christmas. And the freaking graphics drivers (intel supposed to be part of kernel) were not working under mint/debian/ubuntu etc. 17:40 the real problem could be considered to be that AIR is considered okay terrain to enexto() onto 17:40 I was going crazy 17:40 BUT 17:40 alright, so lets take a look at this earthquake after killing rodney but dont have the amulet yet 17:41 this new ubuntu LTS release it works!! so i have a working laptop for the first time in a long long time :) 17:41 <@riker> congrats! 17:41 yeah 20.04 LTS 17:41 i love it 17:41 i have the iso havent loaded it onto anything yet 17:41 i'm official an ubuntu fan boi 17:41 all the problems i was having, i was able to solve with this release 17:41 I've been using openSUSE on my box with no major problems, haven't used Ubuntu in quite a while 17:41 now this cheap laptop is smokin 17:41 some of the older computers at work that we cant put windows 10 on, i'm reimaging to ubuntu 20.04 LTS 17:41 all my problems with ubuntu went away when I switched to arch 17:42 cuz windows 7 went EOL 17:42 oh look at the heady guy with his arch 17:42 ;) 17:42 some day 17:42 I used to run Arch many years ago 17:42 I was just so frustrated. Got this computer as a gift 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 389 points, T:1093, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted wererat 17:42 so nice to finally have it looking right 17:42 eventually realized I don't have much time or patience to take care of it 17:42 rebatela awesome 17:42 I've heard manjaro is a popular arch variant that's easier to install 17:43 probably has its downsides over just running arch 17:51 !pom 17:51 nabru: The moon is full for 1 more day. 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 528 points, T:1007, killed by a falling rock 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7784 17:55 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 17:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 17:57 that was easy 17:57 <@riker> lol 17:57 earthquakes that happen after you've kill rodney won't occur unless you have the amulet 17:58 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1000 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 120 points, T:420, killed by a kraken 17:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:02 so you can drop the amulet to make earthquakes not happen? 18:03 and now 1/6 of harassment silently does nothing before you have the amulet? 18:06 he should just go back to meditating after you kill him once 18:06 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:7549 18:06 so he's supposed to be able to be awoken the way it happened to me? I'm just curious for the future 18:07 they fixed that in vanilla 18:08 <@microlance> damn, i got the grandmaster. i must probably do a tactical retreat and get my glasses later 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3667 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 22108 points, T:7590, killed by an owlbear 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3700 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dart on an altar, on T:3703 18:11 lmao wishing for the eyes 18:12 much nicer now it's not master kaen that appears 18:12 aosdict go ahead and drop the AoY in evilhack 18:12 go ahead 18:13 <@microlance> hmm, is the grandmaster vulnerable to wand of death? 18:13 I just think it should be u.uevent based rather than u.uhave.amulet 18:13 maybe i should change that to if the invocation has been performed 18:14 <@microlance> i just randomly tested a wand in the shop next to my wishing place and found a wishing wand 18:14 :O 18:14 yeah that makes more sense 18:14 @microlane hah 18:14 <@microlance> it was quite the surprise as it was only 333 gold 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4149 18:15 <@microlance> but giant shopkeepers are true bros to other giants 18:15 remember it's already been recharged 18:16 <@microlance> i know and it probably only got the one wish in it 18:16 <@microlance> i wonder if i dare wish for another arti 18:16 K2 should switch all his non-important-bugfix changes to be pull requests with a minimum 1 day before they can be merged into master - the point of code review is that it happens BEFORE new code goes into master 18:18 hmm... nope. this is more fun 18:18 yeah but `git commit -a -m "removed fun" && git push --force origin master` is more rock-n-roll 18:18 * K2 likes fun 18:18 * K2 likes rock 'n roll 18:19 <@microlance> is the monk quest leader even something i should fear? 18:19 Master Po 18:19 they're harder than other quest leaders iirc 18:19 little bit easier than kaen maybe? 18:19 I'll have to look it up now, am curious 18:19 <@microlance> probably should get something safe like a crystal mattock and do mines end and return stronger 18:20 if you have a wand of death just zap that imo 18:20 <@microlance> he doesnt have mr? 18:20 don't think he wears the eyes 18:21 just saying, the typical evilhack dev cycle is: 1) people discuss reason for new commit 2) new commit appears 3) people read commit and say "hey what about this" 4) another commit appears amending the first, now we have 2 commits for this change instead of 1 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:4751 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had an elven long sword entrusted to her by Kos, on T:1206 18:22 of course, if K2 were willing to --amend onto an already pushed commit and then push --force, THAT would be pretty rock 'n roll 18:22 are we spitting fire and roasting eachother's dev practices now? 18:23 amateurhour: as someone who periodically reads through evilhack's commit history I have an interest in making it as readable as possible 18:23 btw force-with-lease exists 18:24 (just in case you hadn't heard of that since it was released) 18:25 I hadn't, but it seems the same thing on repos where one person controls what gets committed to master 18:25 ah the luxury of being a one-man team 18:26 <@microlance> nooo 18:26 <@microlance> odin got pissed of even 18:26 for murder? 18:26 <@microlance> and he survived the wand of death 18:26 <@microlance> i had to kill the shopkeeper too 18:26 quest leades are immune to death rays fyi 18:26 <@microlance> but he got pissed of when i zapped the grandmaster 18:26 *leaders 18:26 wow 18:27 that's evil 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:5563 18:27 \o/ 18:27 i just sat down otherwise i would have warned you sooner 18:27 boulder fort and blast him with all your regular attack wands then imo 18:27 <@microlance> ah well i learned my lesson 18:27 <@microlance> i died 18:27 doh 18:27 :( 18:28 sorry my bad advice lead to your death 18:28 <@microlance> i had the boulder fort, but i had to climb up on it after losing telepathy because of the murder 18:28 I'm amateurhour not professionalhour :( 18:28 <@microlance> thats why i usually play chaotic, the gods are so much more tolerant 18:28 <@microlance> until you pray too early 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5684 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) , on T:1028 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3894 points, T:5904, killed by a soldier ant 18:31 i'm so confused as to what happend microlance 18:31 you wished for eyes of overworwld ? and they sent you not kaen but the quest leader (I hope) ? 18:32 and then you found a WoW? 18:34 just pulled the chicken out of the smoker... omg it smells sooo gooood 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1040 points, T:1776, killed by a werewolf 18:34 i need a smoker so badly 18:34 <@microlance> yeah i got the questleader, and then i dropped boulders at the exit to the room i was in while he was quaffing gain level pots like a madman 18:34 (or a grill for that matter) 18:34 we saw one on the side of the road today, I should go get it 18:34 (drag it home) 18:35 <@microlance> then i walked over to the shop, saw a wand for 333gold, test engraved it 18:35 <@microlance> and it was wishing 18:35 nice 18:35 they are so rare 18:35 not as rare as markers. but rare 18:35 have you ever bought a wand of nothing in a store ? 18:36 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 18:36 <@microlance> yep the only one so far ive found in a shop, counting vanilla as well 18:36 that's quite the gag the first time 18:36 in vanilla the only 100 wands are light and nothing 18:37 when i first started playing i would get thrown off by object properties on teh damn lamps too 18:39 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:39 this is a crazy came that im playing. The EOTA is created and in minetown in the posession of neferet the green. The upstair in minetown is surrounded by dragons and she is on the level 18:40 and i don't have MR 18:40 I meant to wish for PYEC, but the genie didn't come 18:40 !whereis nabru 18:40 nabru: [hdf-us] nabru [nh4]: No details available 18:40 so i had all my armor destroyed and drained to 10 ST etc. 18:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] xor (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 6203 points, T:2355, killed by a blast of frost 18:41 but ifi can get MR and go to minetown the eye is there 18:41 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 18:41 now i monster just zapped polmorphy at me, I turn into a locust/drop armor, and then he polymorphed the pile of armor into like banded mail or something 18:47 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pri Bat Fem Law), 404 points, T:496, killed by a brown mold 18:49 brutal 18:51 k2: and I love it :) 18:51 :) 18:51 makes the reward better 18:51 i think that's what it is 18:52 i need to figure out a creative way to get this EOTA 18:52 it's just there for the taking 18:53 but my AC is 1, i can't teleport 18:53 is the only way a giant can get MR the amulet? (other than aritifacts) 18:54 i will go for it in soko i guess 18:56 she was casting crazy spells though and to top it off I think I was trying to hit her with the wielded blessed oil lamp (i just wished and i don't think i switched back to martial arts) 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 68 points, T:207, killed by a falling rock 18:56 whoa, Ogresmasher in D:2 18:56 so i got my armor destoryed and surrounded by dragons and i bounced. I bet I would have defeated her with martial arts (neferett) 19:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1177 points, T:1567, killed by a blue jelly 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1793 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 925 points, T:2267, killed by a boiling potion 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 32 points, T:279, killed by a little dart 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] zor (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1354 19:12 hothraxxa: double trouble takes several turns to take effect in fiqhack though 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 390 points, T:862, killed by a boulder 19:12 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/FIQHack#Changes_applicable_to_junethack_2020 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] zor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1201 points, T:1665, killed by a killer bee 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1019 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) , on T:1078 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1228 19:21 <@Pacra> @eraserhead97 just tuned in to see you grt to minetown. my favorite part of the game 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1980 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 3036 points, T:4551, killed by an Uruk-hai 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1626 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1140 points, T:2229, killed by a white unicorn 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1673 19:27 K2: I heard something about "snow" in your part of the earth... is that true? 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1479 points, T:2457, killed by a warg 19:29 bouquet: yep, he got snow 19:29 I also got snow 19:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30 dang. We got sunshine and heat. I want snow. 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 392 points, T:777, killed by a gnome lord 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 259 points, T:844, killed by a boulder 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 345 points, T:806, killed by a little dog 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) by monster toughness, by internal monster index, on T:14376 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:2011 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2027 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1344 19:46 <@riker> hm that's another funky livelog 19:46 Yep, it happened roughly when I levelled up to 6 19:46 Apparently this livelog seems to happen sometimes when one level ups 19:47 when you level up and change rank title 19:48 idk why we want to livelog that, it's too spammy 19:48 indeed 19:48 not very useful IMHO 19:48 <@riker> that's also definitely the wrong livelog message 19:50 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:55 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 19:55 "You hear someone make a wish" - woohoo! 19:56 <@riker> did he seriously go for MR cloak + GDSM? lol 19:56 hill orc with opera cloak, gray dragon scale mail and silver wand. Dlvl:5 19:56 <@riker> if he went for both MR cloak and MR body armor, that may be a bug 19:57 unless he's a dumb orc - LoL 19:57 <@ShivanHunter> it's an orc though to it makes sense 19:57 heh hheh 19:57 <@riker> hm, do monster wishes still check your luck? 19:58 good question 19:58 lucky this is a samurai run Xp:7 - no monk, TG 19:59 <@riker> not a giant either 19:59 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 20:00 ah.. ...opera cloak was a blessed +3 cloak of protection - nice 20:00 so smart... ...or lucky RNG orc 20:00 <@riker> ah looks like it only goes for MR cloak if i'ts not humanoid, otherwise GDSM 20:00 code diving? nice! 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2539 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:2566 20:01 <@riker> oh psych it can go for either, but if it rolls GDSM as non-humanoid -> cloak of MR, if it rolls MR as non-humanoid it goes for an amulet of MR 20:01 <@riker> hey k2 you here? 20:01 so is it possible for it to get both MRs? 20:01 <@riker> not sure, i don't know if they put the thing on before they make the next wish 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2591 20:02 <@riker> ah they do, so it wouldn't do that (it checks resist_magm before making the wish, it will fall through if it has MR already) 20:02 I'm hoping I can charge this WoW eventually - would suck if it's been charged once 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:2647 20:02 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:02 <@riker> also boo, monsters don't know enough to wish for dragonhide 20:02 yeah - dragonhide ROCKS 20:03 what are the best armor to wish for dragonhide typically? 20:03 <@riker> anything that can be dragonhide i'd say 20:03 <@riker> :p 20:03 <@Pacra> wow @eraserhead97, that's a great find 20:04 <@riker> what is that - cloaks of MR/prot, gauntlets of protection, probably GoD if you want those, speed boots, t-shirt 20:04 <@Pacra> @eraserhead97 anything made from cloth i guess 20:04 <@Pacra> elven helm can be dragonhide too if you dont need it for an ego slot 20:04 <@riker> anything cloth, leather, or an elven helm (lol) can be dragonhide 20:05 <@riker> *elven helm/boots 20:05 @Pacra - ya I lucked out with that drop - especially since in the last run, I got hosed in castle without MR 20:05 wand of polymorph turned me into a black dragon and I lost all my armor/weapons due to polywand 20:06 on escaping to the higher level, I kept teleporting a spectre because I couldn't kill him 20:06 almost made it to upstairs when a c began stoning me - I couldn't pull the lizard out of the bag fast enough 20:06 I still have no idea how to kill/hit a spectre 20:07 blessed weapon 20:07 oh... ...thx for tip ^^ 20:07 i think enchanted also works but i'm not sure 20:07 had no idea 20:07 does that apply to all ghost-like things? 20:07 use blessed weapon? 20:07 yeah 20:07 ic 20:07 <@Pacra> @eraserhead97 that castle without MR run, where your armor got polymorphed under lava 20:07 <@Pacra> how'd that end? 20:08 it's pain when you find early bones 20:08 <@Pacra> oh 20:08 I managed it with a bone dagger 20:08 <@Pacra> you literally just posted it 20:08 <@Pacra> sry 20:08 must have been blessed 20:08 because often, no blessed weapon 20:08 @pacro - ya - spectre/c combo did me in 20:08 oh. bone also works 20:08 i forgot that 20:08 ok - that's good to know 20:08 <@Pacra> @hothraxxa, enchanted doesnt work 20:08 yeah? i wasn't sure 20:09 I think I had plain mithril + iron that couldn't hit 20:09 <@Pacra> yeah i know from annoying experience 20:09 so enchanted not good enough - must have blessed or bone - taking mental note 20:09 i know the last ghost i found i had to kick to death because my boots were the only thing i had that was blessed 20:09 <@Pacra> classic 20:09 lucky 20:10 what sucked was in that last run, I had plenty of holy water - just didn't know the rule 8^P 20:10 kicking is the standard attack on ghosts in vanilla 20:10 was wondering why I couldn't hit any ghosts for shiz 20:10 not so much evilhack 20:12 my first game in evil, I dipped the +1 LS until it disintegrated - got to be a "must do" evil-noob move 8^P 20:12 as valk 20:13 ok - gotta find a friendly altar for some holy water 20:14 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 20:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 6894 points, T:2051, killed by a coyote 20:19 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:19 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4120 20:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3488 20:23 i wonder if now i won't be wielding a lamp, i could just melee neferet even without MR... 20:23 i might be naked at the end of it all 20:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:24 and i'll need to avoid the swarm of dragons surrounding the upstair 20:24 can she cast touch of death? 20:24 <@Pacra> !who 20:24 @Pacra: [hdf-us] karibou [evil] rebatela [evil] Pacra [evil] eraserhead97 [evil] nabru [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Venzar [nh370] oh6 [nh370] rikersan [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 20:25 what happens to old games when Junethack starts? Are they saved and then restored in July? 20:26 <@riker> in the past i think they just don't count for june 20:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Vam Mal Neu), 1591 points, T:1049, killed by a hunting horror 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 2880 points, T:4377, killed by a gnome lord 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 36309 points, T:17224, killed by an elven queen, while paralyzed by a monster 20:31 might be EOTA in minetown bones for some lucky hacker 20:31 although maybe not if neferet still had it 20:31 EOTA? 20:31 end of the A? 20:32 Eye of the Aethiopica 20:32 oh - nice 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5351 points, T:4531, killed by a gray unicorn 20:32 too bad I already entered it - I'm guessing it level generates on entry 20:33 yeah 20:33 i'm not sure how it handles quest leaders. might just make in inelligible 20:33 i know you can't have a bones level with medusa on it etc 20:34 but if like i had gotten the eye and then gotten killed it should be there 20:35 Do you know about Dragonbane in evil, eraserhead97? 20:35 it's not a weapon. It's dragonhide gloves that grant reflection and acid resistance... 20:36 great wish for a monk (especially a giant monk) 20:37 no, I had no idea! thx for tip!!! 20:39 how is master Kaen in evil? K2 didn't buff him more, did he? 20:40 he's not easy 20:41 you certainly can't just drop a scroll of scare monster like vanilla 20:41 but a boulder fort works 20:41 damn - what I was going to ask next - SM 20:41 (most of the time) 20:41 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 20:41 SM doesn't work on any bosses/demons etc. 20:41 good to know 20:42 I like to rubber-chicken Orcus, but I think it might be too nerfed to try now (in evil)... 20:42 i've died to Kaen a few times in evil 20:43 so it sounds like need to avoid combat - go for all missiles 20:43 everyone is harder in .5 i believe because you can no longer teleport or use cursed gain level when a bad guy is on the level 20:43 like, in my ascension i skipped over demogorgon when i was coming up with the amulet 20:43 you can't do that anymore 20:43 and I don't think you can zap teleport at them 20:44 i tried to teleport Kaen away from me so I could use the eye to branchport (without him coming with me) and couldn't 20:44 since you gotta fight all bosses, it seems like the lvl14-15 rule doesn't apply any more (might as go higher? 20s?) 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh4] Murphy (Lyra) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 22138 points, T:1279, killed by a giant bat 20:44 i'm the wrong guy to ask about that because I'm a huge magic missile guy, so I always level up to 30 20:45 ic 20:45 also for charming reasons and for power regen. 20:45 [hdf-us] [slex] Purrloin(musicdemon) (Pok Fel Fem Cha) averted death, on T:4167 20:45 do you revgen W's or wish for pots? 20:45 a lot of people don't like to level up because of monster generation and archons etc 20:45 i just take wraiths from the valley usually 20:46 but that's vanilla stuff, as far as people not leveling up. I mean, if you are playing a valkyrie it doesn't make sense to level up 20:46 you can get HP other ways 20:46 alchemy 20:46 nurse 20:46 yep 20:47 but in 'nilla, I don't want to lvl up because of Demo, but in evil, it's unavoidable 20:47 !whereis nabru 20:47 nabru: [hdf-us] nabru [slex]: (Ele Asg Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 20:47 I don't think xp has anything to do with whether you face demo 20:47 is that what you mean? 20:47 in vanilla, someone has to summon him 20:47 I thought the higher your xp, the greater the probability of mobs that can summon him 20:48 usually orcus 20:48 oh maybe.. I dunno 20:48 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Ele Asg Fem Law), 123 points, T:196, killed by an orcish spear 20:48 I've always heard people worry about Archons spawning 20:48 they can't spawn in gehennom 20:48 but they can on the run up when you have the amulet 20:48 so you just lure the W's out of VotD into castle? 20:48 but when you have the amulet it sets your max dungeon level to the sanctum 20:49 in vanilla it depends on the demon lord/prince distinction 20:49 well the castle doesn't really leave corpses 20:49 oops - so you go down one lvl? 20:49 so you need to bring them either the levell above the castle (if it's not medusa) 20:49 or down (if it's not asmodeus) 20:49 wow - sounds like a lot of work 20:49 but usually i have the eota and I just branchport and the wraiths come with 20:49 ah - that's the smart way 20:50 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:51 i think you can cursed teleport similarly surrounded by 4 wraiths and they come with 20:52 ah - I like cursed tele 20:52 but yeah in evilhack all the demons have their own lairs 20:52 you know that right? 20:53 so you have to fight all of them. even the ones you don't always see in vanilla 20:53 I read about that - a lair looks like Asmodeus' or Baalzebub in 'nilla? One lvl? 20:53 (yenooghu geryon dispater demo) 20:53 they're all unique (the levels) 20:54 but they're one lvl - not like a tower, or quest levels, right? 20:54 yep just one level 20:54 geryon I've never seen in any of my runs 20:54 yeah he's rare 20:54 something has to gate him in 20:54 he's a joke tho. so is dispater 20:55 I hear Vlad's nasty 20:55 yeah and remember to levitate or fly 20:55 i fallen to my death twice now at vlad's 20:56 oh... ...thx for tip! 20:56 i almost didn't want to spoil it 20:56 ok - I just got deathly sick by gray fungus - burned a #pray 20:56 too much nastiness - I almost gave up on evil after my last run 20:56 but it really sucks. i watched elenmirie (who is WAY better at nh than me) fall to her death and I've still done it twice 20:58 i like the new Vlads other than the whole falling thing 21:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1200 points, T:1845, killed by a pony 21:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Cen Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:3452 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18156 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire giant, on T:7450 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 18591 points, T:7699, killed by an ettin mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:17 hm, slex on the US server is still showing the "Waiting for access to record (XX retries left)" error 21:17 yeah, same here 21:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 21:19 rebatela eraserhead97 you can't levelport wraiths out of the VotD as long as Cerberus lives 21:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:26 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] Kat (Lyra) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 39695 points, T:6107, killed by a mumak 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1410 points, T:2024, killed by Mr. Rath Luirc; the shopkeeper 21:32 LMAO a shambling horror just one-shot vorpal decapitated me 21:33 <@microlance> vlad and the demons overalls feels easier in evilhack to me then in nh370. because it feels like its easier to steal their stair camping position. 21:33 instadeath evilhack style 21:33 <@microlance> might be i didnt even know about that thing most of my nh370 runs in gehennom 21:33 <@microlance> though 21:38 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 802 points, T:916, killed by a hobbit 21:39 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 21:39 mobileuser Cerberus sounds nasty 21:39 yeah i was leading them out through the castle and up a level above last time. 21:40 didn't have eye (although i blew 3 wishes trying to get it) 21:40 He is nasty, but with low enough AC not too difficult 21:40 yeah by the time you get there, you should be able to take him 21:40 he's mostly melee/physical damage? 21:40 yes 21:41 no weird magic :-) 21:41 [backscroll] to hit anything that is incorporeal, the object you use has to either be blessed, or made of silver or bone 21:41 blessed, silver, or bone - TY 21:41 mobileuser doh... you got a bad shambler there. its so random 21:41 K2 vorpal ability for shambling horror, really???? 21:41 yup 21:41 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:41 its very random 21:41 ha :-) 21:42 you could either get a harmless one that a violet fungus could kill, or get one that makes demogorgon run away from in fear 21:42 or anything inbetween 21:42 yeah it's a surprise every game 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh4] Ina (Lyra) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 31805 points, T:2442, killed by a paper golem 21:43 i lost a promising game in sporkhack to one, it was crazy nuts powerful 21:43 but instadeath was a rather big surprise :b 21:43 well the vorpal attack is one in 20? 21:43 so you just got unlucky with the roll 21:44 yeah, but sooner or later one would have gotten me, because there is no way to know 21:44 probs 21:44 any shambler i come across i treat it like the plague, try to kill it from distance as fast as i can 21:45 lesson learned 21:45 do they always show up as 5 in warning? 21:45 in any variant that has them 21:45 there's a few 21:45 rebatela no they dont 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 465 points, T:848, killed by a dwarf zombie 21:45 it all depends on how they spawn 21:45 oh ok beause in my last game they were 5's 21:45 and i was being careful 21:46 [backscroll] bouquet yup we got about 2 inches of snow overnight and it lightly snowed on/off all day here 21:46 tiny bit left 21:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] Kina (Lyra) (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 13969 points, T:785, quit 21:47 we had big flakes here outside of Boston this morning (didn't stick) 21:48 pretty though and odd for 5/9 21:48 for up here not so much. few years ago on mothers day we got over 2 feet 21:48 but it was gone within 48 hrs 21:48 last few winters have been mild so its kinda nice to see a cool spring for once 21:49 how long have you lived in VT k2? are you from there? 21:49 moved here in 2009 21:49 love it 21:49 right on 21:49 i'm from oklahoma 21:49 yeah i knew you were a transplant. 21:49 cool 21:49 i dont miss oklahoma 21:50 10 years + tho 21:50 no? never? 21:50 not really 21:51 does it snow there? 21:51 only reason i ever go back is to see my dad 21:51 -!- buzel has joined #hardfought 21:51 it used to, a lot back in the 80's 21:51 not anymore 21:51 lobal warming and all that jazz 21:51 *global 21:52 for sure 21:52 ok - I locked the door to the temple in minetown since I didn't have a chest 21:52 it's really flat though right? 21:52 when I came back to unlock the door, I aggro'ed the guards 21:52 lame 21:52 yeah if you take too long unlocking the door i think is what bothers them 21:52 did you have like a cursed lock pick you were jimmying with or something? 21:53 nope - just a normal key 21:53 eraserhead97 thats vanilla behavior 21:53 but, more improtantly good luck thinking your stash is safe behind a door in minetown 21:53 <@winny> i forgot i was in the discord too, neat 21:53 oh hai @winny 21:53 well, I keep forgetting to lock my stash - mobs keep going through it 21:53 the guard will just unlock the door for the fun of it and everything will go at your stash 21:54 put stash under a boulder if you can find one 21:54 ic 21:54 <@winny> need to ascend my valk, i think the save is from last year 21:54 then you only have to worry about giants 21:54 well, I can't revisit minetown until I can wipe out the guards - fortunately, I haven't paid for protection yet 21:55 but I think I lose the ESP intrinsic from murder? I forget 21:55 what role are you? 21:55 <@Pacra> @winny now is a good time to ascend it : D 21:55 samurai lawful 21:55 if you can cast sleep spell (or have the wand) 21:55 sleep works well on guards so you can do what you gotta do 21:55 @Pacra didnt you say you have family in VT? 21:55 mad river valley? 21:55 i mean, your stuff is safe if you aren't on the level. But monsters will rummage through chests 21:55 <@Pacra> yep 21:56 cool 21:56 <@Pacra> i never knew what interstates without billboards were like until I went to VT 21:56 :) 21:56 <@Pacra> life changing 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2392 21:56 just and trees and mountains 21:57 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 21:59 @Pacra - blue circle is me - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2498/source 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:5471 22:01 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5951 22:04 damn - wishing for artifacts in evil comes with the owner 50/50? rofl too funny 22:05 In wonder what will happen if I wish for Cali (would King Arthur appear?)... 22:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3682 22:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:07 eraserhead97 no just a player monster knight 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:6451 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:3980 22:09 <@riker> time to locate k2 off of google maps 22:10 dammit WoW (1:0) - only wrestle 22:10 <@riker> listen, you got an early wish regardless :p 22:10 <@riker> don't look a gift orc in the mouth 22:10 lol 22:11 gift orc lol 22:11 or the orc got the early wish - but I got the GDSM and CoP 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2518 points, T:4251, killed by a gray unicorn 22:12 I'll prolly try to wrestle for GoP - my Str got whittled down to 14 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7200 22:13 oh, wait - I forgot that there's dragonhide - maybe there's something better I can wish for... 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:52272 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 11234 points, T:7523, killed by a spotted jelly 22:16 <@Pacra> @K2 awesome 22:16 <@Pacra> whats the tons of dirt around that house 22:16 <@Pacra> are they on a hill 22:16 can I wish for blessed fixed +3 mithril gauntlets of power? 22:16 construction 22:16 <@Pacra> to your southwest 22:16 <@Pacra> ahh 22:16 pic is a couple yrs old 22:16 eraserhead97 yes 22:17 <@Pacra> @eraserhead97 dont look a gift wand in the mouth :] 22:18 woah - there's gemstone (I'm getting greedy now!) 22:20 ah - base item type must be of dwarvish make - k mithril it is ^^ 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1198 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) , on T:1209 22:22 [hdf-us] [slex] omghax (Ass Ali Mal Cha), 108 points, T:232, killed by sinking in shifting sand 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 611 points, T:1632, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 30 points, T:513, killed by a water moccasin 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] Theresa (Lyra) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 41640 points, T:4588, killed by a giant ant 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1083 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1469 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1119 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 453 points, T:1249, killed by a giant spider 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:1762 22:34 *blink* what does that message mean? 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 879 points, T:1226, killed by a dwarf 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:52452 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 2363 points, T:2305, killed by a black unicorn 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) , on T:1050 22:43 why would there be four prices for a scroll with the same name? I understand two - one for blessed and one for not blessed and/or cursed. 22:43 never mind. I read the scroll names wrong. 22:44 <@Sig> BUC doesn’t affect scroll prices I don’t think 22:44 i thought blessed increased the price slightly. 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 414 points, T:1575, killed by an orcish dagger 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1045 22:48 <@Sig> Don’t see anything about that on the wiki. It’d have to be really recent if that were the case. 22:50 <@Sig> Sometimes the price gets multiplied by 4/3 but that’s at random, not to do with BUC. 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6297 22:52 oh, okay. i didn't realize it was random, always just assumed it was b/u/c. 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:52950 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Venzar's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2577 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 8297 points, T:6486, killed by a ranseur 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3137 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:3221 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3980 23:02 @K2 - do you know what that message is - [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:3221 23:03 lastest 3.7 update added 8 new achievements (new ranks as you level up) 23:03 livelogging isnt a vanilla thing, we havent adjusted the livelogging code yet to account for the new achievements 23:04 ah. gotcha. 23:04 waiting to talk to Tangles about it, the livelogging is his baby 23:04 he knows it way better than I do 23:05 i'm afraid i'll break things if i try to adjust it 23:07 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 23:07 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 23:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 23:09 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:5176 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) , on T:1059 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1107 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6323 23:30 Isn't that a wizard-mode-only line? 23:30 Gotta love that. 23:31 As one of the achievements is for reaching level 3, that might get spammy 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2153 23:33 <{Demo}1> when I see "traditional: by monster level..." it just makes me want some traditional wings from bdubs 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 2830 points, T:4428, killed by a rothe 23:34 <{Demo}1> I hope tonight I'll dream of tender, flavorful meats 23:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] Pacra (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 1959 points, T:2114, killed by a kitten 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:7062 23:42 gotta love orctown and a bag of tricks. :) 23:42 {Demo}1 hah 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) traditional: by monster level, by internal monster index, on T:3377 23:43 \o/ 23:45 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1753 points, T:3600, killed by a soldier ant 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Venzar's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:7742 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) by monster toughness, by internal monster index, on T:8019 23:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 23:53 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 459 points, T:1163, killed by a goblin 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:8025