00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] ripley (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1760 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:3541 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] ripley (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1818 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2492 points, T:1849, killed by a human zombie 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] ripley (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1666 points, T:1881, killed by a priestess of Raijin 00:24 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4585 00:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:926 00:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:1145 01:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu) was given the Atma Weapon, on T:2563 01:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu) was given Giantslayer, on T:3527 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 271 points, T:435, killed by a giant cockroach 01:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:36 ooh nice, full moon 02:36 !pom 02:36 raisse: The moon is full for 3 more days. 02:42 F 02:42 Attempts were made 02:42 Om nom nom 02:48 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:59 oh she was neutral, no wonder 02:59 the lady of the lake is an alignmentist 03:01 I mean better whatever that is than handing a hostile intelligent longsword to someone so they can be blasted to death 03:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9617 points, T:7277, killed by an invisible stalker, while praying 03:10 <@microlance> i didnt try to get excalibur i was trying to get the cheapskates blessing on it, or a wish 03:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:55565 03:13 <@microlance> then i killed myself on literally the last monster in sokoban by just holding down a key. a heroes death 03:16 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:33 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:36 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Ran Hob Mal Neu), 4074 points, T:3716, killed by a gnome queen, while sleeping 03:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:56 -!- greenbourne277 has quit [*.net *.split] 03:56 -!- MaryHadalittle has quit [*.net *.split] 04:01 -!- greenbourne277 has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- MaryHadalittle has joined #hardfought 04:10 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 822 points, T:1923, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 04:23 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:09 -!- drunkmonkey711 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 05:33 eh: just found an ettin trapped in an iron bar enclosure. I have no idea if there is any game play point or if it's just scenery :-) 05:35 Did it kill you? 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58588 05:36 no? 05:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58597 05:36 "and over here in our exhibit, we have the two-headed giant known as an ettin" 05:37 hah, hell hound breathed fire across the moat and created fog 05:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:58642 05:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:58780 05:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:58782 05:51 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:58899 06:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:59016 06:02 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:59118 06:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:59121 06:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:11 I found a +1 wooden dented pot! 06:13 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:59272 06:20 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 3265782 points, T:59319, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1588399678.nh.html 06:25 congrats! 06:26 thanks, musicdemon! 06:26 wo many purple worm buddies 06:26 so* 06:26 I hear black dragons work better in Evil 06:26 elenmirie_: clearly the materials patch needs some work. 06:27 congrats, oh6! 06:27 thanks, elenmirie_! 06:28 hackedhead: I think my favourite was when one of the angry priests in the sanctum whacked me with a glass mace 06:28 "single use mace" 06:28 heh 06:37 hmmm..... 06:37 should I bring a minotaur into minetown? 06:37 ... should I let a minotaur go feral outside minetown? 06:37 the latter seems worse.... 06:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:38 I guess tripe will not re-tame a minotaur... 06:38 it will not. minotaurs won't go feral very fast though, because they eat everything they kill 06:42 I'd let the minotaur kill everyone and buy protection from the priest 06:42 then kill the priest and get the money back :^) 06:48 lol, classic 06:54 i love when there are multiple temples especially cross aligned because then I just kill the priest myself 06:54 co-aligned you definitely want the pet to do it lol 06:55 <@Sweet Bodhi> i found an invisible lich boxed into a room 06:55 <@Sweet Bodhi> that was scary 06:56 Yeah, that's a thing now. 06:56 Don't open it. 06:57 "and over here in our exhibit, we have an invisible undead creature known as a lich, just trust us - it's there" 06:59 <@Sweet Bodhi> heh 07:05 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- aioe has joined #hardfought 07:38 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:52 shield of reflection is gold, should watch out for leprechauns... 07:54 mobileuser: well all you really need to do is find a non-gold one 07:57 ha! 07:58 after I find a BoH preferably :-) 07:59 stupid barbarian NPC just killed himself while zapping a wand of death at my shiny golden shield 08:00 YANI: the master key of thievery is intelligent, it should also offer to untrap a door or container when it is NOT locked 08:01 morning 08:01 afternoon 08:02 YANI refinement: who wants all those extra prompts? While carrying the Master Key, all door/container traps that would have automatically triggered are just silently deleted. 08:03 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:03 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 08:03 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:03 If you WANT to trigger a trap, drop or bag the key. 08:03 even better 08:05 except when cursed for rogues or non-blessed for other roles 08:07 the barbarian NPC had an unknown type bag... probably oilskin but one can hope... 08:08 cursed skeleton keys should sometimes spawn spoopy skellingtons 08:09 lol! 08:10 triggered by... what? 08:11 unlocking stuff, idk 08:16 impaled him (he's supposed to be a knight, right?) on my lance, how totally humiliating for him :P 08:16 LarienTelrunya hi *fleecy* 08:16 lol 08:16 yo K2! what's going on? 08:16 can I nitpick for a sec? 08:17 yeah I guess? 08:17 [hdf-eu] [slex] Tiffany(AmyBSOD) (Fem She Fem Neu) 08:17 ? is that an incorrect format? 08:17 with nh4, fiqhack etc, there's a space between the two names 08:17 it would be like this - Tiffany (AmyBSOD) 08:17 uhh where is that being defined again... livelog.c? 08:17 OCD is going off hard today 08:18 i dunno you tell me, its your variant 08:18 yeah but the bot is getting it from the "livelog" file, right? 08:18 ahh I see it 08:18 :P 08:18 you dont have to adjust it. just saying... 08:18 okay couple of instances in that file, but they all use the same format so this will be an easy fix 08:19 cool 08:19 nah I can fix it, and I'll also really look into the extrainfo thing, there's got to be a way to make it align properly so that it's the same as the other variants 08:19 my OCD thanks you 08:20 also I want to sing "You-have-very-cute-finger-nails-♥♥♥!" :D 08:21 alright both of those are on the todo list now 08:21 lol 08:25 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 08:28 rip amulet of life saving 08:30 pour one out for ya homie :( 08:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3273 points, T:3092, killed by a watch captain 08:34 Hey again all! I was wondering if my huge AC is in danger if i now start to extinct watchmen and guards as a neutral tourist? Will only my alignment drop into the abyss or could the Lady even get angry with me at some point? 08:37 heya eLtMosen, i believe you'll only lose your ac protection if you kill the priest that gave it to you 08:37 but get a second opinion 08:37 I think any murder as neutral? 08:38 i cant remember 08:38 oh just telepathy 08:38 not protection 08:39 I'm fairly sure you can kill the priest that gave it to you 08:39 That was my fear. @mobileuser 08:39 if they're not the same alignment as you 08:40 I could make up for the alignement loss with some more offerfodder but loosing -127 AC would make me skip guards & watchmen for this run :D 08:40 hah wtf 08:40 ask how much HP he has ;-) 08:41 I read the wiki and came to no clue what would happen if i start to kill guards en mass 08:41 how much HP do you have 08:41 9999? 08:41 ~8800 08:41 wtf 08:41 hehe 08:42 I was aiming for 9999 but maan, i drank like 150 potions of full+extra heal in a row and ened up there 08:42 if a pet kills a monster, does that count toward extiction? 08:42 sorry, spelling... 08:42 Most HP is from offeirng for the AC. Only 1/20 of the prays gave AC. Most gave spellboks and HP 08:42 It counts for the monster generation 08:42 But not for the kills 08:43 shame :-) 08:43 there are different approacheds to extinction. One is to generate all monsters and not even kill them afaik. To pacifist extictionist would be possible 08:44 extinct in nethack is 120 monsters generated. 08:44 but how do you get 120 watchmen?? 08:44 but yeah, killing them all is more satisfyiing for the 360 unicorn horsn to polypile alone :D 08:45 reverse genocide one, then stone with trice corps and unstone with spell. Kind of retarded but the challenge is to organize resources to even be able to. 08:46 aaah of course... 08:46 I have 255 woodchuck and killer bee kills already. rofl 08:47 if you rev gen a watchman, won't it be hostile? 08:47 Killer Bees burn a lot of cursed genocide scrolls tho. I figure they are to small and turn to rocks instead of statue for the most time. So Killer bees took 30 scrolls and two trice corpse 08:49 ah, i mean queen bees obviously. Killer bees where a lots in medusas 30 trees lvl 08:49 *gotta kick em all* 08:49 pokemonhack 08:50 K2, i am sure i loose my AC as soon as i anger the Lady or the oher god i might have gotten protection from. 08:50 but is a rev genned watchman peaceful or hostile? 08:51 But my AC is solely granted by the lady at this point since i lost massive AC in early mistaken offering humans 08:51 I guess it might be hostile, but what about him being human, does that matter? 08:52 no problem if hostile if I read the wiki correctly 08:52 Thanks, i was under same impression :D 08:52 "This only applies to humans who were generated as peaceful", so.... 08:52 Doe make wearing confict make them hostile? 08:53 no, it just makes them attack you 08:53 sry 4 typos 08:53 hehe 08:53 status remains peaceful 08:53 until you attack them 08:53 Good, i will try then if they are hostile and decide from there. Thx! 08:54 good luck! 08:56 only a few hours till the long weekend 08:56 can I survive that long 09:00 !tea amateurhour 09:00 * Beholder pours amateurhour a fifth of polka-dot tea, conjured by the /dev/null/oracle at 187 Kelvin. 09:02 !booze everyone 09:02 * Beholder hands everyone a barrel of moonshine, fermented by demogorgon at 162 degrees Fahrenheit. 09:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:02 hot! 09:02 Prost! 09:03 cheers! 09:03 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 09:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 09:07 !coffee 09:07 * Beholder hands nabru a potion of cafe latte, conjured by Arsinoe at 104 degrees Fahrenheit. 09:10 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3368 09:18 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1665 points, T:3841, dismembered by a little dog 09:19 schweet 09:22 you lose protection if you kill any priest of your alignment (not just the one who gave to you) 09:23 and you can kill the priest who gave it to you if he's different alignment 09:26 good thing there are NPC's in eh, finally a stethoscope by robbing a healer 09:26 lmao. I even entered his level holding the amulet, but i went downstairs and dropped it before he woke up 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh4] Cali (Lyra) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 21985 points, T:881, killed by a wererat 09:26 you fool, Baalzebub 09:29 !rng caffeine via coffee | caffeine via intravenous drip 09:29 amateurhour: caffeine via intravenous drip 09:30 ok thx 09:35 sucker 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25831 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] Akari (Lyra) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 21368 points, T:1002, killed by a jackal 09:36 bribing demons while the amulet is on the floor below is a favourite of mine 09:38 rebatela, thx! never dared to kill an priest myself as soon as i got devine ac :D But good to know. 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:25860 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:26408 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] arnibald (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 304 points, T:1481, killed by a giant bat 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4035 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 47975 points, T:10406, killed by an elf-lord 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4163 10:00 holy crap cthulhu just registered at my forum 10:01 For reasons our puny brains could not comprehend without exploding 10:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:02 polearms ftw ♥ 10:05 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: :wq!] 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4625 10:07 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 10:07 Indeed 10:07 Can't touch this 10:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3525 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2925 points, T:4845, killed by a panther 10:16 oops. managed to get bored enough on the plane of water that i didn't notice hungry/weak until I fainted once and managed not to die 10:17 nearly there! 10:18 YANI: In variants that have healthstones and also let you eat rocks in the right polyform, you can eat healthstones for the equivalent of a potion of healing. 10:20 DIRGE 10:20 aosdict: heh, in slex eating a healthstone can in- or decrease maximum HP depending on the stone's BUC 10:20 ^ that's how you do it 10:21 can't remember the last time the water plane was this uncooperative 10:21 I'm surprised that this is a YANI, that should be in the first implementation :-) 10:21 <@microlance> zombie elf worked there 10:21 LarienTelrunya: I was going to make a special case saying it would be +1 maxhp, but then realized pot of healing already does this 10:21 bhaak: maybe it is already the case in slash'em 10:22 slex is the only variant where you can even eat lithic items 10:22 and while there is a funny message for eating a flint stone, you can't actually *see* it unless you play slex 10:22 yeah astral plane 10:23 there isn't ONE other variant that wasn't interested in using that yabba-dabba delicious message? 10:23 apparently not; M3_LITHIVORE isn't a thing anywhere else (except slashthem but that doesn't really count, 10 bucks says it even removed all the monsters that had it :P) 10:26 interesting 10:30 <@microlance> the demonlords are too fast in evilhack they're almost impossible to get rid of without teleport 10:30 <@microlance> when you get one with same race sacc 10:30 !PoM 10:30 APic: The moon is full for 3 more days. 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:39028 10:33 woooooooo i did it 10:33 home!! 10:33 congrats 10:34 wuhu go me 10:34 ... DIRGE 10:34 congrats aioe 10:34 \o/ 10:35 thanks 10:35 <@microlance> i got rid of yeenoghu, yay. i accidently aggroed a shopkeeper who hit him with a wand and i got away! 10:36 congrats 10:36 <@microlance> does dirge keep the base longswords object material or is it mithril? 10:36 ta 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of polymorph control", on T:39202 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:29205 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:29205 10:39 in that game I was actually over-prepared to some extent 10:39 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:9, exterminated by a sewer rat 10:39 -35 AC lmao 10:40 so unnecessary 10:40 but i had a lot of scrolls and stuff so 10:41 gratz aioe ! 10:41 thanks 10:41 "the giant captain picks up a key" 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Madonna, her faithful kitten, on T:20 10:42 Actually is the wand in a crystal chest now or did i dream that? 10:42 I hope you dreamed that, I can't open crystal chests in most of my evilhack games 10:43 it's better than a giant wishing up an archon and getting to the wand 0:0. TRUST me 10:43 Nice aioe! Congrats! 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1445 10:44 Ah, You can swap Places with peaceful Monsters now 10:44 Very nice 10:45 @microlance its mithril 10:45 <@microlance> okay 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:29712 10:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 302 points, T:572, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 135 points, T:524, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Rainbow Dash 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1916 11:17 yesssss, long weekend has begun 11:19 holiday tomorrow? 11:20 * aosdict petitions for "mother's day observed" as a holiday 11:20 We had a long weekend last week (labour day) 11:21 but when you're working from home, all the days pretty much blur 11:21 yes, it's victory in europe day 11:22 if mother's day had a consistent day in each country I'd suggest a YANI of YAFM if you lay an egg on that day 11:23 yay holidays 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2107 11:28 YANI: If a guard is killed in a vault, close the vault completely and not only the tile the guard died on 11:29 wdym "close" it 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:2331 11:30 If there are eg. two tunnel into the vault, close both. If the vault walls are missing completely respawn them 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2360 points, T:2363, killed by a crocodile 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3056 11:36 hm. is there a tnnt accomplishment for killing a guard? 11:36 don't think so 11:36 tell a guard your realname 255 times. lol 11:38 I think it falls in the gray area of 'do we want to require murder in order to get All Achievements' 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3326 11:38 i've never killed a guard. never even attempted it 11:38 why is that a grey area? 11:38 also, lying to a guard is an achievement already, is it that much more interesting to also have to kill one 11:39 i don't know, i've never killed a guard 11:39 only in extinct context, else i have a problem with murder too and would not like to further that in any way. even virtually 11:39 they aren't particularly interesting in combat 11:39 <{Demo}1> guards are feds 11:39 <{Demo}1> chaotics should get a lot of bonus alignment for killing feds 11:40 Still, thats why my suggestion above, sentence guard murder harder by locking the subject in :D 11:43 Even harder, replace all diggable wall tiles with iron bars as if a iron cage dropps down. 11:45 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 916 points, T:3326, killed by a giant bat, while helpless 11:46 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 150 points, T:325, killed by a magic missile 11:46 <{Demo}1> huh? content base changes for un? 11:48 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:48 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest28169 11:48 -!- Guest28169 has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:48 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5560 11:51 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1151 points, T:257, done in by a giant bat 11:53 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:57 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1293 12:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7183 12:06 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 414 points, T:2039, killed by a wererat 12:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:14 gah. should've death wanded it, forgot unicorns have decent monMR 12:15 tried to tame it with a scroll 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) stole 13 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Eed-morra's hardware store, on T:4915 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 2271 points, T:4930, killed by a watch captain, while sleeping 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:4042 12:31 -!- AudreyanaMi has joined #hardfought 12:33 -!- AudreyanaMi has quit [Client Quit] 12:34 <@Sweet Bodhi> whens forever quarantine 12:42 fux 2 the year 12:42 yeah* 12:42 <{Demo}1> epic 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5315 12:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 12:45 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 12:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had a pair of walking shoes entrusted to her by Kos, on T:1048 12:50 d'oh 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 4301 points, T:5629, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:67854 12:51 blessed +5 12:51 wewp 12:51 they're telling you to get a move on 12:51 not bad really at t:1048 12:52 at least they won't rust 12:52 i never knew orcish boots were iron until they rusted on me 13:01 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 469 points, T:2219, killed by a sonic beam 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:29740 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:29743 13:11 does anyone remember how the 'ctrl+c' bug worked? 13:11 something to do with being invulnerable 13:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:29 xnethack is calling me... lets see what damage i can do today 13:30 heya K2 13:30 sup 13:30 I'm enjoying evilhack 13:30 awesome 13:30 considering I've survived to finally get to minetown 13:31 heh 13:31 glad you're enjoying it 13:31 my concern is that I'm going to spend so long getting my shit together that the monster spawn rate will hit 8x before I achieve my usual level of Real Ultimate Power. 13:32 and a megakobold will wipe the floor with my soft face 13:32 :) 13:33 nah that wont happen 13:33 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Monster_spawn_rates 13:33 somehow the old news of spawn rates increasing with turncount went viral 13:33 i think so 13:34 we're under new management now 13:34 thank you for clarifying that 13:34 ya, I thought it was turn based. That's a relief. 13:34 derp about as much as you like :^) 13:34 it used to be turn-based 13:34 and then a Better Way™ was shown to me 13:35 encourage people to go slow by making it harder 13:35 then slap them in the face with more monsters as punishment for going slow 13:35 >:^) 13:35 heh 13:35 if you reach 100k turns, spawn rate 100x normal 13:36 ^ kidding 13:36 brb 13:36 ha ha kidding 13:36 (for now >:^) brb) 13:36 -!- dk657 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1438 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1449 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1481 13:38 "ain't nobody got time for that" 13:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:8688 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1289 points, T:1954, killed by a raven 13:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8788 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1322 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7 points, T:32, killed by a water moccasin 13:46 a spawn rate of 100x normal would be a new monster every 0.7 turns. not gonna happen :) 13:47 This would be hell, but at the same time interesting 13:47 would maybe make extinction conduct easier to do 13:47 I knew my time was up. 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Cen Fem Neu), 44737 points, T:15168, killed by a leocrotta 13:48 15k turns. Basically ascended, nbd 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1697 13:49 how you like centaur? 13:49 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:1823 13:52 <{Demo}1> mass extinction. deplanetization. biomatter shortage. thermal vents opening. dungeons of doom 2030 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:19317 13:55 You begin praying to Lugh. You are surrounded by a shimmering light. The saddled warhorse picks up an uncursed clear potion. You finish your prayer. The potions on the altar glow light blue for a moment. You feel that Lugh is well-pleased. 13:55 the one potion didnt get blessed 13:55 fuckin horse 13:56 #name m > disappointment 13:57 i named it 'Fucker' 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 534 points, T:2141, poisoned by a rabid rat 13:57 back to my earlier question, I remember there being a bug a long time ago with nethack on servers 13:58 where you could press ctrl+c under some conditions 13:58 to be invulnerable 13:58 heh 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4334 points, T:2696, killed by a dwarf 13:58 basically quitting would let you become invulnerable 13:58 and I see a line in nethack TNG where it's referencing that, I think 13:59 oh it's still in vanilla 13:59 <{Demo}1> id guess hanging up during prayer 13:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu), 55887 points, T:11061, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 14:00 sounds likely 14:01 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3343 14:02 which variants have potion of invulnerability? 14:03 slashem maybe 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5012 14:06 K2: how'd you do a water prayer where your horse was capable of removing the potion 14:06 i was riding it still 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1336 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1485 14:09 I liked barbarian centaur, you basically start out with jumping boots for free. 14:09 jump out of trouble 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 230 points, T:632, killed by a water elemental 14:13 mobileuser: does it still cost d25 nutrition per jump 14:14 and hmm... effectively weightless jumping boots from T:1, BUT you can never wear any actual boots... 14:16 classic nethack fridge logic: the hero is athletic enough to roll massive boulders around like it's nothing, but is utterly incapable of jumping a few feet away without magic boots 14:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:19041 14:22 aosdict: the MMoM is unchanged from vanilla correct? (in xnethack) 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed KnightLite's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:3200 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:34135 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:23712 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34143 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7120 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 49307 points, T:23935, killed by an ochre jelly, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:28 my kingdom for a bag 14:29 at this point a sack will do 14:29 what kingdom? 14:29 here. have this bag of tricks 14:29 is it worth a cursed sack? 14:29 Bob, show elenmirie_ what's behind curtain #3 14:29 * elenmirie_ gives K2 the sack 14:29 yay 14:30 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/get%20the%20sack 14:31 I understand your pain 14:31 Yesterday I had the same difficult finding a bag 14:31 *difficltuy 14:31 *difficulty 14:31 spelling is hard 14:31 papa's got a brand new bag 14:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Tou Hob Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4679 14:37 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 14:37 how do I hit a ghost in EVIL? 14:38 blessed or enchanted or silver/bone material 14:40 K2: I wouldn't say it'll stay that way forever, but yeah right now the Mirror is unchanged 14:40 ok 14:41 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Gae Bulg bestowed upon him by Set, on T:5826 14:45 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:46 aosdict for melee types jumping boots + helm of speed is my preferred combination anyway, I didn't really miss not being able to wear boots as centaur. 14:47 giants and monks have bigger problems imo :-) 14:51 @K2 ty 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Muad's ghost, the former Pawn, on T:4464 14:53 I've found 2 BoH early in this game 14:53 dooomed! 14:54 aye - the recursive BoH curse 14:54 gimmie one 14:54 I usually just leave one be - and mark it with #annotate in case I have an accident 14:57 any additional penalties for killing a friendly uni in EVIL? neez the hornz 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Pri Hob Fem Neu), 609 points, T:1721, killed by a giant spider 14:58 nm - not friendly - respawned so often in EVIL that I've lost track of my alignment 8^P 14:58 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Set, on T:6565 15:01 lol - honey badger - I think I'll escape from this one 15:05 Stanley the Honey Badger (NSFW) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ezs2QbuFTQ 15:06 reminds me of Mr. Bill from SNL (sans action scenes) 15:07 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:10 <@microlance> oops the great power of dirge put me into a trance where i forgot to eat 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 5392 points, T:4984, killed by an air elemental of Raijin 15:11 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 15:11 I just thought of a flaw of reading blessed magic mapping at the evil lava castle 15:12 If I know where all the secret doors are, then so do the soldiers 15:12 Bastards already released a black dragon, pet balrog is down, time to bail out and regroup 15:13 @microlance :( 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Hlf Fem Cha), 1540 points, T:1467, killed by a magic missile 15:13 <@microlance> and it might not be the best idea to keep a regen and conflict ring on after clearing the bigroom and exploring 15:15 <@microlance> i just started a monk with the highest con ive ever seen on a monk, 17. i thought 11 was the cap or something 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1205 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:12511 15:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12985 15:22 found a bag! 15:22 OMG 15:22 :P 15:23 praise the sun 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 798 points, T:1999, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:13321 15:24 and its a boh 15:24 nice knowing you 15:25 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 15:25 ikr? 15:25 heya Bliss56 15:25 everytime I find bones I know its a death sentence. 15:25 Heya K2 15:28 Just blew a belt on my sewing machine, so back to nethack. 6 week backlog in repair. 15:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Tou Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1953 15:30 ugh 15:30 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +5 cloak of displacement", on T:202 15:31 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof fireproof +5 speed boots", on T:203 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 18648 points, T:13909, killed by a zruty 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3719 15:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:20671 15:42 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +5 elven mithril-coat", on T:474 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68051 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:34364 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68053 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1642 15:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided cockatrice, on T:20720 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:68166 15:47 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4229 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4236 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4257 15:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:13905 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4302 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:4306 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:68471 15:57 aaargh a soldier got the WoW before me 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:68473 15:57 evilhack? 15:57 ok lesson learned, no blessed enchant magic mapping at the castle 15:57 evilhack yes 15:58 and they zap the WoW in evilhack 15:58 is the castle now a mad dash to the wand so a soldier doesn't steal it? 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3862 points, T:4760, killed by a giant spider, while praying 15:58 they probably wish for stupid shit. "Blessed greased +7 platinum tin opener named Rodney is the Boss" 15:58 mostly. the layout with lava is usually fine, but I stupidly revealed all the doors to them 15:59 The human lieutenant makes a wish for a cloak of protection! 16:00 at least he didn't wish for a blessed figurine of an archon yet 16:00 I hear they do that :-) 16:00 or trice eggs and throw at you? Is that a thing? 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) consumed animal products (candy bar) for the first time, on T:5250 16:01 I don't know and hope not to find out :-) 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:5354 16:02 Well, I have the WoW, there should still be 3 + 1 wishes left 16:02 after I found out what the scroll of charging is 16:06 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1818 16:06 Being an evilhack newb I'm impressed with anyone's ability to get to the castle. I can fly through vanilla, Un, and xnh, but eh is giving me a lot of trouble. 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5518 16:07 TROPHY GET! 16:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 35862 points, T:14213, killed by an owlbear 16:15 evilhack early strategy: in vanilla I go for minetown first and the sokoban, but in evilhack I try to reach sokoban first. 16:15 *then sokoban 16:16 not even to complete it (that's a bonus) but to get any edge to survive the mines 16:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15799 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:70359 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:70498 16:35 [hdf-us] [4k] Atakashi (Sparky) (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:2871 16:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:36 mobileuser: I agree with that strategy 16:36 in addition, sometimes I do some of sokoban to get resources but not the zoo yet 16:37 then minetown 16:37 then back to the zoo (if still alive, which is about 50-50) 16:38 if your role doesn't start with much food, it may be tough just getting to sokoban 16:39 if a load of zombies show up before you get a helmet, it can be tough getting past level 1 16:39 lots of ifs in evilhack :-) 16:39 iffy-squiffy 16:40 Just trying to think of things I do different in evilhack compared to nethack 16:41 one of the strange things is when you find a bones level, but have no blessed weapon 16:41 so you can't hit the ghost 16:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:42 ah yes that was a nasty surprise when I first encountered a ghost :-) 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:70671 16:42 and they immobilize you 16:43 yeah 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:6629 16:43 lots more altar camping fro greater rewards 16:43 first question I ask every goblin early on: have you got a hat? 16:44 hehe 16:44 yes, altar camping 16:44 if you play rogue you can steal the hat :b 16:44 I ascended a rogue without ever using that. Silly of me 16:44 I run away a lot more in evilhack :-) 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 210 points, T:517, killed by a wand 16:45 ah, the ancient spell of run away 16:45 <@Sig> Do elvish cloaks count as magical armor for polypiling? 16:45 I think so 16:46 I know they used to, not sure now 16:46 probably 16:46 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Magical_item#Cloaks 16:46 they re technically magical, even though they've been nerfed 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:70892 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:70899 16:49 all the elven gear used to be polly fodder. did something change? 16:49 polly want a cracker? 16:50 poly* ;) 16:51 elven boots and cloaks are magical because they confer stealth 16:52 * elenmirie_ zaps a wand of poly at polly 16:52 <@Sig> Thanks, I wasn't sure 16:52 good for getting +7 stuff because you can enchant the elven item and then poly 16:52 polly turns into an elder alhoon! 16:52 you die 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2759400 points, T:70922, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1588465881.nh.html 16:52 (in long games.. You see it in extinctionist type games) 16:52 congrats 16:52 oh, yes, the +7 thing, of course 16:52 <@Sig> Congrats Bliss 16:52 congrats Bliss56! 16:53 grats! 16:53 <@Sig> [dnh] I keep getting hit by sleep wands despite having a shield of reflection. I've got sleep res (for now) so it's not a huge deal but I'm not sure why it'd happen 16:53 Incredibly easy astral this time. 16:54 <@riker> sig: hm that's an odd bug, probably has something to do with the old dragonbreath bug 16:55 <@riker> where shields of reflection were supposed to do disint breath, but blocked sleep breath instead 16:55 gratz Bliss! 16:56 "You had expert skill with long sword and two weapons." gotta love samurai 16:57 elenmirie_: theftless rogue? I smell a new unofficial conduct! 16:58 heh, I was just too ignorant to know about it! :D:D 16:58 I'm not sure how useful it actually is 16:58 backstory: I know I've got a past, but I'm determined to turn over a new leaf and walk the straight and narrow 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7078 16:59 can you steal the ice queen's armour...? 16:59 ooh, after you defeat her? Yes! 16:59 that would be something 16:59 nice one, how far can the skill be trained? 17:00 wiki doesn't say 17:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 202392 points, T:25788, killed by an Angel of God the Father 17:00 no clue 17:00 if it fails you anger the peaceful, so better have your escape item ready 17:00 <@riker> altar conversion gone wrong? :( 17:01 <@Sig> Well it wasn't just sleep wands, I got hit by magic missiles there Yeah tried to convert the altar in the Chaos quest and they did more damage than I expected 17:01 <@riker> ouch 17:02 I made the mistake of training far too many weapons. Maybe I should let a mind flayer get to work. 17:02 <@Sig> I probably should have just left the altar alone 17:02 <@Sig> The reflection thing is still weird to me though 17:03 <@riker> it's a bug i think 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 677 points, T:927, killed by a giant rat 17:03 <@riker> it's a bug i think 17:03 looks like master for rogues if I'm reading the source right 17:03 wow that high 17:03 get grinding 17:03 :^) 17:04 this cries out for a wizard mode test 17:04 (hint, hint) 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3357 points, T:5021, killed by a dagger 17:05 * amateurhour loads up wizard mode with an exaggerated sigh 17:05 enjoy the long weekend ;-) 17:05 lots of wiztest time! 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:34593 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:34596 17:12 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:12 go team piranha 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 373 points, T:841, killed by a giant rat 17:16 if luck you can loot her 17:16 wait let me revise that and type like a nonidiot 17:16 I tried with max luck and looted everything she had 17:17 I heard the dogs growl, but she didn't do anything 17:17 :) 17:18 makes sense 17:18 wow, thanks for trying that! good stuff to make it worth the risk? 17:18 any attack towards her, they get angry 17:19 yeah she has good stuff of course 17:19 and you're using shift+f to pickpocket 17:19 amateurhour did you see my latest commits from today :P 17:20 nope, not yet 17:20 but with the way you're phrasing that I'm assuming it's got one like 17:20 'remove thing amateurhour liked' 17:20 lol 17:20 oh ffs 17:20 boulders in soko 17:20 whyyyyyyyyyyy 17:21 lmao 17:21 :D 17:21 next fix: make stealing from the ice queen impossible ;-) 17:22 I think K2 is the variant dev that best exemplifies the 'dev who nerfs all meta strategies as soon as they come to his attention' 17:22 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:22 ^ lies 17:22 "hey wishing for lifestealer could be a good strategy to make vlad ea-" GONE 17:22 :P 17:22 actually that fixed a rn2(0) error 17:22 so nyah 17:23 "hey medusa's easy if you just float behind a pit-" GONE 17:23 right, new strategy, talk about things we actually don't like as though they're the best thing ever 17:23 they'll be gone asap 17:23 :^) 17:23 "Some magical force is preventing you from throwing" oh man 17:24 present tense?! 17:24 if you solve that soko level that goes away 17:24 mobileuser: can you still wield the boulder and hit things with it for d20 damage? 17:25 you can 17:25 could players have polymorphed into a giant and done the boulder strategy? 17:25 if so that's another 200iq strategy removed 17:25 :D 17:25 amateurhour probably 17:26 in vanilla even 17:26 yeah, someone (bhaak?) was considering removing it in vanilla 17:26 at first i was considering just a luck penalty 17:26 but I think such a move should be rewarded personally 17:26 but thats too easy to get back 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] KnightLite (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 12944 points, T:8242, killed by a troll 17:27 hmm 17:27 my persistent unpopular opinion: the game doesn't need an in-game luck stat 17:27 those commits arent live yet 17:28 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1173 17:30 amateurhour, mobileuser - what would you do differently with giants dropping/throwing boulders in soko to fill in the pits 17:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:30 heh, never played giant, I'm just eating popcorn ;-) 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 7120 points, T:2878, killed by a hobbit 17:31 I would leave it as it is for a nice bonus to giants :^) 17:31 * K2 drafts a new commit 'remove things amateurhour likes' 17:31 hah 17:31 :P 17:32 it's not like it gives giants a really big advantage 17:32 it just makes sokoban a bit shorter 17:32 it's just quicker 17:32 yes 17:32 after some thought, I think its more in the spirit of the game to allow giants to drop/throw boulders they bring with them to sokoban, but they should be penalized just as any other player would from cheating in sokoban 17:32 if it works with other races polymorphing as well that'd be sweet 17:33 yeah its not race dependent 17:33 its 'if you do this with a boulder, *boop* this happens' 17:33 or doesnt happen 17:33 hmmm 17:33 HMMMMM 17:34 yeah i think i will change it 17:34 i dont want hothraxxa to beat me *again* 17:34 !gt whinge 17:34 with a slime mold 17:35 lol its not whining 17:35 its player feedback :) 17:36 some of the feedback I've seen is pretty salty ;-) 17:36 i'm used to it 17:36 hehe 17:36 but regardless, it makes me think 17:36 and that's a good thing 17:37 sooo, about lifestealer :^) 17:37 just kidding 17:37 NO 17:37 :P 17:37 hahah 17:37 * K2 shifts lifestealer over to the ice queen 17:38 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 932 points, T:1743, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 17:43 K2 does Beholder notice when you get the castle WoW? 17:44 no, its technically not an achievement 17:44 Ah ok 17:45 oooh the boss brought home take out. food time :P 17:45 boss = wife 17:45 enjoy! 17:45 in TNG they made the castle wand an artifact it seems 17:45 have fun! 17:45 -!- Guest65 has joined #hardfought 17:46 -!- Guest65 has quit [Client Quit] 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 587 points, T:1914, killed by a giant rat 17:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed Orb of Detection", on T:39668 17:58 'n - a +7 dwarvish mithril-coat' Ladies and Gentlemen....We Got 'Em 18:00 Cool 18:00 race/role/align? 18:01 neutral alien Mason (SLEX) 18:02 Oh. 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1973 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:2317 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2106 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4818 18:19 I think if you level theft you probs level up barehanded too 18:21 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:21 like your damage with barehanded probably increases 18:37 -!- amateurhour has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38 haha 18:38 so i tamed a chameleon 18:38 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 18:39 <@Pacra> thats always fun 18:39 shifty changed into a gremlin on a mine level with water and multiplied 18:39 <@Pacra> oh jeez... 18:39 now i have two chameleon pets named shifty 18:39 <@Pacra> are you gonna permamorph them to something else 18:39 <@Pacra> or keep them like that 18:40 i have no polymorph 18:40 i didn't know that they'd both be chameleons. i thought one would stay a gremlin 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:10529 18:43 I mean it's a p. logical result tbh 18:43 <@Pacra> @hothraxxa any polymorph trap in the mines 18:44 <@Pacra> you should be able to polymorph them into something really buff if you have a polymorph trap and get them on it while wearing a ring of protection from shape changers 18:49 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 18:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:55 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3371 18:55 @Pacra isn't that basically the same principle for any pet, but with necessary extra steps because it's a chameleon? 19:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:41020 19:03 <@Pacra> yeah @aosdict im p sure you cant simply polymorph it via any of the usual ways, itll just change again to something else 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3724 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3281 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3391 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had an elven long sword entrusted to her by Kos, on T:12401 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 13438 points, T:8099, killed by a water demon 19:21 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1096 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1151 19:26 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:26 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3189 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3189 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 853 points, T:1698, killed by a poisonous corpse 19:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:41813 19:40 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 464 points, T:1220, killed by a rabid rat 19:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 19:42 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 449 points, T:476, killed by a bat 19:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:42099 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7988 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:9020 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1612 19:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] zor (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 395 points, T:602, killed by a hobbit 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:1914 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed KnightLite's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:9623 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:2505 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:10863 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed sluggoman's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:10868 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3510 20:18 [hdf-us] [fh] galamon (zor) (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 36521 points, T:2657, killed by a warg 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:12362 20:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42 @Pacra I want to see what people do with genetic engineer pets in the new vanilla :) 20:43 i'm probably going to update 370-hdf with the new stuff 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14551 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 9329 points, T:8147, killed by a dwarf king 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:15797 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:16354 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:16674 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:16768 21:06 -!- nabru has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06 spectre died while being terrified of a ghost eh 21:07 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 21:15 looked in the mirror? 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class R, on T:52552 21:33 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Changing host] 21:33 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:24127 21:43 <@Pacra> @microlance that priest is looking good 21:44 <@Pacra> what happened to your knight though? I could have sworn you had a good knight 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:25447 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5303 21:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:24076 21:52 aosdict you cant wish for materials in xnethack can you 21:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 helm of brilliance", on T:24077 21:53 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:28131 22:01 <@microlance> @Pacra i did a lil fuckup with the knight, i wore conflict and regen rings while exploring the floors just below the big room. which meant i got kind of out of rhythm with the food. and started fainting while a sergeant were hitting me with an iron weapon. and yeah the priest found an aklys of fire from one of the first gnomes in the mines, that meant smooth sailing, it more or less oneshot the orcs in orctown 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] avgas (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1763 points, T:4005, killed by a water demon 22:15 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] avgas (Val Hum Fem Law), 200 points, T:1131, killed by Mr. Asidonhopo; the shopkeeper 22:18 <@Pacra> of that's brutal, @microlance 22:19 <@Pacra> did the aklys of fire autoidentify itself on pickup? or hit? 22:21 I imagine on hit 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:14883 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 653 points, T:1192, killed by a giant spider 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] avgas (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1561 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] avgas (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1663 22:31 K2: nerp 22:31 yeah i looked on the wiki 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] avgas (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1767 22:31 this makes me sad 22:32 and I doubt I'll ever add it 22:32 i can wish for an uber powerful quest artifact that doesnt even belng to me, but i cant wish for cloth boots 22:32 just sayin... 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7468 22:33 you say "cloth boots" I say "silver longswords and dragonhide everything" 22:33 you can disallow dragonhide, i get it 22:33 but dammit i want my silver katana of excellence 22:33 also I would disallow questartiwishing if I thought I could get away with it. 22:34 you'll be happy to know I just cleared the VotD, and I am still wearing my elven mithril ring mail 22:35 not that i dont what DSM, but dragons dont seem to want to drop scales 22:36 implementing dtsund-DSM will be fun 22:36 oooh yeah 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 7994 points, T:6737, killed by an exploding wand 22:37 hrm, guess I should have left that behind 22:37 what's the limits on dual-wielding in EVIL with GoP? 22:37 "wtf why are my scales in the cloak slot" "wtf what on earth is a silver-scaled splint mail" 22:37 say longsword + ? 22:37 eraserhead97 there are none with GoP 22:37 coolios - thx 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1197 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 549 points, T:859, killed by a dwarf zombie 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1320 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:3, burned by molten lava 22:50 wonder if skinny dipping still works in evil (walking into deep pools to dilute potions) - gonna try it out 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 964 points, T:2145, killed by a small mimic 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed sluggoman's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:18027 22:51 It ought to, but there's a lot of easily accessible shallow water in the mines. 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 10820 points, T:9143, killed by a snake 22:51 Shallow water is basically a fountain, but risk free. 22:51 (for diluting purposes.) 22:51 eraserhead97, the wiki entry for evilhack is up to date with game mechanic changes. if its not there, it wasnt changed 22:52 ic - thx for tips ^^ 22:52 there might be a handful of minor things i havent added yet, but i cant think of any atm 22:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed fireproof dragonhide +2 oilskin cloak", on T:46901 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36967 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:46906 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:36969 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1050 22:59 hmm... ...I lost invisibility from wand... ...guess it wore off... 23:00 it does 23:00 or can rather 23:00 blessed potion will also wear off? 23:00 yup 23:00 kk - good to know 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:37275 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1620 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1230 23:04 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Ink Mal Cha), 158 points, T:551, zapped himself with a wand 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 841 points, T:2087, killed by a giant bat 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1714 23:05 Yeah, permainvis is no longer a thing from wands and potions 23:06 Which is actually an upgrade, potions have more application and you won't want to unalive if you get a smoky invis potion 23:06 And wands get way more mileage 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1201 points, T:1970, killed by a gnome king 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:37635 23:08 it's not a big nerf anyways, as the window for invis usefulness isn't that large 23:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class L, on T:25348 23:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class h, on T:25349 23:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class U, on T:25349 23:08 hah 23:08 y geno U? in xnh? 23:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class w, on T:25350 23:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class t, on T:25351 23:09 mind flayers are U in xnh 23:09 i forgot 23:09 ohhhh 23:11 what with genetic engineers being a thing now, I may move quantum mechanics back to h. 23:11 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:11 <@Pacra> should have sent a hi world to us via beholder, k2 23:11 Er, wait, they were never on h. 23:11 I said upgrade lol 23:12 heh 23:12 Some variant puts them on h I think and I got confused. 23:12 I mean quantum mechanics needed to not be the only member of their class anyway, imo 23:12 sole-monster classes are a FeelsBad for me 23:13 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1112 23:17 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 2694 points, T:5314, offed by an elf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 563 points, T:1424, killed by a giant bat 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2062 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 108 points, T:464, killed by a black pudding 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1710 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 631 points, T:1803, killed by a giant bat 23:27 oops - forgot I don't have MR - think I'll retreat from Mine's End 23:27 What did you find? 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1015 23:28 just the cellar - was looting - but since I price id'ed a luckstone already - I don't think I'll push my luck in evil 23:29 ah 23:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:25960 23:36 need advice: are unihorns worth blessing in Evil any more? after nerfs? 23:37 -!- bugsniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 23:42 yes 23:42 the increased chance of curing sickness etc. is not changed 23:43 ok - thx ^^ - gonna go camp in soko 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2753 23:47 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:40147 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:40147 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Venzar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1481 points, T:5217, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:40149 23:58 xNetHack updated (all servers) 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:40151