00:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Username (Bin Vam Mal Non), 508 points, T:1277, killed by a brown mold 00:02 <@riker> lol 00:02 <@riker> got 1 or 2? 00:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:04 I got two. 00:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:14 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:22 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:23 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:25 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:39 Congrats @Pacra! (from 3 hours ago) 00:39 Did you move around on Astral by throwing the ball? :) 00:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5533 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5538 00:52 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 364 points, T:677, killed by a piranha 01:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:08 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Kni Ang Nbn Law), 704 points, T:2121, struck down by a monkey 01:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:35107 01:24 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 01:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35187 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:10199 01:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:42 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 01:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:49 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 01:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:11537 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1163 01:52 dammit, yellow light exploded in the zoo 01:52 Ruuuuuuun 01:52 im stuck in the room with the bag of holding 01:52 Ruuuuuuuh roh 01:52 Is the Elbereth scroll still there? 01:53 its still burned in the ground 01:53 Is the scroll still there? 01:54 the scroll turned to dust as i picked it up 01:54 Oof 01:54 gg? 01:55 At least sit there until you're not blind 01:58 can use wand of digging in sokoban can I? 02:00 oh well 02:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:00 You can, yes 02:01 opps, should of tried that 02:01 You can also engrave Elbereth with it. 02:02 so its just teleport that you can't use in sokoban? 02:03 You can't teleport, level teleport, phase through the walls or boulders or pass over the existing traps in any way 02:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:12501 02:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 28096 points, T:12503, killed by a death ray 02:05 <@riker> !lastgame rebatela 02:05 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1588193978.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/dnethack/dumplog/1567799550.dnh.txt 02:06 <@riker> well that sucks 02:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:15 So now that so many changes have been made to NetHack 3.7, I wonder whether the admins here could collaborate with the NetHack dev team to get the 'non-unaligned altars appear in different colours depending on alignment' and 'branch stairs are highlighted' changes pulled into 3.7 02:15 They've already made unaligned altars red. 02:16 (and high altars pink) 02:18 <@riker> pink not magenta for high altars? 02:18 <@riker> or whatever brigth purple is called 02:18 Magenta+bold 02:21 Andrio: there were concerns about terminal support 02:21 it's been brought up 02:21 ah? 02:21 Is it very different from coloured dragons? 02:22 I don't recall the exact conversation; one sec, I can try to dig it up 02:24 Andrio: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/mapglyph.c#L188-L208 02:25 Doesn't that also happen with dragons? 02:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:29 I'm having some trouble parsing it, myself 02:29 could email pat 02:29 mm 02:29 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 02:30 my best guess is that monsters already overload some colour/letter combinations, so it's not too out of the ordinary to see a monster and ; it 02:30 but with altars, an inconsistency is more noticeable and less expected? 02:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:49 !tell K2 I had exactly the same thing with the Red Horse as Pacra on my 0.5 ascension (and congrats Pacra!) 02:49 I'm on it, mobileuser. 02:51 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:00 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Kni Ang Nbn Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3103 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed every's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:3503 03:06 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Kni Ang Nbn Law), 2441 points, T:4457, defeated by an orc-captain 03:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:19 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- moony has quit [Quit: Bye!] 03:24 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:26 -!- jilles has joined #hardfought 03:34 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:34 <@microlance> iron stun is deadly 03:34 <@microlance> or i pissed him off 03:36 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:37 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 03:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 03:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 03:46 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:12 -!- jonadab has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1588 points, T:4101, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 04:16 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:24 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 04:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 04:24 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:31 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 04:31 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43 once you've solved a sokoban level, you can break boulders etc without penalty, correct? 04:45 yeah 04:47 Yes 04:47 You can also move them diagonally again 04:48 Andrio: the color differences are really hard to see. I'd rather say, somehow distinguishing altars with your alignment would make more sense. 04:48 Like #overview does? 04:48 yes 04:48 Hm 04:49 I don't find them hard to see, but I can see how they can be on some terminals 04:49 that would still leave the question open how to do it 04:49 also look at it in ASCII. dark grey _ is almost invisible :) 04:50 Could be simple and make co-aligned altars brown, as ladders are 04:50 or the inverse 04:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:45212 04:52 brown for cross-aligned altars might work 04:52 Yeah 04:55 is this for getting altar colours into vanilla? 04:56 Yes. 04:57 shit wtf just killed me 04:58 every variant uses different colors for altars and of course vanilla will again use different ones from all the established variants, so you have to re-learn them whenever you switch variants :P 04:58 LarienTelrunya: Message from NCommander at 2020-04-29 18:10 EDT: thanks, I'm just going through a really bad time so I'm sorry I'm not around much 04:58 dang it 04:59 it's just like recoloring monsters and shifting their glyphs around, which is likewise implemented differently in every variant! 05:00 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 05:04 LarienTelrunya: altar recoloring is much less standard across altars, if at all. 05:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:45622 05:05 heh, as the old granny who grew up in a world where every altar is gray, all color schemes I've seen for them in variants have been thoroughly confusing to me 05:05 *across variants 05:08 I quite like the 3.7 change for unaligned and astral altars 05:08 I very much not like the 3.6 change where only the high altar of your own deity is supposedly located on astral instead of all the high altars of the aligned gods :P 05:08 literally unplayable 05:10 LarienTelrunya: huh? 05:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:10 in vanilla, entering astral says "you arrive on the astral plane! here the high altars of the aligned gods are located." in 3.6, it says "here the high altar of Amaterasu Omikami is located" 05:10 what's with the altars to Raijin and Susanowo??? 05:11 oh, haven't seen that yet 05:13 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 05:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 05:15 I mean, you don't care about the others :-) 05:21 What will happen to 'the altar glows black/gray/white' messages if the glyph colours are different? 05:22 why would that need to be different? 05:24 it's "wrong" now as well. 05:51 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:07 Those are alignment-related glows, need not be same color as the altars per se 06:08 but it "simplifies" things a lot to have the glyph match the alignment I suppose 06:13 https://bhaak.imgur.com/all 06:13 https://i.imgur.com/65glY1l.png 06:14 is it really obvious to you which of those is what alignement? 06:14 now hide the others, so you only see one. 06:17 these are other tests I've done. https://i.imgur.com/AjQoC6f.png?1 https://i.imgur.com/rzJx6Fv.png (afterwards I found out, there are issues on terminals with less than 256 colors and background colors) 06:22 black altars are the worst for me, my terminal colours might be a little messed up 06:30 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 06:33 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:44 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 06:48 oops, sacrificed a former pet 06:50 all my protection gone 06:51 oof 06:51 :/ 06:51 and all peaceful priests are already dead, oh well :-) 06:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:54 just pay a high priest in the astral plane :^) 06:58 ha! 06:59 I hope the intrinsic "aggravate monster" will not automatically wake up rodney 06:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03 bhaak: I feel like colors could be chosen for altars without using dark gray if that's the sticking point. Yellow for lawful, leave neutral gray, maybe orange for chaotic? 07:03 or bright blue. really any color works because, you know, chaos 07:12 !who 07:12 nabru: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] microlance [evil] mosen [nh370] chip [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 07:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:54 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 07:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:02 [hdf-us] [fh] migla (zor) (Val Dwa Fem Law) let an orc shaman genocide elf mummies, on T:2875 08:08 MORNING 08:08 K2: Message from mobileuser at 2020-04-30 02:49 EDT: I had exactly the same thing with the Red Horse as Pacra on my 0.5 ascension (and congrats Pacra!) 08:08 mobileuser :P 08:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:10 Oh hi! :-) 08:16 HELLO 08:16 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 08:17 10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD!" 08:17 aosdict: I'm always a bit cautious to make the game look more like angry fruit salad. :) 08:19 aosdict: I like to have a good reason for the colors, or at least make them not very unobtrusive. that's why I changed the branch stairs to yellow. noticable, but not as much that it screams into your face 08:21 looking for a new and exciting color to paint his house, Bob chose 'scream into your face' blend. 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh4] Krillin (hackedhead) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 13321 points, T:892, killed by a newt 08:21 <@Suzune Takada> some people forgot black pudding is from the blood of animals 08:22 <@Suzune Takada> so it brakes vegeterian 08:23 Gloriously, some years ago the Dev Team wrote to the beta testers list asking us, since some of us were British, if black pudding is vegetarian. 08:23 heh 08:23 <@Pacra> that's amazing 08:23 how can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?? 08:24 Bah, now I want black pudding 08:25 if I ever eat a meal with you, you can have my portion 08:25 om nom 08:26 Pinkbeast come pick me up, we're going to Mulligan's 08:29 Actually I was planning to bring aosdict and, ideally, five other people with the same black pudding donation policy 08:30 i call shotgun 08:32 K2 will bring smoked meat and cheese 08:32 OK, I call BFG 9000 08:32 lol Pinkbeast 08:33 'i call shotgun' means I'm claiming the front passenger seat in whatever vehicle we're traveling in 08:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Bin Orc Mal Non) killed Axus, on T:47738 08:34 but i think i might change it to be BFG 9000 08:34 ^ 08:34 see if it trends 08:35 I was TBH vaguely aware of the expression but none of the vehicles I travel in have front passenger seats, except double-decker busses 08:36 you're picking us up in a double-decker bus? ... i'm ok with that 08:36 more room for the kegs of Guinness 08:37 PARTY BUS 08:37 \o/ 08:37 Step 0, obtain PSV license. Step 1, obtain bus. Step 2, render bus amphibious. Be right with you 08:37 lol 08:39 just buy a duckboat 08:43 heh, my roommate annoyingly always calls rocket launcher, even though I also want to sit on the front passenger seat :P 08:44 who is the driver in this scenario 08:45 some acquaintance 08:45 said acquaintance is also the worst front seat passenger in the world, so if my roommate is at the steering wheel, I get to claim the front seat every time :D 08:48 Pinkbeast: hmm, the UK pluralization of bus is busses? I thought you used buss as a synonym for kiss 08:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Bin Orc Mal Non) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:48520 08:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Bin Orc Mal Non) killed Oona, on T:48658 08:51 never heard of buss. dictionary says it's American English 08:51 <@Pacra> I would love a keg of Guinness right now. 08:54 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3987 08:59 <@Pacra> !lastgame microlance 08:59 @Pacra: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1588244622.evil.html 09:00 <@Pacra> !lastgame microlance role=kni 09:00 @Pacra: No last game for (microlance,role=kni). 09:00 mobileuser: etymonline dates it to 1560s, but it could be one of those words that migrated to America and fell out of use in Britain maybe? 09:01 <@Pacra> oof @microlance, yeenoghu killed your knight game? 09:01 anyway I've never heard anyone actually use it in american english 09:01 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4148 09:02 <@microlance> yeah, i stepped on a magic trap in mines end and got blinded deafened and monsters got summoned. and then i must have walked into him. i just couldnt get him away 09:02 <@microlance> he was an annoying same race summon 09:04 <@microlance> its odd tho that i didnt have telepathy as i had cleared sokoban before 09:04 aosdict also never heard it in the UK 09:07 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 09:07 "Busses" is a largely obsolete form I use sometimes because "buses" also looks wrong and then I can't remember which is which 09:08 I recognise "buss" for "kiss" but I can't remember anyone using it IRL. 09:08 pronounce buses as byoo-ziz and confuse everyone 09:09 K2: i think bfg 9k might have a good chance of trending right now with the new doom 09:09 there's another new doom game out? 09:09 doom eternal? or something like that 09:10 ye 09:10 i never played any doom games past doom II 09:10 by then quake was out 09:12 When Doom I came out I was, like, 3. So I never got to play it during its heyday 09:12 i remember when the first 3dfx voodoo card was released, and there was a patch for quake to render it using opengl 09:12 it was like night and day 09:13 i had a friend who was one of the first to get the card, he had us all come over to see 09:13 this was 1995? 96? 09:13 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 11150 points, T:553, killed by a fox 09:14 revolution in gaming when that happened 09:14 then nvidia hit the scene with its TNT line of cards, 3dfx had competition and here we are 09:14 <{Demo}> and now u spend ur time in the epic future that is 2020 playing a game with worse graphics than u did back then 09:15 and now we spend our time playing text mode games 09:15 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 171 points, T:1685, killed by a coyote 09:16 K2 something funny with weredemons and a ring of protection from shape changers. When I save & load the game, they all appear as hellhounds and then change to weredemons. 09:17 {Demo} and nabru its because for all these advancements in games, nethack is still one of the most complex computer games you can play 09:17 all the different things you can do, outcomes that can happen, just dont exist in modern games 09:18 mobileuser hmm ok 09:18 not a problem, but at least you know now 09:19 <{Demo}> im sorry u wanna play a game where eating ur hat is something u can actually do 09:19 tested mobileuser's thing in vanilla, can't reproduce it 09:21 <{Demo}> im having occasional weird glyph artifacts with uvm engulfing in ndnh and I don't think it is my fault 09:21 <{Demo}> like, ocassionaly the engulfee square will show a weird artifact glyph 09:21 <{Demo}> one time it was a pink m, that was cool 09:30 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:72998 09:31 aosdict I couldnt either 09:32 and why are co-workers calling me about stuff? dont they know i'm busy doing nethack things? 09:36 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4758 points, T:5885, mowed down by a panther 09:44 :/ 09:45 <{Demo}> lo-cuss-it out 09:48 woo found an evil magic lamp! 09:49 is wishing in evilhack pretty straight forward or am I going to end up with a soggy salad if I wish for DSM? 09:51 it's fairly straightforward 09:51 but artifacts might bring their owners, and object properties can't be wished for on magical items 09:51 and you can't wish for object materials the object wouldn't usually be able to have 09:52 ^ only for artifacts and a handful of regular objects 09:53 bouquet - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Wishing_for_artifacts 09:53 just added that yesterday heh 09:53 I'm actually looking forward to that, K2. I think that'll be fun. 09:53 and you can't wish for lifestealer at all bcuz K2 :( 09:54 awww 09:54 can object properties be wished for on dsm? 09:54 no 09:55 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Object_properties 09:55 just regular armor, like walking shoes of telepathy? 09:55 yup 09:55 btw how do you tell if an object has obj properties? 09:55 couple ways 09:55 ID for one 09:56 I don't tend to formally id random things 09:56 or say you find a long sword of fire, if you attack with it and the target takes fire damage, it'd ID'ed that way 09:56 it'd be 09:56 so wear random armour in the valley until vampires no longer drain you 09:56 :P 09:56 or ID them :) 09:56 enlightment can help too 09:56 you didn't get rid of spellbook of ID did you? 09:57 scrolls of magic detection 09:57 I understand this as 'use a wish for one ya dingus' 09:57 bouquet no i did not 09:57 oh, magic detection works 09:57 yes 09:57 and if you're a wizard, you sense that the object is magical 09:59 rng told me to give it a serious try so I am. It's like learning all the nuances of nh all over again. 09:59 \o/ 09:59 new discoveries and experiences are fun 10:00 !rng play in traffic | play evilhack 10:00 bouquet: play evilhack 10:00 dodged a bullet again 10:02 it took me a while to realise the power of blessed scrolls of magic detection 10:03 always read one when arriving at the castle for example 10:04 I don't often find many of those 10:04 and I use one for iding scrolls and potions 10:04 maybe I should start writing some and go to ludios 10:05 yes, bound to be interesting weapons and armour there 10:05 one scroll identifies them all 10:05 does a blessed scroll of magic detection id the armor and leaves it ID'd after it drops? 10:07 all the magical properties of armour and weapons on the level are permanently revealed 10:07 and other magical stuff that happens to be there 10:13 blessed md also id's all magic items in inventory, really useful 10:14 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:15 K2: I forget, do wizards have any use for ?oMagicDetect? 10:16 it's an amazing identification scroll before you've managed to get spellbook of id 10:16 so I'd say so 10:17 aosdict not nearly as much as other roles would 10:17 but its still useful 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cavemain (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1220 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cavemain (Tou Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:1241 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cavemain (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 607 points, T:1427, killed by a coyote 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cavemain (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:36 10:25 couple things i've been working on for the hdf scoreboard - last 1000 games played (non-scummed) and all scummed games 10:26 ^ in addition to top scores and z-scores 10:26 example - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard/evil-last/ 10:26 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard/evil-scummed/ 10:26 now I just need to figure out why duplicate games sometimes pop up 10:27 next step will be a name and shame list of everyone who's scummed 10:27 that's the last link I provided :P 10:27 * amateurhour ctrl+f 10:28 <{Demo}> why am i not winning? 10:28 wow I'm on there 10:28 tfw you're officially scum 10:28 the critera for a scummed game is: under 10 points and you either quit or escaped 10:34 I probs scummed for hungerless casting or something 10:35 K2: last I checked, magic detection only reveals items to be magical, and not what their obj property is? 10:35 <{Demo}> is that uncursed vs blessed? 10:36 yup 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 27 points, T:131, killed by a bear trap 10:36 blessed will actually id the magical item 10:36 ok 10:37 so uncursed scroll is not much use to wiz unless they get something out of the magic mapping of magic items 10:37 correct 10:41 K2 if you want to see what I mean about the weredemon and save/reload, you could copy my game. 10:42 ok 10:42 got it copied, thanks 10:42 cheers 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 270 points, T:1018, killed by a dwarf 10:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:57 wow nice 10:57 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 160 points, T:913, eliminated by a death maggot 10:58 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2137 10:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cavemain (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 174 points, T:447, killed by a large mimic 11:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:00 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law), 81122 points, T:18419, killed by a lieutenant 11:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03 <@Sweet Bodhi> my first time printing hello world 11:04 <@Sweet Bodhi> what a magic moment 11:08 try typing 'import antigravity' at the prompt for a fun easter egg 11:10 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:4257 11:11 <@Sweet Bodhi> haha 11:12 <@Sweet Bodhi> would i be better off with and IDE or just a code editor? if so, which one(s)? 11:13 that's like throwing bloody meat into a piranha tank 11:13 sparking another skirmish of the editor wars 11:13 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:13 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest51229 11:13 -!- Guest51229 has quit [Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:13 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:14 imo if I was starting out as a programmer now I'd just use vscode and a plugin related to the language 11:14 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 48216 points, T:4703, killed by a hill orc 11:14 but also imo vim > all 11:15 <@Sweet Bodhi> what about using vs 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:81970 11:18 oopsie 11:18 if you know how to use the command line to run python, then do that and use a non-IDE editor like notepad++ or sublime 11:19 * NCommander waves 11:19 if not, look into python IDEs (can't help you there much) 11:19 LarienTelrunya, for SLEX, is it 80x24 or 25 that's the recommended UIwidth? 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3027 11:19 some people at work use pycharm, but most just use vscode 11:20 NCommander: omg are you going to play too? ♥ 80x25 11:20 * NCommander seriously needs mental distraction 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 3448 points, T:3031, killed by a soldier ant 11:20 LarienTelrunya, yeah, I'm going to roll up another angel/priest 11:20 I'm sure amateurhour would agree with me that while vim is indeed best editor, it's way too much of a learning curve for someone just starting to program :) 11:20 ah cool, I'll want to watch 11:21 yeah, it'd just get in the way of what you're actually trying to learn 11:21 vscode has a builtin terminal so that might be nice I guess 11:22 LarienTelrunya, I'm debating if I should start my own roguelike thread on rpg.net 11:23 NCommander: heh, if you're going to play slex you could as well use mine; if you're going to talk about all kinds of variants then it would probably belong into its own thread 11:23 Now I need to code Amy's fame in game so I can become a nymph and steal it ;) 11:23 i.e. if it's meant to be a "NCommander plays SLEX", I'd recommend you use my thread ♥ 11:24 I haven't decided, but at least for the moment, I'm just trying to get my terminal to behave 11:25 I need to use a large font size so actually forcing 80x25 is annoying 11:25 are you playing from browser? just make a new browser window that isn't fullscreen I guess :D 11:26 LarienTelrunya, I play on the console ;) 11:27 ... and I started with a magic marker 11:28 * NCommander prepares for splat 11:28 NCommander: come over to the other channel ;) 11:28 <@Sweet Bodhi> i got notepad++ so ill run that ig 11:28 <@Sweet Bodhi> also got vs after mixing up it and vscode :p 11:30 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 11:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 11:32 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:35 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Client Quit] 11:36 YANI: enemy killer bees turn into queen bees by eating royal jelly now, so the player should be able to do the same when polymorphed into a killer bee. 11:36 [hdf-us] [fh] migla (zor) (Val Dwa Fem Law) received advice from The Oracle, on T:8840 11:39 elenmirie_ are you collecting the entire set? 11:40 looks like it 11:40 altar camping is fun 11:40 convincing Odin to exhaust his armoury 11:40 "What do you want, mortal? I already gave you all the artifacts I had!" 11:41 aw, I wanna be the Envoy of Balance! 11:41 c'mon, pleeeeeze 11:41 if you fail to get the amulet the next adventurer he sends is SOL 11:41 YANI: sometimes your deity gifts you dragon eggs when altar sacrificing 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1402 11:44 won't a bunch of players have no use for dragon eggs 11:44 baby dragons take a long time to train up and they're slow 11:45 adds more random crap, nerfs altar camping slightly 11:46 support 11:46 Khaleesi disagrees with you 11:46 infidel! 11:48 here comes Queen Daenerys with her dragons to eat you 11:48 I've never watched GoT and I feel vindicated in that after seeing the reception of the final season 11:49 it wasnt even the final season, it was the final episode 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1198 11:50 <@Sweet Bodhi> YASI:applying royal jelly to an altar makes your god either give you a "normal" gift or get angry with you on the next sac 11:50 most retrospective opinions of the series seemed to be that it started strong and then got worse as each season diverged more from GRRM 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 616 points, T:1319, killed by a Woodland-elf 11:51 it's still worth watching if you've not seen it before 11:51 as a longtime fan of the books I don't think I'll ruin my enjoyment of them by watching the show 11:52 (still waiting for book six...) 11:52 to tide you over, might i suggest 'Green Eggs and Ham' by Dr. Seuss 11:53 <@Sweet Bodhi> i got a pile of the books 11:54 <@Sweet Bodhi> still havent read em 11:54 I do not like GoT in a coat, I do not like GoT on a boat 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4089 11:57 blast 11:58 i guess Kaen doesnt respect scare monster scrolls in this 3.7 11:58 im in trouble now. 12:01 im nowhere near strong enough 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "interesting", on T:4596 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4875 12:15 klintos: that caught me offguard too 12:15 but the boulder fort still works well 12:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:1349 12:19 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 12:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:20 -!- bugsniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 12:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a gold octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3058 12:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:47 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 12:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3648 12:51 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3914 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:3737 13:07 [hdf-us] [fh] migla (zor) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 71103 points, T:12158, killed by a fire ant 13:09 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3936 13:09 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4319 13:16 does xnethack have different altar conversion changes or something? 13:20 chances* 13:20 took like 8 sacrifices to get an altar converted, maybe just chance 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 394 points, T:948, killed by a poisonous corpse 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 180 points, T:384, killed by a water moccasin 13:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 117 points, T:594, killed by a jackal 13:29 amateurhour: haven't touched that (yet) 13:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic harp", on T:46548 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:85799 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:85800 13:37 <@microlance> i got my own minetown :/ with the crazy wizard and dragons 13:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2247 13:41