00:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16839 00:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 102730 points, T:17286, killed by an air elemental 00:16 <@Suzune Takada> convict is difficult role 00:16 <@Suzune Takada> in any variants 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:25627 00:31 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:25845 00:37 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- misha is now known as werekitten 00:43 <@NeroOneTrueKing> @Pacra Can you give me any details you have about dropping those "not timed" potions of water? 1) how did you acquire them; 2) where did you drop them; + anything else 00:43 @NeroOneTrueKing: Message from aosdict at 2019-10-29 14:17 EDT: "YANI: add a variable u.actionspeed, which determines how many movement points a player's action costs (for moderate-to-small-cost actions, <=18 or so)" <-- can you elaborate on this a bit? 00:44 <@NeroOneTrueKing> oh wow that's an old message 00:44 <@NeroOneTrueKing> I haven't been active here for a while I guess 00:46 slacker 00:47 <@NeroOneTrueKing> haha 00:47 :) 00:48 <@NeroOneTrueKing> You can find me on nethack-variants more easily 00:48 Nero, I havent updated dnh since the initial add 00:48 <@NeroOneTrueKing> I like that it's fairly quiet and if I check it every now and then I can read all the backscroll 00:48 <@NeroOneTrueKing> Yay 00:48 <@NeroOneTrueKing> Wait 00:49 so any updates to it over the 24+ hrs arent live 00:49 <@NeroOneTrueKing> nt 00:49 *initial add of 3.19.0 00:50 <@NeroOneTrueKing> It's been minor bugfixes, nothing pressing 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11563 00:50 k 00:50 <@NeroOneTrueKing> and others fixes are still in queue to be added to 3.19.0, too 00:53 <@NeroOneTrueKing> @aosdict Actionspeed elaboration: say we want specific tasks to take non-standard amounts of time to perform (but not many turns, like reading a book or picking a lock). Say, hitting a monster with a new artifact Swiftthistle, a rapier that you can attack twice as quickly with. The current method to do so would be to increment youmonst.movement (which is dangerously abuseable). Instead, the allmain loop will check u.actioncost before 00:53 decrementing youmonst.movement, so it might only cost the player 6 aut instead of the standard 12 aut per action. After youmonst.movement is decremented, u.actioncost is reset to -1 (to show "not set; don't use me"). 00:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:02 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 01:07 !players 01:07 drunkmonkey: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] drunkmonkey [nh370] 01:09 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 01:12 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 4481 points, T:2996, killed by an orc-captain, while praying 01:15 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 01:23 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:13854 01:33 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:35 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 01:36 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 01:37 howdy 01:40 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 01:42 <@microlance> what is a bone-carved staff? is it any good it, it was expensive so i had my cat steal it. 01:42 <@microlance> in evilhack 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:15413 02:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:03 <@riker> microlance it's a spellcasting staff 02:03 <@riker> I think types are randomized but its +50% to success rate for spells of a specific school 02:03 <@riker> theres one for all but enchantment 02:05 <@microlance> omg a nymph with a sleep wand stole all my stuff and then killed me slowly together with a lichen 02:05 <@microlance> thats not right, these nymphs are worse then shopkeepers and leperchauns together. 02:06 sounds lichen evilhack game 02:09 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 1152 points, T:1787, killed by a crystal dwarvish spear 02:09 <@Suzune Takada> whoa 02:09 <@Suzune Takada> ghost in evil can wield weapon? 02:10 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 02:12 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:13 @Suzune Takada no, ghosts cannot wield weapons. looking at your dumplog, something beyond the ghost threw it at you. passed through the ghost, hit you 02:14 nooo you made lifestealer non-wishable :'( 02:14 yeah 02:14 needed to be done 02:15 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 02:15 -!- joes has quit [Client Quit] 02:15 there goes a fairly decent strategy on giant monk then :( 02:16 its much simpler to and better to wish for of drain resistance 02:17 you'd be better served burning a wish on that rather than buring it on a weapon you wont even use 02:17 *burning 02:18 that involves using up an armour slot during the fight though for something you may not have fully enchanted 02:18 -!- bugsniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18 and you only have 3 usable equip slots 02:18 you nullify vlad's ability to drain levels, that's half the battle 02:19 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 02:20 alright i gotta sleep. gnite o/ 02:20 sleep well 02:27 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 02:28 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:55 <@microlance> a +3 helm of brilliance anhur is such a good guy 02:58 nice 02:58 i just died to an energy vortex in soko for the billionth time 03:00 F 03:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:38880 03:01 <@microlance> this wizard pet is crazy 03:01 <@microlance> he just killed the my aligned priest 03:04 <@microlance> now this already nightmarish version of the minetown with a zoo became even worse 03:04 <@microlance> a loose ancient pseudo-dragon 03:09 @e?mastodon 03:10 !who 03:10 bugsniper: [hdf-us] Everdying [evil] rebatela [evil] book [nh370] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] | [hdf-au] drunkmonkey [nh370] 03:13 yeah i just got that bones 03:13 mastodon'd 03:14 double bones level now? 03:41 Mmmm Pegasus is no longer a pet? Remained peaceful when freed, did not become a pet. 03:42 Just a chance of spawning peaceful instead of tame? 03:43 Checking the commits... 03:43 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:46 Oh yeah, recent updates might've changed that 03:46 Might not have also 03:46 * Umbire shrugs 03:53 Second try with a magic harp worked, all is well ;-) 04:04 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 04:09 !who 04:09 bugsniper: [hdf-us] rebatela [evil] | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] Hill [nh370] | [hdf-au] spectre [xnh] 04:10 @microlance what kind of gloves are the falconry gloves? 04:10 <@microlance> gloves of dexterity 04:11 +4, nice 04:11 too bad you're now a rat 04:15 <@microlance> luckily i could pray it away, without angering my chaos god forever 04:18 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:22 didn't fancy trying for veganism? 04:23 <@microlance> but how are you gonna get telepathy as a giant 04:23 just skip it or wear amulet of esp 04:24 <@microlance> skipping it is painful, then you have to spam unihorn even more 04:24 same way you'd handle vegan on a regular monk 04:24 what do you mean? 04:25 by praying to your god on an altar 04:25 <@microlance> with telepathy you can go around blind without noticing to much 04:25 you're going to get the eyes of the overworld anyway 04:26 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:30 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:31 <@microlance> hmm centaurs seems to be pretty good pets, i just bought a figurine just to test one. must get one as a mount on a knight sometime 04:33 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 04:35 mobileuser is pegasus meant to become tame when you free it? 04:35 when I freed it I had to throw an apple at it 04:36 to free it I melted the bars with acid, not sure if there's a way you're meant to do it 04:40 Hi amateurhour 04:41 Ah, apple, that is a cheaper way to tame it. :-) 04:42 wiki says "Can be tamed and ridden" so works as advertised 04:43 and one of the crystal chests helpfully contains acid potions, that is the preferred (only?) way 04:45 I didn't have wand of opening or knock (as usual for me in evilhack) 04:45 crystal chests are just a big middle finger for me most games lol 04:45 I wonder if you can throw an apple through the bars and then magic whistle it out 04:50 Ah, something to try for next time. 04:55 <@microlance> oh if you dont have the cursed balrog figurine in a bag it seems to wake up on the last level before minetown 04:55 <@microlance> almost killed me 05:06 cursed figurines will transform after a while, good idea to put it in a bag. 05:06 <@microlance> okay, so thats how they work 05:06 <@microlance> i have no bags tho 05:07 you can also drop it and pick it up, resets the timer 05:08 bit cumbersome, to be safe you need to do that every 200 turns 05:12 <@microlance> i hate being bagless, my potion of full healing and single holy water just exploded 05:18 Only now I realise that wearing the Eyes acts as a lamp as well. 05:18 it's better than a lamp really 05:19 but frustratingly it interrupts things like digging if there's a monster on the other side of the wall moving 05:19 I am starting to warm to the Eyes. Used to find them useless because you can't really pick-axe your way through gnom while wearing them. 05:19 Yes, that. 05:20 But then, far less mazes in evil. 05:20 it used to give MR by just having them in invent, so I'd imagine most people didn't wear them 05:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:10682 05:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:10683 05:26 I didn't even get a turn after he bit me before i changed 05:26 Wew 05:27 might be because i was slow from the sewage 05:28 I have yet to get a Rat King mines, not looking forward to it. 05:28 he hits hard 05:29 pretty tough for like where one would be normally for mines end 05:30 I suppose you dropped all your armor when you transformed? And still managed to kill him? 05:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11302 05:33 Ah even unlocking a door becomes difficult wearing the eyes :-) 05:34 yeah lol 05:34 just kick it down 05:35 I can't imagine a quick fix for it really, it's just the code handling things sneaking up on you when you're mid action 05:35 lol a monk should just kick down all doors 05:36 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Dwa Fem Law), 860 points, T:2078, inhumed by a quivering blob, while fainted from lack of food 05:36 <@microlance> and be chaotic so u can deal with angry shopkeepers in an effective and fair manner 05:38 good point microlance :') 05:44 Vorpal Blade removes one of Cerberus' heads! You watch in horror as it quickly grows back. You kill Cerberus! 05:44 Growing a head back take a lot out of you, dawg 05:45 System shock :-) 05:45 Yep :B 05:47 "The flames of hell are slowly roasting you alive!" aaargh 05:47 the rat king level does have some nice loot 05:53 hmmm... 05:54 playing as vampire mage: You cast a spell! Some hell-p has arrived! 05:54 Another vampire mage arrives, but it's not tame. 05:57 why is unlocking a door difficult with eyes? 05:59 Often there is a monster on the other side, seeing it stops you unlocking. 05:59 One of the cool things about monk is intrinsic stealth (not for giants) so i try not to kick down doors 05:59 oh I see what you mean 06:00 yeah. it can be annoying. still a cool artifact though 06:00 It's growing on me :-) 06:00 pretty much slotless MR 06:01 bit dangerous to rely on a quest artifact for MR 06:01 yeah at the end 06:01 I'm not having fun unless rodney steals an artifact or the amulet a couple times 06:02 but at least I can now swap MR cloak for robe if I need to cast spells 06:02 that's what I was just going to say 06:02 hehe 06:02 and then by the endgame, if you are high level you can cast w/out the robe 06:03 found 2 staffs so far, that might help too 06:03 yeah those things are great 06:03 I was casting everything in my giant game because I had all the staffs 06:03 and helm of brilliance 06:03 found spellbook of reflection too 06:04 nice. yep I did that too 06:04 because it stacks. Same thing with haste 06:04 so then you don't need to use slots for reflection/speed 06:04 so with the Eyes I now have some more strategies to play with, nice. 06:04 I usually wish for the other eye though which makes it a lot easier to just spam cast those spells 06:05 didn't get early wishes and by then there were too many artifacts 06:06 yeah... something just death dropped trollsbane in sokoban for me. annoying 06:15 Oh fantastic, invoking the Eyes does enlightenment! 06:15 I was desperate for a source of enlightenment. 06:16 "You are vulnerable to fire." yeah there must be something funny going on with wearing an amulet of unchanging 06:18 that's weird 06:22 whoops i just sacficed a human corpse and am lawful 06:22 think thats game over 06:24 god is very angry now but can still be appeased I think 06:24 mobileuser if you remove the amulet then save/reload are you still vulnerable? 06:24 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 06:24 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest96442 06:24 -!- Guest96442 has quit [Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 06:24 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 06:24 amateurhour that would mean I lose all my HP gains as vampire mage 06:24 too painful 06:26 ah 06:26 but it kinda blows my strategy out of the water 06:26 for example, I now have 100% acid resistance 06:27 but if something makes me 50% vulnerable to acid... 06:27 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:29 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:31 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 06:34 Changed alignment before the quest, that's usually a GG 06:48 !PoM 06:48 APic: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 8 days. 06:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:55 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:59 !who 06:59 Tangles: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] elenmirie [evil] spontiff [nh370] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] spectre [xnh] 06:59 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 06:59 !lastgame dnh mizue 06:59 Tangles: No last game for (dnh,mizue). 07:00 !lastgame mizue 07:00 Tangles: No last game for mizue. 07:01 Hmm actually Mizue is one of those random ghost names, I think? As you were. 07:02 hehe I've done that 07:02 <@microlance> hmm the monsters have opened all the doors in sokoban now 07:04 in evilhack? 07:04 <@microlance> yeah 07:04 I've had similar happen where monsters blew up the doors 07:04 you can still only pick one item though, the others disappear 07:07 <@microlance> those things in sokoban when you dont have res and low luck because of mistakes 07:09 i died to an energy vortex in soko earlier this morning 07:10 had a really good game going 07:10 I die that way in vanilla all the time too. Who has shock resistance at that point? 07:11 a side effect of the difficulty going up in Sokoban? 07:12 <@Tone> Yeah they feel relatively common there now 07:18 when I quaff object detection in sokoban for the prizes it shows 2 pieces of armor and a dollar sign? (evilhack) 07:18 i want the tool? 07:19 i guess those things are on top of the prizes? 07:19 yes, probably 07:19 ugh 07:20 you have to guess when that happens :/ 07:20 I really want marker or BoH 07:20 gotcha.. oh well 07:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:13003 07:21 not a bad gift except gloves are the one thing i've enchanted to +5 already and I REALLY WANTED THE MARKER OR THE BOH 07:21 god, that's annoying. monsters shouldn't spawn there 07:22 do they? I thought they can only open the doors 07:23 nobody opened any doors. there was a mordor orc just chilling in the closet on top of the prize behind the closed door and I couldn't detect the prize 07:23 oh well. At the least the high priest in the sanctum has a marker... 07:27 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 298 points, T:754, killed by a system shock 07:27 Question: if I take off an amulet of unchanging while polymorphed, will I then have 500 turns before I revert? Or will I change back immediately? 07:27 Can't find it in the wiki. 07:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:337 07:36 I think it depends what turn you're on 07:37 as in I think it checks the amulet when it would have polymorphed you back and adds some number of turns 07:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:435 07:37 so you could have anything from 1 to [however many turns the amulet adds] turns 07:38 I immediately put the amulet on after I polymorphed. 07:38 it doesn't pause the timer is what I'm saying 07:38 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Polymorph#Changing_back 07:38 In that case, I would revert immediately 07:38 no, it adds turns whenever the timeout reaches 0 07:39 you just don't have a good way of knowing how many turns till next polymorph 07:39 till next polymorph back* 07:39 Ah it's in the wiki after all, thx! 07:40 Shame, if the timer restarted after taking off the amulet I could have tried getting rid of the vulnerable to fire intrinsic 07:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 516 points, T:755, killed by a falling rock 07:42 <@microlance> the shopkeepers are sure brave people having wand of deaths laying around on the floor 08:03 [hdf-us] [fh] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the monk of eraserhead97, the former Novice, on T:5039 08:07 i didn't realize the valkyrie quest artifact change... very cool! 08:12 I just put a GDSM in a BoH and feel relieved the bag didn't blow up because of cancellation. You never know with evilhack... 08:12 quite 08:12 Death has 771 hit points 08:13 wow 08:14 yeah. I exploded my bag with magicbane when I first started playing. I'm kinda surprised the gdsm doesn't do it! 08:15 you know what will happen when K2 reads this ;-) 08:15 I like how it says of 08:15 Also dear fucking god you've summoned the monkey's paw 08:15 Y o u f o o l . 08:16 (slightly more serious but I think being passively activated has something to do with it) 08:16 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 08:16 what's the best way to keep mobs from tampering with the STASH (in FIQ)? 08:19 grand tour 08:19 darn, good luck1 08:20 Better than Super 08:24 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27 oof you don't get all the hit points back anymore 08:27 that sucks 08:27 yeah, more evilness 08:32 RIP 08:32 pfft 08:32 oh noooo.... 08:32 ;_; 08:33 why didn't the prayer work? 08:33 prayer timeout probably 08:33 I prayed for water on the way up 08:33 I thought it would be enough, but no 08:33 oh well. 08:34 :( 08:34 does sickness resistance work against famine? 08:35 no, only against pestilence 08:36 sorry I meant pestilence 08:36 brain fart 08:36 ah 08:36 in that case, yes 08:36 waiting for bacon butties and missed breakfast so brian not optimal 08:36 your name is brian? 08:37 typo of brain 08:37 I know :-) 08:37 :^) 08:40 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 08:49 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:53 morning 08:53 sleep well? 08:53 no 08:53 :( 08:53 ozzy kept climbing up into bed with me and using me as a sleeping pad 08:54 he's 110 lbs 08:54 so no :) 08:54 he's such a baby 08:54 elenmirie_ :( 08:56 elenmirie_: D: !!!! 08:56 how the hell did death of 771 hp 08:57 did he keep getting zapped with a wand of death? 08:57 Pesty. 08:57 Oh lol 08:57 *death have 08:57 crossfire? can he zap himself? 08:57 Thought you meant how Elen died 08:57 yeah sorry 08:57 mobileuser no he wont zap himself, but crossfire for sure 08:58 death picks up a wand of death. death zaps himself with a wand of death. 08:58 yeah definitely crossfire 08:59 i just witnessed it happen in this wizmode game 08:59 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 08:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 08:59 Andy the Knight is spamming me with death rays and death is inbetween he and I 08:59 Death now has 496 hp 08:59 (started with 148) 08:59 i was watching and i think i remember her stethoscoping death pretty early on. Not a lot of turns for a bunch of zaps 09:00 lots of fun with these NPCs 09:00 oh it goes up that much 09:00 wow 09:00 yeah 09:01 also [backscroll] I considered having gray dragon scale mail also have a small chance of blowing up a BoH if put in, but didnt because its cancellation bit is passive, whereas magicbane actively does it 09:01 so that wont Be A Thing™ 09:01 Umbire guessed as much :-) 09:02 Am smert :B 09:08 I may have found two evilhack bugs to do with self-poly K2, maybe you saw in the backscroll 09:08 vuln and unchanging? 09:09 that's one yes 09:10 the other is, when I summon a hell-ping vampire mage, it's hostile. 09:10 hmm 09:10 summon? 09:11 I mean the vampire mage monster spell 09:11 You cast a spell! Some hell-p has arrived! 09:11 ah a demon right? 09:12 no, I am a vampire mage at the moment 09:12 the other spell that creates a bunch of monsters works fine, new pets every time 09:13 no i mean when you summon 09:13 it creates a demon? 09:13 oh wait 09:13 another VM 09:13 that :-) 09:14 hmm 09:14 but the bigger problem is that the vulnerable to fire intrinsic is not timing out 09:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:15 well with unchanging on that would be normal? I thought unchanging meant any and all effects also dont timeout 09:15 (has never messed with unchanging code) 09:15 I yes, but when I asked you earlier you said it would time out ;-) 09:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16 i dont think it registered that you were wearing unchanging when I said that 09:16 ah ok 09:17 so that is one strategy down the toilet then :-) 09:19 well it should only be for polyform according to wiki 09:19 are vampires just straight up weak to fire? 09:20 all undead are 09:20 ! 09:20 thats it 09:20 :) 09:20 not if you are immune and the poly 09:20 *then 09:20 ? 09:20 no it has nothing to with unchanging 09:20 one sec i'll explain 09:20 I think I understand 09:21 You are vulnerable to fire from current creature form. 09:21 "You are vulnerable to fire." standard for vampire? 09:21 ^ poly'd into VM 09:21 yes 09:21 ah 09:22 MH_UNDEAD usually have the M4_VULNERABLE_FIRE flag 09:22 at least that means that other vulnerabilities caused by spells will wear of. I hope. 09:22 yeah they should 09:23 Right. So my VM will just have to learn to like pain caused by walking in hell. :b 09:23 be glad i fixed this last week, otherwise you'd be vulnerable to fire/cold/shock/acid and your fire res would be -50% 09:23 wow 09:23 yeah that was a LONG standing bug that had been present for over a year 09:24 never really noticed it til a couple weeks ago 09:24 the vulnerability code had been brought over from sporkhack - bug existed there too (fixed it there also) 09:24 nice 09:25 changing && to & - boop fixed 09:25 Ah I remember those demons 09:25 heh 09:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38535 09:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) killed Daemon, on T:38633 09:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:38789 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:444 09:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:38825 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2760 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2827 09:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:39606 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:786 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:786 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:39762 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:924 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:944 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:880 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1057 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 4285294 points, T:39781, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1587079650.dnh.txt 10:08 congrats malor! 10:08 <@malor> thanks 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 875 points, T:832, killed by a gnome lady 10:08 @malor was that 3.19.0 or still 3.18.0 10:08 (congrats) 10:09 <@malor> I didn't know 3.19 was even out 🙂 10:09 so probably 3.18.0 :) 10:09 <@malor> oh, I see most of the recent games show 3.19 That could be harder for me since there are so many changes that seem like they make it harder 🙂 10:10 <{Demo}> yeah no insight in enlightenment so 3.18, congrats 10:11 @ChrisANG, the dnethack dumplog should show game version info and start/end times like a lot of other dumplogs do 10:11 <@ChrisANG> I'll add that to the tournament version project. 10:11 \o/ 10:11 !lastgame nabru 10:11 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1588073561.nh.html 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1746 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3689 points, T:2380, killed by a vampire 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2161 10:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu), 241 points, T:592, killed by a goblin 10:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9898 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1027 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1212 10:47 <@Sweet Bodhi> what race is a swn? dnh 10:48 <@Suzune Takada> yuki-onna 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2446 10:49 <@Suzune Takada> just the playable nymph in dnh 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 871 points, T:2148, killed by a giant bat 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "Blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:3064 10:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5464 points, T:5858, killed by a dwarf 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1262 points, T:3684, killed by a snake 11:00 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:2580 11:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 3791 points, T:2459, killed by a gnome lady 11:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:10606 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 929 points, T:2658, killed by a wand 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 166 points, T:719, killed by a water demon 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 8 points, T:28, killed by a water moccasin 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 99 points, T:333, killed by a sewer rat 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:521 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 408 points, T:873, killed by a wererat 11:20 [hdf-us] [fh] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 61231 points, T:8363, killed by a tiger 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:852 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1092 11:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1358 points, T:639, killed by a little dog 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:3659 11:32 K2: I stethoscoped Death when I first met him. There someone behind him did zap a wand of death, but I don't think it was more than once 11:32 yep, 771 HP 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1624 points, T:3321, killed by a giant bat 11:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed greased helping hand", on T:30379 11:37 for some reason, that wish makes me laugh 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:357 11:37 ahaha 11:41 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1065 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 398 points, T:1218, killed by an invisible bugbear 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6058 points, T:3943, killed by a black unicorn, while praying 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 151 points, T:522, killed by a sewer rat 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 151 points, T:94, killed by a gecko 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 28 points, T:189, killed by a ghoul, while paralyzed by a monster 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:323 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:622 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:986 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:3921 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed spontiff's ghost, the former Rhizotomist, on T:1339 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1469 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1497 12:08 hothraxxa: I fixed death explosioins quite a while back. Please try to at least give accurate misgivings about it 12:09 <{Demo}> hey fiq, fh is broken. I drank a potion of wonder and it gave me slowness, not phasing, can I get a refund? 12:09 Rodney still cast double trouble as the very first thing, but the spell now has a delay before it takes effect 12:10 elenmirie_ if death had over 700 hp he was definitely zapped more than once 12:10 <{Demo}> I love potions of wonder, they are so much gambling fun and I wish there was a sane way for more variants to have that 12:10 they were pretty much designed to be that way 12:10 well, I just got there, to astral, I mean 12:10 so there wasnt a lot of time 12:10 no rider will spawn with more than 200 hp, usually less 12:10 <{Demo}> fiqhack should make Astral vision an intrinsic 12:10 how much does he gain if he gets zapped? 12:10 each time 12:10 it was the best method I could come up with to sneak in a blatantly broken mechanic that is balanced by its unrealibility 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2177 12:10 its variable 12:10 lemme look at the code 12:11 {Demo}: pretty sure it already is 12:11 hmm just checked 12:11 apparently xray is not on the list of allowed intriniscs from wonder :P 12:11 <{Demo}> if it is, can I get it from wonder pots? 12:11 <{Demo}> damn 12:12 it's allowed_wonder[] near top of potion.c 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3012 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3061 12:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:24 fiq: did you? how? 12:24 i did say my epxperience was from a long time back now 12:35 elenmirie_ look at this - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/zap.c#L3945 12:35 when Death gets zapped by a wand of death, it plusses up his hitpoints by half of his max 12:35 so if he gets zapped even a small number of times, the gains are huge 12:35 YUGE 12:36 and in evilhack the riders do start out with more hit points than in vanilla, typically in the 150-200 range 12:36 https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=200*1.5^x+%3D+771 12:37 yes, that's possible 12:37 he might have got hit a couple of times, or three 12:37 things were pretty hectic in there 12:38 <{Demo}> how many zaps does it take to overflow it? wouldn't like 50 be enough? 12:39 one of my sporkhack astral splats, my helm of brilliance was a tinfoil hat, so esp wasnt working. an archon was nearby gaze stunning me so I put on a towel. all i could see were the warning numbers. saw a 5 coming my way so zapped wand of death at it. didnt go away, zapped a couple more times. it was Death. then i was death also 12:39 i buffed him up so much, boop dead 12:39 shit 12:40 fyi the code I linked to is vanilla code 12:40 i havent edited that 12:40 <{Demo}> yeah, playing around in dnh wiz mode now 12:40 what data type is max hp stored in? 12:41 <{Demo}> int, it caps at 999 though 12:41 hothraxxa: players are immune to their own wand explosions 12:41 <{Demo}> i've been foiled :( 12:41 assuming it wasn't caused by a unskilled zap of a cursed wand 12:41 what's the magic coookie? 12:41 brb 12:41 no giving death negative hp :( 12:42 src/zap.c:#define MAGIC_COOKIE 1000 12:42 magic cookie is normally 200 but i upped it to 1000 12:42 right, so that's the cap if I'm reading that right 12:42 <{Demo}> what is the magic cookie for? 12:42 if you eat it your pet teleports to you 12:43 lol 12:43 things like if a weapon hit does massive amount of damage to instakill the target 12:43 it's putting a cap on the number of hitpoints that death can have 12:43 ^ correct me if i'm wrong there 12:43 elenmirie_ and yeah that too in that instance 12:43 yeah, I was looking at that one bit that you flagged 12:44 <{Demo}> oh, its a turbo fucking kludge cause for some reason the zap code STILL hasn't been rewritten in vanilla 12:44 'turbo fucking kludge' - that's gonna be in my work email sig 12:44 heh 12:44 STILL! STILL! 12:44 need more alcohol. 12:44 <{Demo}> lol 12:44 paxed is wise 12:45 need more alcohol is the correct response 12:47 i'm on a diet, i havent had a drink in over 2 weeks 12:47 FML 12:47 <{Demo}> that's probably good though cause like its hard to not put on lbs right now when u can't like do anything 12:47 no doubt 12:47 also. also. it would help getting stuff into vanilla if there were pull requests 12:47 I haven't drank alcohol for 18 months or so now 12:48 lost a lot of weight from that 12:48 <{Demo}> i havent drank alcohol for like 13 hours or so now 12:48 fu 12:49 speaking of. gonna get a drink of sima --> 12:49 (mead, basically) 12:49 oh are you finnish? 12:50 sima is quite nice 12:50 yes 12:50 the magic cookie's purpose is to denote a disintegration 12:50 the code is a bit unorthodox 12:50 <{Demo}> ah yes fiq, but it is also used to cap death's maximum HP gain from death rays! 12:51 <{Demo}> because it's nethack so i guess just do that and it would be pretty funny? 12:51 well, the constant was just sitting there... 12:52 waste not, want not 12:53 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 12:55 if you set it to something really low, could magic missile etc disintegrate things? 12:55 with exact rolls 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:1058 12:57 <{Demo}> wait i almost wonder if magic missile can disint things in ndnh 12:57 <{Demo}> honestly if it can, that is totally valid and not a bug at all 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:5492 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 7366 points, T:6277, killed by a jaguar, while praying 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3732 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Digger, on T:3829 13:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 579 points, T:1008, killed by a giant bat 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 751 points, T:2374, killed by a dingo 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 2415 points, T:4313, killed by a rothe 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:626 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 197 points, T:679, killed by a gnome lord 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:256 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:703 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 117 points, T:951, killed by a jackal 13:19 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:292 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 223 points, T:374, killed by a hobbit 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:373 13:21 -!- NAOrsa has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 481572 points, T:33918, killed by a xorn 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 98 points, T:674, killed by a large mimic 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:280 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3131 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4174 points, T:3282, killed by a rothe 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:630 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:750 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 491 points, T:1070, killed by a rothe 13:42 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 13:42 oink 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 485 points, T:1855, killed by a wand 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:494 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:983 13:47 alright. i'm finally motiviating myself to do a significant update on the wiki for evilhack. yay 13:47 * K2 starts typing 13:47 * K2 gets distracted by something shiny 13:47 * K2 goes back to typing 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 680 points, T:1258, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 14:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 101 points, T:432, killed by a black pudding 14:09 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: reboot for maintenance] 14:14 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 14:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7879 14:19 Even waiting on the spot doing nothing roasts you alive without 100% fire res in evilhack hell. Harsh. :-) 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:875 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:80 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1110 14:35 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 14:36 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1502 points, T:2771, sent to the grave by a large cat 14:39 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1954 14:43 -!- dopplergange has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 14:44 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 14:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:11153 14:44 I got a promotional email from a place I once bought a soup pot from: Transform your home into a bar this summer! 14:44 what do they mean, transform? 14:46 You throw a potion of polymorph at your home. It suddenly turns into a bar! 14:46 my office looks like a cellar atm 14:46 the pubs are shut, what is one supposed to do? 14:47 hang on, I've got to change the barrel! 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:2092 14:48 elenmirie_: you're on lockdown, who is drinking all the beer? 14:48 lol, who do you think? 14:48 yeah, yeah, i know 14:48 :) 14:51 the other half is helping too - he's on what's euphemistically referred to as furlough 14:52 ah 14:52 since we can't go out, we have an evening ritual of beer and cards 15:02 <@ElectricPizza> 🙃 15:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:11 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6037 15:22 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:23 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 15:23 -!- merlek has quit [Client Quit] 15:24 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 15:24 -!- merlek has quit [Client Quit] 15:26 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- merlek has quit [Client Quit] 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 325 points, T:635, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:32 I've got a microlance ghostie 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:844 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 531 points, T:1031, killed by a giant spider 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:16208 15:43 -!- NAOrsa has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:16932 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:324 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:576 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Hob Fem Neu), 1456 points, T:2374, killed by a gnomish wizard, while sleeping off a magical draught 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 63756 points, T:20321, petrified by a cockatrice 16:02 how do i see that dumplog? 16:02 wtf 16:03 !lastgame 16:03 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1588058038.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1588098152.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spectre/xnethack/dumplog/1588070726.xnh.html 16:04 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:04 ahh, classic case of "character is too stupid to not use touching attacks on petrifying monsters" 16:05 just like being polyd into a goddamn mind flayer in vanilla 16:05 oh weak... I had taken boots off to make spellcasting easier 16:05 the last thing i did was make sure i was wearing gloves too 16:08 that's dumb. It's not like I #kicked the thing 16:09 wait the autokick as a monk touches cockatrices? 16:10 :| 16:12 'Players will need to be mindful of wearing boots of some sort if they use martials arts at master/grand master skill, as kicking a footrice/basilisk barefoot equals instant petrification.' 16:12 the thing was fleeing, and i "spun around and back kick(ed)" it... barefoot 16:12 freshly added to the wiki page K2? 16:12 no, that's the commit notes 16:12 lol 16:12 ah, I must have forgotten that 16:13 i'll add it to the wiki just cuz 16:13 i know it's fair... just wasn't thinking of it. I checked gloves because i've died that way while polypiling like that many times even in vanilla (take off gauntlets of power/cast poly/forget) 16:13 because you're nice when describing your evil 16:13 rebatela understandable, footwear isnt something one normally checks when dealing with footrice 16:14 now you know :) 16:14 hmm.... idea 16:14 monks become stone res at exp lvl 16:14 ...remove autokicking footrice like you did for autotentacling them as an ithilid? :^) 16:15 amateurhour no and here's why: as an illithid there's nothing you can wear over your tentacles. you can put armor on your feet easyily 16:15 easily even 16:16 I can also half the self control to not kick them 16:16 have* 16:16 YANI: little booties for illithid tentacles 16:16 actually it's easier to not kick something than to kick something, try it irl 16:16 for science 16:16 hmm no. i like kicking things 16:17 you hear the beckoning of science 16:17 I've got some fabric leftover from the face masks, I could make little booties, unless you'd prefer them knitted? 16:17 lol 16:17 giants should be able to dual wield capes by wrapping one around each arm 16:17 i'm not changing my stance on kicking and footrice. remember to wear boots just like you remember to wear gloves 16:17 where's the realism 16:18 Realism in kicking a chicken that can turn you into stone? 16:18 YANI: giants can kill and skin woolly mammoths to make a giant-sized cloak 16:18 Happens all the time on my block. 16:19 it was just a bad time to get my extra turn at grand master or whatever and decide to spin around and do a back kick as the thing runs away 16:19 way back when you could be stoned for kicking someone's farm animals I'm sure 16:19 I'm in Texas, that's still true. 16:19 some parts 16:20 west texas 16:20 panhandle 16:20 Don' be messin' wid da chickens 16:20 bok bok! 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:761 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 269 points, T:1142, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:26 ok there's a disclaimer on the wiki 16:26 :) 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:517 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:986 16:30 Hi K2! Did you mean to have a player without 100% fire res suffer fire damage in gnom while waiting on the spot, not performing an action? 16:31 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:31 lol a violation of the "increasing skills should never result in the player being worse off" rule! :P 16:31 (then again, I'm probably the only dev who even uses that rule) 16:31 I believe that was a bug that it didn't hurt you mobileuser 16:31 that was helpfully 'fixed' 16:31 so I think it is indeed intentional 16:32 Yes, the irony is of the scale here ;-) 16:32 "This commit moves these functions to their proper place, so 16:32 the effect is felt per turn, regardless of what actions are taken." 16:32 But is waiting really an action? 16:33 Not complaining, just curious. 16:33 I mean it makes sense, you're still stood in intense heat 16:34 On the other hand, you're standing still. 16:34 "woah, that guy is pretending to be a statue, better avoid that weirdo" - the fires of hell 16:34 lol 16:36 It's fine whatever the rules are, but it does mean that the "vampire poly-self" strategy is almost impossible in evilhack. 16:36 that's a shame :( 16:36 variant development is all about nerfing or eliminating successful strategies 16:37 I have a feeling it was unintentional in this case :-) 16:37 oh hi hothraxxa! do you want to playtest the new, heavily nerfed slex 2.66? ;) 16:37 it's about detecting Unsanctioned Fun and patching it out :^) 16:38 heh, I'm such a "stop having badwrongfun" variant dev too, ask porkman :D 16:38 hi amy. i'm self-isolating atm, i'm not allowed to go into strange dungeons 16:38 aww, yeah slex has corona so better don't enter for now 16:39 OK, looks like this demon summonstorm is not respecting extinction 16:40 some of these guys have generated over 200 times 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 235 points, T:732, killed by a black pudding 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 934 points, T:2336, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 16:46 hothraxxa: I disagree 16:46 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:47 nerfing or eliminating successful strategies is not the end, it's one of the possible means to get a more stringent game 16:48 but there are other ways to get a more varied game experience 16:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:17467 16:49 <{Demo}> I agree 17:00 I agree too, though it's still a little sad if some big brained play gets patched out 17:02 mobileuser being a vampire mage in gehennom is still a viable tactic. you regen hit points as a VM and if you have full fire res, your effective fire res is 50%. completely managable 17:02 Yeh, I tried, I disagree 17:03 I lose HP faster than I regenerate them 17:04 If waiting on the spot didn't do fire damage it would work. 17:07 * K2 is thinking 17:11 Meanwhile Pegasus turned to stone against a Beholder :b 17:12 unstone it :) 17:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:31666 17:12 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:13 Yeah, learn stone-to-flesh :-) 17:14 relearn rather, it is in my list 17:16 dNetHack updated (all servers) 17:16 ^ fixes of the bugs 17:16 {Demo} you probably want to save/reload. not critical 17:20 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:22 lol damn 17:23 couldn't handle the guilt :( 17:32 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Bin Orc Mal Non) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 Soulmirror", on T:35889 17:35 -!- pots163 has joined #hardfought 17:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:32721 17:46 -!- pots163 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 869 points, T:1300, killed by a gnome 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7831 18:23 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:55 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Wer Mal Neu), 400 points, T:1832, dispatched by a kobold lord, while sleeping 18:59 -!- CarlyLauren has joined #hardfought 18:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 7343 points, T:3392, killed by a hill orc 19:01 -!- CarlyLauren has quit [Client Quit] 19:02 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 19:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:16 [hdf-us] [4k] kroug (zor) (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1312 19:18 -!- werekitten is now known as misha 19:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36677 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Hob Fem Neu), 592 points, T:1355, killed by a manes 19:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:26565 19:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 243750 points, T:27286, killed by Ms. Syktywkar, the shopkeeper 19:41 [hdf-us] [4k] kroug (zor) (Bar Orc Mal Cha) received advice from The Oracle, on T:3076 19:44 [hdf-us] [4k] kroug (zor) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 16227 points, T:3393, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 19:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:46 -!- murphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 19:47 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 19:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:1591 19:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed silver dragon scale shield", on T:37183 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 252 points, T:584, killed by an iron ball collision 20:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "communion glyph", on T:37195 20:02 <@riker> that worked, right demo? 20:02 -!- bobbyd has joined #hardfought 20:03 -!- bobbyd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03 -!- bobbyd has joined #hardfought 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:268 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:345 20:06 <{Demo}> yeah worked great 20:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6156 points, T:3781, killed by a fire ant 20:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:277 20:25 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 92 points, T:351, killed by a black pudding 20:29 <@Pacra> @microlance priest looks difficult in eh 20:30 <@microlance> im playing stupid, 20:31 <@microlance> but its easy to get killed in a round the first levels if you meet purple spiders or something with a good weapon 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:818 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:905 20:34 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 3680 points, T:3270, died of starvation 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 594 points, T:1775, killed by a bolt of cold 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:782 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh4] Kronk (hackedhead) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 38216 points, T:5484, killed by a raven 20:46 -!- bobbyd has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:46 -!- bobbyd has joined #hardfought 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1655 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 657 points, T:2004, killed by a gnome lord 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:257 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 218 points, T:613, killed by a crossbow bolt 20:52 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:53 [hdf-us] [4k] wianga (zor) (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 5052 points, T:813, killed by a quantum mechanic 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:488 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:772 20:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 410 points, T:1340, killed by an iguana 21:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Bin Orc Mal Non) became the Emissary of Elements, on T:39173 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:999 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1076 points, T:1155, killed by a giant spider 21:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2442 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1678 21:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Daemon, on T:39612 21:19 Does anyone know where http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva/nethack/spoilerlist.html moved to? 21:19 <@microlance> a random quaff paying off and not killing me instantly 😄 21:19 you lucky... 21:19 bobbyd i have no idea 21:20 @K2 The Wiki covers the same ground very well. I just used to use that link. 21:20 ah 21:20 i dont think i have ever visited that link before 21:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Glasya, on T:39840 21:23 k2 here it is. I thought it was on NAO https://alt.org/nethack/mirror/www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/%257Eeva/nethack/spoilerlist.html 21:24 nice 21:24 oh this is old 21:24 <@riker> what do giant wiz start with? 21:24 <@riker> since no COMR 21:24 boots i think 21:25 and an amulet of MR 21:32 <@microlance> hmm, i thought about that lvl 2 wish and i think a +2 stone quarterstaff of venom would have been the superior choice for a giant wizard. 21:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:40235 21:33 <@microlance> or silver 21:34 speed is god for giants as they are slightly slower than other races 21:34 *good 21:34 and that extra AC wont hurt 21:34 <@riker> would gauntlets of protection have been better? 21:35 maybe? pros/cons 21:35 @microlance might want dragonbane instead 21:35 <@riker> that would definitely not backfire as a fountain wish immediately 21:35 <@microlance> yeah, but isnt it 3/4 chance of a guardian 21:35 <@microlance> which will kill me 21:36 if no other artifacts exist its about a 50/50 chance 21:36 after that its virtually guaranteed 21:36 almost rather 21:38 <@microlance> but thats a 50% chance of getting killed in 2 rounds by wands, speed boots or a stone quarterstaff of something. should mean getting safely to a lvl where artiwishing becomes safe 21:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:40374 21:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40399 21:40 <@microlance> but if one is lucky enough to have a scroll of genocide i suppose one could genocide the class of the guardian which spawned 21:41 <{Demo}> oh, thanks rodney? 21:41 you cant genocide humans 21:41 ^ vanilla rule 21:41 <@riker> is a stone quarterstaff better damage? 21:41 yeah 21:42 stone is great for bashing weapons, gets a lil boost 21:42 +2 dmg 21:42 <@riker> ah neat 21:42 and inherently fooproof 21:43 only downside is, its heavy 21:43 but for a giant, no big deal 21:45 lol omg... 21:45 i just had a YANI... borderline EPI 21:45 just tested it out and it is glorious 21:46 <@riker> what is it? 21:46 1) Juiblex has a passive acid attack like a spotted/oche jelly 21:46 makes sense since he's a big pile of goo 21:47 2) upon death he explodes, showering everything near it in acid 21:47 love it 21:52 <@riker> lol 21:52 <@riker> passive AT_BOOM AD_ACID? 21:52 yeah 21:52 You are caught in the Juiblex's explosion! You are splashed by Juiblex's acid! 21:52 I need to fix the 'the' bit 21:52 and tweak the damage output 21:53 dont want it to be too crazy, not like you can really fight a demon lord at range 21:53 <@Pacra> that's great flavor 21:53 thanks 21:54 oh from earlier conversation today - I addressed the MAGIC_COOKIE thing with Death 21:56 <{Demo}> addressed? 21:56 <{Demo}> oh neat 21:56 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/42471dfca45d52972da824f1c4bb6a00e2eddf9a 22:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:41600 22:02 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:04 <{Demo}> time to NOT save the universe for once 22:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:41693 22:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Bin Orc Mal Non) killed Medusa, on T:41139 22:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:41755 22:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the Lugribossk of Ilsensine, on T:41773 22:08 <{Demo}> yeah guess what, ilesensine, thought i was gonna blast ye? nah nah keep ur altar 22:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) destroyed Death, on T:41799 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51665 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51666 22:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:41820 22:11 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 22:11 !players 22:11 drunkmonkey: [hdf-us] telegarn [evil] JimH [nh370] Cropper [nh370] Demo2 [dnh] Pacra [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] | [hdf-au] drunkmonkey [nh370] 22:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed trephination kit named first compat-3.19.0 asc", on T:41825 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:3570 22:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed spoon named ilsensine can have the world, I have soup and i will eat it", on T:41837 22:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ana And Fem Neu), 3266996 points, T:41838, ascended, but the future refused to change https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo2/dnethack/dumplog/1587917535.dnh.txt 22:14 <{Demo}> uhhh 22:14 <{Demo}> that map is totally wrong? wtf? 22:15 <@malor> Why didn’t you save the future? 22:16 <{Demo}> cause I've never not 22:16 <{Demo}> dumplog is broken though :S 22:16 <{Demo}> https://i.imgur.com/41w3kPh.png should have looked more like this (pulled this from ttyrec) 22:26 congrats {Demo} 22:26 which version was that? 22:26 <{Demo}> the wish wasn't a lie 22:26 <{Demo}> it is compat-3.19.0 22:28 ok 22:28 nice 22:28 is that first public 3.19.0 asc? 22:28 <{Demo}> i guess so 22:28 <{Demo}> it only crashed like 5 times 22:28 it is 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:508 22:31 <{Demo}> the peak difficulty was probably the neutral quest fight against the hmanny pharoah and the stupid blesseds 22:32 <@riker> don't have 40 insight 22:32 <@riker> it's not that hard without :p 22:32 <{Demo}> i can't take the annulus there and not have 40 insight 22:32 <{Demo}> and i wanted to see those guys so I could show them what I was made of 22:36 So I start in a room full of corpses. Feast! 22:36 <@Pacra> yum 22:36 <@Pacra> @{Demo} this is my first binder game 22:36 <@Pacra> the post quest pen seems 22:36 <@Pacra> extremely strong 22:37 <{Demo}> it is nice, yeah 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 309 points, T:1069, killed by a giant bat 22:39 GG Demo 22:39 <@Sweet Bodhi> just wait until you get quadwield 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:362 22:44 EPI: a weapon that welds itself to all four of your hands 22:44 heh 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:842 22:45 <@Pacra> !lastgame elenmirie 22:45 @Pacra: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for xnh:elenmirie) | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/evilhack/dumplog/1588088149.evil.html 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8631 points, T:5918, killed by a winter wolf 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1895 22:54 !who 22:54 K2: [hdf-us] bouquet [evil] Karnac [nh370] sickopsycho [nh370] Pacra [dnh] karibou [dnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:55 how is a tin opener not a suitable weapon for forcing chests? 22:55 I protest! 22:57 They aren't made of tin. 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1222 points, T:1124, killed by a rothe, while praying 22:58 I'm taking "materials patch" literally, I guess. the opener is made of tin. 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 243 points, T:430, killed by a gas spore's explosion 23:03 Ah 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:569 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Hob Fem Neu) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2561 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Hob Fem Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2614 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) stole 178 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Akalapi's general store, on T:643 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 296 points, T:682, killed by a Keystone Kop 23:12 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 173 points, T:186, killed by a bat 23:13 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Hob Fem Neu), 1800 points, T:2986, killed by an ettin mummy 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a Mordor orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:4343 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4371 23:20 -!- bobbyd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:21 -!- bobbyd has joined #hardfought 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:435 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:560 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 396 points, T:647, killed by a dwarf 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4814 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:547 23:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 97 points, T:588, killed by a newt 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1891 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1009 points, T:1894, killed by a dwarf 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:635 23:51 -!- bobbyd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6943 23:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1652 points, T:2183, killed by an orcish arrow