00:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:35147 00:04 -!- krm26 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) destroyed rebatela the human zombie, and former Initiate, on T:3437 00:26 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) destroyed rebatela the human zombie, and former Initiate, on T:3749 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:5550 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a gray spellbook given to her by Thoth, on T:5316 00:43 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:33151 00:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 7311 points, T:6099, zombified by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 01:09 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a platinum dagger on an altar, on T:3005 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3580 01:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided class R, on T:35494 01:19 -!- NicoleMejia has joined #hardfought 01:21 -!- NicoleMejia has quit [Client Quit] 01:24 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3572 01:43 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 01:51 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 5783 points, T:6187, killed by a red dragon 01:56 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2976 points, T:4574, killed by an owlbear 02:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed magic lamp", on T:39174 02:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:40, on T:39196 02:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:39255 02:55 -!- AnnaNystrom has joined #hardfought 02:56 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:58 -!- AnnaNystrom has quit [Client Quit] 02:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1848 02:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:39569 03:01 <@ScienceBall> !tell AntiGulp I was looking at the dumplog of bouquet's SpliceHack ascension (from earlier today), and I noticed that it said "Plane of Water: An untended shop". That doesn't sound right. https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/splicehack/dumplog/1587341302.splice.html 03:01 Will do, @ScienceBall! 03:04 👀 03:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:41266 03:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:41363 03:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on the Plane of Air (for the 5th time), on T:41416 03:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of gold detection", on T:41421 03:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:48 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:53 aosdict: I would stop complaining about unnethack unskilled penalties if it weren't such a ******** "well we need to nerf cockatrices so uhh lets just nerf all restricted weapons across the boat" implementation. 03:54 and who cares if you occasionally miss with the corpse anyway, you just swing again and probably hit Demogorgon then, meaning the c corpse is still very OP anyway. so that nerf doesn't even really address the core problem! 03:55 at the same time, the poor sap that wants to roleplay a tin-opener-wielding character will automiss 25% of the time with an already underpowered "weapon" for... for actually no real reason at all! just because of some misguided nerf to something completely unrelated! 03:56 but it's only a matter of time until that "feature" sneaks its way into "vanilla" 3.7 too, and then I can really complain. :P 03:57 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 03:58 LarienTelrunya: you can now brag that something that was first in SLEX made it into 3.7 :-} 03:58 bhaak: huh? did I miss some news? let me guess, skill cap being shown in enhance menu? 03:59 no, do you wanna guess again? 04:00 uhh... can't really think of anything else that they could have stolen from slex 04:00 in fact, why would they steal stuff from slex? aren't they treating slex as if it had covid-19? (except that it does :P) 04:01 the achieveX field in the xlogfile 04:01 heh, slex has that only because *you* wanted it :P 04:01 so it's originally your idea 04:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:41894 04:02 wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut they made it so that bullwhips can no longer be used to fish items out of water??? like, seriously, are they PLANNING to trash the game like that? 04:03 why even use a bullwhip anymore if the tricks that it's really good for no longer work! it's already useless as a weapon, why are they now making it useless as a tool as well?! 04:03 definitely not playing that nerfy version :P 04:03 LarienTelrunya: sure, but it was first in SLEX nevertheless. not even unnethack has that, yet :-) 04:05 oh god I shouldn't be looking at the nh3.7 commit history because it's giving me like aneurysms 04:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) averted death, on T:41966 04:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1351481 points, T:41973, petrified by a cockatrice corpse (with the Amulet), while fainted from lack of food 04:22 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 13438 points, T:10968, killed by a mumak 04:32 Neat, buff to initial tool charges 04:32 and crystal balls also suck slightly less 04:46 a newt? 04:58 <@microlance> noOOoo mr wasnt enough for the shopkeepers 04:58 <@microlance> i so wanted dirge 05:00 >Izchak 05:01 Methinks that was your biggest mistake 05:01 !lastgame microlance 05:01 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1587781766.evil.html 05:02 <@microlance> he was the only human close enough to the temple 05:02 <@microlance> only one watchman dropped his corpse 05:03 <@microlance> firebrand and dirge would have been a beautiful pair 05:03 He's also the last shopkeep you want to treat as sac fodder 05:03 Or take lightly in any sense 05:03 does evilhack buff him too? I know I buffed him in slex but not sure about other variants 05:04 <@microlance> necessity demanded it, no werecreatures were spawning at all and i didnt want to altar camp waiting for human soldiers 05:05 <@microlance> i think elf is the better dark knight 05:05 <@microlance> even though the stats suck 05:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] spectre (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 32 points, T:65, killed by a water demon 05:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:17 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:30872 05:25 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] noodle (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 8396 points, T:7092, killed by a baby deep dragon 05:40 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:52 aosdict: fwiw, I don't understand why the VS need a distinct appearance from traps. it is internally a trap. it can be found with a crystal ball when looking for traps. why not showing it as a trap then? 05:52 and I like ~ being the sign for engravings. that's much better 05:55 bhaak: is that for xnethack, or does "vanilla" actually get hilite engravings now (that can most probably not be turned off because hahaha why make stuff configurable :P )? 05:55 LarienTelrunya: xnethack 05:56 forgot a naga destroyed my gloves :') 05:56 amateurhour: Message from K2 at 2020-04-24 20:47 EDT: hahaha 05:56 wow he knew in the past that would happen 05:57 RIP 05:57 you hear the sound of evil laughter 06:02 LarienTelrunya: having a glyph for engravings is nice although not necessary (at least in a vanilla setup as engravings don't convey necessary info for the player). 06:02 bhaak: meh, why have a glyph if you could just hilite the tile, the way slex does it :P 06:03 every square can only have one glyph, but it can have a glyph and a hilite! 06:03 I like the square having ~ as it's a unique spot 06:04 ~ is a worm tail and thus not unique :P 06:04 I mean as opposed to a normal trap as opposed to the glyph being unique 06:04 oh you mean for the VS, I thought for engravings in general 06:05 yeah sorry, should have clarified 06:05 of course I'm the 90-year-old granny who grew up at a time when the VS wasn't visible from a distance at all :D 06:05 the way it is now, there's no sense to the VS anymore 06:06 you could just make it so that the invocation ritual works anywhere where's enough space 06:06 or build a building that gets generated around it or something 06:06 well the original "check every square, just like punching every wall in DOOM 2" style wasn't really interesting either... but in slex I found a way to spice it up without having to change that, hahaha! 06:07 it never really made sense to me that you have to find a random square in a random tunnel 06:07 unnethack has widened the vibrating area so it's much easier to find 06:08 slex made it so that the seven deadly sins are on the VS level, so there's some actual pressure added to finding it (want to find it quickly before the sins wear you down) :D 06:11 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 06:11 a small temple or something around the square that gets destroyed by the invocation would be neat 06:11 amateurhour: also, the space reads 'X'. so you know it was important! 06:12 ooh 06:13 but that would make much more sense. a temple to moloch where you have to invoke the ritual 06:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:16 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20 <@microlance> woops, misstep in the mines and your superdps horse drowns 06:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:28 It reads: "Space Force Gunnery School". 06:30 what's the go-to weapon for valks in evilhack? 06:30 any artifact longsword? 06:30 pretty much 06:30 I'm twoweaponing Sunsword and Vorpy 06:31 since I always get crowned in Evilhack, Vorpy is pretty much guaranteed 06:32 Mjollnir is buffed, but by the time you get it you're usually already expert longsword 06:42 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 07:00 bhaak: the vibrating square is "not a real trap" in that it never does anything harmful. Still, I did rather like the yellow ^ it was in 3.6.0. 07:01 bhaak: yes, I ultimately decided I'd rather have dust engravings conflict with long worm tails than have carved engravings conflict with amulets 07:01 squeaky trap also aren't technically doing anything harmful :) 07:02 bhaak: regards VS level, I'm partial to https://nethack-yanis.github.io/yanis/2288.html 07:04 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 07:05 I have no issue with one true maze level in the game. especially with the wand of digging restriction removed 07:06 it's not stellar level design but it touches on the old style level design that games from that era had. 07:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:972 07:14 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:15 -!- ElizabethCo has joined #hardfought 07:18 -!- ElizabethCo has quit [Client Quit] 07:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1633 07:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1670 07:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1708 07:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) was given the Garnet Rod, on T:33733 07:30 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 07:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) became the Glory of Eequor, on T:33780 07:40 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 07:43 YANI: If the hero is sitting on a staircase and not moving, pets always choose the "approach player" AI path in dog_goal 07:45 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:4483 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed wvc's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:4503 07:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4618 07:57 morning 08:02 * aosdict finds an unlabeled scroll in a shop selling for 107 zorkmids 08:02 * aosdict picks it up, reads it, "hmm... it's blank!" 08:02 * aosdict drops it again, it's now selling for 80 zorkmids 08:05 shopkeeper is getting desperate to make a sell. 08:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:5376 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:459 08:10 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1347 points, T:2465, killed by a pony 08:10 killed by not being able to close a door 08:21 !tell K2 it is so far, SLEX 2.66 has officially been released and entered feature freeze for the upcoming junethack (bundlebundlebundle). it is now ready for the hdf server. if you want to install it, please let me know how it goes, I hope I fixed most of the compile warnings :) 08:21 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 08:22 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 08:23 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Elf Fem Neu), 285 points, T:466, killed by a goblin 08:23 killed by hitting the s key one time too many 08:24 tfw no baby mode press m to s when next to a monster 08:24 hey yeah, if this were vanilla I wouldn't have died 08:25 I shall go straight to the manager and demand a refund 08:26 aosdict: make that "whenever the player is in a room with stairs"? the game should do such things in a less obvious way. so that in the ideal case the player doesn't even notice 08:27 I feel like it'd be weird to have the pet basically attached at the hip if you're just NEAR stairs 08:27 also, what about levels with stairs where there isn't a well defined room 08:27 they don't want to be left behind or they'll get lonely :( 08:28 you also can make it depending on the distance of the player from any stairs 08:28 maybe amend the YANI to, a pet that would normally choose appr = 0 will instead choose appr = 1 with a 100% chance if you're on the stairs, 90% chance if you're one square away, 80% if two, etc 08:29 labelling my earlier suggestion 08:29 YANI: A small temple around the vibrating square that gets destroyed as part of the invocation 08:30 magic marker on dlvl 1 08:30 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2020-04-25 08:21 EDT: it is so far, SLEX 2.66 has officially been released and entered feature freeze for the upcoming junethack (bundlebundlebundle). it is now ready for the hdf server. if you want to install it, please let me know how it goes, I hope I fixed most of the compile warnings :) 08:30 i'm complaining to management, this is too easy 08:30 ^ xnethack 08:30 please don't make pets run to you if you're on the stairs. i often want to leave the pet behind and it's already a nuisance if they're close 08:30 for every nuisance there is an equal or opposite nuisance 08:31 YANI: if you use a tin whistle while on the stairs, the pets always try to move closer to you for the next 20 or so turns. 08:31 that's true wherever you use a tin whistle 08:31 really? I've never found the tin whistle to be useful because the pets do whatever they want :P 08:31 whoa 60 item general store 08:32 if they are within range (i think 8) then they will come to you 08:32 i use that all the time 08:36 [hdf-us] [slshm] Delraven (Yeo Hob Mal Law), 186893 points, T:22622, killed by Vecna 08:39 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 08:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 465 points, T:1136, killed by a dwarf 08:39 !players 08:39 drunkmonkey: [hdf-us] rad [slshm] aosdict [evil] rebatela [evil] eraserhead97 [nh370] Karnac [nh370] musicdemon [slex] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] microlance [evil] Merlek [nh370] gargor [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:39 K2: not so easy now is it ;) 08:40 i blame my cat 08:40 the game gave you a marker just so you could write your will 08:40 what cat 08:40 i had a cat 08:40 have you been playing around with koa and ozzy and the wand of polymorph again 08:40 its name is Ed 08:41 this is sounding like the start of a poem. go on... 08:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2120 08:41 was going for the protection racket 08:41 * K2 used to have a cat named Ed a long time ago 08:42 i had a cat / its name is ed / and he liked to sleep / on my head 08:46 LarienTelrunya "Es ist soweit" is something like "the moment has arrived" or "it's time" 08:47 mobileuser: oh you can't actually use the literal translation for that? 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:2543 08:47 no, "it is so far" means something different 08:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2587 08:49 like "es is weit weg" 08:49 oic 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2625 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:2758 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:6088 08:53 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Mal Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Tyr, on T:8771 08:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6374 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 217 points, T:476, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Elf Fem Neu), 652 points, T:2965, killed by a dagger 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed wvc's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:3296 09:08 coding types - is there a better way to express this: tmp *= 1.5; 09:09 if ais523 were here he'd freak out at the use of floating point 09:09 i get some 'possible loss of data' warning on windows side during compilation, it doesnt like non whole numbers 09:10 what data type is tmp? 09:10 correct 09:10 do you want the half to round up or down 09:11 amateurhour, i'll give you an example 09:12 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/mon.c#L5025 09:12 ah an int 09:12 you basically want some form of tmp = (tmp * 3) / 2 09:12 aosdict: round up probably 09:12 I'd do tmp *= 3; tmp /= 2; 09:13 if you want it to round up, then tmp = ((tmp * 3) + 1) / 2 09:13 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:13 thanks 09:14 there's a few places where this happens - its stuff i pulled in from sporkhack 09:14 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Ang Nbn Law), 177 points, T:451, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:14 figured i'd clean up some of the warnings 09:15 basically, the reason to avoid any non-integer numbers in your program is that it's impossible to represent most real numbers with full precision, so your 1.5 is actually represented in your system as 1.50000000000000372 or something 09:16 is just ones from msvc that you have left? 09:16 and there is no guarantee that different systems will represent that fractional quantity the same 09:16 aosdict gotcha 09:17 amateurhour - this is what I am working off of: https://travis-ci.org/github/k21971/EvilHack/jobs/679138362 09:17 that's the compile log for the evilhack windows binary (visual studio) 09:17 I don't get any with gcc/clang, though tcc fails with the default linux config 09:17 yeah these never show up compiling on linux side 09:18 maybe you're only seeing them for msvc because it has different default warning levels or something 09:18 gonna try -Wall and things for EH with gcc a sec 09:19 yes, turn on more warnings for your builds if you're hunting for them 09:19 amateurhour when i compile evilhack for testing/wizmode things, -Wall is on 09:19 plus afew other things 09:20 look at hints/linux-debug 09:20 ah, didn't notice there was a hints for it 09:20 there's quite a lot of format-overflow warnings 09:20 i can get a clean build using it 09:20 format-overflow has to be suppressed 09:20 nethack has a lot... a LOT 09:21 amateurhour: yes, my debug hints file just does Wno-format-overflow 09:21 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 09:22 NICE, bag of holding. after I spent so much pain last game searching for one and eventually died in the attempt 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10853 09:22 I find one on dlvl3 09:25 might try port nethack TNG to 3.6 or something 09:25 amateurhour whoa 09:26 https://liesangeles.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/66577056.jpg 09:26 cannot tell if sarcasm 09:26 :D 09:27 its a mix 09:27 if you pull that off i'd probably want to host it 09:27 why port to 3.6 when you're just going to have to port to 3.7 in a year or so 09:27 it doesn't look too bad, not a huge patchset 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7654 09:28 because things like the quest data aren't done with lua, keeping the scope small 09:28 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4830 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7046 points, T:7825, killed by a dwarf lord, while unconscious from rotten food 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 116 points, T:323, killed by a boulder 09:37 monk in evilhack: I guess wearing a DSM means a monk won't be able to hit anything? Unlike in vanilla where you can overcome the -20 to hit penalty? 09:39 pretty much yeah 09:39 or any body armor 09:40 but throwing shuriken would still be ok? 09:40 perhaps? I dont think I tested throwing things while wearing body armor 09:41 but you really dont want to wear body armor as a monk. master po would disapprove 09:41 Yeah I know I am a horrible monk player ;-) 09:42 My monks feel guilty. 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby owlbear, on T:8148 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 15416 points, T:8154, petrified by a cockatrice 09:45 Ouch rebatela :-( 09:45 oh that sucked 09:45 had good stuff. magic lamp etc 09:45 oh no.... 09:45 i had taken my robe off too. But i had already explored that level and didn't find poltrap 09:45 ah well 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1266 09:46 maybe someone will find my statue 09:46 sweet, used the boh to rob the shop of everything it held dear 09:46 I had a monk petrification earlier today rebatela 09:46 forgot a naga destroyed my gloves 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1360 09:48 irclog: 09:48 forgot a naga destroyed my gloves :') 09:48 amateurhour: Message from K2 at 2020-04-24 20:47 EDT: hahaha 09:48 wow he knew in the past that would happen 09:48 that was remarkable 09:48 yeah those nagas can suck. I was telling someone that the other day who was asking about not having MR in vanilla 09:48 I don't even know what the original laughter message was for :') 09:49 Oh I know :-) 09:49 everyone remembers L and polytraps but those NAGAs near the castle etc. will fry your armor 09:49 oh, interesting, containers with unpaid contents are listed in the drop unpaid items menu 09:49 amateurhour You laughed at K2 when he got eaten by a zombie ;-) 09:50 >:) 09:50 wooden plate mail eh? 3/8 the weight of iron for 1 less AC. sounds good to me 09:51 :P 09:51 * hothraxxa lights aosdict's wooden plate mail on fire 09:51 that was mean 09:51 i'm nasty 09:51 2 less AC is still good though :) 09:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:52 k2: i meant to tell you that your last windows build crashed if you tried to teleport to the valley in wizmode 09:53 i tried it in my linux build, no issues 09:55 ok thanks 09:56 karma 10:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:01 that last commit cleaned up some of those warnings on windows side (yay) 10:01 couple more still not sure how to address. hmm 10:02 delet windows support 10:02 warnings gone 10:02 hah 10:03 alright i have go adult for awhile. blah. back in a bit 10:04 Good morning, I am calling from Microsoft to fix a virus on your computer. Kindly install TeamViewer and enter the following sharing code so I may take control... 10:05 * Andrio opens TeamViewer on a VM and enters the code 10:06 * nabru opens TeamViewer on a Linux VM with a desktop that looks like Windows and lets the scammer wrestle with it 10:07 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:07 wow, another general store. I think I'm gonna let this hobbit zombie over here reincarnate and sic him on the shopkeeper... 10:08 What desktop? 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3064 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3090 10:09 aw crap it rotted away 10:09 the one time I WANT a zombie... 10:09 They automatically attack any living creature, don't they? 10:10 yes 10:10 Wouldn't the shopkeeper mop the floor with them? 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3278 10:12 you would think so, but in evilhack with the disease attack they actually kill shopkeepers a lot 10:13 also, if the shk dispatches them, they will likely just get up and try again 10:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:14 ah 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7309 10:29 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 10:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 10:31 Good morning~ 10:31 AntiGulp: Message from Tangles at 2020-04-24 10:10 EDT: https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36/commit/1c5df1eda60d55674183bed330de750a1b337540 10:31 AntiGulp: Message from @ScienceBall at 2020-04-25 03:01 EDT: I was looking at the dumplog of bouquet's SpliceHack ascension (from earlier today), and I noticed that it said "Plane of Water: An untended shop". That doesn't sound right. https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/splicehack/dumplog/1587341302.splice.html 10:31 Hello AntiGulp 10:31 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:32 scienceball just didn't find the ultra secret hidden shop on that plane 10:36 I think I know what might have caused the behavior ScienceBall noticed. Apparently gas clouds cause glitches on the plane of water, and in Splice monsters were not prohibited from casting gas creation spells on the plane of water. 10:36 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:36 also the player is free to read stinking cloud there right 10:37 ugh, my pet fell into a sokoban hole, doesn't want to come out of it, and there's a ranged spellcaster sitting behind the holes who's taking every opportunity to attack 10:38 cool, spellcaster killed him 10:38 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 10:40 "hooray my pet is dead" - aosdict 10:41 "hooray this solved the problem I should never have created by bringing my pet into soko without a magic whistle" - aosdict 10:41 did you try #untrap ? 10:42 yes, since it was a narrow corridor whenever I did get him out he just fell right back in (probably contributed to him dying, to be honest) 10:42 >:( 10:43 :( 10:45 amateurhour, you’re trying to resurrect NTNG? 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:4870 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 4893 points, T:5084, killed by a barrow wight 10:49 ^ that should not have happened, it was double moving me and using that to stunlock me 10:52 I'm bored and it looks like a fun little project to port it 10:52 Nice! That sound like it’ll be really cool. :) 10:52 whats ntng? 10:52 a nethack variant from like 1994 or so 10:52 oh 10:53 features a Geek role and a lot of douglas adams references 10:53 oh nethack: tng 10:53 right 10:54 slex has most of the nhtng stuff patched in, including the geek, the chemistry set, the vogons and babelfishes and other douglas adams monsters and more :D 10:55 nice 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5408 10:58 I'm not that psyched about a modern port of TNG because it seems like all the really neat stuff has found its way into vanilla or modern variants by now. 10:59 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 10:59 <{Demo}> that's like saying the same thing about slashem 11:00 <{Demo}> doesn't matter, people haven't implemented them right or in the right context 11:00 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [*.net *.split] 11:00 -!- farfar has quit [*.net *.split] 11:00 -!- farfar has joined #hardfought 11:01 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:02 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the tourist of groovejumper, the former Excursionist, on T:20537 11:03 {Demo}: monk role is the prime offender, in slashem the monk is an ass-kicker role but in vanilla his little-girl punches do 12 damage max at grand master... 11:04 I love vanilla monk. There, I said it 11:04 -!- nabru-mobile has joined #hardfought 11:05 What about kicks? 11:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:05 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 11:07 such a brave and controversial opinion AntiGulp 11:07 I agree though 11:08 <{Demo}> everything is so watered down 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8966 11:16 ...zombie 11:20 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 11:22 hmmm chiropteran's 'body is too large to fit through' a diagonal choke point, but can still 'squeeze into a small opening' past a boulder. 11:22 -!- nabru-mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:28 are the files in ./util standard lex/yacc? been ages since I've read them 11:33 I think so 11:33 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of Aris, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:23058 11:34 -!- Bliss56 has quit [*.net *.split] 11:35 3 lb brisket about to go into the smoker 11:35 doing this up texas-style 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:719 11:36 K2 you should try smoking some gouda cheese sometime 11:36 one of my favorite kinds of cheese 11:36 heh... how do i do that without melting it 11:36 (and we love gouda cheese also) 11:36 its mini-me's fav 11:37 hmm, maybe it can only be done in a smokehouse, where it's not a little concentrated pocket of heat that would melt cheese 11:38 i'll tell ya what. this all electric smoker, it is on point 11:38 found a 'how to smoke gouda' article that says leave the cheese out at room temperature for several hours to allow it to form a skin 11:38 its almost foolproof 11:38 then the smoking process won't melt the skin apparently 11:38 huh 11:38 what temp do you smoke it at? 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) permanently converted to neutral, on T:942 11:38 <@riker> smoked gouda is great 11:38 -!- nabru-mobile has joined #hardfought 11:39 -!- nabru-mobile has quit [Client Quit] 11:39 <90 degrees, according to the article 11:39 gouda is the bomb 11:40 are european cheeses fairly expensive in the US? 11:40 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:40 hmm i dunno if my smoker will go that low temp wise 11:41 the imported holland smoked gouda I bought last week is cheaper here than where I used to live. I got a 5 inch diameter wheel for $4.50 or so 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:9822 11:42 amateurhour - cheese in vermont isnt too expensive, since we produce a lot of milk here, and in turn a fair amount of cheese production happens here 11:42 in the US I think vermont has more cheese and beer producers than any other state (per capita) 11:44 <@riker> wisconsin? 11:44 you beat wisconsin? 11:44 per capita 11:44 this is what the Wife has told me 11:44 i do not question the Wife 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2602 11:49 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 36834 points, T:10635, killed by an energy vortex 11:54 nobody should smoke gouda. vape that shit 11:55 that's a goud adea 11:55 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:3362 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3728 12:00 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:06 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2849 points, T:4385, killed by a snake 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:478 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:600 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a green dragon, on T:10428 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 556 points, T:635, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:207 12:28 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 12:31 -!- IrinaMats has joined #hardfought 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] JimH (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2509 points, T:1657, killed by a giant ant 12:32 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 72344 points, T:26377, killed by a tiger 12:33 -!- IrinaMats has quit [Client Quit] 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1578 12:41 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:453 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 221 points, T:707, killed by a brown mold 12:42 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 12:42 -!- ElectricPizza has joined #hardfought 12:43 -!- ElectricPizza has quit [Client Quit] 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:731 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11982 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1185 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3669 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 541 points, T:2884, killed by a gecko 12:51 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3771 12:53