00:13 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Lic Fem Cha), 2239 points, T:745, killed by a monster (Alabaster mummy) 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Cen Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7599 00:16 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Rus Fem Cha), 12174 points, T:50, killed by a cowardly attack on her breasts 00:18 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Ink Fem Cha), 11934 points, T:27, killed by a monster (woodsman) 00:23 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Ink Fem Cha), 0 points, T:14, burned by molten lava 00:24 <@riker> sig: do not do him 00:24 <@riker> absolutely do not do him 00:24 <@riker> you will get clapped lol, especially without engagement 00:29 <@Sig> I actually think I have engagement at the stash, does that protect me from The Nudening? 00:29 Turn 14 lava death 00:30 <@riker> sig: meh, it's not worth fighting him anyway I don't think 00:31 <@riker> you can't use his loot 00:31 <@riker> and without drain res it's also going to be painful 00:32 <@Sig> Oh yeah, shouldn't do that then. 00:32 <@Sig> He's still mandatory though right? I do have to take care of it eventually? 00:33 <@riker> yeah 00:33 <@riker> but i mean 00:33 <@riker> you don't need that for a while :) 00:33 <@Sig> Alright, just wanted to double check 00:33 <@riker> and it would suck to die to him early 00:33 <@riker> he can also cast summon nasties, I think 00:34 <@riker> if not him then one of his 3 consorts 00:34 <@Sig> Eugh 00:34 <@riker> a scrap titan would end that asap 00:34 <@Sig> Yeah absolutely not gonna do that then 00:36 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Rus Fem Cha), 753 points, T:2784, killed by a monster (Shami-Amourae) 00:44 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Hea Wer Mal Neu), 910 points, T:1395, dispatched by a watchman, while sleeping 00:45 <@riker> sig I'm sleeping now don't die painfully :) 00:53 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Fem Cha), 147 points, T:226, killed by a poisoned well 00:54 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Fem Cha), 28 points, T:23, killed by a monster (water demon) 00:54 <@Sig> I'll try, thanks for letting me know coach 01:01 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 01:02 <@Sig> I can't get the invweight option to work in anything but evil. I thought it was 3.6+ exclusive but it's not working in vanilla 3.7 either. Is that an evil specific option? 01:04 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Mal Cha), 12474 points, T:18, killed by a crossbow bolt 01:05 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Mal Cha), 40 points, T:38, killed by a monster (twen) 01:07 <@luxidream> no, it's in several variants 01:07 <@luxidream> just not vanilla 01:07 <@Sig> Ah, I see 01:09 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Sig (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:542 01:11 <@Sig> I've got a dlvl1 altar, create monster, and Sting. So the plan is fast Stormbringer. 01:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:14 <@Sig> The plan is "my dog eats all my food and I starve to death" 01:16 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Mal Cha), 1614 points, T:1046, killed by a shotgun shell 01:17 <@luxidream> inb4 Orcrist -> Ogresmasher -> Trollsbane 01:18 <@Sig> I need an elvish sword to get Orcrist right? 01:18 <@luxidream> You can get it through sacrifice if it hasn't been created yet 01:18 <@luxidream> but yes, you need an elven broadsword 01:18 <@luxidream> that won't be turning up on D:1 anytime soon 01:19 <@Sig> Er yeah, I meant to name it. I'll never find that, it's better just to sac now. 01:19 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Mal Cha), 12226 points, T:56, killed by a monster (bugbear), while frozen by a potion 01:27 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Fem Cha), 82 points, T:36, killed by a monster (steam vortex) 01:35 <@Sig> Stingy-ass god. 01:36 <@Sig> Admittedly I've had to pray for stomach twice. 01:37 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Sig (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1181 points, T:3327, killed by a giant spider 01:38 <@Sig> Dammit 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Sig (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 76 points, T:480, killed by a newt 01:47 <@Sig> Forgot I was stressed and wasn't properly reading chat, let the thing do most of my health before I realized I needed to drop stuff 01:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:25204 02:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 26273 points, T:12705, killed by a yeti 02:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25714 02:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:26120 02:20 Calling it a night, sweet dreams all. 02:20 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:42 where are the damn downstairs? 02:48 hard to say 02:49 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 02:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:53 there was column blocking the center of the room, but I found no secret door 02:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 jumping boots", on T:27009 03:20 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:22 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 03:32 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:43 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 03:44 @sp?lord belaphius 03:45 @sl?lord belaphius 03:45 @sl?storm giant 03:45 @sp?storm giant 03:47 joes: you mean the stairs were inside the column? 03:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:59 it seems you found the stairs after all joes? 04:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:28733 04:11 Hmmmm I wrested one last charge from a wand of opening and it didn't ask for a direction to zap, just turned to dust. That seems wrong? 04:15 How did you wrest it? 04:16 Just kept zapping. 04:16 Maybe wresting is useless for directional wands? 04:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:28876 04:18 * Umbire shrugs 04:19 Good getting long sword unrestricted btw, Ardub 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) became Ishtar's Envoy of Balance, on T:44658 04:29 paxed: yes 04:29 mobileuser: no, I went to the Mines first 04:31 joes: do you have a screenshot? 04:31 Ah... what did you mean by "column"? A vertical wall? 04:34 3x3 walls, suspected stairs inside 04:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:38 joes: was the room just big enough to fit the 3x3 walls, so there was a one-block wide "corridor" around it? 04:42 paxed: I could walk around ofc, the room was larger than 3x3. maybe even 2 tiles space? 04:42 Those occur now and then in the Mines and occasionally they have the stairs there 04:42 Or otherwise in some corner/area you have to squeeze into 04:42 (or just borrow pickacxe :B) 04:42 a* 04:42 Umbire: it was in the Dungeon 04:42 don't have one yet 04:43 Oh no it sounds like I'm talking something else entirely 04:44 joes: there was a secret door? 04:44 paxed: I didn't find one 04:45 i would like a screenshot or a ttyrec of it 04:46 lemme find it 04:47 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/nethack/ttyrec/2020-04-21.06:11:47.ttyrec 04:47 but it's long 04:48 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:49 is Giantslayer worth it as a Tourist? Or just daggers all the way? 04:51 If you have no better melee weapon, just use it until you find a better one? Daggers for ranged attack. 04:55 Giantslayer is little more than a long sword with a slight to-hit bonus, but it's not a bad early game weapon. 04:55 Keep the daggers anyway though 04:57 It's a gateway to one of the Brands and can help you train longsword 04:58 Tourists aren't restricted in long swords though 05:00 Not in the sense of "unlocking" 05:01 By the time you get one of the brands (*if* you do) you should be decently trained in the skill 05:05 Mm 05:06 I want to tame this unicorn 05:06 Unfortunately tourists can only reach basic skill in long swords 05:06 Good luck 05:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 05:09 I just use regular silver sabres when playing as tourist, you don't really need an artiweapon 05:11 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:12 My biggest hope when playing Tourist is to get Magicbane from a sacrifice :-) 05:17 The race is on. 05:17 oh, never mind. 05:18 I think I had Magicbane on my successful tourist 05:18 I was tempted to use it on my ranger, but ended up using Stormbringer instead. 05:24 -!- amateurhour has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:25 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:25 Hey all! The new "Scatter bag of holding contents instead of deleting them" change is already active in save games from earlier 3.7 or only in newly started games? 05:26 Asking for my extinctionist tourist i started a week ago. 05:27 Probably 05:27 Meaning, i have like 6 bags and am eager to try. lol 05:27 I don't see any reason it wouldn't be, assuming other changes don't break the save file 05:27 ok~ 05:27 I strongly suspect only in newly started games. 05:27 Ah 05:27 Usually these new 3.7 releases are save-beraking. 05:28 ah yes 05:28 *breaking 05:28 it assumes you're actually running the new version. 05:28 You can check that with #version 05:28 hdf it might keep you on the version your save was from 05:29 My savegame says 3.7.0-16 05:29 Yes, hdf lets you play on the older version until your game is finished. 05:30 The current version is 3.7.0-17 05:30 Perfect, thx for fast info 05:30 no problem 05:30 gn and gl 05:30 gonna sleep 05:31 see you sleep well! 05:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31 gn8 from lunch table 05:32 Silly idea: fill a bag of holding with potions of paralysis and blow it up to spray them all over the place. 05:32 congrats, you're now paralysed! 05:33 or trice eggs 05:35 Or hundreds of cream pies from extincting Kops. lol. gonna do that on astral. 05:35 ah, bummer not this game 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:45914 05:51 evilhack: I just killed a black dragon with the Bell of Opening. Only 100% disintegration item I have :-) 05:52 * 100% disintegration resistant 06:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:31690 06:12 -!- jannis has joined #hardfought 06:17 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 06:18 -!- jannis has quit [Quit: Bye.] 06:28 I *finally* identified a /oDigging to get to the ghoul(!) on the downstairs 06:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:32542 06:47 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 06:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:50 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 06:55 ^ cornered from a throne room 06:55 could be seen coming a whil 07:07 how come you needed a wand of digging? 07:09 if I understand correctly the stairs were boxed in by walls 07:13 ok, so my soko closets are occupied by a pair of orcish boots, a stone shield and a bone crude arrow 07:13 which to choose? :/ 07:14 went for the middle one 07:14 not too surprisingly, there was an orc inside 07:14 well, that was a decent outcome 07:15 Phew! 07:15 yeah 07:15 I wonder if the other 2 orcs have now been vaporised :-) 07:16 heh, no they're still in there 07:16 FOREVER! 07:16 LOL 07:18 elenmirie_: silver amulet of magic resistance buddies! 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:50383 07:19 woot! 07:19 of course, I'm not actually wearing mine since I have a comr 07:19 I needed mine 07:19 I just have a dragonhide orcish cloak 07:19 hmm, does MR protect you fully from polymorph being zapped at you? 07:19 still protect you I should say 07:20 yes, afaik 07:20 In a previous game I got a golden amulet of MR which made leprechauns very dangerous :-) 07:20 then I can probably stop wearing this amulet of unchanging for now 07:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 gold dragon scale mail", on T:50393 07:20 yay gold DSM! 07:21 EPI: that can be stolen by leprechauns too 07:23 Are you sure they can't at the moment? =L 07:25 YANI: explictly (a)pplying an axe or pickaxe should not attack a monster, but instead swing through the air. After all, (a)pply is for using tools, not intended for attacking. 07:25 unless it's actually made of gold (it shouldn't be, it should be DRAGON_HIDE) they can't currently steal it 07:27 elenmirie_: maybe scroll of magic detection could have helped 07:27 depends on if those orcs were stacked with loot 07:27 death dropped wand of death?! woooooo 07:27 mobileuser full support 07:28 Then conduct players could just switch off autodig. 07:28 Seems like a simple and fair solution to me. 07:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed Ring of P'hul", on T:50452 07:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed Ring of P'hul", on T:50453 07:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed Ring of P'hul", on T:50454 07:29 mobileuser: but applying a pick wields it, so you have the same problem with forgetting to switch back to your main weapon 07:29 Yeah, but THAT still seems OK to me. 07:29 that parts not a big deal 07:29 yeah 07:30 It seems like it doesn't really fix the problem. 07:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed Ring of P'hul", on T:50492 07:30 If I'm a monk. I apply my pick to dig something, then forget to unwield it. next monster I hit, conduct broken 07:31 Mayve not, but I still find it strange that an explicit apply can attack a monster. 07:31 *maybe 07:31 tbh add a rock pick or something that is just a tool 07:31 >:( 07:31 one of these badboys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologist%27s_hammer 07:31 don't even care if it digs slower 07:32 yeah, that looks totally not like a weapon :-} 07:32 everything can be a weapon in nethack, even a rubber chicken 07:32 https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4137/4829923836_73f9443d88_b.jpg 07:34 Even the Bell of Opening is a weapon when fighting black dragons in evilhack :-) 07:40 I think I have a better YANI 07:41 When autodig=OFF and you are wielding a pickaxe, you need to use F to attack and a to dig. 07:42 it'd be annoying as an arc 07:42 the price of playing a conduct? 07:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:50622 07:43 I mean they often wield picks as a weapon and have autodig off because of accidentally wasting time/hunger 07:43 most non-conduct players have autodig, so would not apply to them 07:43 oh... 07:44 I never do that as an arc so didn't think of that. 07:44 darn 07:45 dang it, a spectre phased into my stash closet and opened my stash 07:45 what do you tend to use instead, roman butt javelin? 07:46 hah! you sneaked a mention in ;-) 07:47 I mean I use pickaxe as a weapon as arc but still autodig 07:47 oh right 07:47 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:57 what if there were alternate ways to dig? like master marts being able to smash walls and gmaster marts able to smash stone? 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had a flail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:27826 07:57 NO 07:58 give... me... demonbane 07:58 flail around some more, maybe he'll like u 08:01 there's not like a minimum XL of 20 for getting it, is there? 08:02 nope, and it's still the first guaranteed artifact or whatever 08:02 when I tried evilhack altar camping as a monk I got gauntlets of fumbling over and over 08:03 and then a staff of war 08:03 which I assume is intended as a threat to wear the fumbling 08:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:09 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 08:12 Hmm, another firsty for me, I try to repeatedly kill Medusa with stone to flesh and thought she would stone herself again. But after she revived, i get "Medusa doesn't seem to notice that her gaze was reflected". Is she blind? I applied stetho and no blind was shown? I hoped i do not need to wish for trice corpse to extinct her. 08:13 are you invisible 08:13 ? 08:13 Ohhhhh 08:13 she can't see you for some reason, are you inv- 08:13 yeah 08:13 THX! 08:13 yw 08:13 Dafuq 08:14 thx guys, ninjaed like a lightning as always. kudos all! 08:15 *Teleports back to Soko to poly for lousy mummywrap* 08:16 Or just beat her up 08:16 nah, i want 12 on all special monters 08:16 *120 kills 08:17 Ah 08:18 Last time i skipped medusa since i destoid her before deciding to go extinctionist. Also never had Demo since i killed his summoner too early 08:19 evilhack players: a blessed bell opening opens crystal chests, I just tried and it works 08:19 Of course perhaps I am the last to find out :-) 08:20 blessed bell *of opening 08:20 Mayor incident yesterday was when one of the last gelatinous cubes sat on my icebox full of 80+ trice corpses, ate the box and i did not notice the corpses rotted away during offering-spree. I nearly cried. 08:21 <{Demo}1> evilhack does not respect the sanctity of stashes 08:23 Gelatinous cubes eat ice boxes? 08:23 So you can't displace pets onto polymorph traps any more 08:24 Thats the hoccums razor i came up with after discovering all my corpses wthout icebox rotting away some turns later. did not see it happening 08:24 I'm not surprised that gelatinous cubes can eat ice boxes 08:24 they are the nethack equivalent of a hoover 08:24 but why can they digest them? 08:25 some last game it ate a stash large box containg +1000 scrolls and potions in one turn. 08:26 But ice boxes are made of plastic. They shouldn't be able to eat plastic. 08:26 yes, only organic matter 08:26 hmmmm, it could have been another minster. had the level full to the brim with spammed create monster 08:27 Nothing can eat ice boxes 08:28 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 08:28 Gotta investigate my dumplog when i am dead or asc. Now i am interested to really know... 08:29 I mean, i lost stashboxes in misguided poly beams. The content of that icebox was on one tile, just without the box anymore 08:30 andrio: you can't step off a poly trap and displace your pet onto it BUT you can be next to a poly trap and displace your pet onto it 08:30 how? 08:31 you and pet on squares next to the poly trap. displace pet, sometimes it lands on poly trap 08:31 mm 08:31 i've done this 08:32 Did you block off all the other spaces it could move to? 08:32 no i juts kept doing it 08:32 mm 08:36 in fact i think if you block off everything else you get "$pet doesn't want to trade places" 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:455 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:594 08:56 oh is that new? the not being able to displace pets onto traps thing 08:56 depends on the variant 08:57 can you still displace pets such that they drown? 08:57 i forget when it showed up in evilhack. not that long ago 08:57 No 09:01 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Mon Eth Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed greased quicksilver", on T:8661 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:6992 09:16 morning 09:17 morning 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 373 points, T:1055, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:18 found a potion of polymorph early in the game, threw it at my pet, now I have a baby gray dragon pet :D 09:18 heh 09:19 The flask crashes on Charlotte's head and breaks into shards. The potion of polymorph evaporates. Charlotte turns into a baby gray dragon! 09:19 hug it and pet it and name it george 09:19 :D 09:20 hmm... how come we never see female monsters that are M1_OVIPAROUS lay eggs? 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:232 09:21 And... she tried to kill a shopkeeper, failing in the process 09:21 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21 Charlotte bites Annootok. Annootok hits Charlotte. Charlotte is killed! 09:21 :( 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 95 points, T:266, killed by a small mimic 09:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:21 you can't displace pets to drown them anymore, but you can still ride a steed into water and drown it 09:22 YANI: female monsters that are M1_OVIPAROUS periodically lay eggs, especially those found in a nest (such as queen killer bees) 09:23 possible addition: every time it lays an egg it has a possibility of canceling itself; canceled oviparous monsters won't lay any more eggs. 09:24 To prevent infinite eggs (which you could poly for infinite food, and so on...) 09:24 <{Demo}1> hmm, for some reason i aggravate monsters 09:24 or infinite pets 09:24 Also, it won't lay eggs while sleeping. This prevents a queen bee from slowly filling a level up with bees while you haven't found where it is yet. 09:25 <{Demo}1> how long does shrieker aggravate monsters last? 09:26 !who 09:26 aosdict: [hdf-us] Demo5 [ndnh] rebatela [evil] krm26 [evil] hothraxxa [evil] hyperion67 [nh370] Karnac [nh370] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:26 aosdict, how about the interaction with cancellation preventing dragon breath? 09:26 assuming you didn't change shrieker aggravate monsters that should be a one-time effect 09:26 jilles: seems fine to me 09:27 oh you mean if a dragon lays an egg and then can't breathe anymore 09:28 exactly 09:34 Hi K2, I still managed to drown the snowman with a wand of fire. Maybe that change wasn't live yet? I did find a BoH in a crystal chest. 09:35 oh you put the guaranteed boh in a crystal chest 09:36 I can't seem to find a wand of opening or spellbook of knock at all 09:36 lol 09:36 blessed bell of opening works too 09:36 <@microlance> -36 ac but only 120 hp on my lvl 13 monk now, a dance with nurses and i should be able to take on the quest boss in man to man combat 09:37 maybe its because your game started before the change went live 09:37 ok, still surprised I found the BoH then... 09:37 microlance don't take on master kaen in hand to hand combat lol 09:37 :S 09:37 oh monster props 09:38 or something 09:38 yup 09:38 we'll see after a new game is started 09:38 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 135 points, T:614, killed by a sewer rat 09:38 but i test any change i make, i couldnt drown it 09:39 <@microlance> not really hand to hand i use a +7 frostbrand 09:39 I don't know how complex it would be, but it would be a nice touch if the trees came alive again after defeating the ice queen :-) 09:39 lol oh man 09:39 yes it would 09:39 and the ice river in the starting level was actual water 09:40 that last bit could be awkward for some ;-) 09:41 <@microlance> alive trees like in evil dead 1? 09:42 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3767 points, T:4089, petrified by a chickatrice 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible MrPercentage's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:10318 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:169 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:340 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 238 points, T:613, killed by a grid bug, while praying 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:130 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:51066 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 267 points, T:490, killed by a dagger 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:657 10:00 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 350 points, T:925, offed by Mr. Grond; the shopkeeper 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 551 points, T:1005, killed by a giant bat 10:05 Gotta love liches on Dlvl:2 10:06 And shops with lava in them 10:08 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 330 points, T:1110, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:10 well that sucked utterly 10:10 <@Ambition> What happened? 10:11 just got inundated by shades on some new chaos quest level I hadn't seen before and didn't have free action. 10:11 <@Ambition> Oh wow 10:13 The fire elemental engulfs you! Your candle's flame is extinguished. 10:13 hm 10:13 that doesn't seem like what should happen 10:14 maybe there's no oxygen in the centre 10:15 ah but you can breathe can't you 10:15 yeah, it doesn't suffocate you 10:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:555 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:620 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:540 10:20 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:606 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 304 points, T:648, killed by a hobbit 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:311 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:919 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:941 10:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Mon Eth Fem Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:11661 10:25 <{Demo}1> jesusssss whyyy 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:52109 10:26 <{Demo}1> of all the armor artifacts to be given that I can't wear, that one is probably the second meanest 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:11074 10:26 dude hits hard 10:27 just barely survived that 10:27 <{Demo}1> eh, slotless extrinsic sleep res. 10:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] RasselK (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 120 points, T:154, killed by a fox 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12466 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:1809 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1575 10:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 6642 points, T:5007, killed by a soldier ant 10:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] RasselK (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 940 points, T:1726, killed by Ms. Tuktoyaktuk, the shopkeeper 10:52 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3565 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3591 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Brigit, on T:3606 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3676 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Brigit, on T:3822 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:15958 11:06 -!- {Demo}1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:16104 11:10 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 11:13 K2: I get the message "Your silver elven long sword seems very cumbersome." but I have two weapon combat. 11:13 skilled - maximum weight of offhand weapon is 40 (can use sabers/long swords) 11:14 elven long sword is 35 11:14 oh wood... 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7145 11:15 darn, weighs too much as silver. sorry! 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:17661 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Neferet the Green, on T:17687 11:24 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:7968 11:26 <@Pacra> rip neferet 11:26 <@Pacra> @rebetala no more giant monk? 11:27 <@Pacra> !lastgame rebetala race=giant 11:27 @Pacra: No last game for (rebetala,race=giant). 11:28 !lastgame rebatela race=giant 11:28 joes: No last game for (rebatela,race=giant). 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8842 11:30 <@Pacra> oh, I see 11:30 <@Pacra> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1586629061.evil.html 11:30 <@Pacra> wow 11:32 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 pacra: ehh went back to human. i miss being a giant though sometimes (other than the whole being able to wear tshirt/cloak) 11:32 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:38 yeah, in that game where I drowned, i had all the invocation stuff. Just demogorgon and rodney left 11:39 i guess i didn't have to book but that's what i should have been doing instead of playing with frost giants w/ fire wands 11:39 the book* 11:44 pacra: congrats on the tourist, btw ! 11:47 YANI: For every historic statue you destroy in the Oracle level, she jacks up her prices. 11:48 (If you can convince a monster to destroy them, this doesn't count against you...) 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:35287 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:35290 11:51 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:51 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:35466 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:35561 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:35565 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:20450 12:04 K2 sorry I just realised I can wield vorpal blade offhand without weight penalty. I hope the beheading still works... 12:04 it should 12:05 and yeah silver is heavier than iron/metal 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:53350 12:06 \o/ 12:06 thx very nice 12:06 and yes vorpal will work in offhand, just (re)verified 12:07 excellent now I can do some real damage :-) 12:08 Oh dear I just found snickersnee as well :') 12:10 sigh 12:11 I have turned into an overrated programming language 12:11 also how hench are these pythons? somehow I tore my robe becoming one 12:12 <@Andrio Celos> Hmm, GitHub is down. 12:12 <@Andrio Celos> never mind; it's back now 12:12 it's still degraded status 12:13 github I mean 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:9216 12:14 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 12:16 "This drawbridge cannot be destroyed" mmmmm 12:33 is that the one by Charon? 12:34 Yeah, I figured it out in the meantime :-) 12:34 there's some guaranteed wands of opening on that floor supposedly 12:34 si 12:34 yes, found it! 12:34 drawbridge down 12:35 so there's also a solution to no boh, go all the way to the valley then go back to the ice branch, lol 12:36 or do the quest and use bell of opening 12:36 (blessed) 12:37 I usually use those charges for finding the door in the sanctum in vanilla 12:37 if I haven't found secret door detection 12:37 I've not managed to get to the sanctum in evilhack so wouldn't know if it'd be useful there :| 12:39 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:39 <@microlance> i took kaen down with no tricks straight bumping, but he sure did alot of damage during those three hits i got on him 12:39 what was your max health? 12:39 you must have been confident 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:12554 12:40 <@microlance> 202 and -44ac 12:41 for goodness sake, another polytrap 12:41 lost robe with first one, cloak of invis with second one 12:42 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:42 i have nightmares of losing my robe to poly traps 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12561 12:42 in evil, at least you'll find another one at some point 12:43 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:12573 12:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:43 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 18087 points, T:8611, killed by a leocrotta 12:45 what is going on with all these traps 12:45 stood on level tele trap and it took me to dlvl 3 from dlvl 12 mines 12:45 went back down again and stood on another level tele trap, right back to dlvl 3 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:12585 12:46 another level tele trap 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "the blessed +2 Magicbane", on T:12790 12:49 amateurhour: and then you get the catacombs :D 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Cen Fem Neu) had a leather dusty cloak entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:9589 12:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1396 12:59 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 13:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2972 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1233 13:05 xNetHack updated (all servers) 13:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:9877 13:07 dammit. prayed too soon (lost 10 pts of protection) 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1768 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:54791 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2640 13:14 sorry minetown priest. needed that gold back 13:15 sketchy doing that w/out reflection though 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:59584 13:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:59585 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a twisted staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:26568 13:18 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 13:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:54888 13:19 that's one of those staffs i was talking about amateurhour 13:19 which one did you get? 13:20 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 13:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3453 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3488 13:21 healing 13:21 i dont' need them because i'm not a dumb giant 13:21 glad he didn't give me an artifact (still might wish for PYEC) 13:22 avoiding going to kaen's level for same reason 13:22 worried about trapdoors or something? 13:22 buuuuut. I don't have reflection yet. It would be great to learn the spell 13:22 oh for the artifact 13:22 gotcha 13:22 yeah artifact count 13:22 i have no shame about wishing for artifacts in this game lol 13:24 it seems rather necessary as a giant monk really 13:25 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14050 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:748 13:27 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:29 amateur: yeah, I mean you have to get MR somehow. I like how there's an amulet of MR though now 13:29 -!- theRaisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:30 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:30 /win 24 13:30 oops 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4527 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1436 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1436 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:14732 13:34 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:34 dammit just lost my +5 ring of protection AND my robe 13:35 yeah... need reflection i think 13:35 went from -25AC to -10 twice now 13:35 aaaand no robe 13:36 so probably gonna have to go kill kaen 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5851 13:43 at least kaen isn't too bad rebatela, do you have magic missile? 13:43 boulder fort still works 13:45 evilhack salamander drown attack, is it a 2-stage process like for eels/krakens? First they grab you and on the next turn drown you? 13:45 <@riker> i believe so 13:45 <@riker> it's the same attack code as those, I think 13:46 thx! so need to have that wand of teleport ready and pay attention to the messages... 13:47 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 13:49 to be clear it's the next successful attack, not the next turn 13:50 mobileuser you can add pauses to ensure you see those messages 13:50 yes. i have a bunch in my evilhackrc 13:51 alerts. not stops 13:51 easy to miss a stop 13:51 oh, I use stops, what are you referring to with alerts? 13:52 tangles added alerts. they require a tab to continue 13:52 huh, that's neat 13:52 i think they're in 3.6hdf. definitely in evilhack 13:53 they have saved me from grief on several occasions 13:53 amateurhour: yeah i'm not worried about kaen and I want his robe. But i'd rather get the wand first and either wish up dragonbane or pyec (or both) 13:54 is twoflower easier than the master of thieves? let's find out 13:58 losing that +5 ring of protection really sucked 13:58 yes, next succesfull attack, which could be next turn zo zap it is :-) 13:58 definitely could be next turn 13:59 there are several ways to get released though 13:59 lev you mean? 13:59 i prefer a horn 14:00 base MR 0, horn should work 14:01 and amateurhour: yes, i have magic missile but can't cast it without robe 14:01 just found demonbane on the floor. 14:01 well, I sort of cane 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:47162 14:01 <@Sweet Bodhi> walking cane? 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:47163 14:02 poke in the eye with a sharp stick 14:02 <@microlance> is vlad vorpable? i dont think one handed dps is enough to kill him, so hitting him with my crowning gift might be the best choice 14:02 <@riker> he should be vorpable 14:02 mobileuser: a horn DOES work. done it quite a few times 14:02 thx, good tip 14:03 bugle ok too? 14:03 <@Sweet Bodhi> bugle best instrument 14:04 yes but beware soldiers & the watch 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1548 14:05 soldiers are not my biggest worry in gnom :-) 14:07 dammit 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 252817 points, T:28883, killed by Master Kaen 14:07 <@riker> :( 14:07 that was weird 14:07 oh no... :-( 14:07 i wasn't on the staris 14:07 oh well 14:07 <@Sweet Bodhi> rip 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1840 points, T:1765, killed by a giant mimic 14:12 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:28 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:18936 14:31 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:34 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Shan Lai Ching, on T:19118 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:45345 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 235 points, T:593, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 454 points, T:1384, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:53 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 14:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:48925 14:56 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:59 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Pri Dro Nbn Cha), 2823 points, T:4385, taken down by a giant spider 14:59 <@microlance> my baby dragons are massacring minetown 15:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7639 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:75239 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:55595 15:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an orc zombie, on T:8202 15:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:12 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:13 <@microlance> too bad that my dragon army killed the priest so now its ghosts everywhere which they cant hurt 15:14 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:18 There should be signs in minetown. "Be a responsible pet owner, keep your pet on a leash". 15:19 <@riker> ^ if that's not already a random engraving, it should be one 15:20 like the signs when you enter the black market. They could be engraved on the floor near the temple. 15:21 I really dig the Treasury Of Proteus. I'm a serial polypiler so it's just the ticket for my playstyle. 15:22 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 15:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 15:23 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 15:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:13398 15:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:33 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Hem Fem Cha) killed Tilla, on T:6733 15:43 <@Sig> As a human, are blood pots useful at all? 15:43 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:66033 15:43 <@riker> sig: not really no 15:43 <@riker> save them all and mass dilute 15:43 <@riker> (the vlad ones at least, the rest? skip) 15:44 <@riker> technically speaking you can use them to get resistances, but they'll cause vomiting for non-vamps I think, so it's a bit annoying 15:45 <@Sig> I'm burdened already so I'll let them be 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 334 points, T:603, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:48 K2 FYI I got this message in evilhack when smashing a potion of acid against the iron bars in the ice queen branch: 15:48 You smell a peculiar odor... obfree: deleting worn obj (318: 256)--More-- 15:48 Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)--More-- 15:48 hmm weird 15:48 ok thanks 15:48 Saving and reloading fixed this 15:48 bars gone? or still there 15:49 I used the F command 15:49 bars gone :-) 15:49 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:49 ok 15:49 ko 15:49 hi k2o 15:49 <@riker> man iron bars have the weirdest bugs 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:68164 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:68165 15:52 <@Pacra> ow 15:53 <@Pacra> !who 15:53 @Pacra: [hdf-us] Grouchy [evil] telegarn [evil] hothraxxa [evil] Pacra [evil] krm26 [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] hyperion67 [nh370] post163 [nh370] samiam [nh370] alec [un] arnibald [spl] bouquet [spl] Sig [dnh] zoya [xnh] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] elenmirie [evil] microlance [spl] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:54 <@Pacra> @Sig was that a wish-mail? 15:54 Someone likely mailed you while spectating 15:55 If you had a mail daemon show up and lob a scroll at you 15:55 that sounds like a but that has been fixed for ages 15:56 I realize I may have the wrong definition of mail 15:56 <@Sig> Yup ripped a magic lamp in Minetown 15:56 <@Sig> @Pacra 15:56 note: I was talking about the iron bar 15:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (lich), on T:13647 15:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:13648 16:00 I know bhaak 16:00 I just realized that Pacra talking about mail daemons is incredibly unlikely at this point 16:03 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:04 <@Sig> I know that in dnh booze reduces the effects of confusion when you drink a lot of it, but is that actually worth doing or should I just convert all that booze into water? 16:06 <@riker> i'd say it's worth doing 16:06 <@riker> how much? 16:06 <@riker> probably worth the first 20 or so but then you're fine 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] alec (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:79, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:08 <@Sig> I don't know, I've got a good chunk at the stash. Dwarves drop them like crazy. 16:09 <@riker> each dwarf outside the mines has exactly 1 16:09 <@riker> same with those in minetown 16:09 <@riker> have you done soko already? 16:10 <@Sig> Broke: Levitating to avoid water Woke: Levitating to avoid becoming burdened Bespoke: Levitating to avoid having to read about the darts and conical hats everywhere 16:10 <@Sig> Yeah 16:10 <@Sig> Mines, Soko, and Cerb are done. 16:10 <@riker> any BoH? 16:10 <@Sig> Nope, reflection 16:11 <@riker> hm so you can't carry too much of the booze or water regardless 16:11 <@riker> i'd carry 6 and drink them when you get hungry - that should be about 600 nutrition, and it's a reasonable bonus 16:11 <@riker> and leave the rest stashed 16:12 <@Sig> Ok. 16:12 <@riker> up to you though - that really doesn't matter in the long run 16:12 mobileuser that didnt happen to me (acid and iron bars thing) 16:12 <@Sig> Yeah I'm running into a lot of burdening issues. 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2680 points, T:2512, killed by a soldier ant 16:12 Go team a! 16:13 <@riker> at that point i'd wish a bag of holding personally, but traveling light works as well 16:14 <@Sig> My plan right now is to bless one of my magic markers (I've found quite a few for some reason), then write some blessed IDs to figure out what all I have, then bless my smokys and hope for a wish, then figure out what to do next from there. 16:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14921 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:495 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] alec (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 12 points, T:169, killed by a jackal 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Mal Law), 438 points, T:657, killed by a gnome 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for his first artifact, on T:46823 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "The Sceptre of Might", on T:46823 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:75587 16:23 Thanks for checking K2, maybe it was something weird with an older game and a new version... 16:23 possibly 16:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:55870 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:69605 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:466 16:36 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 16:36 <@Pacra> I thought alhoons in dnh were bad 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7735 16:44 yeah they suck 16:44 I forgot all my spells 16:44 genocideable at least 16:46 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:75949 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:75951 16:47 <@riker> pacra: they are? they're similar in evilhack i know 16:47 <@riker> you can't geno them in dnethack though :) 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:76089 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 23040 points, T:8969, killed by an energy vortex 16:53 -!- shadowcat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57 p - a mask of a cockatrice. 16:57 tempting to peck my way through gehennom 16:59 <@riker> !whereis bouquet 16:59 @riker: [hdf-us] bouquet [spl]: (Pir Vam Fem Cha) T:29472 The Dungeons of Doom level: 13 16:59 finally found reflection so I went back to ludios 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:76438 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:76439 17:02 <@Sig> Got a full ID, don't actually have much unfortunately. Probably going to enchant my blue DSM up to +5 and the Lordstick up to +7 with some more marker charges. No wishes from the pots. Not really sure what to do next other than keep going down. 17:04 <@riker> again, lock the doors to the barracks in neu asap (so they can't get awoken and rush at you), and try the neu quest shops? 17:05 <@Sig> Ok, so hunt for the Neutral Quest next, got it. 17:06 <@riker> you're neutral so it should be relatively safe to explore the first bit, until you get to the spire at least 17:06 <@riker> (rilmani should be groovy with you) 17:08 <@Sig> Nothing I love more than named monsters who don't want to kill me. 17:09 <@riker> nah the rilmani are a species (?) but they should all be peaceful to neutral pcs 17:09 <@Sig> Oh, even better. 17:10 <@riker> the centaurs will not, same for the random q that spawn (rothes, etc.) but you should be able to kill them easily 17:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 17:11 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:12 <@Sig> For some reason my magic markers are showing up as a magic marker despite me IDing them as uncursed. Is that intended? I think it happened after they got ID'd cause one of them was marked uncursed before. 17:13 <@riker> probably one of your settings regarding implicit_uncursed? 17:13 <@Sig> I haven't changed that I don't think. 17:13 <@riker> idk what the default is, i turn it off for reasons like that 17:14 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:32147 17:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:16 <@Sig> I can still only enchant DSM to +5 right? I enchanted it up that high just now but it didn't shudder. 17:19 <@riker> yes 17:19 afaik, yes, +4 and above risks vapourising if enchanted further 17:20 <@riker> dnethack does not change that for dsm 17:21 <@Sig> Got it, ty 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:48189 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2349 points, T:5383, killed by a dwarf lord 17:26 <@Sig> Do upgrade kits only resize armor or can they resize weapons too? 17:26 <@microlance> spl is pretty generous with artifacts. first bat from hell in one shop and then serpents tongue in another shop two floors down 17:26 <@riker> sig: only armor sadly 17:28 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:28 <@Sig> RIP. I think I'm just gonna name Claideamh then, I'm getting to the depth where it matters. Was hoping to make the sword small first. 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered Smut, his faithful kitten, on T:908 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 296 points, T:920, killed by a dwarf 17:29 <@riker> sig: why a small sword? 17:29 <@riker> and I mean claideamh is pretty useless, you won't be wielding it much 17:29 <@riker> +7 lordly might is pretty good though and works as an endgame weapon 17:30 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 17:30 <@riker> but yeah, you'll never find a small long sword I think, i don't think any small sized monsters spawn with them 17:30 <@Sig> Oh, wait nevermind, I thought it was slotless warning like Grimtooth 17:30 <@riker> it is 17:30 <@riker> I mean small is also what -20 wt? lol 17:30 <@riker> not a huge amount 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:78412 17:31 <@riker> oh it's not slotless nvm 17:31 <@Sig> Yeah, I was gonna use it as slotless warning against H and E, but that won't work, so I'll just have a random longsword in my stash forever. 17:31 <@riker> lol 17:31 <@riker> lol 17:32 <@riker> donate it to the priests of an unknown god 17:32 <@riker> that's what i do 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:795 17:32 <@Sig> Oh yeah, I'll just name it later and do that. Get my last artifact wish. 17:35 oink 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:37167 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:78530 17:37 <@Sig> New magic vault, this time with a hunting horror. No clue what that is. 17:38 <@Sig> Pokedex makes it sound like I can just dig into the wall, shoot it with wands and be safe, but I'm not sure enough to actually zap the dig. 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:78581 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:78591 17:42 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3148 17:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided class U, on T:32301 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:78638 17:54 if I've completed the quest is it safe to switch alignment? I was hoping to pick up the orb of fate I found in a bones pile, but I'm chaotic. 17:55 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:56 oh, nm, it's neutral 17:56 was thinking of orb of detection 17:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32576 17:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:78675 18:08 Completely revamped Vlad's tower, very nice K2 :-) Now on the second floor. 18:08 :) 18:08 good luck 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:37387 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3315982 points, T:78704, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1587179965.nh.html 18:11 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:11 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) killed Drauglir, on T:34663 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:37411 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:13397 18:12 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 18:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:37434 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 974731 points, T:37435, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1587292945.nh.html 18:15 GG eraserhead97 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:483 18:24 <@riker> sig: no no no no they fly and hurt badly 18:24 <@riker> do not mess with hunting horrors 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1362 points, T:2681, killed by a soldier ant 18:26 <@riker> @Sig do not under any circumstances dig into that vault without a way to kill it quickly 18:26 <@riker> (which is probably wand of death) 18:27 <@riker> they do have 30 mr though so they shoudl be tameable, if you want to go that route 18:41 <@Sig> Don’t have a scroll/book of taming. 18:41 <@Sig> So I’ll just skip it 18:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:22689 18:54 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:24591 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1068 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:513 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2043 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1022 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1022 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:25740 19:12 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a hill orc corpse, on T:3331 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1175 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:50391 19:24 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:26959 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4703 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4792 19:31 back to the grind 19:32 the grind for demonbane, that is 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4915 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Cropper's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:3153 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3300 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3483 19:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 8423 points, T:4317, killed by a blast of frost 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4845 19:47 <@Sig> [dnh] Whole floor of elves and orcs fighting, not showing up as something special on the total dungeon map, what is this 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1138 19:47 <@riker> that looks like a normal floor right there 19:47 <@riker> go down/upstairs? 19:47 <@riker> also do you not have inventory colors? huh 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4999 19:48 <@Sig> Oh, it's that upstair on the left, let me go to it 19:48 <@riker> sig: tons of trees, upstair / downstair is in the middle bottom of the room? 19:48 <@riker> chaos3 branch level 19:48 <@riker> looking at it now, tha'ts it 19:48 <@riker> won't show until you enter the quest itself - there's a portal in the closet at the top 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 638 points, T:1194, killed by a giant mummy 19:48 <@Sig> Cool 19:48 <@riker> the reward is an iron ring that grants MR while carried 19:48 <@riker> does whatever iron rings do 19:48 <@Sig> Oh, it's slotless? 19:49 <@riker> the MR is 19:49 <@riker> the iron ring benefit is not 19:49 <@riker> also grants shock res while worn, but that's not super useful 19:49 <@riker> wait, you've ID'd engagement rings? 19:49 <@riker> do you still have one? 19:49 <@Sig> Yes 19:49 <@riker> carry that sucker in open invent lol 19:49 <@Sig> Oh, I didn't know that does anything, will do. 19:49 <@riker> blocks all seduction attacks 19:49 <@riker> when worn 19:50 <@riker> not when carried, but it's useful to be able to put it on when you see a succubus 19:50 <@Sig> Oops, it's in the stash. I'll go back for it in a bit. I really need MR, should I try to run the quest or dig deeper? 19:50 <@riker> you will die 19:50 <@riker> you can start it now though 19:51 <@riker> do you have a silver weapon? you'll want it for shades 19:51 <@Sig> I've got a saber back at the stash, unenchanted tohugh 19:51 <@riker> that will work 19:51 <@riker> do you have any wands of sleep, btw? if you do + flying might be smart to try the quest soon-ish 19:52 <@Sig> I don't yet. I do have levitation though 19:52 <@riker> you can choose where you go next, it's probably worth checking neu shops before you try chaos3, since you definitely wo'nt be able to finish chaos3 yet 19:53 <@Sig> Alright. 19:53 <@Sig> Also, why am I sometimes warned against orcs and sometimes not 19:53 <@Sig> Oh, is it that I'm warned against Uruk-hai? 19:53 <@riker> grimtooth would do uruk hai yeah 19:53 <@riker> they're part human technically, I think 19:53 <@Sig> Ok, that makes sense 19:53 <@riker> at least they're same race sac for humans 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:6072 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:350 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 83 points, T:358, killed by a small mimic 19:55 <@Sig> Oh no those aren't hobbits 19:55 <@riker> yep 19:55 <@Sig> What are deep ones how scared should I be 19:55 <@riker> i mean 19:55 <@riker> you can inspect them 19:55 <@riker> just stay in the corridor they spawn in groups 19:55 <@riker> the passive adds like d8 hp to all deep ones on the level or something like that 19:56 <@Sig> Ok 19:56 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:56 <@Sig> Was about to complain about "strengthens bretheren on level" but that doesn't sound so bad. 19:56 <@riker> it can level them up 19:56 <@riker> to a deeper one 19:56 <@riker> but that will take more than one small group, and they have to be alive on the level for that (doens't affect off-level ones) 19:57 <@Sig> Right 19:57 <@riker> yeah looks like you can kill them fine, just don't get surrounded 19:57 <@Sig> Yeah these guys are super slow, I'm safe 19:57 <@Sig> I just saw a special h and kinda panicked. Was afraid they were mind flayer bad 19:58 <@microlance> great infernals cant even wear the mitre of holiness 19:58 <@riker> lol 19:58 <@riker> that's not right 19:58 <@microlance> might be its material is random 19:58 <@microlance> and i got silver 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:318 19:59 <@riker> it should be banned from being silver for infernals anyway though? 19:59 <@riker> like it should for game design, idk what the code says 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed joes' ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:6606 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:6102 20:00 <@microlance> i think i was unlucky. my bell became platinum 20:00 <@microlance> which i think is the heaviest 20:00 <@riker> your bell of opening? 20:00 <@riker> or are you just reading bunches of warp material scrolls 20:01 <@microlance> nope 20:01 <@riker> huh 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:918 20:02 <@microlance> the only experience with warping stuff was those disenchanterslikes who does it 20:02 <@microlance> and it didnt seem to change my bat from hell 20:02 <@riker> I don't think it can mess with artis 20:02 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 20:02 ooh, binders can same race sac 20:03 <@microlance> and the mitre should be one 20:03 <@Sig> Is it worth naming Sting/Orcrist for the warning? 20:03 <@riker> porkman: yes lol 20:03 <@riker> sig: yes 20:04 <@riker> orcrist is mostly redundant, and you could theoretically get a large silver version from chaos3 20:04 <@riker> (there's a large silver elven broadsword) 20:04 <@riker> but in practice its' not very useful because the rod is better + you'll want to donate it (and until then, large silver is heavy) 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1582 points, T:1901, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:05 <@microlance> hmm, maybe i got the wrong alignment on my mitre. because i cant invoke it and get damaged when trying as well 20:07 <@riker> that feels like a bug as well lol 20:08 <@microlance> yeah but its probably that its silver, because the messages are the same as when trying to put on silver armor 20:08 <@riker> ah 20:09 <@microlance> but atleast i found a +3 iron version of shield of reflection during the quest 20:09 hmm I calculate that I have only a 1/35 chance per sacrifice of getting an artifact gift 20:10 this is assuming that there aren't any artifacts other than grimtooth and sunsword lying around 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:673 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1263 20:15 <@riker> !whereis aosdict 20:15 @riker: [hdf-us] aosdict [evil]: (Pri Hum Fem Neu) T:27827 The Dungeons of Doom level: 18 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had a small shield entrusted to her by Odin, on T:29284 20:15 NOOOOOO 20:16 <@riker> F 20:16 and of course any sacrifices I make to burn off the prayer timeout don't count 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1732 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:961 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 47 points, T:423, killed by a jackal 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1100 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 416 points, T:1113, killed by a rothe 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 660 points, T:2078, killed by a pony 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1184 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1574 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:29731 20:30 YESSSSSSSSSS 20:31 FINALLY 20:31 <@riker> congrats! 20:31 <@riker> how many turns? 20:32 29731 20:32 <@riker> well, how many of those were sacrificing 20:32 a lot 20:32 <@riker> or trying to get demonbane specifically? 20:32 <@riker> lol 20:33 now I just need a boh 20:34 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:35 <@Pacra> grats aosdict 20:35 <@Pacra> a weapon! 20:35 <@Pacra> !who 20:35 @Pacra: [hdf-us] Pacra [evil] aosdict [evil] telegarn [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] book [nh370] notsogood [nh370] Sig [dnh] karibou [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 20:38 I wonder if I should just zap my polywand at these three unicorn horns and hope 20:39 <@riker> what's the worst that could happen? 20:39 I get nothing useful 20:41 <@Sig> @riker Is this the neutral quest locate you were talking about? I see shopkeeps and soldiers. 20:41 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/702318038166405150/unknown.png 20:41 <@riker> yes 20:41 <@riker> walk along the bottom 20:41 <@riker> there are 2 doors, go through that and unlock the next set to get in 20:41 <@riker> promptly lock both doors on the left side leading the barracks 20:42 <@riker> the doors on the right side barracks are pre-locked but the throne room deep one room is NOT locked, you may want to lock those too (there's a mmf on the throne, just fyi) 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 21316 points, T:14306, quit 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3152 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:71737 20:44 <@Sig> Locked all 4 of those doors, is that enough? 20:44 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/702318859541151774/unknown.png 20:44 <@riker> yeah that'll work 20:44 <@riker> the deep ones have another set of doors but that'll lock them in fine 20:45 <@riker> now you can check the shops (left is wep, right is wand) and then wander around the dark tree areas outside looking for the portal 20:45 <@riker> the portal is somewhere in the trees 20:47 <@Sig> How soon will I be able to hunt that throne down? 20:47 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 20:47 #j em.slashem.me 20:48 <@Sig> There's a sink in this shop. It's not a mimic either. 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:437 20:48 <@riker> sig: whenever you feel like killing a mmf 20:49 <@riker> yeah that sink is always there 20:49 <@riker> sig: if you trust your helmet / put the rod in spear mode and paralyze the mmf then it's probably doable? 20:50 <@riker> oh you don't have to have it in spear mode - but yeah select "kneel" and it will paralyze the dude for d(lvl - his lvl) 20:50 <@riker> actually, that's a bad idea, at lvl 12 tha'ts -1 turns don't do that 20:55 <@Sig> Lol 20:57 <@Sig> Both shops were pretty much a bust, bunch of 150/200s in the wand shop and a bunch of useless projectiles in the other one. Should I go back to the chaos quest? 20:58 <@riker> you can check the other shops 20:58 <@riker> there's one armor, tool, general, potion in the quest itself 20:58 <@Sig> Oh, just found the portal, didn't realize there were other shops to go to. 20:58 <@riker> along with 4 delis, a 5-bee beehive, and a crossaligned temple 21:04 <@Sig> Only cloak in the armor shop is displacement 21:04 <@Sig> (Incindetally it's an ornamental cope) 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first item, on T:28073 21:05 <@Sig> Did give me a polished shield, might wear that and put on life saving over reflection. 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 661 points, T:2136, killed by a giant bat 21:07 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:1999 21:13 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Ancient Brain, on T:39214 21:14 <@Pacra> As you read the scroll, it disappears. Your sea dragon scale mail violently glows silver for a while, then evaporates. 21:14 <@Pacra> oops! 21:14 <@Sig> @riker Magic Lamp in the hardware shop, what's the next wish? 21:14 <@Sig> Oh that sucks 21:14 oof 21:14 gawd, my ac sucks in DNH variants compared to slex 21:14 that sucks 21:14 Had a while this ago in vanilla NH playing a valk, my small shield vaniched after I misread a scroll 21:15 *vanished 21:15 @Pacra :( 21:15 heh 21:15 i exploded an artifact sword at some point by misreading in vanilla 21:15 i did that to vorpal blade in a fairly recent game. thought I had something else wielded 21:15 another game, i misread enchant weapon wielding a +7 grayswandir... and it went to +8 :p 21:15 hah lucky! 21:15 lucky! 21:15 really, artifacts should behave like in slex/dnh 21:15 !lotg porkman 21:15 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, porkman! 21:16 resetting to +0 rather than vanishing 21:16 <@Sig> porkman: Yeah it's weird. I'm like well into the midgame of this dnh run and I've got an AC of 0. 21:16 i mean, i'm at -42 21:16 but my slex guy was at about -90 21:16 then again, things slice through you in slex at the -40 mark or so 21:18 <@Sig> Oh, I don't know about that. -40 is around where I ascended with in vanilla, lol. 21:18 oh, for vanilla it's more than enough 21:19 DNH based variants (before the DNH change to ac) it would be, except there's crap like demogorgon around 21:19 <@riker> sig: do you have MR? 21:19 oof 21:19 <@riker> it's up to you whether you want unheld or ogresmasher 21:19 <@riker> oh i'd also recommend clearing the first bit of neu now 21:20 !tell AntiGulp my pets are still following me into the black market. 21:20 Will do, bouquet! 21:20 <@riker> there shouldn't be many enemies, if you see non-tree things they can have good stuff 21:20 <@microlance> dw:ing a battle axe and a mattock was is pretty cool 21:20 <@riker> @Sig the neu quest is basically just a cavern-style thing, but with trees instead of solid rock 21:21 and lots of rilmani stuff that kicks your ass 21:21 <@riker> he's neutral 21:21 and doubly kicks your ass with silver attacks if you are a vampire 21:21 <@riker> but there can be random inclusions, ranging from a bunch of huts with a random tool + 3 plumach rilmani to a good artifact 21:21 <@riker> (obviously, that's rare to get an artifact, but it's still a possibility) 21:21 <@riker> porkman: that's also only the last bit 21:21 oh, which artifact was it 21:21 <@Sig> I still don't have MR, so Unheld makes more sense to me then Ogresmasher. 21:22 <@riker> there's 3 options + 2 lamer artifacts 21:22 <@riker> sansara mirror (half phys + reflection, mirror blade), staff of 12 mirrors (really good khak), infinity's mirrored arc (double lightsaber) 21:23 oh, those 21:23 dunno if they made it to dnhslex 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:73651 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2952 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5128 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:74002 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:5431 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:74042 21:30 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:74167 21:35 to do the ritual, do i have to bind otiax or will the silver key work? ^_^ 21:37 <@riker> think the key is fine 21:37 <@riker> but it doesn't matter anyway 21:37 <@riker> good luck getting the key :) 21:39 why 21:39 what's so difficult about it that i haven't done before? 21:39 <@riker> you can't get the key? 21:39 <@riker> it doesn't exist? 21:39 huh? 21:39 since when? 21:40 <@riker> you are a binder, correct? 21:40 er, yes 21:40 <@riker> since as long as binder has been a thing, the silver key is converted into the handmirror of cthylla? 21:40 oh, damnit 21:40 does that give eregen at least? 21:40 <@riker> didn't you ascend an inc binder before lol 21:40 <@riker> no it doesn't 21:40 yes, but i forgot 21:40 <@riker> and even if it did, it doesn't help incs at all anyway 21:40 eregen does 21:41 it kind of works like slow digestion 21:41 <@riker> it does not, unless amy changed that 21:41 <@riker> chris thought it did 21:41 <@riker> it does not 21:41 <@riker> you can't regenerate power at all as an inc 21:41 <@riker> and the hunger drain is not in the same place, so it's unaffected from the cap at +0 21:41 well, i remember in some versions of dnh, power loss went a lot slower since getting the silver key 21:41 <@riker> chris thought that was the case, but it never actually had an effect 21:41 hm 21:42 i'd have to wiztest 21:42 <@riker> they're in completely different files I think, attrib.c vs allmain.c, and they haven't been moved since they were added I believe 21:42 but tbh by the time you get to chthulu, there is so much enchanted crap lying around 21:42 <@riker> wiztesting on current devel, there's no effect 21:42 <@riker> and i'm fairly certian it hasn't been touched since 21:42 some phantasm stole the bell of opening and i think levelported 21:42 lol 21:42 let him have it 21:43 <@riker> i wonder if you can repair the bell in dnhslex 21:43 <@riker> it was patched out in dnh but i don't know what version 21:44 you can repair the bell? 21:44 <@riker> astaroth's binding ritual repairs the item used 21:44 can't you just bind otiax or whatshisname? 21:44 <@riker> it used to fix the bell, but that was removed, i think it was oversight 21:44 <@riker> otiax yeah 21:44 <@riker> but it was funny 21:44 <@riker> also last time i did a binder i forgot to bind otiax, like, ever, so I had to break buer so I could invoke 21:45 bind him to the pen 21:45 then invoke it, and you have him for 5 turns? 21:45 <@riker> pen was full 21:45 <@riker> and you can't break the pen spirits early 21:46 if you bind the numina, shopkeepers tell you to go to hell, i presume 21:46 <@riker> yes 21:46 damn it 21:46 <@riker> and even if I could, echnida & enki weren't as easy to unbind as buer (i had a death wand handy) 21:46 i need that tool shop to keep charging my shite 21:46 <@riker> lol 21:46 <@riker> don't charge ur stuff then 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:74939 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:74963 21:48 i will break buer once i manage to eat a ring of regen 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:75373 21:54 <@Pacra> I almost splatted on the way to rodney in a great way 21:54 phantasm killed izchak. Bad phantasm! 21:55 hahaha I've really been hurting for my forgotten spell of healing for a while, fight through a throne room thinking "I wish I had my healing spell", its iron safe contains a healing spellbook 21:57 :) 22:00 <@riker> evilhack gives and takes away 22:02 now if I could only get a boh on the "give" side of that equation... 22:03 heh, getting crowned also blocks shopkeepers 22:04 <@riker> yep 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 5165 points, T:6765, killed by a rope golem 22:05 <@riker> you may be able to shenanigan - make darkness & stand away from them 22:05 <@riker> or like, go invisible or something weird 22:05 but, you can towel yourself 22:05 to block it 22:05 put a towel around head 22:06 the problem is, if i then bind numina 22:06 that'll be 2 spirits they notice 22:06 and then block me forever 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 93 points, T:141, killed by a black pudding 22:07 <@riker> well, unbind numina if you want to charge stuff 22:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:75724 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:75725 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:807 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:826 22:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:75740 22:12 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided master liches, on T:57376 22:13 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3786 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:8475 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1965 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law), 2365 points, T:5013, quit 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12000 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3545 22:27 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3716 22:29 lol, what's wand damage skill 22:29 and why do i have it 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:51960 22:30 <@riker> boosts wand damage 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9142 22:30 <@riker> that should've been very clear 22:30 <@riker> :) 22:30 <@riker> doesn't work like other variants it's just a flat damage modifier I think 22:32 Does that mean wands of magic missile aren't near useless any more? 22:32 well, in slex, wands scale up with your level 22:32 so magic missile wand can do 120, i think most i've had it do was 134 22:32 but that might've been with a bounce 22:32 <@riker> andrio: yes 22:34 <@Pacra> Wow riker 22:34 <@Pacra> I'm getting absolutely rocked by avatar of Lolth 22:34 <@riker> yeah she sucks 22:34 <@riker> run away 22:34 <@Pacra> almost died twice so far 22:34 <@Pacra> there's nothing else to do? 22:34 <@riker> I mean 22:35 <@riker> kill her? 22:35 <@Pacra> can I magic missile her 22:35 <@riker> sure? 22:35 <@Pacra> hmm 22:35 <@riker> if standing on the upstair with a burnt heptagram ward isn't working 22:35 <@riker> then i recommend levelporting past, and using cursed GL on the asc run 22:36 <@riker> ah RIP she managed to cast spiders 22:36 <@riker> yeah levelport away and come back after geno'ing s, if you want to try again 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4518 22:37 <@riker> she shouldn't spam spiders if you geno s 22:38 <@riker> what was that program in disorder @Pacra 22:38 <@riker> for future reference you don't have to save/reload I don't think, most are harmless, but lmk if you get one of those so i can see if it's been fixed already 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 154 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:52838 22:39 <@riker> they shouldn't happen :/ 22:40 <@riker> i'm also 95% sure she resists fire lol 22:40 <@riker> oh she doesn't that's a bug? 22:41 <@riker> ouch, what did you in? 22:41 <@Pacra> @riker so uh, she ate 50 magic missiles at 2x power 22:41 <@Pacra> they did nothing, is she resistant? 22:41 <@riker> not surprised? 22:42 <@riker> may have picked up a cloak of MR 22:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3695980 points, T:88805, killed by the Avatar of Lolth 22:42 <@Pacra> blarg 22:42 <@Pacra> I don't know how I died 22:42 <@riker> ah rip, she spawns with orihalycon gauntlets :( 22:42 <@Pacra> I was at full health 22:42 <@riker> I didn't know that - I always avoid her 22:42 <@Pacra> brutal 22:43 <@Pacra> does she have an instakill? 22:43 <@riker> probably a couple in her spells list 22:43 <@riker> !lastgame Pacra 22:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:58353 22:43 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/dnethack/dumplog/1586456227.dnh.txt 22:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:58354 22:44 <@riker> hm, the last msgs were just melees from her 22:45 <@Pacra> perhaps indeed I wasn't paying attention to HP 22:45 <@Pacra> welp now I know, avoid that one 22:45 <@riker> 2x 2d10 phys + intrinsic stealing shouldn't do that, even counting the seduction attack (which is 6d8 + draining) 22:46 <@Pacra> she must have stripped me at least 4 or 5 times 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5398 22:46 <@Pacra> i just looked up her entry, apparently she has a possible instakill on roll? 22:46 <@riker> oh 22:46 <@riker> yeah, if she stole poison resistance lol 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 362 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:53870 22:48 <@riker> did you intentionally wake her up pacra? 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:31615 22:50 <@Pacra> no i dont know any of the post gehennom dnh content 22:51 <@riker> ouch 22:52 <@Pacra> is the moral "dont play lategame dnh unspoiled"? 22:52 <@riker> meh, the moral is "don't fight purple &" 22:52 <@riker> but yeah in the future I highly recommend asking :P 22:52 <@riker> the princes are all bad, she's the least optional though 22:53 <@Pacra> i dont know the maps either so i just blundered into an adjoining cave 22:54 <@Pacra> i definitely knew i was in trouble once i had 6 ac the next turn 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:55050 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:55051 23:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 11629 points, T:5870, killed by a fire ant 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2541 points, T:6978, killed by an orcish arrow 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of p'hul", on T:58958 23:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Pelias, on T:59022 23:19 <@Pacra> why does krm26 keep wishing for p'hul 23:19 What even is it 23:20 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 23:22 <@Pacra> its a barbarian quest ring in eh 23:22 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 23:23 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:26 he probably wants the sick res 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:450 23:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:29 <@riker> it's also a ring of free action, which isn't awful? 23:29 <@microlance> crazy gnomes death raying their friends to kill me 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) murdered Jake, her faithful little dog, on T:1402 23:34 @riker correct 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1938 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 1350 points, T:1960, killed by a wererat 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:385 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide cornuthaum", on T:59296 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide pair of speed boots", on T:59299 23:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 521 points, T:2194, killed by a falling rock 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by naming Sting, on T:223 23:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+3 blessed Cloak of the Unheld One", on T:17782 23:53 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 19665 points, T:9064, killed by a pyrolisk 23:55 <@Sig> Found a figurine of a red dragon, I can ride that if I get the saddle on it right? 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1080 23:55 <@riker> sig: yes 23:55 <@riker> and if it's tame 23:57 So my streak ends at 3. Oh well. 23:57 <@Sig> Gonna put on my pro-fire ring just in case 23:57 <@riker> make sure you can kill a red dragon if it comes to it