00:00 ...ngl that was almost asking for it 00:06 Fuck those things 00:06 <@Sig> Found a Sokoban amount of food but didn't find anything for my horse. Suddenly very worried for the guy. He became burdened when I rode him despite being a warhorse, does that mean he's starving? 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:14667 00:07 No, that just means you're carrying enough that riding won't unburden 00:08 <@Sig> I'm not burdened though. I've had a warhorse carry me when I was burdened and became unburdened. 00:09 Yes, because riding reduces weight 00:09 It soudns like the weight reduction here just isn't enough to take you out of burdened range 00:09 Barring some oddball variant change, I'm like 95% sure on this 00:10 <@luxidream> it doesn't reduce weight, it increases your carrying capacity 00:10 <@luxidream> horses will eat food rations when starving I think? 00:11 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 00:11 <@Sig> Oh I figured it out. He was carrying a black pudding corpse 00:13 <@Sig> I've seen him eat a gnome corpse before, but I've also seen him just starve to death, so he confuses me. 00:13 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 1779 points, T:3156, slain by a dwarf lord 00:14 man, i hate it when i forget to switch back to my primary weapon after using a pick-axe/mattock. :P 00:14 <@Sig> Is there an easy way to get the magic box down to the first floor of Sokoban? Every time I try to descend the stairs I fall off my horse. 00:14 <@Sig> It's the worst, lol 00:18 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 00:23 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 00:23 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4903 00:24 @Sig: You know you can just dismount before going downstairs, yeah? 00:25 Also horses are herbivores, they only eat people food when super hungry 00:26 <@Sig> I think with the chest it's too heavy. I'm strained even on the warhorse. I know about the herbivore thing, I'm just trying to keep him from starving. I'm all out of vegan options. 00:26 Why are you carrying the chest around though 00:27 Iunno much about evil so no idea what this magic box does 00:28 Umbire_ he's playing dnethack 00:28 Confused him with someone else, then 00:28 :) 00:28 Still dunno enough to know what this box does 00:29 i'm about to eat this entire box of tagalongs. and i dont even care 00:31 quarantine insanity creeping in 00:31 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:55469 00:31 wait, which ones are the tagalongs again? 00:32 * aosdict googles 00:32 never mind 00:38 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:55851 00:39 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1582 points, T:3590, slaughtered by a werewolf 00:39 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4270 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:16903 00:46 <@Sig> Umbire_: Whatever you put in one magic box you can pull out of any magic box. I'm trying to move it down to Sokoban dlvl1 so it'll be a convenient stash on a level with no monsters. 00:46 <@Sig> (Monsters don't spawn on dlvl1 of Sokoban in dnh.) 00:47 Oh 00:47 Well in any case you're probably better off dismounting before hitting the stairs 00:47 So you don't constantly break your legs 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh343] jealkeja (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:6824 00:49 <@Sig> I'll see if that works, I'm afraid I'm just gonna break my legs anyway. 00:50 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 8170 points, T:5445, defeated by a plains centaur 00:54 <@riker> sig: soko 4 should have one so you don't have to lug it too far 00:54 !rng Magicbane | Stormbringer 00:54 Andrio: Stormbringer 00:54 <@riker> also note that harassment from the amulet or illurien will not stop in soko 1 00:54 <@Sig> That's the one I'm lugging, it's just annoying to take down a few stairs 00:54 <@riker> ah 00:54 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:55 <@Sig> Hopefully by the time I have the amulet I won't need my stash much anymore. I tend to get overprepared before I kill Rodney. 00:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2270 points, T:4209, killed by a bolt of cold 00:56 <@riker> rodney is mean and also annoying 00:56 <@riker> but he is never a threat 00:57 <@riker> sig: also ita probably safe to drop most of your stuff, push a chest over it if you're worried 00:57 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 51 points, T:529, sent to the grave by a fox 00:57 <@riker> then try the chest again to see how heavy 00:57 <@Sig> Alright 00:58 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) averted death, on T:9677 00:59 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 9042 points, T:9688, cut down by a giant zombie 01:00 You hit the dwarf! The dwarf zaps a brass wand! You feel less confused now. 01:00 Thanks 01:04 !who 01:04 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] Cropper [nh370] MoldyWater [spl] shadowcat [spl] Sig [dnh] jealkeja [nh343] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh370] drunkmonkey [un] 01:13 Bones town 01:13 Oh god 01:13 'microlance, killed by a death ray' 01:14 -!- misha is now known as werekitten 01:15 Why's there a trap door IN the temple? 01:15 The general store shopkeeper is dead 01:16 The watch are dead too of course. 01:18 * Umbire_ touches the ground 01:19 * Umbire_ sniffs 01:19 Fuckery went down here. 01:19 What else happened? 01:20 <@luxidream> 'microlance, killed by a death ray' 01:20 <@luxidream> !bones reasons 01:20 Yay, the wand of death is uncursed now 01:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:25 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:3548 01:32 <@Sig> Well, now that I have two artifact weapons, reflection, and a warhorse, I think it's time to handle the Gnomish Mines 01:33 !who 01:33 drunkmonkey: [hdf-us] book [nh370] MoldyWater [spl] shadowcat [spl] Sig [dnh] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] drunkmonkey [nh370] Andrio [nh370] 01:41 You find a small mimic posing as a statue. 01:46 can you sacrifice an elf? i'm chaotic if that makes a difference. 01:46 <@Pacra> @Sig did you finish the mines? 01:46 <@Pacra> Shadowcat, are you an elf yourself 01:46 no, i'm an infernal. 01:46 <@Sig> Think so. Chaotics don't get penalties for same-race sac right? Nope, going there now lol. 01:46 <@luxidream> infernals != elves 01:46 <@Pacra> not familiar with splice but you should be able to sac away 01:47 yep. it was okay. 01:53 Hm, there's a black dragon in Mines' End 01:53 Lucky the random amlut happened to be reflection 01:53 It's a chameleon actually. 01:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6819 01:55 Because of course it is 01:55 I kind of hoped it was a real black dragon 01:55 Was always interested in BDSM. 01:55 At least a bit. 01:56 It's not much in vanilla outside of the disint. protection 01:56 It's still a lot better than a dwarvish mythril coat. 01:56 I think evil and a few others did some real nice stuff with the scales 01:57 /scale mail 01:57 Didn't they make it disintegrate you by wearing it? 01:57 Freaking trap loadstone 01:58 I'm assuming maze Mines' End? 01:58 It's the wine cellar actually. 01:58 With level tele gray stones? 01:58 Only the mimic one has a guaranteed loadstone. 01:58 And I already used the fountain. Sad face. 02:00 Ooh, another magic lamp 02:01 This one's also pre-blessed. 02:03 I don't want Orcrist 02:04 I want this rock uncursed. 02:04 when an attribute is 18/x what is meant after the slash? 02:04 Some AD&D weirdness. It's basically a percentage of the way between 18 and 19. But in some respects it counts as between 18 and 24? 02:05 I sort of understand, I've got 18/02 str. so that would be kind of like 18.02 str? 02:06 Yeah. 02:06 cool, thanks 02:06 <@Pacra> yes but also no 02:08 <@Pacra> @ drunkmonkey, there's some weird integer mapping for certain things regarding strength 02:08 It IS between 18 and 19 02:09 Just that 18/** has relatively few differences from 25 (actual max) 02:09 <@Pacra> they're functionally identical 02:09 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Attribute#Strength_in_game_formulas 02:10 avoid if you don't wanna spoil natch 02:10 ok, ill just assume its more than 18 and less than 19 02:10 but basically it'll map like 02:10 18/50 to 21 or w/e 02:10 if it needs an integer 02:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:5010 02:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7877 02:13 -!- APic has quit [*.net *.split] 02:14 Oh boi 02:14 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 02:15 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 02:21 I wish there was a level where you face a god himself. Then you might use the black dragon scale mail 02:21 Demon princes and lords are fairly god level 02:21 but they don't disintegrate you 02:21 Thing is if you want something "actually" god level they can just fry you at will anyway 02:22 p. sure Moloch offs you even with disintegration re 02:24 yeah, you're right 02:25 *res 02:25 more like gg no res 02:26 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 02:30 Heh 02:30 Finally managed to grease my stash chest. 02:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9534 points, T:7681, killed by a leocrotta 02:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7706 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1018 02:59 <@Sig> @riker I think I've got a magic lamp, if 02:59 <@Sig> I get the wish what should it be fore? 03:02 i've hit the quest for the first time ever! 03:02 Nice, shadowcat 03:02 <@luxidream> he's US 03:02 <@luxidream> probably asleep 03:02 Don't sleep-hack 03:03 That sounds dangerous. 03:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:03 <@Sig> Grats Shadowcat 03:06 <@Sig> He showed up as online for me, but it looks like he's not now. I'll ask tomorrow. 03:06 <@luxidream> I haven't tried 03:06 <@luxidream> I've had very few nethack dreams 03:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8949 03:10 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 76318 points, T:16495, dismembered by a rock troll 03:10 damn. *sigh* 03:10 f 03:10 okay, i guess it's time for bed. 03:11 damn trolls. 03:11 Cleaver is a lifesaver as is carnivorous pets for corpse disposal 03:11 <@Sig> Aw, that sucks 03:11 Yeah, Cleaver was great. 03:11 Just couldn't get away from the trolls fast enough to regnerate. 03:11 <@luxidream> rip 03:12 <@luxidream> don't play nethack late 03:12 night. 03:13 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9274 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1616 03:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:9939 03:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:37 !who 03:37 K2: [hdf-us] book [nh370] eraserhead97 [nh370] MoldyWater [spl] Sig [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [spl] | [hdf-au] drunkmonkey [nh370] Andrio [nh370] 03:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 21438 points, T:10412, killed by Juiblex 03:40 FIQhack updated (all servers) 03:40 EvilHack updated (all servers) 03:40 gnite 03:53 SporkHack updated (all servers) 03:53 gnite for real 03:57 Night 04:02 The grid bug falls into a pit! The grid bug is killed! There's some graffiti on the floor here. You read: 'Th s is a pit!' 04:03 r/thanksnethack 04:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:14 !lastgame microlance 04:14 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/splicehack/dumplog/1587282208.splice.html 04:15 <@microlance> left one hell of a bones file there i believe 04:15 <@microlance> dead priest and a silver dragon 04:17 <@Sig> Why did you keep taking the pills? 04:18 <@microlance> because i thought there would be something positive to them 04:18 <@microlance> why fill a medical kit with only poison 04:19 <@Sig> Lol 04:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:19 never played slashem? looks to me like splice medical kits work exactly the same way 04:19 🤔 04:19 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Medical_kit 04:20 i.e. only healers can use them reliably 04:20 <@microlance> alright i was just popping them directly from the bag 04:21 @?mumak 04:21 mumak (q) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical | Alignment: -2 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 04:21 Mumakil are not supposed to be that fast. 04:21 This one almost clocked 12. 04:21 Bad luck most likely 04:22 What, you gonna call the K on 'em fo' speedin'? :B 04:22 No, I just killed it. 04:38 is there a way to change the characters @ symbol color in 3.7? 04:41 wanna change it to a purple @ for hard mode wizard fights? :B 04:42 3.7: now with character skins 04:50 Stormbringer please 04:50 I used a bag of tricks and two scrolls of create acid blobs and still don' thave it. 04:50 All you did was guarantee that it'll be the first gift 04:50 Yeah, but it shouldn't take this long 04:50 Not that it'll be gifted in any particularly expedient manner 04:51 Probably just unlucky/need better corpses for a better chance 04:51 This Minetown? 04:51 It just so happens that there's an altar on the level with the Sokoban stairs. 04:51 Oh, well then 04:52 The lady of the lake wouldn't uncurse my towel either; I had to use a magic trap. 04:52 Both methods sound egh for uncursing 04:52 mm 04:53 At least I now have an uncursed towel though. 04:53 And didn't get set on fire. 04:58 There we go. thanks. 05:00 A pack of winter wolves just killed the shopkeeper for me :o 05:07 Lucky bounces, eh? 05:24 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:36 -!- greenbourne277 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:37 Thanks for the unicorn. 05:37 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:39 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:40 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 05:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 05:53 not sure how I should deal with medusa in evilhack 05:58 I feel the same uncertainty with Medusa amateurhour. First time I had yellow DSM. Second time I got very lucky with a wand of polymorph. :-) 05:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:59 Good ranged attack perhaps, she starts by firing useless arrows instead of moving toward you. 05:59 I only have a few boulders to throw 06:00 really scared of her melee 06:03 -!- greenbourne277 has joined #hardfought 06:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:21 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 06:21 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:23 <@microlance> wishing in spl, is it like vanilla a standard DSM as the first? 06:33 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1441 07:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2245 07:15 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "+3 blessed fixed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:2640 07:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:26 how's evilhack going elenmirie ? 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3869 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:3870 07:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4090 07:37 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:40 scimitar??? 07:44 it's a curvy sword 07:44 ³²/join #nethack 07:47 Yay 07:52 <@microlance> do you not gain protection from donating 400*lvl in spl? 07:52 Apparently I'm a girl now. 07:52 <@microlance> should i just kill the priest and take my money back? 08:02 i pretty much always kill the priest and get my money back eventually (if they are cross aligned) 08:02 although, i usually do it more for the spellbooks 08:02 speaking of which... 08:03 if there's a temple in the dungeon, the minetown priest needs to watch his back lol 08:04 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:47154 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:202 08:07 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 08:08 hi 08:08 Hello porkman, Welcome to #hardfought 08:09 First a useless scimitar and now: "and thus I grant thee the gift of Speed!" 08:09 I have speed already Crom 08:09 do better 08:11 oh they can give intrinsics you already have? 08:12 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 570 points, T:947, killed by a sewer rat, while sleeping 08:14 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 08:16 first time at the castle in evilhack 08:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:545 08:17 moved one step and You hear something rummaging through a chest. 08:18 I hear they can even zap the WoW 08:18 hasn't happened to me yet, but... it's a worry 08:18 I'm just hoping they didn't get it :| 08:19 You hear a wand turning to dust. 08:19 i had them take the wand, zap it and wish up a figurine of archon/apply 08:19 amateurhour: it could be a chest in the barracks, but the likelier answer is you just got hosed 08:19 when I finally got to the wand it was (0:0) 08:20 they won't charge it in evilhack at least 08:20 still SUCKS though 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1080 08:21 especially if you don't know charging 08:21 once i realized they had exhausted the wand i didn't even bother getting it because i didn't know charging (got it later obviously) 08:21 polypile is your friend ;-) 08:21 yeah. i think that's what i did 08:21 I presume that the player is best off with grunthack strats (enter the level polyselfed to xorn and levitating, immediately quaff object detection and make a beeline for the chest)? 08:22 but my first wish is usually spellbook of polymorph 08:22 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 172 points, T:472, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:22 aosdict: yep 08:22 I think it's kinda BS... I know it's "evil" and he got it from grunt, but the castle wand should be guaranteed 08:23 aosdict, when I played convict I used the artifact to phase. That was very satisfying. 08:23 in one of those crystal chests 08:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1374 08:23 yeah I don't know why K2 looked at that highly aggravating part of grunthack and said "this one. this feature is what I want" 08:23 tbh I hate crystal chests 08:23 still unable to open them 08:23 not found knock or wand of opening 08:24 at least the WoW would be safe 08:24 YANI: Nearlooking while standing on a crystal chest will show you the contents of the chest (because it's see through), so you can at least decide if there's anything worthwhile inside it 08:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 767 points, T:1531, killed by a hill orc 08:25 at the moment wand of probing doesn't even work 08:25 weird 08:26 is that ice queen branch guranteed? 08:28 I'd imagine so rebatela 08:28 if for some reason it isn't, it's probably a bug; I think the intention is that it's guaranteed 08:28 want some ideas where to look for it? 08:29 hi 08:29 Hello porkman, Welcome to #hardfought 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:397 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 230 points, T:451, killed by a gnome lord 08:33 they didn't get the wand I think, phew 08:34 I might decide to deliberately levelport into the valley so that I can clear it out before even loading the castle level 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:278 08:36 are there vampire mages in the valley? 08:36 I mean, there could be. 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:323 08:36 wait, you can wish for markers? 08:36 I thought for some reason you couldn't 08:36 yes 08:37 they don't generate randomly 08:37 but you can wish for them 08:37 no roles start with a marker any longer, right? 08:37 afaik 08:37 there might be one in soko, and there's a guaranteed one with the sanctum priest 08:38 lol speaking of 08:38 speaking of... 08:38 I thought it was just those two for the entire game 08:38 no, you can wish 08:39 are you saddened by that, or are you happy? 08:39 feel free to not wish for a marker :^) 08:39 I will not wish for a marker, because I will probably lack the resources to stop the wand getting used up :) 08:40 you'll be able to recharge it at least 08:40 and at worst wrest if that's still a thing 08:42 you can only recharge the castle wand 08:42 is it worth wishing for some material speed helm? I have just identified a regular one 08:42 I only have 3 usable armour slots 08:42 right after I wished for my dragonhide comr I started finding cool random cloaks all over the place 08:42 of course! 08:42 that's how it goes 08:43 or would dhide speed boots with elven dhide helm be better 08:43 so has anyone else tried pudding farming in evilhack (for intrinsics) 08:43 nah, I prefer to get crowned 08:43 I was able to max out my cold and shock resistance by careful use of an iron ring and a dilapidated armory 08:43 probably equally grindy though 08:45 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59274 08:48 Hmm... there appear to be two Mines' End luckstones and a touchstone. 08:49 i've totally given up on a bag of holding. It's going to be crazy if/when i do find one now 08:50 you'll have to wish for one 08:50 no way 08:50 oh sorry 08:50 in vanilla i would have by now 08:50 ahh i see 08:51 i'll carry a box around before i wish for a bag 08:51 In soko I went for the tools and got lucky, BoH 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:1728 08:52 well, you can't really lose with the tools 08:52 Amateurhour, thanks, i fixed most of the misplaced brackets 08:52 unless you already have a bag of holding 08:53 still have a couple errors though 08:53 i got the marker but lost it to lava 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1891 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7500 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2624 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:49381 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:49383 09:05 monk quest has gotta be the worst for loot 09:06 valk maybe? 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3185 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:8231 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:49528 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3411 points, T:3806, killed by a bolt of fire 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8448 09:17 the zombies on the priest quest just slew my faithful dog that I've had since the start of the game 09:17 surprised they made it that far even 09:17 how dare they. NO QUARTER 09:17 I have no undead turning to bring him back either :( 09:18 my teammate in tnnt would always name his starting pets 09:18 so I started doing the same 09:18 but every time I remembered to name them, they would die a few turns later 09:19 bubbles the kitten immediately walked straight into a rock trap 09:19 I want to believe they liked the name :( 09:19 hmm... this was a good wake up call that the priest quest isn't as simple as wading through hordes of zombies and killing them 09:19 since they can now eat my brain 09:19 what's the best defense against that? 09:20 just don't get bitten 4head 09:20 yeah but am priest 09:20 ranged options are limited 09:20 lol 09:20 once you have a unihorn does it really matter? 09:21 uh, yes? amnesia making you forget spells and skills? 09:21 also, I just got bitten and my unihorn failed to do anything four times in a row so... 09:21 is amnesia nerfed for zambos 09:21 What does this mean? spell.c: In function 'spelleffects': 09:21 spell.c:10667:1: error: invalid storage class for function 'dospellmenu' 09:21 dospellmenu(prompt, splaction, spell_no, specialmenutype) 09:22 Aosdict, how does turning undead work in the variant you are playing? 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:26363 09:22 if it works decently, it's a godsend on the priest quest 09:24 good point. I dunno if it's limited at all 09:25 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:370 09:27 huh, mithril boomerang 09:27 it's a ranged weapon I can get skill in 09:32 For priest I always carry an aklys. 09:33 I prefer their technical name 09:33 "roman butt javelin" 09:36 Only now I realise that centaurs have max 20 dext en strength 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:50439 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1111 09:38 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 09:39 why is that a facepalm moment? :P 09:42 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:57185 09:42 because I could have had max 20 dex for a long time now ;-) 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1796 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1895 09:43 Hey I found *another* bag of holding!!! 09:43 nice one! 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1244 points, T:2000, killed by a kobold mummy 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:74 09:45 BoH-less people, don't give up hope. 09:45 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:45 just do what I did, bribe K2 to leave bones with a boh in :^) 09:45 Ah was that the bones in the big room? 09:46 yeah 09:46 lucky you 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:421 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 355 points, T:432, killed by a dwarf 09:47 I think the only thing I'm missing now is ring of free action 09:48 not unimportant in gnom 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:181 09:49 I've geno'd vampire lords and the liches 09:49 oh and black dragons 09:50 no "black rain" endgame for you then 09:50 why 09:51 i like to turn into a vampire lord for astral 09:51 whoops sorry, I meant vampire mage 09:51 yeah, those if they exist 09:51 i'll poly into one of the 09:51 them 09:51 btw, what were the 3 errors you found yesterday? 09:51 vampire mages are bad, but there are worse things 09:51 i think i fixed two 09:51 I thought you were going to ask about the black dragon geno 09:52 rather than the vampire mage lol 09:52 well, once you eat a black dragon and have disi res 09:52 I'm vegan 09:52 you can get rid of the rest 09:52 aha and a giant 09:52 yeah lol 09:53 it was two rogue braces, a line that was missing its semicolon, and a continue that wasn't in a loop IIRC 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 555 points, T:1170, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted little dog 09:54 the slex files are quite difficult to work with though, you've chosen pain :P 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:229 09:56 do tele wands work on astral? 09:56 yes, on others 09:56 not on yourself 09:56 I feel like the evil in evilhack means they don't work 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:517 09:56 so I'm glad to hear they do 09:57 oh, evilhack 09:57 no idea 09:57 oh 09:57 back to fretting 09:57 in all variants i played, they do 09:57 including slex 09:57 I'm pretty sure they don't work in at least one 09:57 oh, i fixed those 09:58 but now this new one has popped up 09:58 not that I'll get that far, I'll probably die much sooner 09:58 invalid storage clas 09:58 class 09:58 invalid storage class is usually when something has been assigned static or extern when it can't/shouldn't be 09:58 tele works on astral 09:58 if I'm recalling correctly 09:58 is there a tool that can tell you the differences between to different versions of the same file, side by side? 09:58 oh thank goodness, I'll continue to stock up on them then 09:59 yes, git can 10:04 whoa, random battle of the priestesses 10:04 she seems to be really a fan of blinding me 10:04 ... and she did NOT have a boh. Arggggh 10:05 boh is too important 10:05 still nice loot though 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:1743 10:07 I think a zombie and vampire bat just fought 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1990 10:09 amateurhour: in variants with the wand balance patch, teleport wands do not work unless you have expert skill in wands, or the wand is blessed and you are skilled. going by memory but i think that's right 10:10 istr breaking them works as usual but it's been a while 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1092 points, T:2296, killed by a soldier ant 10:11 ah right, that makes sense 10:11 unless they've fixed it (word chosen deliberately) it's dangerous to use a wand of death at expert 10:12 you xap something next to you and you get caught in the explosions. this can cost you a couple of levels on astral when you try to off famine or pestilence. (ask me how i know) 10:12 how do you know? :P 10:13 heh 10:13 this applies to wands of fire and cold too. the wand balance patch is seriously flawed 10:13 ask amy 10:15 wand balance patch 10:15 rofl 10:15 oh and of course lightning 10:15 no such thing in slex 10:15 or in pork'em for that matter 10:15 oink 10:16 and i shall rename zorkmids to porkmids 10:18 porkman have you ever played the earthbound/mother series? 10:18 You kill the Keystone Kop! [..] You see here 1312 porkmids. 10:21 lol 10:21 Amateurhour, no 10:22 well, the game actually says gold pieces, though, doesn't it 10:22 oh I thought that's where your username was coming from 10:25 haha no, it's coming from a character i played in a tabletop RPG 10:25 who basically had the head of a pig 10:25 YANI: imp taunting wakes up monsters 10:26 sounds a little like the pigmasks 10:26 so, i haven't changed a line from the original slex commit in the part that's now broken, but it now doesn't work 10:27 haah you mean from the SAW series? 10:27 hah no, still thinking of the mother series 10:27 no, i mean, look at my github avatar, he's cute! 10:27 lol, cute 10:30 <{Demo}1> what algorithm does nethack use for the cavernous map gen? 10:35 a cellular automaton 10:35 it's all in mkmap.c 10:36 <{Demo}1> oh lord 10:37 <{Demo}1> at least that's better than randomizing 50/50 wall/path and then picking the largest contiguous section and repeating until you get one that has enough open spots in it 10:38 it's such a bummer when the traps in the valley aren't untrappable 10:39 and especially so when they're magic traps >:( 10:39 also I just lost the ability to see invisible, thanks magic trap 10:40 the message is wrong though, "You feel a bit more perceptive now" 10:40 no 10:41 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 10:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 10:42 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:54038 10:43 morning 10:43 <{Demo}1> morning k2 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided disenchanters, on T:54066 10:45 K2 I found another possible bug 10:45 quite minor though 10:45 NO 10:45 :P 10:45 hah 10:45 it's just the message from losing see invis via magic trap can be the wrong way around 10:45 if you're a monk I assume 10:45 or something that starts with it as an intrinsic 10:46 ah ok 10:46 i'll look into it 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:54115 10:46 ok brb, helping my kid with her cybersecurity girl scout badge 10:48 hack the cookies 10:48 no wait, download and accept the cookies 10:53 how does one re-acquire see invisible in evilhack? 10:54 I tried doing squats on the magic trap till it broke 10:55 is this alhoon some sort of mind flayer? 10:55 or can i melee 10:55 they're like mindflayer liches 10:56 the commit which introduced them says they don't have as many tentacle attacks 10:56 hey when I saved and reloaded I can see invisible again 10:56 that's whack 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril scale mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:15008 10:57 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 daggers on an altar, on T:4096 10:57 and there's a weredemon panicking repeatedly using wand of digging and not learning the floor is too hard 10:58 it's a little better than my +4 leather armor, but it knocks my spellcasting out cold. 10:58 I thought monsters were supposed to learn after 1 attempt fails 10:58 thanks but no thanks, Odin! 10:58 how about an artifact next time! 10:59 pray really loudly so the sound so he has to respond to the din 10:59 you know what, let's just pretend I didn't have a brain fart mid sentence 11:00 aosdict: I was so confused reading your nethack issue report about steam clouds 11:00 because I thought you were talking about Steam Cloud first 11:00 I was not expecting it to be fixed that fast. 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had a chain mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:15164 11:03 argggghhhhh 11:03 no metal armor odin 11:03 give artifacts 11:05 in evilhack, do zombies ever fail to drop a corpse that will resurrect? 11:06 I just had like 8 kobold zombies summoned in my altar farm and it'd be nice to get rid of them 11:06 f it's taken from grunthack, you might be able to use explosion attacks on them to avoid it 11:07 *if 11:07 that alhoon got me and i forgot all my spells 11:08 rip :( 11:08 I wonder if they're genocidable 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5276 11:08 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:09 you know what, these zombies keep death dropping stuff, so I might as well sit back and whack-a-mole them until they all rot 11:09 ah they're gone 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:5376 11:11 and now magic mapping is too faint to re-read (JUST as i'm getting to gehennom) 11:11 found someone called Charon who's warning me about Cerberus 11:11 guessing it's a greek legends reference 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:5395 11:12 charon and cerberus are deferred features in vanilla 11:12 new things to worry about amateurhour ;-) 11:12 and I'm guessing it means there's a tough fight ahead 11:12 I think evilhack implements them 11:13 no credit is given if you polymorph your quest nemesis 11:13 but I still got that :-) 11:13 weird, a room with 1 door, opposite the door in perfect symmetry is a statue of a nurse 11:14 aha! the statue was hiding a secret door 11:14 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:14 that really sucked... basically added a turn count to all my spellbooks 11:14 also back to expert in martial arts lol 11:15 unreal. i wonder if they are genocideable. they warp to you like liches (duh. I was warned when i asked. my own fault) 11:15 he was quite tough, I had to run away and a kraken grabbed me 11:15 and unless i typo'd, the thing resisted a teleport wand 11:17 Yeah, it's been assigned static, STATIC_OVL boolean 11:17 I'll try geno them in a wee whiley 11:17 what does static do? 11:18 hm, got to go find some sort of wikipedia for C 11:18 i had a geno scroll and tried to genocide vorpal jabberwocks but you CAN'T now of course, so i went for disenchanters. I would just get rid of genocide instead of arbitrarily adding monsters that are obvious candidates 11:19 lol, vorpal jabberwocks are an abomination to begin with. to make them ungenocidable is just pure evil 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:54912 11:23 porkman: I just wish i had known 11:25 that alhoon just basically cost me a wish because i had to rewrite books (haste and mapping are kind of crucial to me right now) 11:25 i don't see much dragonhide in my future lol 11:25 disclaimer, i've never played evilhack 11:25 let's hope they're genocidable then 11:25 i should have been more careful 11:26 how does an alhoon wipe spells? 11:26 but like i said i tried to teleport it and it didn't move 11:26 they're like mind flayers porkman 11:26 i don't know but i forgot every spell 11:26 oh 11:26 get an assault rifle and pepper them with bullets? 11:26 not playing slex 11:27 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:27 no firearms in evilhack? 11:28 no 11:28 bleh 11:28 with the exception of these guns 11:28 * amateurhour points to strong giant arms 11:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a copper hexagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3270 11:31 <@Tone> Can anyone confirm that the player always acts first on a newly generated level in vanilla? I'm not sure where it might be documented or otherwise in the code. 11:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 11:34 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:34 ffs there's an alhoon and it got me 11:34 right, time to try geno 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:626 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Cen Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a trapezoid amulet on an altar, on T:3331 11:38 nice 11:38 expert marts blows 11:38 is there just one kind of alhoon? 11:38 yeah 11:38 yep. welcome to my world lol 11:38 good 11:39 it's taking a while to train back too 11:39 yeah when a mind flayer got me earlier it took a million years to get from master to gmaster 11:39 going to altar camp methinks. this is going to be another loooong game. oh well 11:39 I'm gonna have to grind to train it back up ._. expert marts isn't going to cut it in gehennom probs 11:39 same 11:40 i'm telling ya bro.. spellcasting. monks get basic in every school 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1136 11:40 i know you're a giant, but it IS doable 11:41 gotta get those staffs though (and a HoB, but those are easy to come by) 11:42 (at least basic in every school. skilled in clerical, healing, escape) 11:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:44 michael the peregrinator is down, got a sdsm off him (haven't even seen any dragons yet, not even baby ones) 11:45 see odin THIS is the sort of armor I expect from you 11:45 the only spell I'm bothering with atm is restore ability 11:45 he gave all the good stuff to his favourite adventurers aosdict 11:45 sorry I had to be the one to tell you 11:45 yeah I guess he prefers valkyries to priests 11:46 he, again, did not have a boh 11:46 YANI: Player monsters in EvilHack do not generate with dragon scale mail until you're well past the depth at which dragons start spawning. 11:48 michael also had a nice hat 11:49 i'm at 55k turns and no BoH 11:49 difficult optional branch for boh when? :^) 11:51 I always assumed monks' spellcasting base would be better than tourists for some reason 11:52 like better than arc and tourist 11:52 but it's the same as knight 11:52 that doesn't make sense to me 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:56028 11:57 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 11:57 what do you mean by 'base'? 11:58 the base failure rates 11:58 hang on let me link to the wiki 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a yellow mold, on T:3153 11:58 high level monks can cast everything with robe/hi wisdom 11:58 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Spellcasting#Calculating_spell_success_rate <- this table 11:58 (humans) 11:58 the bonus monks get from robe is different 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3598 points, T:3186, killed by a frost giant 11:59 as in the robe makes up for the slightly worse base failure rate? 12:00 First try. \o/ 12:00 I mean it definitely does, it just's a little odd to me that a nude archaeologist would find it easier than a nude monk 12:00 yeah the robe is beyond clutch 12:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5593 12:00 i'm so careful about polytraps early on because (at least in vanilla) you often won't see another robe until Kaen or killing a priest 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh4] Nneu (Val Dwa Fem Law), 43449 points, T:17005, killed by a guard 12:04 The freeze in shops bug apparently applies to polymorphed pets, as well. K2, you want me to save again? 12:05 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:56295 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 9717 points, T:7304, killed by a flaming sphere 12:11 went to ludios and massacred the soldiers to get back gmaster marts 12:11 nice. yeah i just got it back too 12:13 "nothing personal guys, just practising my martial arts" 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:448 12:13 Bliss56: we probably have enough saves by now 12:14 Thanks, I'll just unfreeze the little devil with my magic whistle. 12:14 huh is there a staircase down to the valley now in evilhack 12:15 or is that going to be a mimic 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:503 12:15 ya there's stairs 12:16 fair enough 12:16 I mean it makes sense 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1054 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1172 12:21 woo cybersecurity badge 12:21 <@riker> congrats? 12:21 heh 12:21 <@Pacra> say what @K2 12:21 just finished that badge with my kid, girl scouts badge 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1353 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1289 12:22 <@Pacra> @elenmirie I regret not genociding alhoons in my last game 12:22 <@Pacra> !lastgame 12:22 she's a brownie, so cybersecurity badge for an 8 year old is things like 'dont click on links you dont know, always have an adult with you when you get online, dont share these types of information' etc 12:22 @Pacra: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/unnethack/dumplog/1587312652.un.txt.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/splicehack/dumplog/1587284582.splice.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/nethack/dumplog/1587287619.nh.html 12:22 <@Pacra> @K2 that's awesome that that badge is a girl scouts badge 12:23 !lastgame Pacra 12:23 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/evilhack/dumplog/1587175050.evil.html 12:23 yeah 21st century merit badges :) 12:23 <@Pacra> oh, cool, !lastgame will take lastgame of anyone on server 12:23 K2 after I lost see invis (with the wrong message) after I saved and reloaded I had it again 12:24 HAX 12:24 it's possible I stood on another trap in the meantime, but just an FYI 12:24 heh ok :) 12:24 I don't think I did stand on one 12:24 i'll add it to the list to have a look at 12:24 but there is another trap 12:24 <@riker> k2: ah, nice. I think I had one of those in cub scouts when I was her age 12:24 @riker so a couple years ago 12:24 <@riker> :) about half my lifespan 12:24 gottem 12:24 * K2 slaps his knee 12:25 when I was in cub scouts I was a little annoyed that girls had started to join 12:25 <@riker> watch out, that might make your arthritis flare up again 12:25 because there was no rule about girls joining cubs 12:25 bag of HOLDING 12:25 but there was a rule against boys joining brownies 12:25 @riker true... true 12:25 sweet 12:25 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 12:25 so I demanded to be let into brownies 12:25 DEMANDED 12:25 and it was so goddamn boring, no wonder the girls all wanted to join cub scouts 12:25 so right now, girls can be in boy scouts 12:25 but not the other way around 12:26 amateurhour yeah it depends on the troop leaders 12:26 i was a troop leader for mini-me's GS troop for a couple year 12:26 *years 12:26 "alright guys, today we're going to be working towards the 'nethack badge'" 12:27 \o/ 12:27 they really should just merge boy/girl scouts together and just call it 'Scouts' 12:27 K2 could I be really cheeky and ask for dragonbane to prevent grey dragons' cancellation passive somehow? :^) 12:27 the girls have more fun when we do outdoor/camping activities than anything else 12:28 amateurhour you can ask anything you want 12:28 <@riker> k2 tell me about it. i have to hear people say that CONSTANTLY (i volunteer at a cub scout summer camp). 12:28 <@riker> "why don't they just merge them already" 12:28 yup 12:29 amateurhour:just be prepared for an answer you dont like :P 12:29 <@riker> what's funnier is the fact that boy scouts officially changed the name to "Scouts BSA" where BSA doesn't stand for anything 12:29 Boy Scouts of America 12:29 <@riker> i don't claim to understand why, but maybe smth like "scouts USA" would be better? :p 12:29 hey K2 can you make dragonbane prevent gray dragons' cancellation passive? 12:29 no 12:29 :'( 12:29 :P 12:29 <@riker> no, it literally doesn't stand for anything canonically now :/ it's just 'bsa' as a bunch of letters 12:29 <@riker> which is silly 12:30 huh 12:30 * K2 was a boy scout 12:30 our scout master was a dick 12:30 <@riker> lol 12:30 <@riker> mine isn't 12:30 <@riker> :) 12:31 i was *this* close to wrapping up eagle scout 12:31 and he quit 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6861 12:31 and no one back filled him 12:31 (he quit after both his sons earned errr I mean got their eagle badge) 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:56931 12:32 <@riker> yeah, I was planning on getting eagle soon but the whole 'rona happened 12:32 oh you still could 12:32 what all do you have left to do 12:32 don't put the magic bane in new bag of holding you finally got 12:33 <@riker> k2: couple badges, project itself. i may get around to it, but i've just been swamped with school + some family stuff so I'm not very inclined to try to salvage my project :) 12:33 no more athame huh? 12:33 yeah the project 12:33 kinda hard to do that when we're all on quarantine 12:33 in the UK we have something called the Duke of Edinburgh award 12:33 where you go on a camping expedition, train a skill, and volunteer for a charity 12:34 I failed the silver award because 12:34 I was in a group where everyone else was a girl 12:34 and boys and girls had to sleep in separate tents 12:34 and it was freezing cold alone in a tent in the middle of the winter 12:34 so the girls let me sleep in their tent 12:34 oh i see where this is going 12:34 somehow that meant I failed and they passed 12:35 <@riker> :( 12:35 K2: [backscroll] They are indeed dropping the Boy Scouts name and going for "Scouting USA", iirc. Though it's not a merge with the Girl Scouts, who are remaining separate. 12:36 hmm 12:36 welp... baby steps I guess 12:36 riker I never heard "scouting bsa" 12:36 because it's bs, ey? :^) 12:37 @riker you ever go to philmont? 12:37 <@riker> nope, my troop went when I was just barely too young to go :/ and it's a cyclic thing 12:37 yeah 12:37 <@riker> we were going to go next year, and I may still go if possible (summer 2021) 12:37 i got to go back in 1985? 86 12:37 it was fun 12:38 @riker the number of scouts I saw who regretted not finishing eagle was a lot. go for it if you can 12:38 <@riker> aosdict: "scouts BSA" is what we are instructed to call it as volunteers working for the local scout council 12:38 first 3 days kicked my ass because I had never hiked for long periods of time with 50_ lbs on my back 12:38 + 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2826 12:38 <@riker> https://www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/ aosdict 12:38 <@riker> k2: yeah that would doit 12:39 but once i got used to it, no problem 12:39 oh to be young again heh 12:39 the 1980s, where no one looked at you funny for toting around a 50 pound pack 12:39 our very last night out before hiking back into base camp, another small troop near us got attacked by a black bear in the middle of the night 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "yumyum", on T:7343 12:40 we rushed one kid back to base camp in the dark (half his scalp had been chewed off) 12:40 he lived 12:40 <@riker> wow, that's got to be terrifying 12:41 <@riker> i've dealt with bears around where I live, but never had any problems like that (only foxes) 12:41 it was. everything we did 'per the manual' to scare the bear away didnt work 12:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10859 12:41 one of the scout masters wound up grabbing a big branch and whacked the bear over the head with it to get it to release the kid it was chewing on 12:42 bear chased him up a tree but that gave us the opportunity to do first aid and get him out of there 12:42 (the kid) 12:42 <@riker> jesus, that's goign to lead the kid to never go camping again 12:42 <@riker> brb, getting some food 12:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:11321 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:57456 12:46 bike ride, back in a bit 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:57595 12:51 of course now it is raining bags of holding 12:51 and i've found 3 magic mapping spellbooks since i wrote it 12:55 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 12:56 rebatela: give me your bags of holding 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:140 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:450 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 287 points, T:476, killed by a hill orc called Aiul-ai of Oggoru 13:04 aosdict: swap chest would make this more interesting 13:05 i keep hesitating to pick things up because i didn't have a bag for so long. I feel spoiled with this thing 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 74 points, T:261, killed by a wand 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:28539 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:58095 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1021 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1116 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1318 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1301 points, T:1509, killed by a soldier ant 13:20 heh, swap chest 13:20 what if there were a way to implement a swap chest in regular versions of the game 13:21 I might wanna do that for pork'em 13:21 i need to learn how to code properly haha 13:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:13584 13:24 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5328 13:24 how does the swapchest work actually 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:66 13:28 as in how does it behave when you use it, or literally in terms of code? 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1821 13:29 both, I've never seen it and I'm looking for the repo 13:29 https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/search?q=swap+chest&type=Commits 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:751 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:818 13:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:14215 13:30 oh thanks 13:31 I don't remember the particulars, as I didn't use it much myself in the tournament, I got the conduct each time 13:31 but you put a few items (up to 3?) and then could take items from it 13:32 and the items in it were shared across all games 13:32 more good stuff you put in, the more stuff you had access to taking 13:32 and the taken item would have the name of player that had put it in 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1219 points, T:1430, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted wolf 13:34 ah. so a bit like guaranteed bones 13:34 yeah, but for a really small amount of loot 13:35 I think you could only put in magical items 13:35 small but special 13:35 so you couldn't just put in a flint or a dagger or something to take out speed boots 13:35 I'm thinking about playing locally for a while 13:36 there were only a few swap chests around, idk all the locations, but one was in mine's end and one in the valley 13:36 oh, why's that? 13:36 to find all my own bones 13:37 I only got as far as the quest portal a couple times 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:177 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 7262 points, T:6112, killed by a giant mimic 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:202 13:38 to fully stack yourself up for an easy ride? :P 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:40128 13:38 nah, just for fun. also 3.7 is getting funky 13:40 NAO probably has more bones around if you're wanting to play 3.6.x 13:41 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7965 13:42 hmm, a soldier with a wand of death and a bag of holding 13:44 oh ffssssss 13:44 there was a spectre on top of the god damn wall I was digging 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 215 points, T:772, killed by a gas spore's explosion 13:44 absolutely mad 13:44 damn that's annoying 13:45 I 'applied' it in that direction, surely that shouldn't count 13:45 angery 13:45 did you see it? 13:45 no, it's black like the walls are 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2735 13:47 if this was vanilla I'd just quit and start a new game 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:30261 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2170 points, T:2746, killed by a chameleon imitating a marilith 13:52 amateurhour put this in your cfg - SYMBOLS=S_ghost:X 13:53 K2 put this in your game - paranoid_confirmation:Pickaxe 13:53 nope 13:54 btw the see invisible thing happened again 13:54 and saving/reloading once again gave me see invisible 13:54 hmm 13:54 so its not saving that stae obviously 13:54 *state 13:54 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8819 13:55 enjoy the workaround while it lasts :P 13:55 I'm guessing it's weird because of starting with it as a permanent intrinsic 13:57 still sad about losing weaponless conduct 13:59 I'm going to continue with the spirit of being weaponless and claim moral superiority :^) 13:59 :) 14:01 !who 14:01 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [evil] rebatela [evil] hothraxxa [evil] aosdict [evil] nabru [nh370] oh6 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] eraserhead97 [nh370] Delraven [un] shadowcat [spl] Nneu [fh] dgoddard [xnh] BLARGO [xnh] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [evil] elenmirie [evil] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:02 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:02 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 14:02 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:05 when did I lose my ring of slow digestion? :| 14:05 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:485 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:735 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:817 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:963 14:10 damn it. i can't find my up staircase. i know it's there somewhere...i got down to this level.... 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Rat King, on T:41030 14:11 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:14 in case you're wondering, there was a second player monster who zapped polymorph 14:14 :( 14:14 oof 14:15 ow 14:16 this vlad's cavern level looks horrendous 14:17 mind your step 14:18 the wiki page says vlad has been buffed, sounds scary 14:18 does a cursed scroll of teleport level teleport? 14:18 drain resistance highly recommended before engaging him 14:18 I can't get drain resistance I don't think 14:18 shadowcat: yes 14:18 I have 3 potions of restore ability I can bless 14:18 ok, that will help 14:19 <@riker> what's your armor situation now? 14:19 there we go. that's the answer to not being able to find my staircase. 14:19 <@riker> is there an oprop helm or something that could give you drain res? 14:19 -29AC, dragonbane gloves, speed helm, dhide waterwalking boots 14:19 hm, playing some dnhslex 14:19 <@riker> ah, giants 14:19 <@riker> didn't realize :) 14:21 regular armor can have drain res oproperty 14:21 <@Pacra> @ amateurhour sounds scary 14:21 <@riker> k2: thoughts on dnh's dragon scale shields? (dsm but shield slot) 14:22 why's everyone suddenly playing evilhack? 14:22 well I've already lost weaponless so what else do I have to lose? yolo time 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2438 points, T:2468, killed by a vampire 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:19461 14:22 @riker dsm shields seems too OP to me 14:23 cool as hell 14:23 but OP 14:23 <@riker> reasonable 14:23 <@riker> porkman: it's been a thing for a while, lol 14:23 <@riker> I think demo said it eloquently - "[8:28 PM] BOT {Demo}: evilhack does a really good job at being brutal while still being liked" 14:24 K2 took my family hostage and won't let them go till I beat a game of evilhack 14:24 hah 14:24 <@Pacra> @K2 am I missing something re: mine end sewer level 14:25 you'll see them soon, tired of feeding them 14:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 160549 points, T:17479, killed by a mumak 14:25 @Pacra lemme look 14:25 oh you're feeding them? well that changes everything 14:25 this is a benefit to my wallet I can never have again 14:25 i still can't get over spell.c:10667:1: error: invalid storage class for function 'dospellmenu' and 3 other errors like it 14:26 i've changed nothing at all from "vanilla" slex in that function 14:26 <@riker> did you add any spells? 14:26 no 14:26 I mean you can 'fix' it by removing the static declaration, but note the quotation marks there 14:26 @Pacra there's a secret on this level 14:26 <@riker> also, pastebin the errors themselves? 14:26 you havent found it yet 14:26 you should figure out why that declaration has suddenly stopped compiling rather than do that 14:27 https://pastebin.com/WMcVdxE9 14:28 <@riker> > spell.c:12293:1: error: expected declaration or statement at end of input 14:28 <@riker> that one sounds like a missing bracket 14:28 <@riker> I think whatever function came before dospellmenu lost a closing }? 14:29 <@riker> and it's erroring because you can't define a function inside another functino like that 14:29 ooh 14:29 -fnested-functions 14:30 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:59607 14:30 <@riker> is that the warning code aos? 14:30 right, let's see 14:30 <@riker> er, warning flag 14:31 no, I'm joking 14:31 <@Pacra> @K2 gotcha 14:31 <@Pacra> thank you for tip : [] 14:31 do you want to be spoiled? 14:33 well there goes another conduct 14:33 can't believe I didn't notice 14:33 lost see invis again 14:34 save/reload didn't fix it :( 14:35 <@Pacra> @K2 no thanks 14:35 ok 14:39 <@Sig> @riker I think I have a blessed magic lamp, if I get the wish what should it be for? 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had a wooden morning star entrusted to her by Odin, on T:18098 14:40 a wooden morning star 14:40 REALLY, Odin 14:40 give me artifacts or I'll start converting people to Loki 14:41 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 56265 points, T:13114, sent to the next life by an ogre 14:42 whatever decided to spawn dozens of malkuth sephirah 14:43 so how do you know if you're aligned enough to convert an altar? is it harder to convert an altar in minetown? i only found one altar in the first 11 levels plus gnomish mines and it was neutral and i was chaotic. 14:43 There's nothing inherent in minetown that makes its altar harder to convert, it's just that if you do so with a priest present they'll beat the crap out of you 14:44 that's one of the reasons i love orctown. no priest. 14:44 orctown is quite nice for me if I'm ready for it 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11303 14:44 I can sometimes get an artifact from killing the orcs and sacrificing them 14:45 that's usually what i do there too. and i got cleaver last time. 14:45 i'm a barbarian so that's my artifact. 14:45 in evilhack is it possible for a bolt of lightning to hit you, "partially reflect" off something, and then destroy wands and rings anyway? 14:45 but i've found i could really use trollsbane 14:46 hey, i started with a dog this time rather than a penguin! 14:48 wow there are some really expensive weapons in this store, probably with properties. unfortunately none of them are blunt 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:167 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish dagger entrusted to her by Kos, on T:12351 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:588 14:52 <@riker> sig I am cooking, but what do you have rn? 14:52 <@riker> rod of lordly might is a good enough wep, atma is better, I'd go for armor or cloak 14:53 <@riker> what chaos quest? 14:53 <@riker> if not chaos2 (water on the branch level) I'd go for dragonhide flying boots if you dont have any 14:54 <@Sig> Amulet of Reflection, Elvish mail, cloak of invis, boots of speed, Atma and Lordly, gauntlets of power, a basic-ass kite shield. I think I've also got flying boots in my stash. 14:54 <@Sig> I haven't gone deeper than the Sokoban level 14:55 <@riker> I'd say check chaos quest first 14:55 <@riker> also, a blessed figurine of a giant eagle works as well but I'd save that for a candle (which is 100% tame, not 80%) 14:55 <@riker> they're good steeds I believe 14:56 <@Sig> I checked my stash, I have the flying boots already. 14:56 <@riker> dunmo about eating at all, but they'll eat meat for sure if anything 14:56 <@riker> and they have a lot of resistances 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1178 14:57 <@Sig> Interesting. Should I go for a steed over a Shurya Deva? 14:58 whoa a dragonhide elven cloak 14:58 <@riker> sig, it depends 14:58 <@riker> if you want to keep riding then do that 14:59 <@riker> I don't like pet management too much so I dont bother regardless, i may not be much help with that 15:00 <@riker> you could also go for dsm as well 15:00 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:01 <@riker> I may also go for a utility arti - helping hand or smth, cant think of any others off the top of my head 15:02 hmm silver morning star from dilapidated armory 15:02 THAT is blunt 15:02 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 15:02 aosdict you're finding some good stuff 15:03 yeah, but I can't carry any of it! 15:03 I have like 10 stashes now 15:04 amateurhour: noooooo :( 15:04 wtf happened, I went from full hp to 0 and missed it 15:04 !lastgame 15:04 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowcat/splicehack/dumplog/1587312375.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1587051621.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/nethack/dumplog/1587287619.nh.html 15:05 took potion out of bag, dead 15:05 No, even fixing those brackets didn't work 15:05 amateurhour: were you on low HP? 15:05 no I was at max health 15:05 looks like he had high rolls on all his hits 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2558 15:06 yikes, he can dish out 134 damage in one turn? 15:06 amateurhour: :( 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:2606 15:06 <@Pacra> 4 hits, 3 of them with life-draining properties, probably rolled extremely well on all of them 15:07 next time I'll nurse dance and wish for something with drain resistance 15:07 :/ 15:07 I hate doing grindy stuff like that though 15:07 altar camping bad, nurse dancing bad 15:08 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3601 15:08 <@Pacra> probably also rolled high on each consecutive drain life portion of the attacks as well 15:08 amateurhour: or boulder fort? 15:08 having drain res is half the battle with vlad, even in vanilla. you have that, you're usually ok 15:08 K2: is there an amulet of drain res 15:08 no, but regular armor can have drain res obj property 15:09 if not, it's probably quite difficult for non-excal-wielders to find some 15:09 hmm so it would be in my interest to read this scroll of magic detection on the level with the shop with unusually expensive weapons then? 15:09 actually in evilhack because of obj properties, its easier for players to find and have drain res, dont have to rely on the 4 artifacts that have it 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2997 15:10 aosdict yes 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Hill's ghost, the former Magician, on T:24982 15:10 magic detection identifies the property right? 15:10 will it work on things in containers 15:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3803 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3086 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 grey dragon scale mail", on T:3091 15:11 in containers? no i dont think so 15:12 bug with magic detection 15:12 it erased my memory of all the objects lying on the floor that aren't magical 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 gauntlets of power", on T:3108 15:12 eh?? 15:12 geez 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 speed boots", on T:3110 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:44424 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1848 15:14 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:14 heh, the shk selling the nice items got zombified. then a soldier came in and finished him off 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a killer bee corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3299 15:17 aosdict: i love when that happens (unless you need the guy for price id) 15:17 especially early game it's nice 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:3450 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:589 15:19 back in a bit 15:21 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:21 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1055 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3814 15:24 Wow and I got Vorpy too. Thank you Crom! 15:26 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:26 aosdict maybe boulder fort would work, but he teles around all sorts of places 15:27 I'll try it if I get the motivation to try again :P 15:27 no need 15:27 to the wizmode-mobile! 15:27 I put a boulder on the stairs and he was teleporting around a certain 4x4 area 15:27 different room from where the stairs were 15:28 so if you boulder fort there it might work 15:28 I'd have to wish for something with drain res probs, only 3 armour slots 15:29 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6947 15:31 Boulder fort appears to work in that he can't warp onto the boulders 15:31 tragic end amateurhour! Still, you are the first to beat the ice queen. 15:31 <@riker> how bad was she amateurhour? 15:31 <@Sig> @riker sorry went to get lunch. I’m not sure I need to keep riding all that badly, I’m already very fast. Might just go for Cloak of the Unheld One, I’m level 7 and it seems too good to pass up. 15:32 <@riker> I woudln't recommend that 15:32 <@riker> since you'll be getting an arti cloak from the quest 15:32 <@riker> have you not done the mines? 15:33 no, i don't think it was the brackets 15:33 <@riker> the mantle of heaven is pretty good if you roll protection or displacement, and it can fill your MR if you get chaos2 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2433 15:34 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:36 <@Sig> Not yet, lol. I found the lamp in Izchak's. Forgot about the Mantle, you're right I should get something else for now. I'll go check what Chaos I got. How many floors below Sokoban is it? 15:36 <@riker> it varies 15:36 <@riker> it's normally around quest depth though 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:165 15:36 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 15:37 <@riker> you don't have to start doing it yet, the level with the portal will be funky & you can easily determine which one you have 15:38 how is it that this speed 14 golden naga is able to run away from me with speed boots 15:38 <@riker> haste self, self-cast? 15:39 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:41 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Pir Vam Nbn Cha), 9967 points, T:7147, dismembered by an ettin mummy, while fainted from lack of food 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1653 points, T:3475, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:45 <@Sig> Uh oh. Is this just a big room equivalent? 15:45 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/701518866638962728/unknown.png 15:45 <@riker> yes 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:436 15:46 isn't that just the big room 15:46 what's this "equivalent" 15:46 <@riker> I think he means alternate layout 15:46 <@Sig> The big room I'm used to looks like an hourglass 15:47 <@riker> there's a bunch 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 99 points, T:562, killed by a small mimic 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6266 15:49 There's multiple big room layouts in vanilla 15:49 Before accounting for any variant changes 15:49 <@Sig> If I have reflection I should be good to deal with this, right? I don't see any spellcasters. 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 963 points, T:2194, killed by a rothe 15:50 <@Pacra> @Sig there's two big rooms in dnh 15:50 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:50 <@Pacra> that looks like the first one 15:50 <@Pacra> doesn't look bad 15:50 <@Pacra> what happened to your speed boots 15:50 <@Sig> If I'm blind does that protect me from Monotons? 15:50 <@Pacra> were they a dilapidated find 15:51 <@Sig> Ye 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 98 points, T:478, killed by Mr. Nenagh; the shopkeeper 15:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:52 <@riker> there's at least 4 big rooms that I can think of pacra, lol 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:547 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:3403 15:54 <@riker> empty room (alt version with funky lighting), the one with closets lining the walls (graveyard alt version as well), oval (alt version with funky circle), squeezed middle (alt version with ice) 15:55 <@riker> I think that's all of them, and they're all just random monsters except for the graveyard version 15:55 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:59644 15:55 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 12381 points, T:7074, killed by a bear 15:56 -!- NAOrsa has joined #hardfought 15:57 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 43 points, T:475, murdered by a goblin 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3448 15:59 amateurhour: any advice on tackling a shambling horror? 16:00 is this one giving you much trouble? 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1581 16:00 I haven't engaged it yet 16:00 never seen one before 16:00 i just attack them 16:00 can they get, like, an instadeath touch 16:00 i did not think so 16:01 You hear someone praising Odin. You hear someone beseeching Odin. You hear someone praising Odin. You hear a low moaning. You hear someone beseeching Odin. 16:02 Odin has some interesting religious services 16:02 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:59669 16:04 What, you never heard Gregorian chant practice before 16:04 heathen 16:05 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Dra Elf Fem Neu), 278 points, T:1032, killed by a fox 16:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:22195 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of walking shoes entrusted to her by Odin, on T:21437 16:07 and i need something ebtter than force bolt, i am just squishign all potions i find 16:07 > a pair of walking shoes 16:08 maybe odin is punishing me for having incubus fun times in his temple 16:09 don't care, got level 14 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2493 16:13 aosdict: i have never met a really nasty shambling horror BUT upon reflection, i think you can get one that does have the touch of death 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2623 16:13 so if you're dead, sorry 16:14 nah I managed to get up to level 13 and that was enough to jump to 14 so now I can do the quest. 16:14 going to leave level 22 for later 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1856 points, T:2636, killed by a rope golem 16:15 the quest home has all these trees, seems like a good place to stock up on eucalyptus... 16:15 ouch! that hurts 16:15 yeah it hurts, but worth it for those leaves 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:177 16:15 you are basically forced to fight demo now? 16:16 yes 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:7759 16:16 YANI: Reduce the nutritional value of eucalyptus to something really small like 1 or 2. It shouldn't be six times as nutritious as a meatball. 16:16 wish i had the priest quest. is that what your playing aosdict? 16:16 rebatela: yep 16:16 monk quest blows for loot 16:16 gotta watch out for those zombies, but I'm learning the true power of #turn 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4172 16:17 don't you have a unihorn? 16:17 hmm I should probably go get the quest before a zombie spawns in the temple and takes out the leader 16:17 hothraxxa: unihorn can fail. eucalyptus won't 16:17 yeah but can you still cast create monster near the portal and eat infinite wraiths like in vanilla? 16:17 i used to get like 2000pw LOL 16:17 never found create monster 16:17 eucalyptus can be rotten and you can pass out 16:17 really? even blessed? 16:17 that sucks 16:18 good to know though 16:18 it happened to me 16:18 free action doesn't help? 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1045 points, T:395, quit 16:18 not for rotten food 16:18 ugh 16:18 i don't think blessing prevents rotten food either 16:19 eyyyy 6 eucalyptus 16:19 make that 7 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4 points, T:56, killed by a kobold zombie, while reading a book 16:19 ok got 15 eucalyptus that's good enough for now 16:19 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 2473 points, T:3172, slaughtered by a soldier ant 16:19 i'm jealous 16:19 anyway, termill takes a while so a unihorn should be adequate 16:19 !who 16:19 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] rebatela [evil] hothraxxa [evil] aosdict [evil] nabru [nh370] every [nh370] eraserhead97 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Cropper [nh370] notsogood [nh370] musicdemon [slex] Delraven [un] MoldyWater [spl] Sig [dnh] karibou [dnh] ripley [nh343] Nneu [fh] BLARGO [xnh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] mobileuser [evil] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:19 not if you're in combat, as I discovered before 16:20 getting ready to fight demogorgon? 16:20 well if your ac lets you take multiple hits in succession, yeah 16:20 bug_sniper: no, just priest quest with brain eating zombies 16:20 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1795234 points, T:59727, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Delraven/unnethack/dumplog/1586204943.un.txt.html 16:20 i used to have all those wraiths in the graveyard follow me out so i could eat em. I like to cast magic missile tho 16:20 (if i didn't know create monster) 16:20 bah! i have taken down demo in my last three ascensions, he has yet to lay a finger on me 16:21 "The succubus smiles at the kobold zombie seductively. The succubus claws the kobold zombie. The kobold zombie is destroyed!" 16:21 oh, I see 16:21 tsundere? 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:969 16:23 hmm what's a revenant 16:23 stronger ghoul? 16:24 or zombie, i'm not sure 16:25 Z anyway 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a titanothere, on T:9083 16:26 Trying to wield axe offhand, evilhack keeps giving messages about "too heavy" and "too unwieldy". Is this just because twoweapon is still unskilled or is axe offhand not a good option? 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:58628 16:29 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:29 I'd wager latter 16:30 GG to Delraven btw 16:30 Looks likely. Shame, expert skill with axe... 16:31 mobileuser read this - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/33ee5e85f5f32696020fccc5b732ef3a4b5f8222 16:31 * hothraxxa stops typing 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:25324 16:31 basically, you need to practise with a low weight weapon 16:32 and bear in mind obj materials affects weight. a silver dagger will weigh slightly more than a normal dager, whereas mithril will be lighter 16:32 a mithril axe is great if you're not an orc 16:32 Ah! Excellent. 16:33 wow. #turn is a lot better than I remember it being 16:33 I now have silver dagger offhand, will keep practising. 16:33 * aosdict just smited a whole graveyard dead in one move 16:33 smite me, oh mighty smiter! 16:33 totally smitten 16:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:28141 16:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPK0MsJ4z9c 16:34 <@Sig> You kill the dryad You see here a dwarf corpse Um? 16:34 hothraxxa: [backscroll] from monst.c it looks like revenant is a souped up ghoul, they don't have a brain eating bite, they have a paralysis touch and weapon attack 16:34 <@Sig> I'm done hallucinating 16:34 the barbarians called. they want their smiting back 16:34 <@Sig> So what does that mean, lol 16:35 ah. thanks aosdict 16:35 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 1891 points, T:2675, taken down by a silver dragon 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:58702 16:35 tell the barbarians to come back later 16:35 what the hell is a silver dragon doing in level 7 of the gnomish mines?! 16:36 bones maybe? 16:36 chameleon probably 16:36 (besides killing me, that is....) 16:36 giving you a risky chance at amazing armour 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1275 points, T:2811, killed by a blue jelly 16:37 <@riker> @Sig nymphs like to grab and carry around corpses 16:37 *sigh* think it's time for a break/ 16:37 <@Sig> @riker Is this sufficiently weird 16:37 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/701531837473751100/unknown.png 16:37 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 16:37 <@Sig> Ah, cute. I guess that's who the orcs were killing earlier. 16:38 yay eucalyptus tree of my own 16:39 <@Sig> I def can't go lower than this floor without MR, that green e took me to 1 hp. 16:39 * aosdict steps down into priest locate level 16:39 Idea if you could really use a magic whistle but still haven't found one: kick lots and lots of trees and bless the stack of leaves. 16:40 * aosdict uses #turn 16:40 * aosdict destroys about 40 things 16:40 Doesn't turn have a prayer timeout? 16:41 <@Sig> I don't think it does. 16:41 it also paralyzes you 16:41 <@Sig> Not in vanilla anyway. 16:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:23729 16:41 yeah i knew that usage of eucalyptus long before i knew about the sickness thing 16:41 I only just thought of it rebatela :-) 16:42 they come unblessed is the problem. but a stack, yeah that would be great 16:42 oh right, undead are immune to fear 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:740 16:43 wiki quote: "#Turn undead is, in fact, a special sort of prayer to your god, not a spell, although it doesn't affect your prayer timeout. " 16:43 Never knew that... 16:43 i thought you meant a cooling down period' 16:44 which it does in a way, since you get paralyzes 16:44 paralysed 16:44 I just assumed: it is a prayer, so there will be a prayer timeout 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:929 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:934 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:956 16:44 <@Pacra> @Sig quinons are no joke if you arent prepared 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 416 points, T:991, killed by a giant rat 16:46 <@Sig> mobileuser: I thought the same thing 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:11231 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 92142 points, T:11266, killed by a shark 16:50 [hdf-us] [slex] RasselK (Ice Elf Fem Cha), 2327 points, T:1785, quit 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 97 points, T:652, killed by a grid bug 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "a blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:86 16:58 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:59 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 17:03 <@Sig> I've done some wikidiving and I still can't figure out what "floor full of es" means for what quest I got. 17:03 <@Sig> Or if they're even related 17:03 no way 17:03 I'm here on the priest quest 17:03 aleax spawns with sunsword 17:03 K2 is there still a penalty for using sunsword? 17:04 pretty sure there is 17:04 when i were a wee priest, my god gave me a bladed artifact, but he hated me for using it 17:04 i think k2 fixed that 17:05 the gift part i mean 17:05 oh. so I can't use sunsword because it wasn't gifted to me? 17:05 I think K2 cranked up the penalty for bladed weapons 17:05 thanks a lot, ODIN 17:05 no you can use it, there's just penalties 17:05 and also cranked up the monk bodyarmour penalty 17:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:05 aren't the penalties like... making your god angry 17:05 and it doesn't matter if it's a gift 17:05 i thought, however, priest no longer got blades as gifts 17:06 the message implies god is angry but not, you know, don't even pray to me angry 17:07 Just hold out for Demonbane as prayer gift. 17:07 Prayer gift? 17:07 I need to pray to get it? 17:07 Sorry sacrifice gift 17:08 Maybe also when crowned not sure 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1840 17:08 * aosdict actually wants to make gifts prayer-based rather than random-sacrifice-based 17:08 I like that Demonbane is a silver mace in evilhack :-) 17:09 !co fi 17:11 demonbane is the first artifact gift for priests 17:11 you can get a lot of shit first 17:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15627 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2270 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:2284 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:25649 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25650 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2311 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:16778 17:17 [hdf-us] [fh] Nneu (Val Dwa Fem Law), 57447 points, T:17836, killed by a black unicorn, while fainted from lack of food 17:18 hothraxxa: and once I learn create monster it'll all be fine 17:21 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:22 took me forever to get my usual spells this game 17:22 lot of praying/polypiling 17:22 wasting marker charges too 17:22 polypile/id and then if it's too faint you can still write it because you know it. create monster isn't much ink 17:23 you'll find it eventually tho 17:23 !lastgame 17:23 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nneu/fiqhack/dumplog/2020-04-19%2021%3A17%3A33%2C%20Nneu-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/nethack/dumplog/1587329364.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/nethack/dumplog/1587287619.nh.html 17:23 !lastgame nabru 17:23 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1587322074.nh.html 17:27 they grow melons in this graveyard apparently 17:27 re commit 1bb8545563a4c2d6356b7f62127f48c9ae80fc86 "Allow the Amulet of Yendor to be offered on the altar in the temple of Moloch's Sanctum level; doing so is fatal" 17:28 This code is present in 3.6.0 but offering the amulet there doesn't do that at all. Does anyone know if that's a bug that got fixed? Does anyone have a more recent version to hand to test in? Might it be a function of testing in wizard mode? 17:31 This stuff does happen (in 3.7-dev, with the only difference being that there's a choir chanting message added) 17:31 lucky smoky potion surprise 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:501 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:932 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 421 points, T:992, killed by a dwarf 17:42 <@Pacra> nice @mobileuser 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7131 17:45 thx Pacra 17:46 wow even an elven long sword is "very unwieldy" offhand 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28201 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:28239 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:100 17:53 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 17:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 17:54 moloch was angry at me converting his altar so he sent me a succubus 17:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] whitedoor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 162 points, T:589, killed by a gecko 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had an etched staff entrusted to her by Odin, on T:23473 17:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:57 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Ana Dwa Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1333 17:58 <@Pacra> @mobileuser i think it might be based on "does your offhand have you-sized weapons? if so, unwieldy" and up 18:00 -!- Chris__ANG is now known as Chris_ANG 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 35 points, T:168, killed by a bolt of lightning 18:03 aosdict: even sunsword is bad for priests. if its slashy or pointy - Badâ„¢ 18:03 so it actually angers your god 18:04 you can lose alignment points, yes 18:04 <@Pacra> !who 18:04 @Pacra: [hdf-us] zor [ndnh] aosdict [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] hyperion67 [nh370] Cropper [nh370] Karnac [nh370] notsogood [nh370] musicdemon [slex] ripley [nh343] Nneu [fh] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:142 18:07 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:268 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:29504 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29506 18:13 <@Sig> @riker Did you see that map I posted earlier? I can't figure out why I got a whole level populated with es but I figure it has to be quest related somehow, right? Does that tell me what my chaotic quest is? 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 speed boots", on T:29642 18:14 <@riker> sig: tha'ts lawful quest 18:14 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 18:14 <@riker> and uh why is your hp 46 at lvl 9 18:14 <@riker> tha'ts some fuckery 18:15 <@Sig> Bro I wish I knew. 18:15 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Ana Dwa Mal Cha), 8119 points, T:3445, quit 18:15 <@riker> did you happen to hit a polymorph trap and get "you feel like a new man"? 18:15 <@riker> that you remember? 18:15 <@Sig> I thought nobles just had bad HP growth 18:15 <@riker> tha'ts definitely funky 18:15 <@Sig> Don't think so, and my stats look the same 18:15 <@riker> hm 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 783 points, T:1679, killed by a newt 18:16 <@riker> hm that's just bad rolls I think 18:16 <@riker> a con 12 noble in wizmode got 60 hp 18:16 <@Sig> Er, they look how I expect them to look. I doubt I can go deeper than the e floor without MR and some more levels in me, so I think I have to make the wish now. 18:16 <@Sig> Ouch 18:16 <@riker> ok, have you used an artifact wish yet? 18:16 <@Sig> Nope 18:16 <@riker> have GoP? 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:29683 18:17 <@riker> ogresmasher is a possiblity, should jump your hp up to around 120 or so 18:17 <@riker> offhand it for 25 str/con 18:17 Pacra yes I am now training with a wooden aklys backhand (I am skilled with club too) 18:17 <@Sig> I don't have a twoweapon skill, can I still offhand stuff? 18:18 Sig, no 18:18 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 142 points, T:469, offed by a small mimic 18:19 <@riker> sig: yes 18:19 <@riker> you cannot two-weapon it 18:19 <@riker> but you can put it in the offhand 18:19 <@riker> ogresmasher does not require being twoweaponed for the bonus 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:10255 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4604 points, T:6140, killed by a fire ant 18:19 wut?? 18:20 <@Sig> I'm also a little confused. 18:20 <@riker> so you have 2 weapon slots 18:20 <@riker> main hand and offhand 18:20 <@riker> when you are two-weaponing, you try to make an attack with BOTH 18:20 but he has no two-weapon skill slot 18:20 <@riker> even if your'e not actively two-weaponing, you can hit 'x' ('X' is #twoweapon, this is 'x') to swap weapons 18:20 <@riker> doesn't matter 18:20 <@riker> he can still have things offhanded 18:21 yes, but you can't hit with the offhand wepaon 18:21 <@riker> yes 18:21 <@riker> that is correct 18:21 <@riker> ogresmasher in dnethack, does not need to be two-weaponed in the offhand slot 18:21 <@riker> you can just keep it offhanded, the bonus 25 str/con is gained regardless 18:21 ah..... thx 18:22 <@riker> you can't smash ogres with it when you're not hitting with it, but you can get 25 str/con regardless 18:22 nice feature! 18:22 <@Sig> So it replaces my shield? 18:22 <@riker> sig: if you wish ogresmasher, you will get 25 str (helpful, should be at least +5 to damage with non-rapier weapons) and 25 con (MASSIVE hp boost) 18:23 <@riker> that being said - it does take an artiwish, so if you want to save the artiwish for later or use it for a different artifact, up to you 18:24 <@riker> wiztesting a con 11 human noble goes from 53 to 116 18:24 <@riker> (which is reasonable, that's double the con so double the hp) 18:25 <@Sig> Hmm. I really need the Con, and I can't think of a third artifact I really want to wish for besides Cloak if Mantle happens to be a mid cloak. Only concern is that I still don't have MR, but getting past the eyes should be easier with 100+ hp 18:25 <@riker> you don't need MR for them, tbh 18:26 <@riker> you need free action to be able to melee them 18:26 <@riker> and remember you can just dig through the floor 18:26 <@Pacra> also sleep res is nice 18:26 <@riker> (part of the reason they're dealing hella damage is probably because you're getting floating eye'd every time you hit them) 18:26 <@riker> ah yeah sleep res for the quinions is helpful 18:27 <@Sig> I have reflection, so their passive attacks are bouncing back. It's the spells that seem to be chunking my health. 18:27 <@riker> ah 18:27 <@Sig> Can I dig with Atma? It can cut through walls, do floors work? 18:28 do zombies ever become less of a harrowing encounter in evilhack? They seem to zombify me even if I have decent AC and a helmet. 18:28 <@ChrisANG> Going deep without MR in dnh is dangerous. 18:28 Any tips for fighting Nalzok in evilhack? 18:28 <@riker> sig: uhhh, try it 18:28 <@riker> I'm not sure 18:28 <@ChrisANG> I don't think so, but I'm also not sure. 18:28 <@riker> ^ 18:28 <@riker> it can't cut through rock, so i'd think it can't do floor 18:28 <@riker> anyway sig: do you have a key? i assume so? 18:29 <@ChrisANG> The floors are typically portrayed as thick, and 'sabers are only supposed to cut through relatively thin things. 18:29 <@riker> if you make it to the neutral quest, it may be worth checking the armor shop on the first level of the neutral quest. 18:29 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29 <@riker> just for a cloak of MR 18:30 <@Sig> I've got a lockpick. I just remembered I can ladder up past the e floor so digging is much safer than I remembered. 18:31 <@riker> ah, you can yep 18:32 <@riker> sig: as soon as you get to the neutral quest level, lock the doors to the barracks 18:32 <@Sig> Got it 18:33 <@Sig> I think I'm going to clear everything above the Sokoban level (Mines, Tomb, Temple) before I make the wish, so I can see if I just find an MR cloak lying around. 18:34 <@ChrisANG> Law plus reflection plus high HP is probably enough to retrieve the cloaks of MR from the tower. 18:34 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/701561375167610930/Screen_Shot_2020-04-19_at_3.33.37_PM.png 18:34 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 18:34 <@riker> chris: i'd be worried about oona 18:35 <@riker> oona is not a pushover really, and she can aggro the tulani before you want to fight them if you're squishy 18:35 <@riker> that being said, probably the best bet if there's no cloak of mr elsewhere? 18:36 <@Sig> Is there any way to see what the original, random type of an object was? I think I picked up an ornamental cloak in one of those armories, that could help me make a decision if it's this invisibility cloak I've been wearing around. 18:36 <@ChrisANG> Use \ to view discoveries. 18:37 <@Sig> Ty, the ornamental cope is in fact invisibility. Knowing that is it better to wish for Unheld? 18:38 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 18:38 <@riker> yeah, probably worth using MR then 18:38 <@riker> i might go for dragonhide cloak of MR rather than unheld 18:38 <@ChrisANG> I'm missing the context here, I think. 18:39 <@riker> chris: human noble, needs MR 18:39 <@ChrisANG> Why not wish Unheld if neutral? 18:39 <@riker> > Amulet of Reflection, Elvish mail, cloak of invis, boots of speed, Atma and Lordly, gauntlets of power, a basic-ass kite shield. I think I've also got flying boots in my stash. @Sig 18:39 <@Sig> I'm playing Noble, need MR but also low on health. Was originally gonna wait to see if Mantle was displacement/MR before wishing for a cloak 18:40 <@ChrisANG> Ah 18:40 <@riker> quoted the thing so chris could see the kit so far sig 18:40 <@Sig> Ty 18:41 <@ChrisANG> Hm 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:24199 18:41 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:42 <@ChrisANG> I dunno, I think both are solid artifact choices. 18:42 <@ChrisANG> One thing, 18:42 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 18:42 <@ChrisANG> If you don't have a pick you should head back up to the mines to retrieve one. 18:42 Ah I see you defeated Nalzok already aosdict :-) 18:42 <@riker> they are helpful 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24210 18:43 <@ChrisANG> I forget what the best ranged option is for Nobles. 18:43 <@ChrisANG> How many HP? 18:44 <@ChrisANG> No Chaos quest yet, either, right? 18:44 <@riker> chris: bow I think 18:44 <@Sig> I think I've got a pick in my stash, I just left it there for weight reasons cause I thought Atma might replace it 46 hp at lvl 9. No Chaos quest yet 18:45 <@Sig> I can get expert in Knife and Spear, only skilled in Bow and Attack magic 18:45 <@ChrisANG> Things I'd wonder about before committing to an artifact MR cloak: 18:45 <@ChrisANG> whether it's Chaos 1, with slotless energy resistances and MR, 18:46 <@ChrisANG> 2) whether a wool MR cloak happens to spawn in law. 18:47 <@ChrisANG> Doubling HP should have about the same survivability effect as getting MR, actually. 18:47 <@ChrisANG> Since MR just halves the direct damage spells. 18:48 <@ChrisANG> On the other hand, it also cuts the duration of confusion and stunning spells. 18:48 <@riker> chris: chaos3 has slotless MR as well 18:48 <@riker> and it's easier to obtain, I think 18:48 <@riker> (doesn't require killing chaos, and you can teleport through the tower / run circles around lungorthin) 18:49 <@ChrisANG> On balance, 18:49 <@ChrisANG> In this case I'd lean Unheld. 18:49 <@ChrisANG> There's a lot of unknowns that can't be safely answered without MR, and Unheld is a very powerful artifact. 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:994 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1079 18:52 <@Sig> I am also not particularly good at Nethack, so getting my bonuses now is probably worth more in the long run than trying to save them for later. It's well within my wheelhouse to die on my way down to the chaos entrance. I can gain attr and level up to improve my health situation a bit later on, since I still have some easy dungeon branches to clear. 18:52 <@riker> have you done mines so far? 18:53 <@Sig> Nope, lol. I made it to minetown, found this lamp, and then ran back up to bless some water. 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1277 18:53 <@riker> hm, probably worth doing unheld and leveling up then 18:54 <@Sig> Would be extremely funny if, after all this, Izchak was just scamming me. 18:54 <@riker> highly unlikely :p 18:54 <@Sig> Oh, while I'm thinking about gain attr, is alchemy the same in dnh? I've heard some variants do it differently. 18:54 <@riker> alchemy is, you can also use gem alchemy though 18:55 <@riker> combine 1 gem + 1 potion of acid -> make a potion based on the appearance of the potion / what gem you used 18:55 <@riker> i.e. a ruby potion is a ruby, etc. 18:55 <@Sig> Interesting. 18:55 <@riker> that's a little bit more direct, and sometimes it can be easier 18:55 <@riker> both work 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1478 18:57 <@Sig> blessed fixed +2 Cloak of the Unheld One is what I want to wish for, right? Sorry for being so paranoid but I'm not used to all of dnh's armor properties yet. 18:57 <@riker> yes 18:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Cloak of the Unheld One", on T:8666 19:00 <@Sig> Do lambs have a special interaction with sacrifice? Only asking cause I found one on my altar floor and that seems like a vaguely flavorful thing to do. 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) had a war hammer named Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:12445 19:02 <@riker> no but they should sig 19:06 <@Sig> YANI: Sacrificing a lamb guarantees you a gift. Or something. 19:08 <@riker> it should definitely count for a lot 19:12 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 6059 points, T:5973, inhumed by a brown mold warrior 19:14 <@microlance> gehennom is a painful experience with no MR, no pick axe and no magic mapping scrolls 19:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 11152 points, T:9561, killed by a winged gargoyle 19:16 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:16 <@riker> why are you doing gehennom with no MR? 19:16 <@riker> that seems like a bad idea 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:33984 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33995 19:22 lmftfy: *nethack* is a painful experience with no MR... 19:22 !lastgame bouquet 19:22 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/splicehack/dumplog/1587306278.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1576989832.nh.html 19:25 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 3124 points, T:804, killed by a monster (elf mummy) 19:27 <@microlance> i kinda fucked up with the wand of wishing, i wished for a marker before i identified it. and i thought i knew scroll of charging. i didnt. but im soldiering on hoping on finding either a gray dragon or a scroll of charging 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:18604 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:37962 19:33 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Pal Alc Mal Cha), 507 points, T:508, killed by a sucking tentacle attack 19:39 <@microlance> my uncharged wand 😦 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 997 points, T:1869, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:42 <@Pacra> @microlance no pick axe, what? 19:42 <@microlance> i dropped it somewhere and forgot to pick it up before i went down 19:43 <@microlance> probably outside one of the stores where i ended up killing the shopkeeper anyways, because i didnt have any mummys cloaks on me 19:44 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Psi Met Fem Cha), 50 points, T:142, killed by a monster (drains rat) 19:45 <@Sig> > The energy blade burns handholds into the side of the pit! Can this weapon just do everything? 19:49 <@ChrisANG> It can do a lot 🙂 19:50 <@ChrisANG> And you don't even get all the crazy stuff that comes with the fighting form skills 😉 19:50 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:25035 19:51 <@riker> soresu OP 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1856 19:51 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 19:51 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mys Met Fem Cha), 96 points, T:52, killed by a monster (the King in Yellow) 19:52 wow, polypiling spellbooks really worked out there 19:52 In vanilla, soldiers on Castle have been lifting the wishing chest off of ?oSM - is this expected new behavior or a bug? 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:41177 19:53 got pretty much the exact spells I wanted: create monster, light, magic missile and knock 19:53 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 3512 points, T:5098, killed by a gel, while frozen by a potion 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:682 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:714 19:55 <@microlance> oooh, a magic marker, pick axe and a second amulet of life saving in orcus town. things are looking up again. 19:56 YANI / nice patch idea: when a container is polymorphed, its contents spill out (and are not polymorphed) 19:57 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Psy Met Fem Cha), 7306 points, T:77, killed by a monster (rothe) 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2303 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:2411 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:39203 20:03 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Med Met Fem Cha), 15 points, T:209, killed by a monster (ant mummy) 20:03 <@Sig> > q - a silver stone. What is this? According to beholder it's not the luckstone 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof +2 dragonhide cloak of protection", on T:39205 20:03 I think it's something you can sling at enemies for silver damage? 20:04 <@Sig> I found the Arkenstone, can I pick it up without getting blasted to hell? 20:05 <@riker> yes and yes 20:05 <@riker> it's useless other than sling ammo or for anas (who can turn rocks into bullets, silver stones into silver bullets) 20:06 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Dra Dro Fem Neu), 2392 points, T:5793, cut down by a soldier ant 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Hum Mal Law), 561 points, T:3309, killed by a gas spore's explosion 20:08 <@Sig> Ok, slotless conflict. Picked up two gray stones I found in the wall (after kicking them) but it still doesn't look like it's the luckstone 20:08 <@Pacra> @eraserhead97 that sounds like a bug 20:09 -!- honu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:09 @Pacra thx for sanity-check - I'll submit PR 20:09 <@riker> arkenstone is great 20:10 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 20:10 <@riker> it's not worth a wish most of the time, but it has the dubious honor (along with shield of ygg and callandor) of having a pretty likely chance to spawn normally 20:10 <@riker> around a 20% I think, depends on what mine's end 20:11 <@Sig> In my case, Gnome King's Cellar 20:13 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Met Fem Cha), 0 points, T:3, killed by a dart 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:420 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2077 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:83, killed by a fox 20:19 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Met Fem Cha), 121 points, T:52, killed by a monster (navi) 20:19 <@Sig> Yeah I've lost the luckstone somehow 20:20 <@riker> it's not in the corner spot? 20:20 <@riker> in the rock? 20:20 <@riker> did you dig out the corner spot? 20:21 <@ChrisANG> ...and were there enemies around? 20:21 <@ChrisANG> I forget if they pick up luckstones as sling ammo now. 20:21 <@Sig> Which corner spot? The gem-cave? I found two gray stones in there but I'm pretty sure they're flint. 20:21 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/701588323260694638/unknown.png 20:21 <@Sig> I've checked all the item piles, and I chugged object detection. 20:21 <@riker> one of them should be a luckstone 20:21 <@riker> lol 20:21 <@riker> the bottom rigth corner of that gem cave is always luckstone 20:22 <@riker> so you ended up with 2 luckstones if they're both the same kind, congrats, they don't stack luck bonuses 20:22 <@Sig> Wonderful. I guess Beholder doesn't tell you in dnh? 20:22 <@riker> nope 20:22 <@Sig> Ah, well then I'm out of here. 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4359 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4359 20:27 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 2214 points, T:1392, killed by an owlbear 20:27 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Red Fem Cha), 123 points, T:1597, died of starvation 20:28 <@Sig> Oh, @riker @ChrisANG Atma can dig downwards, I just tried it. 20:28 <@ChrisANG> Oh, cool 😄 20:28 <@riker> neat 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4495 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of reflection", on T:21045 20:32 place your bets! "The monkey steals a tripe ration from the mountain nymph!"..."The mountain nymph steals a tripe ration from the monkey!" 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4780 20:33 Monkey won 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1121 20:38 -!- murphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:39 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 20:39 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Red Fem Cha), 1028 points, T:1552, killed by a monster (hill orc) 20:40 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Met Fem Cha), 0 points, T:2, killed by winds 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:40384 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40385 20:44 <@Sig> > killed by winds That's a new one 20:45 <@Sig> Is there anyway to generate acid potions? 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7456 20:48 -!- AnitVirus has joined #hardfought 20:49 <@riker> nope 20:49 <@riker> the law quest shks can have some though 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:22395 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:22399 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:22411 20:55 <@Sig> Should I do the temple now? Lvl 10, quaffed a blessed gain attr, so I'm up to 50 hp 20:55 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:57 !lastgame 20:57 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tkirkby/slex/dumplog/1587343207.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/nethack/dumplog/1587272057.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/nethack/dumplog/1587287619.nh.html 20:57 <@microlance> i should not aggro orcus when running around in xorn form, while not wearing anything 20:58 Oh yeah. 20:58 <@Sig> Oof 20:59 <@Sig> That's why I don't mess around with polyself, I'm guaranteed to forget that some stuff isn't safe anymore. 21:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:03 -!- Kontroller has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:03 <@riker> sig: do you have telepahty + blindfold? 21:03 <@riker> go in there and see if the priests die 21:03 <@riker> just wait on the upstair 21:03 <@riker> the hezrou cloud normally kills them 21:04 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Met Fem Cha), 164 points, T:11, killed by a cowardly attack on her breasts 21:06 <@Sig> The peaceful one appears to have died but the other 3 are close to the middle of the screen now and seems to be dead 21:07 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Met Fem Cha), 36 points, T:73, killed by bleedout 21:07 <@riker> sig: hm, tha'ts not ideal 21:07 <@riker> you'll have to come back later 21:07 <@Sig> Sure. Tomb it is then. 21:08 <@Sig> At least I've already got an aligned altar 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3008 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3021 21:09 Moloch priests really really really need to be immune to poison. 21:09 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Met Fem Cha), 16 points, T:3, killed by a scroll of genocide 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:12500 21:11 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:23586 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:23586 21:12 you'd think they'd have resistance after all those meals at the Moloch seminary school cafeteria. 21:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2088 points, T:3211, killed by a gnome lord 21:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3594 points, T:7140, killed by an Elvenking, while sleeping 21:16 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Met Fem Cha), 467 points, T:280, killed by a monster (small turret) 21:20 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 21:21 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 15 points, T:34, killed by a cursed throne 21:23 Is it possible to wish for items with egotypes (similar to object properties) in Slash'Em Extended? I asked in the slashem IRC, but it's fairly dead now 21:23 <@luxidream> LarienTelrunya: 21:24 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Nob Sed Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9714 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed every's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:14012 21:27 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 290 points, T:163, killed by a monster (black harpy) 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Arc Dwa Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:14541 21:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8801 21:32 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:34 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 232 points, T:225, killed by a monster (metal) 21:35 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 37 points, T:38, killed by a monster (jackal) 21:36 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 24 points, T:11, killed by a little dart 21:37 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 4 points, T:7, zapped herself with a spell 21:39 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 29 points, T:37, killed by a monster (novice light wall) 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2593 21:40 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 21:43 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Met Fem Cha), 209 points, T:137, killed by an aklys 21:43 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 0 points, T:2, zapped herself with a spell 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:309 21:46 actually used a grappling hook successfully for the first time ever to get a ring out of a sokoban hole. 21:47 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 312 points, T:1198, eliminated by a little dog 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:788 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 580 points, T:877, burned by a tower of flame 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:219 21:54 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12243 22:04 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:10 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werebear, on T:3491 22:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3491 22:12 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 6625 points, T:3494, cut down by a bear 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:41613 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1609 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1933 points, T:2019, killed by a fire ant 22:29 Go team a! 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:42228 22:33 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 3674 points, T:3111, mowed down by a winter wolf 22:36 <@Sig> What's the command for dropping N items from a stack? Using numpad. 22:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:14875 22:38 You just drop as normal: open that menu, then select the number of items you want to drop 22:38 then the letter 22:39 like say, "d 9 d" for dropping nine daggers 22:41 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 4694 points, T:448, killed by a bullet 22:42 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Hea Ang Mal Law), 2709 points, T:4925, sent to the next life by a desert jinn 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:538 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6284 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:759 22:51 <@Sig> That worked, ty 22:52 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Met Fem Cha), 408 points, T:252, killed by a monster (orc zombie) 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:29967 22:53 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Met Fem Cha), 8 points, T:22, killed by being impaled on a stalactite 22:54 Same logic works for most other commands that interact with inventory 22:54 esp. throwing/firing 22:54 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:30010 23:03 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a troll, on T:3521 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:30286 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:25102 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25104 23:06 -!- AnitVirus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 50 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30475 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 50 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30660 23:12 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 9975 points, T:4339, inhumed by a baobhan-sith 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31349 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31350 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:31482 23:24 !who 23:24 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [evil] telegarn [evil] krm26 [evil] eraserhead97 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] notsogood [nh370] Cropper [nh370] bouquet [spl] Sig [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 23:30 * Andrio attacks you by surprise! 23:32 * Umbire turns to flee. 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8254 23:34 Minor nitpick, but why do some of Beholder's server/variant tags reset colours using ^C^O while others used simply ^C? It's uncovered a bug in my client. 23:34 Just use a less buggy client 4Head 23:34 (I honestly couldn't tell you) 23:34 Mm 23:35 Mine actually has the color end after the next bracket 23:35 So you have the evilhack red bleed into the first bracket of 3.7. 23:35 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32652 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32658 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:32686 23:39 Just use a less buggy client Kappa 23:39 Keepo 23:39 Or terminal emulator 23:40 (i've seen that with some iOS terminal emulators) 23:40 But yeah, the why is something I've no knowledge of 23:40 And as stated, minor nitpick 23:40 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Gae Buidhe", on T:14421 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 7362 points, T:8771, killed by a human mummy 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:32819 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:32819 23:42 update of 370-hdf happening tonight. new edit level 23:44 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14647 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:33259 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1093 23:52 edit level? 23:52 17 23:52 3.7.0-17 23:52 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Alt Met Fem Cha), 135 points, T:90, killed by a monster (Daemon) 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:53115 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:34493 23:59 i guess if i'm going to wish up some dragonhide i should do it pre-demogorgon?