00:00 I'm a cactus! I'm crazy! 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 465 points, T:2601, killed by a bat 00:08 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 13210 points, T:8608, killed by a sonic beam, while moving through the air 00:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 2309 points, T:3076, cut down by a bugbear, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) had an apron entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:7788 00:12 [hdf-us] [spl] pagano (Pri Hum Nbn Neu), 158008 points, T:31572, choked on a lump of royal jelly 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:7920 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law), 311 points, T:2195, killed by a pony 00:16 Not crazy enough, huh? 00:18 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 146 points, T:959, exterminated by a small mimic 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:500 00:23 <@microlance> šŸ˜¦ 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:31161 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:8293 00:28 <@microlance> the quest boss died above water, am i fucked? 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2217 00:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:4557 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:2294 00:29 hi @Pacra 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:2356 00:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a human mummy, on T:4835 00:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became permanently corrupted into a human mummy, on T:4835 00:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5634 points, T:4836, killed by an ettin mummy, while stuck in human mummy form 00:35 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3165 00:35 all done @Pacra, thanks 00:35 <@Pacra> done @ K2 00:36 <@Pacra> np! 00:36 can go back in anytime 00:36 <@Pacra> @microlance earth scrolls? 00:36 EvilHack updated (all servers) 00:36 ^ several bug fixes 00:36 <@microlance> dont got any can get some if i do castle 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3257 00:36 <@Pacra> what about the sokoban ones 00:36 <@Pacra> what about the sokoban ones 00:36 <@microlance> picked those up already 00:37 <@microlance> i exploded my bag of holding right before as well 00:38 <@Pacra> oh :[ 00:38 <@microlance> so i can read scroll of earth where he died adn the items will be there? 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 5844 points, T:4092, killed by Izchak; the shopkeeper 00:39 alright i can go to bed. gnite all o/ 00:40 <@microlance> in that case the game is still winnable as i can go finish sokoban and hope for a new bag, and i didnt really lose anything to important to the explosion 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:31607 00:43 The items are retrievable 00:43 Just underwater 00:43 I think if you freeze its tile and the squares around it you can dig it up possibly 01:00 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4586 01:03 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4868 01:09 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 14322 points, T:5327, inhumed by a storm giant called Vizer Dophomor 01:10 hmm...splice hack is pretty interesting. but i think it's time to call it a night. 01:11 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:34776 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:3471 01:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 gauntlets of power", on T:35214 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:35217 01:38 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5706 02:37 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:11 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16 Just had a strange glitch where pressing . wasn't updating the status line, but was showlng level sounds. 03:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:7766 03:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 8684 points, T:8113, killed by a bolt of cold 04:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 04:15 <@microlance> PSA: Knights with 18 wis with no metal armor will only have a 1% chance to cast magic mapping 04:17 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha) averted death, on T:171 04:19 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:24 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Met Fem Cha), 294 points, T:330, killed by a cowardly attack on her breasts 04:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:38 Yummy life force 04:39 Stormbringer is blessed, too, which is nice. 04:42 So 04:42 A leprechaun jumped onto a polymorph trap and now I have green dragon scales. 04:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 04:54 -!- probablymoony is now known as noomy 04:54 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:54 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 04:54 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:55 The black blade draws the life from Budereyri! You kill Budereyri! 05:08 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 05:10 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:10 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:17 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:30 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:39 alright 'fess up, which one of you caused dragonhide to get nerfed in evillhack? 05:40 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Mil Gig Fem Neu), 56605 points, T:16830, killed by a monster (desert girl) 05:40 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 05:40 It was a hell of a ride 05:50 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:51 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:57 You've been through the dungeon on a pegasus with no name. 06:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:07 <@microlance> how are you supposed to deal with pestilence effectively? 06:09 be able to cure yourself and like with the other riders, whack it with paralysis if you can't kill it. and keep moving of course. 06:11 unless you didn't mean Pestilence the Rider :-) 06:13 good morning amateurhour, why do you say dragonhide got nerfed in evilhack? 06:14 I haven't noticed any nerfs yet? 06:15 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3cb6b5d857be94baf2ab534ead28f894703e9de6 06:16 Ah two points AC less. 06:16 yeah not a huge deal, just angery face 06:16 Agreed, not a very big deal 06:17 kinda blows for giant monks but what can you do 06:17 https://i.imgflip.com/2r1alc.jpg 06:17 At least the monsters get less benifit too. 06:39 do you play nethack on mobile? 06:48 I used to, iNetHack2 06:48 Which has the default playername Mobile User ;-) 06:51 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:55 nice 07:00 !lastgame musicdemon 07:00 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/musicdemon/slex/dumplog/1586913707.slex.txt 07:04 What happened here? 07:09 Excalibur is still blessed. 07:24 Oh no elenmirie :-( 07:25 :( 07:26 there's some new stuff around Vlad's place in evil 07:26 including a bottomless pit 07:26 I've heard it's really nasty 07:26 almost instadeath 07:26 I was just trying to hit a bat 07:26 almost? 07:27 I think at one point the second you entered the floor without flying/levi you died 07:27 that's what happened 07:27 but I vaguely recall that being changed to b- 07:27 oh 07:27 I should have thought that through a bit more 07:27 I did have a ring of levi 07:28 oh well, that's nethack for you 07:29 I've not ever gotten that far to see it 07:29 yes, there's a small island of floor, and then void, with bats flying around 07:30 my brain parsed it as solid rock, despite the bats 07:30 *sigh* 07:30 feels bad :( 07:31 we are like guinea pigs for k2's evil ideas 07:32 we're rats in his evil maze 07:32 giant rats even 07:32 and he gave all rats except for us the strength to lift boulders 07:32 :( 07:32 ha! 07:32 hehe 07:37 evilhack top score list has some issues, some links not working and my "splash of acid" death appears 10 times?! 07:39 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:45 why is a shopkeeper in evilhack whispering something 07:46 hmm I guess it's a message for repairing shop damage 07:56 we already know the shopkeepers are crooked, he's probably contacting his cronies to come and get you 07:57 hey it's not MY fault the wall was damaged, it's the rock mole's 08:06 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 3727 points, T:5010, killed by a psionic bolt 08:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:12 a bag of holding makes such a huge difference 08:13 holdingless conduct when? :^) 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:794 08:15 I've got the "found every type of bag except holding" blues 08:16 just be happy with the knowledge that when you fight player monster you have less chance of boh now 08:17 wouldn't mind there being some difficult optional branch with guaranteed holding in 08:17 :^) 08:19 player monsters' chance of a boh decreases with the amount of bags you have? 08:20 i just mean K2 lowered their chances of having boh 08:20 though don't let him see you say that or he'll pull the trigger and make it so :^) 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 279 points, T:1656, killed by an iron ball collision 08:20 what I described doesn't really make any sense so that would be surprising 08:21 There were too many BoHs and now there are not enough :-( 08:22 Agree with the idea of a guaranteed BoH as prize in an optional branch. 08:23 I don't know how I feel about the idea of guaranteeing a boh, particularly early in the game 08:27 man, getting a mines level where the river is oriented vertically and therefore large areas of the level are dry is such a breath of fresh air 08:28 it's like... man, I wish most of the mines filler levels weren't sucky like that 08:30 wait until you get below minetown, you'll be fine. no more rivers 08:31 Still lots of water below minetown? 08:31 i was teasing him 08:31 hothraxxa: there's plenty of water below minetown. and sewage 08:32 Ah tease ;-) 08:32 really?never been there myself 08:32 lol 08:32 lies 08:32 well. this one time 08:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:503 08:33 lol hothraxxa your mines bones triggered a few amusing bugs 08:34 so i heard 08:35 The kings of the gnomish and dwarvish forces have made an alliance against me 08:35 there's a gnome lady with a wand down there 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 386 points, T:603, killed by a wererat 08:35 I managed to kill her (I'm still in the game that had your bones) 08:35 found K2's bones as well after that 08:36 "The rabid rat looks diseased." 08:36 you don't say 08:36 ah. well if you're (un)lucky, you'll get the double bones minetown with me and krm26 08:37 all I ask for is that I don't get the orc temple yet again, because I'm bored with it 08:37 i had orctown in my last ascension. it was great! 08:37 oh orc temple. nm 08:37 not orctown. the orc temple mines end 08:38 the new one i dislike is the sewer 08:38 the sewer wasn't designed for being able to typo into water. that one's on K2 08:38 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 08:38 the only evilhack game I've had the added mines end variants I fatfingered and walked into lava 08:38 ah, catacombs. good, I'm a spellcaster 08:38 so I still don't know who or what is in the final room 08:39 or was I confused/stunned and walked into lava, can't remember 08:40 that would be the orc temple level 08:40 there's no lava in the sewers 08:40 yeah 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:8 08:40 what's the sewers one like? 08:40 sucky 08:41 the rat king is nasty if you're at the usual xl for mine's end 08:41 you don't need to fight him, however 08:42 Oh wait, I thought you were talking about the Gnomish Sewer 08:42 there's a room that i've never manged to get into because you need teleport control, which i never have at that point 08:42 you're talking about "The Sewers of Waterdeep" 08:43 i suppose. i don't know the name 08:43 the Gnomish Sewer is the one in xnethack 08:43 the problem is that level has almost nothing for you 08:43 yeah jeez wow 08:44 i assume there's goodies in the unreachable room, but otherwise pretty much all you get is the luckstone 08:44 the "goodies" are: a diamond, a dilithium crystal, and one each of / ! = ? + 08:45 hrm 08:45 apart from that, there's the luckstone, a loadstone, and six random gems 08:45 not worth it, really 08:45 that's stingier than the mimic of the mines 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:774 08:45 and practically all of the monsters are animals so no wands or potions or scrolls from them getting generated 08:46 yeah wow if I ever get that mines' end I'm just going to turn around 08:46 how are you meant to get into the unreachable room? 08:47 <{Demo}> phasing? 08:47 teleport control 08:47 despite referring to it as the unreachable room of course :P 08:47 yeah phasing would work 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1080 08:48 there are two teleport traps and you can use them and hope 08:48 i did that for about 50 attempts one game, then i realized that of i got in how the fuck would i get out 08:49 might be a trap in the room, i don't know 08:49 there's a vampire queen in the catacombs 08:49 difficulty 18. my xl is 8 and my dlvl is 13 08:49 it's any random V afaik 08:50 which I think maybe could include vampire mages? 08:50 sounds broken to me, but evil is in the name of the game so 08:50 random V, which because of mkclass can power through into out-of-difficulty monsters 08:51 I'd point K2 at the fix for this, but undoubtedly he considers it intended behavior 08:51 bring back the minotaur I say 08:51 :^) 08:52 minesflayer, minesotaur... 08:52 minnesota 08:52 he 08:52 the minotaur was never intended in the first place 08:53 it was just a consequence of generating a maze. the code said "you want a maze? great! have a minotaur or two with no thought for where in the dungeon this is" 08:54 bring back the minotaur but have it be an elder minotaur 09:00 huh? why is there a statue of an elven soldier in the catacombs, carrying the initial inventory of an elven soldier? 09:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2136 09:00 telepathy verifies there's no cockatrice present 09:00 does he have a cockatrice corpse in invent 09:00 no 09:00 and this is a non bones level 09:00 did he previously but it rotted? 09:00 maybe he killed a cockatrice and fell into a pit 09:00 (do they do that?) 09:01 I think the statue was death-dropped by a dwarf lord? 09:01 are you sure it's non-bones? 09:01 last time that happened to me it was a bones level after. elenmirie had been petrified 09:02 after all 09:02 even in bones, a statue of an elven soldier isn't from a player 09:02 unless K2 changed something, the catacombs is not bones eligible 09:03 i know it's not, but conflict and a cockatrice can make one 09:04 then you fall in a pit while wielding the c and walla 09:04 should have said you can make one, but that works too 09:05 walla? 09:05 yesh 09:05 voila 09:05 walla 09:05 never seen that before? 09:05 what a noob 09:05 no I understood what you meant, I just wasn't sure if you didn't actually know it was "voila" 09:06 Unlikely scenario: elven soldier meets a zombie, gets zombified, runs into beholder, gets petrified. 09:08 or more likely, could run into a cockatrice that gets killed by another zombie. "You hear some noises" 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4621 points, T:2938, killed by a gnome, while dressing up 09:13 do things attack cockatrices? 09:14 a spear??? really? 09:15 mobileuser i refreshed the evilhack scoreboard 09:15 Thx K2! 09:15 not sure why duplicates pile up, i have to refresh all of them periodically 09:16 K2 do zombies and cockatrices attack eachother? 09:16 yes 09:17 the grudge is: zombies will attack anything living, and anything living will attack a zombie 09:17 Good to know, trying to figure out a little statue mysterie 09:18 yup I read all the backscroll before chatting this morning 09:18 nice 09:19 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20 -!- {Demo}1 has joined #hardfought 09:20 i find it interesting that some of you *coughcoughaosdicthothraxxacough* if presented with a challenge that requires you to be a bit resourceful and have to use your wits, just up and say 'oh well i'm skipping that' 09:20 ^ in reference to the sewers at mines' end 09:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:20 the godies that can be had on that level are worth it, but oh well 09:20 *goodies 09:21 are they? 09:21 evilhack isnt for the squeamish 09:21 oh yeah, there's a decent amount of varied loot that can be had if one is willing to work for it 09:22 two valuable gems and random /!=?+ ? 09:23 the only other mines end level that guarantees a lot of good loot is the catacombs with the vampires 09:23 should I up the amount? is that too paltry? :) 09:23 maybe sprinkle some bitcoin in there 09:24 I mean that's if you have a stethoscope 09:24 no no... 09:24 one sec 09:24 am I just reading the des wrong 09:25 no you're not 09:25 i needed to refresh my memory before i comment anymore 09:26 so those items are guaranteed in the safe 09:26 the two chests will also have something in them (random) 09:26 maybe i should purposely stock the crystal chest too 09:28 so if you have a stethoscope and wand of opening/knock and controlled teleport/polymorph, maybe then you could get some decent loot 09:28 :^) 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1078 09:29 but it's random so it could be scroll of light, wand of light, potion of sickness, dull spellbook of light 09:29 could be 09:29 there's a tele trap that if luck smiles down upon you and you dont have tele control, you can get in that room 09:30 and there's another tele trap inside that room so you can get out 09:32 heh i should guarantee a BoH in the crystal chest 09:32 yeah this all sounds like it might be great if you come in with the right stuff, but otherwise you're just going to fight a lot of toxic monsters for potentially little reward 09:33 and "the right stuff" appears to be either phasing or teleport control 09:33 i understand 09:34 what's all this about a guaranteed boh? even with the recent nerf you have a way better chance of getting one in evilhack than most other variants 09:34 true 09:34 i'm just voicing ideas 09:34 not rue 09:34 no? 09:34 * true 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:197 09:35 sorry you said variants 09:35 elucidate 09:35 community feedback time - what would be worth the ffort to get into the hidden room at sewers end? 09:35 *effort 09:35 I was thinking of vanilla, 50% chance in sokoban 09:35 mobileuser: but player monsters often generate with them 09:35 realistic and balanced items 09:36 mobileuser: also 50% chance in evilhack soko 09:36 and being able to phase into that room is an oversight on my part FYI 09:36 There are three doors with lots of different stuff? 09:36 not that many players would have that capability at this stage in the game anyways 09:36 k2: the problem is that by the time you can reliably enter that room, you're way past needing anything in there 09:36 you want there to be exactly one solution? that's not very nethacky 09:36 100% chance in unnethack's sokoban 09:36 K2: you should program in portals to other variants into evilhack 09:37 bhaak \o/ 09:37 50% chance of slex 09:37 hothraxxa am I missing something with evilhack sokoban? 09:37 that is truly evil 09:37 i don't know, are you? there's a 50% chance of a boh if you choose the tool room 09:38 hmm 09:38 how am I supposed to know what the tool room is? :-) 09:38 obj detection mobileuser 09:38 yeah. if you pick your door without using od, then good luck 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1250 points, T:2283, killed by a gas spore's explosion, while helpless 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:569 09:39 oh, object detection doesn't just say "sokoban prize" then, good! 09:39 no it does. but you know which room is the tool room 09:39 it's like "sokoban prize tool" and "sokoban prize armour" 09:39 ah 09:39 and sokoban prize amulet 09:40 -!- murphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:40 I will try this once I can take on the archlich shapechanger that is currently blocking my path 09:40 thx! 09:41 welp... i can do this at least. I can sweeten the pot some at sewers end 09:41 there's usually a nymph or two in soko so you can get od 09:41 and i think asodict is right, only having one solution to the puzzle isnt very 'nethacky' 09:41 oh I have loads of od :-) 09:41 so phasing can still be an option 09:42 you can also go upstairs and dig 09:42 adding one more tele trap outside would cut down on time spent on attempts to get it 09:43 hothraxxa hah right 09:43 no worse than the rogue quest 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1300 points, T:1028, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 09:43 see that was my intent from the get go with this level 09:43 i think i even mention that in the commit notes 09:43 rogue quest lite 09:44 rogue quest allows phasing, so that is consistent 09:44 yeah 09:45 I once did that when the nemesis refused to wake up, no matter how many cursed invis potions I quaffed 09:45 this one time, i polyed into a xorn to get into the rogue quest 09:46 but i had to take off my armour and cloak, and when i got in there i got paralyzed by one of the nagas. game over 09:46 ok i know what i'm going to do with sewers end 09:47 flush it? 09:47 *rimshot* 09:50 heh 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1993 09:52 is master kaen weak to wand of death in evilhack? 09:53 can't remember 09:53 think so 09:53 sometimes he has MR 09:54 instead of his robe? 09:55 Pretty sure he has MR from the Eyes of the Overworld, in vanilla at least. 09:57 I always wait until the very last to fight master kaen. the Eyes are only useful on the ascension run against archons and lightning. 09:57 he's not wearing them 09:58 mobileuser the EotO are a lot better in evilhack vs vanilla 09:58 they don't protect against medusa though, so you still have to take them off at some point 09:58 ok! need to read the wiki... 09:59 Andrio he doesn't wear the eyes anymore so he doesn't get MR 09:59 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/355900699790d8555665a6e8c9965d609e5c3cb4 09:59 ah, right 10:00 is there a good way to search commits? 10:01 git log --grep $regex 10:01 git log -S $regex 10:02 right, so need to fetch them locally first 10:02 was hoping for a web github search facility 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3170 10:03 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 10:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] pagano (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1517 points, T:998, killed by a wand 10:04 thoughts? - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9c1bfc9aa73ea0f8d755315300b449b6fa1b4929 10:04 mobileuser you can search a github repo via web 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:668 10:05 oh yeah the github search bar works fine, sorry thought you meant locally 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:728 10:06 I see, I need to RTFM 10:06 lots of search option 10:06 *s 10:07 one shortcoming - if a repo is forked, you cant search it at all 10:07 via web 10:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1059 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:3956 10:14 no comments on the sewers end changes? :) 10:14 * K2 slips in a beholder 10:16 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56375 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:12534 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1319 points, T:2154, killed by a gnome 10:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2053 10:22 K2 - I like it :) I like the fruit idiom in your commit, as well :P 10:22 thanks :) 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5191 10:26 You catch more flies with slime mold than vinegar. 10:29 lol just notice the only chest you don't need a special tool to unlock is trapped 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrices), on T:1248 10:30 what a kick in the nads it'd be to get shocked or have your scrolls burnt 10:30 :D 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1335 10:32 ... I should make that flies message a rumor 10:32 maybe "with royal jelly than vinegar" 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a long sword on an altar, on T:6046 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1824 10:37 K2 did you add extra level teleporters to the catacombs, randomly generated 10:37 I've found 3 in random locations now 10:38 no 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3003 points, T:3567, killed by krm26's ghost, while being terrified of a ghost 10:38 redundant 10:38 well. that's the second game in a row where i found krm26 bones and then got killed 10:38 same bones? 10:38 nope 10:39 does krm26 hate you? 10:39 nah. i love krm26 bones 10:39 except those two 10:40 Well I hope you're happy, K2, I've been teleported up so many levels enough times to untame my lava demon 10:40 * K2 is happy 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 7818 points, T:6576, killed by an orc-captain 10:41 I have a magic lamp, if I survive getting the eyes I'll use it for a wish 10:41 but what should I wish for? 10:41 giant monk 10:41 world peace 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5791 10:42 last time dhide water walking boots were recommended to me 10:42 though dhide is slightly nerfed now, so maybe speed boots? 10:42 helm of speed is a thing 10:42 so ww boots arent a bad choice, esp when you get to gehennom 10:43 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 10:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 10:44 I still don't have reflection, so maybe dragonbane? 10:45 that too 10:45 be prepared for a chance the owner shows up 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1480 points, T:2434, killed by a blue jelly 10:47 its owner would be a player monster, right? 10:51 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:53 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:53 yes 10:54 <@Suzune Takada> every variants I played have different flavor 10:54 <@Suzune Takada> slem/unh/dnh/spl/evil/slex 10:55 is zombie farming a thing in evilhack? 10:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:57 @Suzune Takada that's good 10:58 Vanilla is vanilla-flavored :) 10:58 how did dragonhide get nerfed? 10:58 2 less AC 10:58 (i have some wishing to do) 10:59 oh ok tx 11:00 <@Suzune Takada> for example: slem is an ordinary combination pizza, slex is a combination pizza but many extraordinary foods used 11:00 it still provides more ac than any other material. it needed a bit of a balance tweak 11:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 11:01 "Fixed bug where players had enough AC to ascend with" 11:02 <@Suzune Takada> I heard there is dragonhide cloak of magic resistance in object material patched variants 11:02 <@Suzune Takada> but of course I didn't see actually 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4175 11:05 are we doing a "describe the variants in terms of pizza" 11:05 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Dwa Nbn Cha), 32 points, T:193, dismembered by a fox 11:06 which one has pineapple on? (unholy abomination) 11:07 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:07 fiqhack is a pizza with just the right amount of toppings, prepared in a futuristic oven by robots, and it has the perfect crust consistency, cheese doesn't slide off 11:08 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Wer Nbn Cha), 77 points, T:210, eliminated by a sewer rat 11:08 are you in love with FIQ 11:08 I like pineapple pizza :( 11:08 this Titan Medusa level is ruining my game 11:08 xnethack is a normal cheese pizza, except they've fixed the sauce tasting bland and added basil and oregano on top for you 11:08 wish i could charm the damn thing. It surrounded me with dragons and now there are mmf and such 11:09 no genociding titans right? 11:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4227 11:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4233 11:10 if you wear silver gauntlets, do you get extra silver damage when punching silver-hating monsters? 11:12 I want a pizza tonno with fries :D 11:12 (actually ate one yesterday) 11:12 mobileuser yes 11:13 amateurhour, yes dragonhide CoMR is a thing 11:13 wasn't me that said it, it was Suzune Takada :) 11:13 and mobileuser, zombie farming *might* be a thing if for the drops but its nothing like old pudding farming 11:13 amateurhour oh, sorry 11:14 Oh nice K2, I found some silver gauntlets. A monk would love those. 11:14 @Suzune Takada dragonhide CoMR is a thing in some variants 11:14 I wish I could wrap a pair of dragonhide cloaks of magic resistance around my giant arms 11:14 mobileuser on one of my grunthack asc as a monk, i was rockin silver GoP 11:14 but alas my intelligence is too low to come up with such a thing 11:15 I can imagine K2! :-) 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:16271 11:16 Had a small army of kobold zombies from a bag of tricks, but the corpses are finally decaying, so no more death drops... 11:18 heh 11:20 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:26 who is in love with me? 11:26 oh 11:26 ok 11:27 I said nice things about fiqhack if it were a pizza. I'm not in love with ya 11:27 is that an oh of disappointment? 11:27 ahh I see 11:27 amateurhour: more like an "oh I see" 11:28 I'm looking forward to trying fiqhack during junethack if it's in 11:28 especially the knights changes you had mentioned during tnnt 11:28 why wouldn't it be 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 454 points, T:1958, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 11:28 idk, not sure how variants are chosen 11:28 it's not like hardfought will stop hosting it 11:28 variants are chosen by the inexorable will of bhaak 11:29 looking at last year's junethack site I have no idea how anything is scored as well 11:29 it's quite confusing 11:29 but I don't think a variant has ever been dropped from the tournament? 11:29 that would be really weird 11:32 -!- pagano has joined #hardfought 11:33 aosdict: nethack4 was "dropped" the last week of one junethack by virtue of its only server crashing for that week 11:34 I think that prompted ais523 to refactor the network protocol somewhat 11:34 that's not what I mean by dropped 11:34 I know, hence "dropped" :P 11:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:38 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:46 -!- pagano has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:51 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:52 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 11:55 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a rabid rat corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:6904 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had a copper war hammer entrusted to her by Odin, on T:6904 11:59 uh... thanks but no thanks 12:00 He was trying to give you Mjollnir and slipped 12:01 since K2 didn't buff war hammers but rather just added a heavy war hammer, the damage of this thing is crap 12:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:03 K2 sounds like an asshole 12:03 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 12:04 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 12:04 how dare he not buff an existing vanilla weapon 12:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 12:05 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Client Quit] 12:05 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 12:13 if you lose a skill from amnesia, can you get it back by using it? 12:14 Yes. 12:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5625 12:14 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 12:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] pagano (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3116 12:18 wow, I blow up all the oracle's statues with force bolt and for my efforts I get... a blessed spellbook of force bolt 12:20 appropriate 12:20 rngesus was very impressed with how well you did that and is ensuring you never forget that spell 12:20 amateurhour: oh but I already did 12:20 the one spell I lost to zombie brain-eating was force bolt 12:21 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 12:24 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4473 12:27 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire giant, on T:4718 12:35 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:37 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 8439 points, T:5444, petrified by a cockatrice egg 12:44 what's a good name for a pet penguin? 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had a knife entrusted to her by Kos, on T:495 12:45 shadowcat: Tuxie, of course :D 12:46 i've never had a pet penguin before. i'm playing slicehack. 12:47 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Cav Eth Fem Neu), 520 points, T:1472, killed by a kitten 12:47 <{Demo}1> bleh, no color hp wtf 12:47 yeah but surely you played Super Mario 64? ;) 12:49 master kaen isn't waking up 12:49 already set up my boulder fort 12:49 tooting on my bugle 12:50 what other things can I do to be noisy and obnoxious? 12:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Cav Eth Fem Neu), 423 points, T:447, killed by an arrow 12:51 other than be my normal giantous self? 12:52 kick the air? 12:52 I'm in a boulder fort 12:52 does kicking up work? 12:52 (lol) 12:52 do boulders go flying if you kick them 12:52 not sure, I haven't tried that before 12:52 I'll go upstairs and see 12:52 ouch! 12:53 it didn't move it 12:53 it also didn't wake him when I tried 12:54 what if I throw a potion in his direction? 12:54 dunno 12:54 can't actually hit him but could hit something next to him 12:54 if I could hit him from here I'd have fired a death ray already 13:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a pit fiend, on T:4452 13:02 oh HECK yeah that was the right time to strategically use a scroll of identify 13:02 part way through the soko zoo 13:02 identify my unknown ring to be regeneration 13:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Cav Eth Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1893 13:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:08 blaaaaaah 13:08 the fan on my desktop NUC is starting to slowly fail 13:08 I reallllly wanna go fanless 13:09 <{Demo}1> go ARM then 13:09 nerp 13:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Cav Eth Fem Neu), 2910 points, T:2590, killed by a crow 13:09 and i need to do a review of the apps I use, I dont think i can break away from windows just yet 13:09 get a monster of a machine and remote into it 13:10 heh 13:11 i dont have a need for anything that requires a dedicated graphics card. the NUC i've had for years has been great 13:11 wooo amateurhour \o/ 13:11 okay he didn't wake up throwing potions near him 13:12 so I just moved one square and zapped death at him 13:12 L 13:13 okay now I have the eyes I can use this magic lamp for something 13:14 my current equipment: mith dwarven helm, leather gloves, mith boots 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:18855 13:15 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 13:15 oooink 13:15 sssnort 13:16 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 13:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6471 13:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] pagano (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) was given Magicbane, on T:7097 13:19 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Mon Eth Fem Neu), 1681 points, T:878, killed by a rabid rat 13:20 nice, he brought me an amulet of flying as well 13:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6769 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:4513 13:22 is black dragons a reasonable genocide in evilhack or was that an emergency geno? 13:23 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56784 13:23 it's reasonable for giant monks I would say 13:24 but I might be alone in that opinion 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:9691 13:24 because there's no armour in the way to prevent death by disintegration 13:24 ugh, magic marker again, I really wanted the boh 13:24 and I'm trying to do this vegan 13:25 cue someone going "aaaaaa don't you know how rare those are" 13:25 aaaaaaaaaosdict, markers are rly rare!!! 13:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:25 <@Tone> Magic markers aren't very useful to most roles early on 13:26 I picked the tool because I already have speed boots and didn't want to duplicate a helm of speed, and I have an amulet of unchanging I'm okay with 13:26 maybe it would have been a better choice to go amulet though since I lack MR and reflection 13:26 I nearly always go for the amulet, it's either reflection or MR 13:26 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Mon Eth Fem Neu), 1106 points, T:523, killed by a gas spore's explosion 13:26 <{Demo}1> alright im done 13:26 either of which are great 13:26 ripperino 13:27 <@Tone> Yeah guaranteed MR or reflection sounds quite good 13:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:28 well if I don't die due to not having MR and reflection, I'm sure I'll appreciate the marker later on 13:29 <@Pacra> @K2 is the sewers end live? 13:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:29 <@Pacra> i mean not the actual end, i meant the change 13:30 no not yet. people are still playing, dont want to update a level file while folks are playing 13:30 <@Pacra> ah, I was playing that said level that already generated 13:30 !who 13:30 K2: [hdf-us] aosdict [evil] Pacra [evil] hothraxxa [evil] davidkent [evil] krm26 [evil] musicdemon [slex] Delraven [un] pagano [dnh] dgoddard [xnh] BLARGO [xnh] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [evil] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:30 i'll probably go live tonight my time 13:31 <@Pacra> well since it already generated, wouldn't actually change the level for me, iirc, yes? 13:31 it wouldnt no 13:32 but changing a .des file while players are still playing and their binary is expecting an older .des file - bad 13:33 fyi all, 370-hdf will be updated at some point tomorrow. lots of new changes, some cool things coming 13:34 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 13:34 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 13:35 ooh, sounds cool 13:35 <@Pacra> yeah, makes sense @K2 13:35 <@Pacra> Also did you consider making dragonhide simply a nonwishable material instead of nerfing the AC 13:36 <@Pacra> that would be an interesting choice 13:36 i did when I first added object materials 13:36 <@Pacra> use something with a useful ego, or use something with better AC value 13:36 <@Pacra> ah 13:36 to me it doesnt make sense - you can wish for an ultra powerful quest artifact that doesnt even beong to you... but you cant wish for a simple material 13:37 that didnt compute 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:4866 13:37 *belong 13:38 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2011 13:38 i think the dragonhide AC nerf I did will be fine. it nerfs it a bit but its not over the top, and its still the best material to get 13:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9656 13:38 you can wish for an ultra powerful quest artifact that doesn't even belong to you... but you can't reliably wish for +5 on a simple piece of gear 13:38 ^ that 13:38 if that's your standard for wishing power, then a lot of things in wishing don't make sense 13:39 anyways... if you're banking your survival on a few extra points of AC, you have other more serious issues to resolve 13:39 I think wishable dragonhide is very important if you want people to be able to win the game :-) 13:39 it doesnt hurt, thats for sure 13:40 hah new conduct - never used dragonhide 13:40 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 658 points, T:2270, exterminated by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:40 2 less AC as nerf is fine 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:5396 13:44 that K2 is a real jerk 13:44 never use dragonhide 13:44 ha! 13:45 yeah what a b-hole 13:45 I'm pretty sure that my success in evilhack is correlated to an early dragonhide find 13:46 elenmirie: all my success in this game is due to getting a lava demon pet on my first forge dip 13:46 lol 13:46 I only get hostile ones 13:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:10002 13:46 which led to it killing a shk, which led to a magic lamp, which I could bless because I'm a priest... 13:46 so now I have dragonhide speed boots 13:46 I knew dragonhide would come into it somewhere 13:47 you can have dragonhide speed boots? 13:47 oh, yes 13:48 wtf why was I getting dragonhide water walking boots then 13:48 because they are also useful? 13:48 and you can have a helm of speed 13:48 honestly though speed boots had to be metal 13:48 thought* 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2143 points, T:4056, killed by a soldier ant 13:49 no, that's kicking boots 13:49 dragonhide jumping boots + helm of speed 13:49 you can't have dragonhide kicking boots 13:49 well TIL 13:49 \o/ 13:49 the Hardfought School of Hard Knocks 13:49 university education, no common sense 13:50 book larnin' 13:50 tip: T-shirt can also be dragonhide and have an object property 13:50 tip: you can wear t-shirts as a monk if K2 breaks something 13:50 oh yes sorry ;-) 13:50 as a giant monk* 13:50 fsdfj 13:50 <@Pacra> haha, a d:9 1x3 store 13:50 I wonder if someone who had never played nethack before but had an eidetic memory memorised the wiki, would they be able to win first time? 13:50 <@Pacra> the saddest store 13:51 <@Pacra> following the definition of eidetic, yes 13:51 me break something? nooo.... 13:51 I doubt it, the gnome with the wand of death waits for people like that 13:51 yeah, I think experience would beat book larnin' 13:52 we should try it 13:52 we need a noob with an eidetic memory 13:52 who's willing to memorise the wiki 13:52 for our amusement 13:53 <@Tone> There's a lot of experience and context that is needed generally 13:53 joking apart, the wiki is fantastic resource, lots of useful strategy tips when I started playing. 13:53 there's a few articles that would trip them up a bit depending on version 13:53 looking at you master kaen 13:54 heh, yes 13:54 <@Tone> Although I wouldn't be surprised if someone who is good at these kinds of games already, is warned about some of the harsher dangers, and gets just a little lucky could win first-try 13:54 true, if they already had experience with other roguelikes that would tip the scales 13:54 <@Tone> It's hard to gauge how significant some of the numbers are without playing the game though 13:55 <@Tone> Like I think you get a feel for how strong you are at certain points of the game, and it can be hard to quantify what the net result of your weapon, ac, max hp all mean 13:55 what's the significance of a furnace in splicehack? I couldn't find anything about it in the wiki. I'm guessing you can't drink from it.... 13:56 not unless you like hot lava 13:56 mmmm lava 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1622 13:58 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Cthulhu, on T:57015 14:03 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 795 points, T:1780, offed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:04 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 16 points, T:94, slaughtered by a brown mold 14:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] pagano (Wiz Inc Fem Neu), 32771 points, T:9427, killed by a barbed devil 14:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:09 oh! a tip just said i can cook food with a furnace! 14:09 <@Pacra> what is this, adom 14:10 splice hack. 14:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12753 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:192 14:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:495 14:13 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 164 points, T:600, defeated by a rabid rat 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1270 points, T:4242, killed by a giant ant 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5142 14:15 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 14:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:19 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:899 14:22 shadowcat: get your mouth set for roast hobgoblin! 14:23 great with a eucalyptus leaf and yellow mold stuffing 14:24 amateurhour: there is not single player score. only clan scores. 14:25 aosdict: slashthem was dropped from the tournament even though it was still on public servers as the dev thought it wasn't ready. 14:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed bag of holding", on T:13420 14:27 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57321 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2104 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2744 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:23078 14:33 <@Pacra> oh no the macro was on 14:34 was that the "put all the wands into the bag" macro? 14:35 <@Pacra> it was a macro for a different game 14:35 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:2940 14:35 <@Pacra> thats a YANI fun and challenging macro to periodically trigger though 14:36 diggity dawg 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:26079 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1527 points, T:4042, killed by a soldier ant 14:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:38 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided disenchanters dungeon wide on T:57590 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3222 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3230 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2463 points, T:5225, killed by a hill orc called Ogzugris of Aruka 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1652 14:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 62376 points, T:15277, killed by an ettin 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1786 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3404 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 166 points, T:845, killed by a jackal 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3482 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Tymora, on T:24559 14:51 rawr 14:51 so... how would I go about creating a new race? 14:52 (as if slex needed more races, but yes, the pigman must be made to exist) 14:52 inspired by minecraft? 14:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1518 14:57 Pigmen can eat *everything* in one turn (including boulders, which they can swallow whole instead of pushing), never choke even if oversatiated, but when they eat to such a point that a normal mortal would choke, they instead throw a fireball in a random direction (including on self, and whose 14:57 damage they cannot resist, in case it hits them). They 14:57 fly, of course, because pigs fly, and have intrinsic hunger, poison, and sickness resistance, so to be able to eat everything. They pray to a different gods and can use all aligned altars, whose gods will reluctantly allow them to use, and they can pray in gehennom, but any interaction with a 14:57 nonaligned altar will cause a wide angle disintegration 14:57 beam 14:57 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:5248 14:58 the fireball is of course an explosive fart 14:59 How would I go about coding all that... 15:01 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5687 15:02 Also, a simpler question 15:02 where are the initial messages when you start a new character stored? 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2350 points, T:3123, killed by a wolf 15:03 oh, and i forgot: a pigman's god never gets angry, but may be AFK and not answer a prayer anyway even when a regular god would have 15:05 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 13993 points, T:5963, sent to the grave by a storm giant called Vizer Dophomor 15:06 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 178 points, T:1044, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 10 points, T:62, killed by a sewer rat 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:256 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 191 points, T:308, killed by a giant rat 15:09 <@riker> porkman my general advice to finding something out is to search the source code for the msgs 15:10 <@riker> like, the "aloha riker the tourist" stuff? search for aloha, see where that is in the code and look around there 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 53 points, T:200, killed by a jackal 15:15 can you grep on the github desktop? 15:16 cause, slex files are too big and searching github just says no thx 15:16 also, how do you create a new class? 15:16 or race? 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1292 15:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:20 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:5355 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35358 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:26846 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 825 points, T:2190, killed by a paper golem 15:25 <@Sig> [dnh] Two questions: what's up with all the water on this floor, and what is that monster in the vault likely to be? (IE how soon can I break in without it killing me) 15:25 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/701151508485505044/unknown.png 15:25 Oh 15:26 that's a treasure valut 15:26 well,it's a 3 15:26 <@riker> aha porkman knows that thing 15:26 so chances are it's not as bad as it could have been 15:26 treasure vaults are vaults surrounded by water 15:26 <@riker> i forget sometimes you abused the hell out of dnethack 15:26 that have 4 chests full of loot 15:26 usually many good items 15:26 and a guardian 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2567 points, T:4484, killed by a killer bee 15:26 the guardian can be one of many things, there's a list somewher eon the wiki 15:26 <@riker> sig: the river is just random, it's unrelated to the vault. it's got some level-appropriate sea monsters but that's it 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:738 15:27 <@riker> 3 is probably like a guardian naga 15:27 <@riker> aka free action or die 15:27 if you have a wand of digging, you could zap it at the vault from the other side of the water 15:27 and then blast whatever it is and hope it can't fly 15:27 <@riker> do not do that until you can see what's inside, or unless you check it can't fly/swim 15:27 <@riker> i have done that and been chased across the level by a priest of ghaun 15:27 that's not a 3 thought is it 15:28 ...abused..., i played dnh 15:28 i took certain mechanics to their limit 15:28 :) 15:28 <@riker> :) 15:28 Any has now nerfed every single thing i used to win my slex streak 15:29 <@riker> and? 15:29 it's like, she doesn't want anyone to win it, ever 15:30 <@riker> https://paste.ee/p/1YnUL the list 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1626 15:32 hothraxxa: y u complain about non-slex devs doing things like this when amy is the biggest offender? :) 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 694 points, T:1876, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 15:34 <@riker> eye of doom, son of typhon, nightgaunt, purple worm, bebelith, guardian naga are the 3 warnings sig 15:34 it's doable :p 15:35 <@riker> of those - eye of doom and nightgaunt can fly, the rest cannot and will be stuck in the vault, assuming you zap digging without filling in the moat 15:35 dig the corner slot in case it is a bebelith 15:35 <@riker> ^ 15:35 so he can't get out 15:35 <@riker> and he can't attack you either 15:35 K2 a monster in sokoban had already acquired the prize when I arrived :-( 15:35 <@riker> but more importantly - it should be easily checkable with telepathy, all of those should have a mind 15:36 no chance of a BoH now 15:36 K2 intended sokoban behaviour? 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 100 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:36243 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:36288 15:40 mobileuser if a monster somehow gets a hold of a sokoban prize 15:40 before you get there 15:40 its still doable 15:40 yeah I see now 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 58 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:36463 15:41 the second you touch one of the prixes, the others go *poof* 15:41 *prizes 15:41 standing on top of the prize tool now :-) 15:41 50% chance... 15:41 come on RNG 15:42 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 15:42 YES!!!!! 15:42 got ya 15:43 trade? 15:43 I have a marker 15:43 I'm told it's quite rare 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:36658 15:44 You sound like someone desperate for a BoH ;-) 15:44 You'll have to throw in some more stuff O:3 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 263 points, T:1009, killed by a red mold 15:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:46 ey porkman 15:47 i heard you won slex again? 15:47 mobileuser: you want my marker 0:3? I can do that :) 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:36844 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36851 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36852 15:50 i have a 2-streak aye 15:50 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:50 Thx aosdict but no thx :') 15:50 how are you, stenno? 15:51 I'm starting to chip away at pork'em fixes 15:51 massive denerfing operation 15:51 <@riker> that's a pog moment - just wrote a blessed scroll of magic mapping, despite not knowing magic mapping, so I could get the sunless sea lamp <3 first try 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 168 points, T:442, killed by a bolt of fire 15:52 <@riker> i had exactly 1 blessed scroll to blank and i found the marker ON the level 15:52 RNG is kind riker, all praise RNG 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:37067 15:52 nice one porkman 15:52 wow, magic markers all over this joint 15:52 i am fine, like quarantine-fine 15:53 hope you are healthy too 15:53 <@riker> porkman: god never getting angry should be relatively simple for pigmen 15:54 <@riker> just have a check in pray.c that just makes 10% of prayers fail with no bad effects or something like that 15:54 <@riker> and block anger from every source you can find or smth 15:54 i am well 15:55 still working but otherwise in isolation 15:57 could actually call it porker 15:57 instead of pigman 15:57 <@riker> sounds cooler 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:37404 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37409 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37410 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:37455 16:02 gotta figure out how to create a new race though 16:07 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 20141 points, T:8182, killed by a human zombie, while fainted from lack of food 16:08 porkman its not too difficult 16:09 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 16:09 maybe you can use a commit as a reference 16:09 like, this is what I did when I added centaurs - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f1cc86461e25730f85117fd04c68c0a7c57b8788 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37734 16:09 maybe that can serve as a guide 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:37741 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1227 16:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] pagano (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3720 16:12 <@Sig> @riker and porkman, I've got telepathy but no towel. Will head to Sokoban and try to get Magic Missile to clear it out. 16:12 <@Sig> @riker and porkman, I've got telepathy but no towel. Will head to Sokoban and try to get Magic Missile to clear it out. 16:12 <@Sig> Would have to to get earth scrolls to get into the vault anyway. 16:12 Holy RNG a level with 64 baby owl bears. What's going on here? :-) 16:12 <@riker> sig: actually, all you need is a digging means, a pick-axe specifically 16:13 <@riker> digging out rock can create a boulder 16:13 <@riker> just dig around until you can fill in the square 16:14 <@Sig> Oh, alright. I thought that only happened when monsters dig. 16:15 mobileuser :) 16:17 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:17 owlbear nest! 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1633 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:7369 16:18 That mother owlbear is going to be so angry 16:18 <@Sig> Dammit my horse starved 16:19 <@riker> sig: happens if you dig with a pickaxe only 16:19 <@Sig> I wish there were more messages to suggest that something is going wrong with your pet, because I always forget to feed it. 16:20 <@Sig> Ah 16:20 how many eggs did you find mobileuser 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had a pair of elven boots entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:11600 16:22 sig: you can chat to your pet if you don't have a stethoscope 16:23 <@Sig> @riker is it worth boosting my saber skill past Basic? I'm not sure what mode of Lordly Might I'm gonna be using the most. 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:31696 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31698 16:23 <@riker> human? 16:23 <@Sig> rebatela: Yeah but I forget to do that too 16:23 <@Sig> Yes human 16:24 <@riker> I would, you'll have enough skill slots 16:24 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 16:24 <@riker> maybe not skilled 16:24 <@Sig> I'm too used to low maintantence pets 16:24 0 eggs K2, unless I didn't pay attention, let me check. 16:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:24 <@Sig> So I should push it to Skilled, but not to Expert? It starts at basic. 16:24 hmm there should be at least a couple owlbear eggs in the nest 16:25 <@riker> endgame you'll have 45 skill slots 16:25 <@riker> that should be plenty to advance to expert anyway, i'd say, since saber is a useful skill 16:25 0 eggs, would you like to copy the save file? 16:26 <@riker> more importantly - saber is a good slashing wep, if you want to switch between mace/spear/saber for blunt/pierce/slash 16:26 I'm taking a break anyway 16:26 nah its ok 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:7664 16:26 ok :-) 16:26 maybe RNGeesus didnt make any eggs 16:26 i'll check it ou tlater, its not a huge deal 16:27 not really no :-) 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:317 16:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:28 <@Sig> @riker Am I going to 30 in dnh? In vanilla I rarely go past 15 if I can help it. 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:39173 16:28 <@riker> sig: absolutely 16:28 <@riker> dnethack takes the leveling approach of throwing dumb stuff at you regardless of level, in particular demon lord dmg 16:29 <@riker> and it's much easier to level up than grind !oFH until you hit 400-500 hp 16:29 <@riker> (that being said - it's still doable, but i think it's nerfed, if not in the hdf version definitely in the next release) 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:39421 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:39421 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:39424 16:32 <@Sig> Interesting, thanks for the heads up. A dwarf just dropped a poison axe, is that worth using? IIRC the axe is a Lordly Might weapon 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:39446 16:33 <@riker> sig: no 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:32632 16:35 <@Sig> Ok, ty 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:39577 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2132 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:2159 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:39723 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2202 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:39729 16:42 huh, frost salamander 16:42 now if I know evilhack at all, I'm willing to bet they can do something evil 16:42 like drag you into ice to drown you 16:43 might be too scared to do this new optional branch lol 16:44 huh, I thought evilhack got rid of the 18/xx str system 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:39778 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1231 points, T:3652, killed by a gnome 16:44 aosdict no 16:44 it didnt 16:44 I wish it did, getting to 19 str is annoying 16:44 amateurhour frost salamanders dont drag you into the ice. its solid 16:45 <{Demo}1> what about the snow? 16:45 so I have no idea how people get to giants' natural 25 str max 16:45 K2 in my head they smash the ice with their tail and pull you under 16:45 I am glad that's not a thing 16:45 :D 16:45 * K2 takes notes 16:45 amateurhour: as a giant, when you eat/drink something to bump up your strength, it goes up faster than other races 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8115 16:47 I'm vegan so the options for that are rather limited 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1552238 points, T:39802, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Cropper/nethack/dumplog/1587005730.nh.html 16:47 maybe it's fine without veganism 16:47 TIL that battleaxes can cut down trees, nice 16:48 I thought only 'axe' could do that, like a hatchet style 16:48 nah 16:49 i have a rather large splitting axe here at the house 16:49 Battle-axes are still axes :B 16:49 granted its not dbl-sided like a battle axe. i wish it were though 16:50 there's a bear trap in the ice river 16:50 clearly there's a hunter that comes here 16:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:54 amateurhour I had a lot of fun trying to chop petrified trees until K2 fixed that bug ;-) 16:54 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 16:55 :P 16:55 hah if that had happened to me I'd probably just have assumed battleaxes didn't work 16:55 and gone hunting round the entire dungeon 16:56 am nervous about what's on this branch lol 16:56 no idea what's ahead 16:56 <@riker> more ice 16:56 Oh I did hunt around the dungeon. I tried axe, batlle-axe, Cleaver... :b 16:56 exciting :) 16:56 why were you chopping down petrified trees? 16:56 They were giving me nasty looks 16:57 you should be able to burn them down 16:57 they're dead. they should burn 16:57 Tried wand of fire, no luck. 16:57 oh i know that doesn't work. i'm saying it should 16:58 Yes that was what I thought at the time :-) 16:58 oh that would be cool 16:58 Had I been a Healer I would have tried stone to flesh as well 16:58 except... hah. one catches on fire. others adjacent should too 16:59 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] 16:59 that would make sparkle look tame 16:59 maybe just one at a time 17:00 I hope you have the warning intrinsic amateurhour 17:00 fun fact - if you zap a wand of death at a regular tree, it turns it into a dead tree 17:00 rumour! 17:01 if something throws a boulder at you while you're on ice 17:01 do you drown 17:01 sometimes 17:02 hah I had a ring of levitation on at all times ;-) 17:03 if so then I've avoided death 5x and should buy a lottery ticket 17:04 I panicked and zapped death at it and it worked 17:04 wand of fire would have worked too 17:05 the stupid snowman stands on ice 17:05 lol I saw a patch of non-ice so went for it 17:05 it's a pit 17:05 tfw 17:06 omg coop telepathy with my dog \o/ 17:06 I didn't know evil had implemented that 17:06 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:06 great isn't it aosdict 17:06 telepathic pets 17:06 K2 one can dig into that undiggable stone by being in a pit and zapping digging 17:06 it creates a pit in the stone 17:07 another TIL moment for me 17:07 well I implemented it (in 3.6) so yes 17:07 oh right 17:07 does it work for all undiggable things, walls? 17:08 ah sorry aosdict and thx for that feature, love it :-) 17:08 lol I woke up a throne room containing an elven king and a whole bunch of orcs (and no other elves). now they're going to town on each other 17:08 ooh but they've got iron 17:08 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:09 amateurhour I thought you had water walking boots? 17:10 I do not, that's been my go-to wish but I've not been to the castle yet 17:10 I have dragonbane from a magic lamp though 17:11 not been to medusa yet even 17:11 Ah ok I wondered why you were slipping on the ice 17:11 does water walking boots stop you slipping on ice 17:11 or just snow boots 17:12 I think water walking stops you slipping, wiki check... 17:13 no that'd be snow boots 17:13 Yes I got that wrong 17:14 I thought water walking was also sufficient, but no. 17:14 snow boots of fumbling, hmmmm 17:14 I can see how you'd think that, the ice melting under the pressure of your foot or whatever 17:15 levitate, my children. levitation is your friend 17:15 I see a wooly mammoth 17:15 pet it 17:15 and I know there's a saddle a couple of floors up 17:15 :thonk: 17:16 I wonder if I can just throw tripe at it 17:16 science time 17:17 no :( 17:18 nor an apple 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:528 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:544 17:18 it's a mammoth. try a peanut 17:19 I heard the elephants stepped on all of them 17:19 not got taming 17:19 holy crap throne wish 17:19 i heard that too! 17:19 it sounds scary from the wiki article 17:19 uhhhhhhh 17:19 I need MR or reflection 17:20 MR > reflection 17:20 ^ 17:20 gdsm it is? 17:20 I could go comr but my robe is nice 17:20 amulet of MR is also an option 17:20 hmm but going comr would let me stack another dragonhide gear piece... 17:21 what spells are you using? 17:21 priest, so the only combat spell is healing 17:21 ones you could cloak switch for? 17:21 evilhack makes these choices interesting. there are other types of useful DSM 17:21 and I have regen ring 17:22 aren't healing spells fairly easy to cast without the robe? 17:22 mobileuser: yet another reason to defer DSM until I actually see some dragons :) 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:10879 17:22 hey Beholder where's my wish 17:23 he didn't behold your wish :( 17:23 !who 17:23 hello 17:23 Hello aosdict, Welcome to #hardfought 17:24 aosdict: 17:24 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Pic Agb Mal Neu), 6099 points, T:6482, killed by a monster (Mr. Limsley, the shopkeeper) 17:24 !booze amateurhour 17:24 * Beholder throws amateurhour a fifth of liquid courage, brewed by the /dev/null/oracle at 13 degrees Celsius. 17:24 no booze for amateurhour??? 17:24 !booze Beholder 17:24 * Beholder passes Beholder a tumbler of grog, conjured by the /dev/null/oracle at 290 Kelvin. 17:24 !booze nabru 17:24 * Beholder pours nabru a glass of Johnnie Walker Red whiskey, fermented by the late Pinobot at 294 Kelvin. 17:25 cheers all! 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1677 17:25 !booze himself 17:25 * Beholder tosses himself a fifth of the hard stuff, prayed over by Rodney at -18 degrees Celsius. 17:25 !booze herself 17:25 * Beholder delivers herself a tumbler of liquid courage, conjured by Rodney at -18 degrees Celsius. 17:25 hehe 17:25 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 17:26 without the robe, wizard lock and force bolt are harder to cast, but that's ok 17:26 remove curse and healing still 0 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:524 17:26 on my priest ascension i went with amulet of mr and sdsm and dragonhide cloak of protection 17:26 yeah I think I want gauntlets of protection for my next wish... 17:27 well the mitre is good for +1 so with a robe, you're good 17:27 until rodney swipes it 17:28 well I just wished for a cloak to replace my robe 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1989 17:28 you're still mc3 once you have the mitre 17:29 is there any way to disable spear traps? 17:29 i forget why i wound up wishing for the cloak of protection, but it was a wish 17:29 no. fly/levitate/jump 17:30 Dragonhide doesn't rot, right? facing some brown puddings 17:30 no 17:30 only subject to the deteriorate monster spell 17:31 aosdict: dragonhide is inherently fooproof 17:31 and what hothraxxa said 17:31 destroy armor monster spell 17:31 rare but it's happened to me 17:31 yeah same 17:32 which reminds me of something i hate about all nethack variants: things don't fucking glow brown 17:32 brown isn't even a colour 17:32 can I put a boulder on a spear trap, stand on the boulder, and not be hit by the spear? 17:32 i doubt it but hey, for science 17:33 I'd rather not walk into this totally not suspicious giant castle with a wounded leg 17:33 okay science time it is 17:33 found a dilapidated armory, so I'm killing the brown puddings with... this iron ring 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1254 17:33 science tells us that no, spear traps can still get you 17:34 heh 17:34 amateurhour: why don't you have flying or levitation? 17:34 i wouldn't attempt that level without one of them 17:35 that branch i guess 17:35 I've not been to the castle yet to wish for it, I have amulet of flying but I'd need to take off ammy of MR 17:35 ok so to get over a trap... 17:35 unless this unidentified ring is levitation... 17:35 it is not 17:36 oh nice, spell of restore ability 17:36 that will be useful in a variant that removes unihorn restoring 17:36 no potions of lev either? 17:36 oh I might have some of those 17:36 I'll quaff one of those on the way out then 17:37 I just stood over the spear trap till my leg got better 17:40 that's a lot of enemies 17:42 no magic mapping amateurhour? 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3877 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1027 points, T:3877, killed by a water moccasin 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:517 17:43 I was saving them for gehennom, maybe I should use one here 17:43 recommended 17:43 oh I only have one 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:583 17:44 I guess I'll use it 17:44 at least you know the route now 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed every's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:610 17:45 really nervous for some reason, I suspect this is going to be very difficult 17:45 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 17:45 question for coders 17:45 how would I code something to do: If object in question is equipped, unequip it before continuing 17:46 Your suspicions are correct :-) 17:47 if I was looking for an example of that I'd check out how mjolnir and aklys are handled 17:47 when they return and you fluff it 17:47 but someone that actually knows would be more helpful I'd imagine 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:890 17:48 i could probably look at the shanking function in slex 17:49 also, there's a lot of OTMP used 17:49 but i can't find what that means by searching the net 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:992 17:51 otmp is a variable used all over nethack 17:51 temporary object pointer 17:52 I need a calming cup of tea before I try this 17:52 I miss being a giant. you're playing giant monk, amateur? 17:52 yeah rebatela 17:52 fun 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 922 points, T:1318, killed by a killer bee 17:53 no, shanking will remove a random item 17:55 amateurhour you having fun? 17:56 stressful fun 17:56 this floor will probably be the end of this run though :^) 17:56 porkman: if (obj->owornmask) setnotworn(obj); 17:57 because I have no idea what's going to happen with the ice queen 17:57 I've got a RegEx question. I'm testing some RegEx that looks like it should work, but is not applied in-game. Anyone here have experience in that area? 17:58 regex makes my head hurt heh 17:58 it's not super complex, which is why I'm a little puzzled 17:58 musicdemon can you link your config? 17:58 amateurhour did you see my most recent death yet? 17:59 mithril stethoscope. hmm 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9786 17:59 brb 17:59 nope, what was it mobileuser? 17:59 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/musicdemon/slex/musicdemon.slexrc 17:59 string to match: an uncursed +2 rapier (weapon in foreclaw) 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6958 18:00 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1586628047.evil.txt 18:00 w...t...f... 18:00 lol I have dragonbane so I'm hoping that's not an issue 18:00 torrent of acid wtf 18:01 here's the line I'm using, to make it easier: MENUCOLOR=".*uncursed .*\((weapon|wielded|on).*\)"=green&underline 18:02 good luck amateurhour! (y) 18:02 I dunno about escaping parens like that 18:02 in my rc I don't use any backslashes 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2851 points, T:2642, killed by a raven 18:02 hah mobileuser you've made me even more nervous about it 18:03 I'm so going to die :') 18:03 more tea, more tea.... ;-) 18:03 I'm going to try zap death wand at them and hope that works 18:03 then I'm going to bravely run away 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 294 points, T:987, killed by a water moccasin 18:04 nooooo take on the Ice Queen! 18:04 hey it's amateurhour not professionalhour 18:04 Brave sir amateurhour 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:347 18:05 Bravely ran away away... 18:06 oh the doggos have warning level 5 as well 18:06 sometimes running away is the bravest you can du 18:06 *do 18:07 Most of the time the smart thing to do in Nethack 18:07 molten lava splashes all over me 18:07 6 damage 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:445 18:10 * aosdict enters another throne room containing an elven king on the throne and his loyal subjects the hobgoblins, who he promptly begins murdering 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:656 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:690 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:791 18:11 musicdemon maybe my cfg could help? 18:12 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/k2.evilrc - look under menucolors section 18:12 aosdict hahah 18:12 typical king 18:12 cool, I'll check that out 18:13 the hobgoblins should have said nice things about the king. 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1432 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 621 points, T:1603, poisoned by a giant spider 18:23 I am so not prepared for this 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 72 points, T:133, killed by a djinni 18:24 None of us know yet what the right prep is 18:24 * K2 knows 18:24 Yes and people reading the source code ;-) 18:24 guessing something like fireball would be good, but I'm not a spellcaster 18:25 I've actually never cast that spell, in any variant including vanilla 18:25 In my case she quaffed cursed potion of gain level 18:25 oh god 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 628 points, T:1840, killed by a killer bee 18:25 did you try zapping a death wand? 18:25 If I had had a wand of fire I might have drowned her 18:26 no, no wand of death 18:26 I'm assuming death doesn't work but I'll give it a go 18:26 gl! 18:26 I've got cursed gain level and cursed tele for when it goes wrong 18:26 This is the weirdest thing... The second pattern matches, but the first one doesn't. I just tested in-game. Maybe there is something funky with parentheses... 18:26 MENUCOLOR=".*uncursed .* \(weapon in foreclaw\)"=green&underline 18:26 MENUCOLOR=".*uncursed .* foreclaw"=green&underline 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 grey dragon scale mail", on T:467 18:27 wow, early wish 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:531 18:28 musicdemon I think escaped parens are the regex ones and unescaped are literals 18:28 musicdemon: yeah, sometimes I get lucky and get an early wish, now I have to be careful to not ruin this game :D 18:29 Also, found a clock of protection that put my AC to -9 18:29 that giant can cast spells if you get a HoB and the magic staffs for each spell school 18:29 *cloak 18:29 i was casting polymorph etc 18:29 nvm magic missile (which does a ton of damage at high levels) 18:30 thanks, amateurhour. That's what it was! I just removed the escapes and that did it. I think I've got it now 18:30 K2 I beat Koa then Ozzy and now they're fighting eachother 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:812 18:30 and Koa is no longer marked peaceful 18:30 oh I must have accidentally hit Koa somehow, wtf 18:31 but how? 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1035 18:32 I haven't got any staves rebatela 18:32 haven't even found any 18:33 sacrifice for them 18:33 hah, blessed hallucination has a chance to give enlightenment 18:33 4 crystal chests in this castle that I can't open, good times 18:33 you have 16 wisdom. could probably cast magic missile anyway. I'm a human monk in my game and i wish could just find the damn spbk 18:33 finally found charm 18:34 might max my luck and just write it 18:34 how are you finding human monks in evilhack so far? 18:34 well, it's all i play in vanilla so i'm kinda biased 18:34 but i like 18:34 But i DO cast spells lol 18:35 nvm case solved K2, I did hit Koa, my bad :( but still they probably shouldn't fight eachother 18:35 they're fighting eachother while peaceful 18:35 i've gotten to planes couple times as human i think 18:35 it must be a lot nicer being able to wear cloaks and shirts 18:36 weird they didn't fight eachother in my game 18:36 yeah for sure lol 18:36 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:36 mobileuser I'm sure you don't do dumb things like hit one of them when they're peaceful :P 18:36 uhm true ;-) 18:36 I prayed a lot at altars when I was a giant, wore +5 ring of protection, ended up with a +20 bonus. You dont have to do that as human because like you said you can wear dragonhide shirt/cloak 18:37 +20 protection from paying priests? 18:37 no from prayer 18:37 and paying priests 18:37 oh 18:37 and ring of prot 18:37 maybe I should start doing that 18:37 ring of prot gives you MC+1 too 18:38 I don't really like grinding for anything 18:38 which is also hard for a giant to get 18:38 also had gauntlets of protection 18:38 you must have spent a *lot* of time praying 18:38 I basically just go to the next major objective 18:38 you can spellbooks that way too (altars) and hitpoints so it's kind of my strategy anyway 18:38 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 18:40 mind flayer sucked my brains and i went all the way back to expert in martial arts (problem since resolved but that sucked) 18:40 that happened to me as well 18:40 took ages to get back to grandmaster for some reason 18:41 I'm really glad it doesn't make you forget everything though 18:41 need to geno. I have 4 wishes left but i lost my whole stash. almost quit. so i'm trying not to use them until i see what i find 18:41 yikes, what happened to your stash? 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:8173 18:41 i drunk fingered into lava @ castle 18:41 goddammit Odin 18:41 not stash i guess.. but bag 18:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42 luckily i hadn't gotten the wand yet 18:42 always fireproof your bag, I learned that the hard way 18:42 but lost a marker, bunch of genocide scrolls 18:42 oh for sure. rookie mistake 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3148 points, T:2416, killed by an invisible arch-lich 18:43 I "merely" walked on lava, and still lost my bag :-) 18:43 using a wand of polymorph on that nymph was NOT A GOOD IDEA 18:44 ouch 18:44 this has the flavor of deja vu nabru :P 18:45 amateurhour are you taking on the ice queen tonight? 18:45 I'm trying to pluck up the courage 18:45 lo 18:46 the dogs keep killing eachother though, quite concerning 18:46 well, if this game leaves bones, there is some good stuff to be had. but good luck to whoever gets them 18:46 fun one for K2 perhaps 18:47 ignore the dogs ;-) 18:47 I bet she's wearing something that protects against death 18:48 is there an option so that when i Remove or Take something off, it asks me which letter even if i'm only wearing one thing? 18:48 yes, paranoid Remove 18:49 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#paranoid_confirmation 18:49 the dogs killing each other wasnt intended, but its eerily close to real life 18:49 Koa tries to kill Ozzy daily, repeatedly 18:49 is that ahh perfect 18:50 it happened when I hit one of them after they were peaceful, before the other one was peaceful 18:50 weird 18:50 i have a problem where if i have a towel at H and i want to take it off, i press RH out of habit and then fly off to the left into some lava or what-have-you 18:50 once again discovering weird edge cases by being a fool 18:51 dk657 I died that way once 18:51 "once" 18:51 most of the time i merely blank all my scrolls and dilute all my options 18:51 most of the time => i do this a lot 18:51 here's what I ended up with. Four lines cover all cases of worn/wielded items: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/musicdemon/slex/musicdemon.slexrc 18:52 thanks for the help :) 18:52 K2 are the dogs meant to be really tough? they're a 5 on warn but they didn't seem very strong 18:53 they are high-ish level and can dish out some damage 18:53 and Koa is quick 18:54 musicdemon awesome \o/ 18:54 uhhh how do i know if i'm turning into a zombie 18:54 do i get TermIll? 18:54 or is "You feel very sick!" the only notice i get 18:54 you'll get the TermIll notice if you're zombie sick 18:55 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 18:55 she's wearing amulet of reflection :| 18:55 dank 18:58 Yes! amateurhour! 18:58 \o/ 18:59 she wielding a longsword -> I shattered it with my fist 18:59 she wielded an athame -> I shattered it with my fist 18:59 she panicked and started spamming create monster 18:59 you shattered them with your fist 18:59 exactly 18:59 nice good timing. food time, back in a bit 19:00 And I can go to bed now :-) 19:00 haha nice 19:00 sorry to keep you guys waiting :^) 19:01 no it was great to have the tension building ;-) 19:02 now to figure out freeing pegasus 19:02 well I hope to get there in another ten levels or so 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:164 19:04 nabru: Hubris 19:04 Late but boy howdy 19:05 Just yesterday had someone test their luck trying to get rid of hostile watchmen with a wand of polymorph 19:05 There are so many nerfs in slex i don't even know which ones to begin with 19:05 Genuinely don't remember if it was a different person though 19:06 Umbire: yep, that was the word I was looking for. And I think said person was me 19:07 Well lesson double learned then 19:07 (I hope) 19:07 :D 19:07 I hope so, too 19:08 heh 19:08 porkman if you want to just roll then back look into git revert, or git checkout to the release you were happy with 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:169 19:08 well, you *can* poly 19:08 stuff to avoid murder penalties 19:08 well, i don't wanna roll back the bug fixes 19:08 porkman: yep, the goal was to avoid the murder penalty 19:08 you might find this helpful, or you might not: https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2 19:08 otherwise i'll become a second soviet 19:09 nice, thanks 19:09 "second soviet" is a cool name 19:09 though if i find a way to see the changes made between each version in the code 19:09 i can go and snipe the ones i want to revert 19:09 ...or change in some other way 19:09 it's covered in there, probably under the git basics section 19:10 eg reroll artifact - i've made it so that you can reroll a worn artifact, but by doing so it will unequip everything else you are wearing too 19:10 I wish I could force people at work to read it tbh 19:10 (now let's see if it works) 19:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:12 my pegasus died, was swallowed by a dragon on the way out ;_; 19:12 nope, i broke it 19:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) was given the Arkenstone, on T:17142 19:13 i broke spell.c :p 19:14 I'll figure out why and how to fix it tomorrow, have a good night :) 19:14 sleep well 19:14 i can upload the broken code to github though if you wanna read it haha 19:14 I mean polymorphing anything at all ever is likely to make it harder to kill 19:15 or pertinently more likely to kill you 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:969 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:920 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:349 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 50 points, T:245, killed by a jackal 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 345 points, T:786, killed by an iguana 19:20 !lastgame nabru 19:20 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1587251619.nh.html 19:20 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:21 what was ripley playing? 19:21 ah. 3.4.3. the text colour matches my bg 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1372 points, T:1599, killed by a dingo 19:22 https://github.com/porkmanSLEX/Porkem-extended 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:488 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 768 points, T:636, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9239 19:28 are you using a light theme? 19:28 what's a light theme? 19:28 sorry I meant that for hothraxxa, was curious what colour theme they're using 19:29 a colour theme is just a set of colours for theming applications, dark themes are very fashionable atm 19:29 night mode in apps is an example of a dark theme 19:30 here's a decent one imo: https://draculatheme.com/ 19:30 though I use solarized dark for everything out of habit/laziness 19:33 <@riker> porkman I may try to build on mac later 19:33 i am getting a lot of "expected identifier or '(' before foo" 19:33 you can't, spell.c is broken atm 19:33 i pushed it anyway so that amy can see what i am trying to do and have a stroke 19:36 but feel free to read it, Riker :) 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "elbereth", on T:3693 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1011 points, T:1480, quit 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:957 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2497 points, T:3757, killed by a killer bee 19:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 5344 points, T:3447, killed by a dwarf 19:42 <@Sig> Who keeps filling the mines with zombies 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:774 19:43 Tangles maybe :P 19:43 if it's bones 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 213 points, T:991, killed by a coyote 19:44 amateurhour you lost the pegasus?? 19:46 Can anyone suggest a good C debugger please? 19:46 gdb 19:46 there's probably just an extra or missing { or } somewhere that's broken the whole thing 19:47 would it find which one it is? 19:47 then you don't want a debugger 19:47 <@Pacra> i love dracula @amateurhour 19:47 you want a compiler or linting tool. a good compiler should point you towards such a place 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:546 19:48 porkman: on line 3882 of spell.c 19:48 you have a random } that I don't think you wanted there 19:49 K2 the pegasus fought bravely, taking on many ice trolls and shivering through it 19:49 until it walked into a silver dragon and got eaten 19:49 :( 19:49 <@Pacra> rip 19:49 but you freed it at least 19:49 it was a nice reward while it lasted 19:50 yeah, I vaguely remembered a way to remove iron bars 19:50 I was expecting monk fists could break them like boulders 19:50 how'd you find it so fast, amateurhour? 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1720 19:50 porkman, I started by downloading porkem, and compiling it, then looking for the first error in spell.c 19:51 the first was something weird in an include file, but that couldn't be it 19:51 oh 19:51 i see 19:51 the second was syntax confusion with an if, so I checked if the brackets were balanced 19:51 and they weren't 19:51 what do you use to check the balance of brackets? 19:51 YANI: iron bars can rust, if rusted, a monk could possibly break the rusted iron bars with their fists 19:52 <{Demo}1> a good text editor will make it very clear if brackets or balanced or not 19:52 vim 19:52 I'm using notepad++ 19:52 i wish nano did that 19:52 vim 19:52 I use a clang (a compiler) with a plugin in vim (a text editor) 19:52 notepad++ will tell you also 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1300 19:52 but you need to load the C plugin 19:52 and a regular vim command (%) to jump between where it thinks brackets are to figure stuff out 19:52 ooooh 19:53 honestly if I was suggesting a text editor for people to use I'd just say vscode, even if I don't use it 19:53 easy plugins available 19:53 porkman - go to Language in the top menu bar, go to C, select C 19:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:18659 19:54 yep, that was already selected 19:54 ok 19:54 might it have figured it out on its own it was C? 19:55 so move the cursor over a { or } bracket, it'll color code the one its matched with 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:2190 19:56 yep 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 588 points, T:1556, killed by a giant ant, while disrobing 19:56 though is there a way for a program to figure out that there's a misplaced bracket, without having to go check each one 19:56 ? 19:57 a good ide will give hints 19:57 the compiler throwing an error on the first thing it doesn't understand is usually enough context I think 19:57 there's like 3 more errors in spell.c but then it compiles porkman 19:58 aha 19:58 well, lemme try and figure itout 19:58 i'll see where the next error pops up 19:58 yes, good idea 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:873 20:00 wow spell.c is quite long in slex 20:00 <{Demo}1> yeah a lot of duplicate code im sure 20:00 wc -l src/spell.c -> 12294 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2069 points, T:2856, killed by a gnome lord, while being scared stiff 20:01 <{Demo}1> diff it from vanilla and then be sad 20:02 considering vanilla's is about 1.8k lines 20:02 lol 20:02 porkman I dont know if notepad++ will intelligently find the missing/extra bracket 20:02 plus you're basing your variant off of slex, which already had a lot of... things going on 20:02 *has 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 391 points, T:1416, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) had a knife entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:33763 20:03 extra bracket on 3880, lemme try it without 20:03 <@microlance> i believe its officially spring now where i live. seeing a burning car at 2am while taking a walk with my dog, is a sure sign of it im sure. 20:04 rofl 20:04 @microlance where are you? 20:05 <@microlance> northern sweden 20:05 tf you doing up at 2am :D 20:05 sweden is the last place i'd expect to see a burning car 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16073 20:06 heading to sleep myself, seeya 20:06 cya amateurhour 20:06 when you get time, i'd like to hear what you thought of the new side branch 20:06 seeya amateurhour, thank you 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:592 20:06 Microlance... a burning car? 20:06 <{Demo}1> how are the drug problems in scandenavia? 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1252 20:07 lot less smoking than the rest of europe 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1295 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1316 20:07 because people use snus instead 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1358 20:08 <{Demo}1> is that like dip but for vikings? 20:08 when i lived in goteborg, hardly anyone i knew would smoke weed, they all considered it something terrible 20:08 but, i dont really know 20:08 snus is...smokeless tobacco in bags that you put between your gum and the inside of your cheek and suck on 20:08 it tastes as bad as you'd expect it to 20:08 <{Demo}1> weed isn't really a burning car drug 20:09 <{Demo}1> im talking about drug problems, not drug minor problems 20:09 like black tar heroin problems 20:09 <{Demo}1> like think florida meth burning car 20:09 well, smoke enough of it and go drive, and you may crash and burn 20:09 not sure, i only lived there for a few months 20:10 maybe Microlance'll know 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1340 20:11 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:11 <@microlance> it was burning on a parking spot outside a couple of apartments 20:12 <@microlance> probably one of the shitty illegal cars, owned by someone who lost their license a long time ago. who drives them till the cops take them away 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:36323 20:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:19046 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:2297 20:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:13605 20:17 {Demo}1 hows new ndnh so far 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2278 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16850 20:19 <{Demo}1> i tried playing, then i fell asleep irl 20:19 <{Demo}1> pretty sunburnt and whole body hurts and not very alert 20:19 <{Demo}1> it seems to run fine, I just haven't been able to really actually get a game going 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2457 20:20 <@microlance> atleast it looked like only one car burning, this happened a couple of months ago https://vkmedia.imgix.net/p2zMbdMf_gs1ystfBv0iZ0zG2_8.jpg?auto=compress&w=2048 20:21 <{Demo}1> if i had to say where that was I would guess finland or maybe russia, not sweden 20:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1884 points, T:2621, killed by a fire ant 20:22 <@microlance> https://vkmedia.imgix.net/KUAMfEAi2gpaTbxkcflPQaRhiRE.jpg?auto=compress&w=2048 20:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:326 20:23 <@microlance> its just the architecture which is a bit soviet inspired in this part of the city 20:24 <@Sig> What determines your success chance for reading a spellbook? 20:25 <{Demo}1> snow + fuckery usually means russia, just stastically 20:28 Sig, in which version 20:28 it's usually your level, your intelligence and your wisdom 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3795 points, T:3996, killed by a troll 20:28 andwhether you are wearing lenses 20:29 specifics depend on variants 20:29 slashem for example makes book reading exceedingly easy if the book has charges and exceedingly hard if it does not 20:30 <@microlance> oh the burning car i witnessed, meant 7 cars were damaged, 20 minutes earlier 5 more cars were burning in a garage 5 or so km away 20:30 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 20:30 <@microlance> busy night for the police and fire department 20:31 what? 20:31 someone is running around burning cars? 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1861 20:31 <@microlance> its probably a coincindence 20:37 {Demo}1 i fixed a tiny bug in the dgl config, it was skipping 12.24 version games and going straight to 04.16 20:40 <{Demo}1> thanks 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2047 points, T:2988, killed by a giant spider 20:42 !who 20:42 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [evil] davidkent [evil] krm26 [evil] notsogood [nh370] qt [nh370] every [nh370] Torpid [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Cropper [nh370] Nneu [nh4] musicdemon [slex] Sig [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 20:42 <@Sig> Acquired an altar, the entire armorset of a Justice Archon (not unrelated), an elvish mythril coat, and a second pony, but now I have no food for my horses and can't screw around sacrificing like I want to, lol. 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:415 20:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) was given the Rod of Lordly Might, on T:2833 20:44 <@Sig> Nevermind we're running hot tonight 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:470 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:506 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:216 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1190 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1225 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:436 20:51 <@Sig> > The gnome king hits Adagio. Adagio is killed! Solves my two horse problem! 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 615 points, T:1242, poisoned by an orcish arrow 20:51 <@Pacra> i rolled some pretty buff horrors 20:52 <@Pacra> @Sig what's next on your todo list 20:52 <@Sig> Is there any way to tell my pet's HP? 20:52 <@Sig> Was gonna find Soko since I don't really need the Minetown temple yet. 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1901 20:53 <@Pacra> got a stethoscope? 20:53 <@Pacra> #chatting to them might give you an idea 20:55 !tell K2 my pet is frozen, picking up and dropping an item in a shop doorway. I can break the behavior with my magic whistle, but I'm saving for if you want to look at it. 20:55 No worries, Bliss56, I've got this! 20:55 <@Sig> > Sunshine whickers He's always such good conversation 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:855 20:56 <@Sig> I'll fish around for a stethoscope. We cleared out the throne room that had me worried anyway. 20:56 <@Sig> Any additional precautions I need to take before #sitting? 20:56 <@Sig> In dnh, I mean 20:57 drop your gold or put it in a container 20:58 <@Sig> I did that much 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1455 20:58 <@Sig> Rolled a geno, what should I hit? Dlvl 6 if that helps. 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2428 21:01 <@Pacra> i like to do nightgaunts first at any level heh 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1309 points, T:1720, killed by an elf zombie 21:03 <@Sig> I wiki'd a nightgaunt and was wondering why you would want to genocide that, until I realized I was looking at the SLASH'EM version, lol. I think I'll get rid of them then, they seem like a pain 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law), 104614 points, T:40759, killed by a baluchitherium 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law), 39 points, T:270, killed by a falling rock 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12493 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4 points, T:56, killed by a sewer rat 21:08 <@Pacra> @Sig if you don't have a good way to deal with them they are a royal pain 21:08 <@Pacra> you look pretty decked out for where you are 21:09 <@Sig> Oh yeah, I'm highrolling right now. Ran really hot with dilapidated armories and shops. 21:09 <@Sig> Do I have any reason to do the Temple of Moloch right now? 21:09 <@Pacra> not a great idea at the moment 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:85 21:15 <@Sig> Went back to an old armory and found +3 (rotted, admittedly) speed boots. Bout to turn this off and go buy some lotto tickets. 21:17 get me a powerball ticket 21:20 <@Sig> What's the Lost Tomb? 21:20 <@riker> > Acquired an altar, the entire armorset of a Justice Archon (not unrelated) 21:20 <@riker> that sounds so suspicious lol 21:20 <@riker> sig: tomb, has a bunch of undead and a lich at the end 21:20 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 21:20 <@riker> I highly recommend rocking mace lordly might for the lich, he'll take 1/4 damage from non-blunt weapons 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:236 21:21 <{Demo}1> isn't spear good against liches? 21:21 <@Sig> Doubt I'll find any horsefeed down there. Should I keep hunting for Sokoban? 21:21 <@riker> unlikely and probably yeah 21:21 <@riker> it's literally just a "lich" not a random L, so you should be able to kill him fine, might curse some stuff but it should be doable. loot is just a bunch of random stuff, mostly scrolls & spellbooks & potions 21:22 <@riker> @Sig temple of moloch is always worth doing if you have grimtooth and/or telepathy (to see when the priests are dead). 21:22 <@riker> also, in the future go for shoggoths or gugs as a first geno for neu - nightgaunts are peaceful to neutrals, and you'll want to geno shoggoths & gugs if you can later 21:23 <@riker> (that being said - i've accidentally aggrod nightgaunts as neutral enough that I generally do it later anyway) 21:24 <@Sig> Don't have either yet. I can name the tooth right? Orcish dagger? 21:24 <@riker> yes 21:24 <@riker> i always name it ASAP for warning of priests, shks 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:737 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3473 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 411 points, T:811, killed by a coyote 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:698 21:28 drum of earthquake is probably a bad instrument to play in sokoban? 21:28 <@Sig> Never actually named an artifact before, do I b) Name an individual item or c) Name all items of a certain type? 21:28 Probably is... a word 21:28 <@Sig> Arrested by the treasure zoo for noise complaints. 21:28 @Sig: Individual natch 21:29 Other wouldn't make sense 21:29 In any case kicking >>>> 21:29 Even at empty air 21:29 <@Sig> That's what I suspected, wanted to make sure. 21:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Val Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:9876 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:958 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3695 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:19155 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3726 21:32 <@Sig> You see here a golden broadsword hilt named The Atma Weapon (35520 zorkmids). 21:33 <@Sig> Uhh 21:33 Free artifact 21:33 :B 21:33 <@Sig> It's actually quite expensive 21:34 Well yeah if you're gonna have *that* attitude about it 21:34 <@Sig> Nothing's stopping my horse from picking it up right? 21:35 <@Pacra> oh, that weapon 21:35 <@Pacra> that's a fun weapon 21:35 Ooh, Dlvl:22 general store 21:36 Is it cursed? 21:36 Bliss56 - it's copied, thank you 21:36 K2: Message from Bliss56 at 2020-04-18 20:55 EDT: my pet is frozen, picking up and dropping an item in a shop doorway. I can break the behavior with my magic whistle, but I'm saving for if you want to look at it. 21:39 <@Sig> Nope, Sunshine can walk on it, he's just not picking it up. Maybe I just gotta wait 21:40 <@Sig> > Sunshine picks up a golden broadsword hilt named The Atma Weapon. 21:40 [hdf-us] [evil] naidneelttil (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 47 points, T:359, zapped herself with a wand 21:40 <@Sig> We got there 21:40 <@riker> nice 21:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41 <@riker> that's a great weapon for you 21:41 <@riker> probably the best you'll find lol 21:41 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:41 <@riker> don't get drain res and enjoy 3d10 + 3x enchant 21:41 <@Sig> Should I use it over Lordstick unless there's a type advantage? 21:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 14 silver darts on an altar, on T:3010 21:44 <@Sig> > Apply the Atma Weapon to turn it on and off. So it runs out of batteries then? 21:44 <@Sig> That's about the only way I can explain 3d10 + 3x damage on an otherwise normal 1h sword 21:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1908 21:48 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:48 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) had The Marauder's Map bestowed upon her by the storm, on T:12919 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:46573 21:49 is there any rhyme or reason to the sokoban prizes? 21:50 last time when i opened a door the others disappeared like i'd made some kind of choice 21:50 heya dk657 21:50 Sounds like a variant 21:50 ya in evilhack 21:50 so i'll break it down for ya 21:51 each closet in evilhack sokoban has a prize 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2136 21:51 the three prizes - one is a tool, one is an amulet, one is a piece of armor 21:51 in each closet its 50/50 one object or another 21:52 so for the tool, its 50/50 either a BoH or a marker 21:52 oooo 21:52 One of the few sources of the latter btw 21:52 armor its either gauntlets of protection or a helm of speed, amulet its either relfection or MR 21:52 now here's the catch 21:53 once you open one of the closet doors, the other 2 doors go away 21:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5347 points, T:3778, killed by a yeti 21:53 do i know which door is tool/armor/amulet? 21:53 and as insurance, once you touch a prize, the other two *poof* disappear 21:54 you can use a potion of object detection to see what type of prize is behind which door 21:54 but you'll never know exactly what it is until you actually pick it up 21:54 ah 21:54 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:54 until then it'll just show as 'sokoban prize 21:55 and they're all bright green 21:55 so no color cheating 21:55 K2: there's no benefit to using blessed object detect, right? because in that case I think I wasted a holy water 21:55 correct 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:2277 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:10653 21:55 Actually no 21:55 iirc blessed might/might not filter out mimics 21:55 and for completeness sake, spell of detect treasure will work too 21:56 And also give you their identities as if you'd handled it personally 21:56 oooh right 21:56 Umbire: giving identities doesn't work for evilhack sokoban prizes 21:56 it specifically blocks learning their identities 21:57 Which makes sense 21:57 But I thought you were asking in general 21:57 every so often thats not true and i think that might explain it 21:57 lemme dbl check 21:57 completely forgot this was related to Soko prizes so 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:592 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:40 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 294 points, T:682, killed by a magic missile 21:58 in grunthack or wherever has a similar system, you do get that info with blessed object detect 21:59 ok so BUC status of the potion has no bearing 21:59 i do remember though, every so often the ID of the object gets revealed, but i havent been able to recreate it 21:59 its really rare 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2583 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:143 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:305 22:01 dk657 long story short - you'll never know exactly what you're going to get from sokoban, but every prize is worth getting 22:02 and the armor is size-agnostic 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 433 points, T:1163, killed by a magic missile 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3149 22:03 <@Pacra> nabru, you love those early fountains 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:57396 22:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1141 22:05 K2: excellent run-down 22:05 got myself an amulet of reflection 22:06 Pacra: yep, I do. At least until I don't meet an early hostile water demon 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:822 22:06 Would rather have my char die early than have a hostile water demon take him/her away later 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 379 points, T:872, killed by a falling rock 22:07 <@Sig> Is there a wiki rundown of how this works? 22:07 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/701252715464097843/unknown.png 22:08 dk657 yay \o/ 22:09 @Sig are you playing dnethack? 22:09 <@Sig> Yup 22:09 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 22:09 that variant i havent played enough to know how to help 22:09 but several people in here do 22:09 <@luxidream> go ask in #nethack-variants 22:10 -!- porkman has quit [Quit: Excess flood. Did someone see an ark float by?] 22:10 same people in there are here :) 22:10 <@luxidream> well, there tends to be a lot of dnethack talk in there 22:10 <@Sig> I was under the impression that channel was more for development than advice 22:10 <@luxidream> eh, they talk about gameplay too 22:10 @riker you around? 22:10 <@luxidream> oi @riker are you alive 22:10 heh 22:11 does it anger your deity if you kill peaceful monster? I'm a chaotic pirate. 22:11 <@Sig> Lol, yeah Riker's been really helpful. 22:11 bouquet probably 22:11 and that monsters family too 22:11 <@luxidream> what 22:12 <@riker> yes i am 22:12 <@riker> sorry i was afk 22:12 <@riker> uhhhh 22:12 <@riker> #advertise-community ward vs damage -> fooprof 22:12 <@riker> the rest -> give the poison to that weapon 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1834 22:12 <@riker> poison = sickness, like d6 or d8 extra + 10% instakill. drug is a 1/5 chance to make them go sleepy (no crit effects). stain/envenom are similar but with blindness/paralysis 22:13 Never saw much appeal in early fountaining if I'm gonna PSI hard enough to throw the run long after, really 22:13 <@riker> none of those are permanent, and all can be obtained just the same by dipping the wep into the appropriate potion 22:13 <@riker> 2 rarer poisons - lethe coating (amnesia, it's buggy and doesn't work for very reasonable reasons) and filth (d12 + 10% instakill, but checks sickness res not poison res) 22:13 <@luxidream> PSI? 22:14 player skill issue 22:14 <@Sig> Oh, interesting. I was wondering if I should just do this to the weapon now but looking at the stats I probably don't need the extra damage yet 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2225 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4730 22:15 <@luxidream> huh, you didn't make up that acronym 22:15 <@luxidream> never heard it though 22:16 !tell K2 fiqhack updated with minor bug fixes 22:16 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 22:17 !tell FIQ ok 22:17 K2: Message from FIQ at 2020-04-18 22:16 EDT: fiqhack updated with minor bug fixes 22:17 FIQ shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3039 points, T:4849, killed by a wolf 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism by consulting with the priestess of Loki, on T:7382 22:18 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 22:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 22:18 Vanilla added random vaults!!! 22:18 :D :D :D 22:18 <@ElectricPizza> šŸ˜„ 22:19 <@ElectricPizza> Hm, I sent a :D, but it didn't go through the rld bot 22:19 <@luxidream> random vaults? 22:19 I assume AntiGulp is referring to the term dcss uses 22:19 FIQ: Message from K2 at 2020-04-18 22:17 EDT: ok 22:20 Oh, yeah. I mean theme rooms. 22:20 No idea why they're called vaults. Possibly originating from ADOM 22:20 which had partial fixed layouts of some rooms which were actual vaults with monsters and treasure 22:20 Vaults is a bad term for nethack, since it already has its own vaults and they aren't affected by the theme rooms 22:21 extend the term further for fixed parts of room layouts in general and you get dcss "vaults" 22:21 <{Demo}1> at least u arent calling them tension rooms 22:21 aosdict: they really are 22:21 *it really is 22:21 I've also seen the term prefab 22:21 for them 22:22 theme rooms? 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1182 22:22 this guy spent way too much effort to make a bug report I feel 22:22 <@luxidream> I'm looking forward to seeing how balanced they are, I know some of the ones in unnethack can be pretty threatening 22:22 maybe it's just a workflow I'm not familiar with 22:22 oh well, I fixed the bugs he brought up 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1242 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1427 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1427 22:24 <@Sig> Why are all my weapons ineffective against a half-dragon mummy? 22:25 <@Sig> I thought blunt was effective against undead. 22:25 <{Demo}1> piercing is 22:25 half-dragons might have thick skin maybe? 22:26 <{Demo}1> oh that's also possible 22:26 <{Demo}1> I remember my last run switching from my slashing weapon to a spear to fight liches 22:27 <@luxidream> poke those skeletons 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] naidneelttil (Hea Hob Mal Neu), 285 points, T:1495, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 22:29 <@Sig> I figured it was something to do with half dragons. I'll figure it out. 22:29 @luxidream I believe the themed rooms now are pretty basic, just alternate shapes and stuff. 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Val Cen Fem Neu) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Odin, on T:12203 22:30 being a vampire, is there a way I can take advantage of a fighting a blood pudding? Or are they just horrible to fight in general 22:30 <@luxidream> ah, many of the dcss vaults often have interesting mechanics 22:30 <{Demo}1> I can't remember what zombies resist but it's either piercing, slashing, or blunt and I don't know which one (yes there are only those 3 options, idc) 22:30 <@luxidream> and are extremely dangerous 22:31 These are NOT supposed to be like dcss or ADOM vaults. 22:31 i will valorously use the oilskin cloak odin 22:31 They're part of the regular dungeon structure and connected up to it, not separated like actual vaults are 22:33 <@Sig> I found a magic vault with an eye of doom inside, how do I fight it? 22:33 <{Demo}1> that's one of the harder enemies 22:34 <{Demo}1> it'll fuck you up good and stack a lot of study on you and cast BAD spells 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10206 points, T:4806, killed by a carnivorous ape 22:37 what's a guy gotta do to get an artifact weapon around here 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9346 22:42 dk657 the higher experience level you are, the greater chance you'll get an artifact as a sacrifice gift 22:42 <@Sig> {Demo}: wonderful. So the answer is "don't try to kill it before completing Minetown"? 22:42 <{Demo}1> definitely don't 22:43 ahhhh 22:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] pagano (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10594 22:45 <@riker> sig: wand of death, wand of lightning will work 22:45 <@riker> but yes definitely wait a while 22:45 <@riker> lightnign should blind it if you can hit it, preventing the gazes at least (and mess with spell targeting?) 22:46 <@Sig> I think I've got a shockstick. Should I wait for MR too? 22:46 <@riker> yes 22:46 <@riker> shouldn't be leveled for nasties or death touch but i would not risk it 22:46 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 22:48 <@Sig> "Probably doesn't have deathtouch" isn't the level of certainty I wanna play around with, lol. 22:48 <@Sig> I'll just remember that it's there. 22:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:48 <@riker> i've never messed with them except when they're forgettable, sorry 22:49 <@riker> most of my early vault raids are things like iron golems 22:49 <@Sig> NBD What can be in a magic vault? Whatever's listed as on the wiki as a Magic Item? 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 469 points, T:1136, killed by a mastodon 22:50 <@riker> no, it's a bunch of random stuff 22:50 <@riker> lemme see the code 22:51 <@riker> 4 chests, each with 2d4 items, each item has a 3/4 chance to be magical armor (or an artifact even if it ends up nonmagical) , 1/4 chance to just be magical/artifact anything 22:52 <@riker> the items are created with normal probabilities but rerolled until one of those 2 criteria are met 22:52 <@riker> for an eye of doom, one chest will also end up with 2-3 spellbooks and 3-6 scrolls (all random) 22:52 <@Sig> Cool 22:54 <@Andrio Celos> Inuvik offers 22 gold pieces for your crude dagger. 22:54 <@Andrio Celos> Is it possible to recompile Vulture with NetHack 3.6.6? 22:54 <@riker> is it named grimtooth? 22:54 <@Andrio Celos> Nope 22:54 <@Andrio Celos> Just a plain old +4 orcish dagger. 22:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 235 points, T:413, killed by a bat 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Cen Fem Neu), 0 points, T:23, poisoned by a little dart 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21644 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3483 points, T:5527, killed by an elven dagger 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:14120 23:03 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:05 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 376 points, T:1996, killed by a garter snake, while fainted from lack of food 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:21265 23:11 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:888 23:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 685 points, T:1398, killed by a soldier ant 23:13 <@microlance> great lack of dps without dualwield, it feels like 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12060 23:14 <@microlance> i had no death wands tho, so that might be the biggest problem 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had a magical twisted staff entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:22296 23:21 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 44902 points, T:19583, killed by a touch of death 23:22 D: 23:22 AntiGulp: whatever changed in the most recent splice update made it WAY harder. 23:23 bouquet: ā€¦I havenā€™t updated splice in months? 23:23 Iā€™ve just been working on the develop branch. 23:24 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3899 23:24 !lastgame bouquet 23:24 AntiGulp: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/splicehack/dumplog/1587222796.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1576989832.nh.html 23:24 <@Sig> Ok the first time this happened I assume I screwed up the input somehow, but it just happened again: whenever I try to apply Atma, the game crashes. 23:24 well, mephisto showed up a burned me to ash in 2 turns despite fire resist. 23:25 and now a L showed up in the mines and touch of deathed me 23:25 Huh 23:25 and I caught some orcs rummaging through my unlocked loot chest 23:25 so rude! 23:26 <@Sig> It lets me restore to the last time I switched levels, which means I have the pleasure of doing Sokoban Level 4b again 23:28 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:28 the definition of variant paranoia is interpreting random chance results in a variant as caused by recent changes to it, right? 23:29 I mean sounds about right 23:29 That's *A* definition 23:31 <@Andrio Celos> The watch captain escapes downstairs! 23:31 <@Andrio Celos> Wow, good job. 23:31 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a crazy cactus, on T:4910 23:32 lots of people transforming into crazy cacti today 23:32 I canā€™t believe I was sober when I added ā€œcrazy cactusā€ as a monster 23:33 is it a reference to something 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:636 23:33 a quick google search finds only mexican restaurants 23:35 I got polymorphed into one! Did good passive damage 23:36 <@Sig> If I have speed boots can I get faster with a wand of speed? 23:36 <@Sig> Or am I already as fast as I can go? 23:36 Itā€™s not a reference to anything. The tile is a cactus with googly eyes though, which is neat 23:36 agreed 23:36 <@Andrio Celos> @Sig I don't think that works in any version 23:36 <@Sig> RIP. 23:37 it maybe will work in xnethack eventually 23:37 Speed boots give very fast speed by default 23:38 AntiGulp: so, did Mephisto always create a pillar of fire that ignored intrinsic fire resist and I never noticed? 23:39 bouquet: Yep. Technically doesnā€™t ignore it, just gets halved by fire resistance. Bribing him is usually a good idea, plus he grudges against Asmodeus. 23:39 he was at the stairs in Asmo's lair. 23:40 I must have destroyed him a lot faster the other times I've run into him. 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1065 23:41 is a L with touch of death in the mines not considered out of depth? 23:41 Iā€™m guessing polytrap for the L in the mines. 23:41 ^ 23:41 ah, prolly 23:41 Which is v. much a vanilla thing :B 23:41 Thatā€™s usually what screws me over down there :/ 23:41 <@Andrio Celos> They normally don't show up until Gehennom 23:41 cough fixes for that exist cough 23:42 don't fix it! It's got good flavor 23:42 I love those WTF moments in *hack 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 562 points, T:1111, killed by a pony 23:44 ^ Same, although I know many disagree 23:44 AntiGulp: what's on the radar for splice? 23:44 New role ;) 23:44 are you going more in a xnh or evilhack direction? 23:44 Cartomaster! Dragonmancer! Splice 'em together! 23:45 Amy: ^ 23:45 Uhhhhhhh I gues EvilHack? Vaguely? My own direction? 23:45 aosdict: I'm hearing Cartman singing "pig and elephant dns just don't splice" 23:45 Mostly right now Iā€™m trying to get the damn windows build working 23:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 672 points, T:1894, killed by a hill orc called Akhauna of Haiaiul, while frozen by a potion 23:45 xnh and evilhack aren't points on a continuum 23:45 no, more like x and y on a cartesian plot 23:46 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 6260 points, T:7483, sent to the grave by a bullet ant 23:47 is a penguin always the starting pet in slicehack? 23:47 Penguin is occasionally the starting pet in splice. 23:47 I keep getting a penguin. weird. 23:48 is it role specific - like wizards always start with kittens? I keep playing an infernal barbarian. 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed forbincol's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:23262 23:51 YASI: New "shining armor" object, is metal body armor much like plate mail but also acts as a light source. Lawful Knights who wear it get a Charisma boost. 23:52 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:53 shadowcat: Hmmmm, shouldnā€™t be. Should just be random. 23:53 Iā€™ll have to check in on that. 23:53 <@Sig> What weapon type is effective against pudding? 23:53 spoons 23:54 i've played maybe 10-15 games, and always gotten a penguin. and i didn't set it in my prefs. 23:54 Iā€™ll *definitely* check on that then. Thanks for letting me know! 23:54 <@riker> sig: slashing 23:55 <@riker> axe is that for lordly might 23:55 <@riker> i think i said earlier saber was slashing, and it is, but I forgot lordly is a rapier not a saber, so that will NOT work 23:55 no problem. :) 23:55 <@riker> if you inspect it, it shoudl say what it resists (which is blunt | pierce) 23:55 <@Sig> Ah, interesting. Ty, will build up axe skill a bit then. 23:58 <@microlance> a few step to close while earning money in minetown :/ 23:59 !lastgame microlance 23:59 Umbire_: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/nethack/dumplog/1587266086.nh.html 23:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5987