00:02 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Ran Hum Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayers dungeon wide on T:18197 00:09 is the pet-stuck a vanilla bug or evilhack? 00:10 Well, it's happening in vanilla. 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6010 00:10 devteam hasnt reproduced it yet, but we've had at least half a dozen reports of it 00:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu) ate for the first time - food ration, on T:3878 00:14 but no actual bug reports 00:16 i can fix that 00:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 10138 points, T:4457, killed by a dingo 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 320 points, T:1023, zombified by an orc zombie 00:22 paxed - bug reported (github issues section) 00:24 <@Suzune Takada> when nh 3.7 stable releases, it would be major version up like 3.4.3 to 3.6.0 00:24 <@Suzune Takada> many things are changed already 00:24 very much so 00:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1184 points, T:692, quit 00:27 K2: thanks 00:28 no prob 00:28 <@Suzune Takada> Q: Why no infernal convict in spl A: Infernal is "easy" race, so it decreases the difficulty of convict role 00:29 <@Suzune Takada> (?) 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5133 00:29 i'm trying to imagine a demon being thrown in jail and then escaping 00:29 K2: i'd not seen the mimic observation 00:29 paxed: i think that's the majority of the observations 00:32 <@Suzune Takada> werewolf convict exists because werewolf is considered "difficult" race due to their incurable lycanthropy 00:32 <@Suzune Takada> (same behavior as lycanthrope in slem) 00:33 Why is this game giving me so much armour I can barely carry? 00:34 its to get you into shape 00:34 'Body by NetHack' 00:34 Makes sense. 00:34 And the training kills 00:35 * K2 changes 'candy bar' to 'post-workout protein bar' 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7654 00:40 K2 totally getting that on a t-shirt 00:40 :) 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8718 00:50 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Wer Nbn Cha), 2229 points, T:3407, killed by a watch captain 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1429 points, T:2358, killed by a killer bee 01:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 4031 points, T:3501, killed by a rothe 01:10 -!- MaryHadalittle has quit [*.net *.split] 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8676 01:12 You fall into a pit! q - an aluminium wand 01:12 Nice try 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law), 16500 points, T:8743, killed by an ochre jelly 01:15 -!- MaryHadalittle has joined #hardfought 01:29 You don't say 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11984 01:38 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 28110 points, T:12703, killed by a gargoyle 01:44 Why do I feel like the bug is related to pets "sticking" on mimics somehow like a player would? 01:59 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Lun Met Fem Cha), 1727 points, T:371, killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted superjedi) 02:26 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Acu Met Fem Cha), 245 points, T:518, killed by an icy touch 02:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6402 02:43 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:43 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 02:43 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:54 The priest of Venus gets angry! The priest of Venus wields a mace! The priest of Venus kicks! The air crackles around the priest of Venus. You hit the priest of Venus with the chickatrice corpse. 02:54 Oof 02:54 Venus didn't even zap me 02:56 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:11 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:22 Chameleon zapped itself with a wand of sleep 03:29 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:31 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 03:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:508 03:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:40 !who 03:40 K2: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 [nh370] dbanethacker [nh370] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh370] 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1950 04:03 mobileuser all good 04:03 thanks 04:03 can resume whenever 04:04 no problem, middle of the night for you? 04:04 4am here 04:04 should have gone to bed a loooong time ago 04:04 so not early but late :-) 04:04 sleep well ;-) 04:05 thanks. i'll be up in 3 hours :) 04:05 gnite o/ 04:05 oh dear. see you later, take care! 04:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:2149 04:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] RasselK (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 849 points, T:1325, killed by a giant rat 04:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:2227 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2386 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] RasselK (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:427 04:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:29 Turn 26021 and I finally have a blindfold 04:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:38 Fountain quaffing time 04:38 -!- zjmc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:40 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 04:49 Totally didn't steal it from a shop 05:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:11 I'm immune to sickness - why? 05:11 does Sunsword do that in evilhack? 05:12 I thought it was only gold DSM that gave you that 05:15 Why is there an arch-lich? 05:16 shapeshifter? 05:18 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 05:18 Yep. 05:19 Too bad I have magic resistance. 05:19 And I hid in a trapper. 05:20 dammit, a hill orc just raided my stash 05:20 I forgot to lock the chest 05:22 F 05:29 oinkz 05:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:6093 06:02 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:48949 06:04 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:06 ²²³{³² 06:07 ²³/join #nethack 06:08 ²³/join #nethack 06:17 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 06:17 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest56323 06:17 -!- Guest56323 has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 06:17 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 06:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:4, killed by a bolt of lightning 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:341 06:26 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:27 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:49081 06:37 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 06:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1960 06:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1232 points, T:2624, killed by a yeti, while praying 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:333 06:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:420 07:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1379 07:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1449 07:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1301 points, T:1663, killed by a crossbow bolt 07:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:299 07:13 30k turns. no unihorn or boh 07:13 although i guess the no bag is part of the high turns 07:13 I found a BoH. Then a giant pushed me into lava 07:13 poof 07:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:494 07:13 luckily I'd just found it so I didn't have a lot of stuff in it 07:15 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:18 think i just found one off an npc 07:18 aren't they more rare now or something? 07:18 yeah, 1/4 chance or something now 07:19 oh ok. that's not too bad 07:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1038 07:21 dammit he had 2 oilskins 07:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1699 points, T:1159, killed by an orc-captain 07:26 my barbarian who died to the ice queen never found a BoH 07:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:871 07:27 I hope they are not too rare now, playing without one is slow going 07:28 if i get a wish and can get the eye it won't be that bad, but all this back and forth to my stash is tedious 07:29 and with all the traveling and being burdened, it is hard not to abuse dexterity 07:31 yeah. i know restore ability luckily 07:32 my barbarian knows nothing, not very smart ;-) 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1554 07:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 883 points, T:518, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:854 07:46 You hear a hell hound howling at the moon. 07:46 uh-oh 07:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6905 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2494 08:03 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 08:16 elenmirie - were you crowned at any point this game? 08:19 heya K2, thanks for taking the time yesterday to look at that giant issue 08:19 just saw the commit 08:19 hah i was typing you a msg 08:19 yeah you shouldnt have any more boulder weight issues 08:20 but there's still some significant issues going on under certain scenarios 08:20 it's a shame I am playing a monk, couldn't abuse it :P 08:20 i was up til 4am trying to figure stuff out 08:20 oh no, that's way too late, it's not worth the stress 08:20 luckily aosdict discovered the main underlying issue and gave insight on what to do about the boulder thing 08:21 is there anything you need to me to test while this game is still alive? 08:22 oh I can still abuse it a little... can wear tshirts and cloaks 08:23 muahaha 08:23 nah its all good :) 08:23 its easy to re-create now that I know whats going on 08:23 what triggers it? 08:24 if you're playing as a giant (or centaur, but you'd notice it a lot quicker as giant) and you enter a level with bones on it, and the player that left bones wasnt a giant 08:24 flags that determine your races' abilities get stripped away 08:25 i pushed a partial fix a few hours ago 08:25 so a bones loading issue 08:25 hmm not quite 08:26 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6bdf916f2b015ef8cbe26c01d33f8833cd6c3148 08:28 I see, a real fix would require breaking save files. 08:28 yup 08:28 which i dont have a problem with, i can role out 0.5.1 for junethack :) 08:29 just that all the things i tried last night... err this morning, didnt work 08:29 I am playing a Centaur, if I happen to find bones I will try to wear boots ;-) 08:29 i think you still wouldnt be able to. lemme test real quick 08:30 and i just had an idea for the giant size bit 08:32 hard to sleep when you think you are close to solving a problem, I know the feeling 08:32 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 08:32 hah my hunch was correct 08:32 nice! 08:32 centaurs not able to wear boots is handled elsewhere, not affected 08:32 <{Demo}> morning 08:32 heya {Demo} 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical square amulet on an altar, on T:3163 08:38 <{Demo}> ndnh updated on hdf yet so I can start a game? (honestly don't have time to play today, headed out to the middle of nowhere for a day or two in a few) 08:38 blah no, i was working on evilhack bugs 08:38 i'll get on it here real soon 08:38 like this morning 08:40 <{Demo}> did you ever get a good fix for the ice trees sorted? 08:40 yes 08:41 literally deleting one letter 08:41 poof fixed 08:41 that's a good commit message to code change ratio 08:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:47 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:57 hah got it 08:57 its super hacky but it works 08:59 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2366 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2485 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:2657 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4588 09:13 does this mean my reign of bug abuse is over? >:( 09:14 The werejackal plays a horn directed at herself! The bolt of fire hits you! Your boots smoulder! The bolt of fire bounces! The bolt of fire whizzes by you! The werejackal is killed by the bolt of fire! 09:14 That wasn't very smart of her 09:14 Evilhack updated (all servers) 09:14 amateurhour yup :P 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a winter wolf cub, on T:4026 09:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 premium heart", on T:5535 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Mal Law), 2480 points, T:4919, killed by a black unicorn 09:38 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:51179 09:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:00 OK arch-lich in sokoban. Centaur-barbarian, you are about to die. 10:02 Wow, two centaur jumps to the stairs kept me alive for now. 10:08 Andrio :-( 10:08 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:10 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1367 points, T:1491, killed by a quasit 10:14 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:51514 10:16 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3158 10:32 Hmmm. I dip a rusty weapon into a forge and there is no feedback message. Nothing happens. 10:33 third attempt: "You feel a sudden wave of heat." but no repair. 10:35 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:36 perhaps forges only repair armor, not weapons... 10:36 they only repair things like 1/5 of the time 10:36 aha 10:37 I'll try again. If instead a lava demon comes, it's time to run away :-) 10:37 2/30 bless if luck > 5, 2/30 lava demon, 4/30 repair metal, 1/30 explosion or lava splash 10:38 interestingly, the bless case will work on burnable objects though presumably they get burnt up right after that 10:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4541 10:39 thx aosdict! 10:39 got the lava demon, time to run :-) 10:41 I still see little upside to forges. they're primarily useful early on while things like rust traps are still problems, and early on you might not want to use them because the lava demon is too dangerous 10:41 also wow, the lava splash only does 2d6? 10:42 I guess later in the game you could take your metal gear and dip for blessings until it explodes? 10:42 or wait, with positive luck it won't explode 10:43 agreed, the forges are pretty landscape features but normally I ignore them 10:44 felt like trying a lucky dip today 10:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:45 so late game forge strats are to just dip for blessings until all your metal and burnable-but-fooproofed gear that you want to bless have become so 10:45 kill any lava demons that show up 10:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:10593 10:50 are there magical forges with friendly lava demons? 10:51 (in any variant) 10:51 doubt it 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:935 10:51 well, in evilhack the lava demon can come out tame 10:51 there's a tiny chance of getting a tame one in evil 10:51 but it's not due to the forge being special 10:51 same chance as a wish from a water demon iirc 10:52 I've not yet managed to repair a weapon in a forge 10:52 I always get a lava demon when I try 10:52 and have to run 10:53 in my first ever evilhack game there was a bones floor with a lava demon 10:54 think it was your bones elenmirie 10:54 anyway I tried taking on the lava demon 10:54 I'm not sure about this "repair erosion on burnable but fooproofed gear" thing, so I'm wiztesting 10:54 you can thank me later 10:54 it kept summoning its buddies, who summoned their friends 10:54 l - a very burnt thoroughly rotted tattered cape 10:54 lava demon party! 10:54 WOW this thing has seen better days 10:55 lol 10:55 Yes, my first experience was also lava demon & friends party 10:55 Couldn't visit the level for ages 10:56 lol my first forge wizmode dip gave a tame lava demon 10:58 So I had what's apparently four packs of orcs back-to-back 10:58 do water demons summon their mates? 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1505 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1531 11:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:11294 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1567 11:03 according to the wiki, water demons can summon. 11:04 One in 260 chance they summon Juiblex or Yeenoghu. 11:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Cha), 15700 points, T:8003, killed by a bolt of fire 11:24 that'd be a fun set of bones, lol 11:30 redoing the odds of certain things has kinda been on my to-do for forges 11:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 11:37 K2 I'm still wearing studded leather from before you made the fix 11:37 you have no power here >:) 11:37 take it off 11:37 :P 11:37 no 11:37 >:) 11:37 do it 11:37 DO EET 11:38 :P 11:38 haha fine I will, I know I won't be able to put it back on 11:38 lets see >:_) 11:38 - 11:38 "You feel so much more comfortable and free" 11:38 well that message is a lie 11:38 monk? 11:38 yeah lol 11:38 hahah yeah you dont want to wear body armor 11:38 but irl I feel uncomfortable and constrained by the rules of your evil game 11:38 the to-hit penalty is more more severe in evilhack than vanilla 11:39 oh, that's good 11:39 *much more 11:39 I always thought it a bit naff that people use weapons as monks 11:39 i'm free... I just.. I just have to DANCE 11:40 do you think there's anything left unfixed? 11:40 trapdoors are fine now 11:40 for giants no. the underlying reason why this happens in the first place still exists but i've done some super-hacky-makes-aosdict-cringe fixes 11:41 heh, I saw that 11:42 "super-hacky bit right here, OMG" 11:42 You commit! You push! aosdict appears to cringe. 11:42 :) 11:42 I guess in this case you're deaf 11:42 lol the general store in minetown has nothing in it 11:42 there are times i wish I had not fucked around so much in high school and stuck with programming classes 11:43 ah well 11:43 how do u know in that timeline u didn't end up in a soul-crushing webdev job 11:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:43 good point 11:44 and started slowly becoming more and more jaded with all things code 11:44 i decided to play in a rock band for years instead and party and stuff. oh noes 11:44 psh, imagine having fun and a life instead of prostrating oneself at the altar of technology 11:45 having fun was alright, but there were days I didnt eat. lived in my car for a few months. webdev job pays the bills :P 11:46 alex, i'll take 'I'd like to pay my rent please' for $600 11:46 I'm quite tempted by converting a van to live in, non-ironically 11:46 there's a certain appeal. total freedom 11:47 if you're single, not a lot to lose 11:47 except maybe a sex life 11:47 'hey lets go hang out in my van' 11:47 "hey girl, how about you come back to my place" 11:47 it's a van 11:47 down by the river 11:47 nothing suspicious there 11:47 lol 11:48 want to try convince work to let me go 100% remote 11:48 then travel and work 11:53 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:54 i think a lot of poeple that normally didnt telecommute but are now will keep it that way 11:55 can only hope 11:57 you know how everyone's amazed at the sudden improvement in air quality? well what's a good way to avoid going back to the way it was before? have people whose jobs can be done from home not commute 11:58 the air quality upgrade is my favorite part 11:58 and the lack of cars on the road if I have to go anywhere 11:58 I'm not intimately familiar with the skyline here, but there does seem to be less of a pall over manhattan 11:59 yeah, I'm wondering about the environmental impact, too 11:59 funny to see that we can do it 11:59 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1826 11:59 Traffic in my street used to be a pretty much daily thingy before the quarantine, now it's dead quiet 12:00 Tho' it would be nice if half the cars that are on the road weren't now going at fucking warp factor nine 12:03 its the autobahn everywhere 12:03 agreed, noticed a lot of drivers with dangerous behaviour here 12:09 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53184 12:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:36514 12:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on the Plane of Earth, on T:36514 12:13 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8602 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6774 12:16 ²³/join #nethack 12:16 No count allowed for this command. --More-- 12:19 ^more helpful than irssi 12:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9346 12:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:31 scrollback: amateurhour: I only use weapon as monk if i find grayswandir on the ground 12:31 one time i found in the persesus statue! that was too much to resist 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:8312 12:37 hah I remember that, that was great 12:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a mind flayer, on T:12021 12:52 !lastgame 12:52 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/ripley/nh343/dumplog/1587043759.nh343.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/nethack/dumplog/1587141712.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/nethack/dumplog/1587132580.nh.html 12:52 !lastgame microlance 12:52 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/nethack/dumplog/1587141712.nh.html 12:56 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3168 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3235 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 14769 points, T:10588, killed by a pyrolisk 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3292 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3336 13:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8303 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 99 points, T:115, killed by a falling rock 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1439 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Andrio's ghost, the former Reconnoiterer, on T:3783 13:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:12 Ms. Palm's House of Negotiable Affection -- A Very Reputable House of Disrepute 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9868 13:21 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:21 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 13:21 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:34007 13:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16130 13:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5118 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2982 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6076 13:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 40564 points, T:18500, killed by a flesh golem 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:27213 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:8068 13:56 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 13:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:05 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:23244 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:744 14:14 When stunned, it is still possible to jump exactly where you want to go. Convenient, but a bit strange? 14:27 when you discovered this, would you say you were stunned? 14:27 -!- nabru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 14:28 Only slightly stunned ;-) 14:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:28 I jumped for joy. 14:28 hah 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 856 points, T:2005, killed by a succubus 14:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:413 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 128 points, T:419, killed by a scroll of earth 14:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:36923 14:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Ogresmasher", on T:20794 14:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:36946 14:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:36974 14:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:36980 14:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:37015 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:37016 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:37033 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:37036 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:33127 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] jealkeja (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 396 points, T:874, killed by a gnome lord 15:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law), 2690248 points, T:37054, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bartlem/xnethack/dumplog/1586283934.xnh.html 15:01 contrats Bartlem 15:02 congo rats! 15:04 <@Pacra> grats Bartlem! 15:06 !who 15:06 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] kincle [nh370] Karnac [nh370] nabru [nh370] hyperion67 [nh370] tkirkby [slex] RasselK [un] woodstea23 [un] jealkeja [nh343] groovejumper [fh] BLARGO [xnh] | [hdf-eu] Hill [nh370] mosen [nh370] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5 points, T:89, killed by an exploding crystal ball 15:09 nice unique death 15:11 heh 15:11 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 15:11 helllo 15:11 "Cool ball, let's see what happ... OW OW OW" 15:11 hello 15:11 Hello nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:969 15:14 so, can a dnh binder get grandmaster martial arts? 15:14 do you have to bind two spirits to do that? i forget 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 274 points, T:1000, killed by touching Giantslayer 15:15 "This sword looks cool, let me pick it up... NOOOOOOOOO" 15:16 rofl 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:295 15:19 <@riker> porkman: yes 15:19 <@riker> eury & buer 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:729 15:22 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:53519 15:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 229 points, T:869, killed by a giant rat 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:375 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 263 points, T:380, killed by an invisible kitten called Charlotte 15:30 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53782 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:306 15:34 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:27950 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1283 15:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:44 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 63021 points, T:20962, killed by a captain 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1907 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2707 points, T:2233, killed by a hill orc 15:53 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:54 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:08 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law), 20267 points, T:11628, killed by a gray unicorn 16:10 giant rats can pick up boulders, that's funny 16:12 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:13 [hdf-us] [un] RasselK (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10551 points, T:9672, killed by a horse 16:13 K2 just to check, is that intentional? 16:19 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided weeping archangels dungeon wide on T:55739 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:19768 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:21682 16:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:3953 16:40 Super rat! 16:40 I hope it's intentional because it's funny 16:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ar1f0mhB4 16:41 wtf am I watching :'D 16:42 boulder lifting rat made me think of that 16:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2950 points, T:4766, killed by a gray unicorn 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 510 points, T:1497, killed by a gnome king 16:50 K2 very small evilhack thing, when I jump into a pool of shallow water it says "illegal", but it still works. 16:51 DON'T SPLASH IN THE PUDDLES YOU'LL CATCH COLD 16:51 sincerely, the government 16:52 Ha! The super rat thing is much more interesting of course, what is the government doing about that?! 16:53 they're turning a blind eye, the fat cats in government are too focused on collecting fuel taxes 16:54 there aren't enough resources to test every rat for being super 16:54 oh yeah? well where's all the yendorian fuel tax money actually going, huh? 16:55 well, it's being funnelled off in dividends to the shareholders of Yendorian Petrochemicals Inc 16:56 typical, they're all in the pocket of Big Oil 16:56 Do the shopkeepers have shares? 16:57 Those potions of oil are suspiciously expensive. 16:57 invented scarcity 16:57 look at the price of oil vs a beer these days, absolutely outrageous 16:58 I think we should open an investigation on the shopkeeper-super rat connection. are they dealing potions of polymorph out of the back room? 17:00 among other things... 17:00 there was even reports of a shopkeeper that framed a recent customer as a thief 17:00 by putting a portal to another realm hidden in their shop 17:01 scandalous! 17:01 the kops got there rather quickly, I'm sure they were in on it, maybe they get a cut 17:04 where do you think all those cream pies come from? 17:05 I hear there is also nepotism going on, some government official's daughter nicknamed ice queen is killing innocent adventurers, be warned. 17:05 lol 17:06 only to be expected, times being what they are 17:08 Welcome to Niknar Tap's mimic shop! 17:11 Elenmirie's mimic removal service, how may I help you? 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:393 17:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:530 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2966 points, T:1682, killed by a crocodile 17:29 The giant rat picks up a boulder (6000 aum). 17:29 lol 17:29 wtf is going on here 17:30 The sewer rat picks up a boulder (6000 aum). 17:30 oooh boy 17:30 are they stealing them?? 17:30 YANI: Steam vortexes leave a trail of non-poisonous temporary clouds behind them as they move, and when killed will spawn a bigger cloud on the spot they died. 17:30 The rothe picks up a boulder (6000 aum). 17:31 oh so it's not just restricted to giant rats? 17:31 no hahahah 17:31 i think i see why... sort of 17:31 aosdict, very good. also, a special room with a lot of steam vortexes inside: a sauna 17:31 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 17:31 they're just flexing 17:31 this is a fuckin riot 17:32 Muad: you're finnish right 17:32 aosdict, =) yes 17:32 I miss saunas 17:32 Elenmirie's Great Yendorian Gym 17:32 K2: oh I see why it must be as well 17:33 you made throws_rocks have an || Race_if(PM_GIANT) didn't you 17:33 yup 17:33 I once taught a lichen to deadlift a boulder 17:33 I should try to never die in this evilhack game, it's uncovering all sorts of fun things 17:33 needs to be && 17:33 lol 17:34 TWO demons? 17:34 K2: no 17:34 not at all 17:34 then regular giants can't throw rocks unless you're also a giant 17:34 then what 17:34 <@Tone> Muad: DCSS has a sauna vault. It's got a bunch of non-hostile draconians hanging out and an orb of fire enclosed in the middle. 17:34 <@Tone> It's a pretty amusing vault actually 17:35 let giant rats pick up boulders so I can imagine they're rat-like giants :^) 17:36 K2: well I'd normally advise against adding youmonst to these mondata.h macros but that bridge has been crossed already so 17:36 oh so the same for is_giant 17:36 yes? 17:37 (ptr->mflags2 & M2_ROCKTHROW) || (ptr == youmonst.data && Race_if(PM_GIANT)) 17:37 thanks 17:37 parentheses around ptr omitted because laziness 17:37 yup 17:38 so was everything able to lift boulders if you are a giant then? 17:39 yep 17:39 the grid bug picks up a boulder. 17:40 (the first & is actually && ?) 17:40 "The mountain nymph teleports, easily evading your clumsy kick." 17:40 NANI?! 17:41 literally teleported right behind me 17:42 wow, ninja mountain nymph 17:42 oops 17:42 <@riker> k2: just saw your commit message thing, was busy with a tf2 tournament thing, lol that's a fun bug 17:42 <@riker> the save/load code is really cursed 17:42 yeah 17:43 see my commits after the fact 17:43 ok gonna ride bikes with the kiddo, so enjoy monsters picking up boulders for a bit 17:43 have fun :) 17:43 aosdict thanks for pointing out the obvious (again) 17:43 <@riker> have fun k2 17:43 dunno why i didnt see that 17:44 * K2 shrugs 17:44 enjoy the ride with the ice queen! 17:44 back in a bit 17:45 ah were all monsters 'accurate' if you were a centaur? 17:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5980 17:47 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bone helm of speed, on T:20600 17:47 The werewolf jumps, easily evading your clumsy kick. The werewolf bites! 17:47 literally jumped over me 17:47 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 17:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 17:48 the dungeon denizens are taking the piss amateurhour 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 5359 points, T:3270, quit 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:79 17:52 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 32 points, T:147, killed by a dart 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:940 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1339 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2069 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:2094 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3968 points, T:4714, killed by a succubus, while praying 18:10 aaaand its snowing 18:10 !lastgame microlance 18:10 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/nethack/dumplog/1587152010.nh.html 18:10 you gonna let a little bit of snow hold you back? 18:11 no but i wasnt prepared for the windchill 18:11 wind pickin up 18:11 so we will commence tomorrow :) 18:11 one hand on the handlebars, one hand typing in irc to us 18:11 that's pretty cool 18:12 Surrounded with one escape item, mid AC and didn't make E 18:12 GG 18:12 !lastgame Luxidream 18:12 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1587160504.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 18:18 god so many things backflipping over me 18:19 K2 could the free kick that monks have not have that happen? 18:20 because you play a monk the monsters all do backflips now? :') 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:597 18:21 if you have master martial arts you do a kick attack when you hit with your fists 18:21 additionally^ 18:21 sometimes 18:21 not every attack 18:21 yeah 18:22 how are you missing with your kick 18:22 I have no idea 18:22 are you wearing body armor? 18:22 nope 18:22 this is that cursed game from before btw, so maybe something is still messed up 18:22 :D 18:23 that wouldnt be it i dont think 18:23 what feedback are you getting, can you show me? 18:23 most recent one just happened with a large dog 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2282 18:24 You punch the large dog! You spin around and back kick the large dog! 18:24 The large dog jumps, nimbly evading your kick. The large dog bites! 18:24 ah that 18:24 yeah if you're that skilled in martial arts, you shouldnt be missing like that 18:24 lemme see if i can fix this before dinner 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3096 18:25 3 things within 3 floors have done this, master in marts (not grandmaster though) 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4060 18:26 ah i see my commit notes from long ago. I did get rid of the 'your clumsy kick does no damage' if martial() 18:26 we can improve this a bit 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5094 18:27 do they get a free attack when they leap over? 18:28 can't tell 18:28 leap over? 18:28 The werewolf thing 18:29 And no, it just took its turn after 18:29 ok still... leap over? 18:29 after the jump message 18:29 they appear behind me 18:29 Enemies can jump to evade clumsy kicks 18:29 They "land" in a spot adjacent to you 18:29 ah right 18:30 sorry 18:30 Which yes, can include 'behind' you 18:30 That's a vanilla thing 18:30 50 diff things going on in my head at once 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5943 18:30 got it 18:30 my bad, didn't know that was a vanilla thing so just interpreted it as a ninja flip, haha 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5977 18:30 Not stopping you :B 18:30 i'm looking at that bit of code now 18:32 ok so 18:32 if (!nohands(mon->data) && !rn2(martial() ? 5 : 3)) { 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 388 points, T:1087, killed by a gnome lord 18:32 that means if you're skilled in martial arts, there's a 20% chance you miss with a kick 18:32 otherwise its 33% 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:84 18:33 and I already got rid of clumsy for martial artists 18:33 so.. we should negate the possibility altogether 18:33 *shouldnt 18:34 but, 20% is too much for grand master po 18:34 if it's possible to disable the jump I'd be happy leaving it missing 18:34 (for the 'free' kick) 18:35 i'm inclined to leave it in, but make the odds of it happening a lot less if you're kung fu master 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7087 18:35 I was in a 1 wide corridor, line of enemies approaching 18:35 could take them all 1v1 easily 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:426 18:36 but if half of them omae wa mou shindeiru behind me then that's not ideal 18:36 because then it's 2v1 with exit blocked for no other reason than I got a bit fancy 18:37 saw bruce lee on tv, tried copying it, surrounded and died 18:37 hmm yeah 18:38 lemme think it over best way to address 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:9144 18:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:413 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9812 18:45 then just don't get fancy 18:45 4head 18:45 at the least reducing clumsy rates is a good place to start 18:45 far as the jumping I think that's just a "pathing" fix 18:45 well clumsy isnt a factor, hasnt been for martial arts for a long while 18:45 at the least make it so they don't end up "directly" opposite you 18:46 at the most* 18:46 mixing up my phrases 6_9 18:46 the odds increase of missing if you do get 'clumsy' feedback 18:46 but there was still a chance to miss and have the target 'leap nimbly' away 18:47 it doesn't seem fair that a *free* kick can let a monster jump behind you? 18:47 one factor is if the target has a speed >= 12 18:47 so slower monsters, it would never happen 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1322 18:47 free ain't always free 18:47 I mean, diffrent story if you give a kick command 18:47 so i'm testing a change i just made 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1354 18:47 and I think that was just the werewolf getting their turn like normal anyway 18:47 feels like it anyway 18:48 vanilla, odds are 1 in 3 if clumsy, 1 in 4 if not. i added a bit, if martial, odds are 1 in 50 of the target evading 18:48 so lets see how that goes 18:49 (imo there should always be at least a small chance they can evade, no matter how good you are) 18:49 fair enough :-) 18:49 I really don't think there's any issue with the free kick missing 18:49 I mean maybe letting grandmaster be slightly better than master makes sense 18:50 it's just the monster displacement is a bit iffy on the free kicks 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:1573 18:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:51 i get it 18:52 i'll figure something out that's fair 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1832 18:53 I'm really quite enjoying whinging about stuff, is this the power the QA team at work feel? 18:56 once the beatings have subsided, yes 18:56 :) 18:56 lol the second I cleared this sokoban floor, a quantum mechanic picked up all the remaining boulders 18:56 but no its not whining in my opinion. its good feedback 18:57 and i love monks 18:57 oh, he picked up 9 and a tengu picked up 6 18:57 ^ this is fixed, just not live yet 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:13791 19:01 drank an uncursed potion of obj detection 19:02 in sokoban's prize floor 19:02 if I farlook at the tool prize, it says 'a bag called bag of holding' 19:02 the others say 'a sokoban prize [thing]' 19:03 does that mean the tool prize is already determined? 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 10768 points, T:10230, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 19:05 ok yeah... !rn2(50) for martial() is good i think 19:05 (that's what I named my informally id'd bag of holding) 19:05 been kicking the shit out of a bunch of dogs and leocrottas and such, havent missed yet 19:06 "been kicking the shit out of a bunch of dogs" - K2 19:06 amateurhour yeah it means you've already id'ed it 19:06 but its not quite supposed to do that 19:06 its low on my to-do it look at 19:06 I'll open a defect in Jira and assign it to you :^) 19:07 heh 19:07 ahh i finally missed 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2172 points, T:2581, quit 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 13290 points, T:4498, killed by an ape 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:777 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 3560 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Sipaliwini's general store, on T:11440 19:11 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1284 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 20080 points, T:11521, zombified by a human zombie 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 556 points, T:1224, killed by a giant ant 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 64 points, T:386, killed by a grid bug 19:20 !gt x 19:20 has evilhack been updated yet 19:20 to fix super rats 19:20 K2 is too busy kicking dogs 19:20 :^) 19:20 I kind of want to start a game but I don't want to deal with super rats 19:20 gimme a few 19:20 as a giant? 19:21 plus there are edits to includes, i dont like to update those when a game is in progress 19:22 do convicts start with bad luck 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:192 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 65 points, T:634, killed by a boulder 19:24 that one did 19:25 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:25 well they evidently don't start with bad luck but my prayer for food failed 19:25 alignment is super low starting out for convicts 19:25 -10 if i recall 19:25 hm can I get rid of my iron ball in a forge 19:26 no, its metal 19:26 so I live and die based on how much food generates in the first floor? 19:26 that first floor had no items generated at all 19:26 you live and die based on how resourceful and clever you can be 19:26 convict role is *hard* 19:26 in any variant 19:27 food time, bbl 19:27 gonna head to sleep, seeya 19:27 there's a difference between being resourceful and clever and living or dying by the RNG on the first floor 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:18167 19:27 "dying by the RNG on the first floor", aka Bouquet-Mode 19:28 oh, I think I can avoid ball-dragging hunger penalties by carrying it? 19:28 "oh! A Fountain! I sure am thirsty... why hello there mr water demon." 19:29 bouquet: death by feeling slightly reckless and drinking from fountains 19:29 I'm in that club, too 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2927 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:19098 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19101 19:31 hmm... so there's a lot less downside for a convict to fountain quaff on early levels 19:31 could get a nymph to steal your shirt and iron ball 19:31 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 436 points, T:756, killed by a werejackal 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 255 points, T:520, killed by a water moccasin 19:32 aaand sometimes that happens 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:20449 19:33 YASI: being able to play as water mocassin and having to kill adventurers that drink from fountains 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 833 points, T:2044, killed by a dwarf 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3087 19:34 hah, fountain strategy worked the second time, got relieved of my shirt 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 184 points, T:345, killed by a gas spore's explosion 19:34 [hdf-us] [fh] Nneu (Val Dwa Fem Law), 32740 points, T:2207, killed by a water moccasin 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:539 19:35 kinky 19:35 and there goes the ball 19:35 so now all I need to do is not starve 19:36 a... glass stethoscope 19:36 <@Sig> I wouldn't eat that 19:37 I wonder if that generates in xnethack because it shouldn't 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:329 19:37 the real reason I'm playing evilhack is to find object materials bugs in xnethack 19:37 ok xnh does not allow stethoscope 19:37 to be glass 19:37 wonder why evilhack does 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:402 19:39 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1635 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1635 19:41 Also worth noting the patch makes the iron ball an actual weapon 19:41 (that trains flail) 19:41 Or at least some variants do that 19:42 ok, now we are cooking 19:42 got rid of ball and chain, got food to not be hungry, managed to not die to things 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 840 points, T:1906, killed by a jabberwock 19:44 !lastgame nabru 19:44 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1587164959.nh.html 19:44 holy moly nabru 19:44 I'dve counted my blessings after the dust vortxy 19:44 vortex* 19:44 Assuming that was the first zap, otherwise that's just asking to die 19:45 Background: I killed a peaceful monster on the Minetown and the watchmen became angry 19:45 So I decided to try a wand of polymorph on them 19:45 This one is gonna leave some nasty bones 19:46 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:36977 19:47 just took a lavA did and entered gehennom. D'oh 19:47 Yeah, lesson learned 19:48 Polymorphing angry things usually just makes them bigger and angrier 19:48 Nothing wrong with just cutting and running 19:49 <@microlance> it became a +3 😮 19:50 lava dip* 19:51 who would have thought oilskin sacks were flammable ? 19:51 i think "when in doubt, run away" is the biggest thing i've learned from nethack 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:346 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9084 19:53 that's also not the worst advice in real life 19:53 just not when confronted with dogs 19:54 ack! it looks like Sokoban changed from the spoilers on the nethackwiki! 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 277 points, T:923, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:55 my ideal change to sokoban would be to delete it 19:56 the one i'm on is a mirror image of the entry on the wiki. 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22713 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1189 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 637 points, T:1415, killed by a piranha 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:37614 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:37615 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:37615 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Neferet the Green, on T:37618 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1874 20:01 lost everything in the lava but got the wand 0:3 at least 20:01 damn it. messed it up, like i knew i would. can't use the pick-axe because i don't have a bag to put my luckstone in. guess i'm not completing it. 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1981 20:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:4365 20:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Law), 9348 points, T:4366, quit 20:07 You can just put the luckstone down, shadowcat 20:07 As long as it's not on your person 20:07 duh. i don't know why I didn't think of that. 20:07 Bagging just infinitely less tedious in comparison 20:08 And all Sokoban did was add mirroring 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2066 points, T:2642, killed by a gas cloud 20:08 So its levels are slightly *less* repetitive 20:08 Only "problem" is you need to actually sit and think for about 5 more seconds 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 391 points, T:1661, killed by a giant bat, while praying 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 40 points, T:103, killed by a water moccasin 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a woodchuck, on T:10249 20:11 well, that got me out of my cursed chain mail...... 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 4092 points, T:3379, killed by a soldier ant 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a sewer rat, on T:3151 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:23458 20:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 700 points, T:2058, killed by a giant bat 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3220 points, T:3789, killed by a human mummy 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 30984 points, T:10919, killed by a xorn 20:21 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1073 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1580 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 364 points, T:1114, killed by a dagger 20:29 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:24845 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:24846 20:36 F in the chat for our dwaren bois 20:37 H 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "magic marker", on T:25443 20:40 aosdict: convicts also start with sick res, that's kind of a big deal in evilhack :) 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy ring of conflict", on T:26325 20:41 !who 20:41 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [evil] post163 [evil] davidkent [evil] krm26 [evil] eraserhead97 [nh370] JimH [nh370] Cropper [nh370] Luxidream [nh370] musicdemon [slex] Nneu [fh] | [hdf-eu] lacca [nh370] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 20:42 feelin' a convict zombie silly idea coming on 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:26663 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:26830 20:44 heh 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 420 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27104 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a succubus, on T:27604 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27620 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:27024 20:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Nneu (Val Dwa Fem Law), 53987 points, T:6196, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28272 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:28276 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:28303 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1014 points, T:2433, killed by a kobold zombie, while reading a book 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:28492 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:28494 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed gain level", on T:28896 20:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 5702 points, T:8389, killed by a troll 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +5 gray dragon scale mail", on T:27390 20:56 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1453 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1508 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:29704 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:29832 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:29842 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:1670 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "the blessed fixed greased +2 Social Justice Super Weapon", on T:29864 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1058724 points, T:29865, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1587161421.nh.html 21:01 gg 21:01 congrats! 21:01 <@luxidream> thanks 21:01 <@luxidream> that gave me an arrow btw 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1282 21:04 <@Pacra> holy shit 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 58233 points, T:27403, killed by a touch of death 21:05 <@Pacra> d:16 alhoon 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:38608 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1680 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1102 points, T:1970, killed by a gnome lord 21:10 <@luxidream> YANI: livelog for obtaining the castle wow 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2668 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:219 21:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:446 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:594 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:878 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 578 points, T:604, killed by a soldier ant 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:38887 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1007 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1026 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a nalfeshnee, on T:3361 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 540 points, T:1314, killed by a poisonous corpse 21:24 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:28 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:30016 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30017 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vigorix's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:2176 21:33 K2: yes I did chow down on some nice tasty zombies 21:33 until I chowed down on a dwarf zombie forgetting I was a dwarf 21:34 :) 21:34 i need to give convict a serious go. havent done that yet 21:34 I recommend quaffing early fountains 21:35 or dipping in them 21:35 that nymph made my die-on-DL2 game into a die-on-DL4 game. double the levels 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4085 points, T:4922, killed by a giant mimic 21:36 Tangles is one of our resident convict experts, when he's on next, should as him for pointers 21:37 convict might be a bit too much RNG for me to enjoy 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2581 21:38 man, where were all these lichens in my convict games? 21:39 uhhhhhhh 21:39 ok 21:40 incinerated a gnome zombie, now I have a lava demon pet. go me 21:40 heheh 21:40 name it Larry 21:40 YANI: non-chaotic Priests get punished for having demon pets 21:40 I have a relative named Larry and that'd be weird. think of something else 21:41 Rupret 21:41 brb 21:41 ... and the demon generated with a wand that makes bugs stop moving 21:42 heh, on their quest to end all life, the zombies took down a yellow mold they passed by on the way 21:44 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 1526 points, T:1899, slaughtered by a gnome lord 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2814 21:48 zombies hate yellow molds above all others 21:48 grimtooth in shop 21:48 the shopkeeper of which was promptly dispatched against my will 21:49 ooooh snap 21:49 aosdict, grimtooth is awesome in evilhack 21:49 but priest 21:49 I can't be edgy 21:49 ah i thought you were still playing convict 21:50 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 21:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 13452 points, T:8673, killed by a troll, while frozen by a potion 21:52 YANI: addition to the grunthack based pet satiation patch: pets will continue to eat treat food even when satiated 21:52 my basis for this: dogs 21:52 -!- shadowcat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 1009 points, T:2831, killed by a gnome lord 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2215 points, T:3681, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:55 <@Pacra> rip 21:56 holy crap the lava demon's wand was death 21:56 so if he hadn't been tame this game would have been over in short order 21:58 and a magic lamp, which I can bless 21:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:3957 21:59 hmm dragonhide gear... 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:40622 21:59 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:59 K2 I can still wish for a dragonhide cloak of magic resistance right? 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Mal Cha), 197 points, T:325, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 22:00 yes 22:00 though I may want to go with DSM since I'm already good in the cloak slot... 22:00 <@Pacra> dragonhide vs. other armor doesn't feel super balanced, in my humble opinion 22:01 not when it's wishable, yeah 22:01 <@Pacra> it feels like not having dragonhide everything for your ascension kit is a distinct disadvantage 22:01 but K2 thinks it's okay, and who am I to complain when I can take advantage of that 22:02 what are other candidates for dragonhide gear? gauntlets of protection? speed boots? probably not any helms... 22:02 @Pacra did anything even spam you with cancellation in your evilhack games? 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68750 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68752 22:08 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:09 YES 22:09 PORK'EM WORKS 22:09 \o/ 22:09 congration 22:09 Praise the Sun 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:68943 22:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5399 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:69229 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:69230 22:21 <{Demo}> bless yendor 22:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 5604 points, T:5777, killed by a Woodland-elf 22:24 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 481 points, T:1326, killed by a wand 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:42138 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:716 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:42451 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:1402 22:37 did not get the +3 22:39 oh wonderful, my lava demon Rupert is now wielding Grimtooth. now why didn't I think of that? 22:40 <@Pacra> haha damn it 22:40 <@Pacra> got my convict down to minetown 22:40 <@Pacra> but its orctown 22:40 Traded one set of bars for another 22:40 And they won't even be nice enough to give you an iron ball 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 778 points, T:1550, killed by a bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:44 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo5 (Mon Sym Fem Cha), 14952 points, T:3051, quit 22:45 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 772 points, T:2436, sent to the next life by an enormous rat 22:45 <{Demo}> damn still no update 22:45 sorry demo 22:45 its coming 22:45 before i crash for the night 22:46 <{Demo}> time 2 sleep 22:46 <{Demo}> or pass out 22:46 sleep welld emo 22:46 <{Demo}> not sure which 22:46 Aosdict, my artifact works <3 22:46 thanks for your help! and Ais123 22:47 one by one, i shall undo many slex nerfs that make the game a pain to play 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a leather robe on an altar, on T:6404 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Pacra's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2173 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:71418 22:58 heh, some lazy adventurer left grayswandir just laying on the ground near the oracle. 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:71571 23:05 this has been an incredibly hostile mines layout to actually getting anywhere 23:06 evilhack? 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:71654 23:09 I spawned in a small room full of water with no apparent connection to anywhere else 23:09 I mean, on the stairs. 23:10 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:11 why are these corpses in the ice box all rotten? false advertising 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:71666 23:13 aosdict thats a bug 23:15 No, this is the same thing that happens in vanilla and I don't think it's considered a bug 23:15 they're not tainted 23:15 just blecch rotten 23:15 which can happen to any food 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3163400 points, T:71683, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1586807588.nh.html 23:16 aosdict: one early convict strategy I sometimes use is #dip the shirt into fountains. You may uncurse it, or you may attract a nymph to steal it and/or the ball. Also read-test any early scrolls you find in case they are remove curse, destroy armor or enchant armor. #chat to rats because you have a better chance of taming them than killing them very early. Embrace the ball as a weapon. Once you 23:17 can #enhance flail skill it's actually pretty good, and the skill will come in handy later because you can #invoke the QA to punish yourself, then you can throw it to hurltle great distances depending on flail skill. 23:18 Eat all the zombies. You will never benefit from intrinsics or nutrition from this in EH, but they won't make you sick and the corpses will be gone. 23:18 huh, in like 5 convict games I don't think I ever saw a single randomly generated rat 23:18 <@Pacra> i forget if you can or cannot convert the orctown altar 23:19 <@Pacra> its unaligned, but not in gehennom, so... yes? 23:19 @Pacra you can! 23:19 <@Pacra> nice! 23:22 Actually, just eat everything (particularly if you're an orc con, so also have poison resistance) - except acidic things. Make sure you have full HP before going downstairs while still punished (and carry the ball rather than dragging it, I think this does less damage) 23:23 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 23:27 I noticed that I ate a kobold zombie corpse and didn't get poisoned by it. 23:28 (Why was I eating that? Well, I was starving and the game was relentlessly refusing to generate any food.) 23:29 Yeah that does happen. Finding your first food ration as a convict is always a good feeling. 23:29 I love how this lava demon pet is just collecting all the discarded projectile weapons and using them 23:30 Oh yeah also ration your food. You burn nutrition more slowly when hungry or weak, so wait as long as you can before eating if you have permafood. 23:30 !who 23:30 K2: [hdf-us] aosdict [evil] Pacra [evil] krm26 [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] shadowcat [spl] bouquet [spl] pagano [spl] karibou [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 23:31 [hdf-us] [spl] pagano (Pri Hum Nbn Neu) killed the Ancient Brain, on T:31204 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:156 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:810 23:34 <@Sig> Tangles, should a Convict start Minetown like everyone else or rush Sokoban for the permafood? 23:35 @Sig: Minetown is harder, because the watch are hostile, so sokoban is probably a better option. 23:35 <@Sig> I didn’t know that. What a nightmare lol 23:35 I think that is true even if you manage to get the shirt off. 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 222 points, T:399, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 23:35 {Demo} i'm working on ndnh update now 23:36 <@Sig> My only concern is that it’s gonna be impossible to curse-test any actual armor without a pet. 23:37 <@Sig> Or the temple 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:358 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1455 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:444 23:41 Also, getting rid of the shirt is only a priority if you can't find anything to wear over it before you need to visit a shop (but be careful not to wander into any shops accidentally or the shopkeeper will ban you forever - or at least until you have teleport control) 23:42 {Demo} linkto a change log for ndnh? 23:43 nm i see it 23:43 @Sig are you talking curse-testing as a convict? You get a pet rat to start (and you can easily tame others with #chat), but they are weak and usually don't last long. 23:43 <@Sig> Oh, I thought you started completely pet-less. 23:44 No you start with a sewer rat called Nicodemus :) 23:45 <@Sig> Cute. 23:45 Unfortunately you can't tame cats or dogs (or horses either, I think). You can still tame monkeys and apes with bananas though. That's probably a bug. 23:45 <@Sig> Wait really? 23:45 <@Sig> Every new thing I learn about this role makes it funnier. 23:46 well the monkey/banana thing is a general 3.6.x feature, and the convict patch predates it, so no provision was made to disable it. 23:47 <@Sig> I was talking about the no-taming thing in general. It’s really funny that you get actual zero to work with. 23:48 yeah dogs and cats don't trust you because you are shifty-looking. 23:48 <@Sig> Lol 23:49 <@Sig> Can you cover up the shirt like you can for the Hawaiian shirt? 23:49 Yeah, but if seen at any point same risks apply 23:49 For shops 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2907 23:50 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 23:50 -!- tepper.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ EvilHack 0.5.0 and xNetHack 5.1 have been released! 23:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 23:50 <@Sig> Right 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2955 23:51 !who 23:51 K2: [hdf-us] omghax [ndnh] aosdict [evil] Pacra [evil] krm26 [evil] Karnac [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Nneu [nh4] pagano [spl] shadowcat [spl] bouquet [spl] karibou [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 23:51 !whereis omghax 23:51 K2: [hdf-us] omghax [ndnh]: No details available 23:52 !whereis omghax 23:52 K2: [hdf-us] omghax [ndnh]: (Con Vam Fem Cha) T:6 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 23:53 [hdf-us] [ndnh] omghax (Con Vam Fem Cha), 4 points, T:571, killed by a jackal 23:53 ^ {Demo} that's 2020.04.16 23:54 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) had The Marauder's Map bestowed upon her by the storm, on T:7373 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1122 23:58 is there any significance to the wall paintings in splicehack? 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 399 points, T:1435, killed by a giant bat 23:59 * Umbire shrugs 23:59 shadowcat: just for funsies 23:59 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a crazy cactus, on T:7617