00:02 @Sig or just an everyday game of gnollhack 00:02 <{Demo}> yes aos, but you have to remember that comes at a price 00:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 3619 points, T:1934, killed by an orc mummy 00:03 <{Demo}> of not being able to invocate or ascend 00:03 <@Sig> All I know about gnollhack are the jokes people were making today, is that a feature? 00:04 <@riker> it's a bug 00:04 <@riker> oh, the coaligned altar is a feature 00:04 <@riker> the invocation thing is a bug 00:04 <{Demo}> evilhack had a bug where invocation was impossible 00:05 <{Demo}> but an epic one cause it meant you didn't need to invocate 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2840 00:05 <@Pacra> haha 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", on T:22243 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3053 00:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4604 points, T:2946, killed by a white unicorn 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:23022 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23023 00:11 <@Sig> Riker, that seems a little much. I think the scroll of consecration is a better idea overall. 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3170 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:24039 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24126 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:7687 00:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 994 points, T:1367, killed by a human zombie 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:25572 00:27 <@Pacra> ah, @riker , it's a krm26 ghost 00:28 <@Pacra> well, cancelled it, but no way I can defeat it in melee 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5627 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:26829 00:35 [hdf-us] [fh] Nneu (Val Hum Fem Law), 23715 points, T:1231, killed by a giant bat 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:17443 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:17514 00:41 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 00:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 00:42 <@Sig> You feel a deep sense of kinship to the corpse! Sacrifice it anyway? [yn] (n) 00:43 <@riker> why twoflower? not the master of thieves? lol 00:43 <@Sig> This is a hobbit corpse, and I'm a human. 00:43 <@riker> yes, they count 00:43 <@riker> don't do that 00:43 <@Sig> Weird. Is that a vanilla thing? 00:43 <@riker> no clue! but it's relatively reasonable 00:43 <@riker> hobbits are just short humans 00:43 <@riker> but with more hair & bigger feet 00:44 <@Sig> Fair. Thanks for the heads up 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:28576 00:44 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:45 <@Sig> Mother Earth doesn't care much for newts, it seems. 00:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 618 points, T:2963, killed by a brown mold 00:47 <@Sig> The damage on that thing 00:47 <@Sig> I thought I was safe 00:47 <@riker> yeah they HURT 00:47 <@riker> i don't know if dnh changed that 00:47 <@riker> but i don't mess with brown molds in particular 00:48 Smack them around with an aklys 00:49 Always never not ranged attack molds 00:50 Don't wanna take to many chances 00:51 <@riker> dnh akyls suck 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:29332 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:29392 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 420 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:29467 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:29766 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29975 00:58 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 20488 points, T:13798, sent to the next life by a bugbear 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31169 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:31176 01:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:17789 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:31189 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:31336 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:31340 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed gain level", on T:31950 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:32468 01:10 [hdf-us] [fh] Nneu (Val Hum Fem Law), 35312 points, T:2973, killed by a rothe, while praying 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:32617 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:32626 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:65563 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1125466 points, T:32659, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1587005098.nh.html 01:12 https://twitter.com/kurtruslfanclub/status/1250296510895407105 01:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:13 <@luxidream> I like how nethack is the logical continuation from p2w 01:14 you mean "ethically dubious" 01:15 <@luxidream> it's on the same y=x line of increasing difficulty and accessibility 01:16 sure, in the same "ethically dubious" quadrant, but nethack is more so 01:21 gg Luxi 01:23 <@luxidream> thanks 01:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible krm26's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:13969 01:31 <@Pacra> !lastgame krm26 01:31 @Pacra: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1586986254.evil.html 01:39 @?bat 01:39 bat (B) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 22 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Attacks: 1d4 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravisible 01:39 @?giant bat 01:39 giant bat (B) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 22 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravisible 01:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 1471 points, T:2289, killed by a tiger 01:45 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:45 <@Sig> Showed up at the actual Sunless Sea for the first time and moved too far away from the stairs before I realized it was swarming with nasties 01:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:46 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:50 -!- aioe has joined #hardfought 01:52 <@Sig> n - a golden band. What is this? Says it's armor. 01:52 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:06 Sig, did you find out? 02:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 114 points, T:332, killed by kicking 2 jackal corpses 02:07 I would think headband, helmet slot 02:07 <@Sig> It was 02:08 <@Sig> Also this game is gonna give me an aneurysm. 02:08 <@Sig> Is a polished shield always reflection? 02:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:12 In vanilla yes, in dNet 02:12 No idea 02:13 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 02:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 02:14 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 02:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 02:17 -!- theRaisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 02:18 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:22 -!- theRaisse has quit [Client Quit] 02:22 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:26392 02:32 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:34 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in] 02:34 -!- Dracunos has joined #hardfought 02:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:19767 02:36 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 1954 points, T:3012, done in by a giant mimic 02:38 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:42 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 02:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 02:44 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 03:02 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:09 Yay, slime molds 03:13 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- oleum has quit [Quit: Bye!] 03:18 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:18 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:18 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:19 -!- oleum has joined #hardfought 03:28 -!- aioe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:30 -!- oleum has quit [Quit: Bye!] 03:35 -!- oleum has joined #hardfought 03:37 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:38 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 04:14 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 04:17 -!- rsa has joined #hardfought 04:17 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 04:17 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest9393 04:17 -!- Guest9393 has quit [Killed (livingstone.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 04:17 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 04:24 The lynx turns into a master lich! 04:24 Oh crap 04:24 Luckily I have a cloak of magic resistance... 04:25 and cold resistance Andrio? 04:25 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2020-04-15 18:21 EDT: thanks for the screenshot. i've seen that before in testing only once. congrats :) 04:27 No 04:27 It's peaceful now though. 04:29 !tell K2 So you already knew about the stairs, good. Only once in testing? I should maybe buy a lottery ticket. ;-) 04:29 Will do, mobileuser! 04:30 peaceful shapechanger, that's a relief. 04:30 I already have two pets, so I'm going to leave it there for now. 04:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:50 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:07 aosdict: can you select/filter the YANIs by variant (or in other words, by the the words that have rectangle borders)? 05:10 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 05:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 05:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:11 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:20 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:21 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:47 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:11 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:12 Ooh, nymph dropped a smoky potion. 06:16 I sense lots of blessed object detection in your future 06:16 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:28 Hello Mines flayer. 06:35 Hm 06:35 tame mastodon called Marli 06:36 I don't want a pet hezrou. They stink. 06:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:25639 06:40 Andrio: try lavender pet shampoo 06:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:54 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 06:57 if you kill the rat king do you become the new leader? 06:57 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 07:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) destroyed the Legion, on T:26642 07:10 bhaak: Not currently, no. 07:19 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 07:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) was given Jinja Naginata, on T:26846 07:22 <@Suzune Takada> dnh is pretty different game from vanilla 07:23 mobileuser i believe I fixed the shambling horror bug you saw in ft ludios 07:23 K2: Message from mobileuser at 2020-04-16 04:29 EDT: So you already knew about the stairs, good. Only once in testing? I should maybe buy a lottery ticket. ;-) 07:23 that plus all the other little fixes from yesterday are live 07:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) was given Premium Heart, on T:26973 07:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:27172 07:35 Hi K2! 07:35 Nice work again :-) 07:36 I found the ice queen realm btw 07:36 prepping to go explore.... 07:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:31989 07:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32003 07:38 cute bundle girl realm ♥ 07:39 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 2072 points, T:2348, poisoned by a rotted hill orc corpse 07:40 <@Suzune Takada> generally, "balance" of too many things are too difficult 07:41 <@Suzune Takada> for example, there are some fighting games that have many characters like The King of Fighters or Marvel vs. Capcom 2 07:41 <@Suzune Takada> both games are fun, but both have bad balance 07:42 <@Suzune Takada> (just my thinking) 07:44 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Dwa Nbn Cha), 61 points, T:393, offed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 07:52 mobileuser awesome! lemme know how it goes and what you think. I believe you're the first player to explore the ice queen's realm 07:54 Will do while trying not spoil surprises for others ;-) 07:54 :) 07:56 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Dwa Nbn Cha), 1113 points, T:2520, struck down by a giant ant 07:58 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Dwa Nbn Cha), 118 points, T:539, inhumed by a jackal 07:59 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 07:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 08:02 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:07 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Dwa Nbn Cha), 200 points, T:662, sent to the grave by a giant rat 08:13 mobileuser do you have that screenshot still of the weird stairs? the link expired from yesterday 08:16 you gonna frame it or something? :P 08:17 well yeah 08:18 :P 08:18 yes I will upload that piece of art again ;-) 08:19 Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/442d37dee050151e8204a66fa41eb88d/evilhackstairs.png 08:19 thanks o/ 08:19 cheers! 08:20 looks like a feature for me :P for the record, that's how stairs have always worked in slex since the day I added irregular rooms 08:20 YANI: If a special level fails to load, the game does not default to 'making a maze' - instead, it loads a simple level, an open space with walls on the edges, with an average amount of random monsters and objects. It can be called the 'Bug Room'. 08:21 but what if the Bug Room fails to load? ;-) 08:26 @?mastodon 08:26 mastodon (q) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Attacks: 4d8 butt physical, 4d8 butt physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 08:27 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 08:27 oinkz 08:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8136 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 181 points, T:448, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:30145 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:10440 08:48 -!- murphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:49 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 08:50 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 08:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 08:51 The cool draught refreshes you. 08:51 This water's no good! 08:51 Now I don't know what to try to uncurse first 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for his first artifact, on T:10544 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:10544 08:59 K2: First impressions The Ice Queen's Realm: very nice "Narnia" feeling to the first level, lovely new frost/ice monsters. Will need to make the long journey back to my stash and hopefully identify some stuff to help me solve the first riddle. 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for her first artifact, on T:33034 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed Master Key of Thievery", on T:33034 09:02 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04 :) 09:04 mobileuser did you find the journal? 09:07 if it is in a certain container I first need to find a way to open it. 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 8 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33414 09:11 Ironically I know the right spell, but hey, barbarian, no chance :-) 09:12 EPI: spellbooks just randomly become faint over time even when you don't read them, and being on a lit square (either by being left there or by being carried by someone who moves through lit spaces) speeds it up. 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:67375 09:14 mobileuser its not in any container. it should have been easy to find right as you entered the branch 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:33527 09:15 that's too evil 09:16 oops, better have a better look then... after I get rid of that annoying lich 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 113 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33782 09:22 Ah. The lich had the journal :-) 09:22 hah 09:22 you'll want to read it 09:22 has a few entries 09:23 and thats all the spoilers i'm giving :P 09:24 very nice :-) 09:25 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:34067 09:30 irony: the thing that would allow me to continue is still in my chest because it is is heavy and I still have no BoH. 09:30 sounds like a riddle 09:30 where the answer is 'heart' 09:31 I'll give you words of encouragement to raise you spirits 09:31 you can do it! 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:13564 09:31 hehe thanks! 09:32 meanwhile I see that the thing I need is actually conveniently present on the level, doh! 09:32 man I gotta play evilhack again and try this out 09:33 \o/ 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 55074 points, T:13602, killed by a minotaur 09:33 !tell ais523 how difficult would it be to change the pathfinder to make monsters consider N-wide gaps of water as valid to traverse? 09:33 Will do, FIQ! 09:43 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2086 points, T:7371, killed by a crocodile, while fainted from lack of food 09:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:28574 09:50 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:52 YANI: some way (wand of polymorph?) to turn a mimic into the object it's mimicking. Doesn't work if it's mimicking a feature. 09:55 YANI: dipping royal jelly into a potion of water (fruit juice?) turns it into a jar of honey 09:55 to make it worth the ffort, eating a jar of honey gives some sort of benefit beyond just eating royal jelly 09:55 *effort 09:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:33361 09:56 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:57 going to google 'is honey vegan' and try to find some arguments that it is 09:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:33631 09:58 you're going to have a hard time find argument for it being vegan 09:59 what if it's ethically collected? 09:59 say, by an adventurer who just happens upon some on the ground 10:00 for nethack, this would probably be okay. 10:01 for reality, it's unlikely to ever happen, unless something catastrophic happened to the beehive 10:01 royal jelly or honey? 10:01 I don't think this is how honey works 10:01 to bee honest I'm not really altogether clued up on my bee husbandry 10:02 as far as I understand it, bees go buzz and honey appears 10:02 something to do with a queen 10:02 water + royal jelly != honey 10:02 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:02 no shit 10:03 its a YANI 10:03 if you actually had honey potions, you could perhaps find them in a beehive or something 10:03 maybe bees could generate the, 10:03 them 10:03 bees making potions? :) 10:03 indstrious bees 10:04 water + royal jelly != honey (bad) but fighting dragons and casting spells, thats ok :) 10:04 well, one is fantasy and one isn't 10:05 hahahah 10:05 acid + royal jelly = spicy honey 10:06 <{Demo}> can the wizard of yendor increase the weight of the amulet of yendor in vanilla? 10:07 no 10:07 <{Demo}> yeah no didn't think so, ok 10:07 afaik no variant does that 10:07 are you asking if he presently can, or suggesting that he should? 10:07 oh 10:07 it's a proposal I might implement at some point 10:07 <{Demo}> dnh has some code for it but from what I can tell, it isn't ever used 10:07 <{Demo}> it sounds incredibly dumb 10:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29431 10:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29434 10:22 There are several partially-coded ideas for making the Wizard more interesting/challenging, and yeah making the amulet heavier is one of them. 10:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) killed Bael, on T:34428 10:22 In terms of "do I actually think that would be a good idea?": 10:22 Meh. 10:25 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Ancient Brain, on T:41028 10:29 I haven't really found any wizard buff that I thought was definitely a good idea. 10:29 <{Demo}> it seems... cheap? 10:30 <{Demo}> forced encumbrance is just a paralysis mechanic in disguise 10:31 [hdf-us] [sp] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:6192 10:32 <{Demo}> some wizard buffs could be interesting though 10:32 Well, it would require you to choose between more junk and a buffer against amulet weight. 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1812 points, T:1721, killed by a piranha 10:32 And maybe burn through remove curse scrolls or holy water stocks or something. 10:32 But yeah, I'm not really sold on it. 10:34 <{Demo}> an imprison monster spell could be interesting 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34714 10:34 <{Demo}> where you suddenly find yourself surrounded by iron bars 10:35 dNh in general has about 1 billion bosses, only a few of which are actually dangerous in a fight, and only a few of *those* are dangerous in a way that makes them "interesting" to fight. 10:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) killed Daemon, on T:34827 10:36 [hdf-us] [sp] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 52489 points, T:6707, killed by a giant mummy 10:36 <{Demo}> yeah, armor shredding isn't interesting , but it is dangerous 10:36 Yup 10:37 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:37 <{Demo}> wonder how bards vs riders fair 10:37 <{Demo}> from what I can tell, riders are REALLY good at killing pets 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 190 points, T:776, killed by a gnome 10:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35260 10:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34575 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34583 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5378 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:5378 10:50 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5674 10:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:35557 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2957 points, T:4612, killed by a white unicorn 10:58 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 11:06 The water nymph steals a cursed +2 orcish helm! 11:06 Hm 11:17 Ha! Soldier ant showing up while I was burdened didn't kill me this time! 11:18 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3565 points, T:3837, killed by a kitten 11:21 nice 11:21 so, cursed +2 orcish helm or uncursed +0 dwarvish help? 11:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] BLARGO (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2889 points, T:2296, killed by a bolt of cold 11:23 I'd take the dwarven helm 11:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38120 11:28 [hdf-us] [slshm] DuderTudor (Bar Elf Mal Neu), 2142 points, T:1634, quit 11:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] DuderTudor (Und Hum Mal Law), 71 points, T:21, killed by a gas cloud 11:31 Andrio yeah dorf helmet 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2690 points, T:2589, killed by an owlbear, while praying 11:33 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:33 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:38187 11:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] DuderTudor (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 496 points, T:895, killed by a giant bat 11:41 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:41 Hmm 11:41 You see here a figurine of a fog cloud. 11:41 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:38381 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36184 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:36186 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:36200 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:917 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 311 points, T:1057, killed by a gnome 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:36320 11:48 wait what just happened 11:48 I fell down the stairs into the gnomish mines 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:36331 11:49 and now I'm overtaxed 11:49 were you riding something? 11:49 nope 11:49 I'm a giant, wasn't burdened 11:49 maybe you hurt yourself falling 11:49 how did I fall? 11:49 oh, good point 11:50 my inventory is 18425 in weight 11:50 K2 11:50 low dexterity? (just guessing) 11:50 13 dex 11:50 not that 11:50 hm 11:50 18458/825 weight 11:50 lol 11:50 wut? 11:51 in evilhack you can see the weight of your inventory 11:51 I know, but 18458/825? 11:51 <@riker> boulders 11:51 somehow I am carrying 18425 weight, and my carry capacity is 825 11:51 <@riker> they be kinda heavy tho 11:51 boulders only weight 8 as a giant 11:51 that sounds like some sort of bug 11:51 <@riker> could they be displaying as the appropriate amount? 11:52 <@riker> *normal amount 11:52 <@riker> try dropping all the boulders and see how much? 11:52 boulders are weight 6000 usually, so you're right that it's the boulders 11:53 but how did the boulders go from 8 weight to 6000 just by going down some stairs 11:53 A snowball boulder 11:54 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 11:54 this is a bones floor if that matters 11:54 <@riker> huh 11:55 K2 do you want to remote in and check it? I suspect saving and reloading would fix it 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:36970 11:59 hey 11:59 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 11:59 sorry amateurhour work pulled me away 11:59 no worries, I'm not in any sort of rush 11:59 interesting bug is interesting 11:59 yeah 12:00 i think i've seen this in a couple of my games, weight suddenly changing 12:00 but not like yours 12:00 You know how shriekers can summon baby purple worms now? 12:00 Well one just showed up 12:00 hey, what you saying about my waistline 12:00 better than a purple worm 12:00 I'm not exercising as much because of coronavirus ok 12:01 'do these pants make my butt look big?' 'no, your butt makes your butt look big' 12:01 "You fall down the stairs. You suddenly become fat!" 12:01 mm 12:01 ^^ probably a slex feature 12:01 amateurhour i'm watching 12:01 I have the message history up so you can see it happened just by going downstairs 12:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:39622 12:02 and the invent so you can see the total weight 12:02 over there is hothraxxa's ghost in case that somehow matters 12:02 one sec 12:03 amateurhour can you go into settings and enable 'showeight' 12:03 or however its labeled 12:03 yeah 12:04 wooo 12:04 it's the boulders 12:04 ok brb 12:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a gold concave amulet on an altar, on T:3153 12:06 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:06 ok back 12:06 wow 12:06 i wonder why its dropping the weight value all of a sudden 12:07 amateurhour this happened when you went down the stairs? 12:07 yeah 12:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Death, on T:39797 12:07 can i see your message backlog? 12:07 ok so 12:07 this is the first floor of the mines 12:08 you issue command to go down the stairs... and all of the sudden you're overtaxed 12:08 sound right? 12:08 yeah 12:08 ok. i'm on it 12:08 this is not a minor bug 12:08 in case it matters I did _> to travel to the stairs 12:08 heh 12:08 ok 12:08 curious, save/reload 12:08 wanna see what happens 12:08 oof 12:09 still burdened, I assumed that would fix it but no 12:09 drop the boulders? 12:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:09 pick them up again? 12:09 yeah 12:09 can't lift them, then a gnome destroyed them 12:09 top kek 12:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:39860 12:09 <@riker> F 12:09 its like you're no longer a giant 12:10 giant monk called amateurhour 12:10 yeah i see 12:10 how weird 12:10 where's the actual code that makes boulders weigh less for giants 12:10 ok. i'll review the commit i did when i added weight to boulders for giants, see if i missed something 12:10 conduct says 'never changed form' 12:11 aosdict - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3be54b48c6e6f477e09ff49cc927418ab9214f39 12:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:39932 12:12 I'm not really sure that last else if needs to be anything other than a plain else, but that's beside the point 12:13 again just in case it matters this is a bones floor, with hothraxxa's remains 12:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Neu), 5984644 points, T:39960, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1586921542.dnh.txt 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:38095 12:13 gratz malor!! 12:14 <@malor> thanks 12:14