00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible davidkent's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:1986 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:649 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu), 2834 points, T:2236, killed by Mr. Annootok; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:1614 00:10 [hdf-us] [fh] Nneu (Val Hum Fem Law), 35411 points, T:3664, zombified by an elf zombie, while frozen by potion vapours 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:2067 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3140 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3168 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3187 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu), 426 points, T:934, killed by a dwarf 00:24 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:4100 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4298 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a green mold, on T:5847 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5893 00:35 FIQ: do a PRs if you have monster AI improvements... 00:35 -a 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 9649 points, T:6096, killed by an Aleax 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed hyperion67's ghost, the former Digger, on T:4647 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4844 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4894 00:52 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Blackbeard's Ghost, on T:36874 00:52 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36875 00:53 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:36881 00:54 I think 36k is the longest I've gone before giving up and wishing for a a =oSD as a vampire. 01:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:08 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) genocided class d, on T:37687 01:12 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) was granted the title of "Pirate King" by the storm, on T:37729 01:19 anyone know how to get the treasury of proteus to polymorph an item? 01:19 Does it have to be cursed to work? 01:20 I'll I've been able to get it to do is "disappear" an item. 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33784 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33787 01:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:35879 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:33803 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Fem Law), 8382 points, T:6946, killed by an orc-captain 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:33905 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:33922 01:51 <@Sig> Can I feed a horse while I'm riding it? 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:34556 02:01 Sig, drop food on the ground 02:02 <@Sig> Ty 02:03 <@Sig> That didn't work, do I have to do something else? 02:03 make sure it's food that horses like 02:03 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:03 <@Sig> It was a sheaf of hay, he's eaten it before 02:04 Was he starving? 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:35667 02:05 <@Sig> I don't know. He's just starved randomly before so now I throw food to him every time I think of it. 02:05 hm 02:06 What pet? 02:06 <@Sig> My plan was to do all of Sokoban while riding him to enhance riding and keep him from going feral, since he's a warhorse and I'm only level 5. 02:06 <@Sig> Horse 02:07 Sounds like they should favor hay then 02:07 You also want to feed them vegetarian stuff one at a time 02:07 They get much more nutrition from it due to their diet 02:07 <@Sig> I'm just dropping one sheaf Interesting 02:07 Outside of that, dunno what else to consider 02:08 <@Sig> Oh, do ridden animals have the same "don't walk on cursed items" thing as unridden ones? 02:09 No 02:09 <@Sig> Ty 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:35755 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35763 02:11 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Curate, on T:37352 02:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:36077 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:36087 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:36128 02:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:36176 02:25 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2252272 points, T:36194, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1586651248.nh.html 02:30 GG! 02:30 <@Sig> Congrats, eraserhead 02:30 4 Horsemen% 02:30 :D 02:32 <@Sig> They call me Mr. Cheats at Sokoban and Still Screws It Up Back to the mines to get a pickaxe. 02:33 <@Sig> A dwarf just outside of Sokoban made a donation, we're back 02:40 evil patch idea: a monster with a ranged steal attack 02:45 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 02:55 Well I managed to get it to boot a linux kernel to command line \o/ 02:58 'I'm Klodzko, not Scammer.' 03:18 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:19 what's xnethack's design philosphy in a nutshell? 03:20 for that matter, what is evilhack's? "being evil" is already claimed by google 03:21 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:22 -!- joes has quit [Client Quit] 03:29 <@microlance> i experienced something truly evil just a few minutes ago. i fell through the floor in minetown and i ended up on a dark level with no light source and only me and a nymph alive while i was looking for an exit/killing the nymph 03:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29 <@microlance> playing human so no dark vision 03:30 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 03:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5051 03:40 -!- nengel is now known as attie 03:40 <@microlance> if only that nymph hadnt stolen my shield of reflection 03:41 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Mal Cha), 12696 points, T:4247, killed by a monster (grab tentacler of Moloch), while sleeping 03:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:47 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Red Mal Cha), 26 points, T:344, killed by a scroll of genocide 03:50 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Mal Cha), 54 points, T:333, zapped himself with a wand 03:52 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Mal Cha), 556 points, T:423, killed by an orcish spear 03:54 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Mal Cha), 28 points, T:57, killed by a monster (water demon) 04:00 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Fem Cha), 437 points, T:638, killed by a monster (normal ant) 04:06 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Red Fem Cha), 157 points, T:366, killed by a system shock 04:10 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Red Fem Cha), 223 points, T:215, killed by a monster (green cat zombie) 04:11 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Mal Cha), 52 points, T:15, killed by strangulation 04:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:58 Turn 117 GWTWOlightning 05:01 Gnome with the wand of L 05:01 Though it was a goblin actually. 05:03 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:06 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 05:06 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:16 <@microlance> lvl 7 monk wish with no weapon yet, is too early to get the DSM? 05:17 Probably. 05:17 You need max luck to be able to effectively use dragon scale mail. 05:18 If you have that, silver dragon scale mail would be good. 05:19 Though I'm not sure if you don't have a weapon 05:23 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:29 -!- rsa has joined #hardfought 05:37 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:37 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 05:37 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:50 Hm... Two 'Saved by the bell's on the same level 06:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 2837 points, T:3836, killed by a hobbit 06:41 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:54 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2544 07:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:08 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:17 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:19 [hdf-us] [slex] musicdemon (Dru Agg Mal Cha), 23212 points, T:6778, killed by a monster (air elemental), while panic digging 07:25 [hdf-us] [slshm] rad (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1516 points, T:2879, zapped herself with a spell 07:25 -!- nabru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 127 points, T:376, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:48 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:58 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 08:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Cloak of the Unheld One", on T:4969 08:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:12 [backscroll] bhaak - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/README 08:17 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 hawaiian shirt", on T:44382 08:29 -!- nabru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:275 08:31 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 08:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:659 08:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:480 08:41 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2173 08:49 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 346 points, T:936, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:40123 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40164 08:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8363 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1460 points, T:2811, killed by a tengu 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3811 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3831 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:321 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3909 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 22 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:3921 09:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:11 [bhaakscroll] the most nutshell way to put xnethack's design philosophy is "address systemic issues in vanilla" 09:12 wewt! just got travis-ci working and it passes 09:13 needed some nudges in the right direction (thanks bhaak) but during this process, found and fixed a few small bugs 09:13 ^ evilhack 09:13 <@Torpid> nice 09:14 bhaak: I could add qualifiers to it, like "address systemic issues in vanilla in a tight way without adding much new stuff", but I could go on adding qualifiers until it's a whole paragraph 09:14 i could probably update my readme a bit 09:18 I feel like "address systemic issues" nicely folds in three of the four main goals I put on the wiki page (fix balance issues, eliminate tedium/frustration, make uninteresting parts more interesting) 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:695 09:26 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: NAE TROOSERS] 09:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:793 09:30 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1873 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:13829 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 75683 points, T:13846, killed by an invisible ogre, while sleeping 09:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:11388 09:39 aosdict: everything under 80 characters is small enough for a nutshell :) 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1231 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1311 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:49690 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 89 points, T:464, killed by a jackal 09:57 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 09:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:6426 10:08 not on purpose, my pet did it :^) 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3604 10:11 -!- HumbertC has joined #hardfought 10:12 Hello, I'm trying to edit my config file for nethack 3.7 on the site, but it keeps saying that I do not have a config file. I already made a character and saved it 10:12 "You don't seem to have an rcfile. You cannot save these changes. You need to log in to hardfought.org first!" 10:12 I seem to have one here: https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HumbertC/nethack/ 10:13 hi HumbertC 10:13 the web based editor works on the US server. can edit there, then via dgl can pull it over to the eu or au servers 10:13 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 5686 points, T:7464, killed by a Woodland-elf, while dressing up 10:13 Ah, thank you 10:14 no prob. if you need help with anything else, feel free to ask 10:14 Will do! 10:15 you'll want to start a game and save on the US server so the web editor has something to use 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3419 points, T:3894, killed by a killer bee 10:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:34 I'm trying to use a config from a tutorial video I watched, but it does not look quite similar 10:35 Video:https://gyazo.com/486e6c4c12ece35084e82fc02e25463f 10:35 My game: https://gyazo.com/838b6fa93af8ffec1da551c13971af44 10:35 His config 10:35 https://pastebin.com/SUMdf8eu 10:35 Any clues what might be configured wrong? 10:37 HumbertC: i think there's an option you need to change in putty for the walls to show up right in the curses display 10:37 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/PuTTY 10:37 "To make IBMgraphics work with PuTTY, ..." 10:38 HumbertC, you can't resize your terminal window after dgamelaunch has loaded; it won't work if you do. 10:38 Also try setting the encoding to CP437 10:43 i hate dgamelaunch for that. So. Much. 10:44 Do you guys advise another client than putty\ 10:45 OpenSSH worked well. 10:45 doesn't windows 10 have an ssh client now 10:45 Does it? 10:46 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/heres-how-to-enable-the-built-in-windows-10-openssh-client/ 10:47 yeah you can use the windows 10 command prompt and just ssh in 10:47 or this rather https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh_install_firstuse 10:47 however, i stringly recommend using putty 10:47 strongly even 10:47 stringly recommended, that's not very typesafe :^) 10:47 heh 10:48 The graphics work now, thank you 10:49 Now to get the game full screen and I can play haha 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5035 10:50 alt+enter 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:5120 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:328 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for his first artifact, on T:5335 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:5335 11:03 bhaak: here's your 77 character nutshell version then which contains all four things in the list: "fix balance issues, eliminate frustration/tedium, improve boring parts, YANIs" 11:04 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Abu Clk Fem Cha), 253 points, T:411, killed by drinking cyanide 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:950 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] forbincol (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 11139 points, T:6246, killed by a leocrotta 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed potions of invisibility", on T:77196 11:07 hmmm. someone wants to be aggravating 11:07 a shark out of water in vanilla, maybe a chameleon? 11:07 almost surely 11:08 it left a shark corpse 11:08 not a chameleon corpse 11:08 HumbertC: i prefer kitty to putty. it's a putty fork with more features 11:08 then watch oout for a poly trap 11:08 I prefer ssh in a sane OS, it's like ssh from windows but more sane :^) 11:09 a sane os... so it is your contention that such a thing exists 11:09 hah 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:475 11:10 @k2 Alt enter makes putty large but nethack wont size up aswell. I tried adding map_mode:fit_to_screen and fullscreen, but both dont seem to work 11:10 What am I missing? 11:11 i started out as what we called a systems programmer back in the day (where day == 1969). means you maintained the os. i have worked with literally dozens of operating systems. i have never ever encountered a sane os 11:11 <@Tone> HumbertC: Try setting Window/Translation/Remote character set to CP437, and Window size to something like 126x34 11:11 dgamelaunch doesn't like being resized after being launched 11:11 <@Tone> Under the window option you can also set it to resize the font when you resize the window 11:11 <@Tone> which you might prefer 11:11 under 'window' put a check next to 'change the size of the font' 11:11 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:11 in putty settings 11:12 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:13 Ah yes, I found it, thanks K2 and rld 11:13 Time to die 11:13 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:14 -!- 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points, T:3467, killed by a jaguar 11:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 yellow dragon scale mail", on T:14015 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1189 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 761 points, T:1301, killed by a dwarf 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 42 points, T:98, killed by an incubus 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:52695 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:77683 11:39 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:60376 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:77704 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:52750 11:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:60947 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 293 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23953 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8632 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:23997 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:77890 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 200 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24080 11:50 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:61006 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:24396 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:24397 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:56290 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:24553 12:02 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 12:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:15650 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5530 12:04 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:45544 12:05 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) had The Marauder's Map bestowed upon him by the storm, on T:4608 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:24757 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5728 12:12 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 12:13 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:13 hi 12:13 Hello porkman, Welcome to #hardfought 12:16 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:5073 12:16 \o 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 513 points, T:1823, killed by a little dog 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:25452 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:25453 12:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1184 points, T:2049, killed by a black pudding 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:25712 12:26 so illithids can genocide mind flayers and master mind flayers. neat! 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:25816 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:25819 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 752 points, T:1270, killed by a coyote 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:443 12:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:15651 12:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:16895 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a mace bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:57132 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:13078 12:34 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5731 12:35 I don't have reflection or a blindfold/towel by the time I'm at medusa 12:35 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 83599 points, T:13315, drowned in a pool of water by an electric eel 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Ardub's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:19720 12:37 can't I just shut my eyes :( 12:38 amateurhour skip Medusa until after you get castle wand. 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53256 12:38 wand of lightning works but i don't think i'd risk it 12:38 or camera 12:38 yeah that's what I'll have to do I think, skip them I mean 12:38 cream pie? 12:38 don't trust myself enough to risk it 12:39 potion of blindness 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:27213 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) averted death, on T:40103 12:39 even blessed is 125 turns minimum 12:39 also medusa doesn't resist a wand of death, if you have one 12:40 <@Pacra> @AMateurhour command yourself to shut your eyes? what do you think this is, Incursion? ;] 12:40 <@Pacra> o dear 12:40 <@Pacra> that parsed to someone different than amateurhour in discord 12:41 poke yourself in the eye 12:41 twice 12:41 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:41 if I wand of digging down next to water, does that work or does it create a pool? 12:41 I know digging with a pickaxe would just put me in water 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:40151 12:43 I think it does 12:43 and if there's lava instead, it kills you 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:27366 12:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:27394 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:27400 12:46 Chris_ANG: Thanks. I've gotten to him three times as a Binder and he's killed me every time. I generally have Eden bound so I can stargate out, but that doesn't seem to work super well, considering it takes him with me and his Summon nasties can fill up the level pretty quick. I got nuked with 3 trumpet archons (which I managed to kill), but he ended up trapping me and his minions killed me in 12:46 Sokoban. 12:47 Chris_ANG: He's weak to paralaysis, though ? 12:47 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by the storm, on T:6466 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Mal Law), 1511796 points, T:27416, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Cropper/nethack/dumplog/1586668097.nh.html 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:38622 12:51 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) had Sonicboom bestowed upon him by the storm, on T:6610 12:55 Kaboom! Boom! Boom! 12:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:17804 12:58 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:39434 12:59 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 2230 points, T:916, killed by a goblin 13:06 bouquet: in my "all-by-slex" junethack run, my unnethack game =oSD was made of silver 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:389 13:06 *all-but-slex 13:06 I was a vampipre 13:07 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 45749 points, T:12327, killed by a sergeant 13:07 oof. 13:08 Splice doesn't include the silver-cause-harm-to-player-vampire stuff which is counter intuitive to me. 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 586 points, T:1133, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 490 points, T:791, killed by a gnome lord 13:08 while elves are still unable to wear/wield iron. 13:10 !tell AntiGulp why can spl vampire players use silver items for things that elven players can't do with iron? 13:10 Will do, aosdict! 13:11 I brought it up but there were "reasons" 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1412 13:14 right now I'm playing a vampire pirate and my off-hand weapon is a silver rapier. I shouldn't be able to wield it but I can in Splice. 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1063 points, T:1571, killed by an invisible wererat 13:14 <@riker> bouquet: I'm guessing infernal overlap 13:19 can infernals use silver? 13:21 they oughtn't 13:23 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 13:23 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:57909 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 232 points, T:984, killed by an incubus 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 63 points, T:143, killed by a kobold mummy 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 34 points, T:154, killed by a bolt of cold 13:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:940 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:79130 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:79132 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:79316 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:12246 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1910 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a winter wolf cub, on T:12576 13:37 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 393 points, T:2104, killed by a werejackal 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1007 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:12996 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1087 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 uncursed magic markers", on T:62999 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:79693 13:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 319 points, T:1346, killed by a small mimic 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:79696 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21404 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 89 points, T:730, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Grib 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1776 points, T:3896, quit 13:49 ripperino 13:49 master lich summoned a black dragon, and I forgot MR didn't help for that 13:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:53 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1931 13:53 amateurhour: woof 13:53 :[ 13:54 meow? 13:54 :3 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:520 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1367 points, T:2852, quit 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:781 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:644 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:663 14:00 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 208 points, T:672, killed by a small mimic 14:01 more fridge logic: if you try to tip a potion, you get a message about it being securely sealed. then why do they dilute the instant you go underwater 14:01 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 14:02 aosdict: osmosis 14:02 yeah the glass they're kept in must be permeable to water but not air 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Offler, on T:14858 14:03 bottle corks 14:05 -!- ais523 has quit [Excess Flood] 14:05 bear in mind, this is the same sort of glass that dissolves into thin air once you've finished drinking the potion, so who knows what it's capable of 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 109 points, T:446, killed by a bolt of fire 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1522 14:06 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 14:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed rustproof +2 helm of drain resistance", on T:62211 14:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2484 14:13 aosdict: what do you think of some percentage of potions becoming phials for who knows what future use? 14:13 sounds like extra complications to me. 14:13 and more crap for ocd players like me 14:13 more details please? 14:13 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided demiliches dungeon wide on T:46120 14:14 what are the properties of a phial 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:399 14:14 Empty bottle, so you can make a potion of water without sacrificing the use of the original potion? 14:15 along those lines, I was thinking "empty bottle" myself. dip in water for potion of water. 14:15 Unless it's of Galadriel, that one's good 14:15 phial: a container that holds liquid. A basic use would be to collect water from fountains/sinks. There's probably some advanced uses I haven't thought of 14:15 I think further increasing the water supply would be undesirable 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:403 14:15 you could forget the whole phial thing if we assume potions are single use drink packets :) 14:16 q - an empty phial. Bring 20 phials to your nearest shopkeeper for a 10% discount in your next purchase! 14:16 once torn open they're discarded 14:16 <@luxidream> player starts with a limited number of phials, you find randomized kool-aid packets throughout the dungeon to flavor your water 14:16 so the problem with phials is obviously infinite holy water 14:16 0.05zm refund if returned! 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 speed boots", on T:411 14:17 Or we can have a spectrum of potion sizes, based on wine bottle namings 14:17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_bottle#Sizes 14:17 <@luxidream> your god gives you holy kool-aid packets if you pray with phials on the altar 14:17 new item: kool-aid packet - add to potion of water to boost attraction of bugs. 14:17 every's having the apport loop with his current pet in a shop again. 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 gauntlets of power", on T:414 14:17 nabru: there are actually a bunch of potion container names implemented already 14:17 kool-aid packet - "This tastes like a cheap knock-off of [fruit] juice!" 14:18 usually seen in "The [noun] crashes on your head and breaks into shards." 14:18 can't remember, did vanilla port the hallucinatory ones 14:18 yes 14:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1012 points, T:2014, killed by a wand 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:612 14:20 Actually, given !HW are basically unlimited after a certain point, perhaps increasing the supply would be good; it would have a chance to kill chronic overpreparers by encouraging them to go to the Planes while Burdened. 14:20 it would be nice if phials were more prevalent in variants with vampires so they can collect blood for later consumption. 14:20 they're so rare 14:20 flavor-wise, blood carried around even in a sealed container will congeal 14:21 maybe you could handwave it for vampire blood 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:82008 14:21 <@luxidream> it's magic and only congeals when cursed 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:82009 14:21 <@riker> always thought that was dumb, dnh changed that 14:21 <@riker> it congeals when blessed 14:21 <@riker> since vampires hate blessed thing by default, even in vanilla? 14:22 <@luxidream> you mean un? 14:22 <@luxidream> there are no vampires in vanilla 14:22 <@riker> no, but as monsters 14:22 <@luxidream> yeah, as pets 14:22 <@luxidream> the player doesn't seem to care though 14:22 <@riker> they should take the extra damage from d4 blessed, and I'm not sure if that applies to player vampires 14:22 <@riker> meh 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1120 14:25 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 14:29 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Sam Hum Mal Law), 76 points, T:226, killed by a sewer rat 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:82254 14:35 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:6107 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:82370 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:82382 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63702 14:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2274 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63711 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3130112 points, T:82395, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1586559447.nh.html 14:42 congrats Bliss56 \o/ 14:43 Yeah, no Demo this time 14:43 gg Bliss56 14:44 Congrats! 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2342 14:45 congrats! No grand tour is nice. 14:46 GG 14:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:62612 14:51 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 14:51 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:52 bouquet, I've had a bunch of grand tours lately, so the got it in one was great! 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1608 points, T:3860, quit 14:55 In my evilhack game I think my pet got polymorphed into something invisible that can't be seen by telepathy. Very strange. I have no stethescope yet unfortunately. 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3036 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:3092 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3093 14:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1889 points, T:3969, killed by a horse 14:58 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:46612 14:58 it could also be a hiding monster 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 daggers on an altar, on T:3097 14:58 oh telepathy fails. nm 14:59 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof cloak of magic resistance", on T:46618 15:00 -!- HumbertC has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1472 15:01 telepathy works. but meanwhile I have just used s to detect it and kept whistling near a polytrap. I now have a tame storm giant. 15:02 * NCommander steals LarienTelrunya 15:02 huh, wassup NCommander? 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1905 15:02 LarienTelrunya, I have a need to make the world a weirder place. Your assistance is required 15:03 heh, how can I do that? 15:03 "entered a shop" - do we have a conduct where you go without shopping 15:03 LarienTelrunya, turn the United States into one giant SLEX run but with more nurses 15:03 well in slex there's one playable race for whom shopkeepers become hostile instantly as soon as you pick up an item, even if you were going to pay :P 15:04 all shops are closed due to covid 19. go back to yoiu home, good adventurer 15:04 LarienTelrunya, yes, but that's vanilla, not SLEX. 15:04 what? 15:04 The announcement 15:04 ah 15:04 LarienTelrunya, vanilla, despite your disagreement with the post 360 changes doesn't run the risk of causing Rule 34 every time you turn the corner :) 15:05 heh, that's unfortunate 15:06 LarienTelrunya, ... is there ever a moment in your adult life when you might want things G/PG rating ;) 15:07 uhh I'm not familiar with american rating, here in germany the rating is the age at which it's permitted, e.g. 6, 12, 16, 18 15:07 that's so much more simple and intuitive than the american system 15:07 G == General Audiences/PG = Parental Guidance 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:63992 15:07 uhh that's chinese to me, sorry :P 15:07 aosdict, the irony is most of it was caused because the MPAA copyrighted the US rating system. 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1089 points, T:3033, killed by a kitten 15:08 then again we have a rating category which is "17+ unless accompanied by a 17+ person, in which case your age doesn't matter" 15:08 I'm not a general audience! I'm a specific audience! 15:08 LarienTelrunya, 如果您可以阅读此书,则说明您有足够的捆绑包。 15:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:09 LarienTelrunya, obviously you need to make SLEX unicode compliant and have monsters attack into CKJ codepoints :) 15:09 NCommander: Kono bandoru wa gaikoku-go o rikai shite imasen! Nantekotta i! 15:09 wtf now kiwiirc has the bug where it still looks like I was pinged after clearing the announcement 15:10 the bug goes away only when I get pinged again 15:10 LarienTelrunya: in the context of NCommander's "G/PG rating", it probably means suitable for pre-teenagers 15:10 ^- what he said 15:10 here's a bug in evilhack: when you kill something over shallow water, it never leaves a corpse 15:10 aosdict: heh 15:10 I dunno, evilhack sometimes feels like it's trying to become the new SLEX. Ascension being a bug. 15:10 :) 15:10 allihaveismymind is back! 15:10 though, PG-13 is slowly eroding into the preteen stage of life 15:11 as in, i killed a dragon over shallow water (also a giant once before) and got no corpse 15:11 Yeah well, Temple of Doom is to blame 15:11 can someone ask allihaveismymind on reddit to update the sidebar on what is hosted by hardfought 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:993 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 503 points, T:1019, killed by a gnome 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:447 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 475 points, T:851, killed by a manes 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:451 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh13d] qt (Wiz Mal), 86 points, T:119, demon 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:548 15:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] qt (Pri Dop Mal Cha), 154 points, T:418, killed by a kobold 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:501 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 326 points, T:785, killed by a falling rock 15:23 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Red Fem Cha), 565 points, T:724, killed by a monster (furry), while frozen by an eldritch blast 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 169 points, T:495, killed by a water moccasin 15:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:11938 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 417 points, T:1468, killed by a giant bat 15:30 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 142 points, T:996, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Grib 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:59185 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 509 points, T:1863, killed by a sewer rat 15:34 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 15:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:20717 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:42051 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 magic markers", on T:64203 15:39 @ a human or elf (human priestess called Sally the Lama, wearing armor) 15:39 the sally lama! 15:39 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2229 15:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2580 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:2636 15:44 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) killed Drauglir, on T:38151 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:2777 15:47 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Spa Mal Cha), 151 points, T:487, killed by an icy touch 15:49 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:64264 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:64265 15:53 <@Sig> I, uh, lost my horse. Dunno where it went but I was riding it and I'm worried it died. Any way to check logs or rewatch my game? 15:54 <{Demo}> stupid horse 15:57 sig: you can watch the ttyrec 15:59 <@Sig> How do I do that? 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1 16:02 hothraxxa maybe my mystery pet was a Beholder 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 140163 points, T:15615, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 16:03 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 706 points, T:33, killed by a monster (natto) 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:789 16:04 no, when i zapped her the second time, i got the message 'sally the lama is already diminished' or something like that 16:04 oops 16:05 zapped her with what? cancellation? 16:06 yes. she had ac -39 and i was trying to get it to something i could hit 16:06 the one hit made her -33 and i managed to hit her with mjollnir 16:06 missed a lot but she's dead now 16:07 dead sally, good :-) 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1741 points, T:3472, killed by a gnome lord 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 385 points, T:1015, killed by a kitten 16:16 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Mal Cha), 460 points, T:459, killed by a monster (opal patch) 16:17 [hdf-us] [spl] arnibald (Pir Inf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:11296 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2875 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 180 points, T:829, killed by an incubus 16:20 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Red Fem Cha), 90 points, T:133, killed by a monster (kogepan) 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:598 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:474 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1172 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 128 points, T:522, killed by a jackal 16:22 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 100 points, T:5, killed by a monster (the quadrennial sodden ratchet called Randomized Script Monster) 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] sawbones (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:994 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 248 points, T:683, killed by a gnome 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 20 points, T:300, killed by a black pudding 16:25 -!- rsa has quit [Quit: nukqs] 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:675 16:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1050 points, T:2181, killed by a dingo 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:65496 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3877 16:41 Oh hey, Blarg's active again 16:41 !lastgame blargo 16:41 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BLARGO/xnethack/dumplog/1586711654.xnh.html 16:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:63914 16:43 -!- ais523 has joined 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being activated" what would that sound like... 16:58 nyoooo-pshhhhh 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 406 points, T:958, killed by a gecko, while sleeping 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:3097 17:00 !lastgame nabru 17:00 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/slex/dumplog/1586041767.slex.txt 17:02 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 802 points, T:1792, killed by a brown mold 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1823 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 77 points, T:281, killed by a falling rock 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:29, killed by a little dart 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1935 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 86 points, T:498, killed by a jackal 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2164 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:66157 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1251 points, T:2276, killed by a rabid rat 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:66228 17:18 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:60606 17:28 fuck you demo 17:28 Demo down, demo down... 17:29 Any nasty tricks by Demo this time? 17:29 <{Demo}> yes 17:30 oops other Demo :-) 17:30 i have a strategy for demo that means he never touches me 17:30 don't tell us what it is 17:30 <{Demo}> me too its called c!ogl 17:30 K2 is always taking notes 17:31 yeah but k2 nerfed those in .50 17:31 so i had to come up with something else 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] sawbones (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1091 points, T:2916, killed by a killer bee 17:32 heh I'm glad that I'm not the only variant developer who watches players and decides what to change based upon the strategies used by the players :D 17:32 the nerfing developer syndrome 17:33 when someone finds a strategy that works, nerf it 17:33 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33 "what? how dare you be clever enough to find a way to make my game easier!" 17:34 enough of that and no one will want to play your game 17:34 heh, at least for slex that is actually rather accurate 17:34 part of the pleasure of playing is working out a good strategy 17:35 if the developer keeps blocking them, well 17:35 i only nerf the things that make things ridiculously easy :) 17:36 heh, I should tell that to porkman, because I'm doing the same thing with slex... but I don't think he'd agree 17:36 i've made it harder to get away from demon bosses - if a player still finds a way, kudos 17:36 well i did 17:36 neeener neener 17:36 dont say nuthin 17:36 ^ take note all, this promotes player resourcefulness 17:36 i haven't shared it 17:41 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1450 17:44 LarienTelrunya 17:44 question for ya 17:44 FLEECY 17:44 ^ this summons amy 17:44 heh lol, I'm about to go to bed; what is it? 17:44 so you compile for windows yeah? 17:44 uhh yes? 17:45 ever seen anything like this? 17:45 Potential fix: warning: implicit declaration of function 'strcasestr' 17:45 in src/engrave.c:410 (windows-mingw build) 17:45 oops 17:45 but yeah 17:45 one sec thats not it 17:45 hmm not that exact wording but something similar 17:45 error C2036: 'genericptr_t': unknown size 17:45 ^ that 17:45 not sure, maybe when trying to compile dnethack :P 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6106 17:46 what I do remember is that I had to do some juju magic to get dnethack to compile on windows 17:46 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/restore.c#L498 17:46 thats where it's getting it 17:46 that's the bit i added so shambling horrors would keep their stats on a save/restore 17:46 ohh you've created your own method of loading the monster array into memory? or did you pull that from some other variant? 17:47 it compiles fine on everything except mingw hah 17:47 pulled it from spork (modified a tiny bit) 17:47 wtf 17:47 the slex method is also the one from spork (and modified), but I don't recall seeing that error message related to it 17:48 lets see what you have 17:48 here is what I do: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/blob/master/src/restore.c#L401 17:48 (don't mind the huge block that is commented out; it's from the old method before I moved over to a new, better one) 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:66259 17:49 and the corresponding function in save.c: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/blob/master/src/save.c#L394 17:49 hmm one difference is that instead of a genericptr_t I'm using "void *" 17:50 yeah 17:50 so how is genericptr_t unknown at that line 17:50 also you seem to have something called "namesize" 17:50 i cant go editing the shit out of this otherwise i run risk of save breaking 17:51 well are the horrors working correctly on the server, i.e. retain their stats upon reloading? (without a pokedex it's probably more annoying to test that? :D) 17:51 yes they are 17:52 in that case I'd probably defer changing it until you're ready to savebreak again 17:53 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2602 17:54 but i want windows build dammit heh 17:54 just checked, slex's save.c and restore.c don't use genericptr_t anywhere 17:55 heh, you could make a compile-time option, something like /*#define WINDOWS_STUPID_BUG*/ and put the relevant function in restore.c so that if it's defined, it uses a way that makes it compile on windows, otherwise it still uses genericptr_t ;) 17:55 #ifdef WINDOWS_STUPID_BUG mread(fd, (void *) &mons[iter] + namesize, sizeof(struct permonst) - namesize); 17:55 #else mread(fd, (genericptr_t) &mons[iter] + namesize, sizeof(struct permonst) - namesize); 17:55 #endif 17:55 ^^ something like that 17:55 ugh no 17:56 i mean thats for the idea but thats too hacky 17:56 thanks rather 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:66270 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 782 points, T:3045, killed by a wererat 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 51 points, T:252, killed by a black pudding 17:58 In ANSI C, the data type pointer-to-void, written void *, can be used to hold the value of any other type of pointer, without requiring a "cast", or explicit type conversion. NetHack defines genericptr_t for this purpose. 17:58 from https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/ANSI_C 17:59 maybe when compiling with mingw, genericptr_t somehow doesn't get defined; my guess would be that the definition is in a file not used by the mingw build but it is used by the unix (gcc/clang) build 17:59 hmm 18:00 but genericptr_t is all over that file and nethack code in general 18:00 oh wait, your error message said "unknown size", not that it doesn't know wha genericptr_t actually is 18:00 damn kiwiirc lag... of course I typed "what" 18:01 right 18:01 K2: does the error keep happening if you put the "&mons[iter] + namesize" expression in brackets? 18:01 mread(fd, (genericptr_t) (&mons[iter] + namesize), sizeof(struct permonst) - namesize); 18:01 lemme see 18:03 hmm I'm wondering whether &mons[iter] is really type compatible with sizeof, but then again sizeof returns an int so it probably should 18:03 welp 18:03 i had saved a wizmode game just to test things out when editing restore.c 18:04 when i put that in () like you suggested, copied my saved game back over and loaded it 18:04 my giant is now a white 'a' 18:04 ugh 18:04 and when i farlook myself the game crashes heh 18:04 but does it mean it compiled now? 18:04 i didnt try windows yet 18:05 anything i do *has* to work on linux side too and first 18:05 wtf so that one little change caused everything to blow up? :( 18:05 yeah 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 974 points, T:2219, killed by a giant ant 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7720 18:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:06 hmm this namesize thing is weird, I'm not sure what that's there for 18:07 i love that the nethackwiki has an ANSI C page 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:605 18:08 what are some non-nymph methods i could use to get rid of my iron ball? 18:08 as a convict 18:08 Rust monster 18:08 so, well, sorry that I can't really diagnose this; maybe mingw just generally dislikes that namesize operation somehow 18:09 anyway, good night and good luck with getting the windows build to work, there's got to be some way :) 18:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:10 hmm 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1540 18:12 will my iron weapon be safe from rusting if i unwield it? 18:13 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Gul Nbn Law), 2941 points, T:2480, killed by an acid worm, while fainted from lack of food 18:13 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:8179 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 620 points, T:1868, killed by a hill orc 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law), 15441 points, T:15206, killed by a fire ant 18:17 <@Sig> Still can't find my horse. At this point I would accept a saddle. 18:17 <@Sig> Do I need to have recorded the game from the beginning or is there a TTY file on the server I can watch somewhere? 18:18 <@riker> the server saves them 18:18 <@riker> !whereis sig 18:18 @riker: sig is not playing. 18:18 <@riker> !who 18:18 @riker: [hdf-us] davidkent [evil] Torpid [nh370] Urc [nh370] Cropper [nh370] BLARGO [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] qt [nh370] tkirkby [slex] zor [un] post163 [spl] Pacra [dnh] musicdemon [xnh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] mosen [nh370] microlance [nh370] xgamer [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 18:18 <@riker> what variant? 18:18 <@Sig> Just hopped back in 18:18 <@Sig> dnh 18:18 <@riker> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Sig/dnethack/ttyrec/ 18:18 <@Sig> TY 18:18 <@riker> each session is a ttyrec 18:18 <@riker> so you'll need to check the one timestamped when you lost it 18:18 <@Sig> Alright, thank you 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19292 18:24 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2271 points, T:1451, killed by a gnome 18:25 <@Sig> Am I doing something wrong or does a ttyrec just look like this 18:25 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/699384746718789663/unknown.png 18:26 <@riker> no repro 18:26 <@riker> which ttyrec is it? i'll try in jettyplay 18:26 <@Sig> 2020-04-13.19:03:17 18:26 <@Sig> Third from the bottom 18:27 <@riker> oh f 18:27 <@riker> found it 18:28 <@riker> you led sunshine into the water on vlad's first level 18:28 <@Sig> Dammit I was wondering why some of my stuff was rusted too. 18:29 <@riker> specifically the bottom left square on the math in the middle, if you want the saddle 18:29 <@Sig> How do I get it back? 18:29 <@riker> freeze the water around it 18:29 <@riker> or fill the water in with earth scrolls / boulders of any kind 18:30 <@riker> dig it out then 18:30 <@riker> grappling hooks will work if you can fly/lev over 18:30 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 18:30 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest50969 18:30 -!- Guest50969 has quit [Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 18:30 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:19904 18:31 <@Sig> I've got the earth scrolls from Sokoban 18:31 <@Sig> I got it to work on Jettyplay. I didn't realize that counts as me killing Sunshine too, so my luck is in the trashcan 18:31 <@riker> you'll need to make sure all of the adjacent water is filled in 18:32 <@Sig> Right, I figured. 18:32 <@riker> not even sure tha'ts your luck, I think it migth be god anger 18:32 <@Sig> I thought that affected luck too. Hope not, at least. 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:66319 18:33 welp, got nymphed 18:34 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Nob Hum Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1310 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:9552 18:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Nob Hum Fem Law), 3741 points, T:1698, killed by an ettin 18:41 dk657: that advice on the ansi c page at the bottom... has anyone ever had great success writing a roguelike in java or perl 18:42 python, yes 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Offler, on T:20745 18:44 you know what needs investigation? a roguelike written in R 18:44 <@riker> that concerns me 18:45 <{Demo}> R BAD please die 18:45 <{Demo}> write a roguelike in rust if u r cool 18:45 <3 R 18:45 R and i have a special relationship 18:45 <{Demo}> ok go do some sciene or something 18:45 <@riker> demo I was just writing some weird dnh bs in r 18:46 <@riker> to figure out distribution of skills 18:46 <{Demo}> why, isn't R just for sciencers that don't believe in writing real languages? 18:46 <{Demo}> like its like matlab but for confuseder ppl 18:46 <@riker> matlab costs money, R does not 18:47 <@riker> it's also pretty easy to do good graphs in it, about as easy as matplotlib i'd say 18:47 R is a wonderful language for doing statistics 18:47 {Demo}: what if dk657 does nethack science 18:47 like analyzing deaths 18:47 so bent toward that that it appears a perversion to others 18:48 other "normal" folk 18:48 <{Demo}> ah, statistics 18:50 @riker Not that matplotlib is particularly hard to use, but it takes me about an hour to find all the documentation for and implement the chart I want to implement. 18:50 With a legend here, the axes labeled there, etc. 18:50 <@riker> matlab != matplotlib? 18:50 <@riker> matlab is pretty chill but it costs money and I dont' have octave (the free version) installed rn 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1379 18:51 <@riker> matplotlib is fine but it has funky compatibility issues sometimes 18:51 not matlab. I was talking about matplotlib (the python module) 18:51 <@riker> and I specifically wanted a 3d graph, which was easier in r 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:10699 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:10700 18:53 i think octave is kinda ehhh 18:53 <@riker> i haven't used it much 18:53 <@riker> i had a matlab license from a summer thing a bit ago that I used though 18:53 i had to use matlab in a couple courses and it sucked farts 18:53 <@riker> it was neat 18:54 tbh 18:54 i used julia last semester in a course and it was ok 18:54 <@riker> julia is fun 18:54 <@riker> it's much more fun to use than python imo 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 639 points, T:1815, killed by a small mimic 18:57 I've used R for graphs 18:57 I don't even really know R that much 18:57 but if I need some squiggly lines plotted then as god is my witness R shall be given the privilege of rendering them 18:59 <@Sig> I took a course on R last summer and the only thing I really remember from it was the graphs being really easy. Not so much easier than Python that I've ever used R since, though. 18:59 <@Sig> Someone should write a roguelike in Prolog. 19:00 i make "gifs" for my presentations by making the frames in a R script and then doing "feh *.png" in that folder and holding the right arrow 19:00 <@Sig> Genius 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu), 506 points, T:1280, killed by a giant mimic 19:01 the main benefit of R for me is that if someone publishes a new statistical method, if they program it, 99% of the time it's done in R 19:02 plus i'm used to it and i like to write arrows in my code <- 19:03 <{Demo}> i like to write arrows in my code in javascript 19:03 <{Demo}> and it is fun and epic 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1104 points, T:2218, killed by a giant spider 19:06 <@Sig> I hated the arrows. I'm already a slow typer by programmer standards and turning one key into two hard to reach keys ruined my speed. 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:22125 19:08 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 19:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1558 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law), 872 points, T:1653, killed by an arrow 19:10 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:722 19:11 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1049 19:13 Any devs online? Just wondering if code for cursed items have changed. I'm able to wield a cursed bag and unwield it (thought this wasn't allowed before) 19:13 needed to wield to cast remove curse 19:14 this is on vanilla (hardfought( 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:453 19:15 eraserhead97, only weapons, weapon-tools and tin openers weld 19:15 @jilles ic - ty ^^ 19:15 nice to have a sanity-check 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law), 2169600 points, T:66391, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BLARGO/nethack/dumplog/1585513900.nh.html 19:19 Sig: "<-" is shift+- in emacs speaks statistics 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:23452 19:23 Wielding cursed not-weapons to uncurse has always been safe, yeah 19:23 Also yay Blargo! 19:24 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 17166 points, T:2937, killed by a monster (unnoticed predator) 19:25 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Fem Cha), 20 points, T:22, killed by a monster (the King in Yellow) 19:25 Go Team Carcosa! 19:27 the king in yellow on T:22 19:27 I shouldn't be surprised at slex though 19:29 !lastgame tkirkby 19:29 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tkirkby/slex/dumplog/1586820276.slex.txt 19:29 Oh, fountain quaffing. 19:29 That makes marginally more sense. 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1370 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:1424 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1475 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3563 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4434 19:41 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 19:41 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest60358 19:41 -!- Guest60358 has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 19:41 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1993 19:47 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Red Fem Cha), 672 points, T:865, killed by a shotgun shell 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:2443 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3812 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:25720 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:25721 19:59 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 9408 points, T:430, killed by a jet of boiling water 20:01 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 8304 points, T:21, killed by a bolt of cold 20:03 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 10459 points, T:23, killed by a monster (canine badger) 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2882 points, T:4147, killed by a hill orc called Thosagorai of Ahaia 20:06 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:40621 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 595 points, T:454, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 1004 points, T:1806, killed by a pony 20:23 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 430 points, T:1283, killed by a shotgun shell 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had a leather elven cloak entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:28201 20:27 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 266 points, T:282, killed by strangulation 20:30 !tell LarienTelrunya monster idea, liquor ant. its bite duplicates the effect of drinking booze 20:30 I'm on it, aosdict. 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:14192 20:44 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 20:45 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 20:47 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Pir Orc Mal Cha), 168 points, T:245, cut down by a hobbit 20:50 <@riker> k2 did you mean to release like 11 copies of 0.5.0 20:52 no why 20:52 [hdf-us] [spl] MoldyWater (Con Gul Mal Cha), 0 points, T:6, killed by a falling rock 20:53 i just added a tag 20:53 doing travis-ci stuff 20:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:53 <@riker> ah 20:53 <@riker> not sure what auto release thingy you have but it made like 11 releases 20:53 <@riker> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/releases 20:54 heh 20:54 <@riker> I think i'ts 1 per commit since teh https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/42557bd6b628feeba8a033917c9d9521bfbac3e1 20:55 i put the tag back to the very first 0.5.0 commit 20:55 <@riker> wack 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:15367 20:56 hah it made a windows binary \o/ 20:56 <@riker> does it run though 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15374 20:56 well lets see 20:57 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Mam Red Fem Cha), 7066 points, T:1530, killed by a monster (giant spider) 20:57 no it does not 20:57 not surprised 20:58 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Red Fem Cha), 0 points, T:31, zapped herself with a wand 20:58 <@riker> :p 21:01 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:02 -!- nabru-mobile has joined #hardfought 21:05 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 21:11 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Sym Alc Fem Cha), 1963 points, T:437, killed by a monster (green slime) 21:15 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 21:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 21:15 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:16 hi 21:16 Hello AntiGulp, Welcome to #hardfought 21:16 AntiGulp: Message from bhaak at 2020-04-11 08:47 EDT: how about setting up a travis account and letting travis handle the gory details? the .travis.yml in 3.6/3.7 produces a release zip as an artifact 21:16 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict at 2020-04-13 13:10 EDT: why can spl vampire players use silver items for things that elven players can't do with iron? 21:16 aaa 21:19 <@Sig> What all animals can I saddle? Just u/q? 21:20 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 984 points, T:3894, killed by an invisible ettin 21:21 <@Suzune Takada> and C, D, J 21:21 <@Suzune Takada> and Ki-rin 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2141 21:24 <@Suzune Takada> is changeling in next version of spl the modified version of slem doppelganger? 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 4476 points, T:4800, killed by an invisible plains centaur 21:25 AntiGulp: need some bug spray for those insects? 21:25 aaaaaaa 21:26 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26 YASI: potion of bug repellent. Poisons you if you drink it, but if you smash it over yourself insects will flee from you. 21:26 (This includes a, s, and x.) 21:27 <@Suzune Takada> it seems can't be #youpoly (unlike slem) 21:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10929 21:44 <@Sig> @Suzune Takada ty 21:47 <@Suzune Takada> dragon is strong and flying, but slower than warhorse 21:51 <@Sig> Can you make a dragon pet use its breath weapon? 21:54 YANI: Kicking a dragon while riding it makes it breathe 21:55 actually, I want to upgrade my YASI above to a YANI. I wouldn't implement it, but someone might. Or maybe it could be a side effect of some other kind of potion. 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2775 21:57 AntiGulp, YASI: 1/5 chance of it making it breathe from the other end. 21:58 yessss 21:58 Wait no that sounds like a slex feature 21:58 "the other end" = you specify a direction, and it goes in the reverse? 21:58 You said it, not me 21:59 I guess you have to specify a direction anywy? 21:59 oh yeah in this case yes 21:59 hmm 22:00 my +2 aklys of venom got thoroughly rusted D: 22:00 the rust makes it extra poisonous :B 22:01 +2 aklys of venom and tetanus 22:01 -!- murphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:02 i wish 22:02 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 22:02 "the dwarf's jaw siezes up" 22:02 -!- nabru-mobile has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 22:03 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu), 13233 points, T:5043, poisoned by a stone orcish arrow 22:17 Pinkbeast: your name ends in "erell", right? 22:18 because I just wished for five statue traps in a line (testing a new feature) and that's what they came out as 22:25 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1455 points, T:4395, killed by a wand 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3275 22:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:17019 22:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:17020 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:388 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1890 points, T:3304, killed by a bolt of lightning, while fainted from lack of food 22:31 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 497 points, T:779, fell into a pit of iron spikes 22:32 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:41367 22:35 I just stumbled into "The Void" 22:35 And while I was in there something went crazy and now I'm back in Sokoban. 22:35 mon_arrive: no corresponding portal? 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:12847 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:2236 22:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1504 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1504 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1737 22:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Lungorthin, on T:75902 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a helmet entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2966 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3347 23:01 void dragons are bad, right? Like, I probably shouldn't let it get near me? 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:15200 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18220 23:18 oh dk has an evil convict started! nice :) 23:27 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Mon Hum Mal Law), 170 points, T:520, killed by a boulder 23:29 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:29 apparently they disintegrate armor on touch 23:32 <@Suzune Takada> - There is a one in six chance that an efreet will emerge from a lamp, instead of a djinni. 23:32 <@Suzune Takada> oops. nerfed magic lamp 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu), 12330 points, T:4248, killed by a dwarf king 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:992 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 303 points, T:1065, killed by a giant bat 23:40 bouquet: did you find out what you needed to about the Treasury of Proteus? 23:41 A dragon of destroy armour? 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:731 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:948 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:19893