00:09 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 00:09 !source 00:09 Agrius: https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder 00:16 Hi 00:16 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:15345 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:15346 00:35 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51 wtf is this? 00:51 <@riker> wow that really sucks lol 00:51 <@riker> not only is it a useless artifact it's not even particularly good for chiros 00:51 Slightly faster throne rooms clears 00:51 pog 00:52 <@riker> worth keeping as an offhand for a bit i'd say, if only for poison instakill 00:52 -!- Agrius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:52 concentrated essence of jaime lannister 00:52 Yeah just reading the wiki on it now. heh. 00:53 <@riker> it sucks ;) 00:53 lol 00:53 Some corner use in late game 00:53 <@riker> no 00:54 <@riker> it's just genuinely awful 00:54 <@riker> with all due respect d20 to MG_PRINCE / MG_LORD is not worth 1d2 base damage 01:00 what's its base type 01:00 <@riker> stiletto (the knife not the shoe) 01:01 ... does any variant (other than slex of course) have stiletto shoes? 01:01 <@riker> dnethack? 01:01 <@riker> i'm still not 100% clear why they're in dnethack 01:07 that seems not right. 01:07 ah well, maybe I'll get a better artifact next time 01:07 <@riker> that death message seems funky 01:08 was actually a shocking sphere I think. 01:08 !lastgame 01:08 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vigorix/nethack/dumplog/1586557272.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1585766283.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1586269565.dnh.txt 01:08 Oh jesus 01:08 That's a lot of daggers 01:09 Why'd it print the first item in your inv tho 01:10 <@riker> i think its' a known bug 01:10 <@riker> and fixed 01:10 looks like it was secondary wand damage from the shocking sphere. 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:24474 01:11 <@riker> I know one about invents being picked instead of the right killer for explosions 01:11 <@riker> @NeroOneTrueKing does that sound like the same bug as the aurumach bug? 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:54919 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:55074 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:55121 01:20 yani: potion of antifreeze or cleaning alcohol that gives you an illness that you cure with potions of booze 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:55156 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:55186 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:55308 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 3076891 points, T:55324, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1586121009.nh.html 01:39 !who 01:39 bug_sniper_: [hdf-us] Nocki [nh363] dingotron [evil] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 01:40 not a dwarf zombie that time. 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Nocki (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2445 points, T:2433, killed by a giant spider 01:44 hahaha 01:48 !lastgame tangles 01:48 bug_sniper_: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1534858827.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/slex/dumplog/1523968901.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1586583697.dnh.txt 01:48 @lastgame tangles 01:49 oh, book with exploding rune 01:50 Yeah that one started with 6 daggers, so I figured I'd just see what happens when you just read/quaff all the things. 01:52 -!- moony has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:54 -!- dingotron has joined #hardfought 01:56 uh so it turns out that cockatrice nests are thing in #evilhack 01:57 s - a silver flail named Quicksilver (floor on DL2) 01:57 just dug through ceiling and landed in an 11x3 nest of cockatrices 01:58 lol dingotron. Back away slowly :) 02:04 Yeah, they're a vanilla thing 02:04 Complete with statue 02:04 *statues 02:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:26 !who 02:26 K2: [hdf-us] dingotron [evil] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 02:33 dingotron that mail is from me :P 02:34 @tangles i noped out of there very immediately with a ! of teleport 02:34 thanks! 02:34 and its done 02:34 you can go back in whenever 02:34 thanks dingotron 02:35 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:35 np! 02:37 <@tA> uhh hello 02:37 hiya 02:37 whats goin on @tA 02:37 <@tA> it appears I got accidentally tagged in discord 02:37 oh... i see how 02:38 sorry bout that 02:40 People with 2-letter names should probably expect occasional mis-taggings. 02:45 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 02:45 -!- tepper.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ EvilHack 0.5.0 has been released! 02:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 02:46 :P 02:49 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 02:51 -!- dingotron has joined #hardfought 02:53 -!- dingotron has quit [Client Quit] 02:56 <@microlance> an angry unicorn teleports right in my face when i have 15 hp and a blessed magic lamp 😦 02:59 Unicorns are jerks. 02:59 ugh 03:00 heh 03:00 i stayed up way too late 03:00 but i can sleep in so yay 03:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 52146 points, T:20687, killed by a bolt of lightning 03:00 gnite all o/ 03:01 'night K2! 03:07 -!- probablymoony has joined #hardfought 03:12 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Wil Alc Mal Cha), 1464 points, T:1234, killed by a monster (wax golem), while scared by rattling 03:16 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Ele Alc Mal Cha), 608 points, T:143, killed by a monster (Mother Lilith), while dressing up 03:21 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Ele Alc Fem Cha), 82 points, T:247, killed by a monster (gel) 03:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:771 03:45 [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Occ Alc Fem Cha), 404 points, T:1236, killed by a cannonball 03:54 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 04:18 [hdf-us] [dyn] NB RANGER (Luxidream) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 11972 points, T:17082, killed by a death ray 04:23 F 04:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 05:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1275 05:06 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 05:06 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:13 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2815 05:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:2865 05:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 649 points, T:2924, killed by a giant mimic 05:39 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 05:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1262 06:23 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 06:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 117 points, T:233, killed by a boulder 06:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:574 06:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 448 points, T:728, killed by a dwarf 06:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2199 06:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38727 07:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:38774 07:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:38976 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh13d] efot (Val Fem), 100 points, T:96, gnome 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh13d] efot (Val Fem), 50 points, T:28, imp 07:48 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:23523 07:55 [hdf-us] [nh13d] efot (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Samurai, on T:1454 07:57 [hdf-us] [nh13d] efot (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of [7mGems�, the former Cave-man, on T:1888 07:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:40070 08:09 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 08:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Pestilence, on T:40315 08:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Death, on T:40387 08:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 5327748 points, T:40407, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1585995284.dnh.txt 08:20 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:29921 08:23 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 08:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 08:24 Hey, who wants to help me with an extremely messy windows compilation issue? 08:25 * bhaak points to https://www.getgnulinux.org/ 08:26 trust me, I’d rather not be doing this, but I wanted to compile the graphical winows binary for a release 08:26 Compiling the graphical version of Splice for windows with mingw64. It almot compiles, but blows up because despite the imports apparently working, the function in bcrypt.h and win10.h are not being recognized. 08:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:30 e.g. BCryptOpenAlgorithmProvider and win10_monitor_info are both unrecognized funcs 08:31 didn't someone say the other day that to build windows, you HAVE to use visual studio and variants have problems because they tend not to keep those build files updated? 08:31 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 08:32 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 08:33 Having to use visual studio could very well be the isue. I was hoping to avoid dowloading it though :/ 08:33 And yeah, I’ve had to do ome updates to the makefile. 08:34 * aosdict gives AntiGulp a scroll of unstick s key 08:34 ha ha 08:35 well, amy somehow manages to build slex with mingw 08:35 I'm not sure if visual studio code would be enough? 08:35 yeah, but slex is 3.4 based. 08:36 3.6 got some windows upgrades that import windows-specific stuff. I don't know if you are already up there but those might make compiling with mingw harder? 08:36 vscode is just an editor, no? 08:36 my experience with compiling on windows: give up and cross compile from linux :) 08:37 it doesn't have a build system in and of itself 08:37 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 08:37 I’m sorely tempte to cross-compile, if I can figure out how. 08:37 think you can use the official C/C++ plugins and target an installed compiler from vscode fwiw aosdict 08:38 bhaak: That seems to be the issue. The game itself, my lua sources, the curses sources, and most windows specific stuff is fine. It’s just the graphical port that poops out. 08:40 aosdict: the difference between a code editor and a full blown editor is not hard cut. the most important feature for this issue would be if visual studio code can read visual studio project files. 08:45 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 08:46 so my takeaway from all this is that providing an xnethack windows build like a couple people have asked for is a lot harder than just cloning the repo onto my work laptop and following some build instructions 08:47 !tell AntiGulp how about setting up a travis account and letting travis handle the gory details? the .travis.yml in 3.6/3.7 produces a release zip as an artifact 08:47 Will do, bhaak! 08:49 aosdict: AFAIK, when you have visual studio installed, it's just the press of a button. but that's always the problem with windows. setting up the needed requirement is often the hard part. for unnethack, it's just calling ./configure with the right parameters, if you have cygwin installed or a cross-compiler set up correctly on windows :-) 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 3572 points, T:4467, killed by a small mimic 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 35 points, T:223, killed by a lava demon 09:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:08 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 31 points, T:75, killed by a bolt of cold 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 176 points, T:804, killed by an invisible water demon 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3992 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:4237 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4278 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 scrolls labeled LOREM IPSUM on an altar, on T:4287 09:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 117 points, T:469, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1599 points, T:4446, killed by a small mimic 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 fireproof gray dragon scale mail", on T:411 09:39 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:48 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Wiz Ang Fem Cha), 424 points, T:289, sent to the next life by a gnome 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 351 points, T:1164, killed by a hobbit zombie 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 48 points, T:140, killed by a fox 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 236 points, T:597, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:6959 09:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3551 10:02 -!- mobileuser100 has joined #hardfought 10:02 -!- mobileuser100 has quit [Client Quit] 10:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:11 morning 10:12 afternoon 10:12 :) 10:13 morning, almost noon! 10:13 <{Demo}> morning 10:14 morning 10:14 afternoon 10:15 fall asleep late, wake up late. yay 10:15 my kid didnt mess with me for once 10:16 fresh enough for a little evilhack question K2? ;-) 10:17 go for it 10:17 it's about centaurs, it says on the wiki: 10:17 Centaurs know all bow and crossbow weapons automatically, and excel at firing any bow regardless of role. 10:18 Just started a centaur barbarian, but I only see unskilled bow in my skill slots. 10:18 So how does that work for centaur? 10:18 i'll show ya one sec 10:18 GoP or GoD for an early priest? 10:19 is the P power or protection? 10:19 power 10:19 well either way I'd go GoP early 10:19 there are gauntlets of protection in evilhack? 10:19 kill moar stuf 10:19 yes 10:19 they're really awesome as well, can be dragonhide 10:19 dang 10:19 finding power gloves early is HUGE 10:20 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Durin's Bane, on T:31805 10:20 hopefully i'll see some of this stuff while i'm taking a break from convicts 10:21 to clarify so there's no confusion (because it got me for a sec), gauntlets of protection can be dragonhide sometimes as its base material is leather 10:21 g of power cannot 10:21 sorry, didn't realise it was ambiguous there 10:21 no prob 10:21 even me i was like 'ooooh yeah dragonhide power gloves' 10:21 then i was like 'no wait' 10:22 :P 10:22 mobileuser - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/2e32b261be60fd0d7d3ec6a0ce3fc1cb9079f35b/src/dothrow.c#L218 10:23 ok so centaur is automatic expert with bow and crossbow, cool 10:23 no 10:23 oh :-) 10:24 <{Demo}> only for multishot purposes 10:24 they still have to train skills like any role, just that they can shoot more per turn 10:24 they can fire multiple missed shots like the best of 'em 10:24 failing successfully 10:24 ok.... so my barbarian cannot train crossbow? 10:25 if you dont see it on the list, then no 10:25 So my chiro rogue found two runed candles in minetown... What's some good early wishes? Already have Quicksilver and a BoH. (dnh) 10:25 Tangles wish for my mortage to go away 10:25 Aha! I read "know" wrong on the wiki. 10:26 maybe i should rewrite that bit 10:26 You just recognize them. 10:26 <{Demo}> throne archon summons are nice and strong if you want that. early artiwishes are whack now in dnh, you might wanna just hold them for later 10:26 <{Demo}> what do you want your final weapon to be and is it a wishable artifact? 10:26 <{Demo}> if you were neutral I'd say go unheld one wish but you aren't 10:27 <{Demo}> do you have reflection or mr? 10:27 <{Demo}> maybe consider aegis 10:27 <{Demo}> maybe not aegis cause mkot gives half phys 10:30 Yeah can't really do arti armors other than cloaks & shields because no upgrade kit yet. 10:30 I don't have reflection or MR yet. 10:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Kni Hum Fem Law), 3474 points, T:7686, killed by a bolt of cold 10:32 but yeah I like the cloak of the unheld one. Have used that before :/ 10:32 Not sure what I want to do about a weapon yet. Quicksilver is nice, but I can't advance it past basic. 10:38 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 1538 points, T:1674, slain by a gnome lord 10:43 mobileuser i edited that wiki entry about centaurs, its not as vague 10:43 <{Demo}> tangles I'm thinking you should use stormy and an offhand tiny crystal sword as an end weapon loadout 10:43 <{Demo}> idk 10:43 Yeah I was looking at stormy... that's my go-to as a rogue in vanilla. 10:44 hmm... what's the crowning gift? 10:44 <{Demo}> stormy 10:44 <{Demo}> can chiro rogue twowep? 10:44 <{Demo}> how heavy is a tiny crystal sword 10:45 K2 thanks, but it was the word "know" that tripped me really, perhaps "recognize"? 10:46 They can get to expert in twoweap. 10:46 yeah 10:46 I guess I probably should not be looking at any artifact shields if that's the plan. 10:48 <{Demo}> there has to be a reason I don't see anyone doing offhand tiny crystal sword 10:48 aw shit 10:48 k2: my evilhack game is missing :( 10:49 i see it 10:49 what happened? you get disconnected? 10:49 no, i just saved yesterday 10:50 hmm 10:50 its recovered 10:50 now when i try to start it up it wants me to choose a new char etc 10:50 ok thanks 10:51 nope. hit e on dgamelaunch, shall i etc etc 10:51 <{Demo}> 2d4 small 2d8 large, weighs 41 10:51 hmm something is wrong with the save, one sec 10:51 get out of dgl please 10:51 out 10:52 <{Demo}> hey maybe its a u.usteed or u.ustuck panic-on-restore 10:52 you had a crash yesterday afternoon hothraxxa 10:52 i did? 10:53 is it game-destroying? 10:53 <{Demo}> ah, tiny crystal sword offhand isn't valid even at expert two wep 10:53 https://termbin.com/lbqq 10:53 <{Demo}> expert cap is 40 weight before you start getting the -20 tohit 10:53 dunno yet 10:54 <{Demo}> and tiny crystal sword weighs 41 10:54 Your tiny crystal sword seems very unwieldy. You miss the killer bee. 10:54 shit. this game is cursed. remember i got set back a whole day with a lot of progress 10:54 oh my god the cant find o_id error 10:54 yeah the max is 40, right? 10:55 I still have nightmares from that one... 10:55 <{Demo}> yeah i just explained it all 10:55 Yeah sorry I was off wiztesting :P 10:55 <{Demo}> it is unfortunate 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1480 points, T:2375, killed by a yeti 10:55 <{Demo}> and kind of annoying that it just weighs 1 too much 10:57 yeah almost like it was on purpose 10:57 <{Demo}> incredibly doubtful 10:57 hothraxxa try now 10:57 ok, thanks 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:228 10:58 yay! 10:58 \o/ 10:58 nothing lost. thanks 10:58 awesome 10:59 Hi hothraxxa I used your "polymorph the NPC's and tame the dragons" idea on Astral. 10:59 Worked like a charm. 10:59 excellent! 11:00 * K2 takes notes 11:00 :P 11:00 Yeah I was going to say... 11:00 you especially don't want to meet a rogue npc 11:00 Dude! He's right here! 11:00 anywhere 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:620 11:01 I should figure out how to send private messages :-) 11:01 <@Suzune Takada> wow 11:01 <@Suzune Takada> I'm playing a wizard 11:01 hahaha 11:01 <@Suzune Takada> but bonefile of healer that has mjollnir 11:01 i've been thinking of a player monster gear revamp anyways 11:01 <@Suzune Takada> awesome 11:01 nah k2 is well aware that i have developed strategies to make evilhack easier 11:02 i had to figure out one for demogorgon since he disallowed bypassing him with cursed gain level 11:02 well you're on 0.4.2 still 11:02 that's not until 0.5.0 11:03 i know, i'm being proactive 11:03 :) 11:03 took him down in my last ascension 11:03 I had to go find an alchemy smock to fight Demogorgon, he nearly killed me with an acid attack 11:03 he never laid a finger on me, but it took a lot of offense to kill him 11:04 ok so can things be randomly generated to provide extrinsics? i think i have a thonged club giving me warning? 11:04 yes that can happen 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 610 points, T:1467, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:04 dk657 - object properties 11:05 they'll be a bit more common in 0.5.0 but still less common than other variants with obj properties patch 11:07 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 11:07 that's awesome 11:08 dk657 - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Object_properties - probabilities are updated for 0.5.0 11:14 forgot I was wearing a mummy wrapping instead of cloak of MR 11:14 my horse turned into a marilith 11:15 wasn't wearing sdsm though, so just luck on that 11:15 haven't we all done that, forgetting to take off the mummy wrapping after shopping ;-) 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Pri Ith Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "hi", on T:5542 11:17 * K2 has done that 11:18 I either lost my mithril armour or the marilith yoinked it 11:19 <@Pacra> @k2 i have found that player monster gear at the enchantments they are at make them nigh unkillable unless they dont have reflection or mr 11:19 But they can't wear mythril armour... 11:19 <@Pacra> and id say maybe a third do? 11:19 <@Pacra> i guess answer is "dont engage" 11:19 @Pacra thats by design. they're supposed to be tough 11:19 then I guess I just lost it... 11:19 <@Pacra> gotcha 11:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 660 points, T:2369, killed by a gnome lord 11:20 just like you tough :) 11:20 aw fuck 11:20 Saving... Cannot open file "5hothraxxa.34" for level 34 (errno 2). Do you want to see your attributes? [ynq] (y) 11:20 k2... 11:20 hmm 11:20 <@Pacra> i still killed all of them by bumping into them for like 60 rounds of combat until vorpal blade did its thing 11:21 lemme look at the nightly backup 11:21 at least i won't lose much from a restore 11:21 ok. i have to go for a bit, thanks for looking at it 11:21 maybe the real evilhack is the saves we lost on the way 11:22 <@Pacra> the evilest of hacks, surely? 11:24 the savegame error has been the bane of my modding career, in this case it looks like evilhack had some timered object that got removed without removing its timer and then upon trying to save it couldn't find the object, hence the crash 11:25 in slex I've had that happen when I didn't clean up containers correctly, i.e. a function deleted the container but didn't make sure to remove timers from objects that were inside (e.g. eggs) 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Pri Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an elder minotaur, on T:5845 11:25 the emergency save of his crashed game didnt have every level file in it it seems 11:26 hothraxxa i've restored from the nightly backup 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 76 points, T:18, killed by a water moccasin 11:26 LarienTelrunya hmm 11:27 light source timer? 11:27 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received Vorpal Blade from The Lady, on T:25177 11:27 that could also be a reason, they're likewise timered objects 11:27 do monsters interact with lamps, candles and stuff in eh? 11:27 well gnomes will spawn with lit candles but thats vanilla 11:27 otherwise no 11:28 only thing i can think of is gold dragon armor 11:28 K2: seems like my game just crashed 11:28 username davidkent 11:28 yup on it 11:29 recovered 11:30 excellent 11:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) was given Magicbane, on T:13320 11:30 went back in time a little bit 11:30 to just before i stepped on a polymorph trap, ruining my robe but turning into an elder minotaur 11:31 backtrace of your crash - https://termbin.com/c50e 11:31 so right before the crash, you hit something as a minotaur? 11:31 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 8412 points, T:6385, killed by an exploding wand, while sleeping 11:31 *elder 11:31 <@Suzune Takada> oops 11:31 <@Suzune Takada> I converted the altar 11:31 indeed 11:31 what did you hit 11:31 <@Suzune Takada> but storm elemental 11:32 <@Suzune Takada> 😦 11:32 a dwarf 11:32 <@Suzune Takada> sometimes convert the altar is risky in variants 11:32 with my starting mace 11:32 what role are you playing dk657 11:32 priest? 11:32 yep 11:32 illithid priest 11:32 ok thanks 11:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) was given the Silence Glaive, on T:13475 11:33 if (uwep && Role_if(PM_PRIEST) && (is_pierce(weapon) || is_slash(weapon) || is_ammo(weapon))) { 11:33 uwep and weapon are probably not always the same?! 11:33 i've had issues with the priest weapon restrictions before 11:34 first one to crop up in a long while 11:34 ok gotta go plant peas and stuff 11:34 ok heh 11:34 its snowing here wooo 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed tins of golden naga meat", on T:23122 11:34 just flurries 11:35 here too a little! 11:35 but the peas shouldn't mind 11:35 have a good day! 11:36 you too 11:36 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:33770 11:37 Why golden naga meat? 11:37 LarienTelrunya i wonder if weapon should be switched to uwep 11:38 K2: well I don't know what the code is doing, but my guess is that weapon is undefined if dk657 is bare-handed (and in minotaur form he probably is) 11:39 i.e. the code checks whether "uwep" is defined, but then asks whether "weapon" is a piercing weapon, without making sure that "weapon" exists? 11:39 he said he was still wielding his starting mace 11:39 oh? hmm 11:39 i'll run a couple scenarios 11:39 still, it strikes me as potentially dangerous to not check whether "weapon" exists 11:41 easy to re-create the crash thats for sure 11:42 yup just when he was wielding the mace 11:42 barehanded is fine 11:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:43 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 11:43 oink 11:46 yup switching 'weapon' to uwep' there does the trick 11:47 'uwep' 11:47 <@Suzune Takada> F - the invisible blessed greased +7 catapult named Agora (alternate weapon; not wielded) {2} 11:47 <@Suzune Takada> firearm artifact in slex? 11:48 @Suzune Takada: it's a sling, but yeah it's an artifact 11:48 "Agora" being the greek version of the catapult used by Xenophon in his crusade against the Persians :P 11:48 k2: thanks for the restore. it set me back a lot further than i thought it would 11:48 <@Suzune Takada> ah sling 11:49 anyway, i am also an illithid priest. perhaps that role has issues 11:49 why don't I see you playing though? 11:50 hothraxxa the crash you had had nothing to do with the role 11:50 ok 11:50 <@Suzune Takada> I'm reading ascended log of slex 11:50 this - https://termbin.com/lbqq 11:50 <@Suzune Takada> (of course I CAN'T ascend in slex) 11:51 <@Suzune Takada> 100 floors... too deep 11:51 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:53 gold huh 11:53 need that sickness resistance 11:53 oh, yes! 11:53 <@Suzune Takada> gold dragon scale mail... isn't it just light source? 11:53 not in evilhack 11:53 dk657 i pushed a fix for that crash, shouldnt happen again 11:53