00:00 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> initial stats of wizard lol
00:00 <rld> <Suzune Takada> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/698019511168663622/wizard.png
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00:01 <Andrio> That's quite a silly wizard.
00:01 <bouquet> nowhere to go but up
00:02 <aosdict> I think you accidentally rolled a knight or something.
00:02 <aosdict> Wait, a knight would never start with a Dex as high as 13.
00:02 <dingotron> So I ran into K2 the barbarian (peaceful) down around dl17. we chilled.
00:03 <K2> :)
00:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:22767
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00:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 1136 points, T:1250, taken down by an orc zombie
00:12 <dingotron> and... now I just foo-proofed my used lamp. because I'm an idiot. 
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00:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:799
00:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1936
00:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 355 points, T:2172, killed by a gnome, while being frightened to death
00:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3150 points, T:3340, killed by a bolt of lightning
00:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 721 points, T:1818, killed by an Aleax of Ptah
00:56 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> sometimes, if a nymph has wand, it became dangerous
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01:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 2387 points, T:3252, poisoned by a bone orcish arrow
01:17 <K2> bed time
01:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 172532 points, T:27229, killed by brainlessness
01:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had a pair of dwarvish boots entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:1412
01:35 <K2> ok bed time for real :P
01:36 <Umbire> +2 dwarvish boots of restful sleep
01:37 <Umbire> (+1 nightcap of sweet dreams not included, results may vary, void where prohibited)
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02:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Bob (tkirkby) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 30417 points, T:1940, killed by a gnome
02:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 177 points, T:510, sent to the grave by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food
02:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 159 points, T:778, slaughtered by a death maggot, while fainted from lack of food
02:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:36238
02:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:36240
02:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:36241
02:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 speed boots", on T:36242
02:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 17 points, T:113, slaughtered by a rabid rat
02:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:36426
02:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 65 points, T:401, slain by a fox
02:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 431 points, T:1630, taken down by a dwarf
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02:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:36639
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04:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Cha Alc Fem Neu), 4293 points, T:2823, killed by a monster (angular tuit)
04:06 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
04:07 <Andrio> just don't try to write spellbooks with spelling like that.
04:07 <mobileuser> hehe
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04:18 <LarienTelrunya> What spellbook do you want to write? "magic marker"
04:25 <mobileuser> no it wasn't for spellbooks :-)
04:25 <mobileuser> not a spell caster
04:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:713
04:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 193 points, T:1220, killed by a dwarf
04:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:244
04:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 58 points, T:488, killed by a small mimic
04:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:390
04:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 143 points, T:414, killed by a giant rat
04:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Shelob, on T:28240
05:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:531
05:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 100 points, T:917, killed by a water moccasin
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05:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] User (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 379 points, T:1216, killed by a raven
05:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:1106
05:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1441
05:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 402 points, T:1489, killed by a worthless piece of yellowish brown glass
05:25 <Andrio> Not quite worthless apparently.
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05:32 <rld> <@luxidream> rougelike
05:32 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
05:33 <Andrio> You see here a blessed figurine of a bat named Rouge-like.
05:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] rougelike (Luxidream) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:24, killed by an orcish dagger
05:35 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
05:35 <Andrio> Rouge-like hits! You die...
05:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] rougelike (Luxidream) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:12, killed by kicking a roguelike
05:35 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
05:36 <Andrio> Did you actually get bested by a goblin?
05:37 <rld> <@luxidream> I was trying to kill myself by kicking a roguelike when the goblin snuck up on me
05:37 <Andrio> so you died by kicking a goblin?
05:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:30056
05:55 <Andrio> Rip Team a
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06:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 axe", on T:31007
06:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:392
06:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1357
06:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 254 points, T:1492, killed by an iguana
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06:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2536
06:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3014
06:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3316
06:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3316
06:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3538
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06:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 510 points, T:4866, killed by a rock mole
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07:42 <K2> morning
07:48 <nabru> morning
07:49 <bhaak> moin moin
07:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 195 points, T:423, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
08:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 470 points, T:1245, killed by a straw golem
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08:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:494
08:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] rougelike (Luxidream) (Wiz Orc Fem Law), 247616 points, T:39221, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2020-04-10%2012%3A04%3A44%2C%20rougelike-Wiz-Orc-Fem-Law%2C%20ascended.txt
08:04 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
08:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:669
08:04 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
08:06 <mobileuser>  congrats rougelike!
08:06 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
08:06 <aosdict> congrats for figuring out a way to trigger Eternal Guardian twice in a row, luxidream
08:07 <rld> <@luxidream> apparently someone already registered it on hdf sadly
08:07 <rld> <@luxidream> rougelike2
08:07 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
08:10 <amateurhour> it was me that registered it on hdf, sorry :P
08:11 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
08:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rougelike2 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:416
08:12 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
08:12 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
08:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:1015
08:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 437 points, T:1027, killed by a giant ant
08:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rougelike2 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 315 points, T:813, killed by a gecko
08:13 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
08:13 <aosdict> can we stop please
08:13 <rld> <@luxidream> im done
08:13 <amateurhour> delet bot
08:15 <rld> <@luxidream> Just imagine clan rougelite in junethack/tnnt though
08:15 <mobileuser> Hi K2, it looks like my evilhack game crashed after I got disconnected. I has been more than 10 minutes and still no luck.
08:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 41 points, T:879, overpowered by a jackal
08:18 <porkman> oh, i figured out why the compile was broken, i actually had pork'em open
08:19 <porkman> retrying with fingers crossed
08:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:364
08:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:464
08:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 461 points, T:696, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze
08:26 <K2> mobileuser ok one sec
08:27 <K2> mobileuser, game recovered
08:27 <mobileuser> thx K2! :-)
08:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 434 points, T:911, killed by a jumping spider
08:30 <porkman> you know what i am realising
08:30 <porkman> code makes sense, it has no room for nuance, it's precise and ascetic
08:30 <porkman> i like that
08:31 <amateurhour> ah you haven't yet experienced crushing defeat at the hands of poorly written coworkers' code
08:31 <porkman> heh
08:32 <dk657> whoa whoa whoa, what is this "code makes sense" business?
08:32 <aosdict> yes I was about to say "please excuse me while I go HAHAHAHAHA"
08:32 <porkman> just a first impression :p
08:32 <aosdict> "code makes sense"
08:32 <aosdict> omg
08:33 <dk657> have you ever tried looking at code you wrote /yesterday/?
08:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 381 points, T:708, overpowered by a goblin, while sleeping
08:33 <porkman> well, i still don't know how to write code
08:33 <dk657> when you were apparently in some sort of hallucinogenic trance?
08:33 <porkman> but, i'll figure it out with time and banging head on wall
08:34 <amateurhour> probs worth looking at some kind of crash course in C fwiw to understand what things mean
08:34 <K2> porkman just do what I do: i slam my fists on the keyboard like a gorilla. statistically speaking, eventually the right combo of numbers and letters will be pressed, and i can compile something
08:35 <K2> i make the sounds too if that helps
08:35 <porkman> do you all write code as a profession?
08:35 <K2> <--- not a programmer
08:35 <amateurhour> I do
08:35 <Muad> <-- not employed
08:35 <Muad> I'm a Tourist.
08:35 <aosdict> that is my profession yes
08:36 <K2> i'm an IT sysadmin. fear me
08:36 <K2> :P
08:36 <dk657> i'm in grad school for stats, so i write bad code a lot
08:37 <dk657> but i am certainly not a programmer
08:42 <porkman> nope, i've definitely broken the first compile. yay!
08:43 <porkman> but maybe i have to run setup.bat and nhsetup.bat first
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09:07 <porkman> ok, so i'll restart from scratch and compile one change at a time
09:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:568
09:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1196
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09:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1762
09:21 <nabru> I write code sometimes, but most of my work is sysadmin/support
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09:25 <porkman> heh, it's a steep learning curve
09:25 <porkman> but then again so was playing slex
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09:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 907 points, T:2053, killed by a giant ant
09:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 27 points, T:80, killed by a water moccasin
09:38 <amateurhour> damnit
09:38 <amateurhour> there was a grid bug in the mine's end place
09:41 <dk657> well did you have to kill it though
09:42 <amateurhour> I was digging to the luckstone
09:42 <amateurhour> didn't think I was close to the cache
09:42 <amateurhour> bop, conduct gone
09:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:24993
09:48 <mobileuser> it must have been suggested before to give you a warning when you use a pick-axe as a weapon for the first time and you still have the conduct...
09:49 <amateurhour> I would like that
09:50 <amateurhour> but I'm certain there's people that would disagree
09:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:668
09:50 <elenmirie_> I think xnethack warns you if you're going to break pacifist or weaponless
09:51 <elenmirie_> or at risk of
09:51 <aosdict> only if non-beginner
09:51 <elenmirie_> in the case of pacifist
09:51 <mobileuser> that sounds fair to me. at least apply that to pick-axe in vanilla.
09:51 <aosdict> mobileuser: Special casing pick-axes isn't the way to go.
09:52 <K2> i've said this before - its not a viable conduct if the game holds your hand and prevents you from breaking said conduct
09:52 <amateurhour> they're already special in that they're tools that are also weapons
09:52 <aosdict> we have fundamentally different views of what conducts are
09:53 <K2> look up the definition of what a conduct is, what it means
09:53 <mobileuser> with a pick-axe you don't intend weapon use 99% of the time
09:53 <K2> if someone or something else is doing the work for you, you're not having to *conduct* yourself to do the thing
09:53 <LarienTelrunya> slex has a playable race with enforced atheist conduct, i.e. actions that would break it just flat out won't work, does that count? :D
09:53 <K2> this is very simple
09:54 <amateurhour> did you beat the game without using a weapon? with a warning the answer is still yes
09:54 <amateurhour> what's the problem with that?
09:54 <K2> sure, but its no longer a conduct YOU performed
09:54 <aosdict> I don't think anyone actually likes trying to follow a conduct and then making a typo and it's gone
09:54 <amateurhour> what do you mean lol
09:54 <K2> the game did it for you
09:54 <jilles> K2, so you think the Zen option isn't a conduct? ;-)
09:54 <K2> which means it means nothing
09:54 <amateurhour> the game didn't play the 35k turns or whatever, I did
09:54 <LarienTelrunya> aosdict: I think rebatela does... ;)
09:54 <Andrio> So zen isn't a conduct?
09:55 <K2> jilles in a way no it isnt. the game is forcing you to adhere to a certain set of rules
09:55 <aosdict> jilles: well, technically... it's not in the conducts flag of the xlog :) but it's treated exactly like a conduct by the game and the entire community
09:55 <amateurhour> get rid of paranoid attack then
09:55 <amateurhour> get rid of any ui feature setting
09:55 <amateurhour> just don't mess up 4head
09:55 <K2> hah
09:56 <amateurhour> honestly if we could get a pickaxe that counts as a tool
09:56 <amateurhour> then I'd be happy with that as well
09:56 <K2> there you go aosdict. count a pick-axe as a non-weapon
09:57 <aosdict> not the right solution. then people would be mad that they can't use and enchant it as a weapon
09:57 <K2> awwww
09:57 <K2> but the conduct!
09:57 <K2> lol
09:57 <amateurhour> add a third pickaxe so arcs aren't nerfed
09:57 <amateurhour> donezo
09:57 <K2> EasyHack coming right up
09:57 <aosdict> that's just inflating the object pool
09:57 <K2> hah
09:57 <LarienTelrunya> add an option to change pick-axes from weapon-style to dig-style, e.g. via #invoke, and in dig-style they only do 1-2 damage and don't break the conduct :P
09:58 <aosdict> K2: changing aspects of the game that only affect conducts does not make something 'easyhack' since it doesn't affect the base game
09:58 <{Demo}> lol evilhack is just easyhack
09:58 <K2> its one step towards it
09:58 <amateurhour> yeah but if u add it the game plays itself 4 u
09:59 <{Demo}> i ascend it in my sleep every night
09:59 <amateurhour> it warns u about losing weaponless then autotravels u to the amulet
09:59 <K2> {Demo} hah
10:07 <mobileuser> Another thing is that if you want to (R)emove something and you mistype, you can (T)ake off a piece of armor by accident. I would really prefer it if R and T could never be mixed up.
10:08 <amateurhour> think paranoid remove can help with that
10:08 <amateurhour> but what am I saying, game plays itself
10:08 * amateurhour might be a little salty :P
10:09 <mobileuser> I must admit I never studied the paranoid options
10:10 <amateurhour> they're quite handy
10:10 <LarienTelrunya> it asking which piece you want to remove should be the standard behavior...
10:11 <amateurhour> ^
10:11 <mobileuser> yes, I see now, there is a paranoid remove option
10:12 <mobileuser> but that just applies if only 1 item is relevant
10:12 <aosdict> I tend to agree, since the game lacks a ready way of determining how many pieces of jewelry you are weraing
10:12 <aosdict> wearing
10:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:15, killed by a water moccasin
10:13 <amateurhour> wereing, lycanthropic jewellery
10:14 <aosdict> Your amulet turns into a werewolf!  The werewolf hits!  You die...
10:14 <amateurhour> EPI: were-ring, autocurses and while worn gives uncontrollable lycanthrophy
10:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:3020
10:15 <LarienTelrunya> slex has such a ring :D
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10:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3308
10:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] SuzuneTakada (Dea Bre Fem Cha) averted death, on T:1744
10:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] SuzuneTakada (Dea Bre Fem Cha), 860 points, T:1753, killed by a monster (resurrected plant)
10:22 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> slippery glove 😦
10:23 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> ah. silly question, does slex have all of the branches in slem? (like alignment quests, black market)
10:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2328 points, T:3491, killed by a black unicorn
10:23 <LarienTelrunya> they technically exist, but don't always have their slashem contents
10:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:296
10:26 <amateurhour> good luck mobileuser!
10:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 103 points, T:452, killed by a fox
10:27 <mobileuser> thx amateurhour!
10:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:543
10:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 538 points, T:533, killed by a bolt of lightning
10:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:6
10:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:226
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10:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:807
10:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2581
10:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 861 points, T:2877, killed by a giant ant
10:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:461
10:43 <porkman> so what's the difference between SPFX_foo and cary(foo)
10:43 <porkman> in an artifact
10:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:617
10:43 <porkman> does the latter specifiy which abilities it gives while carried
10:43 <porkman> and the others are wielded?
10:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:882
10:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:1037
10:45 <bouquet> K2: were you waiting for me to finish my game last night so you could update xnh?
10:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1758
10:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1790
10:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Baphomet, on T:34381
10:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2418
10:55 <porkman> Cannot open dungeon description - "dungeon" from "C:\Games\slam32d\nhshare" file! 
10:56 <porkman> that's happening again even on a fresh github download and compile
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11:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:2848
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11:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3738
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11:23 <rld> <@Pacra> !who
11:23 <Beholder> @Pacra: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] Delraven [un] xyzyxx [xnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] Raisse [nh370] hilliance [nh370] etai [nh370] fxenakis [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players
11:23 <rld> <@Pacra> @mobileuser taking a break before ascent?
11:42 <aosdict> 8 zorkmids doesn't seem like much, but with the amount of adventurers going through these days, it adds up
11:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Daemon, on T:34736
11:46 <porkman> hi
11:46 <Beholder> Hello porkman, Welcome to #hardfought
11:47 <K2> o/
11:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Glasya, on T:35010
11:52 <APic> \o
11:52 <APic> !PoM
11:52 <Beholder> APic: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 11 days.
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12:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:5218
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12:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 56 points, T:179, killed by a boiling potion
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12:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] rouge legacy (Luxidream) (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 21840 points, T:1571, killed by a death ray
12:33 <Umbire> Ow
12:38 <rld> <@riker> amy, you here?
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12:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Car Inf Nbn Cha), 1686 points, T:2634, struck down by a dwarf, while praying
12:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pir Inf Nbn Cha), 10 points, T:115, killed by opening a silver container
12:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6504
13:05 <K2> ooh copper
13:06 <K2> :P
13:08 <rld> <@Pacra> copper weapons should get a bonus against Kops
13:08 <elenmirie_> Lugh is clearing out his junk drawer
13:08 <elenmirie_> sooner or later he'll get bored and crown me
13:09 <aosdict> that would be a pretty funny pun based mechanic
13:09 <aosdict> YANI ^^^
13:10 <aosdict> if anyone ever implements bronze golems, someone should name one You'll Never Catch Me Copper
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13:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Arc Hum Fem Law), 582 points, T:1368, killed by a small mimic
13:14 <elenmirie_> What do you want to ready? [- $bABY or ?*]
13:14 <rld> <@Pacra> !who
13:14 <Beholder> @Pacra: [hdf-us] Karnac [nh370] arnibald [spl] hyperion67 [spl] Pacra [dnh] groovejumper [fh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] hilliance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
13:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 29512 points, T:1510, killed by a housecat
13:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8851
13:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3031 points, T:4, killed by a falling rock
13:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1753 points, T:1145, killed by a boulder
13:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 10440 points, T:744, killed by a fox
13:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1745 points, T:1670, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a potion
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13:31 <LarienTelrunya> @riker now I am
13:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 23657 points, T:1251, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping
13:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 153 points, T:1078, mowed down by a parrot called Unikitty
13:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 11761 points, T:304, killed by a fox
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13:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 5 points, T:160, killed by a system shock
13:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2271
13:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 31784 points, T:2335, killed by a wolf
13:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 757 points, T:3225, mowed down by a little dog
13:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the monk of CROM, the former Candidate, on T:1304
13:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) stole 23 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Sipaliwini's general store, on T:2517
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14:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1683 points, T:2244, slain by a giant ant
14:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 418 points, T:384, sent to the next life by a small mimic
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14:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 1339 points, T:1782, taken down by a Grim Reaper
14:10 <rld> <@PsyMar(he/they)> !pom
14:10 <Beholder> @PsyMar(he/they): The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 11 days.
14:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Cha), 37628 points, T:3930, killed by a winter wolf
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14:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:80, killed by a fox
14:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 10810 points, T:423, killed by a sewer rat
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14:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2082
14:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:27816
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14:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of unchanging", on T:9924
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14:54 <hothraxxa> k2: casting slow monster inside an air elemental often fails. why is that?
14:54 <hothraxxa> i don't think it ever fails in vanilla, unless there's been a recent change
14:56 <K2> i didnt do anything in regards to that
14:56 <{Demo}> sure sounds like a BUG
14:56 <K2> air elementals have a monster MR rating of 30
14:56 <{Demo}> someone better squash it before it eats all my laundry
14:56 <K2> so there's a chance it will fail
14:57 <{Demo}> wow
14:57 <amateurhour> "fixed vanilla bug where slow monster could free you from my air elementals"
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14:57 <K2> all elementals have monst MR 30
14:57 <K2> thats vanilla
14:57 <hothraxxa> it sure fails a lot then
14:58 <K2> for you right this instant, yes
14:58 <hothraxxa> also charm monster doesn't seem to ame black dragons today. have you messed with that?
14:58 <K2> no
14:59 <hothraxxa> no, i meant to bring this up after my last ascension. i had a horrible time on the plane of air because slow monster simply failed most of the time, both wand and spell
14:59 * K2 jots down 'hothraxxa wants me to mess with dragon MR'
14:59 <hothraxxa> i am not exaggerating when i say most
15:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:925
15:00 <hothraxxa> saved up wands specifically to deal with air elementals
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15:00 <{Demo}> my thoughts, use a scroll of elemental wrath on them
15:00 <K2> dunno what to tell you hothraxxa, i didnt mess with that
15:01 <K2> maybe you just had shitty rolls
15:01 <{Demo}> hey hothraxxa, wiz test it locally and do a lot of trials
15:01 <{Demo}> and see if it averages out to something wrong
15:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1226
15:01 <{Demo}> and then slam dunk on k2 if it does
15:01 <hothraxxa> well if he didn't change it then i am just a victim of terrible luck
15:02 <hothraxxa> i bleieve him when he says he didn't change it
15:02 <{Demo}> like so hard he'll have to add a new branch just about how broken slow monster was
15:02 <{Demo}> yeah but what if he broke it on accidentM
15:02 <hothraxxa> i suppose
15:02 <hothraxxa> plane of air was one of the worst i've ever experienced
15:03 <K2> The air elemental seems to be moving slower.
15:03 <K2> ^ first zap
15:03 <hothraxxa> even when i got expelled i was immediately engulfed again. many times
15:03 <{Demo}> if I were an air elemental I'd have intrinsic speed
15:03 <hothraxxa> whut? i never get that message
15:03 <amateurhour> I assume it's been casted from inside the elemental K2
15:03 <K2> i'm testing that next
15:03 <hothraxxa> if i am engulfed, i simply either rip a hole or nothing happens
15:03 <K2> gotta be thorough
15:04 <hothraxxa> oh. i never try to slow them if i'm not engulfed
15:04 <{Demo}> one time I asked the norn "if u were an air elemental would u blow me?" and got kicked out of the quest :(
15:04 <hothraxxa> pervert
15:04 <amateurhour> oh you norndog
15:04 <{Demo}> not putting on an amulet of change as a valk again, 0/10
15:05 <hothraxxa> anyway best i can seem to do with these black dragons is make them peaceful
15:05 <K2> this is weird
15:05 <hothraxxa> oh?
15:06 <K2> let it engulf me
15:06 <K2> first zap, nada
15:06 <K2> second zap, this:
15:06 <K2> What do you want to zap? [t-zA or ?*] ?
15:06 <K2> In what direction? 4
15:06 <K2> You disrupt the air elemental!  A huge hole opens up...  You get expelled from the air elemental with a woosh!
15:06 <hothraxxa> yes
15:06 <{Demo}> lmao
15:06 <K2> ^ wand of slow monster
15:06 <amateurhour> that sounds like the usual message
15:06 <hothraxxa> it is
15:06 <K2> every zap, i'd check it with a stethoscope
15:06 <K2> its not slowed
15:06 <hothraxxa> it doesn't hurt it either
15:07 <K2> true, it has its max hp
15:07 <K2> ok so lets test this in vanilla
15:07 <amateurhour> I think you slow part of the vortex down, [something something air pressure difference], get expelled
15:07 <amateurhour> that's what happens in vanilla fwiw iirc
15:09 <K2> in vanilla, same thing
15:09 <K2> this time its slowed
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Pri Hum Fem Law), 327 points, T:1348, killed by a small mimic
15:09 <porkman> so now pork'em won't compile, but neither will a fresh installation of slex
15:09 <hothraxxa> how about failure rate?
15:09 <K2> need more tests, because it has a decent % of MR it may not be slowed everytime you're expelled
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15:10 <rld> <@riker> porkman what did you do lol
15:12 <K2> back in evilhack, engulfed and expelled 10 times using wand of slow mo
15:12 <K2> its not slowed 
15:12 <K2> every time
15:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:14694
15:12 <K2> hmm
15:13 <rld> <@Pacra> oops
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15:13 <K2> ok this is also weird
15:13 <K2> zap it with wand of slow mo outside, its slowed
15:14 <K2> i get engulfed, zap wand of slow mo inside and get expelled, its not slow anymore
15:14 <rld> <@riker> what did you do pacra
15:14 <hothraxxa> that really is screwed up then
15:14 <K2> wtf did you do hothraxxa
15:15 <hothraxxa> wasn't me, i was out of town that day
15:15 <porkman> Riker, i dunno
15:16 <rld> <@Pacra> @riker pressed right instead of left when kiting a monster in a treasure vault that could onehit me
15:16 <rld> <@riker> which monster?
15:17 <rld> <@Pacra> an ammit
15:17 <rld> <@riker> ah yeah
15:17 <rld> <@Pacra> second try I was able to kite correctly
15:17 <rld> <@riker> nice
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15:19 <K2> hothraxxa i'll have a more thorough look later today
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15:20 <hothraxxa> ok, thanks
15:23 <K2> why you gotta find more stuff wrong? wasnt bhaak fixing the magic portals in shops thing enough?
15:24 <rld> <@riker> oh, what was the fix?
15:24 <K2> @riker you didnt know?
15:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:48636
15:24 <rld> <@riker> I know it was nrooms not being incremented
15:25 <rld> <@riker> I didn't know that bhaak figured out why
15:25 <K2> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3fb83f1dbea8d32f5e2d46b05f961fed26bb726f
15:25 <K2> yeah he was seeing same beavior with his unnethack 3.6 wip
15:25 <K2> *behavior
15:25 <rld> <@riker> ahhh
15:25 <rld> <@riker> makes sense
15:25 <K2> i didnt even know about fixup_special()
15:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had a silver dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:5121
15:31 <amateurhour> You see here a silver saber named Grayswandir.
15:32 <amateurhour> fake-weaponless monk
15:32 <amateurhour> already lost the conduct from pickaxe shenanigans, what do
15:32 <hothraxxa> maybe i should just stop for the day. just dipped into a potion of polymorph, nothing happens
15:33 <hothraxxa> 5% chance
15:33 <amateurhour> lol
15:33 <hothraxxa> i'm on a real string of low probability events
15:33 <rld> <@riker> amateurhour: stay strong in your deity
15:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6443 points, T:10741, killed by an ogre, while sleeping
15:34 <amateurhour> maybe I should purposefully die so someone can get it in bones
15:34 <hothraxxa> well shit. this time nothing seems to happen and now i still have a bag of holding but no potion of polymorph
15:34 <K2> hothraxxa its time to play the lottery
15:34 <hothraxxa> well if these were in my favour, sure
15:35 <nabru> Don't worry, you will go outside to buy lottery tickets and a meteor will hit you
15:35 <K2> what are you doing? dipping a BoH in a potion of polymorph?
15:35 <hothraxxa> i don't know what the odds are of polying a bag of holding into another bag of holding but i'm guessing they're pretty low
15:35 <hothraxxa> yes
15:36 <K2> i dont know either, i typically dont do that
15:36 <hothraxxa> meh. i picked up this boh and a potion of poly, why not dip 
15:36 <hothraxxa> don't need either of them
15:36 <hothraxxa> might get my magic harp, you never know
15:37 <hothraxxa> besides, carrying more trhan one boh... well
15:37 <amateurhour> had a blessed spellbook of finger of death as well, gl on bones
15:37 <amateurhour> :P
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15:39 <hothraxxa> great, now i found cleaver just lying around
15:39 <K2> hothraxxa fyi, in 0.5.0 player monsters are no longer an infinite source of BoH
15:40 <hothraxxa> oh really
15:40 <K2> really
15:40 <{Demo}> so i can't just blast bohs in my bathtub for fun?
15:41 <K2> it was making BoH trivial
15:41 <K2> balance fix
15:41 <{Demo}> its a shame you caught onto that
15:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54408
15:41 <K2> thanks for mentioning it {Demo}
15:41 <{Demo}> i was gonna build a car
15:41 <{Demo}> powered by bohsplosions
15:41 <K2> no you werent
15:41 <{Demo}> but no, now i can't cruise around the dungeon in style
15:41 <K2> we all know you cant turn a wrench
15:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:54426
15:41 <{Demo}> you're right, i wasn't gonna live that long
15:42 <K2> :P
15:42 <amateurhour> what did you change with them?
15:42 <K2> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/2be463713c0caa95ad2764680b4c61a6807b722e
15:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:54479
15:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:10559
15:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:54722
15:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:54726
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:386
15:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Roger Dodger (hyperion67) (Arc Hum Mal Law), 15968 points, T:371, quit
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16:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 316 points, T:1119, killed by a giant rat
16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:49534
16:07 <amateurhour> nice
16:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Delta (nabru) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 26056 points, T:821, quit
16:10 <rebatela> scroll back- amateurhour: I found Grayswandir in the Persesus statue once instead of the regular silver saber there is a chance of (also was playing weaponless-monk) 
16:11 <rebatela> are Bags of Holding rare or something now? I also dip into potions of polymorph, spellbooks or magical items i don't need 
16:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:1131
16:15 <porkman> in my first slex ascension i found grayswandir in a grave in the village on dlvl6 :p
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16:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Ran Orc Mal Cha) murdered Sirius, his faithful little dog, on T:119
16:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:50358
16:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 501 points, T:1779, killed by a hobgoblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze
16:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1607
16:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2752
16:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:864
16:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:3436
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16:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1553
16:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:7531
16:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Fem Law), 267 points, T:966, killed by a large kobold
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17:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:71221
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:71223
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 81 points, T:963, killed by a jackal
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2564 points, T:3042, killed by an owlbear
17:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:71478
17:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 467 points, T:1821, killed by a giant bat
17:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:987
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17:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:602
17:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:71819
17:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:71821
17:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1798
17:20 <mobileuser> K2, a bit surprised by this:
17:20 <mobileuser> The image of Jon the invisible Reaver shimmers and vanishes! Jon the invisible Reaver attacks you by surprise!
17:20 <mobileuser> Status of Jon the Reaver (chaotic): Level 17 HP 82(108) AC -23, can't move, invisible
17:20 <K2> he has displacement
17:21 <mobileuser> He can't move, so the "attacks by surprise" message is a bit strange
17:21 <K2> but
17:21 <K2> yeah that
17:21 <aosdict> did he actually attack?
17:21 <mobileuser> Also, he is invisble
17:21 <mobileuser> *invisible
17:21 <amateurhour> it appears that you are in fact surprised :^)
17:21 <mobileuser> I thought invisibility overrides displacement
17:21 <aosdict> it ought to
17:22 <mobileuser> meta-surprised :-)
17:22 <K2> but you can see invis right?
17:23 <K2> so technically he's not invis to you
17:23 <mobileuser> Ah that's right
17:23 <K2> but yeah i've added this to the bug tracker
17:23 <K2> thanks
17:23 <mobileuser> aosdict he never attacked
17:23 <mobileuser> cheers K2!
17:24 <aosdict> does a Ranger hunting Scorpius on their Quest count as a bug tracker?
17:24 <K2> yes
17:25 <aosdict> I deserve pun-ishment for that one
17:25 <K2> wait maybe... arachnids arent bugs right? only insects are bugs
17:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1070
17:26 <aosdict> technically speaking only "true bugs" (a subset of insects) are bugs, but in common parlance people would consider arachnids (spiders) bugs
17:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1517671 points, T:72251, poisoned by Demogorgon
17:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1226 points, T:2030, killed by a gnome lord
17:33 <Bliss56> Who invited that bastard to my party? Such ill manners.
17:33 <K2> :(
17:33 <K2> there's no shame in dying to demogorgon though
17:34 <rld> <@Pacra> aw @bliss56
17:34 <Bliss56> I had double trouble with the Wiz at the same time. Bit hectic, healed every chance I got, but it wasn't enough.
17:35 <Bliss56> Ah well, there's always the next game.
17:37 <Bliss56> Woulda been a streak, too, I think.
17:38 <K2> ugh
17:38 <Bliss56> New for the wish list: DEMONBANE.
17:39 <Bliss56> It wouldn't stop Rodney from gating, but might have been useful in doing some harm.
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17:42 <K2> yeah demonbane is one of those artifacts, you dont need it until you do
17:42 <aosdict> rodney doesn't gate anything anyway, he just casts summon nasties
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17:42 <Bliss56> that's what I meant.
17:42 <aosdict> demonbane likewise won't stop a nalfeshnee from summoning nasties which include other demons
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17:48 <K2> but it would have stopped a demon from gating in demogorgon
17:52 <Bliss56> I think Rodney may have summoned him?
17:52 <Bliss56> As a nasty?
17:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1116
17:54 <K2> perhaps :/
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18:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:51242
18:01 <rld> <@Pacra> howd you get past demo in first place?
18:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2395
18:03 <mobileuser> it helps to have a spare wish for a footrice corpse...
18:03 <K2> they were playing vanilla. demogorgon wont show unless summoned somehow
18:03 <mobileuser> yeah but what if he shows up
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 526 points, T:2278, killed by a little dog
18:04 <Bliss56> Pacra, that last battle was the only time I saw Demo. He was summoned or gated in right there.
18:07 <rld> <@Pacra> ohhh i didnt glance and assumed eh
18:07 <K2> :)
18:07 <rld> <@Pacra> thats a major yikes for a double trouble+demogate
18:08 <Umbire> Wait what happened
18:08 <Umbire> Demo sighting?
18:10 <Bliss56> Yup, Demo cut my ascension run short.
18:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3901
18:18 <Umbire> Oh WOW
18:18 <Umbire> !lastgame Bliss56
18:18 <Beholder> Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1586056238.nh.html
18:18 <Umbire> Yep, looks like rodney
18:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3997
18:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1058 points, T:2169, killed by a bolt of fire
18:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:870
18:26 <dk657> holy smokes gnomish wizards are mean in evilhack
18:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3073
18:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 27479 points, T:8986, killed by a black unicorn
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18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by naming Sting, on T:2069
18:31 <bouquet> "The gnome wields a bow named Bow of SuzuneTaka!" Should I run?
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1753
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1819
18:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 541 points, T:961, defeated by a dwarf lord
18:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 1991 points, T:3678, killed by a jumping spider, while praying
18:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Hum Fem Law), 114 points, T:193, killed by a boulder
18:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Geryon, on T:52016
18:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4276 points, T:6287, killed by a leocrotta
18:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 111 points, T:574, killed by a fox
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18:43 <nabru> You swap places with your kitten.  The kitten falls into a pit!  The kitten is killed!
18:44 <nabru> oof
18:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:788
18:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:460
18:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:412
18:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3232
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18:50 <dk657> at least you can swap places with yr pet
18:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed hyperion67's ghost, the former Digger, on T:1150
18:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3748 points, T:3075, killed by a human mummy
18:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1135
18:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1787
18:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 492 points, T:1232, killed by a kitten, while unconscious from rotten food
18:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1866
18:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2007
19:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1088 points, T:2292, poisoned by a killer bee
19:02 <rld> <@Pacra> @dk657 yeah, gnomish wizards have some nasty stuff when you meet them up to and including minetown in eh
19:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1118
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19:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1549
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19:13 <rld> <@Pacra> termux is pretty good for viewing games on mobile
19:13 <rld> <Pacra> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/698309710369128529/Screenshot_20200410-191247.png
19:13 <rld> <@Pacra> here's bliss56's game
19:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1972
19:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:40212
19:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:442
19:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Hum Fem Law), 545 points, T:2452, killed by a black pudding
19:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:755
19:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4245
19:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Hum Fem Law), 4011 points, T:3536, killed by a large dog
19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4404
19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:50
19:50 <nabru> got too lucky for my own good
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19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4437
19:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1279
19:54 <aosdict> nabru: death incoming? :)
19:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:417
19:54 <nabru> aosdict: I guess so :)
19:54 <mobileuser> darn connection abort
19:55 <mobileuser> gotta wait 10 minutes now
19:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 732 points, T:1347, killed by a wolf, while helpless
20:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1252
20:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1272
20:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1281
20:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 431 points, T:1373, killed by a watchman, while frozen by a potion
20:01 <nabru> yay, that was dumb of me, of course
20:01 <nabru> accidentally attacked a watchman
20:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Mon Gia Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril dwarvish helm on an altar, on T:3558
20:01 <rld> <@Pacra> @nabru how'd you accidentally attack him?
20:02 <nabru> @Pacra accidentally attacked a peaceful monster for some stupid reason, then got the watchman angry. Instead of running away as fast as I could from my mistake, tried to fight him
20:03 <nabru> All of this began because I wanted to ID some scrolls by using them and was afraid one of them was destroy armor and would destroy my GDSM
20:03 <nabru> So I took the GDSM off, the scroll I read was of teleportation
20:03 <nabru> and I had dropped the GDSM on the ground for some silly reason
20:03 <aosdict> YANI: watchmen don't yell at you to stop picking a lock if you're using a key
20:06 <aosdict> rebatela: evilhack unofficial conduct idea, play a giant monk who only deals damage through thrown boulders
20:06 <Umbire> aosdict: yes pls, I hate that so much
20:06 <Umbire> Even though it only comes up if you take >1 turn
20:06 <aosdict> I'm definitely not the first person to suggest that, but I don't think it's on the archive
20:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:122
20:12 <mobileuser>  <10 minutes later> Hi K2! :-)
20:12 <mobileuser> Can you restore my evilhack game please? Got disconnected again.
20:13 <Tangles> mobileuser: Not sure K2 is here... What server?
20:13 <mobileuser> hardfought eu
20:13 <K2> i'm here
20:14 <K2> i already have a terminal up, i can do it Tangles
20:14 <mobileuser> \o/
20:14 <Tangles> ok coool
20:14 <Tangles> :)
20:14 <Tangles> How are you doing K2?
20:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] tkirkby (Ele Alc Fem Neu), 13394 points, T:3060, killed by a monster (Detective Sergeant)
20:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6645
20:14 <K2> mobileuser game is recovered
20:15 <mobileuser> Thanks again K2!
20:15 <K2> Tangles i'm well, how you doing? havent heard from you in awhile, wondered if your internet crapped out or something
20:15 <Tangles> Sorry I missed you last night. Was doing some work on my PC, and had to keep disconnecting.
20:15 <K2> aaahhh
20:15 <Tangles> Nah just been really busy.
20:15 <K2> that explains it
20:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:775
20:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 438 points, T:948, killed by a falling rock
20:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 18 points, T:57, killed by a jackal, while praying
20:20 <Tangles> Last night I was trying to get my folding rig sorted.  Turns out my 2008-manufactured GeForce 9400 GT was not up to the task.
20:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:260
20:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1359
20:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:468
20:23 <Tangles> So I'm just doing CPU work units now... the Ryzen 2700x crunches through them fairly quickly, but they are not worth as many points :/  Unfortunately my motherboard doesn't support overclocking (I had not considered folding back when I bought all this stuff)
20:24 <K2> ugh
20:25 <K2> yeah that reminds me i should get my folding rig back up and running
20:25 <K2> i have a couple geforce 750Ti's not doing anything I think
20:26 <Tangles> Yeah they would do the job :)
20:26 <rld> <@riker> tangles: for folding@home?
20:27 <Tangles> Yeah
20:29 <mobileuser> I think I just teleported Pestilence away by accident (I was stunned). I thought that was not possible.
20:29 <bouquet> is there an ARMv7 folding package yet?
20:29 <rld> <@riker> mobileuser: it's a 12/13 chance for him to zoop to you
20:29 <Umbire> 1/13
20:29 <Umbire> Pog
20:30 <mobileuser> so I got lucky :-)
20:30 <Umbire> sure did
20:30 <mobileuser> nice
20:31 <Tangles> K2: I decided last night that 12 years was enough for a cheap video card, and ordered a GTX 1650 Super... I haven't seen any benchmarking on it, but it fits the budget and has 1280 CUDA cores and a decent clock, so it should be better than what I've got!
20:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1050
20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:1094
20:38 <K2> Tangles oh my :)
20:38 <K2> nethack at 487,999,345,109 fps
20:39 <nabru> 3D nethack!
20:39 <nabru> nethack played on dual 4k displays!
20:39 * K2 plays nethack on a 4k display fullscreen in putty
20:40 <K2> and it looks crisp
20:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1371
20:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 210 points, T:1426, killed by a sewer rat
20:51 <rld> <@Sig> Is there a reason to name Sting and Orcrist? Don't they mostly just reduce your chances of finding good artifacts later?
20:51 <rld> <@riker> in what variant?
20:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 130 points, T:389, killed by a sewer rat
20:51 <rld> <@riker> they don't reduce your chances of finding any in any variant, I think
20:51 <rld> <@Sig> Vanilla, that's where I see most people doing it.
20:51 <rld> <@riker> only wishing chances
20:51 <rld> <@Sig> I was thinking sac chances
20:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 67 points, T:65, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs
20:52 <rld> <@riker> sacrifice other than the "elves can guarantee" stormbringer?
20:52 <rld> <@riker> also, I think the existing artifact chance doesn't go up very fast, it's "gifts * <total artis, counting gifts>" in vanilla
20:53 <rld> <@riker> so it's not a huge downside to name sting now, especially if you're not planning on going for a ton of gifts?
20:53 <Tangles> lol K2 I don't even play nethack on that machine.
20:54 <K2> :)
20:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:3190
20:57 <Umbire> @Sig: Chaotics do it to force Stormbringer
20:57 <rld> <@Sig> Oh, alright. I thought it just counted all artifacts. Also didn't know about the Stormbringer thing.
20:57 <Umbire> Elves can actually guarantee
20:57 <Umbire> rest it's a 50/50 between that and grimtooh
20:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) destroyed amateurhour's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3473
20:57 <Umbire> Grimtooth*
20:57 <Umbire> Which Elves can't ever get
20:58 <Umbire> (as a gift)
20:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:106
20:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:350
21:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 990 points, T:1145, killed by a gnome lady
21:00 <rld> <@Sig> Neat
21:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:99
21:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:174
21:10 <dk657> huh, i turned into a wererat
21:11 <dk657> you'd think a rat would be able to squirm out of whatever device fastens the iron ball to its ankle
21:11 <aosdict> YANI ^
21:11 <aosdict> polymorph as a means of escape from punishment
21:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 822 points, T:2429, killed by a rothe
21:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:789
21:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:831
21:15 <mobileuser> Haha, evil streak!
21:16 <K2> nice mobileuser congrats!
21:17 <nabru> congrats mobileuser !
21:17 <mobileuser> Thank you!
21:17 <Tangles> lol evil streak. Nice one!
21:18 <mobileuser> On to 0.5.0 :-)
21:18 <dk657> congrats mobileuser!
21:19 <K2> mobileuser i fixed the 'attacks you by surprise' bit with immoble monsters that are displaced
21:19 <aosdict> mobileuser: were they both convicts?
21:19 <K2> it'll go live tonight sometime in 0.5.0
21:19 <mobileuser> first priest second convict
21:19 <K2> thats impressive
21:20 <mobileuser> quick work K2 to have that fix already in, wow!
21:21 <K2> luckily some fixes are easier than others :)
21:21 <Umbire> GG mobileuser !
21:21 <Umbire> Also you can already polymorph to escape punishment
21:21 <Umbire> Whirly/unsolid forms
21:21 <mobileuser> Thanks all! 2:20 am here, bedtime. See you!
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21:23 <K2> gnite mobileuser
21:24 <rld> <@Pacra> eh streak, quite impressive
21:24 <Umbire> aosdict: Amorphous, whirly, and unsolid forms can free themselves
21:24 <Umbire> dk657: ^
21:25 <Umbire> I think the reason for small forms not being able to escape is probably because it's a "magical" punishment
21:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 429 points, T:1483, killed by a little dog
21:27 <dk657> Umbire: but a nymph can just steal the ball?
21:28 <Umbire> Nymphs are magical :B
21:28 <Tangles> Nymphs are magical. They can take off uncursed armor too.
21:28 <Umbire> And also likely to steal everything-but-the-ball
21:28 <dk657> that's why ya gotta get nude first
21:28 <Umbire> Or
21:28 <Tangles> Not a big deal as an early convict... Do you want the cursed stripe shirt, or the ball? Take your pick :)
21:28 <Umbire> Just become a nymph and jimmy off the chain yourself
21:29 <Umbire> That's lit. their #monster command
21:30 <Tangles> Usually you have a bit more gear by the time you start meeting nymphs, though.
21:30 <Umbire> Yep
21:31 <Umbire> And by the time you've discovered them you usually won't have time to get away and undress/stash if nude
21:31 <Umbire> I mean you could just drop everything on the floor nearby, but...
21:31 <aosdict> Umbire: Right, this is just about turning into a MZ_TINY form (a MZ_SMALL form would probably still be unable to escape)
21:31 <Tangles> Although sometimes as a convict I play with the fountains early for a chance to uncurse the shirt. Occasionally you get an early nymph that way.
21:31 <Umbire> If it's tiny then I personally wouldn't object to adding that to the pool
21:32 <Umbire> Just with that logic in mind idk if it'll happen, though it seems likelier compared to MZ_SMALL
21:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Katje, her faithful kitten, on T:1637
21:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Vam Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:3458
21:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 513 points, T:1347, killed by a coyote
21:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:10910
21:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:10939
21:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:53074
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21:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11197
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21:44 <dk657> weird, a half-shop half-non-shop room? separated by lava?
21:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 10343 points, T:8096, killed by an energy vortex
21:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:11209
21:46 <aosdict> dk657: welcome to evilhack
21:47 <rld> <@Sig> dk657, that happened to me in evil too. It's weird. You can basically run from the shop for free, though I didn't stick around to see how bad the penalty for shoplifting was going to be.
21:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11344
21:52 <dk657> i wonder if they'd have let me in if i were wearing my striped shirt
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21:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:11818
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21:56 <Umbire> Nope, probably not
21:57 <rld> <@Pacra> @Sig having accidentally stolen from an evilhack shop because a magic portal was placed inside the shop,
21:57 <rld> <@Pacra> its not that bad
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22:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3771
22:03 <rld> <@Sig> Really? I figured if any variant was going to make the Kops actually threatening it would be evil
22:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:22724
22:08 <rld> <@riker> sig: have you hit the dnh K yet?
22:09 <rld> <@Sig> I was just about to rob a shop, should I reconsider?
22:22 <rld> <@riker> do not ever rob in dnethack
22:22 <rld> <@riker> NEVER directly steal
22:23 <bug_sniper_> in dnethack, you get some sort of curse if you rob a shop
22:23 <bug_sniper_> there's some sort of monster that could get summoned instead of kops
22:23 <aosdict> doesn't sepiroth from final fantasy come after you
22:23 <rld> <@riker> i'ts not a curse, it's the kop replacements
22:23 <rld> <@riker> which SUCK
22:23 <aosdict> sephiroth? however you spell that
22:24 <rld> <@riker> yeah give or take aosdict
22:24 <rld> <@riker> but you'll basically get 2 hordes (10+ each) of yellow K, which have a shock grabbing attack that gates more
22:24 <rld> <@riker> with a 3/5 chance to just not die when you kill them
22:24 <rld> <@Sig> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
22:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 3879 points, T:4601, killed by a balrog
22:25 <rld> <@Sig> Thank you for warning me then, lol.
22:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] musicdemon (Kni Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:5073
22:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:53521
22:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:40, killed by a fox
22:26 <rld> <@riker> just kill the shopkeeper
22:26 <rld> <@riker> it's a small price to pay for not death
22:26 <Umbire> They're actual angels, aosdict
22:26 <Umbire> Sephirot is an order of angelic being in
22:27 <Umbire> I know it was Jewish lore
22:27 <Umbire> But the specific source eludes me
22:27 <aosdict> Umbire: yeah but dnh is heavily final fantasy influenced
22:27 <Umbire> Maybe Kabbalistic?
22:27 * Umbire google
22:27 <Umbire> Sefirot (/sfɪˈroʊt, ˈsfɪroʊt/; Hebrew: סְפִירוֹת səp̄îrôṯ), meaning emanations, are the 10 attributes/emanations in Kabbalah, through which Ein Sof (The Infinite) reveals Himself and continuously creates both the physical realm and the chain of higher metaphysical realms (Seder hishtalshelus). The term is alternatively transliterated into English as sephirot/sephiroth, singular sefirah/sephirah etc.
22:27 <Umbire> On the money
22:28 <Umbire> there *are* other actual FF influences tho :B
22:30 <rld> <@riker> they're not at all
22:30 <rld> <@riker> they're the d&d inevitables
22:30 <rld> <@riker> https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Inevitable
22:32 <Umbire> Well then that's the basis for the names at any rate
22:32 <Umbire> also whew 1d4chan links
22:32 <Chris_ANG> Turns out there are surprisingly few mythological few mythological beings that have much to do with the letter 'K' <_<'
22:33 <Umbire> lol
22:33 <Chris_ANG> And 'I' was already taken for "Invisible", so it had to be 'K'
22:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:24136
22:35 <Chris_ANG> The names *sorta* make sense if you look up the translation, the order they occur on the tree, and squint,
22:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9454
22:35 <Chris_ANG> but they stop making sense if you look up anything else about Kabbalah.
22:36 <Chris_ANG> FF Sephiroth is also Kabbalah themed. I forget where I first learned about Kabbalah but it might have been because of Sephiroth.
22:37 <Chris_ANG> Though, if you have to squint to make dnh's K make sense, I think you have to close your eyes for FF's Sephiroth :P
22:37 <aosdict> is there any connection between sephirah and seraphim
22:38 <aosdict> very similar words
22:38 <aosdict> very similar beings
22:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13909
22:44 <Chris_ANG> Not a clue
22:48 <dk657> i think the connection is the quality of the makeup
22:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 894 points, T:3750, killed by a hill orc
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23:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:908
23:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 430 points, T:1233, killed by an exploding crystal ball
23:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Torpid (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3483
23:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:55004
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23:38 <Umbire> Any developments with Blargo?
23:38 <Umbire> Last I have is him killing Beelze
23:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:17541
23:44 <aosdict> YANI: Slight consumable/renewable nerf to the spell of knock: It can't be used to escape from an engulfing monster, while the wand of opening retains the ability to do it. Possibly give a YAFM ("You knock on the inside of [monster], but nothing seems to happen.")
23:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 802 points, T:2408, killed by a rabid rat
23:53 <Umbire> Nice
23:53 <Umbire> aosdict the NI machine