00:00 [hdf-us] [sp] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a war hammer named Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:15327 00:00 sounds like you are good to go 00:00 no MR? 00:00 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:01 Might wish for another grey dragon scale mail. 00:01 is evilhack demonbane a silver mace or is it a sword? 00:03 bouquet its a mace. of excellence 00:03 silver mace 00:05 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 00:08 <@Sig> Does perm_invent work normally on dnh? I tried importing my settings from evil and everything's the same except they don't have the perm_invent 00:08 -!- dingotron has joined #hardfought 00:08 not sure. curses mode is quite a bit more refined on 3.6/3.7 than 3.4.3 00:09 although Tangles did do a fair amount of work making curses function a lot better on a lot of 3.4.3 variants 00:09 good move. I'm glad mace got some silver love. 00:11 <@riker> sig: yes 00:11 <@riker> turn it on in the options in-game 00:11 <@riker> it can be buggy 00:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:60802 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4680 00:17 <@Sig> Working now, thanks yall. 00:17 \o/ 00:18 bedtime... gnite all 00:20 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 00:20 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 00:22 [hdf-us] [sp] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 147896 points, T:17166, killed by a giant zombie 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3376 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4708 points, T:4283, killed by an ochre jelly 00:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2318 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:164 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:344 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 447 points, T:851, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:236 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:385 01:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Mal Neu), 7256 points, T:3668, killed by a gnome 01:04 <@Sig> Things were going so well, and then I got really greedy. 01:04 <@riker> ouch 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 307 points, T:894, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 01:15 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:23 All right. Ascension run time 01:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:38 A voice booms out... "So thou thought thou couldst elude me, fool." 01:38 Well... you made a run for it. 01:50 <@Suzune Takada> In spl/evil, if a player monster steals my amulet and offer, what's the game over message? 01:55 You can hear again. You hear some noises. 01:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1822 02:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:09 <@Sig> Congrats 02:09 Thanks~ 02:10 I don't think I've seen the guardian angel ascend before 02:14 also, this happened: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ux4vqkvzfv1g3f/annotation%202020-04-08%20161412.png?raw=1 02:20 <@Sig> Lol 02:21 <@Suzune Takada> congrats 02:28 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:31 <@Sig> Why are there so many zombies in Minetown Is that a dnh thing? 02:42 <@luxidream> Congrats Andrio 02:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:54 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:55 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:55 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 02:55 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:56 <@microlance> good thing there was a chaotic altar next to the murder scene 02:57 So this is how you repay loyalty? 03:10 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 03:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 03:11 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:15 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:21 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:38 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "+3 blessed gray dragon scale mail", on T:1973 03:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:56 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:3620 03:59 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:00 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 7053 points, T:3832, killed by an Aleax of Mitra 04:00 <@Suzune Takada> whoops laeax 04:03 An Aleax this early in the game??? 04:06 Lawful gods can throw them at you. 04:06 in UnNetHack any god can. 04:06 wow 04:07 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/SuzuneTakada/evilhack/dumplog/1586330047.evil.txt 04:07 intense game 04:08 Welcome to experience level 3. You feel healthy! The death ray bounces! The death ray hits you! 04:09 really?? or are you pulling my leg? :-) 04:09 Wizard mode 04:10 nice :') 04:10 🤣 04:13 TIL you can't turn a monster into slime while it's paralyzed? 04:18 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 31 points, T:82, killed by the wrath of Set 04:40 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1473 points, T:1551, killed by a giant mimic 05:01 Apparently stealing things as a nymph doesn't count as pet abuse and doesn't even anger peaceful monsters unless you miss 05:02 so don't miss 05:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:03 Are you testing stuff in wizard mode Andrio? 05:03 Yeah. 05:04 Nice 05:05 Can a xorn take a shortcut on the astral plane to reach the altars? 05:05 That is what I'd like to test :-) 05:06 You can't phase through the walls there 05:06 Ah darn, they thought of that. 05:06 You can phase through doors though. 05:08 I now see I could have just read the wiki. Lots of stuff on the wiki. :-) 05:15 What I can't find on the wiki: if you are a giant, can you push boulders? Or do you have to pick them up? 05:16 I don't think you can push boulders as a giant. 05:17 Right, but then I wonder how you can play sokoban in the variants if you play as a giant. 05:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:36 in evilhack? you can push boulders 05:36 if the boulder can't be moved you automatically go in the same square as it 05:36 and as for sokoban as a giant 05:36 Ah thx! I wondered about that. 05:37 stepping over a boulder gives luck penalty, including for boulders you drop yourself 05:37 but that stops when the level is cleared 05:37 so you can bring a stack of boulders, fill the holes one-by-one, then pick up all the boulders ready for next floor 05:37 which makes sokoban very quick 05:38 Ah interesting! 05:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 yellow dragon scale mail", on T:16477 05:44 YASI: rename blood puddings to "game over". :D 05:46 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:51 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 05:51 hi 05:51 Hello porkman, Welcome to #hardfought 06:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:17792 06:08 <@Suzune Takada> tmi: my first role in slex is transvestite 06:08 it's a fun role :) 06:08 <@Suzune Takada> and I always choose non-binary gender in spl 06:09 <@Suzune Takada> man is wearing high heel :) 06:09 yaaaaaaaay! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 06:09 amateurhour: I wonder if that was considered. the commit messages suggest no. where would you get a stack of boulders so early on? 06:13 just randomly around the dungeon really, I've nearly always had enough to do the first sokoban floor 06:14 and then the extra boulders on each floor add up 06:21 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:23 probably not intended for vanilla. in unnethack, you can't pick up the boulders sokoban at any time but the giant's ability of squeezung easily onto a boulder's square without luck penalty comes in handy. 06:23 are there other variants that change the Sokoban rules? 06:29 no idea, sorry 06:29 though if someone polymorphs themselves into a giant to cheese sokoban in vanilla 06:29 then I think that should be rewarded, personally 06:31 <@Suzune Takada> I think only evilhack is playable with giant race 06:31 <@luxidream> fourk 06:32 amateurhour: doesn't fit with all the other ways in Sokoban that make creative Sokoban solving impossible or punished 06:34 <@Suzune Takada> in unh, what's the first monster to genocide? arch-lich? 06:34 <@luxidream> vorpal jabberwock :p 06:34 <@Suzune Takada> ah 06:34 <@Suzune Takada> they are dangerous. I forgot 06:35 but I think they don't appear before gehennom? 06:39 Neither do arch-liches. 06:40 And I've seen vorpal jabberwocks in Vlad's, so... 06:47 slex also has a giant race and it's much less restrictive, they can wear armor like everyone else ;) 06:50 How? 06:55 LarienTelrunya, I'd say the armour restrictions are exactly the point 06:56 they are what makes giants different from other races 06:56 heh, slex's giant race is different, they have intrinsic uncurable hunger and cannot have slow digestion 06:57 <@Suzune Takada> yasi: the lusty argonian maid (from tes) 06:58 <@Suzune Takada> but no maid uniform in any variant 06:58 hahahahahahaha why didn't I think of that one yet :D 06:58 slex's giants sound less like giants and more like fat gluttons 06:58 @Suzune Takada: slex has a maid dress!!! and since I'm in the process of adding slex monsters just now, I'll add them :D thanks ♥ 06:59 <@Suzune Takada> ahh 06:59 hunger would be a minor distinction only 07:01 this kind of sucks. I'm only on DL3 (no pickaxe). Downstairs must be in room I can't get at because door is locked and shallow water is preventing me from being able to kick 07:01 mines are blocked so need to go down in dungeon 07:03 nvm 07:03 found another room 07:03 Do they eat people? 07:09 @Suzune Takada nethack brass also has a maid dress. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Maid_dress 07:10 <@Suzune Takada> wow 07:10 <@Suzune Takada> set equipments for female player 07:11 lol @ aggravate monster if male wears 07:14 -!- murphy_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:15 <@Suzune Takada> some races in variants are difficult to play 07:15 <@Suzune Takada> e.g. lycanthrope in slem, ghoul in spl 07:15 <@Suzune Takada> ghoul players can only eat rotten food... but how to get them 07:18 oh wow. so you have to let corpses rot and go back to them? or carry with you? 07:22 <@Suzune Takada> let corpses rot and continue to battle? 07:22 <@Suzune Takada> plus, they can eat the corpse of zombies/mummies 07:23 <@Suzune Takada> but still the most difficult race in spl 07:23 <@Suzune Takada> (maybe werewolf - they are just the lycanthrope in slem) 07:26 <@Suzune Takada> ah. zombies are peaceful to ghoul player :( 07:37 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 411 points, T:1365, killed by an invisible gnome lady 07:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] rad (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 353 points, T:430, killed by an orcish dagger 07:44 * NCommander pies LarienTelrunya 07:44 mmmmm, pie! 07:44 hi NCommander :) did you like my new slex LP continuation? 07:44 I haven't had a chance to read it 07:45 aww 07:45 I biked 35 mi/57 km yesterday 07:45 I glanced at IRC, then collapsed 07:45 what you're still doing that even now? 07:45 No, just within NYC 07:45 I was going entirely crazy being locked in an apartment 07:45 but isn't NYC totally covid-infected? 07:46 Exercise is allowed as long as you keep distance. 07:46 Not hard on a bike 07:46 So I biked to the city limit. 07:46 ah nice 07:46 yeah, NYC is *large* 07:46 [hdf-us] [fh] Remoh (Remohw) (Bar Orc Mal Law), 28044 points, T:1196, quit 07:46 Like large enough to be hard to walk across in a day 07:47 well I'm not familiar with such large cities, the biggest one I've been to in germany is Frankfurt but it's probably tiny compared to NY 07:50 LarienTelrunya, best way I can describe it is it's not a place you could easily walk from end to end in a day 07:50 heh I'm not even sure I could walk from one end of Frankfurt to the other in a day 07:50 morning all 07:50 Morning 07:51 LarienTelrunya, you need to harnass that Germany efficency. Every step needs to be 1 meter long, and then march! :) 07:51 hmm Frankfurt is about 250 km^2 07:51 what would be the diameter of that... 07:52 @Suzune Takada sorry you ran into a mind flayer larva in the mines. but that incident helped me find and resolve 3 bugs 07:52 heh 07:52 LarienTelrunya, think pizza. pi z (radius) squared times area 07:52 uhh 07:53 Well of a circus 07:53 https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=diameter+of+250km^2+circle 07:53 I dunno if frankfrut is a circle. I'd think it was more hotdog shaped :) 07:53 love wolframalpha 07:53 i remember when that first came out... over 10 years ago now? 07:53 its been awhile 07:53 I really like bangpatterns in ddg, can just slap a !wa in there to query wolfram alpha 07:53 or !nh to search nethack wiki 07:54 i use it for things like 'what is 1 + 1' 07:55 or 'how many sides does a square have' 07:55 :D 07:55 lol it reports typical human computation times for 1+1 07:55 age 6: 3.2 seconds | age 8: 1.8 seconds | age 10: 1.2 seconds | 07:55 age 18: 0.83 seconds 07:56 I think I tok less than 3.2s to do 1+1 at age 6 07:56 *took 07:56 K2: 13.45 seconds 07:56 LarienTelrunya, hrm, is it me, or is BIGSlex a bit easier because you have more chances to find shit per level? 07:57 NCommander: it does give more opportunities for loot, yes, but levels also take longer to explore and the monster/trap density was increased to match the bigger size 07:57 I cant remember if SLEX has auto explore or not ... 07:57 and since slex gets harder as time goes on, it's more likely that the player encounters trouble later, or at least that's the theory 07:57 ugh autoexplore 07:57 in DCSS I call the autoexplore button the game over button :P 07:58 not once have I survived after accidentally slipping on that button 07:58 the char autoexplores at one move per frame, and until I finally realize what is going on and hit a button to stop it, I'm already in a dead end and trying to move out of it reveals that there's now 20 ogres and 10 death yaks waiting for me :P 08:00 LarienTelrunya, I like it a lot for constant maze levels of vanilla 08:03 heh 08:03 my preferred method of exploring full-screen mazes is called "pick-axe" :P 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 39 points, T:218, killed by a fox 08:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] rad (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 579 points, T:1448, killed by a kitten, while helpless 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 167 points, T:238, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 08:11 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 182 points, T:593, killed by a bat 08:15 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:26 LarienTelrunya, same \o/ 08:26 * NCommander has ordered a new desktop computer for the near future ... 08:27 i want to replace mine with a fanless 08:27 i have an intel nuc and the fan is starting to crap out 08:27 and its *loud* 08:27 which makes me sad 08:27 how come you're using one of those? 08:27 cuz they are awesome 08:28 non-ironically? 08:28 ^ that 08:28 they're small and wicked fast 08:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:21602 08:28 and i dont need a computer with a dedicated gfx card 08:28 we have some at work, maybe 2 years old now, but they're really choking on things 08:28 blame your IT for misconfiguring it 08:29 can't handle 4k streaming on a webpage particularly well for example 08:29 I know what the real problem is 08:29 well yeah.. 4k streaming 08:29 it has a particularly nasty form of malware on it 08:29 called windows 08:29 you need something beefier for that 08:29 hah 08:29 hah 08:30 i run win10 pro on it, runs just fine 08:30 <{Demo}> speculative memory attack mitigation patches slowing it down as well? 08:30 but i also know wtf I am doing 08:30 my computer at work has been up for almost 30 days, hope Windows doesn't break itself 08:30 because my workplace is at lockdown and I won't be able to reboot it easily 08:30 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:31 firefox in particular chokes on a bag of dong for it, unless hardware acceleration is disabled 08:31 hmm 08:31 in which case it blows equally as much as chrome and opera 08:32 omg use ie 11 problem solved... 08:32 LOL 08:32 haha 08:32 :P 08:32 we have an older application that still needs IE. I cringe everytime I need to use it 08:32 but in all seriousness, i need to find a nuc sized fanless system 08:32 nabru yeah same, a lot of us govt websites still rely on activex 08:33 which is the dumb 08:33 LarienTelrunya, I'm caught up with your LP. SLEX gets stranger and stranger 08:33 raspberry pi 4 seems pretty neat so far, but not tried using without a fan 08:33 also we have an app that depends on Flash, I don't want to see what happens when Chrome kills support for it 08:33 <{Demo}> raspi is made to be kept at too low a price 08:33 NCommander: more so than before? how? :D 08:33 really impressive specs on the rpi 4 tho 08:33 <{Demo}> I want something NUC sized with one of the latest beefiest new ARM cpus in it 08:34 pi's are great but i wouldnt use it for a desktop system 08:34 we use some at work for specific things 08:34 just suck it up and build the biggest best machine ever 08:34 then remote into it 08:34 :) 08:34 heh 08:34 symbiants. Yeah, one step away from Futurama's brain slugs 08:37 i the pi 3 b+ or whatever. pretty rad for what it is 08:37 *i have 08:39 it's interesting that a shopkeeper is offended by my striped shirt, but if he can't see it, he doesn't mind that i'm carrying an iron ball chained to my leg 08:41 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 08:41 they probably recall that one time they read a scroll from their wares 08:41 lol 08:47 i love the different messages i get when monsers attack me in evilhack 08:47 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 08:48 -!- ais523 is now known as ais532 08:48 -!- ais532 is now known as ais523 08:51 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 1735 points, T:3524, killed by a rothe 09:05 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 09:18 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Sam Gul Nbn Law), 4392 points, T:2993, done in by a winter wolf 09:19 <@Suzune Takada> ghoul is tricky but doesn't seem to be too difficult race 09:23 "You aren't permitted to genocide vorpal jabberwocks" 09:23 darn 09:24 now I just made things worse likely :-) 09:32 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:40 FIQ: how do I throw single daggers from a stack as a rogue? f1 still throws multiple daggers. 09:40 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 260 points, T:1123, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 09:41 hackedhead, n1f 09:41 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:42 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 122 points, T:537, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 09:42 Andrio: thanks 09:49 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1427 points, T:1533, killed by a water demon 09:49 [backscroll] dk657 yeah me too, I really liked adding that to the game 09:49 'descriptive hit messages' 09:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:50 dk657 you should try monk then :) 09:50 Heh 09:50 I had a mod for NetHack 3.4.3 which added that 09:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:51 adds a lot to the game imo 09:55 You hack Demogorgon! 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:874 09:56 Andrio if you get a chance, give monk a try in evilhack. the combat feedback is neat 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:979 09:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1941 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1112 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1426 10:02 -!- dingotron has joined #hardfought 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1034 points, T:1522, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 10:03 -!- dingotron has quit [Client Quit] 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 118 points, T:314, killed by a water moccasin 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:16542 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:5 10:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:19955 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1439 10:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:20663 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:806 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:924 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1071 10:29 OK, hitting Vlad with a cockatrice corpse is not a valid strategy in evilhack 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:1229 10:30 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 10:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:3686 10:31 back to strength now after potions of restore + full healing, wielding Stormbringer, time to think of a new plan :-) 10:33 :) 10:33 just having drain res is half the battle with vlad 10:33 elder priest is down 10:33 now, for the asc run 10:33 yeah K2 grateful for that! 10:33 we have an elder priest down... i repeat, an elder priest is down 10:35 also learned today that genociding J to get rid of vorpal J is a no no. 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Arch Priest, on T:41383 10:35 perhaps I need to value wands of cancellation more... 10:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:35 why, mobileuser? 10:36 because you can't genocide vorpal J in evilhack :-( 10:36 lol 10:36 so all the J become vorpals 10:36 i genocided m in dnhslex once 10:36 yup, BIG mistake 10:36 so all easy mimics vanished 10:36 except for one breed of truly kickass ones 10:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Windrider", on T:21610 10:37 porkman there are a couple more J's in evilhack 10:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:37 Dr. J, DJ Jazzy Jeff, ...? 10:37 yeah that 10:38 yeah fortunately some "easier" ones that also don't go away with genocide 10:38 !PoM 10:38 APic: The moon is full for 2 more days. 10:39 theory: I have GDSM which cancels attackers. If I carry AoLS against vorpal J I should be fine. Do I believe i that theory... 10:40 you mean wear it 10:40 WEAR 10:40 don't forget to wear! :-) 10:40 hehe 10:42 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:43 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11454 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:18343 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2472 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:615 10:45 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:18373 10:45 ahhhh throne wish \ 10:45 whew killed that chameleon 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3010 10:48 you never realize how cool auto unlock is until you have it 10:48 and then if you dont have it, you become sad 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:18763 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:18764 10:51 yes! that's exactly how I felt while evilhack didn't have it 10:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 24755 points, T:8315, killed by a baluchitherium 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3281 10:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:65059 10:55 i was afraid to get used to it in case evilhack didnt adopt 10:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:22482 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6295 11:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:66568 11:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:66571 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2049 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2230 11:24 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1805 points, T:2413, killed by a giant ant 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:4252 11:38 yay I found sting in the soko zoo. yay... 11:38 heh 11:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:67120 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 4 points, T:219, killed by a jackal 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5292 11:51 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:52 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Client Quit] 11:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:69815 11:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:69818 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:42233 12:03 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the ghost of woodstea23, the former Acolyte, on T:14118 12:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:14 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6189 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7919 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:39479 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:484 12:23 My pet got into a shop and is stuck into a "picks up a spellbook"/"drops a spellbook" loop 12:23 :D 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6669 12:24 He just broke free somehow 12:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:33 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 12622 points, T:12289, taken down by a spotted jelly 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:43259 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrices), on T:5457 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5899 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:43158 13:17 well 13:17 <@riker> not an awful gift? 13:18 i'm illithid. max strength without gauntlets of power is 13 13:18 so dragonbane is nice but not for me 13:20 <@riker> ah 13:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1759 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 24353 points, T:7674, killed by Yeenoghu 13:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:41022 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:41025 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "Blessed fixed +3 Gray Dragon Scale Mail", on T:7752 13:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (cockatrice), on T:711 13:48 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:49 illithid race saw a stats adjustment for 0.5.0 13:49 max str and con went down, dex up 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a Kop Lieutenant, on T:9406 13:52 \o/ 13:53 lieutenant dan! 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:41117 13:53 you got the job you always wanted 13:53 gratz on the career change, former priest 13:53 but lt dan... you aint got no legs 13:54 lol 13:57 this is me right now in the gnomish mines - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2531/source 13:58 i have a whopping 5 max hp 13:59 I forget Kops are valid polyforms sometimes lmao 14:00 oooh boy... bottom of the mines is a vampire level 14:00 i dont quite feel ready for this. kinda 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20783 14:02 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 14:03 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2186 points, T:3396, mowed down by a parrot 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8969 14:12 ooh a mithril saber. nice drop 14:12 too bad i'm a priest 14:13 is that a nice drop? 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1114 14:13 yeah 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44142 14:17 just get a gift saber from your god to unrestrict it 14:17 4Head 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10918 14:18 are you making a joke there, umbire? 14:18 <@riker> can't 14:18 ^ 14:18 <@riker> in evilhack you get penalties for using edged weapons as priests 14:18 big penalties 14:18 huge 14:18 that's more or less the joke lmao 14:18 only the biggest penalties 14:18 <@riker> yugeee 14:18 iirc your god won't even give you an edged weapon? 14:18 farewell iron ball 14:18 though genuinely did not know about the penalties 14:18 <@riker> yeah aosdict 14:19 <@riker> I think there was a bug where you still got an edged crowning gift as well 14:19 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed tins of spinach", on T:14209 14:19 i got a bigger penalty than you 14:19 I just know unrestricting would've been less worth than actually getting a good weapon 14:19 i killed my quest leader 14:19 roundabout solutions are funny 14:19 Umbire its a thing in evilhack. as a priest if you try to use an edged weapon, there's YUGE to-hit penalty plus you can piss of your god 14:19 see now I'm confused 14:19 why would it bother your deity specifically 14:19 you're an umbire hulk 14:20 hothraxxa: fuck I've been discovered ::[ 14:20 Umbire in d&d that's how it is 14:20 priests and edged weapons = no 14:20 no, see 14:20 I get that from like, a mechanical and even a fluff angle 14:20 ah 14:20 but specifically the point of "using bladed weapons angers your deity" 14:21 like what gives, what specifically is up with that 14:21 jesus doesnt like it 14:21 <{Demo}> jesus is in the sword description 14:21 <{Demo}> in nethack 14:21 <@riker> say no to edged weapons today 14:21 mmmk? 14:21 children, edged weapons are bad, mmmk? 14:21 jesus got stabbed with a spear. ever since, he doesn't approve of any edged weapon 14:21 * Umbire glances sideways in "expert in spear" 14:22 spears aren't really edged weapons 14:22 unless that was changed for evil 14:22 ikr? 14:22 it was 14:22 <{Demo}> wait maybe not, maybe thats a dnh thing? 14:22 hothraxxa did you kill your quest leader on purpose? :) 14:23 in vanilla spears are all piercing weapons 14:23 what does d&d say about those 14:23 <{Demo}> ah yeah no, it is a dnh thing 14:23 slash/pierce - off limits 14:23 k2: i had too, he wouldn't pacify 14:23 to 14:23 <{Demo}> jesus isn't even in vanilla 14:23 ugh 14:23 after the quest 14:23 well at least its not game ending 14:23 what made him angry? 14:24 on my way back from the quest i accidentally angered him. he had to go 14:24 <@riker> demo: tha'ts got to be a 3.6 change, there's too many data.base jesus entries for chris to have done them all? 14:24 ah 14:24 K2: then wouldn't the sensible thing to do in evilhack been to extend priest penalties to piercing weapons rather than redefining spears as bladed? 14:24 oh. well i have no stethoscope. a camera wound up in my scope slot, and muscle memory flashed it at him 14:24 i didnt redefine spears as slash 14:24 <@riker> hm, well it's not grunt 14:24 oh I though that's what you said 14:24 alex i'll take assumptions for 800 14:25 :P 14:25 <@riker> demo: I guess when chris added a lot of encyclopedia entries, a bunch had jesus in them 14:26 hothraxxa did you get a good pic? 14:26 is it frame-worthy? 14:26 he blinked 14:26 damn 14:26 well now that he's dead... he wont blink 14:26 i used up two scrolls of taming trying to settle him down 14:26 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10469 14:27 wewt 14:27 i thought there might be a livelog event for doing that but i didn't see one 14:27 when did you do it? 14:27 yeah there should be if there isnt 14:27 this morning some time 14:28 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Arch Priest, on T:41383 14:29 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:29 btw i think illithids should get a special #monster attack, which is 4 brain eaters 14:29 oh. i looked for that and missed it 14:29 https://www.hardfought.org/irclog/ <--- Tangles setting that up, genius 14:30 i keep getting caught offguard by getting satiated from brain eating. iirc i can't choke that way, right? 14:31 correct 14:31 Made it to D:1 with the amulet agani 14:31 on slex 14:31 otoh if i don't notice and chow down on something... 14:31 if you wanna see slex endagme 14:31 nice 14:31 i've dropped the amount of nutrition you get as illithid brain eating about as far as i can without getting rid of it outright 14:31 which server you on porkman ? 14:31 em.slashem.me 14:33 porkman and Tariru... Tariru and porkman... porkman IS Tariru! Tariru IS porkman! 14:33 OMG 14:34 * K2 starts dry heaving 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1359 14:37 i swear, i am not 14:37 the greatest mystery of our generation 14:37 solved at last 14:37 heh 14:38 no, _I_ am sporkticus 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1649 14:39 sure, if by "reached" you mean "stepped on a level teleporter and entered minetown, dazed and confused" 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1739 14:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) had a dusty spellbook given to him by Camaxtli, on T:11011 14:43 magic mapping. hell yeah 14:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 3281 points, T:5299, killed by a gnomish wizard, while praying 14:48 alright, going in 14:49 guys, porkman entered the planes 14:49 ~~it's happening~~ 14:51 Vlad destroyed by a black dragon he summoned! Justice. 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1350 points, T:3236, killed by a large cat 14:52 Oh sorry go go porkman! 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] sawbones (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:908 14:53 he's doing air right now 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) had a light blue spellbook given to him by Camaxtli, on T:11330 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] sawbones (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:983 14:57 * NCommander exhales 14:58 LarienTelrunya, in SLEX? 14:58 !who 14:58 NCommander: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] post163 [evil] k2 [evil] BLARGO [nh370] sawbones [nh370] Leggman [nh370] sickopsycho [nh370] hyperion67 [spl] Bartlem [xnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] APic [nh370] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:58 NCommander: yes, but on the esm server 14:58 what was the channel for that? 14:58 #fleecyshoes 14:58 #em.slashem.me.slashem.me 14:58 LOL K2 14:58 argh kiwiirc why? 14:58 #em.slashem.me. 14:59 :P 14:59 arrgh! #em.slashem.me 14:59 why does it keep adding some stuff 14:59 this time I got it right though! 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:44604 15:09 -!- mobileuser55 has joined #hardfought 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 148 points, T:487, killed by a black pudding 15:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7390 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3330 points, T:2734, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted soldier ant 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:21675 15:29 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 15:30 !tell K2 If you are interested, my EvilHack run has a bag of holding acquired from an NPC healer with a ghost item in it (bag conveniently named GHOST ITEM) 15:30 I'm on it, krm26. 15:31 what version krm26? 0.4.2? 15:31 K2: Message from krm26 at 2020-04-08 15:30 EDT: If you are interested, my EvilHack run has a bag of holding acquired from an NPC healer with a ghost item in it (bag conveniently named GHOST ITEM) 15:31 Yes, this is my old 4.2 game 15:31 Which owes me a Dragonbane! 15:32 that may have been fixed for 0.5.0 15:32 oooOOOooo ghost item ooOOOooo 15:33 Ok, cool. I'll consider it polyfodder then 15:33 porkman is doing the grand tour in slex :D 15:34 a soldier had the chest containing Castle WoW in the middle of the hallway going to the room with the Elbereth square 15:34 this is vanilla 3.7 15:34 not complaining. In EH they unlock the chest and wish up an archon. Just never seen that happen before 15:34 That is weird, I thought they fixed that. Old game? 15:35 probably 15:35 started yesterday I tink 15:35 think 15:35 we recently fixed the castle chest to always be locked, to stop monsters looting it 15:35 the chest was like in the middle of the level 15:35 I thought the fix was they wouldn't loot if a scroll of scare monster is present? 15:36 scrolls of scare monster are less powerful than they used to be 15:36 or carry the chest 15:36 so we were aware that monsters might get at the chest, and needed a separate fix to keep the wand safe 15:36 I'm not sure if it's automatically a good idea to keep the /chest/ safe, given that the wand is still safe 15:36 I've seen them carry it, too. Current game. 15:36 hmmmm 15:37 Seriously, that chest should just be too heavy to lift or affixed to the floor 15:37 I locate it before starting drawbridge action and then keep an ESP eye on the soldiers in that hallway. 15:38 they just shouldnt want to pick it up 15:38 -!- Porkman_ has joined #hardfought 15:38 as long as the wand is safe, I don't care where the chest is 15:38 you can separate bags from all containers. i think there's already a define for that 15:39 I just watch tomake sure if it moves, I stop drawbridge monster smashing. 15:39 ok so its the opposite 15:39 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:39 Is_box(otmp) 15:39 so !Is_box(otmp) --> ok to pick up 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:22274 15:42 -!- mobileuser55 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:42 porkman did it 15:43 <{Demo}> slex streaker 15:43 oink! 15:43 -!- Porkman_ is now known as porkman 15:43 GRATS, Porkman 15:43 porkman, too 15:43 now 15:43 time to create porkhack 15:43 or rather 15:43 pork'em! 15:43 <{Demo}> i am the third most involved person in that game 15:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:45 GG Porks 15:47 Demo, slex or pork'em? 15:47 Thanks <3 15:47 ais523: I think the concern is that if the box can be moved around then it could get polymorphed or crushed in the drawbridge or something 15:48 right, I can see a potential concern with the drawbridge 15:48 That's why I check on it periodically to ensure it doesn't go into the water. 15:48 <{Demo}> porkem 15:48 although, it's unclear whether adding extra risks to the dwarven-atom-smasher strategy is necessarily a bad ting 15:48 <{Demo}> cause porkem would be funnier for me to watch happen 15:48 *thing 15:49 it's not like it's either a) unavoidable or b) the only solution to the level 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) wished for "unlabeled corrodeproof historic blessed thoroughly historic locked very very historic +5 dragonhide t-shirt of decay named wait till vlad sees this", on T:45104 15:50 what does "of decay" do? I don't think that parses in vanilla 15:50 unless it's the name of a monster 15:50 drain res 15:50 Well, Demo, i shall set up a github soon 15:50 It reads: "I bounced off a rubber tree". 15:50 <@Tone> I don't think you risk smashing the chest unless you are being lazy / don't care. It just creates a tedious requirement to use telepathy or similar to keep track of where the chest might be. 15:50 man they never get the unlabeled part right 15:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 380 points, T:1238, killed by a giant spider 15:51 <@Tone> That's how it would affect my gameplay at least 15:51 when i was first making obj properties for evilhack, i didnt want drain weapons to be called 'thirsty' so I came up with 'decay' instead 15:51 i never allowed draining as an offensive obj property, but the phrase is still in the code 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) wished for "holy thoroughly greased very partly eaten historic dragonhide +5 cloak of protection named nya nya missed me prop. third grade society of bully victims", on T:45117 15:52 lol 15:57 "very partly eaten" is a new one for me 15:57 (I'm assuming that one /does/ work in vanilla) 15:58 May I just say that it is bs that the Ring of P'hul is made of gold 15:59 you're the envy of every leprechaun 15:59 krm26 its not always gold 15:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:59 free action is its base ring, so whatever material it started with, thats what the ring of p'hul will be 16:00 Ah, makes sense, so just yet another screw from my bad random seed 16:00 the RNG is all about tough love 16:00 A new alert regex for me 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Crom, on T:40325 16:06 Omigod, did Crom actually give me something that isn't an axe? 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire ant, on T:13192 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) stole 6351 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kinnegad's second-hand bookstore, on T:23935 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:7517 16:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:11 <@microlance> im getting adom flashbacks from all the random rivers in evilhacks mines 16:13 I particularly like when the first mines level is a stair surrounded by nothing but rock and water 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8241 16:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 2783 points, T:3712, killed by a wolf 16:17 <@Sig> Operation Don't Die in Minetown was a failure 16:17 <@riker> wolfs are an unlucky spawn there 16:17 <@riker> create monster? 16:17 <@Sig> Not mine. I ran into a dwarf queen that was casting spells so maybe she did it? 16:18 <@riker> hm, they don't do it 16:22 -!- nabru_mobile has joined #hardfought 16:22 <@Sig> Weird. I'm mad, I've gotten coaligned altars down there twice in a row and then died trying to sacrifice for them both times. 16:22 <@riker> :( 16:22 <@Sig> Whatever, back to evil, which will have the decency to kill me long before I get to Minetown, lol 16:22 <@riker> lol 16:22 orc riders show up in minetown and they ride wolves 16:22 <@riker> any favorite dnh roles, btw? 16:23 <@riker> oh really hothraxxa, I thought orc riders just walked everywhere? 16:23 oh not evilhack. nm 16:23 orc rider originally rode orcs 16:23 piggyback 16:23 then they learned how to tame wolves 16:24 but that's why they're called orc riders not wolf riders 16:24 <@riker> ah makes sense 16:33 <@Sig> Riker, you asking me? I like Noble conceptually but I never get far enough in the game to really have fun with it. 16:33 <@Sig> Pirate is fun too, real strong early gae 16:33 <@riker> have you tried ana/binder? 16:33 https://em.slashem.me/userdata/porkman/slex/dumplog/1584394928.txt 16:34 Wolves can occur in Minetown, yeah 16:34 at least in vanilla 16:34 Earlier compared to normal in my experience 16:34 <@Sig> I feel like I'd have to play 20 games with binder before I really have fun with it but it was certainly interesting. Haven't tried ana yet. 16:35 binders can become extreme powerhouses 16:35 INC BIN CHA = powerhouse 16:35 <@riker> mostly nerfed porkman 16:35 <@riker> anything that works for inc bin works for the rest as well also 16:35 what have they nerfed? 16:36 well, the rest won't have 10k mana by the endgame 16:36 -!- Andrio has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36 <@riker> all of the broken strats 16:36 -!- nabru_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:36 <@riker> incs got buffed in 3.19 though 16:36 <@riker> which is incredibly dumb 16:36 <@riker> miska is nerfed 16:36 <@Sig> I'm actively scared of inc, that one's still too weird for me. 16:37 <@riker> lmao that's a healthy attitude 16:37 <@Sig> I'll ascend dnh and then I'll mess with them. 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 195 points, T:306, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:40 I think Sea Dragons are the single scariest monster in EvilHack 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 328610 points, T:26686, petrified by a cockatrice 16:40 whoops 16:40 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:45820 16:41 nice bones for someone 16:41 reba pls... 16:41 !lastgame rebatela 16:41 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/nethack/dumplog/1586103777.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/dnethack/dumplog/1567799550.dnh.txt 16:41 had gloves off casting poly 16:41 Oooooooooo 16:41 That'll do it 16:41 And then reflex took over, forgot gloves were off.. 16:42 I'd kill for that magical breathing right now 16:42 how about the 0:3 wand of wishing or 3 markers? 16:43 Wishing and markers would violate my barbarian roleplay! 16:44 haha how did incs get buffed? 16:44 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Orc Fem Cha), 263 points, T:1252, cut down by a dwarf 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 494 points, T:1437, killed by a werejackal 16:44 i died to a sea dragon in evilhack krm26... I was even more kitted out than this guy I just turned into a statue 16:45 I wish Sea Dragons gave you better data on how many turns you had until drowning death 16:45 I have magical breathing covered now. Worth a wish. 16:46 Better yet, I wish a wand of fire could poly them into Steam Dragons :-) 16:48 Or I could use my blessed towel as a reverse osmosis filter to desalinize the dragon to death 16:48 <@riker> porkman: chris decided that naturally regening hp? stupid 16:48 <@riker> so now your per30 hp regen is per90 16:48 i had weaponless going still too 16:48 <@riker> so everybody regens at an awful rate, which buffs incs & clocks 16:49 That was weaponless? Ugh, I feel your pain at that death 16:49 and 7 wishes i didn't even need. ahh well 16:49 well that's not a buff, it's a nerf for everyone else 16:49 That's honestly why I don't like gauntlets of power (not first time I've died this way lol) 16:50 <@riker> yeah but it's an indirect buff 16:50 <@riker> which is not really great 16:50 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 16:50 Now i can go back to evilhack. Nothing can possibly break my spirit after that 16:52 I think I'm still slightly more efficient at killing myself than the game is, even in EvilHack 16:52 (talking so much to delay being drowned by this stupid sea dragon) 16:53 wand of digging? 16:54 Wand of digging can't possibly work on them if they are made of water. Can it? That can't be right 16:54 You are breaking my suspension of disbelief 16:54 wand of digging works on things like air elementals doesn't it? 16:54 or tele yourself out 16:54 brb 16:54 actually no it doesn't 16:55 that sounds like a brb of 'gonna be digging through the source code to check if I should nerf wands of digging' 16:55 Yeah, I'm clutching my hopefull-charged wand of teleportation 16:55 EvilHack seems to delight in runs where I find 2 scrolls of identify in 40000 turns 16:58 nah thats just the rng 16:58 brb was 'my kid was setting her wooly bear catepillars free' 16:59 <{Demo}> better than setting them on fire 17:00 yeah i dont think my kid would like that 17:00 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:00 <{Demo}> good 17:01 Slow monster works on air elementals 17:01 <{Demo}> 2/3 their normal speed 17:01 <{Demo}> so 24 instead of 36 17:02 I still want to apply my towel to these monsters created from water and absorb them to death 17:02 I mean it also disrupts them if they engulf you 17:02 krm26: gonna need a lot of towels 17:03 I've never tried, can you petrify water elementals with *trices? That seems wrong 17:04 Unless you can drop a *trice corpse into water and turn it to ground 17:05 So K2, what is the round count until death when engulfed by a Sea Dragon? 17:05 krm26: in vanilla at least water elementals aren't stonable 17:06 I wonder if evilhack sea dragons are the same? K2^ 17:06 I think same as all digesting monsters? 17:06 It's like 4 messages at least in vanilla 17:06 The first message you get is You're gasping for air, which I think is the 3-turn message for the amulet 17:07 Hmm, no, it looks like that isn't always the first message 17:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:10 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10 -!- krm26 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 1398 points, T:2506, cut down by an Uruk-hai 17:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:21 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 17:21 ah he left 17:21 its be the same as what it would be for a water elemental 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered Keepers, his faithful black dragon, on T:45638 17:25 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 444 points, T:1040, mowed down by a large mimic 17:26 -!- dingotron has joined #hardfought 17:26 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:28 so does it make anyone else a little crazy that the alchemy smock doesn't do anything useful at all at alchemy? 17:29 I mean once I found out jumping boots don't let you Mario stomp enemies I kinda stopped caring long after :B 17:29 Joke aside what could it realistically do besides maybe lower explosion damage 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:608 17:32 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 17:33 <@Sig> This giant doesn't appear to be racist against me, which makes this $567 ironshod staff weirder. 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 59 points, T:471, killed by an anti-magic implosion 17:38 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 342 points, T:1090, killed by a fox, while unconscious from rotten food 17:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:40 Umbire: antigulp has added or is adding mario stomping 17:40 Nice 17:40 Now he just needs to add BLJ tech 17:40 she* sorry 17:41 aperture science 17:41 <@luxidream> jumping backwards onto an upstair has a small chance of embedding you in solid rock somewhere in the leevel 17:41 Or taking you to Astral 17:42 define backwards 17:42 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 17:42 kill priest, grab amulet, BLJ into Planes 17:42 <@luxidream> I think dnethack implements directions you/enemies face 17:42 from Gehennom 17:42 <@luxidream> #yahoo 17:45 portal guns when 17:46 wait, we have magic portals already. this is an actual possibility 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1089 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1692 17:52 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 17:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:1969 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:2392 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:38014 18:08 -!- dingotron has joined #hardfought 18:09 lower damage or chance of going boom would make sense for an alchemy smock. or 10% bonus like lenses for successful outcome 18:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1231 18:11 [hdf-us] [fh] CROM (Remohw) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30397 points, T:2050, zombified by an elf zombie 18:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Sig (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 2712 points, T:2966, killed by a bolt of fire 18:15 <@Sig> I jinxed myself. Got stunned by a gnomish wizard, attacked a watchman by accident, apparently he had a wand of fire. 18:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2375 points, T:3976, killed by a soldier ant 18:21 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 18:26 -!- dingotron has joined #hardfought 18:28 @rld ouch. tricky situation. was getting chain-stunned by a pair of those in minetown recent game. came very close to not surviving that. 18:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:2549 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11176 18:30 -!- dingotron has quit [Client Quit] 18:30 Chainstunning is FeelsBad but I think I've developed the reflex to just not move if a watchman is nearby in that scenario 18:32 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 18:35 Andrio: Thanks for the wiki help btw, nice to share the workload 18:41 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Nbn Neu), 12 points, T:317, slipped while mounting a saddled baby blue dragon 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 276 points, T:429, killed by a kobold zombie 18:44 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:306, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:55 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Ang Nbn Law), 145 points, T:341, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:57 a god is remohw 18:58 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 9 points, T:318, slipped while mounting a saddled baby silver dragon 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 179 points, T:313, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:5775 19:09 A god is what now 19:09 @luxidream: Also a ty to you as well 19:17 <@luxidream> thanks 19:17 <@luxidream> I'm going through your contribs 19:18 <@luxidream> did you write the strategy page for ixoth 19:19 <@luxidream> Umbire: ^ 19:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:22 <@Remoh> I hate Halu :p 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] snorri (Con Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:24, killed by a fox 19:24 <@Sig> Oh wow, dnh changes the Valk start a lot 19:28 <@Suzune Takada> because valkyrie in vanilla is the most easiest role (long sword, +3 small shield) 19:28 -!- nabru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15944 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Val Hum Fem Law), 663 points, T:142, killed by a black pudding 19:31 <@Remoh> hhahahaha 19:34 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 51 points, T:447, killed by a sewer rat 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 110 points, T:563, killed by a sewer rat 19:38 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:40 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Mon Hlf Mal Neu), 49963 points, T:9961, killed by a xorn 19:40 <@Suzune Takada> I think the most characteristic thing in dnh is binder 19:40 <@Suzune Takada> because of their 'binding spirits' 19:46 <@luxidream> Umby: I really disagree with much of the quest nemesis strategy you're writing 19:47 <@luxidream> for example, corrodeproofing your armor before doing the knight quest, or the advice to watch out for exploding enemies on the valkyrie quest 19:47 <@luxidream> to avoid waking up surtur 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:38894 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 555 points, T:1068, killed by a mithril arrow, while unconscious from rotten food 19:56 ded 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 48 points, T:352, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 20:00 worst part of being punished is not being able to swap places with my pet 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 45 points, T:359, killed by a fox 20:02 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:04 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had a dusty cloak entrusted to her by Crom, on T:44507 20:06 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 727 points, T:990, killed by a goblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) had a platinum spellbook given to him by Camaxtli, on T:12082 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Pri Hob Mal Neu), 162 points, T:1092, killed by trying to drink molten lava 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:46663 20:19 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Arc Ang Nbn Law), 484 points, T:851, killed by an arrow 20:19 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:34 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:45432 20:38 -!- Tangles has quit [Quit: reboting... this could take a while] 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:89, killed by a fox 20:39 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:14267 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:351 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:32128 20:50 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 20:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class c, on T:32308 21:10 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:12 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4956 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4956 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:5198 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 167 points, T:892, killed by a hobbit 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 69 points, T:293, killed by a boulder 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3769 21:40 !who 21:40 dk657: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] davidkent [evil] snorri [evil] BLARGO [nh370] Grandolar [nh370] Vigorix [nh370] Sig [dnh] Twelve [fh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 21:43 thought the dwarf had some baller armor but actually i just forgot to wield my weapon 21:44 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 680 points, T:1285, killed by a piranha 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:6062 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 4 points, T:57, killed by a jackal 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5678 points, T:6815, killed by a bolt of lightning 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:804 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3739 points, T:4976, killed by an Uruk-hai, while sleeping 22:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:46457 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3824 22:25 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 3592 points, T:3919, killed by a dwarf 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:4313 22:27 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 22:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 22:35 no problem :o 22:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:46485 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6028 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:6145 22:46 [hdf-us] [sp] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 33906 points, T:4949, killed by a troll 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:6376 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3251 points, T:6528, killed by a black unicorn 23:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:831 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:46642 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:46642 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:46644 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 356 points, T:1671, killed by a giant bat 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:83, killed by a sewer rat 23:29 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 23:31 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:15567