00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 2450 points, T:1419, killed by a bolt of fire 00:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:39590 00:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:40871 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51251 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51253 00:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:44884 00:50 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:54 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:822 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2336 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 735 points, T:2438, killed by a gnome king, while sleeping 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:53129 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 4005 points, T:2401, killed by a bugbear 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:413 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:702 01:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:32 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 667 points, T:1145, killed by a little dog called Curtis 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:451 01:39 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1809 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2561 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2978 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3204 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:913 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3227 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1083 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:3228 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1593 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1752 02:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3350 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4797 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:5456 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5525 02:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9773 02:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law), 34350 points, T:11806, killed by a winged gargoyle 02:38 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:910 02:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1456 02:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2027 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:2109 02:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3344 03:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:5290 03:01 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 03:02 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:02 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06 -!- j has joined #hardfought 03:07 -!- j is now known as Guest60222 03:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:18 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:33 <@microlance> master mind flayer in mines end 😦 03:34 the legendary mineflayer 03:34 !who 03:34 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] mobileuser [evil] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 03:35 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 9560 points, T:6002, quit 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:683 03:59 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1371 04:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 965 points, T:1494, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 04:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:835 04:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2444 04:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:2529 04:07 * NCommander needs some stress relief 04:07 !role 04:07 NCommander: sporkhack valkyrie 04:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4704 04:09 hi NCommander *büschelbüschelbüschel!* :) 04:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5084 04:10 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 04:11 Taht's probably German for bundle 04:11 it is :D 04:11 * NCommander wonders what changed in NH37 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4871 points, T:5660, killed by a giant spider 04:12 Luxidream is doing lots of things 04:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:481 04:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:606 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1872 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:1913 04:18 I'm having a lot of lag to hardfought 04:20 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "nx", on T:5641 04:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6161 04:23 !asc Luxidream 04:23 NCommander: [hdf-us] Luxidream has ascended 273 times in 3610 games (7.56%): fh:18 (14.52%), nh363:70 (4.44%), nh370:14 (8.28%), nh4:69 (18.55%), dyn:80 (30.08%), un:4 (2.94%), spl:5 (4.13%), nh343:2 (3.85%), xnh:7 (11.48%), 4k:2 (0.35%), sp:2 (11.76%) | [hdf-eu] Luxidream has not ascended in 244 games. | [hdf-au] Luxidream has not ascended in 1 games. 04:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:10989 04:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:11386 04:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:12000 04:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 13969 points, T:12180, killed by a dwarf king 04:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:35 -!- murphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:36 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 04:37 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:45 [hdf-us] [sp] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1531 points, T:1860, killed by a hill orc 04:45 Yeah I'm rusty 04:45 !role 04:45 NCommander: dynahack healer 04:47 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 04:47 * NCommander decides to just roll random on vanilla 05:05 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] NCommander (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2419 05:14 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:14 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 05:14 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] NCommander (Ran Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3254 05:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] NCommander (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3270 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] NCommander (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3308 05:19 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:19 Mine bones is always "eh" for me 05:20 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:20 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 05:20 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:20 quite a few roles start with some neat things though 05:22 Its a double bones actually 05:23 ... triple bones 05:23 one of my slex players encountered a sextuple bones level a while ago ;) 05:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:25 I must have mentioned, in the old days on chiark, us having an elf in Minetown with a wand of death which we collectively defeated by the WW1 strategy of attacking with more men than the enemy has bullets. 05:25 One of us eventually got the wand. Empty. 05:25 Pinkbeast: that sounds like a waste of men :D 05:27 Well, yes, that was one of the characteristics of the period. Along with a horrible pandemic... 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] NCommander (Ran Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:4417 05:46 Ok, having a near death experience convinced me to put it up 05:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] NCommander (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 2368 points, T:4868, killed by a bolt of cold 05:56 Poop 06:01 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07 sheesh Lugh, since when is being a werejackal and overtaxed not a major problem? 06:11 -!- Guest60222 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:19 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:37 NCommander: did you die in the multibones level? 06:37 amateurhour, I did 06:37 there's a fairly nasty quadruple bones minetown 06:37 everyone died of a bolt of cold 06:37 or is it sextuple bones now lol 06:38 K2, aosdict I think I only got the same bug as I accidentally tested with the 3.6 wip version of unnethack :-) it seems the problem is the call to fixup_special() in a non-MAP des file (the one with the comment that otherwise sokoban stairs wouldn't be premapped ). fixup_special() gets called for every room, instead after all rooms have been created. and with the first call, there is only one room ... so it places the special 06:38 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the ghost of zor, the former Lookout, on T:4913 06:38 stairs/portal there. 06:45 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:22626 06:49 !PoM 06:49 APic: The moon is full for 3 more days. 06:49 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:11 Ugh. died to a fatfinger 07:12 shit run anyway. 13k turns in DL25 or so... still hadn't found a scroll of identifty. 07:13 Oof 07:16 As an evilhack Convict (sickness resistance) I ate a zombie corpse by accident. Was afraid I would turn into a zombie, but so far I am still fine. 07:20 Shh 07:20 Don't tell you-know-who 07:20 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Mon Mer Nbn Neu), 1285 points, T:2454, dismembered by a dwarf king 07:21 Legion? 07:21 the one who will nerf evilhack convicts if he finds out they can safely eat zombies :P 07:22 <@Suzune Takada> immune to sickness... like necromancer(in slem) or convict(in many variants)? 07:23 Hehe. I asked earlier and he seemed to think it was still unsafe for convicts to eat zombies. 07:23 Yeah, he can just keep thinking that :) 07:23 Exactly. Heresy, but so far I actually like Convict in evilhack. 07:24 Yeah it's not bad. Evilhack is a variant that likes to kick you while you're down, and convicts tend to be that way too, but... 07:24 -!- nabru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:25 <@Suzune Takada> private question: why penguin became new domestic animal (like cat/dog) in spl 07:25 Convicts' sickness resistance gives them a slightly bigger edge in EH than other variants (because of the relentless sicness-inducing zombies that start at T:5) 07:26 And compared to tourists at least they start out with good STR and CON 07:27 iron ball does good damage if you manage to hit 07:27 just have to remember to be careful descending the stairs :-) 07:27 <@Suzune Takada> what variant is the most difficult difficulty for convict 07:27 Yeah the early game is a very steep curve. Hunger is a big deal. I can't even begin to imagine what it's like as a hobbit. 07:28 <@Suzune Takada> unh? (more hit to unskilled -> basic) 07:28 But yeah, go downstairs and risk death, or stay and starve. Just gotta get a bit of luck to get going. 07:29 But then, in evilhack everyone needs a bit of luck in the beginning ;-) 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:24188 07:32 -!- nabru_ has joined #hardfought 07:33 -!- nabru_ is now known as nabru 07:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Spellbook of Identify", on T:19299 07:38 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:38 <@Suzune Takada> example of difficult races in some variants: lycanthrope in slem(and werewolf in spl) 07:38 <@Suzune Takada> they are so hard play until get the polymorph control 07:39 <@Suzune Takada> they have incurable lycantrophy 08:00 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Mon Hum Nbn Neu) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3783 08:03 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 08:03 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (niven.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 08:03 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 08:04 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Mon Hum Nbn Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4182 08:07 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the ghost of SuzuneTakada, the former Cutpurse, on T:5585 08:08 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 08:09 * K2 senses someone ate a zombie corpse and they were fine 08:09 there is a disturbance in the force 08:10 zombie 08:11 "fixed bug where player evaded my carefully constructed YASD" 08:11 I've eaten elf zombie corpses 08:11 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the ghost of microlance, the former Wanderer, on T:5748 08:11 bhaak I wasnt aware of fixup_special() 08:12 and thank you for confirming 3.6 version of unnethack :P 08:12 Andrio in evilhack its not safe to eat zombie corpses 08:12 unless you're a convict it seems... 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:24687 08:13 In other variants, if you have sickness resistance or a way to cure it, eating elf zombies for a chance at sleep resistance is worth the risk. 08:13 Ah hi K2! :-) 08:13 busted.... 08:13 heh 08:13 i shold prob let that stand 08:13 should 08:13 K2: Convicts have sickenss resistance. That's just how it is :P 08:13 sick res ya know 08:13 Tangles HI 08:13 :P 08:14 in evilhack though there is NO chance of getting nutrition or resistances from zombie corpses. 08:14 you can tin them though and be ok 08:15 at least eating them as convict gets them out of the way, very nice 08:16 so even as a convict there's not much advantage to be gained by eating them, since nutrition is #1 concern in the early game. 08:16 there was a guy doing work experience at work recently, with the QA team 08:16 but yes, it does get rid of the corpse, again mobileuser... shhh! :P 08:16 he asked me, naively, why developers add bugs 08:16 * K2 senses another disturbance in the force 08:16 it was the most adorable thing I have ever heard 08:17 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Mon Hum Nbn Neu), 7678 points, T:5788, struck down by a blue jelly 08:17 amateurhour tell your co-worker its my fault 08:17 i am the source of all bugs 08:17 that's how I started introducing myself to new QA team members 08:17 I'm on the bug-creation team 08:17 lol 08:17 some people really work that way 08:18 they spend one day bugging and the rest of the week debugging 08:18 there's quite a few of my coworkers that just dgaf with their code, it's probably a universal experience 08:19 Tangles: I like how in 3.6.1+ you can sometimes find an elf corpse on one of the upper floors early enough to still eat it safely. 08:19 at least I can use the excuse that I have zero formal coding education or training. I imagine that your co-workers dont have that excuse amateurhour :P 08:20 lol jilles 08:21 is monday 'have you made a new bug yet today?' day? 08:21 amateurhour: The angel of cynicism says "because developers are paid to fix bugs" :-) 08:21 ... 08:21 you're your own job security 08:21 you create bugs... so you can fix bugs... 08:22 and get paid to fix bugs \o/ 08:22 sloppy hacks are just future headaches 08:22 sloppy hacks eventually come back to bite 08:22 and future me might hate past me 08:22 s/headaches/paycheques/; 08:22 haha 08:22 K2 evilhack changelog says for 0.2.0: - Blessed stethoscopes can reveal egg contents. But it doesn't seem to work? 08:22 "Everyone knows that debugging is twice as hard as writing a program in the first place. So if you're as clever as you can be when you write it, how will you ever debug it?" 08:23 (Yes, I appreciate if you're anything like me, your rate of unintentional bugs is such that there's no need to pad with intentional ones...) 08:23 Then you should slow down and write more unit tests. ;-) 08:23 what are unit tests? :^) 08:24 mobileuser: put the egg on the ground 08:24 apply stethoscope at egg 08:24 egg contents: yolk 08:25 I did. The egg doesn't really make any noise at all. 08:25 You listen to the egg and guess... giant spider! 08:25 mobileuser: that means its a normal egg 08:25 aaah.... 08:25 nothing will hatch from it 08:25 "normal" 08:25 ok thx :-) 08:25 :) 08:25 ... nothing? 08:26 .... now I'm wondering, are fowl the only things that lay unfertilized eggs? 08:26 huh 08:26 i'm not sure 08:26 All those amphibians that go in for external fertilisation. 08:26 He just spaffs in the water, so she lays them unfertilised. 08:27 spaffs 08:27 "nerfed laying eggs as a dragon, you now have to #sit on them to fertilise them before they will hatch" 08:27 thats a new one 08:27 as a male dragon* 08:27 You all know "wanker" after Austin Powers, we've got to teach you some new ones. :-) 08:27 Male dragons can lay eggs? 08:27 yeah baby, yeah! 08:28 no, you have to use changing to switch, in this hypothetical evil patch 08:28 I have two amulets of change in my current game 08:29 amulets of change are nice for tourist on the quest 08:29 K2: I think reverting f314fe87bd just fixes it. the sokoban stairs are properly premapped apparently now and / works. 08:30 oh wow 08:30 K2: I can commit tha 08:30 t 08:31 go for it 08:31 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:35 this is me right now about to see a year old bug get fixed - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2530/source 08:35 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 08:36 I knew about the sokoban stairs issue but as it mostly affected wizmode, I never investigated. 08:37 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:39 I also kind of like the stairs and portal being able to be in the same room. enabling that with a low chance deliberately would be swell 08:42 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:43 yeah that bit wasnt ever an issue really 08:43 it was portals spawning in shops 08:45 bhaak does that revert cover that also? 08:46 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:46 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 08:46 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:47 so far it looks good in that regard... 08:48 the test run I am doing, i would have seen a portal in a shop by now, havent gotten any yet 08:49 K2: what "cover"? 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:947 08:49 the revert you pushed to evilhack, does that handle magic portals in non-normal rooms also? 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 315 points, T:1060, killed by a water demon 08:51 it seems to 08:52 yes, it should. the code for finding a suitable location is the same for branch stairs and portals. 08:52 \o/ 08:52 thanks bhaak 08:53 hope this helps out the next version of unnethack too 08:55 EvilHack updated (all servers) 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:760 08:59 good work team 09:14 <@Pacra> hey K2 09:14 <@Pacra> have you noticed that if you kill a nazgul 09:14 hi 09:14 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 09:14 <@Pacra> while the nazgul is on a pile of items 09:15 <@Pacra> the steed becomes 'hidden' under the pile of items, much like a snake monster 09:15 <@Pacra> but can still attack and scream 09:15 you're still on 0.4.2 correct? 09:15 <@Pacra> yerp 09:15 save/reload will address that 09:15 and that's been fixed in 0.5.0 09:15 <@Pacra> gotcha 09:15 <@Pacra> <3 09:19 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 909 points, T:3151, sent to the grave by a giant bat 09:23 -!- nabru_to_go has joined #hardfought 09:24 -!- nabru_to_go has quit [Client Quit] 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39668 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39673 09:34 K2: [backscroll] What I'm interested in is whether the fix also handles _subrooms_? 09:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:34 Because you have random rooms that have a special subroom in them and the rest is nonspecial. 09:46 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1654 points, T:2151, sent to the next life by a dwarf, while frozen by a potion 09:52 aosdict: so say you have a subroom within a room, and the subroom is a shop. if stairs/portal spawns in the non-shop part of that setup, i'm ok with that 09:53 yes me too, just wondering if there's anything that could go wrong there 09:53 i'm sure the random vault code could use some more work 09:53 but this fix from today is huge 09:53 YUGE 09:53 like, it spawns in the dividing walls, or just considers the whole original large room and goes into the subroom anyway 09:54 are you partying like it's 2016 09:54 heh 09:54 that wasn't the best year all around either 09:54 <{Demo}> at least 2016 wasn't 2020 09:54 you could argue the last 3.5 years have been less than ideal 10:00 zombie 10:08 -!- Blisls56 has joined #hardfought 10:09 how did applying the patches go {Demo} ? 10:16 <{Demo}> yeah nah vanilla built but the nhtng patch didn't apply properly. wasn't happy with applying certain crucial parts of it, saying it refused to overwrite the file, i didn't push any further cause i got back to working on something else 10:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:25 zombie 10:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:645 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1066 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 350 points, T:1097, killed by a gas spore's explosion 10:47 I'm done with work in like 15 mins, maybe will give it a go 10:48 I'm so exhausted today for some reason, probably least productive day I've ever had :| 10:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:63524 10:54 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Val Dwa Nbn Law), 72 points, T:250, dismembered by a water demon 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63768 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63782 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:63937 11:04 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:64200 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:64206 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 125 points, T:604, killed by a water elemental 11:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:19 new smoker is seasoning. wewt! 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:376 11:22 hmm, what's the PW library that TNG wants to link to? 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:65813 11:25 <{Demo}> what r u gonna smoke? 11:27 smoking is bad, don't smoke kids 11:28 OK, I won't smoke kids 11:29 ribs 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:65967 11:34 ribs from children? you monster 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:66221 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:66232 11:37 don't judge too soon. presumably ribs from kids that were already dead 11:37 hah 11:37 how do you think they got dead, bhaak 11:38 corona? 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:66292 11:41 <{Demo}> u should get some pig butts and make some good ass pulled pork bbq 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:66342 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 2933916 points, T:66373, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Urc/nethack/dumplog/1585164373.nh.html 11:49 managed to build it TNG demo 11:50 the main problem was linked in libraries that don't matter, and caddr_t being used instead of void* 11:51 GG Urc 11:52 and one case of a missing argument somehow to make_confused 11:52 I don't particularly have a grasp on how to configure nethack though to check a game 11:56 oh nvm it works 11:56 :) 12:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1921 12:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh4] Derp (TIG) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 57264 points, T:12323, killed by a soldier 12:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:16 we like to make fun of the current nethack code but old C code in general is screamingly bad 12:19 everything's an int in C 12:20 booleans, enums, methods with no specified return type get an int as return type by default 12:20 <{Demo}> yeah that's goofy, ud think it would at least be something that was a standard size across systems 12:21 Since C99 C at least has _Bool and typedefs that to bool in stdbool.h 12:22 but thwy are still ints 12:22 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 12:22 And when You omit the „int“ from a Function-Return-Type You get a Warning by default 12:22 the only thing that's bool gives you is that it's defined to be only 1 or 0. 12:23 Yes, so it is not an int, because int does not convert everything to just 0 or 1 ;=P 12:24 yeah, that's the kind of brain dead C design mind that also thinks that undefined behavior is a good idea :-} 12:26 It is good that the Standard clearly states what leads to undefined Behaviour so You can try to avoid it whereever possible 12:27 But i will discuss no further here, i will rather continue to play NetHack ☺ 12:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:30 just blame the programmer for not reading the gazillion pages of documentation ;-P 12:30 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law), 13106 points, T:6572, killed by an invisible stalker 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Hum Fem Law), 5229 points, T:5363, killed by a quasit 12:41 academics' C code is an extra layer of bad 12:42 a lot of write-once run-once code that gets repurposed for something vaguely similar 12:44 unless it's for a research project 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1083 12:45 although in that case that might just be the recipient of the repurposed code... 12:45 yes 12:45 I was doing a phd in computational physics (that I ultimately quit) 12:45 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 12:45 lots of frankencode being passed around 12:46 oh that sounds great thouhg 12:46 what was your topic in the phd work? 12:46 I was doing two projects, one simulating cosmic strings, and one simulating sphalerons, both in the early universe 12:47 <{Demo}> oh jesus 12:47 <{Demo}> did u detect any aliens? 12:47 <{Demo}> in simulated prehistoric cosmic space? 12:47 it's hard enough finding a god damn infinitely long string how u think imma find some aliens 12:47 academics' C code> ITYM FORTRAN aha 12:47 damn that sounds awesome (even though i dont understand shit) 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:1217 12:48 I took a few C classes and knew some people that did horrors to the C language 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 615 points, T:1820, killed by a kobold lord 12:48 such as never bothering to learn pointers and using global variables everywhere 12:48 When I got hired at Chemistry it was an asset that I knew no FORTRAN because then all my time couldn't be spent fixing up academics' hacky FORTRAN 12:49 often the more senior academics just get the ~~plebs~~ phd students to write the code, with no training 12:50 I think it'd be better overall if we could just pair up software engineers with scientists 12:51 amateurhour: you obviously didn't look for dyson sphere or artificial black holes. they are much easier to detect 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:619 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law), 236 points, T:631, killed by a small mimic 12:53 if I were a slex developer, I would add those as new floating sphere monsters 12:54 thank you for your contribution to the slex monster list ♥ 12:54 amateurhour: I read this as "floating point monsters" 12:54 haha 12:54 "The floating point hits! You lose 0.300000004 HP." 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1721 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 741 points, T:1779, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 13:07 Not the sleeping gas traps... 13:10 [hdf-us] [slshm] rad (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 2210 points, T:2903, killed by a white unicorn 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:828 13:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:32 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:40 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:42 -!- jilles has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:513 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:691 13:47 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5145 13:47 apre ribs and pork belly is in the smoker. in 6 hours, juicy smoky pork goodness 13:47 *spare 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 327 points, T:1268, killed by a newt 13:49 As you lift the smoky spare rib, a djinni emerges! 13:49 <{Demo}> yum 13:50 'put me back in, fool!' 13:51 I was thinking more "The djinni speaks. 'You were about to eat me, fool!' The djinni hits!" 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1034 13:55 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3168 points, T:5491, murdered by a werebear 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:44718 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44720 13:56 !tell AntiGulp since you can cook food in splicehack, you should add grills and smokers 13:56 No worries, K2, I've got this! 13:57 as what, objects or dungeon furniture 13:57 i would say furniture 13:58 small ones are portable but i think as furniture is more appropriate 14:00 and lets face it, you're not going to smoke mastodon ribs on a small portable smoker 14:00 *in 14:01 aren't furnaces the "cooking furniture" already though? 14:01 dunno 14:02 makes sense if they were i suppose 14:02 or cast fireball at expert level on a pile of corpses 14:02 'medium rare! not well done!!' 14:02 one thing I'd like to pick AntiGulp's brains about at some point is what the impetus is for adding all these big new systems, which is kind of a staple of Splice. 14:03 ... because she can? and its something she likes? 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a broken large box containing 21 items on an altar, on T:3623 14:04 <@riker> why did k2 make evilhack? because he can 14:05 <@riker> and he enjoys inflicting pain! 14:05 "because it's something I like" is a valid answer but not a particularly satisfying one 14:05 that now becomes a personal problem :) 14:06 if you guys are gonna ask "why did amy make slex/" then the answer should please read "because she's crazy" :P 14:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07 <{Demo}> i really want smoked meat now 14:07 omg... only 30 min in, smoker smells soooooo good 14:07 i did a combo of applewood and hickory 14:07 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:07 <@riker> k2 stop 14:07