00:00 <rebatela> debating whether to do this now or in the morning... Headache/fever. Pretty sure i have covid. Been quarantined for a couple weeks now 
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00:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Dro Nbn Cha), 2159 points, T:3309, dismembered by a soldier ant
00:02 <rebatela> go team ant
00:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4369
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00:03 <Umbire> Evilhack has its own Nethackwiki variant too?
00:03 <Umbire> k2's gone too far
00:03 <Umbire> too far I tell you
00:04 <Andrio> There are variants of the wiki now? (Apart from Fandom)
00:05 <aosdict> I don't think K2 set up his own wik
00:05 <aosdict> wiki
00:06 <rebatela> it's very short 
00:06 <rebatela> just explaining the new races etc
00:07 <rebatela> do i need to wear magical breathing on water plane (as a giant) ? That's where I died last time, but I was human 
00:08 <rebatela> i guess it wouldn't hurt. Fly on air, water breathing on water, and switch to life saving for astral 
00:08 <rebatela> fly on the other two i suppose as well 
00:13 <Umbire> is joak
00:13 <Umbire> reba means the evilhack article
00:14 <Umbire> so I made a variant joke
00:16 <Andrio> Any bets on how long it'll take before I get cursed by fountain quaffing?
00:18 <rebatela> i never quaff but i dip the living crap out of those early fountains 
00:19 <Andrio> Did a lock pick just appear from fountain snakes?
00:20 <rebatela> death drop? 
00:21 <Andrio> I don't think so.
00:21 <Andrio> I hadn't killed any there yet.
00:38 <Andrio> Heh
00:38 <Andrio> The tengu reads a scroll of create monster!
00:38 <Andrio> It summoned another tengu. And both left corpses.
00:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed notsogood's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6118
00:48 <Andrio> The ice troll picks up a chest.
00:51 <aosdict> The troll picks up an ice box.
00:53 <Tangles> dwarf zombie
00:55 <Andrio> Dwarf zombie?
00:59 <Andrio> Heh
00:59 <Andrio> Apparently you can get two 'ad aerarium's and a 'Vlad was here' on the same floor.
01:05 <Tangles> Andrio: There were some evilhack quantity of zombies... I got lucky with an unidentified wand being undead turning, and managed to kill them all but 1 when the wand ran out of charges.
01:05 <Tangles> One more charge and I would have survived.
01:06 <Tangles> that last one was just a regular dwarf with a mattock.
01:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6538
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01:20 <Andrio> Yay
01:20 <Andrio> Blue dragon scales
01:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:7259
01:23 <Tangles> ...zombie
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01:32 <Tangles> fml
01:33 <aosdict> a zombie boulder?
01:33 <Tangles> a boulder zombie, yes.
01:33 <Tangles> (not really)
01:33 <aosdict> :P
01:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8806
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02:08 <rld> <@Sig> What's notdNethack?
02:09 <K2> its an offshoot of dnethack, {Demo} is the variant author
02:10 <rld> <@Sig> Interesting. What's different about it?
02:10 <K2> thats a good question. I havent really played it so i cant say
02:11 <K2> sokoban is more exciting, that I know
02:11 <K2> explosions and stuff
02:11 <rld> <@Sig> Lol
02:11 <K2> i'm not kidding :)
02:11 <rld> <@Sig> I'll try it out then
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02:13 <rld> <@Sig> I picked random character and now I'm scared.
02:13 <rld> <Sig> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/696241093926191134/unknown.png
02:14 <K2> heh
02:14 <K2> heya Tangles
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02:50 <Andrio> Roar.
02:51 <Andrio> I like how I can still cast identify as a dragon.
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03:04 <Andrio> Medusa's lair is also full of snakes. Of course.
03:19 <Tangles> Hey @Sig! WTF happened in minetown? Hmm???
03:19 <Tangles> Oh that was an hour ago... nvm
03:19 <Tangles> Hi K2
03:21 <rld> <@Sig> I haven't gotten to Minetown yet, I just hit random character and that was what I got.
03:24 <Tangles> @Sig I was talking about the double bones you left me in dnh :P
03:25 <rld> <@Sig> Oh, lol. I can't remember honestly. I've lost most of my runs around that time in d so they all kinda blend together.
03:25 <Tangles> tbf there was a fxenakis gost there as well, so I don't really know what went down between y'all 3 before I showed up. 
03:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] Sig (Acu Hum Mal Law), 176 points, T:444, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse
03:27 <Tangles> heh
03:28 <rld> <@Sig> I forgot that rules of the game still apply to me even as a mind flayer
03:33 <rld> <@Sig> Lol
03:33 <Andrio> Now I can wear the +4 shirt safely
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05:14 <Andrio> I'm at the castle, and there's not one, but two master liches!
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05:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof dragonhide water walking boots", on T:29138
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05:23 <Andrio> I know I suck at Mastermind, but shouting 'Off with his head!' is a bit much, don't you think?
05:23 <Tangles> Andrio: How many times did you wish for the Mitre? Did you get it on the first go?
05:24 <Andrio> Second go.
05:24 <Tangles> Ah ok... so you got 2 wishes in a single turn even before wishing for your speed boots :)
05:25 <Andrio> Yeah, I found a wand of wishing.
05:25 <Tangles> Still too many livelog events. What even is that first one? 
05:25 <Tangles> 17:31 <+Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Andrio (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for his first artifact, on T:34228
05:25 <Andrio> Excuse me
05:25 <Andrio> My first artifact was Sting.
05:25 <Tangles> How is that even a thing?
05:26 <Tangles> Yeah it's crappy wording - it means made your first artifact wish.
05:26 <Andrio> Someone died with it under their wing.
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05:27 <Tangles> but... there's already a message following, that has that wording, and says what you wished for, so the first message is completely redundant.
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05:28 <Andrio> Yeah
05:29 <Tangles> Anyway, I'm heading out (just to collect dinner, not in breach of any social distancing regulations).  Will look at it later.
05:31 <Andrio> Someone brought me the chest with the wand of wishing.
05:31 <Andrio> Nice of them
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05:35 <Andrio> I found Snickersnee.
05:36 <Andrio> I found Mjollnir as well.
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05:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:1514
05:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) averted death, on T:29568
05:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:29579
05:50 <Andrio> And none of the mines exploded.
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06:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 110 points, T:570, murdered by a newt, while reading a book
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06:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 1849 points, T:3163, exterminated by a gold golem
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07:14 <mobileuser> Challenge: collect all the broadsword artifacts in evilhack :-)
07:14 <mobileuser> I now have Orcrist, Luckblade and Stormbringer
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08:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Clk Mal Law), 1155 points, T:435, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
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08:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:453
08:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:485
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08:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Ang Fem Law), 292 points, T:321, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
08:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 85 points, T:303, killed by a cadaver
08:55 <mobileuser> evilhack: stormbringer wielded in the other hand doesn't attack peaceful creatures, that's very nice and not evil.
08:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 427 points, T:1033, killed by a sewer rat
09:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:364
09:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 108 points, T:400, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:00 <amateurhour> unplayable :^)
09:02 <aosdict> mimic mower
09:02 <amateurhour> jesus, usually they're so slow but the one had their caffeine this morning
09:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:10789
09:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Grandolar's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:10919
09:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:735
09:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:828
09:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Delraven (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1245 points, T:1487, killed by a bolt of fire
09:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 711 points, T:2180, killed by a giant spider
09:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2081
09:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:961
09:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1369
09:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:66461
09:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12162
09:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1834
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09:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3238
09:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3343
09:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:66682
09:55 <dk657> sooo the amulet is under water
09:55 <dk657> adjacent to land
09:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1932 points, T:2567, killed by an orc-captain
09:56 <aosdict> the amulet of yendor?
09:56 <dk657> yep
09:56 <aosdict> you can freeze the water and it'll pop out on top
09:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12407
09:57 <aosdict> if you have cold available
09:57 <dk657> well i have cold in a stash nine levels up
09:57 <aosdict> you can also drop a boulder in it I think?
09:57 <dk657> hm
09:58 <aosdict> yeah I wiztested that, it works
09:59 <dk657> excellent, but i don't see any bolders nearby
09:59 <aosdict> scroll of earth
10:00 <dk657> i wonder if it's safe from non-water creatures?
10:00 <dk657> no scroll of earth on hand
10:00 <aosdict> no it's not safe, he can grab it right out of the water
10:00 <NCommander> I got to be honest
10:00 <NCommander> single player gaming is not doing it for me. 
10:01 <NCommander> :/
10:01 <dk657> i wonder if i can bullwhip it out
10:02 <aosdict> dk657: seems like yes, though you may have to try many times
10:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 186 points, T:948, killed by a coyote
10:04 <dk657> oh. it was not in the water.
10:04 <dk657> i was standing on top of it.
10:04 <dk657> lordy
10:05 <dk657> well i sure whipped the snot out of a square of innocent water
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10:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 122439 points, T:30276, killed by an exploding wand
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10:17 <amateurhour> what circumstances lead to the amulet having potentially been in water? :P
10:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a brown pudding, on T:5437
10:17 <aosdict> amateurhour: killing the WoY over water is pretty common
10:17 <Pinkbeast> Defeating a covetous monster over water?
10:18 <amateurhour> I meant lead in the past tense, like what happened this time
10:18 <Pinkbeast> So... "led" ?
10:19 <amateurhour> yeah, I just had a brian fart
10:19 <aosdict> gross, Brian
10:19 <aosdict> his farts are awful
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10:26 <dk657> amateurhour: i was on medusa's level when the wizard came
10:27 <dk657> and i was trying to get to land to kill him, during which time he conjured about a zillion dragons
10:28 <dk657> successfully got to the upstair and hacked him to death
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10:28 <dk657> went to pick up the amulet: it was in a hole
10:28 <dk657> i fell through the hole, the amulet did not come with me
10:28 <dk657> went back upstairs and the amulet was gone
10:29 <dk657> presumably carried away
10:30 <dk657> detect treasure said (i thought) that it was in a square of water, so i whipped the water with a bullwhip a million times before casting detect treasure again, which now didn't show the amulet
10:30 <dk657> then i realized i should check under my feet
10:30 <amateurhour> yikes, that's scary, haha
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10:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 12892 points, T:6754, killed by a mountain centaur
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10:42 <AntiGulp> Go team ant
10:43 <Andrio> Inhumed, now?
10:44 <Andrio> Not just killed but inhumed
10:44 <amateurhour> "I surely can't keep failing to kick this tree, right?"
10:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "diluted very holy greased partly eaten historic +5 thoroughly silver dragon scale mail named polishing this takes forever", on T:9680
10:45 <nabru> Not only silver, but THOROUGHLY silver.
10:45 <hothraxxa> it's +5 too
10:46 <amateurhour> nice!
10:46 <K2> morning
10:47 <amateurhour> afternoon :)
10:47 <AntiGulp> Mooorning!
10:47 <nabru> Morning, almost noon!
10:47 <hothraxxa> two magic lamps in orctown, one cursed one blessed
10:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a goblin corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:9716
10:48 <K2> heh I slept in kinda
10:48 <amateurhour> nice, a wish and an infinite light source
10:49 <{Demo}> i tried to sleep in  but it didnt work
10:50 <K2> usually it doesnt but my kid let me sleep this time
10:50 <amateurhour> bag of rats
10:51 <amateurhour> I'm too tired to play like not an idiot :(
10:54 <Tangles> large mimic ZOMBIE
10:55 <Tangles> I wish I was joking
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:67816
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:67818
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a flail entrusted to her by Kos, on T:9777
10:55 <rld> <@riker> yeah that happens
10:56 <rld> <@riker> my general rule for zombies - if it already started slow, it's now even more lethal
10:56 <{Demo}> is that fixed in devel?
10:56 <rld> <@riker> what demo?
10:56 <rld> <@riker> since it's basically just got 1/2 damage, spawns in groups, and hits 2x as hard
10:56 <{Demo}> it doesn't say what derived undead it is
10:56 <{Demo}> when you get killed by derived undead
10:56 <{Demo}> like it doesnt say it was a zombie mimic of a skeleton mimic of a mimic vitrean
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10:59 <rld> <@riker> ah
10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:15020
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11:15 <rld> <@riker> always thought that was one of the cooler death messages for a not very cool activity
11:19 <{Demo}> is aosdict in the house? wondering why xnh doesn't have lit/unlit grass differentiation?
11:19 <aosdict> what
11:19 <aosdict> do you mean that they're both bright green regardless of the lit state?
11:19 <aosdict> actually wait it's just green isn't it
11:20 <{Demo}> there is no S_litgrass, S_drkgrass, just S_grass
11:20 <aosdict> because... what color would it be
11:20 <aosdict> I have no CLR_EXTRADARKGREEN
11:20 <rld> <@riker> green / bright green?
11:21 <aosdict> no I tried bright green it's bad
11:21 <rld> <@riker> lol
11:21 <{Demo}> bright green for lit is what dnh does apparently
11:21 <{Demo}> ndnh uses xnh's and has them both green
11:21 <rld> <@riker> i don't have any issues with it
11:21 <rld> <@riker> bright green looks fine on my terminal
11:21 <aosdict> I think this is a wontfix
11:22 <aosdict> there's no such thing as lit/dark ice either
11:22 <aosdict> not worth the trouble of fiddling with the display code more
11:23 <{Demo}> damn the color difference is subtle with my colors
11:23 <{Demo}> might be why I didn't notice this until i was stealing sand from dnh
11:23 <rld> <@riker> if you steal dnh's sand make sure the sunless sea is fixed
11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a cloth spellbook given to her by Kos, on T:10643
11:27 <{Demo}> stealing it for salamander and archipelago
11:29 <dk657> so: if a tame gremlin multiplies, the new gremlins are tame as well, huh?
11:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:68135
11:33 <NCommander> So out of curosioty, anyone where play minecraft?
11:34 <rld> <@riker> I play locally, on hypixel with irl friends occasionally though
11:34 <rld> <@riker> (not sure if "where" is supposed to be "here" or "where"
11:34 <AntiGulp> Yup, my partner and I play together
11:35 <AntiGulp> I started playing when it was in alpha.
11:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:15778
11:36 <aosdict> I played minecraft but haven't for a few versions
11:36 <aosdict> I guess it wouldn't cost anything to download it on this laptop since my account should still be good
11:36 <hothraxxa> this orctown is great! third magic lamp
11:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:68184
11:40 <K2> i should fire up tf2 again
11:40 <rld> <@riker> yes
11:40 <K2> but if I do my kid will see it and that'll be the end of that
11:40 <rld> <@riker> what would her issue be? gun shooty?
11:40 <K2> she'd get hooked like i used to be
11:41 <rld> <@riker> ah
11:41 <K2> i'd never hear the end of it
11:41 <rld> <@riker> that's not an issue :)
11:41 <K2> :)
11:41 <aosdict> when you stop self isolating, "but daddy I don't want to play with my friends anymore"
11:41 <K2> oof
11:41 <K2> so 'virtual playdates' are a thing now
11:41 <rld> <@riker> people I know keep complaining about they can't go hang out with friends and all that
11:42 <rld> <@riker> i'm like, "i am having tons of fun just sitting in a dark room playing nethack and chatting on discord/irc"
11:42 <K2> messenger kids ftw
11:42 <K2> @riker that
11:42 <aosdict> @riker this is the great introvert-extrovert filter
11:43 <nabru> I'm like "being home is what I do normally" 
11:43 <aosdict> I am saying the same thing as you except coding instead of playing nethack
11:43 <rld> <@riker> also filters out the people who claim to be introverted and then panic
11:43 <K2> go to work, go home. rinse/repeat
11:43 <nabru> but I do miss working out outside
11:43 <aosdict> all my local parks and playgrounds are locked >:|
11:44 <rld> <@riker> oh wow these dwarf / gno lord zombies killed the shk
11:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 3531594 points, T:68199, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/davidkent/nethack/dumplog/1585518078.nh.html
11:44 <dk657> yayy
11:44 <nabru> congrats!
11:44 <rld> <@riker> grats dk657
11:44 <AntiGulp> Congratulations dk657!
11:44 <dk657> thanks! nabru: i ascended with some stuff i took off yr dead body i think
11:45 <AntiGulp> Wow, 14 Wizard kills. Sounds like Rodney was being awfully obnoxious today.
11:46 <dk657> i may have taken a sluggish stroll up through the dungeon
11:46 <dk657> i was trying to put my gem collection back together, being an archaeologist and all
11:47 <dk657> on the plus side, the astral plane was extremely easy this time
11:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) wished for "historic holy unlabeled extinguished unlit very unlocked +5 bone gauntlets of power named binford workgloves 9000 prop. t. taylor", on T:11121
11:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 459 points, T:1994, killed by a dart
11:50 <K2> woo congrats dk657!
11:52 <amateurhour> gratz!!
11:52 <{Demo}> whats mazexy for?
11:53 <{Demo}> why is mazexy so ignorant
11:54 <amateurhour> if you can't see the appeal of mazexy body then idk what to say
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12:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1061 points, T:2997, killed by a psionic bolt
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12:08 <AntiGulp> YASI: Casting stone to flesh on a shield results in a meat shield.
12:08 <AntiGulp> Today is punday
12:09 <aosdict> since when are shields made of stone
12:09 <aosdict> I guess if you found one in an obj materials patch
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12:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:11681
12:12 <hothraxxa> yeah! way to go kos
12:13 <K2> nice
12:14 <amateurhour> nice
12:14 <amateurhour> this is sounding like quite the nice run
12:14 <hothraxxa> also early for an evilhack artifact gift
12:15 <aosdict> demonbane being gifted to chaotic?
12:15 <amateurhour> is that a priest's best weapon in evilhack?
12:15 <aosdict> isn't it lawful?
12:15 <hothraxxa> amateurhour: yes it is
12:16 <K2> demonbane is also a priests guaranteed first artifact gift
12:16 <K2> in spork/evil
12:16 <aosdict> so it adjusts itself to chaotic?
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12:16 <K2> because its a mace and not a sword
12:16 <aosdict> weird
12:16 <hothraxxa> i'm happy with it
12:17 <j_> how is priest early game in eh? 
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12:17 <rebatela> that was me 
12:18 <hothraxxa> i'm illithid so i don't think this is a reliable indication of what the priest role is like
12:19 <AntiGulp> Illithid priest is really good early game
12:19 <hothraxxa> strength cap of 13 is nasty
12:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 19288 points, T:9631, killed by a soldier ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze
12:20 <hothraxxa> evilhack priests can't use any kind of edged weapon
12:20 <hothraxxa> without penalty, anyway
12:20 <hothraxxa> god will give you a sword and then get pissed off if you use it
12:20 <rebatela> i knew that. but vanilla you start with a mace too. I used to play priests exclusively in vanilla for long time 
12:20 <K2> hothraxxa you shouldnt be getting any edged weapons as a priest from your god
12:20 <hothraxxa> yeah started with a blessed +1 mace
12:21 <hothraxxa> oh you fixed that? because you used to
12:21 <K2> yeah that was addressed
12:22 <rebatela> maybe that's why you got an artifact so early. can't give you a bunch of crappy swords 
12:22 <hothraxxa> anyway demonbane is what i was after
12:22 <hothraxxa> or daggers
12:23 <hothraxxa> i like to think that was because kos likes me
12:24 <hothraxxa> k2: the wands of striking in orctown aren't used up, or at least the three i tested aren't. i thought all the wands would be empty
12:25 <hothraxxa> so i named them empty, then decided to test one to get rid of a pesky boulder instead of going back to the stash for my pick
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12:40 <{Demo}> yey, ndnh salamander rebel quest and archipelago adventure branch now have sand
12:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 22 points, T:112, slipped while mounting a saddled giant spider
12:51 <NCommander> I'd be willing to spin up a Minecraft realm or dedicated server if peeps are interested in playing.
12:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:323
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12:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1591
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13:00 <amateurhour> ugh, goodbye robe
13:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril spear entrusted to her by Crom, on T:46729
13:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:338
13:05 <Umbire> Iunno why I always thought baby D were people-sized or smaller
13:06 <aosdict> They're not that big, it's just the body shape.
13:07 <amateurhour> robes breaking from polytraps does not spark joy
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13:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Sucker (TIG) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 43325 points, T:7697, killed by a soldier
13:39 <aosdict> https://old.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/fvhpbe/introducing_the_new_and_improved_nethack_yani_archive/
13:41 <rld> <@luxidream> YANI: implement random YANI as false rumors
13:41 <Umbire> lmfao
13:42 <rld> <@luxidream> Does a YANI containing all YANI also contain itself?
13:43 <Pinkbeast> Yes
13:43 <Pinkbeast> The tricky question is whether a YANI that contains all YANIs that do not contain themselves contains itself.
13:46 <rld> <@luxidream> YANI: implement all YANI that do not contain themselves as false rumors
13:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:29705
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:34854
13:49 <aosdict> but all YANI trivially contain themselves
13:57 <rebatela> twice in this early game I've had mines creatures with fire horns 
13:57 <rebatela> no bag just lost so much stuff lol 
13:59 <mobileuser> evilhack question: does a silver shield give you reflection or does it need to be a "polished" silver shield?
14:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Hea Inc Mal Neu), 22122 points, T:5457, burned by molten lava
14:00 <rld> <@riker> mobileuser: shoudl be the polished one only
14:02 <K2> mobileuser it needs to be a 'polished' shield
14:02 <mobileuser> Ah good to know, thx. The search for reflection continues.
14:02 <Umbire> I had to take a second to process that other silver shields might exist
14:02 <Umbire> goddamn materials patch :B
14:03 <K2> heh
14:03 <mobileuser> I have a towel and grease, I should be able to polish it ;-)
14:06 <K2> ^ YANI
14:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 424 points, T:1166, inhumed by an imp
14:07 <aosdict> mobileuser: unfortunately I don't think that bestows magic powers :)
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14:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7499
14:09 <mobileuser> bad Yani
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14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Derp (TIG) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 8640 points, T:319, killed by a water demon
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14:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Derpy (TIG) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4608 points, T:52, escaped
14:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:313
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14:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:20863
14:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 10282 points, T:7395, quit
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:548
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 340 points, T:565, killed by a dwarf
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:47962
14:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:127
14:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:265
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14:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1165
14:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9650
14:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1394
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14:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 pair of speed boots", on T:9668
14:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1566
14:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:9726
14:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14273
14:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1936
14:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1131 points, T:1937, killed by a white unicorn
14:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:9986
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14:49 <AntiGulp> Damn, aosdict, releasing the archive and getting half a dozen commits into vanilla. You’re on a roll.,
14:49 <{Demo}> releasing the archive?
14:49 <aosdict> new site
14:49 <aosdict> https://nethack-yanis.github.io
14:49 <{Demo}> ah, yani archive
14:50 <aosdict> AntiGulp: just a great day all around yes
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14:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:18772
14:52 <{Demo}> sorry but how was this parsed?
14:55 <aosdict> is that a question for me
14:55 <aosdict> what do you mean if so
14:56 <{Demo}> like is this done by hand?
14:56 <aosdict> with the help of some scripts to automate things yes
14:56 <{Demo}> it looks tedious
14:56 <{Demo}> to go through and try to figure out what people meant
14:56 <aosdict> sometimes it is
15:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:11071
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 239 points, T:457, killed by a dart
15:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68613
15:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68619
15:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 252 points, T:560, killed by a dwarf
15:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:68629
15:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:68736
15:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Magenta, her faithful kitten, on T:880
15:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:68738
15:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:3774
15:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:743
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15:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 726 points, T:1606, killed by a soldier of Athena
15:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Hum Fem Law), 279 points, T:771, killed by a gnome
15:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 77 points, T:363, killed by an orcish dagger
15:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Derpes (TIG) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 3448 points, T:195, escaped
15:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled HAPAX LEGOMENON on an altar, on T:3908
15:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:677
15:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3916
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15:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:68962
15:34 <bouquet> wow, aosdict... that's a pretty nice collection of YANIs.
15:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2187
15:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2224
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15:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 4328 points, T:4924, killed by a tengu
15:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 530 points, T:1831, killed by a bolt of lightning, while sleeping
15:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:69134
15:42 <aosdict> bouquet thanks
15:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3412
15:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3492
15:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pick-axe on an altar, on T:3528
15:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1532 points, T:3912, killed by a giant ant
15:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 500 points, T:3961, exterminated by a desert jinn
15:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 7977 points, T:4339, killed by a leocrotta
15:48 <bouquet> I really like UnNethack's version of gehennom. Why hasn't that been more popular in other variants?
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15:49 <rld> <@riker> un = cavern gehennom?
15:50 <bouquet> ya
15:50 <bouquet> with the lava
15:50 <bouquet> beats mazes.
15:51 <bouquet> though I never understood why V and D are all flying around over the lava outside the explorable part.
15:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2856
15:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 503 points, T:816, slaughtered by a sewer rat
15:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:69295
15:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 3774487 points, T:69310, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1585704731.nh.html
15:55 <bouquet> that's a deluge of purple worms! 
15:56 <rld> <@Sig> Found an untouched silver saber in a rusted armory but I'm playing priest and can't use it...
15:56 <rld> <@riker> rip
15:57 <aosdict> grunt and I think evilhack also have cavernous gehennom
15:57 <aosdict> splice too?
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3485
15:57 <bouquet> not splice
15:57 <AntiGulp> Nope, splice’s is just really short
15:57 <aosdict> and a semi-cavernous gehennom is probably eventually what I'm angling for
15:57 <AntiGulp> Wanna rewrite it at some point
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3491
15:57 <AntiGulp> cavernous is imo the best way to go
15:57 <bouquet> maybe one or two classic mazes for old time sake
15:58 <{Demo}> see what xnh does, it is cool, but don't harvest it yet. it isn't ready
15:58 <aosdict> le sigh of why is my gehennom so runaway popular
15:58 <bouquet> modern graphics cards should be able to handle the extra rendering load of the cavernous gehennom.
15:59 <aosdict> relevant https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2096
15:59 <rld> <@luxidream> grunt gehennom is godawful
15:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3630
15:59 <aosdict> yes, but it's cavernous
15:59 <{Demo}> luxi isn't it the same as un?
15:59 <{Demo}> and by extension, dyna?
15:59 <rld> <@luxidream> no, not at all
15:59 <{Demo}> whats the difference?
16:00 <{Demo}> aren't they both caverns?
16:00 <rld> <@luxidream> un and dyna have nice open caverns, mines style
16:00 <rld> <@luxidream> grunt has some barely navigable cancer full of diagonal crawl spaces
16:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 842 points, T:2049, sent to the grave by a coyote
16:00 <{Demo}> ah hmm
16:00 <rld> <@luxidream> also you can't tell the difference between floors and wall good luck
16:00 <aosdict> and random dark lava
16:01 <{Demo}> i don't remember it being but so terrible
16:01 <{Demo}> but maybe i blocked it out
16:02 <AntiGulp> Why is this the most “grunthack” thing I’ve ever heard
16:03 <aosdict> look it didn't just have a reputation for being hard and evil. it had a reptutation for being awful and terrible
16:04 <rld> <@riker> and didn't it also have issues with broken things like "dragonhide cloak of magic resistance and reflection"
16:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 409 points, T:1158, killed by a bear trap
16:04 <rld> <@Tone> dark lava lol
16:05 <rld> <@luxidream> was cloak of the unheld one nerfed
16:05 <rld> <@luxidream> to not give reflection
16:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:18205
16:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:314
16:06 <hothraxxa> dammit
16:06 <hothraxxa> need a bag
16:07 <bouquet> AntiGulp: I forgot to mention the "learn blessing" #technique was a nice touch. Not too overpowered, moderately useful.
16:07 <AntiGulp> Nice!
16:07 <rld> <@riker> luxidream: yes
16:07 <AntiGulp> Still gotta fix some exploits with limitbreaking blessing
16:08 <{Demo}> limitbreaking?
16:08 <{Demo}> probably not as epic as it sounds
16:08 <rld> <@riker> i kinda want a limit break mechanic for monks now
16:09 <{Demo}> what is it?
16:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:708
16:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 15 points, T:162, done in by a sewer rat
16:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 887 points, T:894, killed by an orc-captain, while praying
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "a greased +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:5616
16:17 <mobileuser> that feeling when you find Grayswandir in the statue of Perseus and you are chaotic without saber skill
16:17 <AntiGulp> LImitbreaking is a little-known slash’em mechanic where you can use techniques for free and without charging when at very low health.
16:18 <rld> <@riker> ooh that's a fun abuse
16:18 <{Demo}> wait what
16:18 <rld> <@riker> not particularly broken tbh
16:18 <{Demo}> why don't i know about it?
16:18 <rld> <@luxidream> closet yourself
16:18 <{Demo}> is it not documented on the wiki?
16:18 <rld> <@luxidream> throw sword
16:18 <rld> <@luxidream> bless everything
16:18 <rld> <@luxidream> seems broken to me
16:18 <AntiGulp> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Technique
16:18 <rld> <@riker> collect all the potions in the dungeon
16:18 <rld> <@riker> dilute them all
16:18 <rld> <@riker> turn into holy water
16:18 <{Demo}> tinker
16:18 <rld> <@luxidream> I should try this with cartomancer for infinite scrolls
16:18 <rld> <@riker> bless everything
16:18 <{Demo}> use it for tinker
16:19 <rld> <@riker> seems broken for me
16:19 <AntiGulp> Or if you’re Arc, throw sword, ID everything with research
16:19 <rld> <@riker> limit breaking should only have a specific duration
16:19 <rld> <@riker> and have its own cooldown
16:19 <rld> <@luxidream> make it so you have to hold B to charge it
16:19 <rld> <@riker> 🤔
16:19 <AntiGulp> :)
16:19 <bouquet> speaking of monks... I did some testing with their #techniques this weekend to gauge their usefulness in the late game.  I had an idea which I suppose should be a...
16:19 <AntiGulp> The only reason I’ve put off changing it is because the way it is coded is A W F U L and weird
16:19 <bouquet> YANI: monks #technique timeout gets smaller at higher levels to a minimum of 50 turns.
16:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:454
16:20 <{Demo}> can't resolve nethackwiki on my phone
16:20 <{Demo}> that's questionable
16:20 <bouquet> and chained blitz key combos needs to be more clear
16:20 <rld> <@luxidream> who decided to make nethack into a fighting game
16:21 <AntiGulp> They’re not even good fighting game inputs!
16:21 <{Demo}> ndnh has a way better solution to monk combat techniques than slashem has
16:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 234 points, T:614, killed by a hobbit
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16:22 <AntiGulp> After I retire I’m creating a combination of Melty Blood and NetHack. The ultimate niche game
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16:23 <rld> <@luxidream> We need rogue vs rogue
16:23 <Pinkbeast> I think err I forget his name but the guy who wanted to write FATAL The Roguelike was pretty niche
16:23 <rld> <@luxidream> cross game roguelike fighter
16:24 <mobileuser> rougelike vs roguelike
16:24 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
16:24 <mobileuser> heh
16:24 <aosdict> are we doing FATAL again
16:24 <AntiGulp> no
16:24 <AntiGulp> no we are not
16:24 <rld> <@luxidream> Ultimate Roguelikes vs Roguelites
16:24 <aosdict> I read up on it since I didn't have any idea what it was the last time around
16:24 <aosdict> not a great idea
16:24 <Pinkbeast> You can't unsee goatse
16:25 <hothraxxa> !tell k2 killed a lizard that was passing through iron bars. apparently didn't leave a corpse
16:25 <Beholder> k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, hothraxxa.
16:25 <K2> hothraxxa did I just see you complain about getting a marker in evilhack?
16:25 <Beholder> K2: Message from hothraxxa at 2020-04-05 16:25 EDT: killed a lizard that was passing through iron bars. apparently didn't leave a corpse
16:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 403 points, T:1082, killed by a little dog
16:26 <K2> hmm that would prob be a vanilla bug
16:26 <K2> i didnt mess with corpses and iron bars
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16:26 <aosdict> to the wizmode-mobile!
16:26 <K2> or not a bug
16:26 <hothraxxa> well i don't have acid else i would dissolve the bars and see if the corpse if there but inaccessible
16:26 <K2> you wouldnt be able to get it if it died on the bars yeah?
16:26 <aosdict> ... god dammit, magic lamp in the first room. in wizmode.
16:26 <K2> lol aosdict
16:26 <hothraxxa> well if it dies in a wall i can kick the wall and get it
16:27 <K2> wall != iron bars
16:27 <hothraxxa> i know
16:27 <{Demo}> if you died while in between some iron bars would you not leave a corpse?
16:28 <aosdict> hothraxxa: confirmed in vanilla
16:28 <bouquet> If you died in the forest and no one was around to hear it, would you make a noise?
16:28 <K2> yay vanill abug/not my problem :P
16:28 <K2> bouquet yes
16:28 <hothraxxa> aosdict: is the corspe there if you dissolve the bars?
16:28 <aosdict> no
16:29 <aosdict> I would have been able to see it embedded in the bars anyway
16:29 <K2> sound waves are still created, just because nothing was around to hear them doesnt mean a sound wasnt created
16:29 <hothraxxa> yeah i thought you should see it
16:29 <{Demo}> heat isn't real
16:29 <{Demo}> motion isn't real
16:29 <hothraxxa> you know what's not real? brown
16:29 <K2> this pic i found of {Demo} online doing weird things with a cow isnt real
16:29 <hothraxxa> mooo
16:30 <K2> 'sir, why are you stocking up on family-sized jars of vasoline?'
16:30 <K2> said no one at walmart ever
16:31 * K2 basks in the awkward silence
16:31 <{Demo}> iron bars
16:31 <{Demo}> incase u get stuck
16:31 <bouquet> oh hey, my blood test came back and I'm positive for beerplague antibodies. Come suck my blood plasma for instant immunity.
16:31 <{Demo}> that's my story and I'm sticking to it
16:31 <K2> bouquet :( and yay
16:31 <aosdict> bouquet: you fool! you've extended an invitation to all the vampires!
16:32 <{Demo}> wait I thought u had beer in ur blood somehow and I was excited
16:32 <bouquet> I'm going to try to increase that blood/beer percentage later
16:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 916 points, T:1986, killed by a giant mosquito
16:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:15925
16:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:449
16:34 <rld> <@Sig> Playing an Elf in dnh, every time I put something on it says I feel itchy. Assume this has to do with the iron thing, but does it actually hurt me in any way?
16:35 <bouquet> if it's one of those foxy Baobhan-sith they're welcome to it.
16:35 <rld> <@Xaleth> yay nethack is getting better with the patches from aosdict! hooray
16:36 <rld> <@riker> sig: axes your regen rate heavily
16:37 <rld> <@Sig> Oof
16:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:776
16:37 <rld> <@riker> it's not awful but make sure you rest enough to regain hp between known fights
16:38 <rld> <@riker> if you can, it's not an awful idea to take the item off, wait 30 turns, and put it back on
16:38 <rld> <@riker> (doesn't apply for body armor really, but if it's an amulet / ring / etc.)
16:38 <rld> <@Sig> Thanks for the heads up
16:38 <rebatela> i just applied a spellbook. this has to be newish? 
16:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided rust monsters, on T:16142
16:40 <AntiGulp> rebatela: Yeah, it’s new to vanilla
16:40 <bouquet> did it tell you how worn it was?
16:41 <paxed> hothraxxa: lizards are verysmall so passes_bars()
16:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1385
16:42 <aosdict> yeah the issue is no corpse is dropped
16:43 <aosdict> not that it can go through the bars in the first place
16:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1582
16:44 <rebatela> bouquet: it did indeed
16:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:11421
16:45 * rebatela finds BoH on next level
16:45 <mobileuser> ok.... I think evilhack needs to make Medusa more evil :-)
16:45 <K2> 17 players on hdf, 33 on NAO... thats a lot of ppl playing at once
16:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 762 points, T:1888, killed by a boulder
16:46 <K2> mobileuser oooooh really? :)
16:46 <mobileuser> this was just too easy
16:46 <rebatela> you're gonna die soon 
16:46 <mobileuser> hint: mobileuser (Con Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:33518
16:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1296 points, T:2108, slaughtered by a gnome
16:46 <mobileuser> I was surprised that actually worked
16:46 <K2> did you poly her?
16:47 <mobileuser> yup
16:47 <rebatela> what did she turn into? 
16:48 <mobileuser> a large dog :-)
16:48 <K2> YANI: if a monster is polymorphed into something else, when its new form dies, it reverts back to its original form just as the player does
16:48 <AntiGulp> Slashem does it
16:48 <AntiGulp> I hate it
16:48 <K2> ^ this is already a thing for chameleons and doppelgangers and sandestin in evilhack
16:48 <K2> the YANI i just mentioned would be for anything
16:49 <{Demo}> it is cool in slashem
16:49 <{Demo}> balanced? not really
16:49 <mobileuser> or just for unique monsters maybe?
16:49 <K2> AntiGulp grunthack does it too i think
16:49 <{Demo}> slashem does it best
16:49 <AntiGulp> of course it does lol
16:49 <{Demo}> iirc grunthack's shit is a wee bit fucky
16:49 <K2> yeah its nuts
16:49 <AntiGulp> It makes werecreatures incredibly dangerous
16:50 <K2> mobileuser for uniques would be appropriate i think
16:50 <aosdict> K2: yeah what you describe is a longstanding and much-despised slashem feature
16:50 <rld> <@Sig> Got trapdoored into a throne room. Only exit was through an opening I couldn't fit through without dropping my spellbooks. Feel like I shouldn't be alive right now but I made it out.
16:50 <rebatela> like to polymorph shopkeepers/temple priests
16:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:16470
16:51 <mobileuser> K2 nasty surprise when Medusa appears again when you kill the polymorphed form ;-)
16:51 <K2> \o/
16:52 <K2> she has decent MR i thought... you got lucky pulling that off
16:52 <mobileuser> ah...
16:52 <{Demo}> can you tame polyd her?
16:52 <mobileuser> what is tame polyd?
16:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 43 points, T:491, sent to the grave by a fox
16:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 6214 points, T:10546, killed by a soldier ant, while fainted from lack of food
16:53 <K2> poly a unique -> tame new form -> new form reverts back to unique but still tame
16:53 <K2> that would be sooooo OP
16:53 <mobileuser> mmm I missed a trick then
16:54 <mobileuser> I thought Medusa could never ever be tamed
16:54 <mobileuser> hardwired non-pet
16:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed MHL's ghost, the former Pilferer, on T:16623
16:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:746
16:56 <K2> well if you poly medusa she is no longer medusa
16:56 <K2> and as it currently stands, if you kill her poly'd form, she's dead
16:56 <K2> so moot point
16:56 <mobileuser> ah of course
16:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 38646 points, T:16823, drowned in a moat, while frozen by a monster's gaze
16:57 <mobileuser> Medusa MR 50. Yeah, I got very lucky :-)
16:58 <K2> gonan test something here....
16:58 <K2> gonna
16:59 <rld> <@riker> k2: going to port slashem polymorph?
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 519 points, T:1023, killed by a little dog, while frozen by a potion
16:59 <K2> ooh no
16:59 <AntiGulp> nooooooooo
16:59 <AntiGulp> don’t
16:59 <K2> no no no
17:00 <K2> dont worry
17:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Elf-Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2660
17:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Derp (TIG) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 31488 points, T:4556, killed by a Ms. Wonotobo, the shopkeeper, while frozen by potion vapours
17:01 <hothraxxa> Cannot open file "5hothraxxa.11" for level 11 (errno 2).  Probably someone removed it.  Can't open css file for input. CSS file not included.  Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq] (y)
17:01 <hothraxxa> fuck. what should i do here k2?
17:02 <K2> oooh fuck
17:02 <K2> !who
17:02 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Delraven [slshm] hothraxxa [evil] post163 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] notsogood [nh370] rebatela [nh370] TIG [nh4] hyperion67 [spl] Sig [dnh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] AlbertB [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
17:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:123
17:04 <K2> goddammit i did it again
17:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1144
17:04 <K2> i was playing in the server folder and not wizmode folder
17:04 <paxed> "whoops"
17:04 <hothraxxa> ok. is my game toast?
17:05 <{Demo}> this is why i don't believe in prod
17:06 <K2> i restored from daily backup
17:06 <K2> fuuuuuuuuuuuck
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 209 points, T:371, killed by a gas cloud
17:07 <aosdict> {Demo}: good call, prod doesn't exist
17:07 <hothraxxa> hm. so i should do what?
17:07 <aosdict> it's a secret conspiracy by the illuminati to make you use good coding standards
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17:08 <dingotron> afternoon everyone. 
17:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1579
17:08 <K2> hothraxxa sorry
17:09 <hothraxxa> np. it's just a game
17:09 <hothraxxa> this one was going well. should i just say y and be done?
17:10 <K2> yeah
17:10 <K2> its backed up from midnight
17:10 <K2> fuck goddamit
17:11 <K2> i just fucked over a couple evilhack games that were in progress today
17:11 <hothraxxa> well at least i know there are magic lamps in orctown
17:11 <K2> you ascened before midnight last night right?
17:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:891
17:12 <hothraxxa> yes, i stopped this game when i arrived at orctown
17:12 <dingotron> so i'm playing #evil as a convict hobbit, this is a terrible idea. But let's see if it's winnable.  
17:12 <hothraxxa> there goes demonbane
17:13 <hothraxxa> woo a lot of rpogress lost. such is life
17:13 <K2> really sorry
17:13 <K2> i gotta rethink this setup
17:13 <hothraxxa> hey shit happens. i't fine
17:13 <hothraxxa> it's
17:14 <K2> i'm glad you're not upset about it but its not just your game, there are other games too
17:14 <hothraxxa> maybe this time there's a  bag in the lower mines
17:14 <K2> looking back at the livelog today... ugh
17:15 <hothraxxa> well i KNOW there are at least two magic lamps here in orctown. there might be three, but i think one of them was a death drop
17:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:12648
17:15 <hothraxxa> oh and they're both blessed
17:15 <K2> !who
17:15 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Delraven [slshm] hothraxxa [evil] post163 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] oh6 [nh370] nabru [nh370] notsogood [nh370] rebatela [nh370] TIG [nh4] hyperion67 [spl] Sig [dnh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
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17:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 416 points, T:1754, killed by a wererat
17:17 <K2> Grouchy, krm26, Everdying
17:18 <dingotron> I was wondering what happened today. I logged in because I thought my save file had been lost.. but looks like it got restored just to leaving me roughly where I was yesterday? Anyway, that's fine. 
17:18 <K2> and you
17:18 <K2> sorry dingotron
17:18 <dingotron> no problem
17:18 <K2> this isnt a normal/frequent occurance
17:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:12796
17:18 <hothraxxa> definitely not
17:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3154
17:19 <K2> its because i cant read my own fucking computer screen
17:19 <K2> so pissed at myself right now
17:19 <dingotron> nbd. stuff happens. and it's a free server! 
17:19 <K2> thanks
17:20 <mobileuser> the level of support on a free server is totally amazing
17:20 <mobileuser> big thank you for all you do
17:20 <dingotron> +1
17:20 <K2> thanks guys
17:21 <AntiGulp> +1
17:22 <rebatela> definitely agree. thanks k2. haven't been playing, but i do believe i'm hooked again 
17:22 <rebatela> hothraxxa: sorry that happened to your game. what is this about magic lamps in orctown ? 
17:22 <K2> group hug during pandemic, go
17:23 <hothraxxa> there were two blessed magic lamps lying around in orctown, and a third one that i think was a death drop
17:24 <hothraxxa> sadly a gnome wizard just screwed up my plan with a fireball
17:24 <dingotron> hardfought has a better SLA track record and support than a lot of enterprise-grade platforms I've worked with ;)
17:24 <hothraxxa> had a scroll of remove curse that i needed, but he burned it
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17:24 <rebatela> this is in evil?
17:24 <hothraxxa> yes
17:24 <rebatela> i might try to ascend my giant today 
17:25 <hothraxxa> so i know the lamps are there but getting them will be a lot harder than the last time now
17:25 <hothraxxa> heh
17:25 <hothraxxa> you are way overprepped i think
17:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 132 points, T:227, killed by a bolt of fire
17:25 <rebatela> yeah. i'll probably splat on astral anyway. I was stalling because i needed to wait to learn spells 
17:26 <K2> dingotron :)
17:26 <hothraxxa> if you do the black rain and have a few teleport wands, you should be fine
17:27 <{Demo}> isn't blackrain nerfed?
17:28 <hothraxxa> somewhat. not in his game 
17:28 <dingotron> in other news, I got a convict all the way up to lvl 10 and slayed a dragon at mines end! feeling chuffed about that. Onwards to the mid-game, and let's see where I can still find a way to YASD on the way to gehennom :)
17:28 <rld> <@riker> what happened to purple rain?
17:28 <rld> <@riker> not revgenoable?
17:28 <hothraxxa> many of the monsters on astral now come with a ring of slow digestion
17:28 <rld> <@riker> ah
17:28 <rld> <@riker> but not disint res
17:28 <hothraxxa> no
17:29 <hothraxxa> i think the chance is 50% of having the ring
17:29 <hothraxxa> so it's not a devastating nerf
17:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 179 points, T:836, killed by an acidic corpse
17:32 <mobileuser> good luck dingotron!
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17:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 72 points, T:252, killed by a bolt of lightning
17:34 <nabru> out of nowhere I get blasted with lightning
17:36 <K2> the rings of slow digestion for monsters on astral will be in 0.5.0
17:36 <{Demo}> evilhack extended
17:36 <K2> its for some of them, not all
17:36 <{Demo}> actually that would be a hilarious bastardization
17:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:377
17:37 <K2> so purple rain is still a viable tactic, but you're not going to clean out astral that way
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17:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:846
17:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class n), on T:878
17:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 568 points, T:1060, killed by a goblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze
17:42 <AntiGulp> Dynacitroevilspluntem Xtended Four(k): Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry & Knuckles
17:45 <Pinkbeast> K2: Also if a purple worm swallows a tool-using monster with a wand of digging, well...
17:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1909
17:46 <K2> wand of digging inside an engulfer no longer drops the engulfer to 1 hp
17:46 <K2> its half
17:46 <K2> but they dont do that anyways
17:46 <K2> either they get spit out immediately or they get eaten
17:46 <Pinkbeast> Sure, just making a suggestion ;-)
17:46 <K2> ah i see :)
17:48 <hothraxxa> aren't you supposed to self-isolating?
17:48 <rld> <@riker> lol, mosen probably copy pasted to make sure they spelled the EOTA right
17:48 <hothraxxa> i'd do that. have you SEEN my typing?
17:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 168 points, T:329, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
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17:56 <rebatela> yeah I think i will do the black rain 
17:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:703
17:56 <rebatela> bunch of teleport wands at 0:1 magic harp etc 
17:56 <rebatela> uhhhh k2 
17:56 <rebatela> my evilhack game no work 
17:57 <rebatela> had me pick a character?
17:57 <K2> exit out
17:57 <K2> when did you play last
17:57 <rebatela> i think last night 
17:57 <K2> ok one sec
17:57 <rebatela> best game i've ever had 
17:58 <rld> <@Pacra> man, what a strange gehennom
17:58 <rebatela> in which variant pacra?
17:58 <rld> <@Pacra> orcus straight up ghosted on me
17:58 <rld> <@Pacra> cant find him anywhere
17:58 <K2> ok rebatela
17:58 <rld> <@Pacra> its evilhack, i was prepared for caves which are cool
17:58 <K2> load it now
17:59 <rld> <@Pacra> but its almost like orcus replaced himself with an arch lich
17:59 <rebatela> thanks
18:00 <K2> @Pacra what server you playing on?
18:01 <K2> or are you playing local
18:01 <K2> i dont see you online
18:02 <K2> rebatela game is good yeah?
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1975
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18:06 <K2> !who
18:06 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] omghax [evil] post163 [evil] rebatela [evil] hothraxxa [evil] Frozty [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] hyperion67 [spl] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
18:06 <K2> !whereis omghax
18:06 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] omghax [evil]: (Val Dwa Fem Neu) T:6 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
18:07 <K2> !who
18:07 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] post163 [evil] rebatela [evil] hothraxxa [evil] omghax [evil] Frozty [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] hyperion67 [spl] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
18:07 <K2> !whereis omghax
18:07 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] omghax [evil]: (Pri Hob Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
18:07 <K2> Unix EvilHack Version 0.5.0-0 post-release - last build Sun Apr  5 17:41:48 2020
18:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:349
18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:609
18:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16939
18:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1031
18:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1053
18:18 <K2> !who
18:18 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] post163 [evil] rebatela [evil] hothraxxa [evil] Frozty [nh370] nabru [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] oh6 [nh370] hyperion67 [spl] | [hdf-eu] k2 [evil] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
18:19 <K2> !whereis k2
18:19 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] k2 [evil]: (Rog Hum Fem Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
18:20 <K2> !who
18:20 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] post163 [evil] rebatela [evil] hothraxxa [evil] Frozty [nh370] nabru [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] oh6 [nh370] hyperion67 [spl] | [hdf-eu] k2 [evil] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
18:20 <K2> !whereis k2
18:20 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] k2 [evil]: (Hea Hum Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
18:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 883 points, T:1523, killed by brainlessness
18:20 <rebatela> hey LarienTelrunya I responded to your reddit comment. All in good fun, please know :)
18:20 <K2> got evilhack 0.5.0 on hdf-us and eu, hdf-au will have to wait til after dinner
18:21 <rebatela> oh sweet 
18:21 <K2> be back in a bit
18:21 <rebatela> so i can play it
18:21 <rebatela> ?
18:21 <K2> after your existing game yeah
18:21 <K2> ok back later
18:21 <rebatela> can my 'friend' play it with a new account? 
18:21 <aosdict> I don't think hdf has no-multiple-account rules
18:22 <aosdict> K2 if I'm wrong please let me know so I can haul that filthy traitor aosdictj out here
18:22 <LarienTelrunya> rebatela: lol I wouldn't have connected that with you, although I did feel reminded of you because who else would want to fall into water because teleportitis warped them next to it and there was no --More-- to catch the next keypress? :P
18:23 <LarienTelrunya> also you should play slex *bundlebundlebundle* :D  
18:23 <rebatela> oh know that's not my post
18:23 <rebatela> i'm forbincol
18:23 <LarienTelrunya> yeah you even said that in your reply
18:23 <rebatela> oh ok :) 
18:24 <rebatela> hope the original post wasn't offensive
18:24 <LarienTelrunya> nah we're cool ♥
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18:24 <rebatela> you're one of my fave nethackers lol
18:24 <rebatela> like i said you have spirit
18:24 <LarienTelrunya> thanks :)  I like you too, and I wish I would be as good at the game as you
18:25 <rebatela> there's no way i'm better than you 
18:25 <rebatela> i have this little niche where i can ascend priests and monks 
18:25 <LarienTelrunya> you've ascended evilhack, right? I haven't
18:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:31173
18:25 <rebatela> oh and i've ascended a knight i think 
18:25 <LarienTelrunya> heh the only non-slex role I've ever ascended is the samurai, so I'm kind of a one-trick pony
18:25 <rebatela> no i have the amulet in my giant monk game though 
18:25 <rebatela> i'm about to go to the planes
18:27 <rebatela> i'm a giant monk but i can spellcast if i wield these staffs (and helm of brill obviously). 
18:27 <rebatela> but i can cst polymorph etc...  a giant! 
18:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3738 points, T:4402, offed by a priest of Camaxtli, while paralyzed by a monster
18:27 <rebatela> i also have both eyes and PYEC
18:27 <rebatela> and 758 HP
18:27 <rebatela> MC 3
18:27 <LarienTelrunya> when playing nonslex variants I always ignore spells completely, because samurai can't cast for shit
18:27 <rebatela> reflection and hasting from spellcasting 
18:27 <rebatela> it's hard to get mr/reflection/speed for a giant 
18:28 <LarienTelrunya> to me it sounds not only hard but next to impossible... I honestly wouldn't want to play a giant in evil
18:28 <rebatela> i'm telling ya play monks.  they are like wizards who can fight. makes the early game a breeze total opposite of wiz early game 
18:28 <rebatela> then you can cast all the same spells eventually 
18:28 <LarienTelrunya> ugh non-slashem monks. they deal next to no damage with their little-girl fists :P
18:29 <rebatela> can't write books with 98% but i just polymorph books until i have all my spellsl 
18:29 <LarienTelrunya> grand master maxes out at what, 12 damage or so per hit?
18:29 <aosdict> hence why... rebatela is saying you can cast all the spells?
18:29 <rebatela> in evilhack you get an extra turn at grandmaster... it's HUGE. as long as no shield 
18:29 <LarienTelrunya> also, having to cast reflection sounds so annoying, I just know I'd forget to refresh it at a critical time
18:29 <aosdict> it would be funny if the wimpy martial arts damage still applies to giant monks. does it?
18:30 <rebatela> no i just dropped the amulet and binge casted haste and reflection. I shouldbe fine through the endgame 
18:30 <rebatela> and it frees 2 slots doing that 
18:30 <aosdict> rebatela: next up, K2 implements unnethack's random amulet teleporting when dropped
18:30 <rebatela> i don't need to wear a helm of speed. I could wear jumping boots etc. 
18:30 <rebatela> i think he already did 
18:30 <rebatela> but only in astral 
18:30 <rebatela> rodney's stolen it a couple times now 
18:30 <aosdict> YANI: The Amulet will drain your power even if on the ground near you. It drains less power the farther away from you on the ground it is.
18:31 <rebatela> he stole PYEC too which obviously sucks because then death magic doesn't work 
18:31 <rebatela> but i just melee'd him 
18:31 <rebatela> dislike your idea
18:31 <rebatela> but this is why I hesitate to mention my strategies when I find one that works... you guys go and change your games lol 
18:32 <aosdict> dropping the amulet to cast isn't a new strategy
18:32 <rebatela> but yeah amy, they definitely fucked up monk when adding to nethack. I still love the role and I'm sure I would in slashem, but the interface... It will take me a while to adjust. I'm spoiled by all these little patches and such for vanilla 
18:33 <rebatela> oh I know
18:33 <rebatela> but I'm talking about it
18:33 <rebatela> and you're thinking about making it not work 
18:33 <LarienTelrunya> doesn't hardfought-slashem have most of the popular interface patches?
18:33 <rebatela> yeah possibly. I don't really know what I'm talking about if you haven't figured that out 
18:33 <LarienTelrunya> :)
18:33 <aosdict> rebatela: look, I'm contractually obligated to come up with at least one YANI per day. there's this guy who's publishing a calendar
18:33 <rebatela> lol
18:34 <rebatela> my bad
18:34 <rebatela> i need to get an xnethack ascension in so i can do it if I decide to participate in junethack 
18:35 <aosdict> don't start a game immediately
18:35 <aosdict> want to roll out 5.1 this week
18:35 <aosdict> ^ contains 3.7 merge
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18:35 <rebatela> oh ok sweet. I'll keep my eyes open for that 
18:36 <rld> <@riker> if i'm poly'd into a demon, and a demon doesn't end up bribing me because of it, will he still want a bribe later?
18:36 <rebatela> thank you again for what you do aosdict (and amy) and k2 and tangles etc. etc. I resisted playing during this quarantine as long as I could, but I think this is what I'm gonna do :) 
18:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:576
18:37 <AntiGulp> “Make hezrous stink” is up there for my favorite 3.7 features
18:38 <aosdict> among demons, they still don't stink as bad as horned devils eyyy
18:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:682
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18:38 <AntiGulp> Now I just need nethack to add stench kows and my life will be complete
18:39 <AntiGulp> https://sefotron.blogspot.com/2015/10/stench-kow-large-beast-cr-3.html for those uninformed
18:40 <bhaak> rebatela: you are aware that dropping the amulet is not exactly a new strategy?
18:40 <NCommander> Of course, if nethack adds smells, then we'll have an entire set of conditions relating to when your nose works o rnot
18:40 <aosdict> NCommander: we already have olfaction()
18:40 <AntiGulp> ^
18:40 <aosdict> and vanilla does have smells
18:41 <aosdict> when a monster polys you may smell the thing it turned into
18:41 <NCommander> Ok, if we have isticklish() and tickle(), then I can make Hamlet in Nethack
18:41 <bhaak> aosdict: your YANI would make the teleportation effect obsolete
18:41 <AntiGulp> Variants with nightgaunts do :)
18:42 <bhaak> that reminds me, vanilla has an incomplete list of animals that cannot vomit
18:42 <aosdict> bhaak: my YANI was intended as an alternate way of addressing the drop-n-cast strategy, not intended to be paired with teleportation
18:42 <NCommander> even dwarf fortress doesn't have a tag for animal puke
18:42 <bhaak> aosdict: that's what "obsolete" means :-)
18:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1323
18:43 <AntiGulp> Dwarf fortress has animal puke as a thing tho. Vomitting cats never forget
18:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1340
18:43 <aosdict> what's so special about vomiting cats. that's like, something they regularly do with hairballs
18:43 <rld> <@riker> antigulp: does spl have nightgaunts?
18:43 <AntiGulp> ye
18:44 <rld> <@riker> how do they work?
18:44 <bhaak> aosdict: although now that you mention it, making the amulet teleport only a few squares away at max would be a could combination effect with your YANI
18:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a giant beetle corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:9315
18:45 <aosdict> *amulet teleports into lava on the plane of fire*
18:46 <bhaak> aosdict: hairballs are not vomitted though. it's more like we getting phlegm up and spitting it out. but yes, cats often enough vomit. that's not a rare occurrence
18:46 <bhaak> aosdict: amulet teleporting into lava, that sounds like a feature, not a bug
18:46 <rebatela> if i wish for dragonbane on turn 1 in EH, does something come with it i have to fight? Is there an artifact blast? 
18:47 <rld> <@riker> bhaak: housecats get an AT_SPIT attack now? that sounds fun
18:47 <rld> <@riker> rebatela: you get a knight player monster to fight, I believe
18:47 <rebatela> look at my eh game I'm mrminer
18:47 <rebatela> look at the turn count 
18:47 <bhaak> @riker it would need to be a AT_SLOW_SPIT and take several turns, though ;-)
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18:48 <rld> <@riker> rebatela:
18:48 <rebatela> dam i'm on the australia server 
18:48 <rld> <@riker> rebatela: are you not rebatela
18:48 <rebatela> no mrminer
18:48 <rebatela> on au
18:48 <rld> <@riker> ah
18:48 <rebatela> look at it 
18:48 <rld> <@riker> I see
18:48 <rebatela> f'd right? 
18:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 3054 points, T:2948, killed by a small mimic
18:48 <rld> <@Sig> Elf is such a pain
18:48 <rld> <@riker> blessed dragonhide gauntlets of protection?
18:48 <AntiGulp> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Nightgaunt
18:48 <rebatela> so i'm not wishing for dragonbane yet I guess... can't charge the wand 
18:49 <rebatela> yeah i'm human 
18:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3364 points, T:2197, killed by a gargoyle
18:49 <rebatela> maybe dragonhide speed boots
18:49 <rld> <@riker> yeah that sounds smart
18:49 <rld> <@riker> i'd say wait to wish dragonbane until you find like, a coaligned temple
18:49 <bhaak> rebatela: with that turn count, you just need to whack all the stuff that comes your way and wait for the right death drop ;-)
18:50 <rebatela> +2 or +3
18:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Derps (TIG) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 3988 points, T:246, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted guard
18:50 <rebatela> don't you start with bad luck or something  or is it just prayer count 
18:50 <rebatela> i found wow in soko in my vanilla game today... I thought THAT was good 
18:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a mace entrusted to her by Kos, on T:9421
18:51 <rebatela> the only ever time i found wow in eh early like this I didn't know they came charged, so I wish for charging scrolls and then zapped it and it exploded. (so it was 1:1)
18:52 <rebatela> didn't get the +2should have gone for 3 
18:52 <rebatela> i really wanted to start with sleep spellbook. that's my clutch 
18:53 <rebatela> healing will work 
18:53 <rebatela> what should i wish for????
18:54 <rebatela> t-shirt? dragonhide? 
18:54 <rebatela> can you still wrest the wands? so 1:3 is 4 wishes? 
18:56 <bhaak> yes
18:56 <rebatela> -13 AC on turn 44 and I haven't enchant anything lol 
18:57 <rebatela> i need to hide wand under a boulder or something until i find a sack 
18:57 <rebatela> maybe wish for Boh?
19:01 <rebatela> why does it say I'm in explore mode? 
19:02 <rebatela> Is that why i started with the WoW? 
19:02 <rebatela> bah
19:02 <rebatela> seemed to good to be true 
19:02 <rebatela> did i hit something? 
19:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Derpo (TIG) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 21665 points, T:2376, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food
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19:06 <rebatela> k2: I started a game as Mrminer on AU server. and I started with a 1:3 WoW, and thought I was just lucky but i guess im in explore mode (something I've never used)
19:08 <rebatela> not sure why i picked australia. must have been an accident because i had logged in to watch someone else's game 
19:08 <hothraxxa> well
19:08 <rebatela> so i'm not even playing the new game lol 
19:08 <hothraxxa> two blessed magic lamps, no wish
19:09 <aosdict> congratulations! you are the lucky winner of today's 4% prize drawing!
19:09 <hothraxxa> last game they both paid off :(
19:09 <rebatela> can I still ascend, even though it's telling me i'm exploring and is asking me if I want to overwrite saves etc.
19:09 <Pinkbeast> No, you cannot ascend in explore mode.
19:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:33446
19:10 <Pinkbeast> Er... well, depending on what you mean. You can get the Amulet and sacrifice it on the Astral Plane; you won't leave a record in the scorefile.
19:10 <rebatela> I have 14 max HP and -14 ac LOL
19:10 <rebatela> yeah I know it doesn't count 
19:10 <rebatela> but I didn't do this on purpose !
19:10 <rebatela> how did i do it/ 
19:10 <rebatela> ?
19:11 <rld> <@Pacra> how the heck did you manage to enter explore mode
19:11 <rld> <@Pacra> also i feel like i have really low health in eh to start an ascension run soon
19:11 <rebatela> heh
19:11 <rld> <@Pacra> ~200
19:12 <rebatela> i have all this dragonhide gear and 14 hp
19:12 <rebatela> in my OTHER game i have 758 hp 
19:12 <aosdict> Pinkbeast: you will leave a record in the xlogfile with ascended though right?
19:13 <aosdict> it'll just have the flags bit for explore mode set
19:27 <rld> <@Sig> Found archaic plate mail armor in a shop. 400 base cost. What is it?
19:28 <Pinkbeast> aosdict: TBH I dunno. Probably?
19:30 <rld> <@Sig> It appears to be cursed so I'll just let it be and buy the dwarven mail.
19:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Cyan, her faithful kitten, on T:162
19:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 89 points, T:162, killed by a scroll of earth
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19:34 <rld> <@Sig> The dwarven mail was also cursed
19:39 <rld> <@riker> bronze plate mail sig
19:39 <rld> <@riker> it was renamed bc materials patch
19:39 <rld> <@riker> wasnt removed for des file reasons, along with clockwork armor plating upgrades
19:40 <rld> <@Sig> Ty
19:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1557
19:41 <rebatela> how does one turn on explore mode? I probably fat fingered if it's some command 
19:41 <rebatela> can't i turn it off? I haven't used it other than that wand 
19:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 544 points, T:2177, killed by a large kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze
19:46 <bouquet> I should consider changing my fruitname. "This tastes like AvocadoToast juice."
19:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Pir Wer Fem Cha), 31 points, T:138, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph
19:47 <aosdict> what, you don't puree your avocado toast to use as a spread on more avocado toast?
19:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 171 points, T:369, killed by a water elemental
19:47 <nabru> rebatela: AFAIK you can't
19:48 <bouquet> I just really like avocado toast!
19:48 <aosdict> good, good, you may keep your millennial card then
19:49 <rebatela> deetz on this knight that comes with dragonbane ? 
19:49 <bouquet> more of a healthnut thing isn't it?
19:51 <rebatela> never had avocado toast per se, but I'm definitely not oppsed to it as i love both things 
19:51 * nabru never liked avocado (except maybe on guacamole)
19:51 <rebatela> you should try cutting in wedges and frying in oil 
19:51 <rebatela> that's the healthy way 
19:51 <rebatela> bacon grease works too 
19:54 <bouquet> mmmmm. Bacon.
19:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:373
19:55 <bouquet> werewolf pirate is definitely not a good combo. I think a better player than I will have to try this combo to get it anywhere.
19:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:623
20:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1307
20:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 460 points, T:1311, killed by a wand
20:01 <nabru> yikes, that was dumb of me. Fell inside a store, kicked the door without thinking
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20:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:155
20:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 166 points, T:197, killed by a gnome, while sleeping
20:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:17906
20:08 <K2> rebatela your game on the au server is an old one. there was a flub with a cfg on dgamelaunch, for a brief period you'd start games in explore mode
20:08 <K2> you could play out that game but it wont count for anything
20:08 <K2> that was almost 2 months ago heh
20:10 <K2> !who
20:10 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] nabru [nh370] Frozty [nh370] bouquet [spl] Sig [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] post163 [spl] | [hdf-au] MrMiner [evil]
20:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:386
20:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:601
20:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:680
20:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:755
20:19 <K2> !who
20:19 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] nabru [nh370] Frozty [nh370] bouquet [spl] Sig [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] omghax [evil] MrMiner [evil]
20:19 <K2> !whereis omghax
20:19 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] omghax [evil]: (Tou Hob Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
20:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:12693
20:19 <hothraxxa> yay!
20:20 <K2> !who
20:20 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] nabru [nh370] Frozty [nh370] bouquet [spl] Sig [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [nh370] mosen [nh370] | [hdf-au] MrMiner [evil] omghax [evil]
20:20 <K2> !whereis omghax
20:20 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] omghax [evil]: (Tou Hum Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
20:20 <K2> EvilHack updated (all servers)
20:20 <nabru> !whereis nabru
20:20 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-us] nabru [nh370]: (Sam Hum Fem Law) T:587 The Gnomish Mines level: 5
20:20 <K2> ^ new version 0.5.0
20:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3070 points, T:1879, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze
20:24 <K2> wooot hothraxxa
20:25 -!- K2 changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ EvilHack 0.5.0 has been released!
20:25 <K2> errmahgerd
20:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "historic holy unlabeled extinguished unlit very fixed unlocked +5 bone gauntlets of power named binford workgloves 9000 mk ii prop. t. taylor", on T:12726
20:26 <K2> lol
20:27 <nabru> !whereis nabru
20:27 <Beholder> nabru: nabru is not playing.
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20:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:35175
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21:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:730
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21:19 <K2> evilhack tileset anyone?
21:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1501
21:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1517
21:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1550
21:25 <rld> <@microlance> base it on a monstergirl tilesset from elona
21:25 <K2> @microlance right now its just the basic 16x16 tileset that nethack creates
21:26 <K2> anything beyond that isnt a skillset I have really
21:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 959 points, T:2005, killed by a gargoyle
21:26 <rld> <@microlance> damn elona has 48x48
21:26 <K2> because there are custom monsters and objects not found in any other variant, new custom tiles would have to be created
21:27 <K2> BUT, evilhack tileset is now available via hterm on all three hdf servers
21:27 <rld> <@Sig> What weapons should I be training for pirate? I've just been using the starting cutlass
21:27 <K2> hmm I dunno, never played pirate
21:27 <K2> is this dnh or splicehack?
21:27 <rld> <@Sig> dnh
21:27 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> cutlass = scimitar
21:28 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> but is there any artifact of it?
21:28 <rld> <@Sig> Yeah, but I don't see much in the way of good artifact scimitars in d
21:28 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> too bad
21:28 <rld> <@luxidream> crowning weapon, but it kind of sucks
21:28 <rld> <@microlance> you never need more then basic skill so it doesnt matter much
21:28 <rld> <@luxidream> just use whatever good artifact weapon you find
21:28 <rld> <@Sig> Alright
21:28 <rld> <@luxidream> pirates can't sacrifice for artifacts as you probably know
21:28 <rld> <@Sig> Yeah, I heard that
21:29 <rld> <@Sig> I figured I might still be able to wish for one though
21:29 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> stormbringer or serpent's tongue(in spl)?
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21:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 108 points, T:101, killed by a jackal
21:35 <rld> <@riker> @Sig literally anything
21:36 <rld> <@riker> pirates get 4x chance for an item to be generated as an artifact
21:36 <rld> <@riker> instead of 1/20 it's 1/5 (maybe 1/4 i don't remember)
21:36 <rld> <@Sig> I read that too, which is wild. I still haven't encountered one I don't think
21:36 <rld> <@riker> you will definitely find a bunch of artifacts (if you haven't yet, maybe check vlad's tower, the water walking boots and long sword can be generated as artifacts)
21:37 <rld> <@riker> yeah I mean on average, you'll find 4x more than you normally find
21:37 <rld> <@riker> how many found artifacts do you normally find?
21:38 <rld> <@Sig> I kinda accidentally rushed Sokoban so I'm doing that right now. Usually I don't find any just lying around. They're "called" whatever they actually are right? Or do I have to ID them?
21:38 <rld> <@riker> yes
21:38 <rld> <@riker> you do not
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21:44 <hackedhead> huh. I wonder if the additional frequency makes up for how badly it would ruin artiwishing
21:44 <rld> <@riker> it doesn't
21:45 <rld> <@riker> you get exactly 3 artifact wishes in dnethack, and none of them are tied to found artifact generation like vanilla
21:46 <hackedhead> oh, interesting
21:46 <hackedhead> so it's just purely a boon
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21:46 <hackedhead> that seems quite strong
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21:46 <rld> <@riker> pirates cannot get any artifacts gifted past the first (which is not a weapon, and does object / artifact detection on invoke)
21:48 <rld> <@Sig> And the quest arti isn't a weapon either
21:48 <rld> <@riker> yeah the treasury is kinda funky
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21:54 <Tangles> It's worth noting that pirates get the Marauder's Map as their first and only gift, and that it is possible for this to randomly generate inside a box in a treasure vault on DL1 less than a dozen steps from the starting point, and for the player to waste 10k turns sacrificing for it without knowing this.  Ask me how I know.
21:55 <rld> <@riker> ok, that does require really bad RNG though
21:56 <rld> <@riker> 1. treasure vault on dlvl 1, 2. that treasure vault has a scr of magic mapping 3. the scroll is the marauder's map
21:56 <Tangles> Yeah it was a bit unlucky. FOund it on the way before entering the planes.
21:57 <Tangles> on the way UP
21:57 <rld> <@riker> lol
21:58 <Tangles> if only there was some kind of artifact you could use to sniff out artifacts...
21:58 <rld> <@riker> why were you even looting treasure vaults on dlvl 1 on the asc run?
21:58 <rld> <@riker> i'm curious
21:59 <rld> <@riker> I almost never bother
21:59 <Tangles> Becaue I had not seen the F**king map, so I was curious.
21:59 <Tangles> also because I just can't resist moar loot!
22:00 <rld> <@Sig> Lol
22:00 <rld> <@Sig> Just put on a cursed shield too. I thought if a monster puts a cursed item on there was a prompt telling you it was cursed
22:01 <rld> <@riker> no, only if they try to take it off
22:02 <Tangles> I think pirates probably actually have an advantage getting the 3rd artwish, because it requires giving away 5 other artifacts to unlock it, so finding a lot of random junk artifacts would help.  Is that correct? I've never bothered with it.
22:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:106673
22:02 <rld> <@riker> yes, that's correct
22:02 <rld> <@riker> in the development version there are more uses for extra artifacts, so they got an indirect buff as well
22:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Sig (Pir Hum Fem Neu), 8135 points, T:5368, killed by a scroll of earth
22:04 <rld> <@riker> ouch
22:04 <rld> <@Sig> These deaths are getting embarrassing
22:05 <rld> <@riker> trying to save yourself?
22:05 <rld> <@riker> or read-id
22:05 <rld> <@Sig> Did that without thinking, hoping it would break me free from a giant mimic.
22:05 <rld> <@Sig> Forgot that it would obviously damage me too.
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22:06 <rld> <@Sig> Also the chest at the end of Sokoban was empty?
22:06 <rld> <@Sig> Any idea why that might have happened?
22:06 <rld> <@Sig> I didn
22:06 <rld> <@Sig> 't see an amulet or a bag anywhere, I was looking when I ran into the mimic
22:08 <rld> <@riker> hm
22:08 <rld> <@riker> that's odd
22:08 <rld> <@riker> i've done soko in dnethack like twice, never had that problem
22:08 <rld> <@Sig> Ah dammit I realized what went wrong. I switched to my knives to force the lock, and then I forgot to switch back. That's why I couldn't kill the mimic.
22:08 <Tangles> @Sig: You mean the 'big chest with 10 keyholes'? That's mant to be empty.
22:08 <Tangles> *meant
22:08 <rld> <@Sig> Oh, really?
22:08 <rld> <@Sig> Yeah that's what it was
22:09 <{Demo}> your prize is in another closet
22:09 <Tangles> THe Amulet/bag should have been in one of the other closets.
22:09 <Tangles> Yeah what {Demo} said.
22:09 <rld> <@Sig> One was a mimic and the other was empty.
22:09 <rld> <@Sig> That's why I thought it was in the chest
22:10 <rld> <@riker> ah yeah, the big chests always start each game empty
22:10 <Tangles> Was probably under the mimic. Sounds like you died before you got to check.
22:10 <rld> <@riker> the contents in them are mirrored across any other "magic chests"
22:10 <rld> <@Sig> Oh no, I died to a different mimic. I didn't think the prize could be in the mimic room.
22:11 <rld> <@microlance> the whole first floor of the wizards tower were gremlins :/
22:11 <rld> <@riker> lol rip microlance
22:11 <rld> <@Sig> I had that happen to me once on the swamp
22:11 <rld> <@riker> i hate gremlins
22:12 <rld> <@Sig> Probably my least favorite enemy.
22:12 <hackedhead> ^
22:12 <rld> <@Sig> (I got mysterious force'd back to the swamp 3 times that game too.)
22:12 <hackedhead> gremlins suck so much
22:13 <rld> <@Sig> They suck normally and then sometimes the optimal strategy to beat them is "stop playing for a few hours"
22:13 <hackedhead> I'm supremely bad at that strategy
22:14 <hackedhead> I tend to confuse it with "recklessly bash with whatever I'm already holding"
22:14 <hackedhead> .-.
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22:14 <rld> <@Sig> Lol. Fortunately most of my playtime is during work hours. Unfortunately if I'm not playing during work hours I'm probably playing during gremlin hours.
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22:17 <K2> [22:09] <Rodney> Reddit: EvilHack 0.5.0 has been released https://redd.it/fvq6gb
22:17 <K2> \o/
22:17 <{Demo}> neato
22:17 <rld> <@riker> \o/ all hail k2
22:17 <rld> <@riker> bearer of new versions
22:17 <aosdict> wait did evilhack not have a tileset before
22:17 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> welcome to new version
22:17 <{Demo}> eyyyy rogue level disabled!
22:18 <aosdict> the era where all the variants said as one, "no, we do not want to have this level anymore"
22:18 <{Demo}> wait who else has axed it?
22:18 <aosdict> xnh and un at least
22:18 <K2> aosdict no evilhack never had a tileset before now
22:18 <aosdict> did you ax it?
22:18 <{Demo}> is xnh axing it a new thing?
22:19 <{Demo}> fuck yeah i yeeted that thing into space a while ago
22:19 <K2> @riker thanks, and thank you for your contributions and help
22:19 <aosdict> {Demo} it's new as of xnh 5.0, but that has been out for a while
22:19 <rld> <@riker> k2: i didn't do too much lol
22:20 <K2> doesnt matter, you helped. thanks :)
22:20 <rld> <@riker> np :)
22:20 <K2> less bugs == Good Thing™
22:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:333
22:21 <aosdict> splicehack appears to still have the rogue level in its most recent commit on its development branch
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22:21 <{Demo}> dnh still has it as well
22:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] moxana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 14326 points, T:505, killed by a small mimic
22:22 <aosdict> moxana? is someone else reading girl genius
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22:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:694
22:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 421 points, T:816, killed by a gnome lord
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22:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:30674
22:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:37746
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22:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:743
22:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:764
22:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:38028
22:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Pir Inf Nbn Cha), 3190 points, T:3695, exterminated by a fire ant
22:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:38928
23:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1269
23:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1607 points, T:1381, killed by a soldier ant
23:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:38511
23:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 135 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:31397
23:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:39397
23:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:3611
23:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:3840
23:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 388909 points, T:40056, petrified by a chickatrice
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23:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4393
23:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 444 points, T:1112, killed by a dagger
23:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4958
23:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a mountain nymph corpse on an altar of Hermes, on T:5011
23:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:5266
23:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5383