00:02 that's not how you wash out the taste of meat dude 00:03 :D 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1172 00:07 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 00:12 got an unnethack question for bhaak 00:13 <@luxidream> Cake 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2043 00:17 why him specifically? 00:17 her? 00:18 Maybe 00:18 picaresquieu, why them specifically? 00:19 probably because bhaak is the author of Un. Maybe one of us randos can answer your question? 00:19 or so I'm told. 00:20 well, maybe 00:20 so the wiki tells me this about nesting bags of holding 00:21 or rather, about what happens with BoH accidents 00:21 In SporkHack and UnNetHack, an exploding bag of holding scatters its contents nearby rather than destroying them. In xNetHack, 1⁄13 of the contents are destroyed, and the rest are scattered. 00:22 so i've had my share of accidents with BoHs, this time at least i had the foresight to take out all the potions first 00:22 i was doing the nesting technique, to carry up all the gold, gems, and artifacts at about 1/16 the weight 00:23 i had already successfully nested it once with the use of 7 sacks. Now here I am about to enter the Planes, and I decided to add the rest of my collected gold and gems 00:23 this time there was an explosion. Oh well, that's the risk 00:24 Ooh 00:24 f 00:24 F 00:24 but, the single scroll of remove curse which i had in the outer bag remained 00:24 while the sack (containing six more sacks and then the inner bag of holding, with all the gold and gems and artifacts) vanished 00:24 Nice™ 00:25 i'm just looking to see what the odds of that were 00:25 1/bug? 00:25 the RNG hath not smiled on me this day 00:25 Well there's only two items in there technically 00:25 the scroll and the sack 00:25 that's right 00:25 the sack got 1/13'd and it just happened to have your everything in it 00:26 it would seem so 00:26 i.e. I don't think it accounts for container contents or nesting there of 00:26 within a given BOH 00:26 however in that case the wiki has bad info, it doesn't say there's that 1/13 chance in unnethack 00:26 probably worth seeing if that's the case for sure and then noting it 00:26 "In SporkHack and UnNetHack, an exploding bag of holding scatters its contents nearby rather than destroying them. In xNetHack, 1⁄13 of the contents are destroyed, and the rest are scattered. " 00:27 Wait this is Un 00:27 yes 00:27 Its chances aren't listed though 00:27 so now I have no idea if it was 1/13 or what 00:27 that's something you'd have to peek at code for 00:28 go figure, the priceless sack disappears and the single blessed scroll of remove curse survives 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1799 points, T:3658, killed by a jaguar 00:28 the Yendorian economy just underwent a Big Crunch in my game file as 140k gold vanished in the blink of an eye on DLVL:1 00:29 eh, just get the leprechauns in congress on a stimulus bill 00:29 -!- Porkman_ has joined #hardfought 00:29 they'll handle it :B 00:29 hey porky 00:29 slex's void branch is, i confirm, a suicide mission 00:30 -!- Porkman_ is now known as porkman 00:30 ehhhhhh I'd make the usual quip but I'm not feeling inspired 00:30 what're you dealing with there? 00:30 lol, what's the usual quip? 00:30 ok, so you have permanent map amnesia 00:30 and every room is a special room, with all the monsters in it spawning awake 00:30 something something "slex is a suicide mission" 00:30 I've never heard good things about The Void. What's the payoff? 00:31 uh, five artifacts, skill unlocks, permanent +5 to hit +1 damage and 10% less spell fail 00:31 granted that's not the usual quip, I at least try to make them halfway funny 00:31 that one was just... rote 00:31 prob. bit tasteless too 00:32 but if i don't splat in here 00:32 i'll be the first one to have killed tzkrrrrrwhatshername 00:32 haha yendorian gold minting machine go tzkrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 00:34 sounds awesome 00:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:35 tiksrvzllat, that is 00:35 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:95521 00:35 which hits like a fucking train 00:35 [hdf-us] [dyn] me8 (dragonspeaker) (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1575 points, T:3881, killed by a werewolf 00:36 <@riker> how much does a train hit for? 00:36 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:95536 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1093 00:38 a train? 3d4 x2 00:38 (there actually is a train monster in slex) 00:38 Can you suplex it? 00:38 <@riker> if anybody's curious apparently she does 10d10 x6 00:39 oh, is that all /eyeroll 00:39 aye plus disenchant, stat loss, other nasty stuff 00:42 but, i have a strategy 00:43 !lotg porkman 00:43 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, porkman! 00:44 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 00:45 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 00:45 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Mon Inf Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:4911 00:47 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 00:50 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:96074 00:53 dang. Thought I got the soy ooze. 00:54 lol 00:54 there are monster attacks that make you pray (to moloch in gehennom) 00:55 now...i need a new cloak 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2747 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2760 00:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:57 -!- gnosise has joined #hardfought 01:00 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:01 -!- gnosise has quit [Client Quit] 01:01 -!- gnosise has joined #hardfought 01:01 -!- gnosise is now known as picaresquieu 01:01 wow. 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2912 01:01 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 819330 points, T:96276, killed by a vorpal jabberwock (with the Amulet) 01:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:03 <@riker> :( 01:04 that just ruined my week 01:11 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:13 aw 01:13 i typically just geno them 01:15 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:20 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 01:20 nope, far too high on hubris 01:21 i had put on a life-saving amulet too, right there in the PoE 01:21 reconsidered it because the AoY might help me find the portal faster, and of course i am invincible 01:22 i'm never gonna forget this one 01:22 ::immediately forgets this one:: 01:24 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 01:24 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Client Quit] 01:26 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4302 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:12772 01:37 -!- Lymia has quit [Quit: Hugs~ <3] 01:39 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5402 01:56 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 01:56 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 02:06 * Andrio stole the shop's entire inventory barring a pile of rocks 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:6413 02:12 About that message 02:12 You don't actually have to be wielding the sword, right? 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] introsp3ctive (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1915 points, T:3420, killed by a water moccasin 02:50 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 02:50 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04 when a magic bag explosion occurs, the item you try to put in is destroyed. it is technically not yet part of the other's bag content, so it won't be scattered. 03:06 but I agree, the scattering should be symmetrical. but this feature was written primarily for wand of cancellation. 03:06 another feature sloppily implemented by lorimer ;-) 03:10 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:16572 03:12 Oh hey, a giant mimic store. 03:12 I guess I'm stealing your entire inventory also. 03:14 a giant mimic store? what variant are you playing? 03:15 Vanilla 03:16 inb4 Amy entering 03:16 heh? 03:16 calling 3.7 a variant :) 03:16 You don't every day see a shop on Dlvl:3 with a giant mimic in it though. 03:16 ah, just one. "a giant mimic store" sounds like a shop selling mimics :) 03:17 It technically is 03:17 If you don't die to the mimic first. 03:20 \ 03:20 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law), 172618 points, T:30592, killed by a rock troll, while praying 03:26 Back slash! 03:31 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:31 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:31 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:32 <@luxidream> ⠀ 03:33 <@luxidream> / 03:33 <@luxidream> ⠀ 03:33 <@luxidream> Air slash! 03:33 Buster! 03:34 <@luxidream> I'm really feeling it! 03:45 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:49 that's the problem when working from home and having clingy cats 03:50 It's bones. Of course. 03:53 Ooh 03:53 The silver saber is blessed +0 03:58 You have a very bad case of stomach acid. You hear the wailing of the Banshee... 03:58 oops 03:58 fortunately I have a ring of increase hit points 04:01 (regeneration) 04:02 <@luxidream> I thought you meant gain constitution 04:02 time is the greatest healer 04:03 Well, that does technically increase hit points. 04:03 Sort of. 04:03 yeek, that was scary 04:03 almost got petrified by a solider 04:04 Oh god~ 04:04 Yeerks are scary, yeah 04:04 on the plus side, I have gloves now 04:04 har 04:04 evilhack has those now, more or less 04:04 <@luxidream> https://te4.org/wiki/Yeek 04:20 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:34 bhaak: oh, you adding BoH scattering to 3.7? 04:43 ooh 04:47 paxed: I thought you did already? 04:48 I seem to really have problems with a vanilla that is in development. I lose track of what is in vanilla and what is in variants 04:56 bhaak: nope. 04:57 I might be misremembering from looking at what it would take to port it over. 04:58 we can't just copy it, as 3.7 has code for #tip which is close enough to what unnethack uses for #tip and dumping a container before scattering it. 05:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:17 i thought a bit more about endgame mounts 05:17 is there even any left? i don't think so 05:17 i don't think any mount can survive the planes 05:20 Hmm first time? Hitting with an iron ball doesn't break weaponless conduct? 05:21 its not a weapon, its an iron ball 05:21 Cool! Still does massive damage :-) 05:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:33 Quetzal, I know about the damned castle 05:43 K2: cute bundle girl commit for evilhack when :D 05:45 what does that entail? 05:46 not really sure because K2 keeps announcing that it'll be a Thing(TM) but hasn't committed anything in that regard yet 05:52 lol just found out that our IT guy sent an email yesterday saying that those who are forced to work from home now can request financial assistance for males, females, diverse(??? what's that), pets and voices(??? wtf), but only on April 1st 05:56 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:59 :o 06:12 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:754 06:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:782 06:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 210 points, T:849, killed by a dwarf 06:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] noodle (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 272 points, T:1174, killed by a falling rock 06:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:396 07:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 226 points, T:507, killed by a jackal 07:07 !tell stenno2 a silver dragon mount can probably survive the planes? 07:07 I'm on it, aosdict. 07:10 why would "can be ridden" and "can equip items" be mutually exclusive anyway? 07:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:173 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1479 07:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1231 points, T:1856, killed by a human mummy 07:38 morning 07:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:100 07:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:269 07:43 Hi K2 07:43 hiya 07:45 So far I like the Convict role in Evilhack. Very nice to have sickness resistance and the iron ball does massive damage :-) 07:45 :) 07:45 you'll want a real weapon at some point though 07:46 And I get the feeling you can carry more and hit more easily at a low level than in vanilla? 07:46 that doesn't make sense for a harder than hard class 07:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:37025 07:46 mobileuser no 07:47 oh my imagination :-) 07:47 overall convict is a very hard class to play 07:47 yeah sounded like grade-a variant paranoia (but the positive kind where you think the variant made something easier) 07:48 got any thoughts for future roles/races you would like to add K2? 07:48 druid role 07:48 been working with aosdict and AntiGulp on ideas, we may do a joint addition of that role to all of our variants at roughly the same time 07:49 but right now its still just in discussion mode 07:49 i dont see me adding any more races to evilhack 07:49 uh... I'm not planning on adding any new roles any time soon 07:49 possibly ever 07:49 change your mind? 07:50 firbolg at the same time as you add druid perhaps 07:50 I don't see a particular benefit to several variants all adding a new role at the same time 07:50 so why bother coordinating it 07:50 well in several variants you can enjoy learning how to use the new role 07:50 and in one variant you can enjoy getting your ass handed to you instead 07:51 aosdict that wasnt your position at all last time we were discussing druid 07:51 hmm 07:51 ah well 07:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 360 points, T:1489, killed by a water moccasin 07:52 I'm pretty sure at no point did I get behind an idea to all of us add druid around the same time 07:53 amateurhour: my current work flow is to get 0.5.0 out soon, by this weekend if at all possible, then this fall/winter release 0.5.1 with druid role 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for her first artifact, on T:6741 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "The Magic Mirror of Merlin", on T:6741 07:53 <@microlance> one change that would make sense would be to make valkyrie human only and let dwarves be priests and knights 07:53 and maybe a 2nd side branch 07:53 ooh nice K2 07:54 @microlance dwarves can be priests in evilhack and a few other variants. i think dwarves can be knights in some other variants 07:55 I think a the whole idea of a dwarven valkyrie is ridiculous 07:55 <@microlance> yeah i know but i mean in keeping with vanilla, i dont understand why dwarves cant be priests at the very least 07:55 a valkyrie with a beard 07:55 <@microlance> its so DnD with a dorf priest 07:56 <@Suzune Takada> in LotR, Gimri said female dwarves also have beard 07:57 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Val Dwa Nbn Law), 10 points, T:61, sent to the next life by a water moccasin 07:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:58 <@Suzune Takada> early fountain drinking is also depend on lock 07:58 <@Suzune Takada> oops. luck 08:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 115 points, T:328, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 08:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6840 08:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 940 points, T:1456, killed by a dwarf 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:62, killed by a jackal 08:07 <@Suzune Takada> whoops 08:08 <@Suzune Takada> can't anachronaut in dnh eat corpse? 08:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:43, killed by a sewer rat 08:09 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Val Hum Nbn Law), 0 points, T:12, killed by trying to drink lava 08:11 <@Suzune Takada> sry anachrononaut 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:328 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 115 points, T:397, killed by a falling object 08:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:16 aosdict, AntiGulp is going to be sad when she finds out you're no longer interested in druids 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:742 08:17 sounds like they're still interested in druids, just not married to the idea of adding to several variants at once 08:17 I could be misinterpreting though 08:18 <@Suzune Takada> druid... maybe the return of The Palantir of Westernesse? (former "role" elf quest artifact in old nh) 08:18 well its not like we were planning a druid release on the ame day for all three variants. but the timelines could have been close 08:18 *same 08:18 <{Demo}> I thought about doing a Diablo style druid for ndnh 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:939 08:20 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 367 points, T:1027, eliminated by a hallucinogen-distorted bat 08:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] SuzuneTakada (Ana Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1511 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1010 08:21 <@Suzune Takada> oops can't offerable 08:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1058 08:25 {Demo} remind how diablo druids are 08:25 i havent played diablo in forever 08:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] SuzuneTakada (Ana Hum Fem Neu), 6308 points, T:2229, killed by a wolf 08:29 <{Demo}> https://diablo.gamepedia.com/Druid_(Diablo_II) 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1987 points, T:1447, killed by a watch captain 08:30 damn you firewall block 08:30 i dont want to override 08:36 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Orc Fem Cha), 187 points, T:359, killed by a jackal 08:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Hum Fem Law), 207 points, T:866, killed by a gnome lord 08:42 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:741 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:850 08:46 You descend the stairs. There is a staircase up here. 08:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:38049 08:47 :) 08:47 To be fair, you aren't guaranteed to end up on the stairs. 08:54 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 820 points, T:1585, killed by a gnome 08:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:01 <@Suzune Takada> wow convict 09:01 <@Suzune Takada> so difficult role 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2185 09:04 K2: If you two are raring to go on druids, it actually becomes better for me to wait and see how they are received before setting any plans in motion 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:2261 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2262 09:05 and I'm not "no longer interested in druids". my stance on them hasn't changed. new roles are a very low priority in the 2000 line xnethack backlog of desired features 09:09 K2: druids can shapeshift to werebear/werewolf form 09:09 and they were in D2:loD 09:09 LoD 09:10 well, wolf and bear 09:10 not werefoo 09:10 oh you mean diablo 09:10 diablo had evil-ish druids yeah? 09:10 i'd say they were neutral in the D&D sense 09:11 true neutral 09:11 now i kinda wanna watch mrllamasc speedruns 09:13 why does no one do a full D2 speedrun? why only normal difficulty? lame 09:13 hmm... being true neutral, didnt think changing into a were anything was allowed, since werefoo are an aberation against nature 09:13 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Nbn Cha), 356 points, T:1331, killed by a boiling potion 09:13 but, diablo doesnt exactly play by d&d rules 09:14 * LarienTelrunya might want to watch a D2 speedrun but only if it's all three difficulties and the goal is to defeat hell baal :P 09:14 which is a good thing 09:14 and yes I know it's probably a lot of RNG (getting good item drops) but still, doing only normal is lame 09:17 <{Demo}> nethack doesn't exactly play by d&d rules either :) 09:17 <@Suzune Takada> bows are just ignored unless the player is ranger or samurai 09:18 tru... tru 09:19 !PoM 09:19 APic: The moon is at first quarter; full moon in 5 days. 09:19 <@Suzune Takada> oops default ring is iron and I'm elf 09:19 K2 when will we see evilhack's fleece bundle branch? ♥ 09:19 LarienTelrunya - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2529/source 09:19 what?! but you keep announcing that it'll be there soon? 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:407 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:432 09:20 ok.. what is the 'fleece bundle' branch 09:20 the one with your daughter and the dogs 09:20 ahhhh 09:20 <@Suzune Takada> q. why other variants don't have yeoman? a. because it's too similar to knight 09:20 this weekend i hope 09:20 yay! 09:21 i have already made my kid and our dogs as monsters in monst.c 09:21 mini-me will be a challenge 09:21 and she quotes Frozen hahah 09:21 man I can't wait to see you finally commit it : 09:22 :) 09:22 i'm trying to get these levels made... slowest part 09:22 LarienTelrunya: mrllamasc did those speedruns 09:22 but they take like 8 hours or so 09:22 LarienTelrunya thanks! 09:22 yeah mapmaking takes a long time, it's the main reason why I don't add as many playable roles to slex as I do races 09:22 stenno: ah, are they on yt too? 09:23 yeah 09:23 also HC speedruns 09:23 LarienTelrunya you cant steal my kid for slex 09:23 why not? 09:23 because 09:24 that said, slex's dungeon already has so many branches that I might not have room to add another anyway 09:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9h6FZqBsjg 09:24 or at least, not without overcrowding the dungeon, there's tons of branches already 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 940 points, T:889, killed by a gnome 09:25 stenno: wow, so they do in fact exist 09:26 <@Suzune Takada> personally speaking, I'm non-binary in the real life so it's glad spl has the non-binary gender 09:26 according to antigulp, that was hard to implement 09:27 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:27 see! if you say her name enough times, she appears 09:27 <@Suzune Takada> so, huge thanks 09:27 @Suzune Takada You’re very welcome! :) 09:27 AntiGulp: Message from bouquet at 2020-04-01 19:47 EDT: 0.7.1 looks good! I'm ready to test my astralspat strategy. 09:28 heh, someone on 4chan wanted me to make 32 genders for slex 09:28 AntiGulp - aosdict hates druids, he's bailing on us 09:28 :P 09:28 Then he’ll reaaaaaaally hate the new role I’ve been designing 09:28 K2 is fake news 09:28 ^ alternative facts 09:29 lol 09:29 AntiGulp whatcha making? 09:29 is it... a druid? 09:29 <@Suzune Takada> whoa 09:29 <@Suzune Takada> gnome has serpent's tongue 09:30 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2397 points, T:3567, mowed down by a gnome 09:30 I love the _idea_ of druids, and I love _designing_ the role, I just don't consider it a high xnethack priority. 09:30 :) 09:30 In regards to the difficulty of adding non-binary, vanilla stores gender as a boolean called female. So I had to switch it to an int go through the entire codebase and create my own functions to deal with gender not being a boolean. Splice’s gender code is now actually (in my biased opinion) way more readable and efficient than vanilla, but damn did it take a long time to do. 09:31 New role similar to the calculator from final fantasy tactics: A mage that manipulates the game via mathematical functions. 09:33 <@Suzune Takada> question: in spl, pets don't attack the watchmen of minetown unlike vanilla. it's changed behavior in spl? 09:33 AntiGulp: can (normally binary) monsters be nonbinary or is that still just mtmp->female? 09:34 @Suzune Takada That’s a known bug, already fixed in the next version. 09:34 <@Suzune Takada> ah just bug... okay 09:35 aosdict: That’s unchanged, I just altered the function for pronoun use so intellegent monsters without a gender use they/them. I’ve already edited the hell out of monst.h 09:38 <@Suzune Takada> oops I forgot elves in spl are weak against iron weapons 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1108 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 662 points, T:1350, killed by an imp 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5244 09:43 AntiGulp whats your timeline for 0.7.1 release? 09:43 whats your goal? 09:43 <{Demo}> where do you see yourself in 5 years? 09:43 heh 09:44 leading a faction of apocalypse survivors 09:44 ^ demonstrates leadership, which is what they want 09:44 K2: Before Junethack. I’ve still got a number of major things I want to finish up (alignment quests, additional materials, porting a few things from other variants, possibly monstertechs). 09:45 Oh, and fixing monter steeds once and for all, which is what I’m currently banging my head against the wall with 09:46 gotcha 09:47 In five years: Letting the days go by, same as it ever was 09:48 hah 09:48 love that song 09:48 ^ which is also a song title from another band 09:48 It’s such a great song. Incredible music video too 09:48 I should be doing a lot more stuff for junethack, but I've been totally sidelined with getting the YANI Archive fully updated and online 09:49 heck I haven't even released 5.1 yet 09:49 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Wiz Elf Nbn Cha), 3788 points, T:3411, done in by a hill orc 09:50 <@Suzune Takada> elves are more different race in some variants than vanilla 09:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] arnibald (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:64680 09:55 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:22122 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6964 points, T:6805, killed by a wraith, while praying 09:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 32 points, T:78, killed by an arrow 10:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 14 points, T:65, killed by a jackal 10:01 <@Suzune Takada> wow. the last ascend of slex is a year and 9 months ago... 10:01 uhh no, the last ascension is a few weeks ago 10:01 <@Suzune Takada> Ah. I saw the scoreboard site 10:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40856 10:02 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:04 K2, will current evilhack games switch to 0.5 when you release it? 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:40964 10:05 no, they are not save compatible 10:05 you'll play out any existing older games first 10:05 ah ok thx good to know 10:05 ^ this is the same for any variant on hardfought if a save breaking update comes out 10:08 <{Demo}> shit, i was gonna do an ndnh april fools day release and the joke was gonna be that there was no joke, just new stuff 10:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:41171 10:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 110 points, T:183, killed by a dwarf 10:18 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:20 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an Olog-hai, on T:13595 10:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:35 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:839 10:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:24045 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1199 10:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:42608 10:43 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 454 points, T:292, killed by a hobbit, while praying 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 996 points, T:1469, killed by an arrow 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:23296 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2124 10:51 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 832 points, T:482, killed by a gnome 10:53 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 178 points, T:539, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:2370 10:54 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 63 points, T:282, killed by a grid bug 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2579 10:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:42905 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 2931 points, T:4030, killed by a dwarf king 10:55 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed mosen's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:2642 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) murdered Rocket, his faithful little dog, on T:2670 10:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha), 5402280 points, T:42952, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1585224626.dnh.txt 10:57 GG! 10:57 <@malor> thanks 10:58 <@Suzune Takada> congrats 10:58 <@malor> thanks 10:58 another day in the dnethack office for malor 10:58 rank 2 in z-score now, after tariru 10:59 @malor win a tourist and you are #1 10:59 <@malor> It's on the list :) I have ascended every role but tourist and every race but dwarf now. 11:00 <{Demo}> damn wow 11:01 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 624 points, T:987, killed by a giant eel 11:01 <@Suzune Takada> giant eel in 3rd floor 😦 11:05 Go team a! 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Andrio's ghoul, the former Field Worker, on T:3078 11:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a jackal, while praying 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnome corpse, on T:3173 11:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 995 points, T:946, killed by a rothe, while praying 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16653 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:6334 11:29 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:30 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:31 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 11:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:9723 11:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:10143 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:10343 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1523 points, T:1134, quit 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:412 11:52 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 795 points, T:2728, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:912 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:7119 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had a katana entrusted to her by Set, on T:23656 11:58 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cavemain (Bin Clk Mal Law), 1023 points, T:1515, quit 12:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cavemain (Bin Dwa Mal Non), 238 points, T:356, killed by a fox 12:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1850 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1901 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed messias' ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:9348 12:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2622 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1912 points, T:2650, killed by an ettin mummy 12:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 12:20 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:20191 12:24 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 586 points, T:1952, mowed down by a kitten 12:30 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Mon Inf Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5975 12:30 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Car Inf Nbn Cha), 107 points, T:137, killed by opening a silver container 12:32 Silver containers exist? 12:32 -!- nabru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32 Neat:tm: 12:33 what, you don't have a stylish silver chest at home? 12:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:9980 12:39 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 35 points, T:386, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 12:41 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a long sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:21050 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] Helios (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1752 points, T:4293, killed by a brown mold 12:55 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Gul Mal Cha), 1211 points, T:1701, done in by a gnome 12:58 Umbire: I am reading an idea you wrote in January which involves a "studied debuff", implying that there are some variants that implement that already. Do you know which ones? 12:58 Uhhhhhhhhh. 12:58 I know I saw it on the wiki. 12:58 I wanna say dNet? 12:59 Not sure off the top. 12:59 <@riker> yeah that's dnethack 12:59 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Rog Hum Nbn Cha), 211 points, T:425, inhumed by a gnome lord 12:59 <@riker> source: have played dnethack 13:03 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest49899 13:03 -!- Guest49899 has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 13:03 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 13:06 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11174 13:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Sam Hum Fem Law), 282 points, T:668, killed by a water demon 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12759 13:14 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bin Sal Fem Non), 221 points, T:511, killed by a grid bug 13:19 <@malor> the studied debuff is pretty powerful. You can get really pounded on during it's effects. 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11721 13:19 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Sam Hum Nbn Law), 254 points, T:477, slain by an invisible gnome lord 13:34 <@Blargo> Hey, I just completed sokoban on the latest version of Nethack on Hardfought- anyone know why the bag at the end seems to be just a normal bag, instead of a bag of holding? Also- a few levels of Soko appear to have been mirrored? is this new? 13:36 I don't know about the bag being a normal bag (looks like a bug) but the mirroring is new for 3.7 yes 13:36 minetown has it too 13:37 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pri Dro Mal Neu), 2176 points, T:2084, killed by a dwarf 13:37 <@Blargo> Mirroring cool! Normal bag sucks, lol. Is there somewhere I should report this? 13:38 https://nethack.org/common/contact.html I'd say 13:39 tell the dev team 13:39 are you sure it's not a bag of holding? 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:667 13:39 Mmm, what makes you say it's a normal bag? (There is no item called "bag"). 13:40 pretty sure there is 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:735 13:40 unidentifed bag 13:40 That's not an item called "bag". 13:41 all four bags (BoH, oilskin, bag of tricks, sack) appear as 'bag' if they are not identified 13:41 <@Blargo> It does not unenumber me, and when I named the type of object HOLDING my other normal sack also changed its name to HOLDING 13:41 not conclusive evidence. 13:41 just wished for a bag in wizmode. i got... t - a bag 13:41 your 'normal' bag may be a BoH 13:42 hothraxxa: but what kind of bag? 13:42 It doesn't unencumber you; but did you check from just-Burdened? 13:42 haha it's a bag of holding 13:42 <@Blargo> @Pinkbeast I believe so, but I will do some more testing 13:43 <@Blargo> let me just use a scroll of identify and we'll find out, lol 13:43 Or you could put them into each other to check. (Please don't actually do this.) 13:43 <@Blargo> Lmao 13:44 if the type name is the same, maybe you already had a bag of holding 13:45 <@Blargo> whelp.... it looks like I have two bags of holding. lmao 13:46 <@Blargo> sorry for the false alarm folks 😅 13:46 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Con Sym Fem Cha), 588 points, T:707, killed by Ms. Kiltamagh, the shopkeeper 13:46 leave one in a safe place so you don't inadvertently put them into each other 13:48 <@Blargo> Will do. In hind sight I was probably still encumbered because I'm running around with Mjollnir and about a dozen daggers 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1573 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1573 13:49 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2858 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1770 13:52 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 13:52 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3152 13:52 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3152 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had a scale mail entrusted to her by Set, on T:23848 13:53 buzz off set 13:53 where's cleaver? 13:55 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:56 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:02 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 14:02 -!- 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(Arc Hum Mal Neu), 36508 points, T:2355, killed by a snake 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:25426 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25428 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:26771 15:19 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1189 points, T:2253, defeated by a giant bat 15:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:23096 15:30 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 150 points, T:1823, slaughtered by a small mimic 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had an axe entrusted to her by Set, on T:25890 15:33 set is being a dick 15:34 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 49 points, T:277, defeated by a goblin 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:25953 15:43 that's better 15:44 [hdf-us] [fh] Wormokker (zor) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 31157 points, T:1512, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 15:49 Nice hothraxxa, finally Cleaver 15:49 Happy barbarian :-) 15:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Arc Hum Fem Law), 532 points, T:717, killed by a human 15:59 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 694 points, T:462, killed by a dog 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 495 points, T:1493, killed by a falling object 16:03 aosdict: 'studied' is what the tons do 16:03 @d?monoton 16:03 monoton (e) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 1 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confers: sleep | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Attacks: 1d1 passive paralyze, 1d11 gaze study, 1d10 passive grow | Alignment: 2 | Flags: flies, amphibious, breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, infravisible 16:04 -!- murphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:05 -!- murphy_ has joined #hardfought 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL 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mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 8320 points, T:5902, killed by an owlbear 16:35 <{Demo}> rip github rn :( 16:41 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 16:43 Can the wand of wishing in the castle get lost/destroyed somehow? 16:43 AlbertB: Message from K2 at 2020-03-01 08:37 EDT: Tangles discovered the cause and we just made a fix for it server-side. config things with the latest options overhaul updates from devteam 16:44 <@Tone> AlbertB: Was the chest there? 16:44 I found the Elbereth writing with some scroll of scare monster but there wasn't any chest or wand. 16:44 <@Tone> hmm how long ago did you start this game? 16:45 I checked all remaining chests but none had any wand. 16:45 <@Tone> I think there was a level gen bug (or some other bug) where the chest didn't generate? 16:45 <@luxidream> probably an old 3.7 16:45 <@luxidream> and some soldier has it 16:45 <@Tone> oh do the soldiers pick up the entire chest? 16:45 <@luxidream> yeah lmao 16:45 <@Tone> haha 16:45 <@luxidream> apparently bhaak fixed it 16:46 I killed all soldiers but there is no wand around. I am not sure when I started the game. 16:47 <@Tone> That was probably going on like 5 or 6 weeks ago 16:48 <@riker> albert: check any chests they dropped? 16:48 I checked scoreboard.cd.cm. I started the game after 2020-03-27 16:49 <@luxidream> I would check for bhaak's commit but I'm getting a 504 whenever I try to view nethack on github lol 16:49 Yepp, already checked all chests. Will do another round of searching the whole level. Is it possible thas something carried the box and fell down a trapdoor or into the moat? 16:49 <@riker> did you use the drawbridge much? 16:50 <@riker> and my advice would be to gather all the chests into a pile in the corner once you check them or something 16:50 Nope. Went in from behind. Blew the drawbridge with force bolt afterwards. 16:51 <@luxidream> I think they pulled aosdict's change where the soldiers no longer fall into the trapdoors 16:51 I just blew up my bag of holding on Medusa level. Therefore I really would appreciate some wishes. 16:52 <@luxidream> rip github rn :frowning: 16:52 <@luxidream> apparently not just me 16:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:3378 16:52 you can still pull repos 16:52 think it's just the web ui that's down 16:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3381 16:56 Bingo! Just found a box with a silver wand in a pile of armor, weapons and corpses. 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of walking shoes entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:19367 16:58 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59 -!- goduck777 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00 -!- goduck777 has joined #hardfought 17:02 [hdf-us] [sp] Delraven (Tou Dwa Fem Neu), 4924 points, T:4800, killed by a blast of frost 17:02 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 14 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:3524 17:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3691 17:05 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:08 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:09 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) wished for "holy fixed blessed diluted extinguished very locked +5 thoroughly dragonhide t-shirt of searching named always check between the cushions", on T:25960 17:11 wait what materials can t-shirts actually be 17:14 in evil, they can be dragonhide 17:14 anything that can be cloth or leather can be dragonhide 17:15 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 561 points, T:1206, exterminated by a skeletal pirate called zor, while praying 17:18 that's pretty great 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) wished for "historic thoroughly uncursed poisoned burning very fixed magic marker named mean streak by sanford, prop. of banksy", on T:25983 17:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:25 sigh, stood on a magic trap and became invisibl 17:26 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3117 points, T:4180, murdered by an ape 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:20348 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:13705 17:35 Haven't played nethack in a couple months i think? Went to play EH and remembered that my giant monk has the amulet lol 17:35 hah 17:35 i'm so rusty though. going to get killed on the planes 17:35 nah, what could go wrong 17:35 might have to roll another character and play a little first 17:36 just quickly ascend on hdf-au as practice 17:37 the last time I was strangled on the water plane, but I don't think that can happen to giants. But can the ; monsters still drown me? 17:37 yeah 17:37 will 2 blessed geno scrolls get rid of them when i get there? 17:38 no 17:38 well maybe 17:38 need 3 to be sure 17:38 oh ok 17:38 do they fear the mighty bugle and scare monster? 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:20657 17:38 should 17:38 i dont think eels are mindless 17:39 i'm starting to recall what happened. I remember rodney stealing the amulet and double trouble nonsense 17:41 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:42 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:49 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:00 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 448 points, T:1086, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:05 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:14 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:3139 18:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] arnibald (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:40, on T:67026 18:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] arnibald (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67029 18:20 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] arnibald (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:67218 18:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] arnibald (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:50, on T:67230 18:34 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 18:36 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had a long sword entrusted to her by Set, on T:26501 18:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:26611 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:340 18:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7825 18:55 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 18:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:7830 18:55 Anyone know whatthe largest possible level size is 18:57 in bytes? 18:57 in width x height 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:852 18:59 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by naming Sting, on T:6169 18:59 well if you adjust ROWNO and COLNO, you can make them quite big 18:59 probably LarienTelrunya is the person to ask on account of BIGslex 19:00 127x127 unless you do some juju magic (even with slex's char-to-int redefinition I still get errors if I try to make it bigger) 19:00 <{Demo}> I think he is just asking for ROWNO and COLNO 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1166 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:28449 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1144 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) genocided mind flayers, on T:26825 19:07 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 19:07 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:26850 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 442 points, T:1281, killed by a gnome lord 19:18 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Fai Car Fem Neu), 45 points, T:115, killed by a monster (hobbit reveller) 19:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Mys Fel Fem Neu), 4 points, T:43, killed by a poisoned blast 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:656 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:877 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1032 points, T:2065, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1365 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1562 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1686 19:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:58 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:59 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Val Dwa Nbn Law), 4 points, T:96, killed by a scroll of earth 19:59 note to self: don't let a pet arch-lich hang around an umber hulk 20:00 bro shattered half the waters i just diluted 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a black dragon, on T:29942 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:252 20:01 oh nice and he cursed my mjollnir 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) became Camaxtli's Envoy of Balance, on T:35740 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:29951 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29957 20:03 augh and just before i was about to bless some water mannnn 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:21657 20:08 Does a confused pet arch-lich keep warping to you? 20:08 seems like it yes 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:27488 20:20 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 707 points, T:1810, killed by an iguana 20:24 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18290 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:618 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1062 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 419 points, T:1433, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:766 20:48 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 5130 points, T:8225, killed by a killer bee 20:50 green slimes are terrifying 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:37215 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 723 points, T:2266, killed by a bolt of fire 20:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:59 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:12 [hdf-us] [slex] Geewoody (Cyb Lol Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by trying to circumvent an instadeath via hangup cheating 21:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:23 YANI: a b/j/P class monster (probably P) which moves quickly and splits whenever it takes damage, from any source. Its main strategy is trying to split into as many clones as possible, all of which have the same attack stats as the original. 21:27 YASI: If you get punished and your god really hates you, they'll saddle you with a heavy gold ball instead of an iron one. It won't even rust! 21:31 how is that worse? 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] Helios (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 318 points, T:576, killed by a small mimic 21:31 <@riker> can't get eaten by a rust monster, weighs a lot more 21:32 oh rust monster 21:32 but it's not "a 2ft iron ball" 21:32 so the relative atomic wieghts don't really affect burden 21:32 they're both just "heavy" 21:33 <@luxidream> Gold is more than twice as dense? 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1791 21:38 luxidream: what weighs more: 200lbs of iron or 200lbs of gold? 21:38 the ball is not defined by a volume, it's defined as "heavy" 21:39 so there's no reason to assume changing the material would change the weight instead of the volume, in fact a better argument is that the gold ball would simply be smaller (but still "heavy") 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 679 points, T:2172, killed by a giant ant 21:40 aosdict: Brogue has that monster. It's called a pink jelly. Same speed as the player, starts with a ton of hitpoints, splits every time it is hit, starts generating on dungeon level 2 or 3. 21:41 If you try to fight one in an open area, you die. 21:41 (Unless you have some advantage you didn't start the game with, such as an axe.) 21:43 YASI: heavy uranium ball. It's like a heavy iron ball, except you also take radiation exposure from it. 21:44 okay, now that's funny. 21:44 slowly lose str and con 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] Helios (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 704 points, T:1198, killed by a xan 21:45 Uranium is _almost_ as dense as gold. 21:45 And significantly more abundant. 21:46 jonadab: I was aware of pink jellies but wasn't aware I was describing them that clearly. 21:47 I just knew they were like the Brogue equivalent of blood puddings. 21:47 I like them. They're _interesting_. Though Brogue does an especially good job of giving you a bajillion different ways to counter them. 21:48 Anyway, a fair nethack implementation of this YANI would have a relatively high difficulty for them (maybe going as far as to make them super mega scary and powerful and spiking the difficulty high enough that they'll probably only show up in Gehennom) 21:50 Pink jellies are trivial if you have, among other things, a spear-type weapon, an axe-type weapon, a weapon that hits hard, a staff of lightning, a staff of firebolt, a dead-end to stand in so only one of them can fight you at a time, or the opportunity to lure them onto any of the several traps that will hurt them all at once. 21:51 And one can be defeated simply by fighting it in a corridor, as long as there are no other monsters around. 21:52 But if they catch you in an open area when you only have starting equipment, you've got a problem. 22:00 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32597 22:11 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:26365 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:26392 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26393 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:780 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:869 22:16 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 22:19 Apparently Nalzok gated Yeenoghu 22:19 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 22:20 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the ghost of hyperion67, the former Digger, on T:3068 22:20 Didn't account for quest nemesis & gating demons 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:43018 22:20 Speaking of & 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43019 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:33298 22:22 FIQ: searching in FIQhack searches the whole room? everything in LOS? 22:22 doors are appearing quite far from my character 22:23 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the ghost of hyperion67, the former Investigator, on T:3167 22:26 [hdf-us] [fh] vexana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 29396 points, T:1480, killed by an invisible gnome lady 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Grouchy's ghost, the former Magician, on T:21845 22:29 <@Suzune Takada> woops 22:29 <@Suzune Takada> I forgot I'm orc and it's orctown 22:29 <@Suzune Takada> juiblex and yeenoghu 😦 22:32 anyone able to answer a SpliceHack monk #technique question (beside AntiGulp)? 22:32 huh, i don't usually get to medusa's level without some form of levitation 22:32 <@riker> bouquet: I have spare time to look at the sourec? 22:33 well, I guess I could do that, too... 22:33 but this is easier :) 22:33 Sometimes you just don't find it though 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1834 22:34 Did she change the chained blitz directions to strictly orthogonals with no diagonals? Looks that way, but I wanted to be sure. 22:34 <@Suzune Takada> oops 22:34 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 7256 points, T:3861, killed by a mumak 22:35 this comes up upon starting the chained blitz: https://i.imgur.com/ocvBTpf.png 22:36 wiki says chi strike is "L + LD + D + R -- L + LD + D + RD + R", this dialog appears to say it's just "L + L + D + D + R"... 22:37 or is the differentiation between moves missing and it's still a LD not L + D? 22:37 IIRC, LD is the same as L -> D 22:37 <@riker> hm I don't see that change in commit history bouqet 22:38 testing in wizmode is a pain unless someone can tell me how to reset #technique timers :P 22:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:38 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1993 22:40 <@Suzune Takada> if I'm orc, orctown isn't so good 22:40 <@Suzune Takada> just summoning peaceful yeenoghu and juiblex in altar 22:41 high five your orc bros 22:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:42 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 22:44 Nice landing. 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32418 22:46 <@Suzune Takada> grimtooth in unnethack is awesome 22:46 <@Suzune Takada> unlike vanilla 22:47 Mm 22:48 <@Suzune Takada> just the weakened version of serpent's tongue 22:48 <@Suzune Takada> permanent poisoned dagger 22:48 Peaceful Yeenoghu + Juiblex = two less demons to fight later 22:49 You're chaotic so same-race sacrifice isn't the hazard it is for others 22:52 <@Suzune Takada> I think dnh is more different from vanilla than slem 22:54 <@riker> very much so 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Crom, on T:22593 23:01 Green slem 23:02 The green slem touches you! You don't feel very balanced. 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:45072 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:36933 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36935 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:33151 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:33152 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Sam Hum Fem Law), 13579 points, T:9491, quit 23:16 <@Suzune Takada> early dangerous monster in variants: locust in unh? 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:33364 23:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:27 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 23:27 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:36 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32039 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:46767 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "ring of levitation", on T:46798 23:46 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 444 points, T:1284, killed by a giant cockroach 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:47755