00:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Starlock (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 42 points, T:213, poisoned by a little dart
00:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:886
00:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Ticonderoga #2", on T:89826
00:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:37694
00:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1138
00:14 <Andrio> Snakes! I hate snakes!
00:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:38367
00:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for her first artifact, on T:38368
00:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed Master Key of Thievery", on T:38368
00:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:12, on T:90464
00:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:38388
00:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:90835
00:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on the Plane of Earth, on T:90837
00:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class z, on T:91057
00:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:91097
00:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:91277
00:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:91335
00:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:91336
00:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:91373
00:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:91408
00:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:91438
00:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:91457
00:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3664850 points, T:91466, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/xnethack/dumplog/1585279878.xnh.html
00:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3393
00:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3673
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01:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:5467
01:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2830 points, T:5859, killed by a dwarf lord
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01:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:43306
01:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:43308
01:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43309
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01:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2232
01:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:2333
01:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2632
01:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:44940
01:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:46249
01:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:46477
02:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:46483
02:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:46484
02:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:46485
02:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5347 points, T:4459, poisoned by a giant spider
02:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:46490
02:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:46490
02:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:46676
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02:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:49360
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03:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:51484
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03:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 2109 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:53538
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03:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1235 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:54377
03:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:54747
03:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54748
03:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:55292
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03:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:56649
04:04 <amateurhour> did you settle on doing healer next then microlance? how're you finding it?
04:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57520
04:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:57533
04:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:57733
04:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:57884
04:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:57885
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04:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:59577
04:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:59580
04:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:59857
04:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:59886
04:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:59913
04:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2917444 points, T:59923, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MHL/nethack/dumplog/1585525476.nh.html
04:47 <Umbire> Well done.
04:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5406
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06:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Val Hum Fem Law), 565 points, T:2474, killed by a kitten, while fainted from lack of food
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07:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 206 points, T:468, killed by a gecko
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07:43 <K2> morning
07:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9014
07:54 <K2> mobileuser \o/
07:54 <K2> congrats!!
07:54 <mobileuser> I ASCENDED EVILHACK MWAHAHAHAHA
07:54 <mobileuser> thanks :-)
07:55 <Tangles> congrats mobileuser! Evilhack is no picnic! :)
07:55 <K2> :)
07:55 * K2 creates a picnic for evilhack
07:55 <mobileuser> glad the helm of oppo worked, didn't want to have to go to the third altar
07:57 <nabru> Congrats! :) 
07:57 <mobileuser> that was super fun!!!
07:58 <Umbire> GG dude.
07:58 <Umbire> Now try it *without* the helmet.
07:58 <Umbire> :B
07:58 <mobileuser> yeah... ;-)
07:58 <mobileuser> I didn't rate my chances of reaching the third altar
07:59 <mobileuser> these guys take your hitpointslike candy
08:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:239
08:03 <K2> mobileuser you got lucky, sometimes your deity will notice if you try HoOA shenanigans :)
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08:04 <mobileuser> yeah, I saw that in the wiki (or the changelog?), but I felt I had to take that chance :-)
08:04 <mobileuser> very evil btw ;-)
08:05 <K2> thanks :)
08:08 <mobileuser> Haha, I see I have the lowest ascension score in the evilhack rankings, even some games without ascension that score higher
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08:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:56063
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08:15 <K2> mobileuser dont worry about score
08:15 <K2> ascending is what counts
08:16 <LarienTelrunya> EPI: you can only ascend if you have a certain amount of score or higher. Because we already have an arbitrary barrier for entering the quest, why not make an arbitrary barrier for being allowed to ascend too? :P
08:17 <LarienTelrunya> "Thoth thunders: 'Thou aren't worthy, mortal!' Your sacrifice of the Amulet of Yendor is refused!"
08:17 <K2> ^ no one would want to play if that were a Thing™
08:18 <K2> heh
08:18 <LarienTelrunya> yeah that's why it's an EPI
08:18 <{Demo}> man I forgot how funny that spl bug was with the dude yoinking the amulet and instascending
08:18 <{Demo}> like imagine what that looked like going down from his pov
08:19 <LarienTelrunya> huh? you mean the bug where you ascend by hitting < upon game start?
08:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) genocided class m, on T:56804
08:20 <{Demo}> that one was also funny
08:20 <{Demo}> are those on any hall of fame yet?
08:20 <{Demo}> if so where is the hall of fame?
08:20 <LarienTelrunya> the "press < to ascend" one is
08:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:56807
08:25 <LarienTelrunya> what, since when is the "amulet delivery service" a hall of fame bug??? that's very clearly how the game is supposed to be played :P
08:26 <LarienTelrunya> the demon lord is covetous, the high priest has the item that the demon lord covets, so of course the demon lord will try to get it
08:27 <{Demo}> yeah I agree
08:29 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> spl demon princes seems to be more difficult than vanilla
08:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2169
08:31 <Andrio> Covetous monsters probably shouldn't warp back to you if they've stolen the Amulet of Yendor. The Wizard doesn't.
08:32 <aosdict> LarienTelrunya: Notably that isn't a guaranteed 1-turn ascension. You can spawn off the upstairs due to jackals or grid bugs or whatever occupying the spot.
08:32 <Andrio> I don't think I've ever had that happen there
08:32 <LarienTelrunya> aosdict: ah yeah that happens rarely
08:33 <{Demo}> one time on evilhack I spawned surrounded by lava
08:33 <{Demo}> I think that is fixed now
08:34 <Andrio> That is evil.
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08:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) averted death, on T:58045
08:38 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> wow
08:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:58100
08:40 <LarienTelrunya> in slex it's also possible to spawn surrounded by lava, but slex gives the player scrolls and techniques that can be used to get away :)
08:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Juiblex, on T:58262
08:41 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> yay
08:42 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> daughter of Juiblex?
08:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:59083
08:53 <dk657> i had a nightmare where i ran into demogorgon too early
08:54 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> Mephisto? new demon prince?
08:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible Mephisto, on T:59457
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09:00 <bhaak> Tangles: as you know, corpsenm is quite overloaded
09:00 <Beholder> bhaak: Message from Tangles at 2020-03-31 19:50 EDT: Looks like unnethack crashes if you zap undead turning at a saddle that was in use when its user died. https://0x0.st/iMJH.txt
09:01 <bhaak> Tangles: I suspect leashmon was not correctly reset.
09:07 <{Demo}> un crashes are always a cool find
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09:16 <bhaak> the backtrace looks strange though. what's the bag of holding doing there?
09:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3726
09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4077
09:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4311
09:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6114 points, T:4693, killed by an orc-captain called Ogthosaiakh of Haiaakh-og
09:36 <K2> ^ same surname as my neighbor
09:39 <Tangles> bhaak: Yeah I am aware of maybe a small fraction of the overloading of corpsenm :)
09:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:406
09:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:576
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09:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:63976
09:53 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> yay
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10:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3558
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10:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) destroyed Alucard, on T:65684
10:16 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> Alucard... from Castlevania?
10:16 <AntiGulp> maybe
10:16 * AntiGulp does love castlevania
10:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1256
10:17 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> in fact, alucard is the flipped name of dracula
10:17 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> but alucard in castlevania is too famous
10:18 <AntiGulp> Yeah.
10:18 <AntiGulp> There’s a few different stories in which Alucard and Dracula are related in some way, so I left it ambiguous in splice
10:18 <Tangles> bleh
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10:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1235 points, T:3686, murdered by an enormous rat
10:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1650
10:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1610
10:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:66107
10:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:66108
10:24 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> yay
10:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1968
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10:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:2767
10:31 <amateurhour> nice one Suzune Takada, good luck!
10:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2401
10:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:2476
10:33 <Umbire>  Gogogo Suzune
10:33 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> finding wizard tower
10:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:2604
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10:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3353
10:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:11765
10:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had a javelin entrusted to her by Set, on T:16967
10:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:12093
10:58 <hothraxxa> wtf? a javelin
10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:69368
10:59 <{Demo}> wow be more grateful your god really cares about you
10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:69370
10:59 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> yay
10:59 <hothraxxa> set was pissed with me for a long time. i finally mollified him and this is how he repays me
10:59 <{Demo}> throw it back at him lol
11:00 <hothraxxa> i suppose all weapons should be ranged in this era of the coronavirus
11:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 7011 points, T:4287, killed by a gnome king
11:00 <{Demo}> need good distancing between u and monsters
11:00 <{Demo}> if u don't wanna get TERMILL
11:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:69906
11:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) made her first wish - "thoroughly blessed empty unlit locked historic greased rotproof +5 silver dragon scale mail named upon reflection i really need this", on T:17107
11:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 678 points, T:2235, killed by a giant mosquito
11:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) woke the rulers of Gehennom by performing the invocation, on T:70709
11:20 <K2> lol hothraxxa
11:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32688
11:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:70874
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11:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 336 points, T:985, sent to the grave by a brown mold
11:33 <K2> damn you work. why you gotta be all 'hahah i'm monday'
11:33 <K2> let me do nethacky things
11:34 <amateurhour> what does that mean? lol
11:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:71371
11:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:71374
11:36 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> yay
11:36 <amateurhour> gogogogogogo
11:38 <K2> amateurhour heh
11:38 <FIQ> so I donated to wikipedia last year because I use it all the ime and figured it was fair enough if they asked nicely
11:39 <K2> it means the craziness we usually experience in IT here on monday's is happening today
11:39 <FIQ> since then I've constantly been flooded with requests to do more
11:39 <FIQ> never doing it again
11:39 <FIQ> *time
11:39 <K2> FIQ give me money kthx
11:39 <K2> i'll take euro's
11:39 <K2> or teh bitcoiz
11:39 <amateurhour> it's like that with many charities as well unfortunately
11:39 <K2> bitcoinz
11:40 <amateurhour> like I donated to an alzheimers one after my grandma died
11:40 <{Demo}> im playing gnollhack rn and honestly i think it has some interesting things
11:40 <FIQ> K2: I do not use you all the time
11:40 <K2> but you want to
11:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:33828
11:40 <amateurhour> constantly barraged with requests for money after that
11:40 <FIQ> I do not, sorry
11:40 <K2> you do
11:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Zuggotomoy, on T:71516
11:40 * K2 does the jedi mind trick thing with his hand
11:40 <amateurhour> {Demo}: I'm just about to try it too, just figuring out how to get keybindings the way I like
11:41 <FIQ> amateurhour: I donated once to another thing as a birthday present to my mother because I was unable to go and actually buy something at the time (she likes that kind of thing)
11:41 <FIQ> while I occasionally get updates about it every few months, they never actually go and ask for more
11:41 <FIQ> far better experience than wikipedia IMO
11:41 <K2> i dont ever give to charities or donations. more often than not that money goes for something other than what it's supposed to be intended for
11:42 <K2> fuckin scams most of 'em
11:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible Baphomet, on T:71657
11:42 <{Demo}> it had a crazy cool animation that looked like the game was bugging out
11:43 <amateurhour> it's a bit messy listing all the weights on the pickup screen
11:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Buer, on T:71737
11:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 7 points, T:243, killed by trying to drink lava
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11:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7627
11:45 <{Demo}> it definitely takes some getting used to
11:45 <amateurhour> sometimes it seems to think I'm pressing ctrl when I'm not
11:45 <amateurhour> oh esc seems to toggle ctrl
11:45 <amateurhour> that's odd
11:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7668
11:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Dispater, on T:71889
11:46 <rld> <@luxidream> esc is how you get out of multiline messages and inventory
11:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Geryon, on T:71892
11:46 <rld> <@luxidream> bad design choice?
11:46 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> demon princes??
11:47 <FIQ> amateurhour: you mean alt? that's 3.6 behaviour
11:47 <FIQ> altmeta
11:47 <amateurhour> I have never once pressed the alt key
11:48 <amateurhour> oh, is it a config option or something
11:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:34231
11:49 <amateurhour> ah I see what you're saying FIQ, yeah esc toggles alt
11:50 <amateurhour> or something
11:50 <amateurhour> toggles something
11:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a leather golem, on T:12160
11:52 <aosdict> gnollhack has had a rocky relationship with alt
11:53 <aosdict> when it first came out they couldn't conceive of the idea that not everyone was playing on windows with the same keyboard
11:55 <amateurhour> the message list is in reverse order
11:56 <amateurhour> when you farlook the ground in a garden it refers to it as 'a grass'
11:56 <amateurhour> which I am choosing to believe means there's a single blade of grass there :)
11:57 <FIQ> haha
11:57 <FIQ> is this on server?
11:59 <K2> is this gnollhack?
11:59 * aosdict quickly checks xnethack to make sure that it doesn't describe grass as "a grass"
12:00 * LarienTelrunya checks slex too, farlooking just says "grass"
12:00 <aosdict> weird, it describes it as "grass" on farlook hover-over, but "a grass" when you hit . on farlook
12:00 <LarienTelrunya> now we just need Chris, whose variant also has grass
12:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:73087
12:01 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> demon princes instead of following wizard?
12:02 <amateurhour> haha check your variants :P
12:02 <{Demo}> ndnh had grass before dnh
12:02 <{Demo}> ndnh stole xnhs
12:02 <bhaak> there are variants that have mardi gras?
12:03 <K2> grass or 'grass' ?
12:04 <amateurhour> 1v1 vs a hyena on normal difficulty and I died, hm
12:06 <hothraxxa> You hear some noises in the distance.  The mountain centaur zaps a short wand! The mountain centaur makes a wish for a hexagonal amulet!
12:07 <hothraxxa> aw shit
12:07 <hothraxxa> random wand but it'll be useless
12:07 <hothraxxa> i can't even tell which centaur has it
12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) averted death, on T:73703
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12:13 <amateurhour> can't use virus to edit config, that's the worst thing so far
12:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Kostchtchie, on T:73845
12:16 <amateurhour> there's quite a few grammar issues 'Your limbs are starting move a bit.'
12:17 <{Demo}> yeah a lot of the grammar is weird
12:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Malcanthet, on T:74348
12:19 <K2> evilhack 0.5.0 out by this weekend - that's my goal
12:19 <K2> not gonna rush it, if it tkaes longer that's ok. but that's my goal
12:19 <K2> *takes
12:19 <amateurhour> nice one
12:19 <K2> the optional side branch is coming along nicely so far
12:21 <K2> making maps and getting it right is... tedious
12:23 <bug_sniper> microlance, do you have a story to tell?
12:23 <hothraxxa> so the hexagonal amulet that mountain centaur wished for... was cursed. 
12:23 <hothraxxa> lifesaving
12:24 <{Demo}> haha, dumbass, must have had negative luck
12:24 <K2> rofl
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12:24 <{Demo}> i've seen centaurs do some dumb shit
12:24 <hothraxxa> hey
12:24 <Beholder> Hello hothraxxa, Welcome to #hardfought
12:24 <hothraxxa> i'm a centaur
12:24 <rld> <@microlance> i saw the furnaces and i just had to take a sip
12:24 <{Demo}> one time in fh i watched one keep zapping digigng at the ground nearly drowning itself in water until it backed itself into the corner and it did
12:25 <hothraxxa> mind you i've done a lot of dumb stuff in this game
12:25 <rld> <@bugsniper> yeah, I had to take a dip too on one of my first games, mostly to test whether there's a warning
12:26 <aosdict> hothraxxa: I guess Hypothetically Optimal Man would immediately name each monster the moment they come in sight to avoid this circumstance of not knowing which one used an item.
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12:26 <aosdict> (actually I think bots do do that)
12:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) entered the Planes, on T:74438
12:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:74441
12:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:74461
12:30 <amateurhour> {Demo}: how is gnollhack going?
12:31 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> ?
12:31 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> new elemental plane?
12:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3595
12:34 <K2> splicehack had a major planes overhaul
12:34 <K2> 9 levels total i think
12:34 <K2> or 7
12:34 <K2> i cant remember exactly
12:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3652
12:34 <aosdict> 7 
12:35 <aosdict> it added three
12:35 <{Demo}> going very well
12:41 <rld> <@malor> Is gnollhack on hardfought again?
12:42 <{Demo}> no they are hosting their own server
12:42 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> city of brass?
12:42 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> (I thought mtg)
12:43 <K2> so {Demo} saying 'very well' and me knowing {Demo}...
12:43 <{Demo}> LOL
12:43 <K2> does that mean you've found and are exploiting all sorts of bugs 'very well'?
12:43 <K2> :)
12:44 <{Demo}> nope
12:44 <{Demo}> playing a very easy mode valkyrie dwarf
12:44 <{Demo}> found an aols and am casting spells
12:44 <Umbire> casting as valk dwarf
12:44 <Umbire> Jebaited
12:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4141
12:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Envy, on T:74901
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12:51 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> finally astral plane
12:53 <bouquet> go go go!
12:53 <bouquet> beware of player monsters that will steal the Amulet.
12:54 <bouquet> Some jerk stole it from me on Astral and in the same turn teleported to an altar and offered it to their deity causing me to lose the game.
12:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:10526
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:5693
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Death, on T:75018
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12:59 <LarienTelrunya> you can teleport on astral now?
13:00 <AntiGulp> Let’s go suzunetakada
13:00 <AntiGulp> LarienTelrunya: It was an unfortunate, hall-of-fame-worthy bug.
13:00 <AntiGulp> It still exists, but only for monk player monsters. Watch out for those.
13:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6114
13:02 <AntiGulp> Oof, they’re tangling with Pestilence while surrounded
13:03 <bouquet> that was an hillarious bug. So glad I got to experience it. Laughed for hours.
13:04 <AntiGulp> I’m so sorry
13:04 <AntiGulp> i count it as winning the game, for the record
13:05 <bouquet> Heh. Totally didn't care.  If it was my first ascension I might have been struck comatose by the shock.
13:06 <AntiGulp> This astral fight is terrifying
13:06 <bouquet> I really enjoy splice. I played Slash'em a ton before I settled into vanilla. It's got the Slash'em feel with the modern bells and whistles that I like.
13:06 <AntiGulp> Or maybe it’s that I’m listening to the Nier soundtrack while watching it
13:06 <bouquet> I'm doing yoga while watching.
13:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:314
13:07 <bouquet> quarantine makes for odd behaviors I guess
13:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:22744
13:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:575
13:08 <AntiGulp> Thanks, bouquet! I played SLASH’EM a lot growing up and really love it, so I’ve been trying to recapture a similar mood while keeping things more balanced and reigned in.
13:08 <AntiGulp> Next version is going to be awesome
13:09 <bouquet> so long as it's not evil :)  
13:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:10734
13:09 <bouquet> is there a changelog?
13:09 <K2> evil = good
13:09 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> oops wrong altar again
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13:10 <AntiGulp> bouquet: https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/blob/development/Changelog
13:10 <AntiGulp> It’s only slightly evil
13:12 <bouquet> "The technique menu can be opened with '!' for quick access" = Awesome!
13:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 579 points, T:1627, killed by a rock mole
13:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1340 points, T:2544, cut down by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food
13:13 * Umbire prays for Suzune
13:13 <AntiGulp> Yeah this astral does not look fun
13:13 <Umbire> I'm not even watching, just the lack of developments has me anxious
13:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:404
13:14 <AntiGulp> The first two altars were both wrong, and they got in a very extended melee with pestilence while surrounded
13:14 <K2> did i just see a walrus on astral?
13:14 <AntiGulp> All walruses go to heaven
13:14 <K2> lol
13:14 <rld> <@riker> wandered from the plane of water?
13:15 <K2> the grand your...
13:15 <AntiGulp> bouquet: Technique database lookup and shortcutting is probably my favorite feature. It should make them a lot more accessible for new players, and reduce the need to look at the wiki.
13:15 <K2> blah
13:15 <K2> grand tour
13:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:834
13:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Famine, on T:75152
13:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] picaresquieu (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 349 points, T:1040, killed by a giant bat
13:24 <AntiGulp> They finally made it and the high priest has decided that it’s going to sit on the altar and refuse to move lol
13:24 <bouquet> whew
13:24 <AntiGulp> Congratulations @Suzune Takada!!!
13:24 <bouquet> GG
13:24 <K2> congrats!
13:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3264
13:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law), 5090014 points, T:75169, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/SuzuneTakada/splicehack/dumplog/1585563958.splice.html
13:25 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> finally
13:25 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> thanks
13:25 <K2> \o/
13:25 <rld> <@riker> grats
13:25 <AntiGulp> Oh my god, number 1 on the high score list too!
13:25 <bouquet> wow, 5M points!
13:25 <AntiGulp> > 106 uncursed obsidian stones
13:26 <bouquet> I'm kind of a point slut, myself.
13:26 <aosdict> saving them for dnh perhaps
13:26 <rld> <@riker> tarmunora tried a gem whoring run once in dnethack, didn't go as well lol
13:26 <AntiGulp> Wait, 57 uncursed rubies named the bloody tear? 
13:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] picaresquieu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:419
13:27 <rld> <@riker> > 57 uncursed rubies named The Bloody Tear  is there a ruby named that and the rest stacked?
13:27 <rld> <@riker> gives me slex fake arti vibes
13:27 <LarienTelrunya> @Suzune Takada: Ransū jenerētā o shōsan shite kudasai. Misshon de seikō suru koto ga dekimashita.
13:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] picaresquieu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 128 points, T:430, killed by a small mimic
13:27 <LarienTelrunya> @riker: that slex bug has been squashed looooong ago lol, you've probably not played for months? :D
13:28 <rld> <@riker> yep
13:28 <rld> <@riker> slex just isn't that fun :p
13:28 <LarienTelrunya> lol
13:28 <Umbire> Well done Suzune!
13:28 <Umbire> I'm so proud of how well you've developed as a player
13:28 * bouquet high fives Suzune
13:29 <rld> <@riker> amy, what does that japanese mean?
13:29 <LarienTelrunya> means "praise the random number generator, for it allowed you to succeed in your mission!"
13:29 <rld> <@riker> lol
13:29 <rld> <@riker> hm also antigulp is it worth reporting to you that the tab title for spl html dumplogs say "NetHack 0.7.0"?
13:29 <rld> <@riker> not splicehack 0.7?
13:29 <AntiGulp> Yup, thanks riker!
13:30 <rld> <@riker> np
13:30 <AntiGulp> Adding it to my bug list, although I think I might have fixed that one in dev
13:30 <rld> <@riker> glad to help fix such a horrible bug
13:30 <AntiGulp> Hey, every little bit counts :)
13:30 <AntiGulp> and byte
13:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6 points, T:118, sent to the next life by a fox
13:31 <aosdict> "Every little byte counts" should perhaps be a false rumor
13:32 <AntiGulp> I’ve always enjoyed that in the roguelike Red Rogue, praying at an altar yields the message “You pray to RNG, God of Chaos”
13:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5260
13:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5277
13:33 <rld> <@Suzune Takada> I'll try other role or other variant in next time
13:34 <rld> <@riker> play dnethack next :D
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13:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] picaresquieu (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1930
13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 261 points, T:697, killed by a goblin
13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] picaresquieu (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 429 points, T:2004, killed by a dwarf
13:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:23537
13:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:23538
13:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 37785 points, T:12810, killed by an elf-lord
13:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Starlock (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 139 points, T:666, killed by a coyote
13:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7062
13:51 <amateurhour> monks in gnollhack seem rather annoying to play
13:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] picaresquieu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 289 points, T:1040, killed by a purple worm
13:51 <amateurhour> they seem much weaker right at the start, start with higher ac than vanilla
13:51 <amateurhour> don't get poison resistance at level 3
13:51 <hothraxxa> i just killed a dwarvish lieutenant who turned out to be carrying TWO cockatrice corpses
13:52 <amateurhour> lucky escape there
13:52 <hothraxxa> it's not bones and i have no idea where he got them. when i arrived on the level i checked and there were no cockatrice
13:52 <hothraxxa> yeah, esp since i did not know he had them
13:52 <amateurhour> you have to carry two, what if someone bullwhips the first out of your hand?
13:52 <amateurhour> think tactically
13:53 <hothraxxa> it scares me that monsters can generate with them, but i can't think how he got them otherwise
13:53 * hothraxxa taps k2
13:54 <hothraxxa> ahhhh nm
13:54 <hothraxxa> it IS bones
13:54 <hothraxxa> You see here a statue of a valkyrie named elenmirie.
13:54 * K2 looks up, sees all is well, then goes back to making evilhack more evil
13:54 <hothraxxa> i remember now when this happened
13:55 <hothraxxa> lucky for me that lieutenant stopped wielding them
13:55 <hothraxxa> turns out there's a lot of soldier statues here
13:56 <hothraxxa> i wonder what goodies they hold
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14:01 <hackedhead> so what do intrepid players do if they reach medusa without MR still?
14:02 <amateurhour> in vanilla?
14:02 <hothraxxa> foo. it's a statuary 
14:02 <rld> <@riker> drawbridge spam?
14:02 <hackedhead> yes, NH4 actually, but basically 343
14:02 <amateurhour> if I've geno'd liches I just carry on without it till the castle or the quest
14:02 <hackedhead> I've got lev and water walking
14:02 <hackedhead> I guess I could do the quest
14:02 <hackedhead> I have some gain level
14:03 <rld> <@riker> what role?
14:03 <hackedhead> rogue
14:03 <hackedhead> so no MR from the QA
14:03 <hackedhead> but maybe I'll find some in the quest
14:03 <hackedhead> or at least magical armor to polypile
14:03 <hothraxxa> i'm with amateurhour 
14:03 <hackedhead> I guess that's a thing I could do
14:04 <hothraxxa> for one thing, there could be mr at the castle
14:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Starlock (Kni Hum Mal Law), 289 points, T:912, killed by a red mold
14:04 <hackedhead> right.
14:04 <hackedhead> but I'm also a little concerned to face the castle without MR
14:04 <amateurhour> have you geno'd liches?
14:04 <hothraxxa> if you're still that low level, evem liches aren't a threat
14:04 <hackedhead> I tend to not survive doing that
14:04 <rld> <@riker> drawbridge spam?
14:04 <hackedhead> I have not geno'd anything
14:04 <hackedhead> I am ... XL12
14:04 <hothraxxa> except, you know, chameleon liches
14:04 <hackedhead> I have some !oGL on hand
14:05 <hothraxxa> but not likely to see one of those at the castl
14:05 <hackedhead> can chameleon's SS into geno'd races?
14:05 <hackedhead> or shapeshifters in general?
14:05 <hothraxxa> not as far as i know
14:05 <hackedhead> oh, nevermind, I see what you meant
14:06 <hothraxxa> anyway it's nh4. i'd definitely do the castle 
14:06 <hothraxxa> assuming you have reflection
14:06 <hackedhead> I might get some scales off this silver dragon at medusa's island to replace my "oR
14:06 <hackedhead> (I do)
14:06 <hackedhead> but still missing ?oRC and ?oEA
14:06 <hackedhead> I even have a marker
14:06 <hothraxxa> i'd hope for a gray dragon myself
14:07 <hackedhead> but this game has been stingy about a couple things I rely on a lot
14:07 <hackedhead> hothraxxa: I've already _seen_ a silver dragon at medusa's
14:07 <hackedhead> so it's not a hope
14:07 <hackedhead> but then I could wear my "oLS with scales for reflection
14:07 <hackedhead> if still lakcing MR
14:07 <hothraxxa> yes but wouldn't you rather have gdsm? i know i would, as a rogue
14:08 <hackedhead> i mean, yes. but I'd also rather have a WoW on DL2
14:08 <hackedhead> I actually just melee'd a green dragon a few DLs ago
14:08 <hackedhead> I was surprised.
14:09 <hackedhead> to come out relatively unscatched.
14:09 <hackedhead> unscathed*
14:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 7303 points, T:7730, killed by a white unicorn
14:11 <amateurhour> a nurse spawned in the mines in gnollhack
14:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3605
14:12 <amateurhour> think I might be done with gnollhack for now, monks blow
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14:13 <hothraxxa> well hello stormbringer
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14:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu), 1433045 points, T:103917, quit
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11849
14:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4724
14:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:335
14:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:380
14:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 480 points, T:481, killed by a gnome
14:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 29 points, T:429, killed by a fox called Nick Wilde
14:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1078 points, T:5207, killed by a wooden orcish arrow
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14:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10387
14:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4924
14:45 -!- moony is now known as ferrisier-ball
14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Hum Fem Law), 176 points, T:743, killed by an acidic corpse
14:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 44184 points, T:18742, killed by a zruty
14:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed zoya's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:5171
14:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] arnibald (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof greased +2 T-shirt", on T:62125
14:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:46038
14:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] arnibald (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:62169
14:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:46048
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15:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products (goblin) for the first time, on T:3538
15:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12087
15:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 382 points, T:4442, taken down by a coyote
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15:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:11209
15:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11639
15:55 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire
16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:16484
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16:07 <Bliss56> The IRC links on the hardfought website are not connecting.
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16:16 <K2> Bliss56 thanks
16:16 <K2> its not for me either
16:16 <K2> blah damn you kiwi people
16:16 <K2> it didnt work for the longest time, then I updated and it worked again
16:16 <K2> maybe I need to update kiwi again
16:17 <Bliss56> I thought it was because of the ddos attack they had, but that's been several days.
16:18 <K2> hrm, i didnt know they had one
16:20 <K2> pro tip - dont rub hand sanitizer on your face
16:21 <Bliss56> K2 it came up on their twitter account when I searched for "is kiwi irc down?"
16:22 <K2> ah
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16:23 <test> welp, its working on freenode's webchat
16:23 <Beholder> test: Message from bug_sniper at 2017-08-06 22:14 EDT: 
16:23 <Beholder> test: Message from loli at 2017-08-17 03:38 EDT: 
16:23 -!- test is now known as Guest96917
16:23 <Guest96917> <--- K2
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16:24 <K2> lol those test messages are OLD
16:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:46086
16:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:46101
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16:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13 points, T:638, killed by a bolt of lightning
16:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13828
16:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:22580
16:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1461 points, T:3264, killed by a jaguar
16:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 216 points, T:904, killed by a bat
16:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:17522
16:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 29753 points, T:17570, killed by a Green-elf
16:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 869 points, T:1851, killed by a piranha, while frozen by a potion
16:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4398
16:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:730
16:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3462804 points, T:46122, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Delraven/xnethack/dumplog/1584291979.xnh.html
16:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1603
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16:56 <{Demo}> can we get an april fools joke from the DT?
16:56 <{Demo}> like maybe a joke about removing the mysterious force or something?
16:57 <rld> <@riker> april fools slex should just be like, 4k or something
17:03 <aosdict> april 1 is the day nethack4 was announced and no one took it seriously since two other joke variants were announced on the same day
17:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:55120
17:03 <aosdict> it's also the day jonadab announced "Brogue Fourq"
17:03 <{Demo}> hey guys im announcing a new variant
17:03 <rld> <@riker> not notdnethack
17:03 <rld> <@riker> it's literally just dnethack 3.15.2
17:04 <{Demo}> that's a better idea than anything i had so yes, let's say that
17:04 <aosdict> notnotdnethack, in which you can play an notillithiregularchronorebinder
17:04 <rld> <@riker> the only difference from dnethack is the fact that it lists demo as the developer
17:06 <{Demo}> the dedeveloper
17:06 <rld> <@luxidream> notDeveloper
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:55140
17:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:5578
17:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:5579
17:09 <mobileuser> I my head I hear notdnethack as "not the momma" from dinosaurs
17:09 <mobileuser> *In
17:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3436
17:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3568
17:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pyramidal amulet on an altar, on T:3573
17:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a dusty spellbook given to him by Anhur, on T:5909
17:21 <bhaak> aosdict: not announced. the first and only release, that would replace the nethack devteam
17:23 <bhaak> as every other variant developer that released than claimed as well
17:24 <bhaak> I put it down on my CV that I made ais do a release
17:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1274 points, T:1693, killed by a rothe
17:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:360
17:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 350 points, T:571, killed by a rothe
17:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4907
17:47 <mobileuser> yet another evilhack question: can convicts safely eat zombies? or would they still turn into a zombie, despite their sickness resistance?
17:48 <rld> <@riker> there's only one way to find out
17:48 <rld> <@riker> :)
17:48 <rld> <@riker> 2 but asking k2 is cheating
17:49 <mobileuser> hmmm I don't want to cheat but I am not gonna justa zombie either ;-)
17:49 <amateurhour> monster generation in gnollhack is a bit wild
17:49 <mobileuser> *just eat
17:49 <amateurhour> had a water elemental and two chameleons in minetown
17:49 <amateurhour> had 4 mind flayers and a gargoyle in lower mines levels
17:49 <K2> dont eat zombies
17:50 <K2> tin them first
17:50 <amateurhour> is that your apocalypse advice?
17:50 <mobileuser> ah... I thought I read tinned zombies were still unsafe
17:50 <K2> if you ever have a junk game you dont care about, eat a zombie corpse and whatch what happens
17:50 <K2> *watch
17:50 <Umbire> corpses from zombies are just rotten "normal" corpses that might revive
17:51 <Umbire> tinning them solves both problems iirc
17:51 <K2> mobileuser in grunthack even a tinned zombie corpse is bad. i didnt go that far in evilhack
17:51 <Umbire> I figured you wouldn't
17:51 <Umbire> Evil is an art :B
17:51 <K2> :)
17:51 <mobileuser> lol, good to know thx
17:52 <K2> i have seen a couple deaths reported here of a player dying due to eating a zombie corpse
17:53 <mobileuser> the key kops made a report of suspicious zombie eating 
17:53 <mobileuser> bad habit
17:54 <amateurhour> rip, died in mine's end to mindflayer, golem, vampire bat and mumak combo
17:55 <amateurhour> that was 'normal' difficulty fwiw
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17:55 <Umbire> No wonder you get free fl1 altars
17:55 <Umbire> LT griping about gnoll throwing in ideas all willy-nilly absolutely fucking sent me btw
17:56 <Umbire> (even though she's completely right)
17:56 <amateurhour> there's a lot of out of depth monster generation
17:56 <amateurhour> was barely limping through with the healing spell
17:56 <rld> <@luxidream> that's to "balance" all the op things they put in the game
17:56 <amateurhour> also giant ants seem to spawn in a h o a r d e
17:57 <Umbire> """balance"""
17:57 <amateurhour> must have been like 30 giant ants in minetown
17:57 <rld> <@luxidream> also "difficulty" is just an hp modifier
17:57 <rld> <@luxidream> I think hard is 2x and very hard is 4x
17:57 <Umbire> as in 4x more?
17:57 <Umbire> or 1/4
17:57 <rld> <@luxidream> 4x HP
17:57 <rld> <@ScienceBall> I think they changed that
17:57 <Umbire> damage sponging "difficulty"
17:58 <amateurhour> if they changed it to monster difficulty instead, it's currently very broken for 'normal'
17:58 <Umbire> 🤔
17:58 <Umbire> no wonder Ames had a fit
17:58 <rld> <@luxidream> https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/GnollHack/commit/dea682cb30f38ac4f5f8a46d0fe1fb1671777a92
17:58 <rld> <@luxidream> seems like they did change it
17:58 <Umbire> I question her understanding of difficulty all the time but she at least seems to have one
17:59 <rld> <@riker> apparently they changed it, it's not even monster hp now
17:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3726 points, T:6261, killed by a soldier ant
17:59 <rld> <@riker> it's just "damage done by you is less" and "damage done by them is more"
17:59 <rld> <@riker> so it's just glass cannon mode at very hard probably
17:59 <rld> <@luxidream> New game difficulty style should be working now.
17:59 <rld> <@luxidream> extremely informative commit
17:59 <rld> <@luxidream> thanks
17:59 <rld> <@riker> > Game difficulty levels work now differently: They adjust the damage done by the player and monsters. The hit points remain the same on all difficulty levels, but the damage done is adjusted to make hit points seem smaller or larger.
18:00 <Umbire> ????????????
18:00 <Umbire> So you just borked scaling on damage instead?
18:00 <Umbire> Very cool
18:00 <rld> <@riker> > *monster_hp_multiplier_ptr = 1.59;
18:00 <rld> <@riker> insert "So that was a fucking lie." meme here
18:00 <Umbire> :thonk:
18:01 <rld> <@riker> oh boy
18:01 <LarienTelrunya> Umbire: why don't you ping me :P
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18:01 <rld> <@riker> get_game_difficulty_multipliers in uhitm.c is a function that takes in variables and.... redefines the variables locally
18:01 <Umbire> because as you just proved it's quite unneccesary :B
18:01 <K2> oooh boy
18:02 <rld> <@riker> how does that even work right
18:02 <rld> <@riker> are those globals? if so why bother passing them in via arguments?
18:02 <rld> <@riker> I don't have a ton of c experience, but that seems oddly scoped
18:02 <Umbire> my question though is, do they think a bunch of hobbyist coders and nerds who no-life games with ascii graphics aren't gonna eventually fuck about with the code or poke about github and notice this straight up hoghshit?
18:02 <Umbire> -h*
18:03 <rld> <@riker> no need to make personal attacks imo
18:03 <Umbire> personal, what's personal
18:03 <Umbire> I self-identify as a nerd who no-lifes nethack
18:03 <Umbire> :B
18:03 <stenno2> yeah no need for ad-hominem
18:03 <stenno2> invalidates your criticism
18:04 <Umbire> fair enough
18:04 <K2> Umbire welcome to the club hah
18:04 <LarienTelrunya> they probably don't care what we think of their code quality, as seen in their original reaction to that one bug report
18:05 <amateurhour> there is some fun stuff in gnollhack that's worth trying I think
18:05 <LarienTelrunya> "uhh we can't reproduce the bug so it doesn't exist, issue closed, thank you come again"
18:05 <amateurhour> but there's also quite a few wtfs as you play
18:05 <rld> <@riker> https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/GnollHack/blob/master/src/uhitm.c#L4236
18:05 <LarienTelrunya> also, no reaction to all of what I had to say yesterday
18:05 <rld> <@riker> anybody with more c experience want to tell me if that violates best practices or not
18:05 <LarienTelrunya> (when that one guy was in here, that is)
18:05 <amateurhour> to be fair you were quite aggressive towards them yesterday...
18:05 <amateurhour> I wouldn't have replied any other way
18:06 <rld> <@riker> I think they realized there was nothing good that could have come from that conversation with you amy
18:06 <Umbire> granted I didn't even necessarily insult gnolldevs that much, but regardless I'll state it less hyperbolically and say that considering the long-established culture of variant development around nethack and the playing with code thereof, it's a staggering condemnation that they think it's a good idea to say one thing in the summary of a commit push when the code itself very blatantly says another
18:06 <Umbire> and there's people more than willing to poke around the public git and look through those changes
18:07 <amateurhour> I think that looks fine @riker, it's just setting the values
18:07 <Umbire> honestly said condemnation is worse than any insult I could fling if I were actually in a vitriolic mood
18:07 <LarienTelrunya> heh that didn't came out of nowhere, it built up because they constantly either disregarded advice or behaved in a haughty "no our way is better" way
18:07 <Umbire> as it is I'm just incredulous
18:07 <rld> <@riker> amateurhour: but, why not have it return the values modified?
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18:08 <rld> <@riker> I feel like a void function that modifies some variables in a different function is probably a mistake
18:08 <LarienTelrunya> anyway, need to get some sleep now; have fun not playing gnollhack, like I'm already doing :P
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18:08 <rld> <@riker> but i have no professional c coding exp or anything
18:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:666
18:08 <Umbire> Fuck, Netsplitter generated
18:08 <Umbire> where's the gnome
18:08 <Umbire> :B
18:08 <rld> <@riker> and lord knows the nethack code i've worked on can be horrific
18:08 <amateurhour> it's modifying what you're pointing to with the parameters there basically
18:09 <rld> <@riker> yeah I understand how it's more of why
18:09 <amateurhour> not really many 'good' ways to set two things at once
18:09 <rld> <@riker> hm true
18:09 <amateurhour> return a struct with them in, and then set that somewhere? also a bit gross
18:09 <amateurhour> it's not a particularly expressive programming language
18:09 <amateurhour> so when are we rewriting NetHack in Haskell and calling it NetHask?
18:10 <rld> <@riker> for that particular role i'd have just axed the function probably
18:10 <Umbire> oh, that I had the programming savvy to run with that joke
18:10 <Umbire> so many delicious puns I'm missing out on ;;
18:10 <stenno2> also please consider where those gnollhack devs come from
18:11 <rld> <@riker> amateurhour: functional programming nethack sounds like a mistake
18:11 <stenno2> can you do even proper functional programming with C
18:11 <stenno2> do we have first class function objects in C
18:12 <Umbire> I'm barely even a hobbyist coder but frankly that's a good point
18:12 <amateurhour> you have to DIY it with function pointers basically, and it's really gross
18:12 <Umbire> I've heard enough about C's rep along those lines
18:13 <amateurhour> or abuse GNU extensions I suppose
18:13 <amateurhour> better to not even try all that I think and just use a language that supports it properly
18:14 <stenno2> wait are we talking about porting nethack to something again :P
18:15 <amateurhour> I was joking about rewriting it in Haskell
18:15 <Umbire> ^
18:15 <stenno2> i think sooner or later in the process the natural conclusion is 'fuck that code, imma do my own shit'
18:15 <amateurhour> though if you're down, I'm down :^)
18:15 <stenno2> 'imma write my own roguelike'
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18:16 <stenno2> do we have proper TCO in C?
18:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] picaresquieu (Pri Hum Nbn Cha), 243 points, T:1017, done in by a hobbit
18:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1067
18:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1
18:19 <stenno2> anyway, the answer to the question 'in which language should i rewrite nethack' is 'MU, write your own roguelike, its better'
18:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:696
18:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 705 points, T:1934, killed by a giant ant
18:26 <Umbire> MU meaning?
18:27 <amateurhour> miss u x
18:28 <Umbire> lmao
18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:86434
18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1198
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18:31 <stenno2> Umbire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)#%22Unasking%22_the_question
18:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1377
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 396 points, T:1405, killed by a small mimic
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18:35 <aosdict> [backscroll] I wonder if they are intentionally committing code badly in order so that no one will read it.
18:35 * Umbire shrugs
18:35 <Umbire> You tell me
18:36 <aosdict> like, what if they put in spyware or something, and are relying on nondescript commit messages and cluttering up git diffs with unnecessary changes so that no one bothers to dig deeply enough to find that
18:37 <stenno2> hanlons razor
18:37 <bhaak> @riker yeah it's a bit of a smell. another option would be global variables (also not that good) or one function that returns one variable.
18:38 <bhaak> also, floating point operation is somewhat nethack doesn't really do normally.
18:38 <Umbire> yeah, whatever I may think of this situation, I doubt there's that level of malice involved
18:38 <Umbire> if any at all
18:40 <Umbire> just many signs of incompetence for better or wose, with responses that feel a bit too pr to really reassure people of their intent
18:41 <rld> <@riker> bhaak: is a separate function even needed there? it doesn't seem to be used elsewhere, so I'd split into 2 functions for the 2 variables if you want it to use it elsewhere or just put that switch into the main function
18:41 <aosdict> I think what rubs people the wrong way is that they're not receptive to many suggestions that are trying to help them out
18:41 <stenno2> that is indeed a valid point of criticism against the project
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18:43 <Umbire> yep, hence the pr quip
18:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided arch-liches locally on T:86732
18:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided master liches locally on T:86735
18:44 <Umbire> from what responses I've read of theirs, the wording seems more designed to pacify than actually address matters
18:47 <aosdict> because they aren't interested in actually addressing matters. most of their responses are "we can look into it"
18:47 <Umbire> exactly
18:48 <Umbire> real confidence booster that
18:48 <Umbire>  /s
18:48 <Umbire> then you get things like that commit and just "???????????"
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18:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:19973
19:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed MHL's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:1609
19:19 <rld> <@microlance> can you even get excalibur in spl? or do i have it laying in some bones in the mines or something?
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Cthulhu, on T:87336
19:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1671
19:22 <aosdict> IIRC you can't get it with any lawful character over level 5 dipping in fountains.
19:22 <aosdict> It might be role-locked to Knights?
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19:38 <picaresquieu> been so long since I fought Cthulhu that i forgot he has an amnesia attack >_<
19:38 <picaresquieu> there goes my record of stashes for the ascent
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19:43 <rld> <@microlance> im a knight got crowned aswell without getting anything but a blessing on my silver axe. so its probably laying around somewhere
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19:47 <bouquet> !tell AntiGulp 0.7.1 looks good! I'm ready to test my astralspat strategy.
19:47 <Beholder> Will do, bouquet!
19:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] zor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 5180 points, T:2902, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping
19:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:694
19:50 <bhaak> @riker I didn't look how it's called. if it's just called once, splitting it up into 2 separate functions might indeed be easier or yes, even integrate it into the main code with a simple array access.
19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (killer bees), on T:4754
19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] trellgrom (zor) (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 12456 points, T:528, killed by a large mimic
19:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:997
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20:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21538
20:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed MHL's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2974
20:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3690 points, T:5836, killed by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster
20:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:88128
20:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3602 points, T:4914, struck down by a wax golem
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20:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:88186
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20:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3073
20:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] BLARGO (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9223
20:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 5 points, T:157, killed by a fox
20:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law), 677 points, T:1365, killed by a giant ant
20:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:542
20:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2106 points, T:2710, killed by a soldier ant
20:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:980
20:37 <rld> <@luxidream> @microlance excal is different in that it won't be given on crowning unless you are wielding a long sword
20:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4208
20:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4269
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20:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 5666 points, T:5194, killed by a watchman
20:57 <K2> I just read this on reddit: 'It’s called quarantine coffee. It’s just like normal coffee but it has a margarita in it and also no coffee.'
20:57 <K2> \o/
20:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4130
21:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4204
21:05 <aosdict> YANI: The castle chest with the wand of wishing requires a special unique key to open, which is carried by a random lieutenant or captain generated on the level. Think twice before using that drawbridge as a meat grinder.
21:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:15948
21:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4936
21:14 <oh6> currently soldiers may carry the castle chest out to the drawbridge anyway
21:14 <oh6> although perhaps that's been fixed
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21:18 <stenno2> its fixed
21:18 <stenno2> there is a followup commit by bhaak which respects onscary
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21:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:760
21:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:5582
21:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1237
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21:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:90263
21:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5363
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21:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1508
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21:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:458
21:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1096 points, T:1602, killed by a purple worm
21:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1647
21:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1675
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21:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1747
21:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:91129
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21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:768
21:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 210 points, T:841, killed by Ms. Kilgarvan; the shopkeeper
22:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4882
22:00 <K2> aosdict thats a really good YANI
22:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7581 points, T:7539, poisoned by an orcish arrow
22:02 <stenno2> that yani sounds as if something might go terribly wrong
22:03 <stenno2> imagine that soldier reading cursed tele
22:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5760
22:04 * Menchers gets called a caitiff for killing some mold
22:04 <Menchers> O_o
22:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1476
22:05 <stenno2> back to nethack, Menchers ?
22:06 <Menchers> ye
22:06 <stenno2> neat
22:07 <stenno2> what were you doing before? :P
22:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:574
22:08 <Menchers> the usual, messing around on irc and reddit, playing minecraft or minetest
22:08 <stenno2> oh minecraft
22:08 <stenno2> i started a 1.15.2 map today
22:08 <stenno2> after getting very frustrated that its apparently super complex to install shaders
22:09 <Menchers> optifine?
22:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3729 points, T:8907, killed by a white unicorn
22:09 <stenno2> yeah man optifine 
22:09 <rld> <@riker> optifine 1.15 isn't out yet is it
22:10 <rld> <@riker> *not a stable release
22:10 <Menchers> got a new laptop that came with windows
22:10 <stenno2> indeed
22:10 <Menchers> playing minecraft 1.15 on it
22:10 <Menchers> on openbsd I'm limited to minecraft 1.12
22:10 <stenno2> i figured that out from the git repo
22:10 <stenno2> i played ftb revelations before which is a 1.12 modpack
22:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1027
22:11 <Menchers> *bsd has an older version of lwjgl  :(
22:11 <stenno2> but i wanted to check out all the new content so i made a 1.15.2 
22:11 <stenno2> with blast furnaces and teh new nether ore
22:11 <stenno2> and the new nether biomes
22:11 <Menchers> is the nether ore out yet
22:11 <stenno2> and fucking bees
22:11 <Menchers> those fucking bees are huge
22:11 <stenno2> yeah
22:11 <stenno2> \but they _do_ look very cute
22:12 <stenno2> but they look different to the forestry bees which were particles
22:12 <stenno2> they are real enttites now
22:12 <Menchers> kerio had a ftb:revelation server for a bit
22:12 <stenno2> damn
22:12 <Menchers> man, that modpack is obscene
22:12 <Menchers> like fifteen minutes to initialize
22:12 <stenno2> kitchen sink
22:12 <Menchers> needs literally every megabyte of RAM I could spare
22:12 <Menchers> still crashed occasionally
22:13 <stenno2> i played it super smooth with 40GB ram
22:13 <stenno2> max view distance and stuff
22:13 <Menchers> I had... 8GB
22:13 <stenno2> oof
22:13 <Menchers> lol
22:14 <stenno2> my mac came with 8gb, i upgraded to 40 for explicit purpose of playing minecraft
22:14 <Menchers> need your massive modpacks?
22:14 <Menchers> ...8 seems to be plenty for vanilla
22:14 <stenno2> for vanilla, sure
22:15 <Menchers> I played around with the Botania mod; it's nice but isn't really that worth it in ftb:revelation because so much other stuff is more overpowered
22:15 <Menchers> just throw all the stuff in with no regard for balance
22:15 <stenno2> there are really good early-to-mid items in botania
22:16 <stenno2> soujurners sash (sp?), pyroclastic pendant
22:16 <Menchers> also made a bunch of tinkers construct stuff, then kerio gets his draconic evolution crap
22:16 <stenno2> hah
22:16 <Menchers> becomes almost completely untouchable
22:16 <stenno2> yeah draconic evolution is OP
22:16 <Menchers> dragon suit with a forcefield powered by fusion reactors
22:16 <stenno2> yeah the end tier armor makes you invulnerable
22:16 <stenno2> yeah
22:16 <Menchers> he put the reactors in another dimension because of course there are other dimensions for that sort of thing
22:17 <stenno2> you need that armor to fight the endgame boss from draconic evultion though
22:17 <stenno2> unfortunately kerio and i are not exactly on speaking terms, i would like to play online with others again
22:19 <stenno2> my favorite mod from revelations is astral sourcery
22:19 <stenno2> they have a ritual to prevent mob spawning in like a 4k block radius
22:19 <stenno2> also a tick accelerator and a plant growing ritual
22:19 <stenno2> can do a lot of shit with taht
22:20 <stenno2> unfortunately you cannot accelerate environmental tech void ore miner
22:21 <stenno2> kept my TiCon pickaxe until the endgame btw
22:22 <stenno2> indestructable fortune 3 hasted, very good
22:22 <stenno2> mining level cobalt
22:24 <Menchers> had some stuff made from... that weirdly named nether ore
22:24 <Menchers> manny something
22:25 <stenno2> mannylin
22:25 <stenno2> mannilyn
22:25 <stenno2> er
22:25 <stenno2> manyllin
22:25 <stenno2> something like that
22:25 <Menchers> kerio liked testing out his overpowered redstone weapons on his teammates
22:25 <stenno2> i know
22:25 <Menchers> so for revenge I made a rapier that could pierce his OP redstone armory armor
22:25 <Menchers> :D
22:25 <stenno2> oh yeah
22:26 <Menchers> my cleaver did nothing to him
22:26 <stenno2> thats useful against the Lich boss from twilight forest
22:26 <stenno2> i played with him and adeon on my server
22:27 <stenno2> witnessed my first wither kill and promptly died of it
22:28 <stenno2> adeon used computercraft to build a gigantic sphere in some other dimension iirc
22:28 <Adeon> it was great
22:28 <Menchers> yeah he mentioned that
22:28 <Adeon> it was powered by haskell, lua and mistakes
22:28 <Menchers> didn't do it this time
22:28 <stenno2> :D
22:28 <Menchers> even though kerio's obsessive quantum quarring got use hundreds of thousands of cobblestone blocks
22:29 <stenno2> huh
22:29 <stenno2> revelations didnt have mekanism
22:29 <stenno2> you mean environmental tech void ore miner?
22:29 <Menchers> idk
22:29 <Menchers> think it was called a quantum quarry
22:29 <stenno2> thats from mekanism
22:29 <stenno2> maybe he added it
22:30 <stenno2> oh my bad
22:30 <Menchers> kerio's an obsessive minmaxer, got a little annoying
22:30 <stenno2> mekanism is in revelations
22:30 <stenno2> fair
22:30 <Menchers> obtaining fuckloads of cobblestone is more important than building cool stuff with it
22:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] davidkent (Arc Gno Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:31734
22:30 <stenno2> then he didn't filter it correctly :P
22:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3409
22:30 <stenno2> who needs cobblestone anyway
22:31 <stenno2> industrial foregoing has a cobbleworks
22:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3450
22:31 <Menchers> a couple button presses on his fancy storage system could turn it into anything you can craft with cobble
22:31 <Menchers> advanced energistics I think?
22:31 <stenno2> applied
22:32 <Menchers> I hunted down a few meteorite craters for him
22:32 <stenno2> nowadays i prefer AE to refined storage, the whole channel thing is much more fun
22:32 <Menchers> better than ye olde wall of chests?  :D
22:32 <stenno2> hell yeah
22:32 <stenno2> storage systems are a must in modded minecraft
22:33 <stenno2> and autocrafting
22:33 <Adeon> I have since learned about how much you can do in vanilla
22:33 <Adeon> I have seen a vanilla quarry that has quarried more than kerio has in his minecraft career combined
22:33 <stenno2> well you surely cannot autocraft
22:33 <Adeon> that part you can't do
22:34 <Adeon> ...maybe
22:34 <Adeon> they do some crazy shit
22:34 <Menchers> been playing on a vanilla server, and the most annoying part is figuring out which chest to dump my crap in when my inventory's full
22:34 <stenno2> you can do some insane storage stuff with vanilla though
22:34 <Menchers> ...and which chest to look in when I need something
22:34 <Adeon> https://youtu.be/3DBQxxvuWYA?t=1543
22:34 <stenno2> with search interface and stuff
22:34 <Menchers> six billion hoppers?
22:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:92261
22:35 <stenno2> damn lol
22:35 <stenno2> that looks like a draconic evolution reactor explosion
22:35 <stenno2> oh mumbo jumbo
22:35 <Adeon> in another video they figured out how to remove bedrock and then made a machine to remove bedrock at massive scale
22:36 <stenno2> sounds a bit like bug abuse
22:36 <Menchers> what the hell
22:36 <Menchers> did they make a machine to do that in vanilla
22:37 <Adeon> I think in that community
22:37 <stenno2> didn't kerio have that world eater which was basically a quarry which moved itself when it was done quarrying
22:37 <Adeon> it's very much not why
22:37 <Adeon> but why not
22:37 <stenno2> eeh fair enough
22:37 <stenno2> its vanilla hacking
22:37 <stenno2> but i'd rather play modded instead of hacking vanilla i think
22:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:92312
22:38 <Menchers> ok the video got to the point of showing the machine
22:38 <Menchers> that's insane
22:38 <stenno2> i remember that we played vanilla, and you calculated a way to do damage to blazes so they had exactly 1 hp left
22:38 <Menchers> is that the world eater you're referring to
22:38 <stenno2> so you could use that as a farm
22:38 <stenno2> Menchers: no that was modded
22:39 <rld> <@riker> suffocation works for that
22:39 <stenno2> we played vanilla first because i didn't like modded, and at some point i think i got convinced to play modded
22:39 <rld> <@riker> i've done a blaze xp farm where it just suffocated them to 1/2 heart
22:39 <stenno2> @riker yeah it was done with pistons
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22:39 <Menchers> there's a Botania flower that damages enemies down to 1HP  :)
22:40 <stenno2> piston mashing
22:40 <stenno2> i guess with the new honey block you have infinitely more possibilities for redstone stuff in vanilla
22:41 <stenno2> man imagine the computer you need to run such a vanilla quarry without too much lag
22:41 <Menchers> haven't learned much about them but there are flying machines now
22:41 <Menchers> uses the new observer things
22:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:92404
22:42 <Menchers> someone on the server I play on now has a sugarcane farm using a flying machine
22:42 <stenno2> lol
22:42 <stenno2> with the compost thing you can make insane 0-tick farms
22:42 <Menchers> on a nethack related topic have I ever mentioned I hate leprechauns
22:43 <Menchers> we have a compost farm
22:43 <Menchers> it is not enormously efficient
22:43 <Menchers> it's basically a cactus farm that auto-composts the products
22:43 <stenno2> right
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:92439
22:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed mosen's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:4328
22:48 <Menchers> leprechaun hunting is harder without infravision
22:48 <stenno2> is that really an issue though
22:49 <stenno2> dunno when i last had problems with leppies
22:49 <stenno2> then again dunno when i last played properly
22:49 <Menchers> I have no money
22:49 <Menchers> maybe I shouldn't care
22:51 <Menchers> I should keep moving, get more food so I don't have to eat my horse's apples
22:51 <stenno2> sounds like a plan
22:51 <stenno2> lol
22:52 <Menchers> elven mithril! time to ditch this stupidly heavy plate mail
22:53 <stenno2> lol knights
22:53 <Menchers> :D
22:53 <stenno2> i drop the armor almost immediately
22:53 <Menchers> my 0 AC tho
22:53 <stenno2> even studded leather is better than that shit
22:53 <Menchers> I mean, I started with a +1 ring mail, then "upgraded" to the plate mail I found
22:53 <Menchers> I... wasn't burdened while riding, at least?
22:54 <Menchers> that AC tho
22:54 <stenno2> yeah riding helps with carry cap
22:56 <stenno2> bleh i should consider going home and to bed
22:56 <stenno2> 5am here
22:56 <Menchers> going to bed? at 5am?  ;o
22:56 <Menchers> sun'll be up in a few hours
22:57 <stenno2> gotta sleep at some point
22:57 <stenno2> i work from home so my schedule is super flexible
22:57 <stenno2> for better or worse
22:57 <Menchers> hah
22:58 <rld> <@luxidream> me too stenno
22:58 <rld> <@luxidream> me too
22:59 <stenno2> :P
23:01 <Menchers> should I be jousting stuff with my lance
23:01 <Menchers> will this break it
23:01 <stenno2> yes
23:01 <Menchers> oh I should acquire Excal
23:01 <stenno2> yes
23:01 <stenno2> it will break unless its an artifact lance which doesn't exist
23:02 <Menchers> this seems to limit the usefulness of the lance :/
23:03 <Menchers> beatitude+luck help?
23:03 <stenno2> i think the chance that a lance breaks is least when you have exactly 1 luck
23:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:944
23:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1042
23:04 <rld> <@riker> i'm pretty sure it gets much better with higher luck
23:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 266 points, T:1122, killed by a hobbit
23:04 <stenno2> hmm apparently
23:04 <stenno2> not
23:04 <stenno2> must be misremembering
23:04 <stenno2> there was something strange with luck and lances...
23:04 <rld> <@riker> it doesn't get that much better past +1 but more is better
23:05 <rld> <@riker> for reference +1 is 1/9550, but +13 is only 12500, and +0 is 1/250
23:05 <rld> <@riker> blessed/enchantment don't matter
23:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:93281
23:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 15504 points, T:8420, zombified by an orc zombie, while helpless
23:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1755 points, T:3850, killed by a gold golem
23:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:477
23:06 <Menchers> rip
23:07 <stenno2> rnl(50) == (50 - 1)
23:07 <Menchers> goldlem'd
23:07 <stenno2> rip
23:08 <stenno2> hm i must be super misremembering
23:08 <Andrio> We still need an artifact lance.
23:08 <rld> <@riker> rnl(x) is biased towards 0 with higher luck I think
23:08 <stenno2> yeah
23:09 <stenno2> @riker, correct
23:09 <rld> <@luxidream> we need lances to weigh less than 180
23:10 <Andrio> It's heavier than the Orb of Weight
23:10 <stenno2> 1.2 oofs
23:10 <Umbire> Solid 6/10 oofs m8
23:11 <{Demo}> I agree
23:11 <{Demo}> fuck lance weight
23:11 <stenno2> the whole breaking thing is kinda silly anyway imo
23:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6120
23:12 <stenno2> would a lance be too op if it wouldn't break?
23:12 <{Demo}> no
23:13 <stenno2> i wouldn't know, i don't use lance because they breaj
23:13 <stenno2> k
23:13 <{Demo}> oh I have quite a bit
23:13 <Andrio> EPI: your fists may break when you make a staggering blow.
23:13 <{Demo}> with proper skill and luck, I think you get like 3 9s?
23:14 <{Demo}> nearly 4?
23:14 <stenno2> 9s?
23:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3664 points, T:6220, killed by a fire ant
23:14 <{Demo}> of reliability
23:14 <stenno2> ah
23:15 <stenno2> well that seems good enough
23:15 <stenno2> still have to ascend that knight twoweaponing lances riding a dragon
23:16 <{Demo}> dragons are slow
23:16 <{Demo}> you want a kirin
23:16 <stenno2> just for style points
23:16 <stenno2> ki-rin was severely nerfed in 3.6.x tho
23:16 <stenno2> they just die now
23:17 <Andrio> Eh
23:17 <{Demo}> wait what??
23:17 <Andrio> On the Astral Plane, likely.
23:17 <Andrio> They can still heal themselves and grow to over 200 HP
23:17 <{Demo}> they get nerfed already in 3.43 i think
23:17 <{Demo}> by fixing them wearing armor
23:17 <{Demo}> how did they get nerfed in 3.6?
23:17 <Andrio> They can't use any equipment
23:17 <stenno2> Prior to NetHack 3.6.0, ki-rin were able to wear amulets, boots, shields, and gloves despite being ridable. This was bug C341-18.
23:17 <Andrio> Be extremely careful with your wand of death.
23:18 <stenno2> yeah, no more reflection
23:18 <stenno2> interesting that it was a 3.4.1 bug that was only fixed in 3.6.0 and not 3.4.3
23:18 <Andrio> They're still much better steeds than dragons though.
23:18 <stenno2> yes yes
23:18 <stenno2> but dragons
23:18 <stenno2> twoweaponing lances while riding a dragon is the ultimate style
23:18 <Andrio> True, yeah.~
23:18 <{Demo}> that's dumb
23:19 <{Demo}> dragons are still weaker though I think
23:19 <stenno2> no, its stylish
23:19 <stenno2> and dragons can use their breath now
23:19 <{Demo}> oh
23:19 <stenno2> so a black dragon might just roflstomp through crowded areas
23:20 <{Demo}> you don't want a black dragon steed
23:20 <{Demo}> they get merked by death rays too easily
23:20 <stenno2> silver dragon?
23:20 <{Demo}> sure
23:20 <stenno2> get that bling from ultimate style points
23:21 <{Demo}> dragons are too slow to use as a steed on Astral and not suffer greatly
23:21 <stenno2> anyway time to go
23:22 <{Demo}> I could see riding a unicorn on astral
23:22 <Andrio> Indeed
23:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1000
23:23 <Andrio> Perfect timing.
23:23 <Andrio> Dragons don't breathe disintegration blasts while you're riding them, right?
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23:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:73543
23:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1459
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23:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:94015
23:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1585
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23:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3170
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23:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:94258
23:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 828 points, T:2871, killed by a housecat
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23:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 62 points, T:155, killed by a water moccasin
23:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:458
23:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wood nymph corpse, on T:6124
23:57 <bouquet> what do pet penguins eat?
23:57 <bouquet> sardines?
23:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 18692 points, T:6388, killed by trying to drink molten lava