00:01 black dragon pet: pros - disintegrates stuff. cons - disintegrates stuff 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1136 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2742 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 488 points, T:1780, killed by a soldier ant 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2371 points, T:3471, killed by a snake 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:330175 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:771 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:330407 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:330409 00:23 I think I've extincted everything. 00:23 What am I forgetting? 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:534 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:589 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 440 points, T:1336, killed by a boiling potion 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:332394 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:3351 00:46 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 00:57 <@Suzune Takada> it seems the new level of spl 00:57 <@Suzune Takada> frost giants 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1507 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3469 00:59 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the Failure Eidolon, on T:34982 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:333182 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 994 points, T:2019, killed by a giant spider 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 0 points, T:15, killed by a water moccasin 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1892 points, T:3076, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed greenbourne277's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:3984 01:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 73 points, T:157, killed by a fox 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:333607 01:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 69 points, T:178, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:520 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:333728 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed potions of gain energy", on T:333803 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1412 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Hothraxxa", on T:333838 01:22 <@Suzune Takada> oops mind frayers 01:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] picaresquieu (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1108 points, T:3313, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:22 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible Ancient Brain, on T:36953 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 35077072 points, T:333848, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1564556664.nh.html 01:24 omg. nearly died to famine. 01:24 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 01:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 01:24 Hot DAMN, bouquet, congratulations! 01:25 hahaha that's epic! nice one bouquet! 01:25 Tangles: Message from Umbire at 2020-03-30 12:25 EDT: late congrats 01:25 thanks. 01:26 took me 333k turns 01:26 I couldn't figure out how to extinct ; though. They wouldn't spawn anywhere there was water. 01:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 756 points, T:2852, poisoned by a rotted floating eye corpse 01:27 an a purple worm ate my woodchuck named Hothraxxa :( 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:23761 01:30 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) performed their first genocide (class L), on T:37159 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1500 points, T:11, escaped 01:31 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:31 Tangles: <3 01:32 Nice finish bouquet! 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:10 01:33 I usually play standing up and when I saw Famine had me passed out and stunned and actually fell to the ground in disbelief. 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:174 01:33 I've been working on this since last november! To die so stupidly all of a sudden would have been heartbreaking! 01:34 congrats bouquet :) 01:35 thanks, K2! 01:35 107 hours of play time 01:35 Holy shit 01:35 4 days, 11 hours. That's 107, right? 01:37 whew! I'm going to bed. 01:39 <@Suzune Takada> one eyed sam :( 01:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) averted death, on T:1615 01:40 <@luxidream> big score 01:40 <@luxidream> nice win 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1031 points, T:1687, killed by a hill orc 01:42 <@Suzune Takada> yeah too expensive 01:42 <@luxidream> not wearing life saving on extinctionist 01:43 <@luxidream> scary 01:43 Oh gosh 01:45 monkafuckingS 01:46 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) genocided class h, on T:38693 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:5926 01:48 <@luxidream> it takes balls to put all 107 hours on the line like that 01:52 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:611 02:04 bouquet could probably cause earthquakes in india if they teabagged right now 02:08 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 02:08 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:12 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29177 02:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:29922 02:21 aosdict: sessile monsters that get turns exist in slex (M3_NONMOVING) and I think also in dnethack 02:29 oh damn, I read splicehack's new commit as "smoky pythons"... now I have to make them into a monster :D 02:32 !who 02:32 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] MHL [nh370] SuzuneTakada [spl] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] mobileuser [evil] vimla [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 02:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:31248 02:38 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:40 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) polymorphed their first object, on T:42331 02:43 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 03:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2100 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:2248 03:08 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:18 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Croesus, on T:43111 03:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 03:28 <@Suzune Takada> conflict ring is super effective in ludios 03:35 smoky pythons huh 03:35 they'll just let any idea into variants these days 03:35 /s 03:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:792 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1590 05:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1632 05:27 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:37 -!- irina|lo1 is now known as irina|log 05:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3395 points, T:2752, killed by a mountain centaur 05:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:171 06:22 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:42 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:10 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:10 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 07:10 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:02 <@Suzune Takada> clone of myself? 08:09 morning 08:09 Uh oh 08:12 Morning! 08:13 afternoon :) 08:18 :) 08:25 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) averted death, on T:46918 08:29 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 09:11 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed Medusa, on T:49966 09:15 <@Suzune Takada> yay 09:17 <@Suzune Takada> The Void? looks like new level in spl 09:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:22 yet another evilhack question: how many times can a wand of death be recharged? 09:23 Saw in the changelog that it is limited. 09:28 mobileuser: commit message says one recharge, like a wand of wishing 09:28 aargh! thx ;-) 09:29 I wish I had been more conservative with my wands of death :-) 09:32 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 969 points, T:2970, killed by a gnome 09:32 Hello folks 09:43 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cavemain (Bin Clk Mal Non), 0 points, T:13, killed by a fox 09:51 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:52659 09:52 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:52662 09:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cavemain (Bin Clk Mal Non), 52 points, T:310, killed by shredding of the soul 09:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cavemain (Bin Clk Mal Non), 182 points, T:1621, killed by a jackal 10:09 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:12 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 79 points, T:397, cut down by a fox called Nick Wilde 10:14 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:21 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:53401 10:22 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:23 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) entered Gehennom, on T:53436 10:31 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:31 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 10:31 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) was given the Limb of the Black Tree, on T:30594 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:46947 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1755 points, T:3859, killed by a lesser nightmare 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:46952 10:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) was given Spineseeker, on T:30675 10:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Inc Mal Cha) anointed by Diana, on T:30764 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5257 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law), 9453 points, T:5478, killed by a watch captain 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:48473 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] Helios (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1363 points, T:2478, killed by a werejackal 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4215 points, T:6311, killed by an arrow 11:09 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:11 morning! 11:11 feels great to have the weight of that run off my back. 11:12 <{Demo}> hey at least it doesn't feel like there's a weight on your chest 11:12 I'll consult my doctor if there is 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) bribed Dispater with 60 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:49655 11:15 <@Suzune Takada> I'm curious what dangerous monsters in spl gehennom what aren't in vanilla 11:17 vorpal jabberwocks, but apparently the splice version won't decapitate you. 11:21 -!- knaveightt has joined #hardfought 11:22 -!- mobileuser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28 -!- knaveightt has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:561 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:759 11:33 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1181 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 881 points, T:1434, killed by a hill orc 11:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:43343 11:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:43345 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:347 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 373 points, T:379, killed by a hobbit 11:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:43426 11:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:45, on T:43494 11:56 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:557 12:02 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8-rc1] 12:03 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 12:10 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 12:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:13 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 196 points, T:571, killed by a wand 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 36 points, T:369, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 12:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 12:32 gg microlance :) 12:32 <@luxidream> gg 12:32 yay microlance 12:33 <@microlance> got a bit intense at the end, my altar was the last i found 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Cen Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:13241 12:34 dammit 12:34 already got mr, need reflection 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6189 12:38 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 12:42 gg 12:44 What was the game like up to Astral? 12:44 @microlance 12:51 <@microlance> Pretty facerolly for the most part once I got my things enchanted. My biggest issue were Vlad who escaped to another named demons floor, I had to beat him with a cockatrice after trying to kill him for what felt like forever. 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14051 12:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:54 did he flee via the ladder? 12:56 <@microlance> yep, should probably try another class now. orb of fate + under 30 ac MR MC3 and reflection really felt like i was immortal 12:57 <@microlance> my closest call was when i ate a green slime 12:57 <@microlance> and had to panic wiki how to not get slimed 12:58 my favourite is probably monk 12:58 though samurai is fairly straightforward 12:58 (if you were looking for suggestions) 12:59 Just found bones in evilhack with a WoW 1 : 3 13:00 <@riker> oooh nice 13:00 Now I'm even more afraid to mess it up :-) 13:00 <@riker> looks like you're already pretty well set up 13:00 <@riker> is that demo's lair? 13:01 It was a bones level so I never met demo 13:01 but I only found out later by overview 13:02 I didn't understand why I wasn't meeting demo :-) 13:05 Getting burdened with all that loot, choices, choices.... 13:06 Feels bad don't it 13:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:18 seen on the gnollhack tournament thread: "Hi, after more investigation, it is indeed so that termcast does pretty much the same as what dgamelaunch already does, so it does not bring added value in this case. Thus, in order to get the $5 live recording bonus, one needs to use Twitch or YouTube, as per the current tournament rules." 13:19 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8-rc1] 13:19 so they're willing to pay you $5 for... "added value"? 13:21 this is so weird 13:22 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 13:22 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:22 thonk 13:22 @luxidream do you usually fully explore the first few levels of the mines on a run? 13:22 <@luxidream> speedrun? 13:22 <@luxidream> regular run? 13:23 speedrun 13:23 <@luxidream> no, not much loot 13:23 <@luxidream> chances of finding a marker or lamp are pretty slim 13:23 there's a fair few tools, chance of magic mar- 13:23 ah 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:15132 13:24 <@luxidream> if it's dark you also waste a lot of time 13:25 blaze it straight to minetown then 13:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:20, on T:44387 13:27 <@luxidream> !who 13:27 @luxidream: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] Grouchy [evil] karibou [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Kevkat [nh370] hyperion67 [spl] post163 [spl] arnibald [xnh] Delraven [xnh] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] AlbertB [nh370] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:29 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13118 points, T:8331, poisoned by a scorpion 13:36 -!- mobileuser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:37 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 13:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1259 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1530 13:55 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 13:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 195 points, T:1001, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 13:58 [backscroll] The “addded value” of a twitch stream thing is so weird 14:00 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 973 points, T:1255, eliminated by a gnome lord 14:00 The whole tournament almost reads like an astroturfing exercise. 14:02 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 51 points, T:297, killed by a silver dart 14:04 AntiGulp: I know, the diction they use is so... businesslike. 14:06 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 217 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:50171 14:08 * AntiGulp colors herself suspicious 14:10 -!- Tommi has joined #hardfought 14:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1267 14:10 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 14:11 HI! Can somebody explain me what new features did LUA support in NetHack 3.6.3 bring? 14:12 lua is not in 3.6 14:14 Aha. So it is in 3.7? 14:14 yes 14:15 Does it bring some new features over the old system? 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1606 14:18 yes 14:23 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 14:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:24 -!- Tommi has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25 I suppose that answered that then 14:26 does the lua stuff include stuff other that relating to the level description files? (grammar :x) 14:26 wasn't that the gnollhack dev 14:26 yes 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3244 14:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:27 does a normal variant dev not commit autogenerated files like pm.h or oracle.lev? :P 14:28 (and yes I did that in the early days, but kerio quickly taught me not to do that) 14:28 if autogenerated means 'created during compile time', then you shouldn't commit it 14:29 but you're not a normal variant dev? :P 14:30 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 262 points, T:814, sent to the grave by a small mimic 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3511 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a white potion on an altar, on T:3515 14:36 stenno: I thought janne_hmp was the main gnollhack dev 14:37 <@riker> I thought it was tommi g? 14:37 inb4 "hey guys we just released a new version of gnollhack merging 3.7 but we're sure it's bug free" just before the tournament starts 14:37 heh, even now they're adding new items and stuff 14:38 will be a lot of fun if they also do that after tournament start 14:38 "oh lol we didn't think that would break saves" 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:52250 14:38 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:38 and I even specifically told them how one can test changes for save compatibility... but if they're not gonna listen... 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:880 14:40 they've patted themselves on the back for "we've fixed all known bugs" a little much 14:40 <{Demo}> they havent even run the fuzzer ever 14:40 <{Demo}> to the best of my knowledge 14:41 they haven't listened to anything we said to them ever 14:41 because they're a haughty lot that knows everything better than we do! :P 14:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided class R, on T:52406 14:44 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1653 14:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:49 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 767 points, T:2011, sent to the grave by a skunk 14:49 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 69 points, T:239, killed by a newt 14:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:44738 14:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on the Plane of Earth, on T:44738 14:56 going fast is hard :( 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:6590 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53405 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2564 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2599 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:6635 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed vimla's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6651 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5027 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5061 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53547 15:01 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 15:06 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5320 15:08 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2639 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3396 points, T:5414, killed by a giant ant 15:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2859 15:15 <@luxidream> I just read github where they dismissed demo's bug report in january without even verifying it 15:15 <@luxidream> wtf 15:16 <{Demo}> yeah if you wanna know more about the game and the project, look at their github and look deeply at it cause it speaks for itself 15:17 look at their github, read the release notes, and go no further 15:17 <@riker> i still hate that their changelog is their release notes 15:17 <@riker> and it's all split up and not sorted 15:17 <@luxidream> there are random yanis under "issues" 15:17 who? 15:18 because I do that @ changelog 15:18 kinda 15:18 because I don't have releases 15:18 <@luxidream> gnollhack 15:18 oh that thing 15:18 'that thing' 15:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:832 15:19 seemed interesting at first, but their practices are eerily similar to a properitiary game 15:19 which isn't a bad thing per se, but for something like NetHack, it's really off 15:19 <@luxidream> the level of disgust from those three words 15:20 @luxidream hmm? 15:20 <@luxidream> "oh that thing" 15:20 @luxidream browsing the issues list, most of them wouldn't qualify as archive-quality yanis due to either being too vague or too dependent on gnollhack systems 15:20 oh that 15:20 that didn't come across to me as disgusted 15:20 (thing :P) 15:20 more like remembering something forgettable 15:21 yeah 15:21 I was a bit put off by their practices, but not to the point that I'm emotionally invested in it 15:21 <@luxidream> I use "yanis" loosely, but mostly random ideas that they think are cool 15:21 <@luxidream> like in what world would this be useful 15:21 <@luxidream> https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/GnollHack/issues/737 15:22 what is MC here 15:23 magical cancellation? but that one goes from 0 to 3 15:23 <@luxidream> they made MC go from 1-20 15:23 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 15:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 15:23 I think it decreases monsters' MC 15:24 so you can make touch attacks more effectively 15:24 but it sounds like a monster spell 15:24 by the way it's worded 15:25 do gnollhack monster spells use material focuses? I honestly don't know 15:27 I’ve tried reading their wiki. It’s very difficult to navigate. 15:27 "new item: belt of back pain" what 15:27 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:27 To be fair, that item sounds hilarious. 15:28 it's almost like, if you isolate yourself from the nethack community, you would find that items with no upside whatsoever are unpopular 15:28 *would not fine 15:28 find 15:28 amnesia 15:28 FIQ: amnesia has upsides now 15:28 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 795 points, T:1689, cut down by a gnome 15:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29 but I was talking about *adding* items that are purely negative 15:29 <@luxidream> amnesia has been removed 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1357 15:30 aosdict: iron chain 15:31 again, that is not a proposed new addition to the game 15:31 hmmm 15:31 a lot of items in slex 15:32 but that's slex 15:32 yes it does it a lot 15:32 amulet of strangulation 15:34 even the gauntlets of missing information have a purpose in slex, I've used them with one of my chars lately :D 15:34 amulets of strangulation can be useful to not breath in toxic fumes from stinking clouds 15:34 talk about niche lol 15:34 at least it ought to work 15:34 maybe a missing case of TDTTOE 15:34 but their (gnollhack) stuff is really weird, "belt of back pain" or "foo of atlas strength" wtf? sounds like a D&D module 15:35 the wiki says it kills you if you're not headless or both breathless and mindless 15:35 hopefully they don't start pullng stuff from FATAL, or actually maybe they should, because then there'd REALLY be a shitstorm :P 15:35 aosdict: being strangled should confer all the benefits of being unbreathing 15:35 in addition to its current effects 15:35 YANI ^ then 15:35 protection for 5 turns from stinking cloud lmao 15:35 I swear if anyone mentions FATAL I am going to lose it 15:36 it has XRay vision under new intrinsics 15:36 but the game already has that 15:36 <@luxidream> oboy 15:36 <@luxidream> time to rabbit hole on what FATAL is 15:37 oh I see this 15:37 "Monsters can now have all the same intrinsics and extrinsics as the player" 15:37 but is it well implemented 15:37 @Luxidream Don’t. Trust me, it’s better not to know. Legitimately. 15:37 <@luxidream> It can't be that bad 15:37 It is. 15:37 haha, what is it 15:37 @luxidream you know slex? 15:37 FATAL is basically that for tabletop 15:37 LarienTelrunya: belt of back pain sounds like an early D&D item that's in there just to troll players who don't have access to the identify spell yet, and who are much more likely to use-test things than nethack players 15:38 FIQ: FATAL is worse, it has a hell of a lot of racism 15:38 ^ 15:38 you mean like SLEX has a ton of sexism? 15:38 and I'm talking about the original version, which I have a copy of the pdf on my hard drive 15:38 <@luxidream> does the dm's guide look like a fantasy grimoire with 2000 pages? 15:38 same thing, just different targets 15:38 heh, slex at least has equal opportunity sexism :P 15:39 FATAL also has sexism, but it's strictly "women is inferior" bullshit sexism 15:39 1st edition ad&d dm guide is 240 pages 15:39 that's pretty short actually 15:39 print is fairly small 15:39 i'm open on my desk right now 15:40 there's a lot here. between it and the players handbook and a monster manual, you were good to go 15:40 K2: glad to hear you're an open person, but why do you have to be on your desk to be open? 15:40 *it's 15:40 :P 15:40 jesus I'm reading a reddit thread describing playing it for the first time 15:40 <@luxidream> I meant for FATAL, since it's the slex equivalent for tabletop 15:40 -!- janne-hmp has joined #hardfought 15:41 amateurhour: is that amy's thread 15:41 they're describing some of the stuff to calculate for you character 15:41 haha wtf 15:41 aosdict: hell no I'm not playing that shit 15:41 LarienTelrunya: the one you made some time ago 15:41 even I, the girl that made slex, am disgusted by FATAL 15:41 oh you're all talking about FATAL 15:41 Look. Slex offends me. FATAL makes me feel genuinely nauseated, both as a role playing game player and a person. It’s fucking gross. 15:42 you can see how much influence 1st edition ad&d had on nethack , which isnt surprising, almost every dungeon crawl/fantasy game that came out for play on the computer used ad&d as a starting point 15:42 back in the 80's that is 15:42 surely this must be a joke 15:42 r-right? 15:42 what is FATAL? never heard of it 15:42 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 356 points, T:689, killed by a falling object 15:42 amateurhour: I have some really, really bad news. 15:43 <@luxidream> I am finding out what it is after I take this online quiz 15:43 there are people that play that non-ironically? tf 15:43 hmm 15:43 <@riker> k2: it's basically just a rape fantasy trpg 15:43 ugh 15:44 they actually do get some player intrinsics 15:44 but it's implemented as a seperate codepath instead of combining player/monster code 15:44 there's also a review of FATAL on big purple, and then the crazy people actually wrote a rebuttal 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 63 points, T:562, killed by reverting to unhealthy giant form 15:44 for example, they have a codepath for monster attributes (str, int, etc) entirely seperate from the player's 15:44 without youmonst checks or similar 15:45 hmm allthough they do have some common code 15:45 [hdf-us] [spl] hyperion67 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 856 points, T:1950, struck down by a large mimic 15:45 killed by reverting to unhealthy giant form? how do you get that death? 15:46 FIQ: this is what you get if you try to develop a nethack variant in isolation from the entire nethack community 15:46 yeah 15:46 Hi all, we are getting GnollHack to a more stable stage. We just published 4.0.22 and are now organizing a beta tournament starting tomorrow. Since it’s still beta, we are offering a prize pool of $200 for the trouble. 15:47 I was a bit curious to see if they reused my code 15:47 but apart from some code looking a bit similar (duh, they're trying to solve the same problem), it's an entirely original implementation 15:47 I'll probably give gnollhack a go tomorrow 15:47 whether it's better or worse kinda depends, I'd say my version is superior, but some of their stuff is probably a bit cleaner 15:48 as a result of needing less "if monster is you" checks all over the place 15:48